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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Real American on September 15, 2006, 05:04:41 PM
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What a bunch of oversensitive pussies.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213930,00.html
Religious Leaders Across Mideast Rage Against Pope's Comments on Islam
ISTANBUL, Turkey Pakistan's legislature unanimously condemned Pope Benedict XVI. Lebanon's top Shiite cleric demanded an apology. And in Turkey, the ruling party likened the pontiff to Hitler and Mussolini and accused him of reviving the mentality of the Crusades.
Across the Islamic world Friday, Benedict's remarks on Islam and jihad in a speech in Germany unleashed a torrent of rage that many fear could burst into violent protests like those that followed publication of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.
By citing an obscure Medieval text that characterizes some of the teachings of Islam's founder as "evil and inhuman," Benedict inflamed Muslim passions and aggravated fears of a new outbreak of anti-Western protests.
The last outpouring of Islamic anger at the West came in February over the prophet cartoons first published in a Danish newspaper. The drawings sparked protests some of them deadly in almost every Muslim nation in the world.
Some experts said the perceived provocation by the spiritual leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics could leave even deeper scars.
"The declarations from the pope are more dangerous than the cartoons, because they come from the most important Christian authority in the world the cartoons just came from an artist," said Diaa Rashwan, an analyst in Cairo, Egypt, who studies Islamic militancy.
On Friday, Pakistan's parliament adopted a resolution condemning Benedict for making what it called "derogatory" comments about Islam, and seeking an apology. Hours later, the Pakistani Foreign Ministry summoned the Vatican's ambassador to express regret over the pope's remarks Tuesday.
Notably, the strongest denunciations came from Turkey a moderate democracy seeking European Union membership where Benedict is scheduled to visit in November as his first trip as pope to a Muslim country.
Salih Kapusuz, deputy leader of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's Islamic-rooted party, said Benedict's remarks were either "the result of pitiful ignorance" about Islam and its prophet or, worse, a deliberate distortion.
"He has a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages. He is a poor thing that has not benefited from the spirit of reform in the Christian world," Kapusuz told Turkish state media. "It looks like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades."
"Benedict, the author of such unfortunate and insolent remarks, is going down in history for his words," Kapusuz added. "He is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Hitler and Mussolini."
Even Turkey's staunchly pro-secular opposition party demanded the pope apologize before his visit. Another party led a demonstration outside Ankara's largest mosque, and a group of about 50 people placed a black wreath outside the Vatican's diplomatic mission.
Vatican spokesman Federico Lombardi has tried to defuse anger, saying the pope did not intend to offend Muslim sensibilities and insisting Benedict respects Islam. In Pakistan, the Vatican envoy voiced regret at "the hurt caused to Muslims."
But Muslim leaders said outreach efforts by papal emissaries were not enough.
"We do not accept the apology through Vatican channels ... and ask him (Benedict) to offer a personal apology not through his officials," Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanon's most senior Shiite cleric, told worshippers in Beirut.
Rashwan, the analyst, feared the official condemnations could be followed by widespread popular protests. Already there had been scattered demonstrations in several Muslim countries.
"What we have right now are public reactions to the pope's comments from political and religious figures, but I'm not optimistic concerning the reaction from the general public, especially since we have no correction from the Vatican," Rashwan said.
About 2,000 Palestinians angrily protested Friday night in Gaza City. Earlier, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, of the Islamic militant group Hamas, said the pope had offended Muslims everywhere.
The pope quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th-century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.
"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," Benedict said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."'
The pope did not explicitly agree with nor repudiate the comment.
In Britain, the head of the Muslim Council, a body representing 400 Muslim groups, said the emperor's views quoted by the pope were bigoted.
"One would expect a religious leader such as the pope to act and speak with responsibility and repudiate the Byzantine emperor's views in the interests of truth and harmonious relations between the followers of Islam and Catholicism," said Muhammad Abdul Bari, the council's secretary-general.
Many Muslims accused Benedict of seeking to promote Judeo-Christian dominance over Islam.
Even Iraq's often divided Shiite and Sunni Arabs found unity in their anger over the remarks, with clerics from both communities criticizing Benedict.
"The pope and Vatican proved to be Zionists and that they are far from Christianity, which does not differ from Islam. Both religions call for forgiveness, love and brotherhood," Shiite cleric Sheik Abdul-Kareem al-Ghazi said during a sermon in Iraq's second-largest city, Basra.
Few in Turkey, especially, failed to pick up on Benedict's reference to Istanbul as Constantinople the city's name more than 500 years ago before it was conquered by Muslim Ottoman Turks.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel defended the German-born pope, saying his message had been misunderstood.
"It is an invitation to dialogue between religions and the pope has explicitly urged this dialogue, which I also endorse and see as urgently necessary," she said Friday. "What Benedict XVI makes clear is a decisive and uncompromising rejection of any use of violence in the name of religion."
In the United States, a Muslim group, the Council for American-Islamic Relations, asked for a meeting with a Vatican representative and urged more efforts at improving understanding between Muslims and Catholics.
"The proper response to the pope's inaccurate and divisive remarks is for Muslims and Catholics worldwide to increase dialogue and outreach efforts aimed at building better relations between Christianity and Islam," the group said.
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first pic is funny...lmao ;D
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well you got to look at it this way.....if your ball sack looked like snoop dogg's afro ...you'd be a little on edge all the time as well
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well you got to look at it this way.....if your ball sack looked like snoop dogg's afro ...you'd be a little on edge all the time as well
true...
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i never liked this benedict character
looks like the fuckin devil himself
now john paul, thats a popes pope right there
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he reminds me of the hitman in godfather part 3 i don't know why they don't look that alike
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I don't check for news offline because 90% of them are pissing me off because the world sucks, so, I gotta know WHAT THE FUCK did he say that's getting everybody so worked up suddenly?
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why don't u read the article?
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they do this everytime, seirously
why dont they have jobs, and surley it costs alot of money to burn all those flags they burn?
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why don't u read the article?
"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," Benedict said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."'
is that it? I was hoping maybe someone can put this into context.
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Your such a fake fuck, real american my ass, you are obsessed with shining the spotlight on muslims yet ignore the reports showing that thousands of rescue workers at ground zero were exposed to deadly toxins. Thousands of them now have contracted terrible cancers, coughing up buckets of blood and mucus and rapidly dying. Not only that but the press have reported that the EPA reports were falsified and that people could return to their homes a week after the events despite the government knowing full well that there were massively high levels of asbestos. But despite all of this the government is just so good and really cares ::)
As for these muslims, I find it mystifying that you can criticise lambast and label muslims whatever the hell you want and that its almost made a joke of, yet you say anything about the jews, or perceive to say anything about the jews, then you will be villified and have the media and Anti Defamation League claiming your an evil nazi that hates all jews. It't not just judaism, you never see people constantly goading the hindus or seikhs and yet it's acceptable to do this to muslims. Could this have anything to do with stirring up anger against muslims, by constantly provoking them, so that the average dumbed down fox inspired listener i.e. the real american sort, will sort waving his arms around and saying see i told you these people are evil. We need to stop this evil and spread our goodness to this part of the world. I also find it disturbing that you ignore the religious nut cases in america who are far more dangerous to your "freedom" than any muslim is!
Before trying to retort that its free speech, I could care less about offending a religion its the hypocrisy and double standards which troubles me the most. The attempts and the motives behind stirring up the muslims is just so transparent that it really does take immense stupidity not to see through it, which is where real american comes in, your country is proud of you!
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lol @ muslims, especially dude in first pic, theyre unpleasent to look at
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lol @ muslims, especially dude in first pic, theyre unpleasent to look at
I agree, they are ugly as hell. Maybe that explains alot of their anger.
By the way, some Palestinian Muslims just attacked a bunch of churches.
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no disrespect to muslism..but on the third pic..does that guy look like he's from male gigaloo movie? and the guy behind is funny..stick his tounge out like this: :P
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lol @ muslims, especially dude in first pic, theyre unpleasent to look at
not me
im a handsome fellow
ladies love cool tech
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(http://www.foxnews.com/images/223870/5_26_091506_pope_protest.jpg) :laugh:
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(http://www.foxnews.com/images/223870/5_26_091506_pope_protest.jpg) :laugh:
FIGHT THE POWER!!!
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(http://www.foxnews.com/images/223870/5_26_091506_pope_protest.jpg) :laugh:
cmon man, i know homeboy is hideous but dont act like i couldnt just upload a random episode of jerry springer and starting callin u white people ugly
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I want to know what these people do all day. They have too much time on their hands. We need to hurry up and put a few Mickey D's over there and teach them niggas how make a happy meal. It would at least keep their feeble minds occupied.
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Americans have been, and will continue to kill INNOCENT people.
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(http://www.foxnews.com/images/223870/5_26_091506_pope_protest.jpg) :laugh:
sum 1 photoshop this nigga LOL
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I dont approve of what those idiot muslims do, But to call them sensitive is going way too far when Americans are scared to death even when danger is no where near them. 9/11 was the worst and scariest thing that happened to AMericans while in the middle east they go through stuff like that for decades : /
Americans are so scary that you cant even speak your language without them calling FBI
LOL
Besides that its funny how people, like the idiot who started this thread, call the muslims who arent scared to die and fight with the little that they got pussies. But the Americans and Israelis who hide behind technology and money are brave soldiers ::)
Give me a break! looool
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Fox news? never trust the fox network for news
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whattup homies, i really wanna put a gun the real american's head, and pull the trigger repeatedly.
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whattup homies, i really wanna put a gun the real american's head, and pull the trigger repeatedly.
theres several posters here that really serve no purpose
elroy (unless ure in the main forum)
now i know (unless ure in the sports section)
real american (at all times)
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whattup homies, i really wanna put a gun the real american's head, and pull the trigger repeatedly.
Yea he's a bitch, i'd like to see him somewhere/anywhere in IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, LEBANON, SYRIA and see how much balls he got to say anything he can WRITE ON THIS FORUM.
He is a perfect POSTER BOY for bitch ass punk pussy americans who think by putting hormones in their food and taking steroid makes them strong ::)
They talk alot of shit without backing up....Look @ how they say they wanna do something to Iran...but they're stuck in deep shit in afghanistan and Iraq and those countries are SMALLER, POORER AND WEAKER than Iran. So tell me who the hell are they to oppose a threat??
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listen ^ man, a 5 year old child can formulate an opinion. A 2 year old can do something to insult you. It doesnt mean u should get upset and take it to heart. Understand theres fuckin idiots in this world, and the more u ignore them the better. its beneath you to adress people like polack.
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Yea he's a bitch, i'd like to see him somewhere/anywhere in IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, LEBANON, SYRIA and see how much balls he got to say anything he can WRITE ON THIS FORUM.
He is a perfect POSTER BOY for bitch ass punk pussy americans who think by putting hormones in their food and taking steroid makes them strong ::)
They talk alot of shit without backing up....Look @ how they say they wanna do something to Iran...but they're stuck in deep shit in afghanistan and Iraq and those countries are SMALLER, POORER AND WEAKER than Iran. So tell me who the hell are they to oppose a threat??
Why the hell would I want to go to one of your shitty Muslim countries? You Muslims don't even want to live there, so why would I?
You need to get the hell out of our country and go back to Iran.
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whattup homies, i really wanna put a gun the real american's head, and pull the trigger repeatedly.
Yea he's a bitch, i'd like to see him somewhere/anywhere in IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, LEBANON, SYRIA and see how much balls he got to say anything he can WRITE ON THIS FORUM.
He is a perfect POSTER BOY for bitch ass punk pussy americans who think by putting hormones in their food and taking steroid makes them strong ::)
They talk alot of shit without backing up....Look @ how they say they wanna do something to Iran...but they're stuck in deep shit in afghanistan and Iraq and those countries are SMALLER, POORER AND WEAKER than Iran. So tell me who the hell are they to oppose a threat??
u think too much of iran. iran is a little piece of shit. all it can be is the spark for a war in the future besides that it is nothing. The US pretty much already regulates the world they r posted up all over who ever it mayb that really controls them (illuminati,Gov, george bush, big brother)
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i just like the phrase 'ape shit'
haha
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i just like the phrase 'ape shit'
haha
ur sig is the shit
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a 5 year old child can formulate an opinion. A 2 year old can do something to insult you. It doesnt mean u should get upset and take it to heart. Understand theres fuckin idiots in this world, and the more u ignore them the better. its beneath you to adress people like polack.
YEA ur rite, there is no point of explaining2 idiots like that....They dont even know whats out there and they open they mouth LOOOL
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shuma irani hasten? salam, cheto reh?
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i dont want any terrorist dialogue going on in here damnit
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i just like the phrase 'ape shit'
haha
ur sig is the shit
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whattup homies, i really wanna put a gun the real american's head, and pull the trigger repeatedly.
Yea he's a bitch, i'd like to see him somewhere/anywhere in IRAN, IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, LEBANON, SYRIA and see how much balls he got to say anything he can WRITE ON THIS FORUM.
He is a perfect POSTER BOY for bitch ass punk pussy americans who think by putting hormones in their food and taking steroid makes them strong ::)
They talk alot of shit without backing up....Look @ how they say they wanna do something to Iran...but they're stuck in deep shit in afghanistan and Iraq and those countries are SMALLER, POORER AND WEAKER than Iran. So tell me who the hell are they to oppose a threat??
u think too much of iran. iran is a little piece of shit. all it can be is the spark for a war in the future besides that it is nothing. The US pretty much already regulates the world they r posted up all over who ever it mayb that really controls them (illuminati,Gov, george bush, big brother)
True ::)