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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on May 06, 2006, 06:22:51 PM

Title: Yeah I AGREE NOW!!!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on May 06, 2006, 06:22:51 PM
Tha Doggfather album is more a disapointment than a Classic , I was listening to it everynight  for over a month (without skippin) and yes its a disapointment, and not because of the beats but because of Snoop himself, lyrics wise and flow wise, and why the fuck did they put "freestyle conversation"' on there? ..shit is wack

anyway i felt like sharing this with y'all
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Post by: Fonky Fresh on May 06, 2006, 06:42:29 PM
thats what i claims since YEARS i was hella disapointed when this came out especially on the dpgc reunions tracks

the first single was Ok  but after that, that was the big blank
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Post by: thugz_passion on May 06, 2006, 08:17:37 PM
after chronic & doggystyle
he jus went downhill
dunno how he made so much money thru the years
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 06, 2006, 08:18:47 PM
yeah right, I like this CD better than "Doggstyle"
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Post by: Diabolical on May 06, 2006, 08:40:46 PM
yeah right, I like this CD better than "Doggstyle"

Boy, you crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: d-nice on May 06, 2006, 09:12:28 PM
I liked the album. Doggystyle it was not but the production was tight (Pooh and Daz) alot of dpgc appearances (kurupt was vintage on that disc) and Snoop you gotta remember lost Dr. Dre. Dre was not just a producer for Snoop, he also directed Snoop's music. Flow, lyrics, song structure everything. Nothing against Daz and DJ Pooh but it just seemed like Snoop was getting in the studio and just bustin some tight freestyles (And that pimp persona started to come out on this album too). I think that murder trial took alot out of Snoop. This album he was thinking about what he said and the impact it might have on people and he even said in a interview that he wanted to get away from that hardcore rap. I think now he has found a medium inbetween. He is not the same rapper with just gangsta rap and he is not going to feel like he is just a 1 dimensional rapper either. He has become a more complete artist. I agree it was a HUGE drop from Doggystyle but I still bump that album.
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Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on May 06, 2006, 09:16:10 PM
doggystyle is a fuckin classic, Doggfather never had a chance it was such a high standard to surpass.
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Post by: MontrealCity's Most on May 06, 2006, 09:29:48 PM
yeah it was ok,
The game is to be sold not to be told was garbage.
Even qith Dj quik production top dogg was just ok
Last meal i thought was pretty damn good
and i havent bough a snoop album since becase i see the singles here songs here and there and i cant take it.
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 06, 2006, 09:36:36 PM
yeah right, I like this CD better than "Doggstyle"

please tell me you're not serious
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Post by: WestCoasta on May 06, 2006, 09:38:16 PM
yeah right, I like this CD better than "Doggstyle"

please tell me you're not serious

yes son, I am


*although I just slightly prefer listening to that one more...
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on May 06, 2006, 09:45:38 PM
actually I think that the only reason to really enjoy the album is for the production and the features....because Snoop was really wack on it...Im not saying that the album was wack and stuff, because everything is right on it (although its not well mixed) the only wrong thing about this album is Snoop., knowing that his first album was a classic and one of the best Rap album in History people were expecting something as good as his debut, lyrically, and flow wise he's like sleeping, thats the only thing I hate about this album...Listen to Sixx Minute, The beat is OFF THE HOOK...but he messed it up with his flow!!...by the way I do not think Da Game is a bad album, Y'all just need to change the album title, and put No Limit Presents Instead of Snoop Dogg and u'll get a nice South Record
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Post by: Meho on May 07, 2006, 02:30:08 AM
The reply value of this album is zero and it sounds like it wasnt mastered and mixed at all.

Groupie is off the hook though  8)
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on May 07, 2006, 03:15:17 AM
The reply value of this album is zero and it sounds like it wasnt mastered and mixed at all.

Groupie is off the hook though 8)

groupie, that track wit tray dee forgot wat its called, and the wild west track

sorry i have jus got up and cant remember any names of tracks
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Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on May 07, 2006, 11:26:58 AM
I think expectationz were just too high cause most people were expectin' a Doggystyle 2 but even though Doggfather didn't reach classic status I think itz a very good album nevertheless still bump that from time to time!

Also keep in mind that this was a very turbulent period of time for Snoop as well as Death Row in general: Pac had just got killed, Snoop beat his murder case, Dre left, tha so called East vs West war... I also think Snoop felt a tremendous pressure to deliver a good album without Dre and he felt tha need to prove that tha beatz don't make him like he said himself on tha album...

Itz no Doggystyle but anyone with a bit of hip hop knowledge at that time knew not to expect something similar, I still think Daz could have done a better job though cause I was more dissapointed with his production on Tha Doggfather than Snoop'z lyrical skillz...

Still my fav cut has alwayz been tha title track, I just saw tha video for it last year didn't even know there was a vid for it!! :(

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Post by: doubletrouble™ on May 07, 2006, 04:32:36 PM
yeah right, I like this CD better than "Doggstyle"


 :laugh:
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Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on May 07, 2006, 04:37:39 PM
ya'll trippin IMO its snoops 2ns best cd...
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Post by: The Watcher on May 07, 2006, 04:55:14 PM
ya'll trippin IMO its snoops 2ns best cd...

word
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Post by: Sikotic™ on May 07, 2006, 05:17:03 PM
I still feel it was one of his better albums considering his days with No Limit and the albums after that.
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Post by: CanadActive on May 07, 2006, 07:14:56 PM
2001
Gold Rush
Tha Doggfather
Up Jump Da Boogie
and Sixxx "fucking" Minutes

Those tracks are classics imo

Snoop won't make 2 doggystyle... 

It's his second best album by far (for the beats, the feats and the FLOW)

Last Meal is also very good imo

Quit hating on one of the greatest west coast rapper...  Not all his albums are good as Doggystyle but damn, his a fucking good rapper who made somme fucking good songs
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Post by: Turf Hitta on May 08, 2006, 10:48:17 PM
i like it way better now than i did when it came out
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Post by: Okka on May 09, 2006, 01:56:14 AM
"Tha Doggfather" doesn't even come close to a classic, but some tracks are classic though, shit like "(O.J) Wake Up", "2001", "Downtown Assassins" & "Goldrush" are tracks that you can bump always, and never get tired of them  8)
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Post by: PLANT on May 09, 2006, 03:37:37 AM
Doggfather is dope.....The only thing they fucked up was the vocals.....Suge & DJ Pooh did a bad job executive producing/mixing that album....Snoops vocals should have been turned up on many tracks.....
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Post by: Digital Pimpin' on May 09, 2006, 04:19:13 AM
Groupie and Blueberry are both sick tracks.
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Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on May 09, 2006, 04:24:14 AM
DOGGFATHER IS A DAMN CLASSIC...Its not better then Doggystyle but its close to it!! damn DOWNTOWN ASSASSINS -CLASSIC!!
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Post by: Soulful on May 09, 2006, 09:31:00 AM
IMO Doggystyle n Doggfather are the only good snoop albums. Doggystyle is better but both are classics.

BTW yall trippin Sixx Minutes is dope!!
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Post by: 1980DRE on May 09, 2006, 10:00:41 AM
yeah right, I like this CD better than "Doggstyle"
you can't be serious :grumpy:
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Post by: Eihtball on May 09, 2006, 07:30:33 PM
I bought this album around the time it came out, even though I knew in advance Dre wouldn't be on it.  Despite what some of y'all have said, I actually didn't think Snoop's lyrics were wack...he'd tighted up his flow a bit from his "Doggystyle" days.  The problem I had was that the production was basically blah; nothing really wack (except that "Snoop Bounce" shit), but nothing really well-done, either.  I know some of y'all like Daz and Pooh, but keep in mind that this was the point where G-Funk was played out, so you would've been numb to it then...and the fact is, those cats weren't on Dre's level anyway.  I had low expectations so I wasn't too disappointed, but I still don't really bump "Tha Doggfather" much these days.

he even said in a interview that he wanted to get away from that hardcore rap.

I think that's kinda ironic, because "Tha Doggfather" is pretty much the only Snoop Dogg album I'd classify as "hardcore" rap.  Usually, Snoop's always been about that laid-back player/pimp shit (starting on "Doggystyle"), but his vocal tone and his delivery were far more confrontational and thuggish on "Tha Doggfather" than they would ever be on his later albums.  I also thought it was out-of-character for him, and I was glad that he got back to the player shit by the time he went to No Limit.

I still feel it was one of his better albums considering his days with No Limit and the albums after that.

Man, you crazy..."No Limit Top Dogg", "Tha Last Meal", and both of Tha Eastsidaz album are excellent, and most definitely better than "Tha Doggfather".