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Title: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent?
Post by: Real American on August 18, 2006, 03:45:43 PM
What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Machiavelli on August 18, 2006, 05:07:10 PM
yeah, def
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on August 18, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
I was gonna go with the first one but couldn't resist not to go with the last one
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Sparegeez on August 18, 2006, 05:21:16 PM
Fuck yeah. I'm not being racist, I'm just being safe.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 18, 2006, 06:30:59 PM
Fuck yeah. I'm not being racist, I'm just being safe.


No, I am middle-eastern and I need to sneak weed past security... ;D
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: J Bananas on August 18, 2006, 06:49:43 PM
hell yeah, crabby liberals bent on acting morally superior don't have the right to weasel public protectors out of doing their job just because it crosses some bullshit line on what's "politically correct", i'd be all up in there puttin families on the ground, pressin my glock to a 9 year old if i have to just to show the world we dont bend over for terrorists simply because they are fighting a religious war.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Javier on August 18, 2006, 07:02:22 PM
and then people will be shocked when a blond hair, blue eyed american turned extremist commits an act of terrorism.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 07:06:04 PM

You have just said it, you dumb idiots think its you against them, when the scenario that javil just mentioned happens you will be the ones treated like slaves like pieces of shit. You will be the ones having to cower in constant fear.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: J Bananas on August 18, 2006, 07:10:24 PM
^u mad? dude we know there will be caucasian terrorists remember john walker lind, thats why people like me will report people like bryan to the fbi in the near future.....and im sorry to be so close minded, it just so happens that 100% of terror suspects who actually pose a threat in the past 6 years have been fighting for islam, you just wanna argue don't you?  :'(
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 07:12:08 PM

lol "report people like bryan to the fbi" it becomes illegal to think beyond a certain point does it, "they hate our freedoms" come on man how much more bullshit cliches are you going to fall for. Or do you want to bring it back to the good old days of the stasi in east berlin and the informant rings of the USSR. You know states which people from a genuinely free world used to despise.  ::)
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Real American on August 18, 2006, 07:16:24 PM
and then people will be shocked when a blond hair, blue eyed american turned extremist commits an act of terrorism.

Profiling Middle eastern people doesn't mean ignoring everybody else, it just means putting greater scrutiny on those people on people more likely to be terrorists.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 07:20:55 PM

Under the guise of safety it is now becoming morally acceptable to bring back racial profiling lol, perhaps everyone should be body searched to, maybe little children should be body searched, maybe those who look shifty should be interrogated and tortured. Maybe those who refuse to be body searched should be locked up. Maybe those people who hate the government should be branded terrorists and locked away indefinitely in those wonderful newly built internment camps. I guess that is freedom after all, the freedom to treat everyone like objects which can be disposed of whenever they wish them to be.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Javier on August 18, 2006, 07:22:25 PM

Under the guise of safety it is now becoming morally acceptable to bring back racial profiling lol, perhaps everyone should be body searched to, maybe little children should be body searched, maybe those who look shifty should be interrogated and tortured. Maybe those who refuse to be body searched should be locked up. Maybe those people who hate the government should be branded terrorists and locked away indefinitely in those wonderful newly built internment camps. I guess that is freedom after all, the freedom to treat everyone like objects which can be disposed of whenever they wish them to be.

I'm so scared though, we just gotta be safe!  :-[
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent?
Post by: Real American on August 18, 2006, 07:23:48 PM
Well you are a Muslim, you would probably prefer there was no security checks at all like there was pre 9/11.

The point is, under the current system we have 80 year old white grandmas being checked by airport security in the fight against Islamic terror. Only a moron like Virtuoso would think that makes any kind of sense.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Javier on August 18, 2006, 07:25:03 PM
The point is, under the current system we have 80 year old white grandmas being checked by airport security in the fight against Islamic terror. Only a moron like Virtuoso would think that makes any kind of sense.

You still want that though. 

"Profiling Middle eastern people doesn't mean ignoring everybody else,"
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 07:27:13 PM

he doesnt even realise that he is contradicting himself because he is so thoroughly brainwashed only a moron like you would be able to contradict themselves so effortlessly.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: J Bananas on August 18, 2006, 07:27:55 PM

lol "report people like bryan to the fbi" it becomes illegal to think beyond a certain point does it, "they hate our freedoms" come on man how much more bullshit cliches are you going to fall for. Or do you want to bring it back to the good old days of the stasi in east berlin and the informant rings of the USSR. You know states which people from a genuinely free world used to despise.  ::)

you know whats really funny? i went to public school in cali so i dont even know who the fuck stasi is!!! and i dont fall for any prescribed bullshit, if you ever catch me saying "they hate our freedoms" it's because i find it laughable but i know that certain people get pissy about it  ;), dont worry about me man, worry about yourself. i just want a decent society that is safe where common sense reigns supreme. of course thats nearly impossible these days thanks to hurt people who feel like they gotta project their personal hang ups into politics and current affairs, but you know all about that. stop resisting me!
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Real American on August 18, 2006, 07:30:02 PM


"Profiling Middle eastern people doesn't mean ignoring everybody else,"

I want to use common sense. 80 year old grandmas are not going to blow up a plane so why waste time searching their bags?.

For some reason idiots like Virtuoso and Javi think that security should treat them as just a big as threat as some 20 year old Arab named Kareem Mohhamed Abdul Ali Jabbar. Stop with the dumbed down thinking.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Javier on August 18, 2006, 07:33:49 PM


"Profiling Middle eastern people doesn't mean ignoring everybody else,"

I want to use common sense. 80 year old grandmas are not going to blow up a plane so why waste time searching their bags?.

For some reason idiots like Virtuoso and Javi think that security should treat them as just a big as threat as some 20 year old Arab named Kareem Mohhamed Abdul Ali Jabbar. Stop with the dumbed down thinking.

I pity idiots like yourself who don't get it. 
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Real American on August 18, 2006, 07:35:09 PM

I pity idiots like yourself who don't get it. 

Serious question: is an 80 year old white grandma as likely to be a terrorist as a 20 year old Arab named Mohhamed Abdul Tariq Azziz Jabbar?

Yes or no?
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 07:37:37 PM

Lol you are so incredibly dumb I have already pointed out to you who in this dumbed down scare mongering climate an attack by a white person would lead to everything i mentioned above and whats more you would go along with it because your a complete coward. Your the fool who thinks the terrorists are trying to take your freedoms from you when its the patriotic act and its all wonderful extensions to that which are taking away your freedoms. I swear you have an inbuilt relay button in your head which keeps repeating terrorism terrorism terrorism whenever you have an indepndent thought. So then you quickly disregard the independent questioning thought and then business as usual.

As for you J Bananas Stasi isnt a person, it was the domestic intelligence arm of the communist run east germany. However for the most part you are sort of tongue in cheek i dont have anything against you, you just come out with some stuff though, some makes me laugh some just leaves me completely bemused.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: J Bananas on August 18, 2006, 07:44:29 PM
^cool, but i gotta know, fundamentally what do you think about cwalkers question there?
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Javier on August 18, 2006, 07:47:42 PM

I pity idiots like yourself who don't get it. 

Serious question: is an 80 year old white grandma as likely to be a terrorist as a 20 year old Arab named Mohhamed Abdul Tariq Azziz Jabbar?

Yes or no?

With the way you wants thing to be done, my scenario can still happen.  If that were to happen, you would want every single fucking human to be throroughly checked. 


You see Fake American, you said you still want random searching as long as it doesn't include 80 year old women. Let's make it easier for you to see

These people are free from being checked...
-Kids 12 and Under
-Adults 65 and Over

Who should be checked automatically
-All Muslims
-Anyone from the Middle East

Random Check Everybody Else
-Whoa  :o  a blond hair, blue eye american turned extremist can be lucky and not get searched!  Commits an act of terror, and then what are you gonna want?  Yep, get rid of random checking everyone else and just check every single teen to 65 year old adult. 
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: J Bananas on August 18, 2006, 07:49:27 PM
I knew this guy would have long ass dodgy answer
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Javier on August 18, 2006, 07:50:58 PM
I knew this guy would have long ass dodgy answer

His question was stupid to begin with because he somehow forgets what he said before. 
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 07:53:05 PM
which part? if your asking about searching an old white woman as opposed to a young arab, neither of them should be searched fundamentally no one has the right to be harassed and have their human rights violated without probable cause. Do you think it would have been acceptable if the british government had rounded up all irish people, harassed and body searched irish people just because there were irish people involved national movements/terrorist groups? god no how can you do that to innocent people? the only effect that such draconian measures have is to sow seeds of hate which weren't present prior to that. Once sewn then they can manifest themselves and the radicalisation of young people then multiplies and multiplies.

Of course in this climate, where people are all to willing to see their freedoms be trampled on in the name of security, as soon as a white person did carry out an act of terror, then you would see not just muslims but everybody being treated like a piece of shit regardless of age regardless of race and gender. You have to realise when you accept these draconian measures, they are a stepping stone and once accepted you open up a pandoras box of problems.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent?
Post by: Real American on August 18, 2006, 08:01:56 PM
^^^^^
No one is talking about rounding anyone up. Seriously man, you are the king of exaggeration.

We are talking about security checks for people boarding airplane flights. And for your information, riding on an airplane isn't a fundamental right. So a minor security check such as looking at people's bags in the name of security isn't a violation of anyone's rights.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: virtuoso on August 18, 2006, 08:06:50 PM

I was talking about these measures in a broader context if you think it will stop at some bag searches you must be deluded. Why else has haliburton recently built those internment camps? or are you going to pretend they havent built them? are you going to pretend that John Ashcroft hasnt said that in the event of another terrorist attack the government will round up all muslims and place them in these internments camps? Come on now actually have some substance to your denials.  ::)
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: suckaa free on August 20, 2006, 01:44:07 AM
im 50% indo fijian, 25% fijian, and 25% black.   i have nothing to do with terriorst and the middle east but yet because i may resemble their apperance i have to be checked specially?  fuck racists.  they always tryin to catch me ridin dirty.   :grumpy: .... :)
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent?
Post by: Real American on August 20, 2006, 08:02:04 AM
It is interesting that most people on this board support profiling Muslims on planes. I have to admit that I am suprised.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent?
Post by: J @ M @ L on August 20, 2006, 10:12:10 AM
It is interesting that most people on this board support profiling Muslims on planes. I have to admit that I am suprised.

God damnit you fucking wienerschnitzel... if you refuse to learn our language, then get the fuck out of our country, you fucking Polish son of a bitch.
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: Machiavelli on August 20, 2006, 10:55:54 AM
People who dont believe racial profiling works are fucking morons that just want to be "politcally correct"...
Title: Re: Should airports begin profiling Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent
Post by: J Bananas on August 20, 2006, 11:53:43 AM
Well Real American, the numbers speak for themselves, you might as well lock this thread and let the pc debate club nerds fume in anger