West Coast Connection Forum
Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Woodrow on May 18, 2006, 10:54:17 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/CezOFRniQO0
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Confirmed Idiots:
1.) 7 don't need to brag 'bout how muthafuckin' Active he iz
2.) Kassem
3.) virtuoso
4.) King Tech
Non Morons:
1.) J Bananas aka God Logic
I'm sure it'll be updated soon as more comments come in.
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That video delivered absolutely nothing constructive. It just dissed "conspiracy theorists" and picked the dumbest of them out, in order to make them look generally dumb. It also didnt take the pentagon incident into account. And how are conspiracy theories an insult to people who died? Last time I checked noone claims that it doesn't suck they died, but how does them dying prove or disprove anything when it comes to the question why they died?
Basically, this video didn't explain anything, it didnt disprove anything that is claimed in those alleged conspiracy theory videos. All it did was to put people who hold a different opinion into a bad light. Great work.
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the whole video was like fucking stupid ,fucking ---- ,and dissing people
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Hey this is all good let these videos keep coming its just exposing the people that post them as morons, you can't escape the facts no matter how many pathetic attempts are made to discredit those who dare believe the government could or would do this.
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good now that all the morons have responded, thats was a pretty good video i love that bullshit show. but it did anger me because of the kooky assholes like those interviewed actually post here. i hope to meet you guys one day so we can have a little talk before i punch you in you your fucking faces; little piss ons like you who got shunned in high school spend the rest of your lives making up excuses why reality isnt what it is, pathetically struggling to create a world where people like you are persecuted for your knowledge, not because the fact that youre simply weird little pricks.
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good now that all the morons have responded, thats was a pretty good video i love that bullshit show. but it did anger me because of the kooky assholes like those interviewed actually post here. i hope to meet you guys one day so we can have a little talk before i punch you in you your fucking faces; little piss ons like you who got shunned in high school spend the rest of your lives making up excuses why reality isnt what it is, pathetically struggling to create a world where people like you are persecuted for your knowledge, not because the fact that youre simply weird little pricks.
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yeah like you, and virtuoso.
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Here something to cheer you up cause I feel sorry for bringing you down: http://rapidshare.de/files/19997383/Outkast_-_The_Mighty_O.mp3
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sweet, im actually yet to hear this
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lol i just read virtuosos response. DARE TO BELIEVE! you should go into business crankin out tshirts
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That fire dood trying to explain how the buildings came down had no fuckin clue what he was talking about. This video is horrible. If you can find a video that answers all the un-answered questions that the Loose Change documentary brings up, then I will respect what they talking about. Other than that, take that dumb ass shit somewhere else. What kind of professor of that degree can sit there and talk like a high school kid against conspiracists? That bitch need 2 get hit.
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im not feelin the new outkast track, i prolly need to hear a cleaner version on a better system tho
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Englebert how are you gonna call someone a moron?
the nerve of this hoe
7 > Virtuoso >>>>>>Kassem >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>C Walker>>>>>>>>Woodro
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on some real shit, i feel sorry for losers like englebert. to live your life so sheltered and naive? to so strongly hold on to this image or idea of what the world is like? to be so incredibly ignorant?
fuck man, who the fuck is this guy to call people morons?
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
MORONS.
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Teller knows the truth but that fucker won't speak :laugh:
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andy milonakis and paul wall
https://www.youtube.com/v/YHYW6GLCcyQ&dpos=0
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
MORONS.
ahahahaha, youre actually quoting that article? i knew i shouldnt have put it past you.
englebert, youre a fuckin idiot. youre not convincing no body. youre on the wrong side of the argument, as usual.
keep smiling to yourself, convincing yourself we';re all morons
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
MORONS.
ahahahaha, youre actually quoting that article? i knew i shouldnt have put it past you.
englebert, youre a fuckin idiot. youre not convincing no body. youre on the wrong side of the argument, as usual.
keep smiling to yourself, convincing yourself we';re all morons
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html
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http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html
MORONS.
ahahahaha, youre actually quoting that article? i knew i shouldnt have put it past you.
englebert, youre a fuckin idiot. youre not convincing no body. youre on the wrong side of the argument, as usual.
keep smiling to yourself, convincing yourself we';re all morons
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Sep/16-241966.html
:) :D ;D
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Occam's razor
What’s more likely?
A.) There is an international conspiracy and cover-up involving thousands of people? OR
B.) Islamic Terrorists pulled off a successful and devastating attack?
If Bill Clinton couldn't keep getting a Blow Job a secret, what makes you think our government could pull this off?
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Occam's razor
What’s more likely?
A.) There is an international conspiracy and cover-up involving thousands of people? OR
B.) Islamic Terrorists pulled off a successful and devastating attack?
If Bill Clinton couldn't keep getting a Blow Job a secret, what makes you think our government could pull this off?
shut up man, stop fuckin embarassing yourself idiot. who here has time to explain common sense to you. believe what you wanna believe, keep dancing in your own lil world to your own lil tune. just dont come here calling us morons cuz we dont take you serious
lol @ successful and devastating attack
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lol you kill me, you obviously do not have an understanding of basic language i wasnt proclaiming that i or others are being brave i was simply saying that in the eyes of others they feel how dare you try and go against the official line. In fact it will probably take you a long time to actually comprehend where your basic slip occured so i will end it there i don't want to overwhelm your simple black and white mind.
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Though in a general sense bravery isnt needed when dealing with what and others like you basically are and that is ignorant dumb fools who see the world in such tunnel vision that anything that steps outside that perimeter will be castigated lol @ the threats btw. You ignore all of the points made in articles in films like loose change and can only cry "conspiraces" and kooks haha you keep at it though.
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i never saw loose change, the narrators voice was too annoying so i turned it off a minute in. it shouldve had more sex and tight music
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That fire dood trying to explain how the buildings came down had no fuckin clue what he was talking about. This video is horrible. If you can find a video that answers all the un-answered questions that the Loose Change documentary brings up, then I will respect what they talking about. Other than that, take that dumb ass shit somewhere else. What kind of professor of that degree can sit there and talk like a high school kid against conspiracists? That bitch need 2 get hit.
you know that was shit FICTION right? check my reply to the origional thread where loose change was posted
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Teller knows the truth but that fucker won't speak :laugh:
LMAO
Bullshit = most educational show on TV. I got their DVD's.
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somebody needs to get the best of bullshit on youtube links or somethin (kain) and spread the knowledge....
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They got them all over google video
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Woodrow is right people...
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Hey this is all good let these videos keep coming its just exposing the people that post them as morons, you can't escape the facts no matter how many pathetic attempts are made to discredit those who dare believe the government could or would do this.
lol the governemt can just do anything huh ?
IF the U.S destroyed the twin towers, only a hand-full of people would know about it. and bush wouldnt be one of those people.
dont you realise the more people that know, there is a greater chance of a snitch ?
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Occam's razor
What’s more likely?
A.) There is an international conspiracy and cover-up involving thousands of people? OR
B.) Islamic Terrorists pulled off a successful and devastating attack?
If Bill Clinton couldn't keep getting a Blow Job a secret, what makes you think our government could pull this off?
it is usually the easiest explanation that is correct.
FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength--and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."
"Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
"The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."
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Thanks Woodrow; Great video, loved it. Ingore the idiots who posted above.
George Bush: Idiot who can't even talk straight. Also a mastermind who killed 2800 people in a faked attack on the country, then invaded three countries in a plot to push oil prices up all over the world.
LOL fucking children. It is truly as simple as this: Eventually; we all grow up and turn republican.
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Both sides can make convincing stories.
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If you're a fucking idiot.
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It's the hard headed people I don't like. It's cool to believe whatever you wanna believe happened on 9/11. But don't disrespect anyone in the process.
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It's the hard headed people I don't like. It's cool to believe whatever you wanna believe happened on 9/11. But don't disrespect anyone in the process.
it's cool to believe anything ? nah man.. that aint right..
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It's the hard headed people I don't like. It's cool to believe whatever you wanna believe happened on 9/11. But don't disrespect anyone in the process.
it's cool to believe anything ? nah man.. that aint right..
why not? how can one man tell another what to believe? all anyone can do is present the 'facts' and leave it up to the individual to make his own decision. Whatever that is, is up to you.
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why not? how can one man tell another what to believe? all anyone can do is present the 'facts' and leave it up to the individual to make his own decision. Whatever that is, is up to you.
Don't worry about it dude, you're just on a whole nother level mentally above some of these cats. I know where you're coming from.
The fact of the matter is, both sides make valid point and both have flaws in their arguments. Failure to understand this exposes their flawed logic. And if you're gonna choose a stance based on political affiliation....well, some of us grew out of that in elementary school.
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It's the hard headed people I don't like. It's cool to believe whatever you wanna believe happened on 9/11. But don't disrespect anyone in the process.
it's cool to believe anything ? nah man.. that aint right..
why not? how can one man tell another what to believe? all anyone can do is present the 'facts' and leave it up to the individual to make his own decision. Whatever that is, is up to you.
ok, so if you fall down some stairs, and someone tells you, no you didnt fall down some stairs, when you damn well know you did... how would that make you feel ?
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I'm not bullshitting I can call up someone right now who's child niece got killed on one of those planes. one of you smug motherfuckers can ask her about it being fake, where that little girls at...
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It's the hard headed people I don't like. It's cool to believe whatever you wanna believe happened on 9/11. But don't disrespect anyone in the process.
it's cool to believe anything ? nah man.. that aint right..
why not? how can one man tell another what to believe? all anyone can do is present the 'facts' and leave it up to the individual to make his own decision. Whatever that is, is up to you.
ok, so if you fall down some stairs, and someone tells you, no you didnt fall down some stairs, when you damn well know you did... how would that make you feel ?
I don't think you understand what I'm saying
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im not suggesting i know exactly what happened on that day
but i do know what didnt happen
the official us line
ill bet my life there was american compliance in this, if u cant see this u either too dumb to or dont want to confront this
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I'm not bullshitting I can call up someone right now who's child niece got killed on one of those planes. one of you smug motherfuckers can ask her about it being fake, where that little girls at...
Again, I find it unfair to protray people who don't buy the official story as savages because good, innocent people died in the process. Only weird ppl say they all didnt really die and live secretly in hawaii, that's why exactly those suckas were featured in that video.
About the anti-conspiracy shit: I only skimmed through it, since it was a helluva long text, but I still found things that don't add up fast. Like, why is there such a neat little whole in the pentagon - they say it's because one wing hit the ground before it hit the pentagon. Great, I don't see how anything hit the ground there, the lawn is flawless. Next, how come there is exactly the same neat round hole way deeper into the pentagon? Tough plane, isnt it? Too bad nothing of it remained LOL. Oh I forgot, it melted!! Weird thing though, things that melt way easier didnt so. Hmmmm. And what about that hidden shit they took out under that blue plastic shit? They prolly did it like this cause they got nothing to hide, I agree.
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let's resort to common sense and logic, keep this in mind, to make this conspiracy work, the intelligence required to pull off such a mission, would be second to none.
lets think about the pentagon in terms of risk involved within the conspiracy.
lets say for a minute, that the U.S defense force decided to bomb the pentagon.
how many people in the area would see the missile, and mistake it for a plane ? none. so why were there eye-witness reports of a PLANE hitting the pentagon ?
why were there reports of missiles/helicopters/fighter jets/planes ? because people are fucking retarded when they panic. not all the eye-witnesses are experts, and most of them wouldnt have even seen the explosion, or the plane, because not everyone would have their eyes peeled at the skies and the pentagon.
also, why would the U.S need to bomb the pentagon ? isnt taking 2 great land-marks, and killing thousands of innocent civilians enough to wage war ?
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Just to clarify, I don't think I have all the answers to that, LOL. 9/11 is bigger than WCC.
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Bush and his admistration are too dumb to mastermind such a conspiracy. If we cant do a good job in Iraq or any other area, why would 9/11 be any easier?
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I always use firefighters & comedians for my scientific investigation...you should post video of what Physicist and Structural Engineers think about 9/11 World Trade Center collapse. Firefighters are the clowns that went into the building thinking it would never come down...and they weren't saving lives, they only hampered the evacuation process. 2 Firefighter and 2 wack comedians...wow you changed my way of thinking.
Virtuoso and 7 could have come up with better points then those dudes they interviewed.
lol why didn't they interview Alex Jones ;D
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That truly is a nonsensical argument, they don't have the brains to pull it off? well they had the brains to pull off the sham which led to the the vietnam war, they still refuse even to this very day to release all documents relating to pearl harbour. Of course they can pull it off, is it risky? yes but even to this day i spoke to a friend yesterday and he didnt even know about building 7 here in the UK it never got mentioned. That shows you how complicit the media have been about keeping things under wraps. As for that disgusting comment about telling a bereaved family that this was a lie, well you dumbass, their are families whose sons and daughters who died in 9/11 who feel exactly the opposite way. However I am glad that the person who I think doesnt buy that the american government could have been involved in this did acknowledge though that they were interviewing complete retards in a bid to then say well all people who don't the governments line are morons to lol, its pathetically transparent.
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Bush and his admistration are too dumb to mastermind such a conspiracy. If we cant do a good job in Iraq or any other area, why would 9/11 be any easier?
I think the people who make the psychological mastermoves are dudes we never see on TV
Bush, Condi, Cheney, Rumsfeld.. are just the faces... like the Backstreet Boys were the faces... the real deal is the producers and ghostwriters noone knows the name of 8)
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Bush and his admistration are too dumb to mastermind such a conspiracy. If we cant do a good job in Iraq or any other area, why would 9/11 be any easier?
I think the people who make the psychological mastermoves are dudes we never see on TV
Bush, Condi, Cheney, Rumsfeld.. are just the faces... like the Backstreet Boys were the faces... the real deal is the producers and ghostwriters noone knows the name of 8)
LOL..okay
The truth all boils down to common sense...
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you idiot since u like talkin about common sense
its not like the us did that shit themselves
"al qaeda" might have done it, but who is al qaeda? its cia homie.
15 dumb fuck arabs, part of an organization originally trained and formed by the CIA, long infiltrated by Saudi/Pakistani/Egyptian and American intelligence, with frozen assets, hijacked planes and flew them into their locations with out the US 60billion dollars a year intelligence institutions not knowing a thing about it
conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
my common sense is sayin machiavelli is a dunce
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^^ makes sense
but really none of us knows for sure, might as well leave it alone
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Al Queda were also used to infiltrate the KLA, then in turn they carried out atrocities leading to reprisals from serbian troops as soon as that happened the whole thing was played up as a mass genocide against albanians. Don't take my word for it refer to the post i put up "OSAMAGATE" where a canadian professor oF economics at Ottawa University addresses this, and he refers to the intelligence own documents to prove this is so. As for what tech said he is right and that is just the brief outline but even that is damning
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they still refuse even to this very day to release all documents relating to pearl harbour.
LMAO you all are startin to kill me... so now you will start saying they let pearl harbour happen so they could nuke japan ::)
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conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
conveniently LMFAO, what the fuck would you expect them to do ? nothing ?
lol conveniently..
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conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
conveniently LMFAO, what the fuck would you expect them to do ? nothing ?
lol conveniently..
conviniently bin laden used to work for the cia. conviniently his family and bushes does business. conviniently america ignores osama. conviniently he emerges, continues being ignored. conviniently allowed to settle in afghanistan. conviniently oil pipeline plans emerge. conviniently taliban say no. conviniently 9/11 happens. conviniently so much fuckery has gone down with that incident, dont even wanna start. conviniently america now threatens afghanistan. (this is done while, conviniently, the taliban were willing to negotiate and conviniently cia agents visited osama in dubai in 2001 or 2003 i believe) conviniently usa invades iraq. conviniently threat of war constantly held over sheep heads. conviniently increased govt powers. conviniently america being spied on.
come on man
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^^ makes sense
but really none of us knows for sure, might as well leave it alone
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conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
conveniently LMFAO, what the fuck would you expect them to do ? nothing ?
lol conveniently..
conviniently bin laden used to work for the cia. conviniently his family and bushes does business. conviniently america ignores osama. conviniently he emerges, continues being ignored. conviniently allowed to settle in afghanistan. conviniently oil pipeline plans emerge. conviniently taliban say no. conviniently 9/11 happens. conviniently so much fuckery has gone down with that incident, dont even wanna start. conviniently america now threatens afghanistan. (this is done while, conviniently, the taliban were willing to negotiate and conviniently cia agents visited osama in dubai in 2001 or 2003 i believe) conviniently usa invades iraq. conviniently threat of war constantly held over sheep heads. conviniently increased govt powers. conviniently america being spied on.
come on man
I'm not usually big on spelling, typos happen, but if you are going to use "conveniently" that many times in one post you should consider spelling it correctly.
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Actually you are killing me chief, your ignorance is blinding, or perhaps you dont want to see it. Stating that the intelligence agencies had prior knowledge of Pearl Harbour is no revelation, thus I am further staggered tht this is totally out of the blue for you. Next time you will be telling is the USS Liberty was never attacked by israel. You dismiss what you don't want to see, in actual fact you are a depiction of the tape of character that the video was trying to mock, talk about irony.
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conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
conveniently LMFAO, what the fuck would you expect them to do ? nothing ?
lol conveniently..
conviniently bin laden used to work for the cia. conviniently his family and bushes does business. conviniently america ignores osama. conviniently he emerges, continues being ignored. conviniently allowed to settle in afghanistan. conviniently oil pipeline plans emerge. conviniently taliban say no. conviniently 9/11 happens. conviniently so much fuckery has gone down with that incident, dont even wanna start. conviniently america now threatens afghanistan. (this is done while, conviniently, the taliban were willing to negotiate and conviniently cia agents visited osama in dubai in 2001 or 2003 i believe) conviniently usa invades iraq. conviniently threat of war constantly held over sheep heads. conviniently increased govt powers. conviniently america being spied on.
come on man
yeah it can be looked at in that respect. i guess it depends oh who's side youre on. i'm not on bush's side, because i dont agree with the war. but i do agree with the western way of life.
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you idiot since u like talkin about common sense
its not like the us did that shit themselves
"al qaeda" might have done it, but who is al qaeda? its cia homie.
15 dumb fuck arabs, part of an organization originally trained and formed by the CIA, long infiltrated by Saudi/Pakistani/Egyptian and American intelligence, with frozen assets, hijacked planes and flew them into their locations with out the US 60billion dollars a year intelligence institutions not knowing a thing about it
conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
LOL, Sherlock Holmes just cracked the case.
In all seriousness, Woodrow is right. People who believe all these conspiracy theories only make themselves look dumb. They are just a bunch of weirdos who are laughed at by society . My favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory was days after the attacks when Arab media reported that 4,000 Jews that worked at the World Trade Center stayed home that day. Of course idiots on this very message board probably still believe that.
Come on guys, just stop the nonsense.
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surely common sense answers this one Building 7 collapses and on national television silverstein said we were told to pull building 7. Buiulding 7 collapses in an identical fashion to the other buildings and was not hit by anything, building 7 was further away from the towers than many of the other buildings.
Please explain to me that despite this silverstein then ignores all questions for a very long time regarding his comments until he tells the media that he meant pulling the firefighters from building 7 even though fema reports said they were not in building 7?.
Let me just repeat this guys I am not attacking people who dont want to believe this but start asking yourself why questions this remain completely unanswered and instead the responses you get are attacking people instead of responding to the question.
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surely common sense answers this one Building 7 collapses and on national television silverstein said we were told to pull building 7. Buiulding 7 collapses in an identical fashion to the other buildings and was not hit by anything, building 7 was further away from the towers than many of the other buildings.
Please explain to me that despite this silverstein then ignores all questions for a very long time regarding his comments until he tells the media that he meant pulling the firefighters from building 7 even though fema reports said they were not in building 7?.
Let me just repeat this guys I am not attacking people who dont want to believe this but start asking yourself why questions this remain completely unanswered and instead the responses you get are attacking people instead of responding to the question.
read the report on how WTC7 fell to the ground. how do you think the C.I.A could get away with demolishing a building ? what evidence would it destroy ?
their intepretation of how WTC7 fell makes alot more sense than the conspiracy video.
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surely common sense answers this one Building 7 collapses and on national television silverstein said we were told to pull building 7. Buiulding 7 collapses in an identical fashion to the other buildings and was not hit by anything, building 7 was further away from the towers than many of the other buildings.
Please explain to me that despite this silverstein then ignores all questions for a very long time regarding his comments until he tells the media that he meant pulling the firefighters from building 7 even though fema reports said they were not in building 7?.
Let me just repeat this guys I am not attacking people who dont want to believe this but start asking yourself why questions this remain completely unanswered and instead the responses you get are attacking people instead of responding to the question.
read the report on how WTC7 fell to the ground. how do you think the C.I.A could get away with demolishing a building ? what evidence would it destroy ?
their intepretation of how WTC7 fell makes alot more sense than the conspiracy video.
Anybody got a link to the report?
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I can not find the link but yes I do know what they concluded. They said falling debris compromised the integrity of the building and yet the Hilton and all other buildings which were much closer to the towers remain unscathed. Also I will repeat the question, why did Silverstein say on national tv that they were told to pull building 7?.
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I can not find the link but yes I do know what they concluded. They said falling debris compromised the integrity of the building and yet the Hilton and all other buildings which were much closer to the towers remain unscathed. Also I will repeat the question, why did Silverstein say on national tv that they were told to pull building 7?.
so are all buildings built the same way this day in age ?
who the fuck is silverstein ? and who told him to pull building 7 ? and what is that suppose to mean ?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=5&c=y
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Silverstein is the owner of the world trade centre
There is the audio link http://www.thewebfairy.com/killtown/audio/silverstein_pullit.mp3
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where was that quote taken from ?
pulling it does not mean blowing the building up to me. maybe it meant pull the fire-fighters out, they cant contain the fire, so get them out ?
and if he had anything to do with demolishing the building, do you think he would nationally snitch on himself that openly ? lets take it back to logic.
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conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
conveniently LMFAO, what the fuck would you expect them to do ? nothing ?
lol conveniently..
conviniently bin laden used to work for the cia. conviniently his family and bushes does business. conviniently america ignores osama. conviniently he emerges, continues being ignored. conviniently allowed to settle in afghanistan. conviniently oil pipeline plans emerge. conviniently taliban say no. conviniently 9/11 happens. conviniently so much fuckery has gone down with that incident, dont even wanna start. conviniently america now threatens afghanistan. (this is done while, conviniently, the taliban were willing to negotiate and conviniently cia agents visited osama in dubai in 2001 or 2003 i believe) conviniently usa invades iraq. conviniently threat of war constantly held over sheep heads. conviniently increased govt powers. conviniently america being spied on.
come on man
why isnt it possible, that its the terrorists fault of this happening ?
maybe the U.S was just waiting for an opportunity like this to arise so they could grab the world by the balls... all this tells me is it's the islamic terrorists fault for picking a fight with a power, they simply cant win against. those terrorists brought it on themselves and the people around them, because an event such as 9/11, and you cant just let that shit slide, not if you have an army that will fuck you up for it...
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It was taken from a national tv programme if you watch the alex jones film i put up it shows the footage of it also
How can he mean the firemen, when the Fema reports said they were not in the building
Pull it is a demolition term
Again if it comes down to logic then logic would dictate that the buildings sited right next to the towers would have been badly damaged and yet they were not.
If this was not a conspiracy of silence then why didnt you know about it before now and why is it that even now most people in europe do not even know about building 7.
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lmfao @ this.
See, this is why I never discuss with conspiracy theorists. ::)
Now anywas, NOBODY hear can know what happened on the 9/11. Put when you make extraordinary claims, you need extraordinary proof, and I have not seen ANYTHING, from Loose change or whatever that makes me sure that the Gov't pulled off 9/11. There's a lot of questions I have after watching Loose change, but the most important question is: HOW THE HELL CAN I TRUST THAT GUYS INFO WHEN A LOT OF IS WRONG AND IS PROVEN WRONG?
Two important things to point out with Loose change(there's more, but two first flaws that come to mind)
-Why the hell would Loose Change claim that 12 of the hijackers has been found, living and well, after 9/11 when they haven't? (The persons Loose Change refers to are people who happens to have the same name, but are not the same person, stuff that has been proved by credible sources). How can I trust a documentary when they even make this wrong?
-This Bimbach dude said that the plane didn't have any windows neither a logo, when he saw it, 2 miles a way. Have you ever seen a plane that's 2 miles away???
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Sorry but you are twisting things, it was the BBC who reported that some of the hijackers had been found alive and well as well as a few other english newspapers whose names escape me and as far as "never discussing with conspiracy theorists" you are acting as if these types of things havent been done before again do you even know about the USS LIberty? and i read part of the so called debunking of loose change the person writing it actually had the nerve to say so what has previous events got to do with this? Is her serious, history is repeating itself again and again, you make a valid point about being 2 miles away though. I do not have all of the answers but it angers me when people like you can't even accept that there have been many lies told by the government regarding september 11.
Also instead of responding with zzzz to the alex jones film watch it and then make your mind up, personally i think that is a much better documentary than loose change.
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Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.
The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.
Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September.
His photograph was released, and has since appeared in newspapers and on television around the world.
Hijacking suspects
Flight 175: Marwan Al-Shehhi, Fayez Ahmed, Mohald Alshehri, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi
Flight 11: Waleed M Alshehri, Wail Alshehri, Mohamed Atta, Abdulaziz Alomari and Satam Al Suqami
Flight 77: Khalid Al-Midhar, Majed Moqed, Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Hani Hanjour
Flight 93: Ahmed Alhaznawi, Ahmed Alnami, Ziad Jarrahi and Saeed Alghamdi
Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco.
He told journalists there that he had nothing to do with the attacks on New York and Washington, and had been in Morocco when they happened. He has contacted both the Saudi and American authorities, according to Saudi press reports.
He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach in the United States, and is indeed the same Waleed Al Shehri to whom the FBI has been referring.
But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco.
Mistaken identity
Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports.
Abdelaziz Al Omari
Abdelaziz Al Omari 'lost his passport in Denver'
He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver.
Another man with exactly the same name surfaced on the pages of the English-language Arab News.
The second Abdulaziz Al Omari is a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines, the report says.
Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi.
Khalid Al-Midhar
Khalid Al-Midhar may also be alive
He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.
And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.
FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged on Thursday that the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
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wow , i just wasted 9 mins of my life watching that bullshit.
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It was taken from a national tv programme if you watch the alex jones film i put up it shows the footage of it also
How can he mean the firemen, when the Fema reports said they were not in the building
Pull it is a demolition term
Again if it comes down to logic then logic would dictate that the buildings sited right next to the towers would have been badly damaged and yet they were not.
If this was not a conspiracy of silence then why didnt you know about it before now and why is it that even now most people in europe do not even know about building 7.
i always knew about WTC7. and you didnt read the report on WHY it collapsed.
if he did order it to be demolished, WHY DID HE DO IT ON NATIONAL TV ? are you insane ? the greatest conspiracy the world has ever seen, and the truth is right there on national tv.
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if you knew about it then why did you ask who silverstein was, you werent even aware of what he said and you say there isnt a conspiracy of silence, 2 things there either you dont read or the papers werent publicising it much. On the second point if what he says is harmless then why does the explanation for his comments make no sense. There were no firefighters in that building thats from Fema themelves.
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^ they rpobably did show it, but i didnt pay attention, because who gives a shit what he said ?
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I do not have all of the answers but it angers me when people like you can't even accept that there have been many lies told by the government regarding september 11.
THIS is what I meant by never discussing with conspiracy theorists(oh well, you got a discussion started with me anyways :)
I've NEVER said that I , quote "can't even accept that there have been many lies told by the government regarding september 11."Where the hell do you got that I can't accept it from?? Find me a quote of myself where I say this! I fully understand that the truth might not be the one that's in the media, I really do, the only thing I wanted to point out was that Loose Change or whatever it's called is definatly not 100% credible, hence people should be more aware of it. IF i ever have any time I might watch this other documentary, but honestly, I'm tired of hearing about 9/11. It's tragic and all, and my deepest condolences to those who lost their loved ones, but me, I'm not even american so I couldn't give a fuck less anymore. I just had to drop some thoughts here when I saw it was still a hot topic. But when I log off, I don't think more about it, and let the victims rest in peace. It's not like whatever happened, I(or anyone else) can do anything about. But my all means, if you feel this gives you a purpose with life or whatnot, investigate it or whatever.
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no one knows the truth for 100%,
but there is a billion times greater possibility that the US directly/indirectly allowed 9/11 to occur rather than simply al qaeda independently doing this
do u understand how long it would take to plan something like this?
there is ONE thing that is 100% certain. there is no way in fukkin hell the US DIDNT know about it. ill bet my life on that.
and if they knew it was going down, and allowed it to happen, even if they werent involved, they are responsible
the day 9/11 went down...i knew that shit was funny style
you guys will figure it out in 3-4 years
c walker will die in his NYPD hat
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you idiot since u like talkin about common sense
its not like the us did that shit themselves
"al qaeda" might have done it, but who is al qaeda? its cia homie.
15 dumb fuck arabs, part of an organization originally trained and formed by the CIA, long infiltrated by Saudi/Pakistani/Egyptian and American intelligence, with frozen assets, hijacked planes and flew them into their locations with out the US 60billion dollars a year intelligence institutions not knowing a thing about it
conviniently afterwards the country is up in arms, 2 countries have been invaded, restrictions on civil rights etc etc
LOL, Sherlock Holmes just cracked the case.
In all seriousness, Woodrow is right. People who believe all these conspiracy theories only make themselves look dumb. They are just a bunch of weirdos who are laughed at by society . My favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory was days after the attacks when Arab media reported that 4,000 Jews that worked at the World Trade Center stayed home that day. Of course idiots on this very message board probably still believe that.
Come on guys, just stop the nonsense.
hurry and arm yourself polack. those scary arabs are a comin.....
im out like the cavs
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no one knows the truth for 100%,
but there is a billion times greater possibility that the US directly/indirectly allowed 9/11 to occur rather than simply al qaeda independently doing this
do u understand how long it would take to plan something like this?
there is ONE thing that is 100% certain. there is no way in fukkin hell the US DIDNT know about it. ill bet my life on that.
and if they knew it was going down, and allowed it to happen, even if they werent involved, they are responsible
the day 9/11 went down...i knew that shit was funny style
you guys will figure it out in 3-4 years
c walker will die in his NYPD hat
i think that if more was done, it could have been prevented, but this isn't new, the govt. has been openly saying this from the start... the question is how much they knew..
and ofcourse you thought it was funny style, goto blame the U.S somehow ;)