West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Javier on April 15, 2006, 05:20:12 PM
-
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=local&id=4070076
"The most troubling flyer, Campos says, was one calling on -- in bold letters -- legal citizens to burn down the homes of illegal residents."
Looks like the actions of one terrorist.
-
Looks like the actions of one terrorist.
for real :P
-
That doesn't seem that bad. The racism of the Mexican protestors was alot worse.
-
That doesn't seem that bad. The racism of the Mexican protestors was alot worse.
Dumbest Post in the History of WCC
-
That doesn't seem that bad. The racism of the Mexican protestors was alot worse.
Dumbest Post in the History of WCC
How is that dumb?
-
You're not this fucking ignorant are ya? You're saying burning homes of Citizens that rent out their houses to illegals is not that bad because there are people protesting? Whoever passed out those flyers is asking for people to do terrorist attacks. Terrorism is Terrorism
-
And when these groups like Mecha openly advocate genocide, that is terrorism to, terrorism is terrorism as is this case. Although its not the illegal immigrants fault its the governments deliberate actions which cause this.
-
No one is going to burn down the homes of illegal aliens. Relax.
Americans are the most open and tolerant group of people in the world.
-
And when these groups like Mecha openly advocate genocide, that is terrorism to, terrorism is terrorism as is this case. Although its not the illegal immigrants fault its the governments deliberate actions which cause this.
That is true. However he didn't clarify what protesters. This piece of shit said "The racism of the Mexican protestors was alot worse." That's like saying "The terrorism of the Muslims is a lot worse", "the laziness of the blacks", etc.
By the way, these are only the extreme members of Mecha.
-
No one is going to burn down the homes of illegal aliens. Relax.
Americans are the most open and tolerant group of people in the world.
That's not the point. If it were to happen you would have not been outraged like you are with muslim extremist. You would have just said "oh it's not as bad as what the Mexicans want"
-
And when these groups like Mecha openly advocate genocide, that is terrorism to, terrorism is terrorism as is this case. Although its not the illegal immigrants fault its the governments deliberate actions which cause this.
MEChA is a student group. They meet every Tuesday night at 7:00 pm in the student union. Dude, you can attent the meetings, and get all the inside information. I have been to plenty of MEChA meetings in my life, my dad being a former MEChA president, I learned a lot about how to raise money to pay for events, like the ever racist Cinco de Mayo fiesta that all students are invited too, and the most racist event of all, how to raise awareness about Caeser Chavez and the farmers movement.
-
The United States Department of Defense defintion of Terrorism.
"the calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological."
-
What does MECHA stand for and what is their motto?
-
Way to chicken out you little bitch
-
Javy I am not disagreeing with you I think both the example you gave and the one I gave are acts of terrorism but as for the person trying to whitewash Mecha you are fooling no one unless of course you are that ignorant and dont understand what they stand for. As for the real idiot (real american) just dont even take any notice of what he says I sure dont.
-
That doesn't seem that bad. The racism of the Mexican protestors was alot worse.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Your fear brings me joy.
-
Javy I am not disagreeing with you I think both the example you gave and the one I gave are acts of terrorism but as for the person trying to whitewash Mecha you are fooling no one unless of course you are that ignorant and dont understand what they stand for. As for the real idiot (real american) just dont even take any notice of what he says I sure dont.
Just to clear things up, I wasn't calling you a little bitch lol
-
Haha I know you weren't, my language would have read a lot differently if I had thought that
-
I still want M Dogg to tell everyone what MECHA stands for and what their motto is.
-
It's not going to matter. Your ass reasoning with an act of violence is worse than some fucking motto.
-
It's not going to matter. Your ass reasoning with an act of violence is worse than some fucking motto.
Personally, I wouldn't be suprised if Mexicans were the ones who wrote those messages. To drum up sympathy for illegal aliens.
-
Real American are you that blind? that is exactly what the powers want, why do you think they allow millions and millions of illegal immigrants to cross into america because they want tension to be created, they want the races at war with one another, its called divide and conquer. Also from a moral standpoint what you said is completely vile and also wake up and see the big picture, your view is exactly the type of view that sick fucks like Mecha crave to give their view impetus and more appeal
-
Real American are you that blind? that is exactly what the powers want, why do you think they allow millions and millions of illegal immigrants to cross into america because they want tension to be created, they want the races at war with one another, its called divide and conquer. Also from a moral standpoint what you said is completely vile and also wake up and see the big picture, your view is exactly the type of view that sick fucks like Mecha crave to give their view impetus and more appeal
What the hell are you talking about? The powers that be don't want a race war, they just want cheap labor. And what exactly did I say that was so vile and sick?
-
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
-
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
"That doesn't seem that bad."
The Archie Bunker wanna-be just ethered himself
-
Mods please delete this thread.
-
Do you have a sister by any chance?
-
If you knew anything about Yugoslavia you would realise that the powers did exactly the same thing there. The goal is a race war,for which they will have the solution once again, which is those internment camps.
-
Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán
The motto of MEChA is La Unión Hace La Fuerza, or "Unity Creates Strength".
-
Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán
And what exactly does the Aztlan part of MECHA refer to?
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
The motto of MEChA is La Unión Hace La Fuerza, or "Unity Creates Strength".
Actually I read that their motto is "For the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing."
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
-
lol aww poor real american. Wah Wah Wah. You've been exposed for the stupid shit that you are. End of story.
-
You know if there was a story about a latino handing out flyers saying to burn down the houses of White Americans, you would be the first one to diss the entire latino community. After all, you do think that Mecha represents the people of Mexico, lmao.
-
Javy 2 things, firstly how big is the following of Mecha? and secondly I wouldnt condone actions of burning down homes but on a serious note the number of illegal immigrants is going to completely destroy america in the end. Yes it will benefit the rich corporations but it is going to make everyone elses life hell. These demonstrations are ridiculous because if the demonstrators get their way the american citizen is going to be bled dry, the standard of living in america will get even worse than it is now. You know its already becoming a terrible place for many people whites latinos blacks who have such financial hardships already.
-
Virtuso, what exactly do you think the illegal immigrants want?
-
Mecha is only in about a dozen or so Universities and many high school campuses. The one in my HS was highly dedicated to community work and no members from that Mecha really want to take the land back lol. Would a University really allow an extreme club? They wouldn't and Mecha isn't an extreme club, sure there are probably some crazy members of Mecha but overall they're just there to help other latinos out. How big could it really be? I don't know the percentage of Mexicans that go to college, but I imagine it's low plus how many of the people that actualy went to college would join a club? It just keeps on getting lower. Then once inside the group how many of them actually want to take the land back? And it continues to lower.
-
I notice you arent answering what I said but what the illegal immigrants want is a better life. Corporations know that there are millions and millions of people desperate to come into the country and so they are able to exploit this by paying them far less. Meanwhile poor blacks whites hispanics are left to suffer. The corporations know that the more illegal immigrants that flood in the more the demand for jobs and thus they can continue to pay even less. So like I said the american citizen is the one who greatly suffers from all of this and I find it bizarre that some people refuse to accept this. it's not about all latinos together they are just pawns. My fear is it will get to a point where american citizens will feel seething hatred towards these people and a race war will erupt. Its obvious that the corporations nor the government couldnt give a shit and are quite happily allowing this to continue. As corporations basically control the joke of a government anyway.
The same thing is happening here in England, but we are told to think of these poor people who just want to work. i have never refuted that but people refuse to see that the implications for allowing masses of immigration are enormous.
Note As for what you said about Mecha thanks but in response to you asking would universities allow extreme groups into their universities the answer is yes they would. 2 examples of the top of my head would be the most recent ones Dr Kambau calling for the extermination of all white people and Dr Pianka advocating the extermination of 90% of people. Both were allowed to say this in uni lectures.
-
I notice you arent answering what I said but what the illegal immigrants want is a better life. Corporations know that there are millions and millions of people desperate to come into the country and so they are able to exploit this by paying them far less. Meanwhile poor blacks whites hispanics are left to suffer. The corporations know that the more illegal immigrants that flood in the more the demand for jobs and thus they can continue to pay even less. So like I said the american citizen is the one who greatly suffers from all of this and I find it bizarre that some people refuse to accept this. it's not about all latinos together they are just pawns. My fear is it will get to a point where american citizens will feel seething hatred towards these people and a race war will erupt. Its obvious that the corporations nor the government couldnt give a shit and are quite happily alonging this to continue. As corporations basically control the joke of a government anyway.
The same thing is happening here in England, but we are told to think of these poor people who just want to work. i have never refuted that but people refuse to see that the implications for allowing masses of immigration are enormous
The thing is...
-Illegal Immigrants want to become Legal Residents.
A few things on this, this will be impossible to grant all of them residency status just like it will be impossible to kick all of them out. Some of them will become legal residents and this will help the economy because businesses won't be able to pay them under the minimum wage. So shouldn't you be in favor of granting some illegals their residency status so they affect the economy as much?
-My Civil Liberties will be violated, so that part of the bill will be fucked.
They want to give local and state law enforcement the right to deport illegals. Only way they can find out if someone is illegal is if someone reports them or if a cop just starts asking for people's paper. Fuck that shit, that's a violation of my civil liberties.
-The illegal immigrants here aren't asking for the borders to be open also. Nobody wants that actually.
-
What I am saying is that the border security should be much greater George Bush spoke this bs about Border Patrol numbers being increased but this is crap. It didnt take into account those had left and the net figure was actually down from 5 years ago. Secondly there are millions of americans who cant find jobs as it is so allowing these people to legally settle here doesnt help anyone. Thirdly for those that do legally settle here, corporations will have no interest in anyway because they just want those they can exploit. The answer really is to close the borders, or america and europe will be reduced to such abject poverty that days of any kind of middle class will be completely wiped out. They will become the new poor and the existing poor will literally be reduced to third world status. Finally yes I understand what you mean about it being a violation of your civil liberties. The thing is I think most people would be able to accept amnesty for the illegal immigrants already in the country if they knew that was it, a complete crackdown on the borders. The despicable way in which the media and politicicans have attacked the minutemen for instance says it all.
In fact some of those minutemen are hispanic, its not just white people and black people who are against this kind of mass immigration its also hispanics as was highlighted in that article someone posted.
-
What do you think they're doing in Congress right now? That's probably the biggest issue they're worried about right now. What is the best way to control the border situation. Increasing border security has been done, this is a fact. It's made the situation worse because it is so tough to come in that most immigrants don't even want to come back. Thousands of people die a year crossing the border, because they've increased border security in the south west region of the country so now the illegals have to come in extremely dangerous parts of the country. Come on, there's a shortage of workers here in agriculture industry of California (the state you assume would be the worst off with illegal immigration), people can easily get a job here with the presense of illegals and all. California is still suffering thanks to the god damn rape of Enron. Hasn't there been cases of violence towards people crossing the border? Come on, they should just let the border patrol do it's job.
-
A good friend of mine George lived in Texas no less than 3 years ago, now I forget the name of the town which is on the border but he said it was very easy for them to get all they did was wade across a wide river, which wasnt particularly deep. Now as for the border patrolmen it is a fact that the net total has actually diminished and secondly they have even been ordered to stand down and not apprehend illegal immigrants http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050513-122032-5055r.htm also I think this idea that the minutemen have been attacking people is propaganda. Since the government is creating a situation in which they are trying to prevent the border patrol from doing their job then the minutemen are greatly needed.
Also there is no way that huge underground tunnel was built without the U.S knowing all about, this notion that they discovered it is just a fallacy. The government and the corporations are acting as one in order to try and ensure as many illegal immigrants do come over as possible. Those government officials at the very top that is.
-
A good friend of mine George lived in Texas no less than 3 years ago, now I forget the name of the town which is on the border but he said it was very easy for them to get all they did was wade across a wide river, which wasnt particularly deep. Now as for the border patrolmen it is a fact that the net total has actually diminished and secondly they have even been ordered to stand down and not apprehend illegal immigrants http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050513-122032-5055r.htm also I think this idea that the minutemen have been attacking people is propaganda. Since the government is creating a situation in which they are trying to prevent the border patrol from doing their job then the minutemen are greatly needed.
Also there is no way that huge underground tunnel was built without the U.S knowing all about, this notion that they discovered it is just a fallacy. The government and the corporations are acting as one in order to try and ensure as many illegal immigrants do come over as possible. Those government officials at the very top that is.
It's pretty obvious that violence could errupt if civilians are trying to apprehend people crossing the border. It seems to me that your main beef is with the government, all I've been saying is that the illegals are human beings too and some parts of the proposed bill will be inhumane so I'm just letting the politicians do what they feel is best with the border patrol sitaution. Call me naive, but I don't think this government is that weak.
-
im down for burning mexican flags cuz they wanna be a part of our country right??? but ppls homes is straight up terrorism. cmon mexicans we gotta reach some agreement u have to assimilate to our countries culture if u dont wanna be treated like shit. show us youre not less evolved as humans.
-
cmon mexicans we gotta reach some agreement u have to assimilate to our countries culture if u dont wanna be treated like shit. show us youre not less evolved as humans.
???
-
cmon mexicans we gotta reach some agreement u have to assimilate to our countries culture if u dont wanna be treated like shit. show us youre not less evolved as humans.
???
the masses of mexicans are the laughing stock of working americans. i talk to chinese, philipino, whites, blacks, and shit even some mexicans at work think the fools making all the noise running in the streets are fuckin idiots and say they should go back to mexico. immigrants from other countries have to learn our language and often teach their kids to excell. mexicans hop a fence, cut grass, and expect free shit which the american middle class doesent get because they arent "disadvantaged" enough. thats why i hear, "maybe theyre just not as evolved as other people" from hard working immigrants i work along side with everyday
-
it may sound like I'm hating on Mexicans and maybe to a certain extent I really am a racist, I wont rule that out. but when hoardes of people are leeching off your way of life and telling you it's not good enough as they blabber on about unity in their own language, i should have every right to be pissed.
-
You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about lol.
-
You just don't know what the fuck you're talking about lol.
yeah u write lol on one side but theres millions of Americans laughing/waiting to fuck u up for the shit coming out your mouth
-
Again, if you don't know what the fuck is going on don't speak on the situation at hand.
-
Again, if you don't know what the fuck is going on don't speak on the situation at hand.
thats why i tell those mexicans to keep they boca cerrado and stick to what they do best, cookin me my chpotle and slappin tweety bird stickers on the side of their shitty ass whip!
-
Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán
And what exactly does the Aztlan part of MECHA refer to?
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
The motto of MEChA is La Unión Hace La Fuerza, or "Unity Creates Strength".
Actually I read that their motto is "For the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing."
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
EXPOSED
it's a student group. Yeah, a couple of members are extreme, but so are some members of the Republican party who are KKK members. Most MEChA members are just regular students like Jake and my dad at one time, and they do lots of community work and focus on school celebrations. You believe what racist Fox News tells you to fear us. Fuck Fox News, and any other racist media outlets.
-
The motto spews venemous hate to anyone outside the race, so all of those in Mecha are extremists because they advocate the motto. This has nothing to do with the media in fact the media mostly ignores Mecha and these other twisted latino groups. The motto says it all so dont twist this into racism against Mecha thats just pure double think
-
Chicano Student Movement of Aztlán
The motto of MEChA is La Unión Hace La Fuerza, or "Unity Creates Strength".
That's the real motto. As Big Jake, he use to argue on behalf of all you neo cons, and he was a member of MEChA. I can bring you my cousin who was in MEChA and is now a very hardline Republican who also was disgusted on how the media and neo con websites twisted the motto saying what they said. The motto is Unity Creates Strength, unity of who, the people. MEChA is STUDENTS, for the last time, it's a student group. Sure there are some crazy students in MEChA, just like there are members of the Klan in the Republican party. But most of the students are just your regular Chicano students who want to learn more about Aztlán, and help put on student activities such as celebrating Caser Chavez Day, which is a state holiday in California, and having the Cinco De Mayo fiesta and bringing awareness about the CHICANO movement. And what are Chicanos, they are Mexican-Americans, they are born in the US, and they feel the South-West is Aztlán, which is the land that the Aztecs use to live in before the immigranted into Mexico to create the Aztec Empire. Don't get your shit twisted. My dad was the president of a MEChA group when I was growing up, I know about MEChA and their history, and I know about what MEChA is about, and what their mottos and beliefs are. Don't step up, you arms are too short to box this round homie.
-
In April 1969, Chicano college students held a conference at the University of California, Santa Barbara. Many of the attendees were present at the First National Chicano Youth Liberation Conference hosted by Rodolfo "Corky" Gonzales's Crusade for Justice a month prior, and the Santa Barbara conference represented the extension of the Chicano Youth Movement into the realm of higher education.
The name "Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán" was already in use by a few groups, and the name was adopted by the conference attendees because of the importance of each of the words and as a means of transcending the regional nature of the multiple campus-based groups. Conference attendees also set the national agenda and drafted the Plan de Santa Barbara, a pedagogic manifesto.
MEChA chapters first took root on California college campuses and then expanded to high schools and schools in other states. It soon became one of the primary Mexican-American organizations, hosting functions, developing community leaders, and politically pressuring educational institutions.
MEChA was fundamental in the adoption of Chicano studies programs and departments in academia.
-
You assume I am a neocon? no I hate the neocons they are just as psychotic as Mecha there is nothing harmless about Mecha you know what the motto is you know about La Raza. You can disguise it as just a group of students with a few wackos in but fortunately most people are better informed than that.
rom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Originally applied to the 700 year effort to retake Iberia from the Islamic Moors, Reconquista today refers to an explicit agenda of M.E.Ch.A. (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan) to retake lands from the U.S. which once belonged to Mexico. This would include Texas, California, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas, and Oklahoma, all of which were ceded by Mexico under terms of the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848.
The primary method for this 'reconquest' is demographic. By means of legal and illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America, and by means of high birthrates among non-White Hispanics, the non-non-White Hispanic population will be reduced to a minority which can be voted out of power and influence. While nominally nonviolent this will force African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Native-Americans and European-Americans out of what will be called Aztlan.
Reconquista is not integrationist or assimilationist, but rather is separatist and explicitly racial. M.E.Ch.A.'s motto translates as, 'Everything for the race. Nothing outside the race.'
Since this is the actual translation and you deny what is actually fact then you are only helping to expose that you advocate such a plan and see it as "harmless"
-
You assume I am a neocon? no I hate the neocons they are just as psychotic as Mecha there is nothing harmless about Mecha you know what the motto is you know about La Raza. You can disguise it as just a group of students with a few wackos in but fortunately most people are better informed than that.
La Raza is the Race, or the people. It's a group that's about having pride. It's a group about Unity, and standing for our civil rights. It's a Chicano movement, which is different than an Illegal Immigrant movement, because we are born here. In fact, Mexicans from Mexico hate us, they say we lost our culture, our language, our way of being. And Americans think we are trash, to be treated as bad as illegals that come here. That's why we are about unity with ourselves, because the motto you are thinking of is Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada, but it does not mean what you think it means. It roughly means, United we stand, Divided we fall. Literally, it means whatever the fuck CWalker thinks it means. But you have to remember that the people that made up MEChA are not from Mexico, and how they used Spanish was not exactly currected. This is also why the document where that came from has not been used since 1969. As I said, your arms are too short.