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Title: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 02:11:52 PM
Man, this album is CRAZY.  It's completely outta here and I'm lovin it.  Talk about originality.  Its not West, its not East... it aint South... I cant even call it.  Its just wild.. on some crazy "ish" and now that the Hyphy movement is in full swing, its so clear to see how far ahead of the game Rick Rock was with this album?  This album was the "ish" period. 

Anyone who's been here a while knows that I'm a big Cosmic Slop (Big Lurch) fan and this is like Cosmic Slop part 2, (unfortunatly without Big Lurch) ;)  And like that album, the production is super tight, completely unorthodox.  I cant wait for their new stuff to drop.  For anyone who missed Daz's appearance, I've uploaded it.  The beat knocks and Daz kills it.  Enjoy.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=1A56025E6885A54B

(http://image.listen.com/img/170x170/0/1/5/6/656510_170x170.jpg)
Released: 05-OCT-2004
Record Label: Montbello/Virgin Joint Vent

01. Intro
02. What It Is
03. Hyphy
04. Go Dumb
05. You Might See Me
06. Hoes in Here
07. You Don't Want It
08. Crazy (skit)
09. Go To Work
10. We Ride
11. Ghetto Love Song
12. In Love In a Hoodrat
13. Donkey
14. What If I Had A Gun
15. Damn
16. Momma Dot
17. Momma Dot (skit)
18. Mayhem
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Sparegeez on July 05, 2006, 02:24:35 PM
I bought this shit when it came out. Hoes in Here has to be the best trck IMO.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Addicted To Cake on July 05, 2006, 03:23:58 PM
beats bang hard but those are dudes are trash.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: acgrundy on July 05, 2006, 05:51:45 PM
yeah I can't stand federation, they just don't do it for me, infact I can't even stand to listen to their music.  I wish I liked this new bay/hyphy shit, but I just don't.  I think its complete garbage.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 06:00:27 PM
yeah I can't stand federation, they just don't do it for me, infact I can't even stand to listen to their music.  I wish I liked this new bay/hyphy shit, but I just don't.  I think its complete garbage.

Theres not one Hyphy song you like Grundy?  C'mon.. theres gotta be one.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 05, 2006, 06:16:22 PM
Yea Im not a big fan of this hyphy movement either but theres plenty of cats in the bay that done fuck with the hyphy like spice, yukmouth, ya boy, san quinn, Celly, Messy Marv and others.  There are a few hyphy songs I do like though I think Mac Dre's Feelin Myself was the best.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: K.Dub on July 05, 2006, 06:25:45 PM
Go Dumb is straight fire
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: acgrundy on July 05, 2006, 06:49:33 PM
yeah I can't stand federation, they just don't do it for me, infact I can't even stand to listen to their music.  I wish I liked this new bay/hyphy shit, but I just don't.  I think its complete garbage.

Theres not one Hyphy song you like Grundy?  C'mon.. theres gotta be one.

naw there is quite a few that are dope, but as far as whole albums go, the only hyphy type one that I have liked outta the bay in the last couple of years is the new E40.  To be honest I've only heard the first federation album one time through, so possibly I could be missing something, but listening through it the whole way through I just kept thinking "Damn this is a new representative of the bay?"  I love the bay area and I always trying and give props and support the bay, but I have to admit I think a majority of the stuff thats came out of the bay for the last few years has just been garbage.  Back when I first got into rap it was all the deathrow/dpg stuff, and sic wid it.  That was most of what I listened to.  And I just listen to the stuff now and I think it is horrendous.  Take Celly Cel's The G Filez.  Compare the beats on that album with any album to drop in the bay in the past 5 years.  Not a single album can contend.  I think the bay, and rap in general lacks seriously in the production department.  90% of beats are boring.  And nowadays when a sick beat does blow up, it just gets copied like a mutha fucka...see scott storch, lil jon, and a bunch of other producers who I don't even know.

and people always saying, quit living in the past and open your mind to this new stuff.  And I have.  I do give it a listen.  and quite frankly, I simply think it sucks.  I have given it a chance, and I don't like it.  Why would I force myself to listen to a cd that I think sucks, when I can listen to a cd that I know every single song is a banger.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 07:19:12 PM
yeah I can't stand federation, they just don't do it for me, infact I can't even stand to listen to their music.  I wish I liked this new bay/hyphy shit, but I just don't.  I think its complete garbage.

Theres not one Hyphy song you like Grundy?  C'mon.. theres gotta be one.

naw there is quite a few that are dope, but as far as whole albums go, the only hyphy type one that I have liked outta the bay in the last couple of years is the new E40.  To be honest I've only heard the first federation album one time through, so possibly I could be missing something, but listening through it the whole way through I just kept thinking "Damn this is a new representative of the bay?"  I love the bay area and I always trying and give props and support the bay, but I have to admit I think a majority of the stuff thats came out of the bay for the last few years has just been garbage.  Back when I first got into rap it was all the deathrow/dpg stuff, and sic wid it.  That was most of what I listened to.  And I just listen to the stuff now and I think it is horrendous.  Take Celly Cel's The G Filez.  Compare the beats on that album with any album to drop in the bay in the past 5 years.  Not a single album can contend.  I think the bay, and rap in general lacks seriously in the production department.  90% of beats are boring.  And nowadays when a sick beat does blow up, it just gets copied like a mutha fucka...see scott storch, lil jon, and a bunch of other producers who I don't even know.

and people always saying, quit living in the past and open your mind to this new stuff.  And I have.  I do give it a listen.  and quite frankly, I simply think it sucks.  I have given it a chance, and I don't like it.  Why would I force myself to listen to a cd that I think sucks, when I can listen to a cd that I know every single song is a banger.

I feel you.  Its seems like its a "Love It Or Hate It" type of thing.  I dont know, cant call it.  I do like that remix The Team did to Hyphy Juice.  I think WCR'z posted it a while back.  Its super smooth.  If anyone wants to here it, let me know and I'll hook up a YouSendIt.

Gotta get more of ya'll into some Bay "ish!"
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Sparegeez on July 05, 2006, 07:21:23 PM
yeah I can't stand federation, they just don't do it for me, infact I can't even stand to listen to their music.  I wish I liked this new bay/hyphy shit, but I just don't.  I think its complete garbage.

Theres not one Hyphy song you like Grundy?  C'mon.. theres gotta be one.

naw there is quite a few that are dope, but as far as whole albums go, the only hyphy type one that I have liked outta the bay in the last couple of years is the new E40.  To be honest I've only heard the first federation album one time through, so possibly I could be missing something, but listening through it the whole way through I just kept thinking "Damn this is a new representative of the bay?"  I love the bay area and I always trying and give props and support the bay, but I have to admit I think a majority of the stuff thats came out of the bay for the last few years has just been garbage.  Back when I first got into rap it was all the deathrow/dpg stuff, and sic wid it.  That was most of what I listened to.  And I just listen to the stuff now and I think it is horrendous.  Take Celly Cel's The G Filez.  Compare the beats on that album with any album to drop in the bay in the past 5 years.  Not a single album can contend.  I think the bay, and rap in general lacks seriously in the production department.  90% of beats are boring.  And nowadays when a sick beat does blow up, it just gets copied like a mutha fucka...see scott storch, lil jon, and a bunch of other producers who I don't even know.

and people always saying, quit living in the past and open your mind to this new stuff.  And I have.  I do give it a listen.  and quite frankly, I simply think it sucks.  I have given it a chance, and I don't like it.  Why would I force myself to listen to a cd that I think sucks, when I can listen to a cd that I know every single song is a banger.

I feel you.  Its seems like its a "Love It Or Hate It" type of thing.  I dont know, cant call it.  I do like that remix The Team did to Hyphy Juice.  I think WCR'z posted it a while back.  Its super smooth.  If anyone wants to here it, let me know and I'll hook up a YouSendIt.

Gotta get more of ya'll into some Bay "ish!"

Yeah the beats were banging in the hyphy juice mixtape. The first beat in the intro was the best.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 07:30:37 PM
yeah I can't stand federation, they just don't do it for me, infact I can't even stand to listen to their music.  I wish I liked this new bay/hyphy shit, but I just don't.  I think its complete garbage.

Theres not one Hyphy song you like Grundy?  C'mon.. theres gotta be one.

naw there is quite a few that are dope, but as far as whole albums go, the only hyphy type one that I have liked outta the bay in the last couple of years is the new E40.  To be honest I've only heard the first federation album one time through, so possibly I could be missing something, but listening through it the whole way through I just kept thinking "Damn this is a new representative of the bay?"  I love the bay area and I always trying and give props and support the bay, but I have to admit I think a majority of the stuff thats came out of the bay for the last few years has just been garbage.  Back when I first got into rap it was all the deathrow/dpg stuff, and sic wid it.  That was most of what I listened to.  And I just listen to the stuff now and I think it is horrendous.  Take Celly Cel's The G Filez.  Compare the beats on that album with any album to drop in the bay in the past 5 years.  Not a single album can contend.  I think the bay, and rap in general lacks seriously in the production department.  90% of beats are boring.  And nowadays when a sick beat does blow up, it just gets copied like a mutha fucka...see scott storch, lil jon, and a bunch of other producers who I don't even know.

and people always saying, quit living in the past and open your mind to this new stuff.  And I have.  I do give it a listen.  and quite frankly, I simply think it sucks.  I have given it a chance, and I don't like it.  Why would I force myself to listen to a cd that I think sucks, when I can listen to a cd that I know every single song is a banger.

I feel you.  Its seems like its a "Love It Or Hate It" type of thing.  I dont know, cant call it.  I do like that remix The Team did to Hyphy Juice.  I think WCR'z posted it a while back.  Its super smooth.  If anyone wants to here it, let me know and I'll hook up a YouSendIt.

Gotta get more of ya'll into some Bay "ish!"

Yeah the beats were banging in the hyphy juice mixtape. The first beat in the intro was the best.

FINALLY, somebodies feelin me on some Hyphy "ish."  This song didnt appear on the Mixtape and if you missed it when WCR'z posted it, I got it right here for ya.  Check it out and let me know what you think.   ;)

This song is super smooth.  Love it.  Big ups to WCR'z for hookin it up.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=1B2D0DE120CDE65F
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 07:41:59 PM
"open ya doors and swang to the left... swang to the left... swang to the left... open ya doors and swang to the right... swang to the right... swang to the right..."

UUGGGHHHH... this songs got me makin Master P sounds!!!!

Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Suga Foot on July 05, 2006, 07:50:10 PM
I looooooooooove that Federation album.  There isn't one song on there I don't like.  I could probably rap along with the whole thing (not very well mind you lol) i've listened to it so much. 



Probably my fav. Hyphy track:

Kinsmoke feat. Federation & Rick Rock "On One"

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=60A432844FAFDA1F

Rick Rocks verse is craaaaaazy.  I don't know where this song is from tho.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 07:54:22 PM
I looooooooooove that Federation album.  There isn't one song on there I don't like.  I could probably rap along with the whole thing (not very well mind you lol) i've listened to it so much. 



Probably my fav. Hyphy track:

Kinsmoke feat. Federation & Rick Rock "On One"

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=60A432844FAFDA1F

Rick Rocks verse is craaaaaazy.  I don't know where this song is from tho.

Ah man, I've gotta check this.  Good lookin.

Hey Grundy-Loc.. heres a Hyphy song I like.  Maybe you'll dig it too.

Shake Da Mayor - Stunna Shades
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5252AF107AAB6C04
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 07:57:58 PM
"Im ricky rock and I used to
have a curl..."

"Northern cali king of slappers.."

Rick Rock is a monster.  Nuff said.  Dude is crazy.. outta here.. straight nuts... this beat is bananas!
I love it.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: J Bananas on July 05, 2006, 08:01:36 PM
"open ya doors and swang to the left... swang to the left... swang to the left... open ya doors and swang to the right... swang to the right... swang to the right..."

UUGGGHHHH... this songs got me makin Master P sounds!!!!


haha yeah man thats one of my favorite tracks there
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Native_Joe99 on July 05, 2006, 10:51:12 PM
"Im ricky rock and I used to
have a curl..."

"Northern cali king of slappers.."

Rick Rock is a monster.  Nuff said.  Dude is crazy.. outta here.. straight nuts... this beat is bananas!
I love it.


I agree, Rick Rock has been coming out hard on alot of beats, hes starting to get more well known these days..
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 05, 2006, 11:13:26 PM
"Im ricky rock and I used to
have a curl..."

"Northern cali king of slappers.."

Rick Rock is a monster.  Nuff said.  Dude is crazy.. outta here.. straight nuts... this beat is bananas!
I love it.


I agree, Rick Rock has been coming out hard on alot of beats, hes starting to get more well known these days..

No doubt.  But dudes been puttin in work for years.  I found this list of production credits.  Dont know how accurate it is seeing as how THEY DIDNT LIST COSMIC SLOP SHOP!!   :nawty:

http://slumz.boxden.com/archive/index.php/t-287105.html

Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on July 05, 2006, 11:28:49 PM
I dont now if there ahead its definitly different....props
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Native_Joe99 on July 05, 2006, 11:57:11 PM
"Im ricky rock and I used to
have a curl..."

"Northern cali king of slappers.."

Rick Rock is a monster.  Nuff said.  Dude is crazy.. outta here.. straight nuts... this beat is bananas!
I love it.



I agree, Rick Rock has been coming out hard on alot of beats, hes starting to get more well known these days..

No doubt.  But dudes been puttin in work for years.  I found this list of production credits.  Dont know how accurate it is seeing as how THEY DIDNT LIST COSMIC SLOP SHOP!!   :nawty:

http://slumz.boxden.com/archive/index.php/t-287105.html



wow nice list props man, rick rock "is" a monster.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 06, 2006, 12:00:53 AM
"Im ricky rock and I used to
have a curl..."

"Northern cali king of slappers.."

Rick Rock is a monster.  Nuff said.  Dude is crazy.. outta here.. straight nuts... this beat is bananas!
I love it.



I agree, Rick Rock has been coming out hard on alot of beats, hes starting to get more well known these days..

No doubt.  But dudes been puttin in work for years.  I found this list of production credits.  Dont know how accurate it is seeing as how THEY DIDNT LIST COSMIC SLOP SHOP!!   :nawty:

http://slumz.boxden.com/archive/index.php/t-287105.html



wow nice list props man, rick rock "is" a monster.

Thanks.. but Im sure that list isnt complete because how could the forget one of his most notable projects: The Cosmic Slop Shop?  I wonder if theres a CV for Rick Rock productions. 

JOME.. make a Rick Rock CV official big homie!

Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Jome on July 06, 2006, 06:32:40 AM
Thanks.. but Im sure that list isnt complete because how could the forget one of his most notable projects: The Cosmic Slop Shop?  I wonder if theres a CV for Rick Rock productions. 

JOME.. make a Rick Rock CV official big homie!

That's what we got The Vault Index (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=65364.0) for, mang.  8)

The old Rick Rock C.V. (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=52240) and New, more updated Rick Rock C.V. (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=94896.0)
we$t coa$t last updated the new one July 4th, dunno if he's missing anything though.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Lord Funk on July 06, 2006, 07:22:26 AM
I bought Cosmic Slop Shop for $2 when I was out in Boston last September and haven't even listened to it yet...


... but Axle has me hyped for it now lol. Might have to load that up on the Mp3 player for tomorrow.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: Suga Foot on July 06, 2006, 08:13:59 AM
Cosmic Slop Shop is a crazy album. 
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 06, 2006, 08:54:38 AM
Yea, that Cosmic album is nuts.  Still one of my favs.  We need to start a Big Lurch CV for his guest appearances but Im not sure where all of these tracks popped up.  I know where most of them showed up but not all.  Imma work with Jome to figure out where these came from but if any of you guys have information to help out, please reply.  We need to know what album it showed up on and ideally a reference link.  In exchange for your help, Ill upload my Big Lurch collection to YouSendIt.  :o If anyone needs that Cosmic album too, let me know.  Now lets work on turning this list into an official CV for the psychotic, cannabolistic homie Big Lurch.  ;D

Hardcopy Report On Big Lurch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFVlE-nzLQ&search=big%20lurch

Mac Dre Ft. Big Lurch - Fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMuHvvYA_HY&search=big%20lurch

Heres my list of Big Lurch appearances:

01_Big Lurch_Ft_Roger_Troutman - Can_I_Take_Ya_Home.mp3
02_E A_Ski_Ft_Big_Lurch_-_Closet Nigga_(EA_SKI_EARTHQUAKE).mp3
03_C-Bo - Can_You_Deal_With_This_Ft_Killa_Tay_Big_Lurch_Rog-CR_(C-BO_WC_MAFIA).mp3
04_Big Lurch Feat Spook_-_Nigga Riches.mp3
05_Big Lurch Feat Death b4 Dishoner_-_Whats Your Occupation_(TUFF_STORIES_COMP).mp3
06_E-40_-_Ft_Big_Lurch_Record Haters_(THE_HALL_OF_GAME).mp3
07_187 Fac Feat Big Lurch_-_All Head No Body_(187_FAC_FAC_NOT_FICTION).mp3
08_C Bo Feat Big Lurch_-_Break em Off_(C-BO_ONE_LIFE_2_LIVE).mp3
09_Keak Da Sneak Feat Big Lurch_-_Rydas_(KEAK DA SNEAK  HIGH TECH).mp3
10_Big_Lurch_-_Paper_Route_(J-Cutt Presents It's On).mp3
11_Laroo Feat Big Lurch_-_Gangsta_(Gimme_Yo_Sak).mp3
12_Mac Dre Feat Big Lurch_-_Fire_(MAC_DRE_RAPPER_GONE_BAD).mp3
13_West Coast Mafia Feat Cosmic Slop Shop_-_Monopoly.mp3
14_Fatal Konnektion feat Big Lurch_-_Those Who Oppose_(FATAL KONNEKTION HOSTILE INTENTIONS).mp3
15_Big_Lurch_Feat_Yukmouth_And_TQ_-_Somebody's Watching Me_(MIKE_MOSLEY_PLAT_PLAQUES).mp3
16_Vell Bacardi Feat Big Lurch_Mac Mall_-_Playa Shit Remix_(MOBBIN' THRU THE BAY, VOL. 1).mp3
17_Rbl Posse Feat Big Lurch_Mystikal_-_How We Commin_(RBL_Posse_EYE FOR AN EYE).mp3
18_Big_Lurch_-_The Real Ones_(GHETTO_STREET_PHARMACIST).mp3
19_Could God Be a G  performed by L.A. Nash  Big Lurch_(LA_NASH).mp3
20_Big_Lurch_And_Spook_-_God_Takes_Notes.mp3
21_Doonie_Baby-Hustlers_World.mp3
22_K.F._Klik_-_Thrilla_Feat._Big_Lurch.mp3
23_Certified-Mob_Life_Ft_Big_Lurch.mp3
24_Luni_Coleone_-_Ft_Big_Lurch - Bad Behavior.mp3
25_Kokane_Ft_Big_Lurch_-_The_Way_You_Feel.mp3
26_Herm_Ft_Big_Lurch_-_Some_Love.mp3
27_Big Lurch - Dirty Game.mp3
28_Big Lurch - Mr. Spence - T. Luni - Three Thirty Three - Deeper and Deeper.mp3
29_Big Lurch - Mr. Spence - T. Luni - Three Thirty Three - If You Want It.mp3
30_Big Lurch - Nutted_On_My_Seat.mp3
31_Rbl Posse Feat Big Lurch_Mystikal_&_Roger_Jr_-_How We Commin_(Westside_Remix).mp3
32_Outlawz_-_Hard_Labor_Ft._C-Bo_&_Big_Lurch-cr.mp3
33_Yukmouth_-_Sad Millionaire_Ft_Big_Lurch.mp3
34_Big_Lurch_And_Big_Bone_-_Repercussions_(GHETTO_STREET_THUGZ).mp3
35_RBX_Ft_Big_Lurch_-_Remember_Me.mp3










Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on July 06, 2006, 02:55:23 PM
I love Federation tracks.. always f***ing hot!!!  and yes Rick Rock IS A BEAST!!!

Thanks for all the tracks that you all provided in this thread.  I like that Kinsmoke On One track and I've heard that We Ride track with Daz.. I think that came out in 2004 didn't it?  I bumped that all summer and still do.
Title: Re: Federation Ahead Of Its Time??
Post by: AxleF on July 06, 2006, 04:25:04 PM
I love Federation tracks.. always f***ing hot!!!  and yes Rick Rock IS A BEAST!!!

Thanks for all the tracks that you all provided in this thread.  I like that Kinsmoke On One track and I've heard that We Ride track with Daz.. I think that came out in 2004 didn't it?  I bumped that all summer and still do.

Yea, the album was released:
Released: 05-OCT-2004
Record Label: Montbello/Virgin Joint Vent