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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Real American on January 15, 2006, 06:02:39 PM
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I am referring to 7's post in the other thread mocking the US for its strong stance against Iran's nuclear ambitions. Now I know that he is a German and that he is brainwashed by their left wing media, but are the rest of you guys as ignorant as him?
Do you not see the problem with a country run by crazy religious extremists having weapons of mass destruction? Remember, their government has vowed to "wipe Israel off the map". They are also a state sponsor of such terror groups as Hazballah. And you see nothing wrong with them developing nuclear weapons? Not to mention the nuclear arms race that would result as all the Arab nations try to keep up with Iran and build their own nukes.
Is that really a good thing for the world? Seriously, something needs to stop them or the balance of power in the world will change and that is a very scary thing.
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I thought Iran was just doing nuclear research? There's nothing wrong with that. I think nuclear research is a good thing.
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Why didn't you just keep it in that topic? A new topic was hardly necesary.
BTW, no, I'm not worried about Iran actually nuking Israel, since that seems to be what you're implying. Third-world countries build nukes as bargaining chips, not for actual use - no country is that stupid. But if the U.S. wants to get Iran to back down, we need to honor our agreements this time and not do what we did with North Korea.
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We are too busy worrying about the latest on Brangelina vs. Vaughniston
That's why we don't care about Iran and its "weapons of mass destruction" (http://portland.indymedia.org/icon/2004/11/303937.jpg)
i'd rather Talk about
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i really don't care if iran gets nukes. iran should get nukes. look what happened to iraq. if iran wishes to nuke israel after they get their nukes, so be it. it seems unlikely that they would do so.
iran is going to stage an investigation into the holocaust, we'll see what that uncovers.
why is it that the only nation that actually nuked another nation gets pissy when other nations seek out nukes?
i hope iran remains steadfast in their course and develops nukes.
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Do you not see the problem with a country run by crazy religious extremists having weapons of mass destruction?
that could apply to the usa too, and i'm more affraid of what they can do than the arabs
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i really don't care if iran gets nukes. iran should get nukes. look what happened to iraq. if iran wishes to nuke israel after they get their nukes, so be it. it seems unlikely that they would do so.
iran is going to stage an investigation into the holocaust, we'll see what that uncovers.
why is it that the only nation that actually nuked another nation gets pissy when other nations seek out nukes?
i hope iran remains steadfast in their course and develops nukes.
Hiroshima & Nagasaki were atomic not nuclear.
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look, if Iran starts developing nuclear weapons, America and/or the UN will intervene and shut them down. Why? Because people in the middle east don't need WMD's period. They've proven themselves throughout the history of civilization to be violent fundamentalists to the point that it handicaps their own development. Look at where they live! They live in squalor, and it doesn't help that two of the worlds oldest religions that have beef wth eachother are located in that area, so NO, no Iran does not need nuclear weapons are you all fucking crazy?!?!? stop trying to be michael moore and equate USA with Iran, you are wrong, and as you will see, history will play out and if those crazy fucks try to develop a nuke, they will catch a shitstorm from the civilized world.
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look, if Iran starts developing nuclear weapons, America and/or the UN will intervene and shut them down. Why? Because people in the middle east don't need WMD's period. They've proven themselves throughout the history of civilization to be violent fundamentalists to the point that it handicaps their own development. Look at where they live! They live in squalor, and it doesn't help that two of the worlds oldest religions that have beef wth eachother are located in that area, so NO, no Iran does not need nuclear weapons are you all fucking crazy?!?!? stop trying to be michael moore and equate USA with Iran, you are wrong, and as you will see, history will play out and if those crazy fucks try to develop a nuke, they will catch a shitstorm from the civilized world.
-George Bernard Shaw writes that America is the only country to go from barbarism to decadence without going through civilization first.
-And it's funny you talk about the Middle East being full of "violent fundamentalists" when America is the most violent nation on Earth. No doubt about it. This talk of WMD's? America is the country that dropped atomic bombs on Japan, and is currently using chemical weapons in Fallujah. America commited genocide against the Native American Indians. America had one of the bloodiest civil wars a little over a century ago, America has been the scene of major rioting in the 90's. Just in the last 50 years, America has launched major wars, against Vietnam (a country which never attacked us), Korea (a country which never attacked us), Iraq war 1 (country which never attacked us), Iraq War 2 (country which never attacked us) OUR DEATH TOLL IS HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY!
J Bananas, do you even think about what your saying before you post? How can you respond to this?
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Look, the US has preserved one of the highest qualties of life for it's residents and has become an internation hub for business, recreation, etc...basically everyone wants to live here. No one wants to go the middle east and you know why. Sure, we have a staggering crime rate, but crime here is a gang shooting or a dispute outside a club, not a bus bomber blowing up tons of inncent families! Middle easterners have shown thats the way they play, and I wont support them getting nukes cuz next thing you know some raghead will run up in a new bulding and kill several innocent "infidels". You know this, everyone here knows this, stop trying to argue semantics and minute points to try and avoid the fact that Iranians do not have the self control or respect for life to be trusted with nukes. You yourself are a shining example of islamic fundamentalist behavior. You put no responsibility or faith in the common man you are basically an instrument for allah. when you dont have to hold responsibility for yourself, you are able to do whatever you want, like kill innocent people, which they will do if given the opportunity. The only reason you are defending them is because you are a self hating whiteboy turned muslim who wants to be down badly so youabandon all common sense learned from living in north America and completely adhere to the islamic agenda. you do not think before you post, you ask yourself what high ranking muslims would say, and that is not healthy, for you will be manipulated into harming others one day at the hands of a higher up who can control you. stop being a little muslim sheep and open your eyes.
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yeah, and if u think u have any idea what you're talking about, i got one word for you, maktub. Maktub nigga
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Is that really a good thing for the world? Seriously, something needs to stop them or the balance of power in the world will change and that is a very scary thing.
^^^This explains CWalker's belief system and the belief system of many like him in this country. You see, it's not about right or wrong, it's about "balance of power", he is only concerned that America remains powerful economically and militarily, no matter how many lives they destroy in the process.
CWalker, when you awaken and realize that this world is bigger than you and fullfilling your own selfish desires, then you realize that a man's life in Africa or Asia is equal to a man's life in America.
Don't tell me that your a follower of Christ. Your only a follower of your own selfish desires.
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Hiroshima & Nagasaki were atomic not nuclear.
atomic and nuclear are the same thing, both generally refer to nuclear processes that release energy, either through fission, fusion, or some combination.
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look, if Iran starts developing nuclear weapons, America and/or the UN will intervene and shut them down. Why? Because people in the middle east don't need WMD's period.
the trick is to develop the weapons in secret, and not let the world know how far along the program is. all the u.n. is talking about is sanctions. all iran needs is to be able to enrich uranium or plutonium to the point where it can be used as a fuel for a weapon. the weapons themselves can be developed anywhere. all iran needs to do is convince the world it should be able to develop it's own fuel for nuclear power.
the u.s. ultimately will have to act unilaterally and bomb iran. the u.n. isn't going to sanction military action.
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Hiroshima & Nagasaki were atomic not nuclear.
atomic and nuclear are the same thing, both generally refer to nuclear processes that release energy, either through fission, fusion, or some combination.
I wasn't a physics major, but i've understood that splitting atoms and splitting nucleii yield drastically different results, with the nucleus being much more volitile.
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I wasn't a physics major, but i've understood that splitting atoms and splitting nucleii yield drastically different results, with the nucleus being much more volitile.
an atom is a nucleus surrounded by electrons. to split an atom is to split the nucleus.
now, there's fission and fusion. fission is splitting a nucleus, fusion is combining nuclei. maybe you are confusing those. the early atomic bombs were pure fission, hydrogen bombs which are stronger used the energy from fission to produce fusion releasing even more energy.
either way it's all nuclear.
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I wasn't a physics major, but i've understood that splitting atoms and splitting nucleii yield drastically different results, with the nucleus being much more volitile.
an atom is a nucleus surrounded by electrons. to split an atom is to split the nucleus.
good point.
now, there's fission and fusion. fission is splitting a nucleus, fusion is combining nuclei. maybe you are confusing those. the early atomic bombs were pure fission, hydrogen bombs which are stronger used the energy from fission to produce fusion releasing even more energy.
either way it's all nuclear.
thanks for the knowledge.
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Let Iran use nuke...It should be fun. 8) Why not? i don't care who starts it..as long as it happens. I wanna see everyone's reaction.
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Let Iran use nuke...It should be fun. 8) Why not? i don't care who starts it..as long as it happens. I wanna see everyone's reaction.
youre a sick fuck
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I am referring to 7's post in the other thread mocking the US for its strong stance against Iran's nuclear ambitions. Now I know that he is a German and that he is brainwashed by their left wing media, but are the rest of you guys as ignorant as him?
Do you not see the problem with a country run by crazy religious extremists having weapons of mass destruction? Remember, their government has vowed to "wipe Israel off the map". They are also a state sponsor of such terror groups as Hazballah. And you see nothing wrong with them developing nuclear weapons? Not to mention the nuclear arms race that would result as all the Arab nations try to keep up with Iran and build their own nukes.
Is that really a good thing for the world? Seriously, something needs to stop them or the balance of power in the world will change and that is a very scary thing.
iran never vowed to wipe israel off the map, the president even said they were not threatening israel they just said it should be wiped off the map which is entirely different because its just an opinion not at statement of the action they are going to undertake...
and it wouldn't start a nuclear arms race pakistan already has nukes, and the rest of the middle east is either protected by america or russia the biggest nuclear powers in the world....the only country which need worry about the nukes is israel, who already have enough nukes to wipe out the entire middle east!
but i do agree iran should not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons, but its an opinion i have against all countries developing nukes! it will be interesting to see how this one pans out, i'd like to see it resolved peacefully, but at the moment it seems like a clash of civilisations with both sides daring each other to goto war
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I dont get how high budget movies, fast food chains and obese people relate to the priviledge to have nukes
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I am referring to 7's post in the other thread mocking the US for its strong stance against Iran's nuclear ambitions. Now I know that he is a German and that he is brainwashed by their left wing media, but are the rest of you guys as ignorant as him?
Do you not see the problem with a country run by crazy religious extremists having weapons of mass destruction? Remember, their government has vowed to "wipe Israel off the map". They are also a state sponsor of such terror groups as Hazballah. And you see nothing wrong with them developing nuclear weapons? Not to mention the nuclear arms race that would result as all the Arab nations try to keep up with Iran and build their own nukes.
Is that really a good thing for the world? Seriously, something needs to stop them or the balance of power in the world will change and that is a very scary thing.
Well Your worst nightmare has already come to life. There is already a country with crazy extremists with weapons of mass destruction.You know what country?
The United States Of America.
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Let Iran use nuke...It should be fun. 8) Why not? i don't care who starts it..as long as it happens. I wanna see everyone's reaction.
iran isn't going to use nukes. iran needs nukes to ensure that neither israel or the u.s. ever take military action against them. iran needs nukes for protection. the iranian govt needs nukes for self preservation.
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Let Iran use nuke...It should be fun. 8) Why not? i don't care who starts it..as long as it happens. I wanna see everyone's reaction.
iran isn't going to use nukes. iran needs nukes to ensure that neither israel or the u.s. ever take military action against them. iran needs nukes for protection. the iranian govt needs nukes for self preservation.
yea since pakistan said they got them america is now saying 'i'll be your best friend' etc. or maybe they were just involved in the coup which braught their president to power cos hes seems to be at odds with the rest of the population on a number of things
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Its always important to note with these misguided idiots that during Israels preemptive battle with Egypt. The U.S put a reconaissance ship into the oceans called the U.S LIberty. Out of nowhere it was suddenly attacked attacked and bombed by aircraft killing many americans. America immediately ordered an attack on Cairo, planes were armed with nukes and they were basically going to swoop over Cairo and obliterate it killing everyone in the process. At the last moment the planes are suddenly ordered back an investigation is launched and it suddenly becomes apparent that Israeli jets had attacked the ship, with complicit cooperation from many in the U.S government. The aim was to provoke the U.S into believing the Egyptians had viciously murdered american military for absolutely no reason.
So C Walker and other morons if you want to talk about sick fucks, well there is just an example of the sick fucks that control america and israel.
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I reiterate another example, the U.N imposed an oil for food program against Iraq, one of those friendly programs which has killed over ONE MILLION IRAQIS. Madelaine Albright appeared on 60 minutes and wahen questioned about this it was put to her that 500,000 iraqi children have died because of these sanctions and when asked if she thought it worth it, she replied yes I think so.
She said it was worth the deaths of half a million children, and this is the same pure evil that is now masquerading yet again as the heroes of this world, its absolutely sick. >:(
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^^^ wow...you are a complete moron.
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Lol congrats you have just proven yourself an idiot, you can't deny what I said so instead you can only call me a name.
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Lol congrats you have just proven yourself an idiot, you can't deny what I said so instead you can only call me a name.
once you start criticizing madeleine albright, you are basically criticizing bill clinton. this causes even the people that passionately believe that bush is an evil man and that bill clinton was leagues better (and hillary will save the world) to become flustered as they realize you are lumping their guy and his team in the same group as the bushes and reagans. clinton is basically bush-lite.
i don't know if the americans were actually going to nuke egypt. can you post any links or references to that?
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"The White House knew within minutes of the USS Liberty attack, that the perpetrator was really Israel. On two separate occasions, the White House recalled aircraft rescue missions for the Liberty. On the last attempt, LBJ told Rear-Admiral Lawrence Geis of the Sixth Fleet, “I WILL NOT EMBARRASS OUR ALLY.” The Liberty was then left “dead in the water,” without any assistance for over 16 hours."
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On June 8, 1967, the Israelis attacked the USS Liberty, in international waters, 13 miles off the coast of the Sinai Peninsula, and tried to sink it, and kill all 294 American on board the spy ship (“Assault on the Liberty,” James M. Ennes, Jr. and James Bamford’s “Body of Secrets.”) The Israelis then falsely claimed it was just a case of “mistaken identity.”
However, according to Peter Hounam, the author of the expose’, “Operation Cyanide,” the murderous Israeli attack was a set up to blame the Egyptians and bring the U.S. into the 1967 war on their side. The Liberty was a “sitting duck” for the Israeli jet planes’ missiles and rockets and their torpedo boats. The attack lasted at least 75 minutes, killing 34 brave Americans and wounding 172 others. Liberty survivor, Petty Officer Ernie Gallo, said, “I mean for a group of people, who are suppose to be the children of God, (the Israelis), they didn’t show any mercy for us.”
Both Captain Ward Boston, an ex-Navy attorney, who participated in a Court of Inquiry, with respect to the Liberty, and Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Chairman of the U.S. Joint Chief of Staff, (who recently died), believe that President Lyndon Baynes Johnson ordered a massive “cover-up” after the attack by the Israelis (10/23/03, CBSNews.com.)
On first hearing of the Liberty attack by allegedly “unidentified aircraft,” the U.S. launched planes from the Sixth Fleet carriers, then located in the Mediterranean, off Crete, armed with nuclear weapons. They were headed for Cairo to retaliate. Only minutes before reaching their target, they were recalled. Why? The Israelis had failed to sink the Liberty! The Zionist predators had mistakenly believed U.S. planes were also on their way to rescue the Liberty, so they were forced to stop their assault. Only then, did they admit to the U.S., that they were the culprits.
According to Hounam’s research, the White House knew within minutes of the Liberty attack, that the perpetrator was really Israel (p. 94). On two separate occasions, the White House recalled aircraft rescue missions for the Liberty. On the last attempt, LBJ told Rear-Admiral Lawrence Geis of the Sixth Fleet, “I WILL NOT EMBARRASS OUR ALLY.” The Liberty was then left “dead in the water,” without any assistance for over 16 hours. (See also, an excellent documentary of the same title by the BBC and affidavits and statements found at USSLiberty.org.)
At pp. 267-268, Hounam said, “Sinking the Liberty and blaming Egypt and the Soviets would have freed Johnson’s hand to do almost anything - even to drop an atomic bomb on Cairo. Trouble only arose when the Israel operation failed - and the damned ship stayed afloat.”
Hounam revealed that within LBJ’s hawkish administration, there was shadowy clique that met under the rubric of the “303 Committee.” Richard Helms, the late CIA Director, said that entity was, “A device for examining covert operations of any kind and making a judgment on behalf of the President, so he wouldn’t be nailed with the thing, if it failed.”
Out of the “303 Committee,” came a project labeled, “Frontlet 615,” which was furthered defined as, “A secret political agreement in 1966 by which Israel and the U.S. had vowed to destroy (Egypt’s Gamal Abdel) Nasser.” The military name for the operation was, “Operation Cyanide.” The U.S. also had a draconian plan, entitled, “Condition November,” a strategy for a pre-emptive nuclear strike against the Soviet Union. All of the above ended up being interwoven into the tragic saga of the Liberty.
LBJ was an extremely ambitious man, who was, in 1967, seeking reelection. The Vietnam War was going badly for him and his popularity was plummeting. He had surrounded himself with Zionist zealots, like the late Walter Rostow, his Special Assistant for National Security Affairs.
Here is how Hounam described Rostow, “A sinister, Svengali-like figure, or simply the biggest and best fixer? Of all the people in Johnson’s entourage, he was crucial in determining which way the U.S. might respond to the threatened hostilities in the Middle East... Rostow was a hawk who believed in the justness of the Vietnam War and, as a Jew, his Zionism was strongly felt and expressed...(He) had daily contact with the President. This gave him especially close access.” He had acquired enormous influence running the committee (303 Committee) that sanctioned covert operations by the CIA. He also knew in taking Israel’s side on most issues he was playing to the President’s tune. He described Johnson as the ‘most pro-Semitic man’ he had ever met.” Rostow was also an “advisor” to LBJ when he used the phony “Gulf of Tonkin Resolution,” in 1964, to launch the U.S. into the disastrous Vietnam War.
Just imagine for one moment, if an individual dedicated to putting America’s interests first - before the interests of the Zionists - had been the U.S. President on June 8, 1967. Instead of recalling our aircrafts that were on their way to rescue the Liberty, he (or she) would have ordered them to continue on their mission, not only to defend the Liberty and to stop the massacre, but to retaliated against the Zionist aggressors by bombing their naval base at the port of Ashdod, their military headquarters at Tel Aviv and Haifa, and for good measure, dropping a few MX missiles on Dimona, their secret nuke-making plant, located in the Negev desert. If, only?
What kind of man was LBJ? Well, here is what the distinguished British statesman, Denis Healey, one of his contemporaries, had to say about him: “LYNDON JOHNSON WAS A MONSTER. He was one of the few politicians with whom I found it uncomfortable to be in the same room. He exuded a brutal lust for power which I found most disagreeable...” (p. 131).
As a result of the Six-Day War, the Israelis illegally seized vast areas of land belonging to Syria, Jordan, Egypt and the Palestinian people. It also began being armed by the U.S. and treated as a strategic ally. Since 1967, Donald Neff pointed out (WRMEA, 08/02), Israel has also received enormous amounts of U.S. aid. Incredibly, it is “many times over the cost of the Marshall Plan to regenerate Western Europe after WWII.”
Query: Why are we giving billions of dollars of foreign aid to a country, Israel, that deliberately attacked and tried to sink our vessel, the Liberty, and that continues to make us more enemies in the Islamic World?
Finally, the last word on the horrors of the Israeli attack on the Liberty, and the cruel indifference of LBJ to its fate, has to be left to one of the injured survivors of that terror-filled day, Lt. George Golden, the Liberty’s chief engineer. He told author Hounam, (at p. 240-41), in a recent interview, “We were the guinea pigs to get shot up, to make it look like the Egypt was doing this so the U.S. could step in...to give our country an excuse to get in there to help Israel...” When asked how he felt when he was told all of this about being damned guinea pigs, Golden responded, “I thought I was going to cry because I couldn’t believe something like that would happen. I didn’t think our government was that way...”
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William Hughes is the author of “Saying ‘No’ to the War Party” (Iuniverse, Inc.), which is avaiable at Amazon.com.
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/4731/
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It was also on a BBC Documentary Called Dead In The Water, was an expose of how this act of war has been covered up for so long, unfortunately I can't find the transcripts for that one. Will keep looking though.
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clinton is basically bush-lite.
LOL at "Bush-lite", that's a creative way of putting it, I might use that in one of my rhymes when I'm freestylin.
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It was also on a BBC Documentary Called Dead In The Water, was an expose of how this act of war has been covered up for so long, unfortunately I can't find the transcripts for that one. Will keep looking though.
very interesting information. i accept it as the truth. it reminds me of the theory that the british arranged for the sinking of thet lusitania in order to draw the u.s. population behind joining that war.
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Let Iran use nuke...It should be fun. 8) Why not? i don't care who starts it..as long as it happens. I wanna see everyone's reaction.
youre a sick fuck
I was kidding man. Still I would dare iran to do it...so we can retaliate back.
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Here's the quesiton...if they say they gonna use the nuke...what's with all the talk then? If iran does..i wonder what bush would do.
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I was kidding man. Still I would dare iran to do it...so we can retaliate back.
why do you hate the persians? why don't you go around daring the french or the russians to nuke someone? why the hostility towards the persians? seriously, the people in the middle east, all those arab states, persia, they want nothing more than for the u.s. to leave them the fuck alone. at best treat them with respect like western europe.
getting nukes is like being able to sit with the adults and graduate from the kiddie table at thanksgiving. that's all iran wants.
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I was kidding man. Still I would dare iran to do it...so we can retaliate back.
why do you hate the persians? why don't you go around daring the french or the russians to nuke someone? why the hostility towards the persians? seriously, the people in the middle east, all those arab states, persia, they want nothing more than for the u.s. to leave them the fuck alone. at best treat them with respect like western europe.
getting nukes is like being able to sit with the adults and graduate from the kiddie table at thanksgiving. that's all iran wants.
WEll..the point that i'm making on that statement was that...all politicians are just nothing but gimmick waiting out for some demands; yeah the demands that nobody is willing to give. I don't hate anybody. None of them... ya right..we should treat them with respect. But that iran president got no respect for Iresilite (sorry, didn't spell right). That president of iran ain't making no sense at all. This nuke thing is not about demanding anything like n. korea or anything. THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand. That's it...they ain't got nothing lose but to spread idealogy of wiping them off the map. Now, what kinda bullshit is that?
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THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand.
he wasn't saying that all israeli's should be killed, he was saying that israel as a state shouldn't exist. mad that the land was stolen. he later clarified his statements, saying that european jews should have been given land in europe and not in the middle east. he certainly never threatened to nuke israel. he might be thinking it, but he hasn't made that threat.
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THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand.
he wasn't saying that all israeli's should be killed, he was saying that israel as a state shouldn't exist. mad that the land was stolen. he later clarified his statements, saying that european jews should have been given land in europe and not in the middle east. he certainly never threatened to nuke israel. he might be thinking it, but he hasn't made that threat.
welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
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THey want to spread the world saying that isrelite (again spelled wrong) should be wipe out, it's their stupid idealogy that they demand.
he wasn't saying that all israeli's should be killed, he was saying that israel as a state shouldn't exist. mad that the land was stolen. he later clarified his statements, saying that european jews should have been given land in europe and not in the middle east. he certainly never threatened to nuke israel. he might be thinking it, but he hasn't made that threat.
I don't wanna asumme here..but it's more likely that he wants to.
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I don't wanna asumme here..but it's more likely that he wants to.
ofcourse he wants to...that doesn't mean he will. that would be suicide. do you think he doesn't know that that is suicide?
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
lol! why should the palestinians share the land? it was their land. they were sharing it with jews in the area. then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe. it's really absurd how that worked out.
that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit. why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?
the real issue is what is iran's angle here? they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...
why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
lol! why should the palestinians share the land? it was their land. they were sharing it with jews in the area. then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe. it's really absurd how that worked out.
that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit. why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?
Zionism = Bullshit
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
lol! why should the palestinians share the land? it was their land. they were sharing it with jews in the area. then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe. it's really absurd how that worked out.
that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit. why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?
the real issue is what is iran's angle here? they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...
why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
man...the situation is like this...iran has a roommate with isreal...iran is pointing a gun at that guy and says, "get the fuck out of my room."
and this isreal guy be like, "but this is my room...i paid for this room." Iran guy says," i know...that's why you gotta get the fuck out of here and don't forget to pay the monthly as well."
If they share...it would be like somewhat..."Even." If they get crowed....put them elsewhere..like america...but the point is ...you can't just tell them to "get the fuck out of my room" they somewhat own that part of that land.
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
lol! why should the palestinians share the land? it was their land. they were sharing it with jews in the area. then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe. it's really absurd how that worked out.
that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit. why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?
the real issue is what is iran's angle here? they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...
why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
well it wasn't europe who gave them, the land us brits were turning jews away whilst we had it under mandate, american pressure lead us to just up and leave putting it in the hands of the american controlled UN
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
lol! why should the palestinians share the land? it was their land. they were sharing it with jews in the area. then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe. it's really absurd how that worked out.
that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit. why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?
the real issue is what is iran's angle here? they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...
why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
man...the situation is like this...iran has a roommate with isreal...iran is pointing a gun at that guy and says, "get the fuck out of my room."
and this isreal guy be like, "but this is my room...i paid for this room." Iran guy says," i know...that's why you gotta get the fuck out of here and don't forget to pay the monthly as well."
If they share...it would be like somewhat..."Even." If they get crowed....put them elsewhere..like america...but the point is ...you can't just tell them to "get the fuck out of my room" they somewhat own that part of that land.
^ man shut up, this is one of the worst analogies ive ever read in my life
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welll..okay..that's true...but still...the idelogy still spreading...maybe they should share lands , huh? haha
lol! why should the palestinians share the land? it was their land. they were sharing it with jews in the area. then, jews from europe with no claim to the land were given it by europe. it's really absurd how that worked out.
that's like if you have a roommate; and then i bring some more people to your crib who are also going to live there and run shit. why don't you make this easy and share your apartment?
the real issue is what is iran's angle here? they must be scared that the u.s. is plotting action and israel as well, and thus they are trying to bolster support for them...
why else bring this issue to the forefront now, as they've done?
man...the situation is like this...iran has a roommate with isreal...iran is pointing a gun at that guy and says, "get the fuck out of my room."
and this isreal guy be like, "but this is my room...i paid for this room." Iran guy says," i know...that's why you gotta get the fuck out of here and don't forget to pay the monthly as well."
If they share...it would be like somewhat..."Even." If they get crowed....put them elsewhere..like america...but the point is ...you can't just tell them to "get the fuck out of my room" they somewhat own that part of that land.
^ man shut up, this is one of the worst analogies ive ever read in my life
u shut up, i was tryna make a point. Because ya don't even have a brain to understand i'm tryna say..you shut up or get shut down.
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Lol you are such a fool Israel didnt pay for shit, it stole the land from the palestinians (the occupied territories) has made over 2 million palestinian refugees, and refuses to allow them the basic human right to return their land. Furthermore Israel is banrolled by USA and has enough nukes to single handedly destroy all of the middle east and then some. Your analogies are not only simple they are also completely false.
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Lol you are such a fool Israel didnt pay for shit, it stole the land from the palestinians (the occupied territories) has made over 2 million palestinian refugees, and refuses to allow them the basic human right to return their land. Furthermore Israel is banrolled by USA and has enough nukes to single handedly destroy all of the middle east and then some. Your analogies are not only simple they are also completely false.
money thing wasn't what I was talking about.
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america dont care who is doing what nuclear research, as long as they are not muslims....
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america dont care who is doing what nuclear research, as long as they are not muslims....
pakistan has nukes and wasn't threatened while they were developing them, like iran is being threatened now
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Let's be honest, if an Aran nation had nukes they wouldn't wait one second to annihilate Israel. I don't think there is anyone here who would deny that.
The Israelis, on the other hand, have nukes but would never consider using them on an Arab country unless attacked. They want peace.
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Let's be honest, if an Aran nation had nukes they wouldn't wait one second to annihilate Israel. I don't think there is anyone here who would deny that.
iran is not an arab nation. they are persians. the eight years war with iraq was seen as arabs vs persians. are you saying that arabs or persians are somehow inherently evil? what are you saying.
everyone knows that if iran nuked israel:
a) israel would have time to respond and tehran and any other large cities in iran would be nuked. and probably damascus too for good measure. those syrians deserve it!
b) the u.s. would finish the job and annihilate iran.
only a madman would nuke israel. it doesn't make sense to nuke israel. why do you think the president of iran is insane?
The Israelis, on the other hand, have nukes but would never consider using them on an Arab country unless attacked. They want peace.
ofcourse they want peace. they have already stolen the land from the palestinians and are ahead in the game. why wouldn't they want to call a truce if they are ahead?
either way this is no threat to the u.s. i am in the u.s.
convince me why i should care about the security of the state of israel?
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Let's be honest, if an Aran nation had nukes they wouldn't wait one second to annihilate Israel. I don't think there is anyone here who would deny that.
iran is not an arab nation. they are persians. the eight years war with iraq was seen as arabs vs persians. are you saying that arabs or persians are somehow inherently evil? what are you saying.
everyone knows that if iran nuked israel:
a) israel would have time to respond and tehran and any other large cities in iran would be nuked. and probably damascus too for good measure. those syrians deserve it!
b) the u.s. would finish the job and annihilate iran.
only a madman would nuke israel. it doesn't make sense to nuke israel. why do you think the president of iran is insane?
The Israelis, on the other hand, have nukes but would never consider using them on an Arab country unless attacked. They want peace.
ofcourse they want peace. they have already stolen the land from the palestinians and are ahead in the game. why wouldn't they want to call a truce if they are ahead?
either way this is no threat to the u.s. i am in the u.s.
convince me why i should care about the security of the state of israel?
Well, it all comes down to either you do it or drop it. America don't need these emergency crisis meeting on the news.
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The Israelis, on the other hand, have nukes but would never consider using them on an Arab country unless attacked. They want peace.
ofcourse they want peace. they have already stolen the land from the palestinians and are ahead in the game. why wouldn't they want to call a truce if they are ahead?
LOL.
Zionism : Peace
Black : White
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Let's be honest, if an Aran nation had nukes they wouldn't wait one second to annihilate Israel. I don't think there is anyone here who would deny that.
Oh, you bet I can. If you seriously believe that, the real idiot in here is you. That is simply not the way international relations work - even offensive neo-realists (the Bush administration's world view more-or-less falls under this definition) wouldn't honestly believe that. Third-world nations use nuclear weapons as bargaining chips, nothing more. Perhaps it's legitimate to say that they want to be taken seriously in their demands and thus have to come across as being dangerous, but the law of secondary-strike capabilities means that no actual USE of their weapons (if and when they actually build working examples, which they haven't yet) is ever going to happen.
And as Nibs pointed out, Iran is not an "Aran" (I know you meant to say "Arab") nation.
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fuck israel. I cant stand those mothafucking jews. WE should kill them all.
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I never said Iran was an Arab country.
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I never said Iran was an Arab country.
surely you understand the confusion, when you began talking about arabs in a thread you started about iran.
i did some research, iran is only 51% persian, 25% azeri (which possibly derived from the medes, persians and turks) and also some other groups as well; only 3% arab. in contrast iraq is ~80% arab, ~20% kurd. ~5% assyrian.
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I never said Iran was an Arab country.
Indeed, you said it was an "Aran nation". I'm inclined to believe you simply made a typo because 'b' and 'n' are next to each other on the keyboard.