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Title: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on February 20, 2006, 11:53:02 PM
Check this out.. it went down like this...

My wife and I were at the bookstore Barnes and Noble.  We were sitting down reading some books, when my wife got up to go look for another book.  On her way back to where we were sitting, a man, in the aisle next to me, stopped her, and from my chair I could hear their conversation...

First he asked my wife some basic questions, like was she a Muslim, what mosque does she attend, so on and so forth.  Then he asked her what the difference was between Islam and Christianity.  And she said something about in Islam we only have messengers, but we they are not partners of God.  He took issue with this, and he went to go get a Qu'ran because he thought the Qu'ran said Muhammad was a vessel of God or something like that.

So then my wife comes and sits back down next to me.  The guy comes back, and when he comes around the corner and see's me there sitting next to my wife, he is suprised, and dissapointed.

He continues to look through the Qu'ran but can't find what he was looking for because it didn't exist.

I invite him kindly to have a seat and talk to us, but he refuses to sit down.  So I get up out of my chair and try to sit at a chair closer to him so we can communicate.  He then sits next to my wife in the chair that I was sitting in.

We discuss back and forth in relation about Satan, and I show him a few verses in the Qu'ran regarding Satan.  He starts to warm up to me, but then it's like he remembered "Ohh I'm supposed to hate these people."  So then he changes the subject and talks about women being oppressed, but my wife handled that question.

He says something about all religion being based on faith.  I responded him that my religion is based upon worshipping the Creator of the Universe, and that it is a matter of knowledge and conviction.  Anyway, he got really mad at this point and started yelling out loud, "Jesus is God", "Jesus is God".

Anyway, apparantly this whole time these little girls and their mother were sitting on the other side of the room, eyesdropping.  Next thing I know a cop comes around the corner with his hand on a gun.  When he see's us, he let's go of the gun, and his tension is immediately alleviated.  He then addresses me saying, "Ohhh, hey sorry, I got a call that a guy fitting your description (thobe, black jacket, and kufi) was drunk and harrasing other customers."  I was just suprised so I asked him if he was kidding, and he felt embarrased and he walked away shortly thereafter.

Anyway, I tried to finish my conversation with this Christian guy.  He told me that he also believed that God was one, and I told him then why do you have the trinity (dividing God into three).  He also told me that Jesus was God, and I told him that God doesn't have to go to the bathroom, I told him that got is the Creator and he doesn't exist inside his creation.  He got angry again at this point, so I decided to get up and buy him a drink (a lemonade) to calm him down.  He refused my drink and said he wouldn't except my pity (whatever that means).

He then said that he could tell I was a good person, and that he thought I was a person of God.  But then, like before, he remembered in his head 'ohh yeah, I'm supposed to hate these people.'

So next he questions me, saying things like, "Do you love your religion so much you would kill someone.  Is it true that your God tells you to kill people?"  I explained that in the Qu'ran Allah teaches self-defense, and that Allah gives us the permission to fight against oppression.  Check this out... just shortly after questioning me upon violence, he then gets so angry, he says, "You better be careful, because you are sitting in between America and Russia and we are 2 billion and you are 1 billion and we have the power to destroy all of you, you better watch out, we are going to nuclear bomb the crap out of all of you!!"

-I told him he had it all wrong, and I told him calm down, and asked him again to come sit next to me.  The store was closing, my wife was getting irratated so she got up to leave, this man went walking off yelling something about Jesus, Jesus, Jesus... my wife and I walked out and saw a couple of police cars right outside.  We went to are car and went home.  In the car, my wife and I thought we suspected the woman with her kids for calling the cops on us, because the media has trained them to be suspicious and paranoid of Muslims.  We also thought that the cop made up the part about me being drunk, just to justify his religious profiling.     

 
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: coola on February 21, 2006, 03:12:33 AM
^ thats pretty fucked you got snitched on for nothin...

but i dont understand why you would have sat next to him when he declined your invitation ?
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: 7even on February 21, 2006, 05:20:25 AM
You got the best of both worlds.. muslims accept you and christians don't arrest you.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 21, 2006, 06:54:15 AM
if this story is true, and not exaggerated at all, u can tell the guy u were talkin to was a little mentaliy unstable lol.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on February 21, 2006, 12:13:15 PM
if this story is true, and not exaggerated at all, u can tell the guy u were talkin to was a little mentaliy unstable lol.

Probably.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: white Boy on February 21, 2006, 12:37:45 PM
barnes and noble is dope. nice story, and im sorry that you encountered like that, im sure theres a peaceful nice christian out there, who got encountered and offended by some radical muslim.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Real American on February 21, 2006, 02:59:24 PM
barnes and noble is dope. nice story, and im sorry that you encountered like that, im sure theres a peaceful nice christian out there, who got encountered and offended by some radical muslim.

Yah, the Christian usually ends up getting beheaded. Infinite should consider himself lucky.....
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: J @ M @ L on February 21, 2006, 05:11:30 PM
barnes and noble is dope. nice story, and im sorry that you encountered like that, im sure theres a peaceful nice christian out there, who got encountered and offended by some radical muslim.

Yah, the Christian usually ends up getting beheaded. Infinite should consider himself lucky.....

Compare the number of Christians beheaded to the number of Muslims bombed on in Iraq.

I don't understand how people can have this assumption that an American life is more valuable than an Iraqi one... if an Iraqi beheads an American, it's cruel, savage, etc... but if an American kills an entire Iraqi family, it's "collateral damage/understandable casualty of war"
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Maniac Marxxx on February 21, 2006, 05:34:37 PM
barnes and noble is dope. nice story, and im sorry that you encountered like that, im sure theres a peaceful nice christian out there, who got encountered and offended by some radical muslim.

Yah, the Christian usually ends up getting beheaded. Infinite should consider himself lucky.....

Compare the number of Christians beheaded to the number of Muslims bombed on in Iraq.


No 1s life is more important than another even if its christian or muslim. People believe in diffrent things and i respect anyone with religion even if i dont believe in the same religion as them. Not all christians are like that and its a shame u had 2 encounter something like that.

I don't understand how people can have this assumption that an American life is more valuable than an Iraqi one... if an Iraqi beheads an American, it's cruel, savage, etc... but if an American kills an entire Iraqi family, it's "collateral damage/understandable casualty of war"

Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Knuckles on February 21, 2006, 05:45:26 PM
Compare the number of Christians beheaded to the number of Muslims bombed on in Iraq.

I don't understand how people can have this assumption that an American life is more valuable than an Iraqi one... if an Iraqi beheads an American, it's cruel, savage, etc... but if an American kills an entire Iraqi family, it's "collateral damage/understandable casualty of war"

The difference is pretty clear.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: J @ M @ L on February 21, 2006, 06:24:52 PM
Compare the number of Christians beheaded to the number of Muslims bombed on in Iraq.

I don't understand how people can have this assumption that an American life is more valuable than an Iraqi one... if an Iraqi beheads an American, it's cruel, savage, etc... but if an American kills an entire Iraqi family, it's "collateral damage/understandable casualty of war"

The difference is pretty clear.

You're right... the fact that innocent people die doesn't matter... what matters is the manner in which they're killed.

Western government sponsored bombs = CIVILIZED
Beheading = SAVAGE
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Don Jacob on February 21, 2006, 06:44:55 PM
i got 20 dollars that the dude infinite encountered was one of those whtie people, i don't know what the "global" words for it is, but around here, we call them peckerwoods....they're not really rednecks but they have that kinda retarded mentality
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Don Jacob on February 21, 2006, 06:47:04 PM
i got 20 dollars that the dude infinite encountered was one of those whtie people, i don't know what the "global" words for it is, but around here, we call them peckerwoods....they're not really rednecks but they have that kinda retarded mentality


don't worry man, i've encountered dudes like that before, according to one dude i'm going to hell because i'm sacreligious for having religious tattoos
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: [sepehr] on February 21, 2006, 06:51:45 PM
Compare the number of Christians beheaded to the number of Muslims bombed on in Iraq.

I don't understand how people can have this assumption that an American life is more valuable than an Iraqi one... if an Iraqi beheads an American, it's cruel, savage, etc... but if an American kills an entire Iraqi family, it's "collateral damage/understandable casualty of war"

The difference is pretty clear.
The fuck are you talking about? Please explain, how the Iraqi lives are less valuable and are justified deaths?
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Knuckles on February 21, 2006, 07:39:04 PM
The fuck are you talking about? Please explain, how the Iraqi lives are less valuable and are justified deaths?

I'm not talking about the lives of the casualties.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Eihtball on February 21, 2006, 08:03:32 PM
Yah, the Christian usually ends up getting beheaded. Infinite should consider himself lucky.....

Enough already.  You've made your point...you think Muslims are violent and intolerant.  Now please spare us.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on February 22, 2006, 12:15:05 AM
i got 20 dollars that the dude infinite encountered was one of those whtie people, i don't know what the "global" words for it is, but around here, we call them peckerwoods....they're not really rednecks but they have that kinda retarded mentality


don't worry man, i've encountered dudes like that before, according to one dude i'm going to hell because i'm sacreligious for having religious tattoos

having the name "Mary" tattoed on your ass isnt a "religious tatoo" Jake...so fuck what that guy says!  ;D
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on February 22, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
barnes and noble is dope. nice story, and im sorry that you encountered like that, im sure theres a peaceful nice christian out there, who got encountered and offended by some radical muslim.

Yah, the Christian usually ends up getting beheaded. Infinite should consider himself lucky.....

Compare the number of Christians beheaded to the number of Muslims bombed on in Iraq.

I don't understand how people can have this assumption that an American life is more valuable than an Iraqi one... if an Iraqi beheads an American, it's cruel, savage, etc... but if an American kills an entire Iraqi family, it's "collateral damage/understandable casualty of war"

Exactly



i got 20 dollars that the dude infinite encountered was one of those whtie people, i don't know what the "global" words for it is, but around here, we call them peckerwoods....they're not really rednecks but they have that kinda retarded mentality


don't worry man, i've encountered dudes like that before, according to one dude i'm going to hell because i'm sacreligious for having religious tattoos

having the name "Mary" tattoed on your ass isnt a "religious tatoo" Jake...so fuck what that guy says!  ;D
LOL. Props for the laugh.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Suffice on February 22, 2006, 03:47:53 AM
yeah, if this is all true, then the guy you talked to @ the bookstore is a complete idiot
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Shallow on February 23, 2006, 09:20:08 AM
Infinite; what is your infatuation with God taking a shit or not taking a shit? You bring it up so often. If God wants to take a shit he's going to take a shit and you can't stop him. Stop trying to explain and rationalize everything. You belive this, others believe that; end of story.


I don't expect an answer since you constantly avoid me. Of course I may be the only one on Earth who gets approached by relgion pushers on street corners (Jehovah's Witnesses, Born Again Christians, and Muslims) and won't leave them alone. It's funny watching them try to find an excuse them to not talk to me. You'd think they'd have thousands since that's all most people give them.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: RXL on March 05, 2006, 10:48:33 AM
IIf God wants to take a shit he's going to take a shit and you can't stop him.

Amen.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: mauzip on March 05, 2006, 12:22:01 PM
I'm happy I don't go to places where this bullshit can happen.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Don Jacob on March 08, 2006, 01:30:40 AM
i got 20 dollars that the dude infinite encountered was one of those whtie people, i don't know what the "global" words for it is, but around here, we call them peckerwoods....they're not really rednecks but they have that kinda retarded mentality


don't worry man, i've encountered dudes like that before, according to one dude i'm going to hell because i'm sacreligious for having religious tattoos

having the name "Mary" tattoed on your ass isnt a "religious tatoo" Jake...so fuck what that guy says!  ;D

man i told you to stop checkin out my ass
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on March 08, 2006, 07:44:12 AM
i got 20 dollars that the dude infinite encountered was one of those whtie people, i don't know what the "global" words for it is, but around here, we call them peckerwoods....they're not really rednecks but they have that kinda retarded mentality


don't worry man, i've encountered dudes like that before, according to one dude i'm going to hell because i'm sacreligious for having religious tattoos

having the name "Mary" tattoed on your ass isnt a "religious tatoo" Jake...so fuck what that guy says!  ;D

man i told you to stop checkin out my ass

lol
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 21, 2015, 04:03:22 PM
Infinite; what is your infatuation with God taking a shit or not taking a shit?
:laugh:
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: J. B A N A N A S on May 05, 2015, 03:50:12 PM
Liberal White people love feeling marginalized or oppressed. Makes them feel like they're somehow less full of shit than others.
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Ebenus Supremus on May 05, 2015, 04:55:15 PM
In a world where profit is the be all and end all, and everyone is a potential commodity to be exploited, if you don't fit the norm, your liable to encounter prejudice in one form or another... Racial, religious, class.... Its all so superficial, except we regard ourselves superior or inferior depending on environment, culture, economic standing or just a plain old complex.... Inequality exists in all facets of the community, usually due to a lack of understanding, lack of respect or lack of intelligence... I live in a redneck town, that, although its multicultural, and there is a small Islamic community, the majority of non Muslims practice an Ill educated prejudice toward Islamic ideologies because the only exposure they have to the religion is what they see on the news, which is predominantly negative and does not articulate the actual beliefs and customs of the majority of people who practice Islam as their faith.... When I lived in Hawthorn, the local church had a sign out the front that stated "Jesus loves Osama Bin Laden" which was a controversial topic, but actually disposes the myth that Christians are supposed to be anti Islam... Muslims recognise the Christian prophets but Christians don't recognise The Last Prophet (pbuh).... Then you've got Christians waiting on the second coming of Christ, but if you walked round stating you were Jesus reincarnate you'd be locked up in a psych ward or considered a cult leader.... Who's right, who's wrong? Acceptance of differences in faith and a desire and willingness to educate oneself about that which you are ignorant of, bar the stereotypes is the only way that racial, religious and social profiling and prejudice can be eradicated...
And a determination to expose the ignorant sons of dogs that practice it.... We need our politicians to set the example by upholding the laws which are supposed to protect people from experiencing such practices... That recent shooting at the "Draw a picture of Muhammad" competition, never would have happens if the people that organized the event had true respect for free speech, rather than disrespecting the rights of another by blasphemously disrespecting another's right to practice his faith.... Free speech should not encourage one to degrade another's beliefs, rather, it should encourage open and respectful dialogue about differences that are an obstacle to freedoms.... But people get so egotistical and self righteous that they demean and exploit the same laws that were passed in an effort to give proper exposure to issues of oppression and prejudice that prevent us all from experiencing the true beauty of equality....
Title: Re: Religious Profiling I Encountered Tonight...
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on May 05, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
Liberal White people love feeling marginalized or oppressed. Makes them feel like they're somehow less full of shit than others.

liberal white people are the most annoying of all political types in America.  Easily.