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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Suffice on June 25, 2006, 03:25:46 PM
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I guess being a diplomat ain't guaranteeing safety for shit
from CNN.com
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A group linked to al Qaeda said it has killed four Russian diplomats it had held hostage, according to a statement and video on a Web site Sunday.
The group -- the Mujahedeen Shura Council -- said it had beheaded three of the men and shot one to death.
A video also posted on the Web site appeared to show one of the men being beheaded, another man already beheaded and a third man being shot in the head. The fourth man did not appear in the video.
Russian officials were trying to verify the development.
The same group posted a statement last Monday demanding Moscow withdraw its troops from Chechnya and "release all our brothers and sisters" from prison within 48 hours.
In the statement last week, the group added, "God enabled the lions of unification to capture four Russian diplomats in Iraq and kill a fifth," alluding to an attack June 3, when a car belonging to the Russian Embassy in Iraq came under fire.
Embassy official Vitaly Titov was killed in the attack, and diplomats Fyodor Zaitsev, Rinat Agliuglin, Anatoly Smirnov and Oleg Fedoseyev were kidnapped.
Their claims could not be verified, but the Web site has been used by insurgent groups in the past to post messages.
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These barbaric acts are just to much to stomach, what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
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what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
something u would never understand
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what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
something u would never understand
No there is nothing that anyone can tell me that justifies a barbaric act like that, not cause I dont understand it because nothing can justify something like that.
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These barbaric acts are just to much to stomach, what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
Islam.
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I wouldn't be in or around Iraq that's for sure :whistle:
I don't blame Iraqis for killing spies, opportunist, traitors and invaders.
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These barbaric acts are just to much to stomach, what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
Islam.
See? That's what I always expect to hear from this faggot.
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See? That's what I always expect to hear from this faggot.
What is your explanation for the beheadings of these Russians?
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See? That's what I always expect to hear from this faggot.
What is your explanation for the beheadings of these Russians?
That they are fucked up people and would be fucked up regardless of whether they were Muslim or Christian.
What is your explanation for Timothy McVeigh blowing up the Alfred P. Murray building? Christianity?
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See? That's what I always expect to hear from this faggot.
What is your explanation for the beheadings of these Russians?
That they are fucked up people and would be fucked up regardless of whether they were Muslim or Christian.
What is your explanation for Timothy McVeigh blowing up the Alfred P. Murray building? Christianity?
yes
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what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
something u would never understand
haha ur such a tough dude
"shit happens dogg, shit is dangerous homie, you'll never understand bro, shit is deep" >:(
WAAA I know people from afghanistan WAAAA :'(
so u against Russians now u faggot?
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what the fuck prompts someone to cut off someone's head in such a gruesome fashion, disgusting.
something u would never understand
haha ur such a tough dude
"shit happens dogg, shit is dangerous homie, you'll never understand bro, shit is deep" >:(
WAAA I know people from afghanistan WAAAA :'(
so u against Russians now u faggot?
You talk like you have a dick in your mouth. And you post like you have a dick in your hand. So go finish what you were doing, and come back and put together a coherent post.
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man I can't stress enough how lame u are, you're not funny, relax on the american humor for the moment
"something you'll never understand" --- what a joke! :-X
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man I can't stress enough how lame u are, you're not funny, relax on the american humor for the moment
"something you'll never understand" --- what a joke! :-X
listen man, every post i make regarding you hurts me. its time i couldve spent doing something more productive, like staring at the wall. youre a fuckin no body. and you know nothing. and youre surrounded by a couple other idiots just as retarded as yourself throwing rocks at the throne from a distance.
youre not on my level, go back to what u were doing. slutty ass hoe, keep walkin by looking skanky begging for attention
i wanna make sure u get this thru ur head. u dont know nothing. this is a political forum. u dont know politics. end of story. ure like a random fuckin bum on Smack DVD poppin off at the lip.
<---- go thaaaat way
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I don't know nothing?
apparently cutting off heads is understandable cuz us slob americans "don't understand" barbarians
save us ur shit buddy, go fuckin cry to ur mom about the incidents in your life, the oppressed people you know
cuz that'll make all the wrong right YA!
hahaha "throwing rocks at the throne"
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This is the chaos that has been created thanks to these criminal western governments who decided to blow the shit out of a few hundred thousand iraqis in the name of controlling the oilfields. In the process by toppling saddam they have created a mass wave of lawlessness and anarchy. The point of this thread shouldnt be look at these savages are doing, it should be look at what these governments have turned these countries into.
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This is the chaos that has been created thanks to these criminal western governments who decided to blow the shit out of a few hundred thousand iraqis in the name of controlling the oilfields. In the process by toppling saddam they have created a mass wave of lawlessness and anarchy. The point of this thread shouldnt be look at these savages are doing, it should be look at what these governments have turned these countries into.
I disagree there is nothing anyone can say to justify these barbaric acts against these INNOCENT people. The people that got beheaded are completely innocent so there is nothing at all to justify what horrible pain and anguish these 4 people went through.
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I never said it was justifiable but you have to ask yourself if perhaps these diplomats were spies, after all its nothing out of the ordinary for these types of people to be used in this way, of course that is just me speculating but the other thing is, is it any worse than the types of so called punishment beatings which the army report has documented at abu ghraib and guantanamo bay which include drilling kneecaps. I find it astounding that these are largely ignored by the media and the ignorant public seems to forget so quickly. However nowhere in my last post did i say it was justifiable i said this is what happens when you blow the shit out of a country and overthrow its government, again its accepted by even the most ardent of war hawks particularly in Britain that things are worse there since the overthrow of saddam because he maintained a degree of control and there certainly wasnt this chaos that now ensues.
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I never said it was justifiable but you have to ask yourself if perhaps these diplomats were spies, after all its nothing out of the ordinary for these types of people to be used in this way, of course that is just me speculating but the other thing is, is it any worse than the types of so called punishment beatings which the army report has documented at abu ghraib and guantanamo bay which include drilling kneecaps. I find it astounding that these are largely ignored by the media and the ignorant public seems to forget so quickly. However nowhere in my last post did i say it was justifiable i said this is what happens when you blow the shit out of a country and overthrow its government, again its accepted by even the most ardent of war hawks particularly in Britain that things are worse there since the overthrow of saddam because he maintained a degree of control and there certainly wasnt this chaos that now ensues.
I see what your saying to a certain extent. And yes the torture at abu ghraib is uncalled for but at least its involving people that kill other people, the people that got beheaded are innocent as their is no proof that the were spies. And yes their is a ton of chaos in Iraq iright now but it was still terrible under Saddam's reign he tortured hus own people in ways we can never imagine.
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You dont know the circumstances of people that were held at abu ghraib and neither do I but I do know that 90% of those being tortured and tormented have never been charged with anything, there is no at least about it. If you read into the circumstances of these people you would find out that most are basically simple village folk who were rounded up by the northern alliance and sold to the u.s military for $10,000 per person. Like I said I find it a very bizarre world where on the one hand people are so quick to cry evil muslims and then simultaneously defend downplay or just forget about the evils inflicted upon them in these jails and torture camps. Yes saddam's regime tortured their own people and it continues now only this time its the americans doing it.
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You dont know the circumstances of people that were held at abu ghraib and neither do I but I do know that 90% of those being tortured and tormented have never been charged with anything, there is no at least about it. If you read into the circumstances of these people you would find out that most are basically simple village folk who were rounded up by the northern alliance and sold to the u.s military for $10,000 per person. Like I said I find it a very bizarre world where on the one hand people are so quick to cry evil muslims and then simultaneously defend downplay or just forget about the evils inflicted upon them in these jails and torture camps. Yes saddam's regime tortured their own people and it continues now only this time its the americans doing it.
Well let me tell you something, if some of the people in abu ghraib that got tortured were completely innocent then we should be absolutely ashamed of ourselves I agree with you completely.
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My mistake that was meant to say 90% of those at guantanamo bay have never been charged with anything, not that it affects the point i was making of course
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Innocent people have also been killed in Iraq by americans. This is war. Its not right but thats a part of war.
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You dont know the circumstances of people that were held at abu ghraib and neither do I but I do know that 90% of those being tortured and tormented have never been charged with anything, there is no at least about it. If you read into the circumstances of these people you would find out that most are basically simple village folk who were rounded up by the northern alliance and sold to the u.s military for $10,000 per person. Like I said I find it a very bizarre world where on the one hand people are so quick to cry evil muslims and then simultaneously defend downplay or just forget about the evils inflicted upon them in these jails and torture camps. Yes saddam's regime tortured their own people and it continues now only this time its the americans doing it.
Big whoop, the people in Abu Grahab had naked photographs of them taken and had dogs scaring them. Most college fraternity initiations are worse than that. That is no comparison to being beheaded.
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You dont know the circumstances of people that were held at abu ghraib and neither do I but I do know that 90% of those being tortured and tormented have never been charged with anything, there is no at least about it. If you read into the circumstances of these people you would find out that most are basically simple village folk who were rounded up by the northern alliance and sold to the u.s military for $10,000 per person. Like I said I find it a very bizarre world where on the one hand people are so quick to cry evil muslims and then simultaneously defend downplay or just forget about the evils inflicted upon them in these jails and torture camps. Yes saddam's regime tortured their own people and it continues now only this time its the americans doing it.
Big whoop, the people in Abu Grahab had naked photographs of them taken and had dogs scaring them. Most college fraternity initiations are worse than that. That is no comparison to being beheaded.
Very true. imo nothing compares with being beheaded, but I thought there were cases of brutal torture at Abu Grahab
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You dont know the circumstances of people that were held at abu ghraib and neither do I but I do know that 90% of those being tortured and tormented have never been charged with anything, there is no at least about it. If you read into the circumstances of these people you would find out that most are basically simple village folk who were rounded up by the northern alliance and sold to the u.s military for $10,000 per person. Like I said I find it a very bizarre world where on the one hand people are so quick to cry evil muslims and then simultaneously defend downplay or just forget about the evils inflicted upon them in these jails and torture camps. Yes saddam's regime tortured their own people and it continues now only this time its the americans doing it.
Big whoop, the people in Abu Grahab had naked photographs of them taken and had dogs scaring them. Most college fraternity initiations are worse than that. That is no comparison to being beheaded.
Very true. imo nothing compares with being beheaded, but I thought there were cases of brutal torture at Abu Grahab
There were. Real Polack is just an idiot.
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This is the chaos that has been created thanks to these criminal western governments who decided to blow the shit out of a few hundred thousand iraqis in the name of controlling the oilfields. In the process by toppling saddam they have created a mass wave of lawlessness and anarchy. The point of this thread shouldnt be look at these savages are doing, it should be look at what these governments have turned these countries into.
I disagree there is nothing anyone can say to justify these barbaric acts against these INNOCENT people. The people that got beheaded are completely innocent so there is nothing at all to justify what horrible pain and anguish these 4 people went through.
shit for brains,
no one is sayin anything about justifying this shit, u monkey.
u first said that u didnt understand how someone can do this,
i told u , u never would
and i was right
its not about justification. people who understand the history of the situation and the backround UNDERSTAND why shit like this happens. were not seeking to JUSTIFY it , we simply UNDERSTAND why something like this could have happened.
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This is the chaos that has been created thanks to these criminal western governments who decided to blow the shit out of a few hundred thousand iraqis in the name of controlling the oilfields. In the process by toppling saddam they have created a mass wave of lawlessness and anarchy. The point of this thread shouldnt be look at these savages are doing, it should be look at what these governments have turned these countries into.
I disagree there is nothing anyone can say to justify these barbaric acts against these INNOCENT people. The people that got beheaded are completely innocent so there is nothing at all to justify what horrible pain and anguish these 4 people went through.
shit for brains,
no one is sayin anything about justifying this shit, u monkey.
u first said that u didnt understand how someone can do this,
i told u , u never would
and i was right
its not about justification. people who understand the history of the situation and the backround UNDERSTAND why shit like this happens. were not seeking to JUSTIFY it , we simply UNDERSTAND why something like this could have happened.
No doggie theres no understanding why something like this could happen theres no excuse possible you chump. Now go get yo Wet Wipes! Dipset Bitch!
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that's gotta be the worst way to die... barbarians, scum of the earth
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Real american is either incredibly stupid or incredible warped, the army report details kneecaps being drilled, dogs attacking the prisoners, detainees being tied onto a board which is then flipped upside down, the person is this subjected to being suffocated in a mixture of faeces and urine. Being subjected to sleep deprivation, being constantly threatened. In addition they have to contend with living in basically animal cages having mosquitos feasting on their skin day and night. However carry on you are just making yourself look even more deranged by condoning.