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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: AndrE16686 on March 09, 2006, 04:10:21 PM
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Please vote.
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i voted yes, but i meant no. the question on the poll is different than the topic question.
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i have seen this documentary called loose change. its amazing. it shows you what happened with facts. it was all a setup i dont believe anything, i dont even know if bin laden really had anything to do with anything. fuck that shit. you gotta peep that documentary
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I'm torn inbetween. Both have great arguments. We'll probably never know the truth. We can only speculate.
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i believe that there's definately somethin the government is leaving out caus like wat ekardz said, it doesn't make complete sense. im gonna hafta check out that documentary tho, whered u see it ekardz?
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i wholeheartedly believe in my heart of hearts that america set that shit up
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obviously somethin was fucked about it, but i dont know what the fuck happend....something is messed up tho, there are just too many unanswered questions, too many things wrong with everything surrounding it. There's a cover up for sure
we'll find out in 20 years
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i believe that there's definately somethin the government is leaving out caus like wat ekardz said, it doesn't make complete sense. im gonna hafta check out that documentary tho, whered u see it ekardz?
actually i downloaded it. ill see if i can find a link
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loose change documentary
http://files.filefront.com/looseqalrar/;4849938;;/fileinfo.html
Loose Change 2nd Edition
What if:
The Twin Towers were not hit by commercial airliners?
The World Trade Center was brought down in a controlled demolition?
The Pentagon was not hit by a 757?
Flight 93 was shot down?
What if?
Three years after September 11th, the American People are left with more
questions than answers. This documentary addresses those questions, as well as
providing the evidence necessary to begin answering them. From the phony bin
Laden tape to the lack of a 757 at the Pentagon, Loose Change wraps everything
up into an hour of solid evidence.
AVI File Details
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What we do know...
-the 911 Commision is a joke
-Bush is a liar
-Bush/Isreal wanted a justification to control the Caspain sea oil pipeline in Afganistan
-Bush/Isreal has had their eye on Iraq for decades, just waiting on an excuse to occupy the region
-Some of the Usama tapes have already been proven to be fake
-If some Muslims really did hijack the plane, then they died in commiting the act, so any accusation of outside parties is just conjecture
-The media and the US government has a clear agenda to demonize Muslims dating back to the 1950's when they realized how crucial oil was in Muslim lands, and they began taking military action in the region.
-the government has lied in the past to start wars, they claimed that North Vietnam attacked some US ships at sea, an incident that never occured.
Conclusion: Yeah, it was probably set up by Isreal/CIA/Masood/ or groups even more obscure then the CIA/Masood. But Allah knows best what really occured.
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props on the hookup ekardz, ima peep this bitch tmw b4 i head down to VA for the weekend.
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I believe it is quite clear that 9/11 was a set up, i dont blame people who still refuse to acknowledge this, as it is a pretty scary thought but then when you look at past events which have now been exposed as complete lies then you realise how much of a sham this is.
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9/11 helped the agenda.
I decided that that would be all I ever really say.
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^ Thats a cop out cuz
go hard or go home
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Bush/Isreal has had their eye on Iraq for decades
The Bush administration hasn't been around for decades, how is it possible Bush had his eye on Iraq for decades. :)
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Bush/Isreal has had their eye on Iraq for decades
The Bush administration hasn't been around for decades, how is it possible Bush had his eye on Iraq for decades. :)
his dad
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decades of cadency?
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i watched this documentary called "911 in plane sight" it shows that there was something strapped to the bottom of a plane that hit the twin towers. the plane explodes as soon as it touches the building which is impossible. and terrorists cant strap a bomb to a commercial plane. had to be an inside job
and the pentagon case couldnt be a commercial plane, more like a missle, because the hole in the building was too small for a commercial jet
peace
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i heard it was really an over grown pelican strapped with C4 that felw into the twin towers... i saw a 2 hour documentary on it that made no money in the making of the film... must be true.
it's good to see that there arent any people out there that prey on the stupid to sell them anything, even if they dont want to buy it.
everything i just said is true.
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i heard it was really an over grown pelican strapped with C4 that felw into the twin towers... i saw a 2 hour documentary on it that made no money in the making of the film... must be true.
it's good to see that there arent any people out there that prey on the stupid to sell them anything, even if they dont want to buy it.
everything i just said is true.
shut up man if u knew anything ud know the offical account of 9/11 is fukkin laughable
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^ the U.S government did not destroy the twin towers... it didnt have to be al quaeda, it could have been the tele tubbies for all i know... but how can you live in a country where you believe your government would destroy so many lives to invade iraq... especially in such a manner, they could have achieved the goal using other means, they didnt have to fly a plane into a land-mark...
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i find those documentaries so fucking stupid, they are disigned in a way to make you believe the propaganda, when what you dumbasses dont realise is there are more gaps and faults in the propaganda than there are in the 9/11 report.
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but how can you live in a country where you believe your government would destroy so many lives to invade iraq...
nah still off mayne
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but how can you live in a country where you believe your government would destroy so many lives to invade iraq...
nah still off mayne
i'm referring to the majortity of people... not you.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801
http://www.loosechange911.com/
a certain group of people is so not gonna click on that 8)
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loose change documentary
http://files.filefront.com/looseqalrar/;4849938;;/fileinfo.html
Loose Change 2nd Edition
What if:
The Twin Towers were not hit by commercial airliners?
The World Trade Center was brought down in a controlled demolition?
The Pentagon was not hit by a 757?
Flight 93 was shot down?
What if?
Three years after September 11th, the American People are left with more
questions than answers. This documentary addresses those questions, as well as
providing the evidence necessary to begin answering them. From the phony bin
Laden tape to the lack of a 757 at the Pentagon, Loose Change wraps everything
up into an hour of solid evidence.
AVI File Details
========================================
Name.........: 911 - Loose Change 2nd Edition DVDRip (ConCen) XviD.avi
Filesize.....: 698 MB (or 715,186 KB or 732,350,464 bytes)
Runtime......: 01:21:51 (147,175 fr)
Video Codec..: XviD (DX50, KISS)
Video Bitrate: 1057 kb/s
Audio Codec..: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Bitrate: 128 kb/s (64/ch, stereo) CBR
Frame Size...: 640x360 (1.78:1) [=16:9]
AVI File Details
========================================
Name.........: 911 - Loose Change 2nd Edition Extra Footage DVDRip (ConCen) XviD.avi
Filesize.....: 199 MB (or 204,466 KB or 209,373,184 bytes)
Runtime......: 00:25:18 (45,500 fr)
Video Codec..: XviD (DX50, KISS)
Video Bitrate: 968 kb/s
Audio Codec..: 0x0055(MP3) ID'd as MPEG-1 Layer 3
Audio Bitrate: 128 kb/s (64/ch, stereo) CBR
Frame Size...: 640x360 (1.78:1) [=16:9]
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are you guys serious at actually tihnking it was a set-up? thats the dumbest shit ive read in a long time. ::)
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there is a lot of telling evidence to support that it might have been a set up but its all after the fact shit. i doubt that it was actually a set up as its just to grandeur and too horrendously sadistic to plan such an act just for the bush agenda. and to imagine that if someone actually came out wit evidence accusing them of it being a set up. thered be chaos and everyone on the bush agenda would be shunned from the country. i do think though that bush is a shady character who has lied and manipulated the truth for his own agenda like his WMD's.
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I made this poll jus to get an idea of what others think.
I DON'T believe this was a neo-con set up.
I do believe its healthy for any people in a democracy to question and deeply scrutinise their government's every action. These investigative documentaries seem to be doing just that.
Keep voting people.
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major props to ekardz and 7 for the hookups. I came into this topic with a predetermined opinion but im gonna check out the Arguments for both sides.
Does anyone have a dvd defending the goverment and blaming al Queda, i would like to get a full perspective on boht.
Oh yea props to YGZ for making a good debate topic
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George Bush was a pilot, right? I think the hitler motherfucker flew it into the buildings himself, then parachuted out at the last second. That's why they couldn't find him all day. VIVA LA FRANCE!!!
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What interests me is that the FBI supposedly confiscated video footage of the tower attack taken by Mossad agents (came across it: http://911physics.co.nr/ ) and that the FBI dosn't seek Osama directly for the 9/11 attacks, only for the murder people OUTSIDE the U.S.
This is merely speculation, but it appears the FBI haven't completely bought into the official story, if there is some form of treachery occuring than the FBI appear to be keeping relatively detached least they appear involved. Only speculation.
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Yeah you are spot on with that, if you type in Bush told FBI not to interfere in investigation you will find numerous articles detailing exactly what you just said. It wasn't that they have ignored it but more people inside the FBI have been silenced or sacked.
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I made this poll jus to get an idea of what others think.
I DON'T believe this was a neo-con set up.
I do believe its healthy for any people in a democracy to question and deeply scrutinise their government's every action. These investigative documentaries seem to be doing just that.
Keep voting people.
all these documentaries are doing is manipulating stupid people into believing anything... i'm sorry for calling the people that believe this stupid, but fuck it, you are dumb...
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^or maybe overdone conspiracy theories are made up in order to make ppl who consider sensible ones look dumb to ppl who are actually dumb
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I agree with that 7, some of these conspiracy theories are so ludicrous you have to ask yourself who is creating them, are they formed through the imagination of the propagandanist department or just by some hair brains?. Either way all they do is discredit all of the things which can be proven, in fact they completely overshadowy them and instead of the fundamental lies it instead drags us into the things which can never be proven beyond speculation like what type of explosives did they use, or the ridiculous idea that no planes actually hit. If you want a comprehensive documented look at 911 i recommend going to www.infowars.com, they have a massive archive on 911.
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^or maybe overdone conspiracy theories are made up in order to make ppl who consider sensible ones look dumb to ppl who are actually dumb
lol, yeah maybe...