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Title: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 11:07:44 AM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 27, 2006, 11:13:36 AM
Because he's New York...He just wants to be Biggie so bad, he's doing everything he believes Biggie would have done had Biggie not died...That includes stealing Biggies flow, lyrics, and even entire verses. Like you said, he's average...Not even close to the greatest.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 27, 2006, 11:19:35 AM
Nas > Jay-Z

Nas is king of NY
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: No Compute on July 27, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 27, 2006, 11:29:25 AM
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: J Bananas on July 27, 2006, 11:30:41 AM
cause he's the closest living thing to biggie
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Jip on July 27, 2006, 11:32:14 AM
50 is the king of NY, its clear

i dunno, jay-z would be considered the greatest if mainstream rap was your thing, hes very mainstream so the kids who listen to him and think its the truth

us educated ones know andre 3000 is the G.O.A.T
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: coola on July 27, 2006, 11:43:41 AM
jay-z has 3 certified classics imo... reasonable doubt, blueprint and black album... his next album is sure to hit too, he comes up with the hit records, and has style, flow and charisma on the mic...

Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: No Compute on July 27, 2006, 11:51:53 AM
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?

I'll give you a hint, he's dead.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 27, 2006, 11:54:20 AM
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?

I'll give you a hint, he's dead.

Hitler?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: 'EclipZe on July 27, 2006, 12:01:37 PM
^ lol

only songs i like from him are hard knock life and can i live, i just dont like his style..
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: No Compute on July 27, 2006, 12:03:52 PM
No idea, Jay-Z is the 2nd most overated rapper.

who is 1st?

I'll give you a hint, he's dead.

Hitler?

no Hitler was a good rapper, I'm tallking about Tupac
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 12:06:07 PM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 27, 2006, 12:08:03 PM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 27, 2006, 12:09:35 PM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X

oh you really think?  ;)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 27, 2006, 12:13:41 PM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X

oh you really think?  ;)



Well, I actually knew this for quite some time, but I've noticed more and more people actually taking him seriously, so I wanted to point that out...
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Jome on July 27, 2006, 12:14:37 PM
jay-z has 3 certified classics imo...

Yup, how many other rappers can say that ??

Like Snoop said, Jay is the king of N.Y., with Nas not far behind.
What Jay have done and achieved in hiphop, is unrivalled.

Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 27, 2006, 12:19:41 PM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?


i can see your point....about not understanding and what not...so think about it this way...

the reason we love jay-z and all that...is the same reason you love cam'ron and dipset...to me cam'ron is an average rapper (actually to me cam is a great rapper who lost is touch right after sde)....either way...i feel that most of cam's catalogue & all of dipsets catalogue is trash...you guys always say cam is the truth and all that.

not to start a dipset hate thread...thats not at all what im trying to do so don't take it that way...i'm just sayin...its basically the same reason


I don't think Sikotic really likes Dipset, dude...I'm pretty sure it's just a gimmick he's playin' with. (I know this will upset all you Dipset followers). :-X

oh you really think?  ;)



Well, I actually knew this for quite some time, but I've noticed more and more people actually taking him seriously, so I wanted to point that out...
ditto
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 12:29:37 PM
oh haha i didn't know if sik really liked em or not...either way...my explanation still applies
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on July 27, 2006, 12:34:26 PM
To me jay is great coz he is a well rounded rapper, he can make tracks for the charts but at the same time there usually not bullshit e.g. eminem and 50. He can do the serious tracks, tracks from the heart, he has got good punchlines and the dude can flow.

He may not be as deep as some other rappers but he is good in every aspect of the game where as a lot of mc' s may be good at one thing and not another.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 12:36:30 PM
To me jay is great coz he is a well rounded rapper, he can make tracks for the charts but at the same time there usually not bullshit e.g. eminem and 50. He can do the serious tracks, tracks from the heart, he has got good punchlines and the dude can flow.

He may not be as deep as some other rappers but he is good in every aspect of the game where as a lot of mc' s may be good at one thing and not another.

jay still makes wack shit sometimes...eg: hard knock life, izzo, big pimpin, etc...
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Eddie G. on July 27, 2006, 12:37:42 PM
I've never thought Jay-Z was anything above the level of "good."  I liked the earlier shit he did in his career, Vol. 1 is OK, and Vol. 2 is a damn good CD.  After that he got WAY too cocky, and thought he was way better than he really is.  It seemed like pretty much everyone else but me bought it.  He just sounds like a dumb piece of shit now to me.  All he does is talk shit and say that he's from New York.  I agree with Jome saying what he did for hip-hop is unrivaled though, I respect his business with starting Roc-A-Fella and moving up to CEO of Def Jam (even though Def Jam has been taking it in the ass ever since he started.)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 27, 2006, 12:48:53 PM
To me, Jay-Z is the definition of an average rapper...
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 12:54:38 PM
He is one of the 15-20 best rappers ever but he probably is a little overated.

Nas = Jay-Z

Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 27, 2006, 12:58:22 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY


LMAO
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 12:59:07 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY


LMAO

Seriousley Nik, I bet if you gave Killa a chance you would be impressed
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:01:49 PM
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:03:32 PM
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 01:03:53 PM
I've never thought Jay-Z was anything above the level of "good."  I liked the earlier shit he did in his career, Vol. 1 is OK, and Vol. 2 is a damn good CD.  After that he got WAY too cocky, and thought he was way better than he really is.  It seemed like pretty much everyone else but me bought it.  He just sounds like a dumb piece of shit now to me.  All he does is talk shit and say that he's from New York.  I agree with Jome saying what he did for hip-hop is unrivaled though, I respect his business with starting Roc-A-Fella and moving up to CEO of Def Jam (even though Def Jam has been taking it in the ass ever since he started.)

That's how I felt. Everyone was talkin about Jay in the late 90's and how great he is, but I felt like I was the only one that didn't buy it wither.I actually respect him more as a businessman than a rapper, but for most people, it's the other way around.

Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY


LMAO

Seriousley Nik, I bet if you gave Killa a chance you would be impressed

Yeah man, just give em a chance. You'll see the light like I eventually did.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:12:31 PM
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in

hmmm maybe that wasn't you...one of you dipset dickriders said that the other day...either way nobody takes you seriously

sorry for the misquote  ;D
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:13:58 PM
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in

hmmm maybe that wasn't you...one of you dipset dickriders said that the other day...either way nobody takes you seriously

sorry for the misquote  ;D

No it wasnt me Lukey.  Enough beefing bout rap I dont have the energy, u watch True Romance yet?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:16:28 PM
^^ aren't you the same muthafucka that said that vanilla ice and hammer were better than pac and big?

nobody takes you seriously

I never said that  ???  WTF are you talking about, when in the HELL did I ever say that, please clue me in

hmmm maybe that wasn't you...one of you dipset dickriders said that the other day...either way nobody takes you seriously

sorry for the misquote  ;D

No it wasnt me Lukey.  Enough beefing bout rap I dont have the energy, u watch True Romance yet?

nah but thanks for reminding me...i'll rent it next time i go to hollywood...i would've last night but i wanted to rent final destination 3 and my girl hasn't seen the first 2 so we ended up just renting all 3...when i take those back i'll get it for sure though
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Mac 10 † on July 27, 2006, 01:17:24 PM
Sik I respect your opinion but like Chief said and Jome repeated - Jay has 3 classic (at least very least "near-classic") albums.

Dude is in the top 10 MC's of all time without a shadow of a doubt.

To look at how good Jay is - just look at what people have to say about him when they talk about who they think is the G.O.A.T.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2006/emcees/index15.jhtml

People mentioning him include: Cube, Nas, Grandmaster Flash, JD, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim.

I mean if you don't believe what they say, who are you gonna believe?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:19:30 PM
Sik I respect your opinion but like Chief said and Jome repeated - Jay has 3 classic (at least very least "near-classic") albums.

Dude is in the top 10 MC's of all time without a shadow of a doubt.

To look at how good Jay is - just look at what people have to say about him when they talk about who they think is the G.O.A.T.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2006/emcees/index15.jhtml

People mentioning him include: Cube, Nas, Grandmaster Flash, JD, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim.

I mean if you don't believe what they say, who are you gonna believe?

Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Jome on July 27, 2006, 01:24:44 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.


Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:25:24 PM
Sik I respect your opinion but like Chief said and Jome repeated - Jay has 3 classic (at least very least "near-classic") albums.

Dude is in the top 10 MC's of all time without a shadow of a doubt.

To look at how good Jay is - just look at what people have to say about him when they talk about who they think is the G.O.A.T.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/h/hip_hop_week/2006/emcees/index15.jhtml

People mentioning him include: Cube, Nas, Grandmaster Flash, JD, Big Daddy Kane, Rakim.

I mean if you don't believe what they say, who are you gonna believe?

Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

see there's where we differ on opinion

i like cam...always have...but i don't like cam's recent stuff...

i think confessions of fire was an incredible album...i wouldn't say classic but it was damn good
S.D.E. was an alright album...i would say it was average
come home with me had some sick songs but started his decline...

and then from there its just been trash
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:26:28 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:28:02 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:29:04 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 01:30:21 PM
Jay only has 1 classic. Reasonable Doubt is respected by anyone who knows anything about hip-hop. Blueprint and Black Album don't have the same consensus, so they're not classics.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:31:05 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on July 27, 2006, 01:32:31 PM
Fuck the camel
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:33:28 PM
the whole camel thing is played out as hell too...i remember saying jay-z looked like a camel like 8 years ago....its no secret he is probably the ugliest guy in the rap game
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Mac 10 † on July 27, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
Guy who looks like a camel fuckin arguably the hottest female singer around.....legend for that alone 8)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Don Breezio on July 27, 2006, 01:36:35 PM
Guy who looks like a camel fuckin arguably the hottest female singer around.....legend for that alone 8)

amen...and its not like she's doing it for the money lol
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:37:56 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers

Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 01:39:36 PM
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: youngmessnucca on July 27, 2006, 01:41:23 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

Nah homie, Cam be saying rooty-tooty, pooty-doody, killa, killa mo killa killa fo' killa killa shit too much. While at times, Cam is so retarted & arrogant that he comes off as brilliant, for the most part, he is not that talented. He spit fire on his first 2 releases, then completely lost it with Come Home With Me. Killa Season was dope, but that lies almost entirley with the production. You complain about Kurupt being whack alot, but Cam does the same shit in a differnet way. I just can;t picture how someone could really think of Cam above Jay, Nas, Kiss or even Fab without trying to be funny. I don't care about the pink shit, that was what it was. This man will never be on the level Jay-Z is.

And if Cam is allergic to a flop, that dude must be sick as hell right now. Killa Season FLOPPED.

People like Jay because he appeals to all different types of the hip-hop audience. He has a wider eange than Cam, and comes off as being much smarter. As far as what Sikotic said, I agree with Jay not being the best rapper to listen to, due to a monontnous voice. But he can flow, picks good beats, and above all, is a spectacular lyricist. Jay also has POWER, which alot of folks respect, hes got the baddest chick in the game, which to me also demands respect.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:42:07 PM
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

No your right Killa is still on tops of his game,  he murdered his verses on Killa Season, and he was tight on J.R.'s Byrd Call    "It may seem petty, but we all turn mean deadly, for green fetty, my whole team ready"
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: youngmessnucca on July 27, 2006, 01:43:01 PM
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

Again man, Jay has nothing to gain from dissing this clown. He already has the respect on the East, that Cam craves but will never get, especially with his childish dissing of Jay.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: youngmessnucca on July 27, 2006, 01:43:58 PM
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

No your right Killa is still on tops of his game,  he murdered his verses on Killa Season, and he was tight on J.R.'s Byrd Call    "It may seem petty, but we all turn mean deadly, for green fetty, my whole team ready"

The quote you posted is no more than a basic gangsta rap cliche'. How many times have we heard this before?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 27, 2006, 01:44:40 PM
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

Again man, Jay has nothing to gain from dissing this clown. He already has the respect on the East, that Cam craves but will never get, especially with his childish dissing of Jay.

How is Cam a clown? He has gotten propz from some of the best ever, he can get any bitch he wants, he is rich as fuck, plus he is a great rapper.  So that defines clown, and oh yeah he is a damn good actor to
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on July 27, 2006, 01:47:45 PM
Im down with jigga, Reasonable doubt, roc la familia, the blueprint and the balc albums are some of my favorite records.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: youngmessnucca on July 27, 2006, 01:50:18 PM
Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay
I'd get lazy too if nobody was seeing me in the rap game and even the "greatest rapper alive" won't step up to the plate. But hey, my opinion. I don't wanna stray off topic or nuthin.

Again man, Jay has nothing to gain from dissing this clown. He already has the respect on the East, that Cam craves but will never get, especially with his childish dissing of Jay.


How is Cam a clown? He has gotten propz from some of the best ever, he can get any bitch he wants, he is rich as fuck, plus he is a great rapper.  So that defines clown, and oh yeah he is a damn good actor to

He not anywhere near as rich as Jay is, you know that he ain't pulling anything as bad as Beyonce.

Another point that you ain't hearing. You live by Sac right? Im from NJ, and I am telling you that Cam is NOT respected on the East Coast, sorry to tell you but it is the TRUTH.

The clown statement comes from, yes wearing pink, saying stupid ass lines like Rooty-Pooty, Snooty-Dooty on more than 1 occasion, and holding a goddam PRESS CONFERENCE too announce him dissing his idol, Jay-Z. All Cam needs is a painted on smile, some big ass-shoes, and a big red fake nose, and hell right in with the circus.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 01:50:36 PM
You know, I bet it kills Jigga everyday that the person who put Cam on and got him his first deal was none other than Biggie himself. Anyways, back to the topic at hand.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: youngmessnucca on July 27, 2006, 01:55:42 PM
You know, I bet it kills Jigga everyday that the person who put Cam on and got him his first deal was none other than Biggie himself. Anyways, back to the topic at hand.

I doubt it, he wakes up next to Beyonce. I really doubt Cam is even on Jay's mind at all, while Cam goes to bed mad that Jay won't let Juelz appear on any Dipset releases.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: PLANT on July 27, 2006, 02:12:14 PM
the real question is.........why do you have such a hard on for dipset? ???

take that gay ass pink shirt off and remove that barbie belt and someone might take you seriously
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 02:16:48 PM
the real question is.........why do you have such a hard on for dipset? ???

take that gay ass pink shirt off and remove that barbie belt and someone might take you seriously

U mad?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Mac 10 † on July 27, 2006, 02:20:59 PM
^ lol
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: J Bananas on July 27, 2006, 02:22:02 PM
we built this city!
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: PLANT on July 27, 2006, 02:23:50 PM
the real question is.........why do you have such a hard on for dipset? ???

take that gay ass pink shirt off and remove that barbie belt and someone might take you seriously

U mad?
no, but Id like to see you try this one on
(http://antinsync.freeservers.com/rally.jpg)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 02:36:57 PM
the real question is.........why do you have such a hard on for dipset? ???

take that gay ass pink shirt off and remove that barbie belt and someone might take you seriously

U mad?
no, but Id like to see you try this one on
(http://antinsync.freeservers.com/rally.jpg)

The fuck outta my thread with that homo shit. The topic ain't even about dipset or your obsession with Lance Bass, it's about Jay-Z, someone that probably gets your panties wet.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: PLANT on July 27, 2006, 02:38:12 PM
lol im not the one with the pink t shirt on buddy
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 02:40:57 PM
First you tell me to take my shirt off and remove my belt. Then you put up pictures of Lance Bass. Somethin' you wanna tell us, Plant?

How many more kufis do I gotta smack up in DIPCC?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: rik on July 27, 2006, 02:41:52 PM
First you tell me to take my shirt off and remove my belt. Then you put up pictures of Lance Bass. Somethin' you wanna tell us, Plant?

How many more kufis do I gotta smack up in DIPCC?

LMAO...+1
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: PLANT on July 27, 2006, 02:48:11 PM
First you tell me to take my shirt off and remove my belt. Then you put up pictures of Lance Bass. Somethin' you wanna tell us, Plant?

How many more kufis do I gotta smack up in DIPCC?
I just cant take you serious when you're wearing a pink shirt and have pink shit all in your sig........I dont think Ive ever taken you seriously tho, you just seem to play these phony rolls week to week on the dubcc....who knows, maybe you really are a fag....plus, you think Camron is better than Jay Z and that right there tells me you have something wrong with you. :camp:  go ahead and smack me up behind your screen do whatever makes you feel better man and keep dreaming about your dipcc
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 27, 2006, 03:02:17 PM
LMAO...I've heard Cam, I used to listen to his shit in his Killa Cam days...The thing with him is that I could freestyle those lyrics and he doesn't exactly have the mic presence of Kurupt, and Kurupt is not exactly great nowadays either. Cam is weak, he's a fucking gimmick rapper, and to top it off, he has no significance. Dipset is what's wrong with Hip-Hop today...PeACe
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: PLANT on July 27, 2006, 03:08:18 PM
LMAO...I've heard Cam, I used to listen to his shit in his Killa Cam days...The thing with him is that I could freestyle those lyrics and he doesn't exactly have the mic presence of Kurupt, and Kurupt is not exactly great nowadays either. Cam is weak, he's a fucking gimmick rapper, and to top it off, he has no significance. Dipset is what's wrong with Hip-Hop today...PeACe
exactly
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: suckaa free on July 27, 2006, 03:25:23 PM
fuck jay-z.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 27, 2006, 03:27:26 PM
First you tell me to take my shirt off and remove my belt. Then you put up pictures of Lance Bass. Somethin' you wanna tell us, Plant?

How many more kufis do I gotta smack up in DIPCC?
I just cant take you serious when you're wearing a pink shirt and have pink shit all in your sig........I dont think Ive ever taken you seriously tho, you just seem to play these phony rolls week to week on the dubcc....who knows, maybe you really are a fag....plus, you think Camron is better than Jay Z and that right there tells me you have something wrong with you. :camp:  go ahead and smack me up behind your screen do whatever makes you feel better man and keep dreaming about your dipcc

Look at what you just wrote about me.....I got you shook and you're not even a factor round here. Doggy, I don't even fuckin' care what you think of me. You don't even come up on the Kufi Smacka's radar. If you didn't try to talk shit, and I mean TRY, I wouldn't even know who you are.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: SGV on July 27, 2006, 03:28:36 PM
Cam has no significance? They are the new Wu Tang, business wise. They have deals at Def Jam, Warner Bros and Koch. All their projects do good numbers without crazy promo. They generally don't have the biggest producers, but they have very solid production. Their Mixtapes are still highly regarded amongst industry and street cats the same.

Cam has the qualities of a Big Daddy Kane, which is what people really like. He's not wowing you with metaphors and similies, but he always has something clever to say ("You don't like men? Me neither, what a kawinkidink"). Or his brags with that Harlem Swag people jock ("Let my muscle show, cuz I'm like Russel Crowe, Beautiful Mind, took his Bitch, Hustle Hoe!"). It's simple shit like that which is why people dig Cam and the Dips. Cam may not be the second coming of KRS-One, but he's already proved his worth in this game. Like I said, for Biggie and Big L to co-sign you, you have to be hot. 10 Years in the Game and dude is still a major factor without "selling out" or compromising his music.

As for Jigga, dude is a great song writer. He may not appeal to everyone, but his song writing is what captures you. His flow. His swagger. His presence. Just cuz he's not spitting some deep shit like a Nas or someone of that nature, doesn't mean he can't be a great emcee.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: rik on July 27, 2006, 03:54:12 PM
Cam has no significance? They are the new Wu Tang, business wise. They have deals at Def Jam, Warner Bros and Koch. All their projects do good numbers without crazy promo. They generally don't have the biggest producers, but they have very solid production. Their Mixtapes are still highly regarded amongst industry and street cats the same.

Cam has the qualities of a Big Daddy Kane, which is what people really like. He's not wowing you with metaphors and similies, but he always has something clever to say ("You don't like men? Me neither, what a kawinkidink"). Or his brags with that Harlem Swag people jock ("Let my muscle show, cuz I'm like Russel Crowe, Beautiful Mind, took his Bitch, Hustle Hoe!"). It's simple shit like that which is why people dig Cam and the Dips. Cam may not be the second coming of KRS-One, but he's already proved his worth in this game. Like I said, for Biggie and Big L to co-sign you, you have to be hot. 10 Years in the Game and dude is still a major factor without "selling out" or compromising his music.

As for Jigga, dude is a great song writer. He may not appeal to everyone, but his song writing is what captures you. His flow. His swagger. His presence. Just cuz he's not spitting some deep shit like a Nas or someone of that nature, doesn't mean he can't be a great emcee.

Nicely put.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 27, 2006, 04:00:54 PM
the whole camel thing is played out as hell too...i remember saying jay-z looked like a camel like 8 years ago....its no secret he is probably the ugliest guy in the rap game

its about as played out as the Pink thing...When was the last time Cam wore pink????? Show me something LUKEY  ::)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on July 27, 2006, 04:06:57 PM
Jay-Z is just an average rapper, but he's a great business man.

I mentioned this in the other thread, Jay-Z has no artistic integrity.  He's a businessman first, artist a distant second.  2pac dissed Jay-Z, everyone heard it on the Makevelli record, and then Jay jacked one of 2pac's rawest cuts ever "Me And My Girlfriend" (off the same album!) and made it into some bubble gum pop record with his hoe Beyonce.

Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: ac1386 on July 27, 2006, 08:14:18 PM
pac dissed everyone on that album... i swear to god dipset has you guys brainwashed. I just cant understand it, and im not even saying they suck or i hate them but you guys are crazy. It's one thing to say you prefer them or you enjoy their music but you guys talk like they are gods gift to the mic. Only a very select few emcees get that kind of respect and usually the majority or fans agree or can come to an understanding about them. You guys are a very small % or fans and you challange cam and dipset to everyone talkin all this shit when you are the only ones who agree or even show any love. And to top it off your down right childish and annoying about it.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on July 27, 2006, 08:28:36 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.



Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 27, 2006, 10:11:10 PM
pac dissed everyone on that album... i swear to god dipset has you guys brainwashed. I just cant understand it, and im not even saying they suck or i hate them but you guys are crazy. It's one thing to say you prefer them or you enjoy their music but you guys talk like they are gods gift to the mic. Only a very select few emcees get that kind of respect and usually the majority or fans agree or can come to an understanding about them. You guys are a very small % or fans and you challange cam and dipset to everyone talkin all this shit when you are the only ones who agree or even show any love. And to top it off your down right childish and annoying about it.

They are good on the mic, but man you just dont understand the MOVEMENT, its not something you can explain....... ;D
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: hempkside2 on July 28, 2006, 12:36:03 AM
50 is the king of NY, its clear

i dunno, jay-z would be considered the greatest if mainstream rap was your thing, hes very mainstream so the kids who listen to him and think its the truth

us educated ones know andre 3000 is the G.O.A.T
fif not mainstream!!!!im not a jay fan.but the nigga is one of the last real lyricist from the 93 era.....show some respect jip.and dont just let bullshit roll out your mouth dogg.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: WestCoasta on July 28, 2006, 12:41:40 AM
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated


Greater rapper alive, LMMFAO
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: hempkside2 on July 28, 2006, 12:42:23 AM
And I'm being real this time: camel shit and other remarks aside. Why is Jay held so highly among hip-hop fans? The guy is talented and all that, and I never understood why. Even when Jay first came out, and I was a young(er) buck, everyone was telling me Jay is the truth. I always thought he was alright. He's got one classic. Alot of the other stuff in his catalogue were trash except for his most recent stuff, IMO, but most people will tell you otherwise.

So please, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
I dont understand why you put titset up there so high,since we being real....on the real my nigga, why is that.cause from what i see,all of that dipset gimmick aint touching nothing J has done...and im not a j-z fan....i know they got beef,but lets keep this shit real and not one sided,thats not fair homie.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: mrceo on July 28, 2006, 01:38:42 AM
The reason Jay is my favorite rapper is because he excels in all aspects of rapping.  He has a sick flow, charisma, lyrics, mic ownership, and wordplay.  Yeah he didn't have the greatest topics to talk about earlier in his career but as his career went on (blueprint and on) he became better with it.  He is the blueprint (pun intended) of an ideal MC
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Adam Donnelly on July 28, 2006, 04:49:15 AM
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated



Word
Classics My arse
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Peacock on July 28, 2006, 04:53:37 AM
Pease, educate me. Why is Jay considered so great in hip hop?
We diggin' him, b. He's riggity raw.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: XaNdEr on July 28, 2006, 04:54:15 AM
I've always thought Jay-Z was ridiculously overrated



Word
Classics My arse
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: coola on July 28, 2006, 01:19:56 PM
Quote
Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?

same could be asked about camron, and dipset  :P
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Sweet & Tender Hooligan on July 28, 2006, 03:41:28 PM
Cam has no significance? They are the new Wu Tang, business wise. They have deals at Def Jam, Warner Bros and Koch. All their projects do good numbers without crazy promo. They generally don't have the biggest producers, but they have very solid production. Their Mixtapes are still highly regarded amongst industry and street cats the same.

Cam has the qualities of a Big Daddy Kane, which is what people really like. He's not wowing you with metaphors and similies, but he always has something clever to say ("You don't like men? Me neither, what a kawinkidink"). Or his brags with that Harlem Swag people jock ("Let my muscle show, cuz I'm like Russel Crowe, Beautiful Mind, took his Bitch, Hustle Hoe!"). It's simple shit like that which is why people dig Cam and the Dips. Cam may not be the second coming of KRS-One, but he's already proved his worth in this game. Like I said, for Biggie and Big L to co-sign you, you have to be hot. 10 Years in the Game and dude is still a major factor without "selling out" or compromising his music.

As for Jigga, dude is a great song writer. He may not appeal to everyone, but his song writing is what captures you. His flow. His swagger. His presence. Just cuz he's not spitting some deep shit like a Nas or someone of that nature, doesn't mean he can't be a great emcee.


I agree with the first part, Jay lost all of his swagger after Ether, was more of a "I just got fucked in my ass" hobble......
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on July 28, 2006, 06:15:14 PM
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated.  But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today.  Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 28, 2006, 10:42:01 PM
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated.  But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today.  Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.

word up..But he cant fuck with the DIPSET!  8)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 28, 2006, 10:47:19 PM
Jay has dumbed his shit down a lot, and yes, he's overrated.  But I'd still rather listen to him than lots of cats out today.  Way back in the day when he was with Jaz and rhyming in triplets and spittin mad crazy is when he was his best.

word up..But he cant fuck with the DIPSET!  8)

No One Can!
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: hempkside2 on July 29, 2006, 01:30:35 AM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


Im not arapper but i can aleast do a lil. better than that.........I love life, thats why im taking  yours-run up in ya crib and drink all ya coors ;)/im bout it and crazy like a bush administration-  I hitém4 they shit, now im chillen with da  nation/big hemp gets  head from a darkskin hatian- whoz popz is black,and momz  is full  asian :-*/never really like da way they look at me-whispering*I think he from the big dub,C ;)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 29, 2006, 02:48:00 AM
Killa Cam Still The Man!  8) DIPSET BITCH!
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 29, 2006, 09:35:01 AM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


Im not arapper but i can aleast do a lil. better than that.........I love life, thats why im taking  yours-run up in ya crib and drink all ya coors ;)/im bout it and crazy like a bush administration-  I hitém4 they shit, now im chillen with da  nation/big hemp gets  head from a darkskin hatian- whoz popz is black,and momz  is full  asian :-*/never really like da way they look at me-whispering*I think he from the big dub,C ;)


I dunno how, but you just made Cam look like  Rakim...
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on July 29, 2006, 04:02:05 PM
You could never run out of dope lyrics from Camron dude has 5 albums full of straight heat. plus a gang of mixtapes
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 30, 2006, 02:35:16 AM
You could never run out of dope lyrics from Camron dude has 5 albums full of straight heat. plus a gang of mixtapes
the man has a point! +1 for the DIPSET!  8)
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 30, 2006, 02:37:20 AM
Jay-Z is great... but he is still overrated
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 30, 2006, 03:11:07 AM
Jay-Z is great... but he is still overrated
define overrated?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Oklin on July 30, 2006, 03:14:47 AM
Jay-Z is great... but he is still overrated
define overrated?

people think he is better than he really is
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: hempkside2 on July 30, 2006, 01:02:03 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


Im not arapper but i can aleast do a lil. better than that.........I love life, thats why im taking  yours-run up in ya crib and drink all ya coors ;)/im bout it and crazy like a bush administration-  I hitém4 they shit, now im chillen with da  nation/big hemp gets  head from a darkskin hatian- whoz popz is black,and momz  is full  asian :-*/never really like da way they look at me-whispering*I think he from the big dub,C ;)


I dunno how, but you just made Cam look like  Rakim...
Comeing from a full blown hata 8)u crazy!!cam cant fuck with the 1st line i spit...be real,and stop drinking that hataraid. :D
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 30, 2006, 02:28:15 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


Im not arapper but i can aleast do a lil. better than that.........I love life, thats why im taking  yours-run up in ya crib and drink all ya coors ;)/im bout it and crazy like a bush administration-  I hitém4 they shit, now im chillen with da  nation/big hemp gets  head from a darkskin hatian- whoz popz is black,and momz  is full  asian :-*/never really like da way they look at me-whispering*I think he from the big dub,C ;)


I dunno how, but you just made Cam look like  Rakim...
Comeing from a full blown hata 8)u crazy!!cam cant fuck with the 1st line i spit...be real,and stop drinking that hataraid. :D


Do you just pretend to speak english?
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: hempkside2 on July 30, 2006, 03:03:24 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


Im not arapper but i can aleast do a lil. better than that.........I love life, thats why im taking  yours-run up in ya crib and drink all ya coors ;)/im bout it and crazy like a bush administration-  I hitém4 they shit, now im chillen with da  nation/big hemp gets  head from a darkskin hatian- whoz popz is black,and momz  is full  asian :-*/never really like da way they look at me-whispering*I think he from the big dub,C ;)


I dunno how, but you just made Cam look like  Rakim...
Comeing from a full blown hata 8)u crazy!!cam cant fuck with the 1st line i spit...be real,and stop drinking that hataraid. :D


Do you just pretend to speak english?
No but me doggystyling ya moms is not an illusion. :laugh:
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 30, 2006, 04:40:15 PM
Cam'Ron > Nas, Jay-z, Jadakiss, Fabolous, Fat Joe, Ja Rule

Cam'Ron = King of NY
Cam has 2 classics,  "Purple Haze" and "Come Home With me"
while "Killa Season" "S.D.E" and "Confession of Fire" were great to.

LOL, this is why nobody takes you Dipset dudes seriously.




Everything I said is accurate, Its not like Im talking out of my ass.   Man forget the fact that Cam has worn pink before BIG DEAL!  The guy can flat out rap and he allergic to the word flop.

nobody said anything about cam wearing pink...cam can rap...but he can't write lyrics for shit

Maybe lately his lyrics have been a little lazy I can admit that, but dude still is tops when it comes to punchlines and wordplay

see again we differ....personally i think cam is one of the worst as far as punch lines and word play...and he always has been...even on his earlier albums his lyrics were weak...they just weren't jibberish back then...now he's just spitting flat out bullshit

whatever doggie its all opinions.  

"We destroy {niggaz}, need advice, cause I heard em sayin Jesus Christ
You should see the sight, cookin ox-tail, peas and rice
Makin about a G a night, they can't read or write
But I got every creed and type, you need a dyke, babygirl I see the light
But sometime y'all get crimey crimey, grimy grimy
But those with a tiny hiney they get whiny whiny
So guard your girl, Harlem World, cock the gun, pop it son
Fila fam, illa players, Killa Cam is still the man"


Killa, yo, these girls told you I'm the man right? (right?)
Well listen to lover
When I beef, visions are gutter
Kids clapping, kidnappings, heard her missing a brother
I'm hitting your sister, you kissing your mother
The shit is disguster
Underground with people, lethal, trapped in the desert, surrounded by evil
Yeah, I see your bitch is impressed, my kicks is all fresh
This shit on my chest, by Mitchell and S.
I got her opened, hoping she's not, I'd have her crack in her tits, coke in her twat
Have her crack up the strip, coke up the block
She'd get cracked up and hit, keep soaping your cycle mami
My girls lay up in suites, a half of cake of week, and masturbate like Tweet
Killa, I be popping the oozies, copping them Coogis, eyes on the drop real droopy
Mair is snoopy, look at your hooptie, rocking the rubies
Hop in the hoochie, popping her coochie
Chill while I'm chasing millions
I'm a baller that would merk you like Jason Williams (uh Huh)
Don't play with villas', vacate the building
Or the eights will come and rape your children
Yeah, it's a kilo to a milligram
I'm still the man, word to Killa Cam (Killa Cam)


Now I was in the boogie down getting some ass
I got a beep from my block, had to split so I dashed
And the Killah ain't been around the way for two days
I called my man 4-0 the green Grand from the ways
When I got to my block, if I wasn't in shock
Then I was cause I found out my cousin got shot
They said yo "It was concerning, the germans, they came through
blazing, and burning, left Blood squirming
A line blast out, but he got his ass out
Then Capone came in the Grand and drove him to the stash house"
Now I run into the house with the tool in my hand
Tried to do in my man, fucking ruined our plan
When I get in the first, tears start to burst
Cause I see a trail of blood thinking the worst
Flowers, casket, hearse, but nah, all I seen was his left leg split
Dude Capone working on him with the First Aid kit
And they told me the scoop on this wild ass please
It was just a graze, in and out his leg
But they came through dead nasty, it was Fred Blassie
Crew shot shit up quick and then fled fastly
Now I'm thinking - over dough or dice?
Come to find out this is all about his hoeing ass wife
And niggaz always pulling guns quick over some chick
Motherfucker that's that some dumb shit, but yo this ain't done with
Cause lifestyle, quite foul, lord ? to my sight now
Turn them germans into ashes Harlem Night style
And that's how it goes when you dealing with stranglers
Girls, the misters and haters, felons biscuits and bangers


Im not arapper but i can aleast do a lil. better than that.........I love life, thats why im taking  yours-run up in ya crib and drink all ya coors ;)/im bout it and crazy like a bush administration-  I hitém4 they shit, now im chillen with da  nation/big hemp gets  head from a darkskin hatian- whoz popz is black,and momz  is full  asian :-*/never really like da way they look at me-whispering*I think he from the big dub,C ;)


I dunno how, but you just made Cam look like  Rakim...
Comeing from a full blown hata 8)u crazy!!cam cant fuck with the 1st line i spit...be real,and stop drinking that hataraid. :D


Do you just pretend to speak english?
No but me doggystyling ya moms is not an illusion. :laugh:



You're right...it's a sick fantasy...The reality is that you're an 11 year old white virgin.
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: "THE" MoSav on July 30, 2006, 08:48:27 PM
^^^^^^END THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Why do people have such a hard-on for Jay-Z?
Post by: WestCoasta on July 30, 2006, 09:10:05 PM
NIK, I thought you were smart enough to spot an alias when one comes along...