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Title: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on July 13, 2006, 10:34:47 AM
BEIRUT, Lebanon (AP) - Israel intensified its attacks against Lebanon on Thursday, blasting Beirut's airport and two Lebanese army air bases near the Syrian border, and imposing a naval blockade. More than 50 people have died in violence following the capture of two Israeli soldiers by Hezbollah militants.

Warplanes punched holes in the runways of Beirut's international airport and two military air bases, attacks that could draw the Lebanese army into the conflict.

Israel's army chief Brig. Gen. Dan Halutz warned that ``nothing is safe'' in Lebanon and said Beirut itself - particularly Hezbollah offices and residences - would be a target. Maj. Gen. Udi Adam said Israel had hit hundreds of targets and hadn't ruled out sending in ground troops.

Hezbollah fired rockets into northern Israeli towns and said it was using a new missile that appeared to be more advanced than previous models. One Israeli was killed and more than 35 injured.

The militant group also said it would rocket Haifa, a key port and the country's third-largest city, if Israel hit Beirut, a strike that would be the deepest ever into Israel by the guerrillas - some 18 miles. An Israeli intelligence official said Hezbollah missiles could reach Haifa.

Two days of Israeli bombings, the heaviest air campaign against its neighbor in 24 years, had killed 47 Lebanese and wounded 103, Health Minister Mohammed Jawad Khalife said. Besides the Israeli civilian, eight Israeli soldiers had also been killed.

Both sides played a high stakes game following the capture of the two soldiers by Hezbollah: Israel sought to end Hezbollah's presence on the border, while the guerrillas insisted on trading the captured soldiers for Arab prisoners.

Trapped between the two sides was Lebanon, which Israel said it held responsible for Hezbollah's actions. Hezbollah fighters operate with almost total autonomy in southern Lebanon, and the government has no control over their actions. But Lebanon has long resisted international pressure to disarm the group.

The Israeli warnings of more attacks caused panic in Beirut, and many people stayed home from work. Long lines formed at gas stations and supermarkets.

The violence reverberated throughout the region and pushed crude oil prices to a new intraday record of $76.30 a barrel.

President Bush pledged to work with Israel, criticizing Hezbollah for thwarting efforts for peace in the Middle East.

``My attitude is this: there are a group of terrorists who want to stop the advance of peace,'' he said at a news conference in Germany. ``The soldiers need to be returned.''

Western countries, Russia and the United Nations called for restraint and demanded the return of the soldiers. The Arab League called an emergency meeting of foreign ministers in Cairo on Saturday, while the Lebanese Cabinet urged the U.N. Security Council to intervene.

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan planned to send three veteran U.N. officials to the Middle East to try to defuse what he called a ``major crisis.''

The European Union criticized Israel for using what it called ``disproportionate'' force in its attacks and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said he was planning a peace mission.

Moderate Arab governments reacted with relative restraint, apparently reflecting a sentiment in Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia that Hezbollah - and by implication its top ally Syria - had started the fight with Israel.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas warned that Israel's Lebanon offensive ``is raising our fears of a new regional war'' and urged world powers to intervene.

The eight Israeli soldiers killed so far is the highest death toll for the army in four years. Three soldiers died in the initial Hezbollah raid, and four were killed when their tank ran over a land mine Wednesday.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Israel had information Hezbollah was trying to transfer the two captured soldiers to Iran, which backs Hezbollah. He did not disclose the source of his information.

After hitting roads and bridges in the south all day Wednesday, Israel dramatically expanded its campaign Thursday with their biggest offensive in Lebanon since Israel's 1982 invasion.

Israeli warships imposed a naval blockade of Lebanese ports, and the Israeli military said it could also target the Beirut-to-Damascus highway, the main land link between Lebanon and the outside world.

Military jets attacked runways at the Rayak air base in the eastern Bekaa Valley and at the Qoleiat air base in the north. Rayak, four miles west of the Syrian border, is home to the country's main military air base.

Because Lebanon's army has no operational fixed-wing aircraft and only operates helicopters - which can take off or land anywhere - the attacks appeared to be mostly symbolic.

Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz said his forces would not allow Hezbollah guerrillas to occupy positions along the southern Lebanese border.

``If the government of Lebanon fails to deploy its forces, as is expected of a sovereign government, we shall not allow Hezbollah forces to remain any further on the borders of the state of Israel,'' Peretz said.

Brig. Gen. Yossi Baidatz, commander of the research arm of military intelligence, told a parliamentary committee Thursday that Hezbollah had about 100 missiles with a range of 25 to 44 miles, a participant in the meeting said. That would put the cities of Haifa and Tiberias within range. The participant didn't identify the missile.

Travelers to and from Beirut were stranded all over the region and beyond after the airport strike. Among them was Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh, who was returning from a visit to Armenia and - like many - was forced to make his way home through Syria. The main terminal of the $500 million airport remained intact.

The Israeli military said it struck the airport because it is ``a central hub for the transfer of weapons and supplies to the Hezbollah terrorist organization.''

It was the first time since Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon and occupation of Beirut that the airport was hit by Israel. The Israelis in 1968 sent commandos to Beirut airport, blowing up 13 passenger planes in retaliation for Arab militants firing on an Israeli airliner in Athens.

Details from the violence included:

An Israeli missile hit Hezbollah's Al-Manar TV studios in southern Beirut, station official Ibrahim Farhat said. One person was hurt; broadcasts continued. An Al-Manar transmission antenna hit near Baalbek stopped transmissions in that area.

A civic center attached to a Shiite Muslim mosque near the town of Baalbek was hit.

A Lebanese family of 10 and another family of seven were killed in their homes in the village of Dweir, Lebanese officials said.

Among the dead Lebanese were a soldier and a Hezbollah fighter.

Hezbollah fired rockets at the northern Israeli towns of Safed, Nahariya, Kiryat Shmona, and Carmiel, saying it was using a rocket called ``Thunder 1'' for the first time. The missiles appeared to be more advanced than the inaccurate Katyusha - the standard Hezbollah rocket.

The Israeli army said several rockets had landed more than 12 miles south of the border, showing that Hezbollah has managed to extend its missiles' range.

Associated Press reporter Karin Laub in Jerusalem contributed to this report.


07/13/06 13:00 © Copyright The Associated Press. All rights reserved. The information contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.








now my question is why doesnt america have the balls to do the same wen the fuckers in Iraq do da same to our soilders
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Bomb-Aź on July 13, 2006, 10:42:16 AM
ill say one thing...israel's got balls



peace
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on July 13, 2006, 10:43:08 AM
but those fuckin jew aproached this situation the wrong fuckin way becuase lebnon really has nothin to do with this situation. its only involvment is bein stuck between 2 imature counrties
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Jip on July 13, 2006, 11:07:21 AM
wrong section, put this shit in TOT, some come to the g-spot to get away from that place
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on July 13, 2006, 11:17:18 AM
wrong section, put this shit in TOT, some come to the g-spot to get away from that place
my bad
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 13, 2006, 12:09:39 PM
LOL, is it tough for you to enter other sub-sections of this board?
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: regimemob510 on July 13, 2006, 12:27:04 PM
but those fuckin jew aproached this situation the wrong fuckin way becuase lebnon really has nothin to do with this situation. its only involvment is bein stuck between 2 imature counrties

dude, the fucking jews always do that, have u seen munich???  honestly, this means its on, cuz lebanon has been bi-partisan thru out the middle east conflict, they were against syria, and for democracy, and for muslims having hezbollah as their military. the jews fucked up by being such dicks, and thinking a jewish life is worth more then any other life, and that will come back to bite them in their ass.  hezbollah militants (propoganda words call them "guerillas") are no joke, they've been gettin down, and they got some crazy training.  so if the jews come into lebanon, its on and crackin, this could be the beginning of WW3, cuz the US is gonna be with israel, along with england.  and all of the jihad fighters are gonna be the hezbollah army, and jihad fighters have been waiting to get at israelis, so its on and crackin.  its sad when people would rather draw blood, then to reconcile differances...
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on July 13, 2006, 12:56:48 PM
FUCKIN ISRAELIES i swear man im not racist but jews are somethin else man
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 13, 2006, 01:34:04 PM
I wonder if people like CWalker care that America's foriegn policy is mostly dictated by the Jewish lobby and the interests of Isreal.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Real American on July 13, 2006, 02:48:39 PM
I wonder if people like CWalker care that America's foriegn policy is mostly dictated by the Jewish lobby and the interests of Isreal.

Of course America is going to supprt a democratic, free nation like Israel over terrorist governments like the one the Palestinians elected.

I support Israel.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 13, 2006, 02:49:51 PM
FUCKIN ISRAELIES i swear man im not racist but jews are somethin else man


LMAO...You are close-minded and easily brain-washed...One of the people who should be hidden from propaganda.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: virtuoso on July 13, 2006, 03:16:51 PM
You clowns, or at least those of you who apologise for the actions of Israel are the reason why the american government still has some semblance of power. Let me make this really simple for you real american when Israel deliberately attacking the palestinian water supplies it was immediately in direct violation of International Law. When such laws are repeatedly violated the people allowing such actions to be perpretated then become war criminals because they are breaking basic international law with impunity. Therefore their actions are one of terrorists, so once again you are talking shit. It was quite amazing how quickly your simple minded self skulked off when those "evil" muslims in chicago turned out to be nothing more than simple minded retards who had been hyped up as "preparing to launch a ground war in the U.S" lol, you do realise that throughout history there have been apologists which have thus allowed cruel brutal regimes all the platform they needed to continue.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on July 14, 2006, 11:29:46 AM
Mazal Tov!!
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: ARYC on July 14, 2006, 11:46:01 AM
latest developments:

-71 lebanese civilians killed , 100s injured
-israeli attack destroys Hezbollah HQ which includes nasrallahs home (though he survived)
-Nasrallah recorded speach : we will strike Haifa and what's after haifa (probably with the raad 1 rocket with a 75 km range and the zelzal 2 rocket which has a range of 200kms) , "we are ready for an all out war"
-an israeli missile boat has been hit with 2 rockets
-hezbollah claims to have deployed an air defense system that it has never used before

Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 14, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
latest developments:

-71 lebanese civilians killed , 100s injured
-israeli attack destroys Hezbollah HQ which includes nasrallahs home (though he survived)
-Nasrallah recorded speach : we will strike Haifa and what's after haifa (probably with the raad 1 rocket with a 75 km range and the zelzal 2 rocket which has a range of 200kms) , "we are ready for an all out war"
-an israeli missile boat has been hit with 2 rockets
-hezbollah claims to have deployed an air defense system that it has never used before



man, those hezbollahis are true soldiers. balls of steel those dudes have
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: regimemob510 on July 14, 2006, 12:52:22 PM
I wonder if people like CWalker care that America's foriegn policy is mostly dictated by the Jewish lobby and the interests of Isreal.

Of course America is going to supprt a democratic, free nation like Israel over terrorist governments like the one the Palestinians elected.

I support Israel.

real american, your not a real american, your a hick that fucks his mom and sister, and daughter, that came outta his mom, which is still ur sister.  anyways, if you werent so ignorant, you would know that lebanon is a democracy too, and they're a free nation.  what you really need to do, is grab an israeli made gun, im sure u kno wut its called u cracker, put it to your temple, and pull the trigger as fast as you can, cuz your ignorance will cause WW3 and ultimately the day of judgement because of not being able to have proper diplomatic relations without having a jews dick in your mouth,and gargling his balls.  by your statement, you basically said you love israeli dick all up in you, and you want more, and you like to gargle a jew's balls.  fuck off u real american homo.  thank god im from the bay area where people are actually smart, know whats going on in the world, and are outspoken about their opinions.  im a muslim, and i dont agree with what hezbollah did, but there was definitely a better way to handle this situation. to just bomb a sovereign nation outright is really pushing the envelope.  it makes me think that we're all not safe, even if we feel that we are, our rights don't matter, i guess.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: regimemob510 on July 14, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
Mazal Tov!!

i'll say that to you when you lose your home and family.  8)
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on July 14, 2006, 01:57:38 PM
I know you would like that, just like Hezbolla and Hamas. This is exactly why I support every step my country takes to protect me, my family and my friends.



Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: regimemob510 on July 14, 2006, 02:10:53 PM
I know you would like that, just like Hezbolla and Hamas. This is exactly why I support every step my country takes to protect me, my family and my friends.





if you read wut i wrote, i said i wouldnt like anymore bloodshed, and we need peace.  and i said that "i would say mozal tav to you when you family is dead and your home is turned into rubble" in order to put you in the shoes of a palestinian or lebanese person.  and obviously you did wut i thought u would do, try to spin it around, and support your countries war crimes and scandolous actions.  more power to you, the man upstairs is watching all of this, i wouldnt be able to sleep at night if i knew my "sovereign nation" was causing all of this bloodshed, but hey, thats just me.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on July 14, 2006, 02:41:09 PM
Peace means safety. Sovereignty means provision of safety. If someone undermines my safety, my sovereign is responsible for removing the threat.Talks of peace when safety is undermined are nothing more than a hypocrisy. If a sovereign is incompetent, he should either give up his sovereignty or take responsibility for his actions (or lack of them).
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: regimemob510 on July 14, 2006, 02:50:31 PM
Peace means safety. Sovereignty means provision of safety. If someone undermines my safety, my sovereign is responsible for removing the threat.Talks of peace when safety is undermined are nothing more than a hypocrisy. If a sovereign is incompetent, he should either give up his sovereignty or take responsibility for his actions (or lack of them).

quit all the propoganda bullshit, i can see the book rammed 10 inches into your asshole.  peace means peace, no shooting at eachother, and every man must give their honest word to go along with a treaty, so eachothers people are safe.  peace can be made, you are causing war, by placing an issue on safety and bloodshed, going about it like that, you will never have peace.  ps yehuds are idiots...
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on July 14, 2006, 02:55:23 PM
Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan<<<Propaganda Book?!! LOL@ You Jew-hating clown.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: regimemob510 on July 14, 2006, 02:56:53 PM
Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan<<<Propaganda Book LOL@ You Jew-hating clown.

jews are taking "safety" out of context.  to a jew, safety means, "kill anything that even resembles a palestinian."  but in actuality, safety in that context means to have a cease fire treaty.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on July 14, 2006, 03:00:41 PM
to a jew, safety means, "kill anything that even resembles a palestinian."

That's why about 20% of Israel's population are Palestinians?

Man, get your head out of your ass. LMAO @ "to a jew"... And you dare to call ME brainwashed? you? with your Nazi slogans?
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: ARYC on July 14, 2006, 11:28:59 PM
ok latest developments (pretty much more of the same but elaborating)

-basically Hassan Nasrallah came on TV and said he wanted to address the Lebanese ppl , the arab leaders and the Israelis
to the Lebanese he said that victory is coming , all we need is patience and perseverence
to the arab leaders (allduing to the Egyptians , jordanians and Saudis) he said that they had never bet on them but he had always bet on his ppl and God , he told the arab leaders to bet on their minds and we'll bet on our hearts.
to the Israelis he basically said u wanted to change the rules of the game , consider them changed we're going to open war to haifa , what's beyond haifa and what's beyond beyond haifa

then he said that the surprises he promised begin now , look at the missile boat that bombed beirut an watch it burn.
minutes later Tv channels show the ppl of the southern suburb setting off fireworks and then they report that it has in fact been hit and 4 IDF sailors are lost.

reports about how the boat was hit vary , some say and unmanned air vehicle stocked with explosives , some report seeing two missiles striking the boat one on the deck one in the side , i don't think anyone expected hezbollah to have such weapons , ESPECIALLY the israeli sailors as pictures show them wearing neither helmets nor life jackets while on deck.
If hezbollahs "air defense" system is effective and they are truly in possesion of Zelzal-2 rockets (as the IDF has hinted) then this is going to escalate like a hell.


(http://www.meib.org/images/0211_zelzal2.jpg)
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 15, 2006, 12:01:20 AM
Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

^^ What is this book about?  One guy I used to discuss polotics and religion with at work used to tell me to read this book.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 15, 2006, 12:31:59 AM
Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

^^ What is this book about?  One guy I used to discuss polotics and religion with at work used to tell me to read this book.

the book deals with the relationship and responsibilities between state and citizenry. Namely what the role of the state is vis a vis its populace (social contract)

Hobbes believes the nature of man is evil, competitive and that life is brutal and short. Man by nature strives and competes with one another. This state of nature is anarchaic and the rule of power holds sway.

Only by relinquishing all power to a soveriegn who will run the state on behalf of the citizenry, can mankind live in peace.

Basically a justification for a strong all powerful albiet benevolent ruler.

Locke and Rousseau also touched on similiar issues with different perspectives. Im big on Rousseau personally.
Title: Re: Israel Blasts Lebanon Airport, Air Bases
Post by: ARYC on July 15, 2006, 09:14:56 AM
"Hobbes believes the nature of man is evil, competitive and that life is brutal and short. Man by nature strives and competes with one another. This state of nature is anarchaic and the rule of power holds sway"

basically "homo omini lupos" (not sure of the spelling) which basically means man is a wolf for man