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Title: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Jip on April 14, 2006, 08:47:14 AM
 A source exclusive to SOHH.com has revealed that the argument that resulted in the death of D12 member Proof was initiated by the other victim in the shootout over a "King of Detroit" argument.

As SOHH previously reported, Proof and Keith Bender got into a heated exchange at Triple C's nightclub early Tuesday morning (April 11) which lead to Proof pistol-whipping and shooting Bender. Proof was then gunned down by Bender's cousin as he stood over Bender.

"[Bender] started an argument with Proof, knowing who he was," the source told SOHH. "Proof told him he didn't want to hear any bullshit and that he was 'King of Detroit' and stuck his hands in [Bender's] face.

The guy then pulled out his gun and then Proof pulled his out and shot -- hitting the guy," the source added. "The guy's cousin who is a bouncer at the club then shot Proof. They grabbed up the gun from the guy Proof shot and fled."

According to the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office, Proof was shot three times in the head and the chest. He was pronounced dead on arrival at St. John Conner Creek Village in Detroit. Bender is currently in St. Johns Hospital and Medical Center in critical condition.

On Wednesday afternoon (April 12), Mario Etheridge, a 28 year-old bouncer at the Triple C's nightclub, turned himself in to Detroit Police accompanied by his attorney Randall Upshaw. Upon arrest, he revealed he was Bender's cousin.

Etheridge is still in custody and authorities are continuing to investigate whether he should face charges in the shooting, which Detroit Police said, might have been in self-defense. But SOHH.com sources say Etheridge surrendered out of self-preservation.

"The guy turned himself in out of fear he was going to get got at by Proof's people," said the source. "Proof frequented the place and there is of course no way the bouncer or anyone else in the club didn't know who he was,"

http://www.sohh.com/articles/article.php/8747
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: QCDutch on April 14, 2006, 09:01:45 AM
Thats some stupid shit to die over
but as far as hiphop goes, he prolly was the king of detroit
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Jip on April 14, 2006, 09:03:53 AM
yea :(
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: africas seed on April 14, 2006, 09:04:04 AM
hopefully theres more to the story cuz thats a sad way to go out.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: ABN on April 14, 2006, 09:10:06 AM
if the guy that Proof shot pulled out first then there´s no way that the guy who shot Proof will get away with self defense.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Black_Smoke on April 14, 2006, 09:13:28 AM
hopefully theres more to the story cuz thats a sad way to go out.

word
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: eKardz on April 14, 2006, 09:15:53 AM
if dude pulled the tool first then proof shot him in self defense.  thats some weak shit to die for fuck them niggas.

rip derrty harry
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Ozir on April 14, 2006, 12:14:17 PM
I kinda believe this story a little more... it makes more sense... although the whole situation was some "nonsense" going on.

The other story claims that Proof and Bender were fighting and then someone fired a shot into the ceiling.  Then everyone got quiet.  Then Proof pistol whipped and shot Bender.

If that was the case, everyone in that club would be able to easily remember that and corraborate it.  Plus it doesn't make sense that Proof woulda pistol whipped and shot dude after someone popped a round into the ceiling and everybody was quiet and watching.

This story about Proof shooting the guy after the dude pulled a gun makes more logical sense.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: T-Dogg on April 14, 2006, 04:19:47 PM
Something just struck me as a bit odd.

Proof was shot in the head from the back right?

How come the reports say Proof got shot "three times in the head and the chest"?

I'm not going on some conspiracy theory trip, but wouldn't it be extremely borderline self defense to shoot a guy from the back to his head first, and then shoot him in the chest?
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 14, 2006, 04:30:40 PM
so these dudes died over a debate about being the "king of detroit"? lmao sorry but thats funny
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: QuietTruth on April 14, 2006, 04:34:41 PM
Something just struck me as a bit odd.

Proof was shot in the head from the back right?

How come the reports say Proof got shot "three times in the head and the chest"?

I'm not going on some conspiracy theory trip, but wouldn't it be extremely borderline self defense to shoot a guy from the back to his head first, and then shoot him in the chest?

Is probably just all them damn witnesses sayin 'this happned no this did'

Witness after witness....they all have something different to say
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Jip on April 14, 2006, 04:41:23 PM
Something just struck me as a bit odd.

Proof was shot in the head from the back right?

How come the reports say Proof got shot "three times in the head and the chest"?

I'm not going on some conspiracy theory trip, but wouldn't it be extremely borderline self defense to shoot a guy from the back to his head first, and then shoot him in the chest?

im no expert on guns but they have recoil, if the guy fires 4 shots, the first one goes in his chest, his hand goes up due to recoil the the next 3 hit him in the head or something

his head must have been a mess
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Eihtball on April 14, 2006, 04:46:44 PM
Something just struck me as a bit odd.

Proof was shot in the head from the back right?

How come the reports say Proof got shot "three times in the head and the chest"?

I'm not going on some conspiracy theory trip, but wouldn't it be extremely borderline self defense to shoot a guy from the back to his head first, and then shoot him in the chest?

It's possible that the impact of the shots caused his body to jerk involuntarily.  Maybe he got shot in the chest first, and then turned, and as he did, he got bucked in the head.  Or maybe the other way around, I dunno.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: T-Dogg on April 14, 2006, 05:22:54 PM
^^
Yeah, most likely something like that...

Fucked up shit...
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Citizen-Y on April 14, 2006, 08:43:25 PM
so these dudes died over a debate about being the "king of detroit"? lmao sorry but thats funny

as my friend from Detroit said, "It'd be like saying "I'm King of this really shitty area nobody else wants to live in".
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Ozir on April 15, 2006, 05:50:25 AM

Is probably just all them damn witnesses sayin 'this happned no this did'

Witness after witness....they all have something different to say

This is exactly why I don't believe the first story... that a shot was fired into the ceiling and then everyone got quiet and then Proof popped Bender.

Everyone would remember that... the story would be the same or very similar by everyone.

This story about Bender pulling a gun seems more logical to me.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on April 15, 2006, 12:17:43 PM
thats some of the stupidest shit to ever die over.  Proof popped first? oh well.  I thought it was a random shooting but it was warranted.  The bouncer will prolly get off since Proof actually shot at dude.  Did the other guy die too?
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Jip on April 15, 2006, 12:23:39 PM
thats some of the stupidest shit to ever die over.  Proof popped first? oh well.  I thought it was a random shooting but it was warranted.  The bouncer will prolly get off since Proof actually shot at dude.  Did the other guy die too?

if he doesnt die, he will be a cabbage for the rest of his life
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: arsonist on April 15, 2006, 02:41:04 PM
DAMN, THAT WAS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT, WHO IS NEXT THE GAME (CLAIMS TO THE KING OF LA), T.I. (CLAIMS TO BE THE KING OF THE SOUTH), KOOPA KING OF H-TOWN, I GUESS, JIM JONES WAS RIGHT. WHAT MOVIE DO U WATCH AND AT THE END THE KING IS STILL ALIVE.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: QuietTruth on April 15, 2006, 02:46:43 PM
DAMN, THAT WAS SOME FUCKED UP SHIT, WHO IS NEXT THE GAME (CLAIMS TO THE KING OF LA), T.I. (CLAIMS TO BE THE KING OF THE SOUTH), KOOPA KING OF H-TOWN, I GUESS, JIM JONES WAS RIGHT. WHAT MOVIE DO U WATCH AND AT THE END THE KING IS STILL ALIVE.

That's messed up
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Dubz on April 15, 2006, 02:52:40 PM
this story is much more credible than the first one is. dumb way to go out, but if dude pulled a strap on him first, i guess Proof didnt have much of a choice. RIP.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Ðøšïå on April 15, 2006, 06:22:42 PM
it really is unfort for all three of them. but if im not mistaken the guy proof had shot in the head was the cousin of the guy who shot and killed proof... correct? and i like proof as a rapper, but if he was standing over my cousin and had already shot him i would shoot at him without thought. and i would be shooting to kill. i dont care if i was behind him, next to him, or in front of him. i am glad i am never in situations like that. yay for tucson.
Title: Re: "King of Detroit" Argument Sparked Proof Shooting, Says Witness
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on April 16, 2006, 10:11:34 AM
thats sad