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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Mo Z. Dizzle on September 29, 2006, 08:09:09 AM
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Perhaps taking a cue from Jay-Z and Nas, rappers DMX and Ja Rule have ended their long-running feud.
The two men engaged in a years-long beef after DMX accused Ja Rule of stealing his rap style, which he said emulated his coarse, husky voice.
According to WENN, the beef ended after DMX talked to Murder Inc's chief, Irv Gotti.
Gotti reportedly reached out to DMX while he was incarcerated and arranged a low-key meeting that included Ja Rule.
DMX expressed his initial reluctance to cooperate.
"Gotti came to me in jail and said I want to make peace with you and him," the rapper said. "I was like, 'Alright Gotti, let's do it. But I need five minutes in a room with your man. I got to put my hands on him.'"
Despite his request to fight, the men ended the conflict peacefully.
"Gotti sat down and we squashed it. I said he [Ja Rule] got to stop sounding like me."
In 2002, Ja Rule said that DMX was simply upset that his star status had risen considerably since the 90's.
"He can't f**k with me and its hurting him right now that I am bigger than him. I'm bigger than him and he's mad," Ja Rule said at the time. "The reason [for his jealous] is he is a b***h and that's what b****es do."
The Game, a rapper from Compton, Calif., admitted on New York's Power 105 that he recently ended his own feud with Ja Rule and was open to collaboration possibilities.
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6198
good to see rappers are ending some of their beefs and making some peace.
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the thing is Ja Rule doesn't have a career if he doesn't sing or SOUND LIKE DMX.
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the thing is Ja Rule doesn't have a career if he doesn't sing or SOUND LIKE DMX.
I don't think Ja Rule even has a career right now
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Neither of them have a career. DMX never had a problem with Ja emulating him when he was taking him on tour 7 years ago did he?
Despite all the bullshit I like Ja's albums up until Last Temptation (last one I heard).
Lol @ Game poppin' up.
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Neither of them have a career. DMX never had a problem with Ja emulating him when he was taking him on tour 7 years ago did he?
Despite all the bullshit I like Ja's albums up until Last Temptation (last one I heard).
Lol @ Game poppin' up.
take a listen to R.U.L.E. ; it had a few good songs on there
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Neither of them have a career. DMX never had a problem with Ja emulating him when he was taking him on tour 7 years ago did he?
Despite all the bullshit I like Ja's albums up until Last Temptation (last one I heard).
Lol @ Game poppin' up.
take a listen to R.U.L.E. ; it had a few good songs on there
yeah, LAst of the mohicans was a great track.
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that song with ja , x and jay-z was on some dope shit ! 2 bad it never worked out for them 3 to be a rapgroup
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Yeah, the three of them were hot shit together.
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I thought Ja Rule had just given up when it came to rapping. Lets be honest 50 ended his career.
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Rule can still spit...his last cd was pretty nice...I always liked him better then 50 even when they were beefing...Loose Change>>>>any Diss by aftermath
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I don't think Ja Rule even has a career right now
Neither does DMX, if his sales of "Year of the Dog, Again" are anything to go by.
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they always play "lord give me a sign" in the club. i cant help but scream and throw out rape threats to random females
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Rule can still spit...his last cd was pretty nice...I always liked him better then 50 even when they were beefing...Loose Change>>>>any Diss by aftermath
Real talk MoSav I think its Funny when people say 50 killed Ja , Ja murdered em all LOose Change was a better diss then any of 50's gabbage disses
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Real talk MoSav I think its Funny when people say 50 killed Ja , Ja murdered em all LOose Change was a better diss then any of 50's gabbage disses
You two are the only ones you think so, then.
50 may not have killed Ja...but Eminem and Busta sure did on "Hail Mary", and Dre's verse on Obie's "Shit Hits The Fan" was even more devastating. I mean, come on, how you gon fuck with, "And pussy, you're not Pac/I knew him/Pac was a real nigga/You just a fuckin insult to him"? That line alone probably did it, and Ja was weak enough already.
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50 hasn't ended Ja's career because he's made even worse tracks than Ja did. Maybe if he had kept making hard tracks instead of shit like Candy Shop Ja would have no chance but 50 has set it up for him to come back possibly even better than he was.
Lets face it, all Ja Rule's soft track are better than 50's.
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I don't think Ja Rule even has a career right now
Neither does DMX, if his sales of "Year of the Dog, Again" are anything to go by.
How many copies sold??
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Ja's career ain't dead. He still puttin' in work.
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LOL @ ppl saying ja killed aftermath on loose change....that shit wasnt even tight....only the ending where he talks about em's fam...just like bumpy said that dre line alone killed ja.....
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Lets face it, all Ja Rule's soft track are better than 50's.
I agree with you there. I gave a listen to Ja Rules greatest hits the other day and it sounded better than almost all shit released today so...
Plus Venni Vetti Vecci was rediculous as well.
chill
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I don't know about Loose Change, but Busta killed Ja on "Hail Mary".Nobody candeny that
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there were good disses from both sides
ppl don't want to listen to anything Murder Inc affiliated though so they won't some of the disses that came outta them.
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"R.U.L.E." was nice period (besides about 2 or 3 songs & the skits). I don't know why there's so much hate for Ja.
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""Gotti sat down and we squashed it. I said he [Ja Rule] got to stop sounding like me.""
That right there says the beef isn't squashed. You don't make peace with someone and throw dirt on them like that, whether it's true or not.
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How many copies sold??
According to last week's soundscan:
132 DMX YEAR OF THE DOG AGAIN 6,781 -19 8,376 257,282
50 hasn't ended Ja's career because he's made even worse tracks than Ja did. Maybe if he had kept making hard tracks instead of shit like Candy Shop Ja would have no chance but 50 has set it up for him to come back possibly even better than he was.
Lets face it, all Ja Rule's soft track are better than 50's.
Hell no...Ja's soft tracks are basically him trying to sing and sucking at it, and when he isn't, some terrible R&B bitch like Ashanti is. At least 50 sounds halfway decent singing hooks, plus (before Olivia), he didn't rely on R&B singers. And when Ja tried to sound hard and thuggish, it always came across as forced. Honestly, I agree with X that Ja did bite his style...when I first heard Ja on "Can I Get A...", my first impression was that he was a DMX clone. 50 at least had that slick hustler's charisma.
I agree that on some level, Ja was hated on unfairly...he wasn't any worse (and probably a little better) than 90% of the pop-thug rappers of the time. But when you're that popular, it's inevitable you're gonna become the poster boy for everything that's wrong with hip-hop, just as 50 himself is today.
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Real talk MoSav I think its Funny when people say 50 killed Ja , Ja murdered em all LOose Change was a better diss then any of 50's gabbage disses
You two are the only ones you think so, then.
50 may not have killed Ja...but Eminem and Busta sure did on "Hail Mary", and Dre's verse on Obie's "Shit Hits The Fan" was even more devastating. I mean, come on, how you gon fuck with, "And pussy, you're not Pac/I knew him/Pac was a real nigga/You just a fuckin insult to him"? That line alone probably did it, and Ja was weak enough already.
"Im talkin bout faggot ass gay Dre young, and Suge told me all about how you used to take trasnvestites home and occasionally wear thongs"
That line killed Dre.
"and you, ni99a amma send you mommy with strict orders from Gotti to hide the body"
When that made you look beat hits, your just like WOW.....And what u have 2 remember is Ja did it alone, his back was against the wall tryna battle the whole of gunit, d12, obie trice, eminem and Dre....He was never gon win the war but IMO he won the battle.
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Neither of them have a career. DMX never had a problem with Ja emulating him when he was taking him on tour 7 years ago did he?
Despite all the bullshit I like Ja's albums up until Last Temptation (last one I heard).
Lol @ Game poppin' up.
1st part of ur post was on point
2nd part totally ruined ur credibility
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"Im talkin bout faggot ass gay Dre young, and Suge told me all about how you used to take trasnvestites home and occasionally wear thongs"
That line killed Dre.
Taking Suge's word on that matter = No cred whatsoever.
How did Ja "kill" Dre if Dre's still got mo money and mo respect than Ja will ever have?
"and you, ni99a amma send you mommy with strict orders from Gotti to hide the body"
When that made you look beat hits, your just like WOW.....And what u have 2 remember is Ja did it alone, his back was against the wall tryna battle the whole of gunit, d12, obie trice, eminem and Dre....He was never gon win the war but IMO he won the battle.
It didn't make me do anything but shrug. Just about nothing Ja ever said in any of his disses is worthy of quotable status. On the other hand, lines like 50's "you sing for ho's and sound like the Cookie monster" and Busta's entire verse on "Hail mary" most definitely are.
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Ja ended his own career. He started making straight up bullshit, 50 just highlighted the fact.
But back onto the actual subject - good to see the beef ending peacefully altho most ppl prolly even forgot they had beef. :D
(http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/d/DMX/sq-ja-x-goin-down-uni.jpg)
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someone upload some of the diss tracks,what cd was loose change on again?
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"Gotti came to me in jail and said I want to make peace with you and him," the rapper said. "I was like, 'Alright Gotti, let's do it. But I need five minutes in a room with your man. I got to put my hands on him.'"
:camp:
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someone upload some of the diss tracks,what cd was loose change on again?
i don't think that made it on any CD; it was just a freestyle.
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They should elevate it if they were smart. Shoot eachother in the ass once and get some publicity.
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I've uploaded the Loose Change track as well as othersl you know where to find it.
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They should elevate it if they were smart. Shoot eachother in the ass once and get some publicity.
lol
good to see their making peace though, I think u'll find as a lot of these rappers age and mature they will make peace with their rivals from the past.
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Real talk MoSav I think its Funny when people say 50 killed Ja , Ja murdered em all LOose Change was a better diss then any of 50's gabbage disses
You two are the only ones you think so, then.
50 may not have killed Ja...but Eminem and Busta sure did on "Hail Mary", and Dre's verse on Obie's "Shit Hits The Fan" was even more devastating. I mean, come on, how you gon fuck with, "And pussy, you're not Pac/I knew him/Pac was a real nigga/You just a fuckin insult to him"? That line alone probably did it, and Ja was weak enough already.
Your an idiot homie 4 real That Hail Mary track was wack they not only took pac's beat but they also bit his lyrics. Obies track was def hot though I will give u that. Every1 knows Pac sayd Fuck Dre before he passed so Dre shouldnt even of said that line but the track was hot
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"Im talkin bout faggot ass gay Dre young, and Suge told me all about how you used to take trasnvestites home and occasionally wear thongs"
That line killed Dre.
Taking Suge's word on that matter = No cred whatsoever.
How did Ja "kill" Dre if Dre's still got mo money and mo respect than Ja will ever have?
"and you, ni99a amma send you mommy with strict orders from Gotti to hide the body"
When that made you look beat hits, your just like WOW.....And what u have 2 remember is Ja did it alone, his back was against the wall tryna battle the whole of gunit, d12, obie trice, eminem and Dre....He was never gon win the war but IMO he won the battle.
It didn't make me do anything but shrug. Just about nothing Ja ever said in any of his disses is worthy of quotable status. On the other hand, lines like 50's "you sing for ho's and sound like the Cookie monster" and Busta's entire verse on "Hail mary" most definitely are.
So nas didnt kill jay because he got more money? the lox, fat joe, nas and Game dint kill 50 coz he got more money? Its an expression, stop catching feelings.....
Loose change > > > Any ONE PERSON diss aimed at Ja.
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Real talk MoSav I think its Funny when people say 50 killed Ja , Ja murdered em all LOose Change was a better diss then any of 50's gabbage disses
You two are the only ones you think so, then.
50 may not have killed Ja...but Eminem and Busta sure did on "Hail Mary", and Dre's verse on Obie's "Shit Hits The Fan" was even more devastating. I mean, come on, how you gon fuck with, "And pussy, you're not Pac/I knew him/Pac was a real nigga/You just a fuckin insult to him"? That line alone probably did it, and Ja was weak enough already.
Your an idiot homie 4 real That Hail Mary track was wack they not only took pac's beat but they also bit his lyrics.
That was the whole point, its not like they were trying to pass it off like it was theirs and that no one had ever heard the Pac song.
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Your an idiot homie 4 real That Hail Mary track was wack they not only took pac's beat but they also bit his lyrics. Obies track was def hot though I will give u that. Every1 knows Pac sayd Fuck Dre before he passed so Dre shouldnt even of said that line but the track was hot
LOL, yeah, A Tribe Called DubCC pointed it out. The real idiot is YOU, fool. Apologize to the GOD for contradicting him.
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dre doesnt even write his own lyrics how the fuck did he kill him?
and eminem was crying like a lil baby when ja shutted him up.
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dre doesnt even write his own lyrics how the fuck did he kill him?
and eminem was crying like a lil baby when ja shutted him up.
Dre started writing his own lyrics long ago, except on some songs (such as "Still D.R.E."). Even if he hadn't written that line, the fact is that it was better than ANYTHING Ja ever came up with.
When did Ja shut up Eminem?
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what do you guys think of Fatal's line towards Eminem and 50 Cent; these ones specifically:
Rule' these niggas crazy, reppin' him without me
"A.I" ain't in tha click, believe they won't win without me
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You ain't a gangsta 'Em', this is gangsta shit
And "50" you ain't nuthin' but a gangsta bitch
"Pac'" would have never did no song with no wanksta snitch
He confusin' ya'll he ain't tha shit
Fatal for those who don't know was a member of the Outlawz
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dre doesnt even write his own lyrics how the fuck did he kill him?
and eminem was crying like a lil baby when ja shutted him up.
Dre started writing his own lyrics long ago, except on some songs (such as "Still D.R.E."). Even if he hadn't written that line, the fact is that it was better than ANYTHING Ja ever came up with.
When did Ja shut up Eminem?
what u thought Em won from ja? all he said was DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE ! even i can say that. ja murked him
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what do you guys think of Fatal's line towards Eminem and 50 Cent; these ones specifically:
Rule' these niggas crazy, reppin' him without me
"A.I" ain't in tha click, believe they won't win without me
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You ain't a gangsta 'Em', this is gangsta shit
And "50" you ain't nuthin' but a gangsta bitch
"Pac'" would have never did no song with no wanksta snitch
He confusin' ya'll he ain't tha shit
Fatal for those who don't know was a member of the Outlawz
Don't partonize me, son, I know who the fuck Fatal Hussein is. And like most of the Outlawz, he sucks.
The fact that Ja Rule was able to pay him to pretend he's down with him doesn't mean shit - that nigga probably ain't been eating in the years since Pac died, and the Outlawz often did things Pac told them not to do after he died, anyway. Em and 50 could've probably paid him twice as much to appear on a track with them and he would've said the same shit.
what u thought Em won from ja? all he said was DIE MOTHERFUCKER DIE ! even i can say that. ja murked him
You fuckin deaf, dun? Eminem spat an entire verse on "Hail Mary 2003" where he mocked Ja's attempts to be gangsta, and it was clever and biting, not lame and posturing like all of Ja's disses.
Jesus, get off Ja's dick already.
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im not on ja's dick, ur on em's son. ja murdererd him, im not even a fan of ja rule...
I guess ur deaf and u got some prejudices about ja man, stop bein a shady groupie.
hail mary 2003 is like one of the most fucking overrated diss tracks ever. only good verse was the one from busta.
but whatev all these rappers are wannabe 2pacs.
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im god nigga
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hail mary 2003 is like one of the most fucking overrated diss tracks ever. only good verse was the one from busta.
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what do you guys think of Fatal's line towards Eminem and 50 Cent; these ones specifically:
Rule' these niggas crazy, reppin' him without me
"A.I" ain't in tha click, believe they won't win without me
and
You ain't a gangsta 'Em', this is gangsta shit
And "50" you ain't nuthin' but a gangsta bitch
"Pac'" would have never did no song with no wanksta snitch
He confusin' ya'll he ain't tha shit
Fatal for those who don't know was a member of the Outlawz
Don't partonize me, son, I know who the fuck Fatal Hussein is. And like most of the Outlawz, he sucks.
The fact that Ja Rule was able to pay him to pretend he's down with him doesn't mean shit - that nigga probably ain't been eating in the years since Pac died, and the Outlawz often did things Pac told them not to do after he died, anyway. Em and 50 could've probably paid him twice as much to appear on a track with them and he would've said the same shit.
not here to patronize ppl; most ppl wouldn't know who he is; just because you and I know doesn't mean everybody does.
as for the Outlawz, well he left the group after Pac's death.
for Em/50 paying him off, wouldn't have happened since he was signed with Rap-A-Lot at that time and ppl know J. Pirnce had/has beef with 50 Cent.
and a big LMAO saying he sucks.
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IT FUNNY HOW DUDES GET HURT, CUZ THEY LOVE THE WHITE BOY, THE SNITCH, AND THE GAY MAN
THAT HAIL MARY SHIT WAS WACK, THEY ALL TOOK SHOTS AT JA SAYIN' HE BITIN' TO PAC. FUCKIN' 50 WENT AND BIT TWO VERSES TO DID HIM. JA WENT AT IT BY HIMSELF. DEF JAM HELD THEM BACK. DRE DON'T WRITE HE CAN'T EVER RELEASE DETOX. BUSTA'S FLOW WAS WACK. PERIOD.....
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im not on ja's dick, ur on em's son. ja murdererd him, im not even a fan of ja rule...
I guess ur deaf and u got some prejudices about ja man, stop bein a shady groupie.
hail mary 2003 is like one of the most fucking overrated diss tracks ever. only good verse was the one from busta.
but whatev all these rappers are wannabe 2pacs.
How can Ja have murdered them when his career is over and theirs aren't? And how can you even say ANY of Ja's lines are close to quotable?
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How can Ja have murdered them when his career is over and theirs aren't?
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
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dre doesnt even write his own lyrics how the fuck did he kill him?
and eminem was crying like a lil baby when ja shutted him up.
Dre started writing his own lyrics long ago, except on some songs (such as "Still D.R.E."). Even if he hadn't written that line, the fact is that it was better than ANYTHING Ja ever came up with.
When did Ja shut up Eminem?
Bottom line JA Rule was original with Loose Change and Hail Mary wasent Thats like me taken the ether song and dissin sum1 wit Nas lyrics twisted thats Fake Phonier then a 3dollar bill Just like you bumby I like Dre but your a fuckin Groupie Stan whutever you wanna call it
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^^^^ See, you are a dipshit. Under your logic, "Loose Change" isn't original either because Ja used Nas' "Made You Look" beat and even his rhyme scheme to diss 50 and Eminem.
But that's beside the point. "Hail Mary 2003" wasn't "biting" Pac because it was done that way deliberately; biting is when you try to pass someone's shit off as your own without giving the other artist credit. The point of the song was to use Ja's obsession with Pac to diss him...and they did that quite well.
Me a "Groupie Stan"? Nah, you're just a Gotti groupie.
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
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^^^^ See, you are a dipshit. Under your logic, "Loose Change" isn't original either because Ja used Nas' "Made You Look" beat and even his rhyme scheme to diss 50 and Eminem.
But that's beside the point. "Hail Mary 2003" wasn't "biting" Pac because it was done that way deliberately; biting is when you try to pass someone's shit off as your own without giving the other artist credit. The point of the song was to use Ja's obsession with Pac to diss him...and they did that quite well.
Me a "Groupie Stan"? Nah, you're just a Gotti groupie.
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
Gotti Who ???
Winner Eg2
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^^^^ Look at that, you didn't even try to refute my last point. You just declared yourself the winner. Pathetic white trash.
The GOD has won again...of course, that is how I became a GOD in the first place. Bow down before the Original Man.
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^^^^ Look at that, you didn't even try to refute my last point. You just declared yourself the winner. Pathetic white trash.
The GOD has won again...of course, that is how I became a GOD in the first place. Bow down before the Original Man.
Original man look at your name that aint your name eg2 iz my name im original and far from white trash your a piece of shit i aint even trippin on you Ja used a part of Nas made you look he didnt take the whole song and flip it ether way I think loose change is better u think 5-0 is better I aint gonna change your mind and you aint gonna change my mind leave it @ that FUCK Gotti I never brought em up ever You on the other hand are a Dre groupie and you have admited If Dre took a shit you would be tryn to convince me that its hot I know it and you know it. Dont make eg2 do like oh boy did danny tanner beCuz Ill fuck u up in sum b- ball all day LOL Game Over "Lumpy" Johnson
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The GOD has won again...of course, that is how I became a GOD in the first place. Bow down before the Original Man.
funny quote right here LOL....
btw ja rule lost the beef get over it...
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You fuckin deaf, dun ?
:D :laugh:
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To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
cough.
bottom line IS that ja rule won the battle lyricly, i can't help it that the once that buy albums are 14/15 year old former murder INC fanatics who turned into g-unit soldiers when they heard wanksta.
youre just viewing "murdered" as somethin in numbers, like someone gave the example before of NAS and Jay-Z... that doesn't make sence.
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Dre cant kill anyone on ANY diss cuz he doesnt write his own lyrics...Yeah he is richer and Ja's career is over, but LYRICALLY Ja gave it to Dre and company...Busta did diss Ja hard tho, but HE WROTE IT...Dre doesnt write shit, so his disses are irrelevant to me
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^^^^ See, you are a dipshit. Under your logic, "Loose Change" isn't original either because Ja used Nas' "Made You Look" beat and even his rhyme scheme to diss 50 and Eminem.
But that's beside the point. "Hail Mary 2003" wasn't "biting" Pac because it was done that way deliberately; biting is when you try to pass someone's shit off as your own without giving the other artist credit. The point of the song was to use Ja's obsession with Pac to diss him...and they did that quite well.
Me a "Groupie Stan"? Nah, you're just a Gotti groupie.
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
Gotti Who ???
Winner Eg2
Ja sold more records wit RULE than mobb deep, dmx and busta.
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^^^^ See, you are a dipshit. Under your logic, "Loose Change" isn't original either because Ja used Nas' "Made You Look" beat and even his rhyme scheme to diss 50 and Eminem.
But that's beside the point. "Hail Mary 2003" wasn't "biting" Pac because it was done that way deliberately; biting is when you try to pass someone's shit off as your own without giving the other artist credit. The point of the song was to use Ja's obsession with Pac to diss him...and they did that quite well.
Me a "Groupie Stan"? Nah, you're just a Gotti groupie.
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
Even if Ja's career was over, (which it ain't) it certainly wasn't the "outcome" after Hail Mary dropped.
You can't honestly believe that Eminem & co dropped Hail Mary on Ja's ass and he never recovered. lmao
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^^^^ See, you are a dipshit. Under your logic, "Loose Change" isn't original either because Ja used Nas' "Made You Look" beat and even his rhyme scheme to diss 50 and Eminem.
But that's beside the point. "Hail Mary 2003" wasn't "biting" Pac because it was done that way deliberately; biting is when you try to pass someone's shit off as your own without giving the other artist credit. The point of the song was to use Ja's obsession with Pac to diss him...and they did that quite well.
Me a "Groupie Stan"? Nah, you're just a Gotti groupie.
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
Even if Ja's career was over, (which it ain't) it certainly wasn't the "outcome" after Hail Mary dropped.
You can't honestly believe that Eminem & co dropped Hail Mary on Ja's ass and he never recovered. lmao
he never recovered
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^^^^ See, you are a dipshit. Under your logic, "Loose Change" isn't original either because Ja used Nas' "Made You Look" beat and even his rhyme scheme to diss 50 and Eminem.
But that's beside the point. "Hail Mary 2003" wasn't "biting" Pac because it was done that way deliberately; biting is when you try to pass someone's shit off as your own without giving the other artist credit. The point of the song was to use Ja's obsession with Pac to diss him...and they did that quite well.
Me a "Groupie Stan"? Nah, you're just a Gotti groupie.
To murder someone doesn't mean to end their career.
Someone can murder someone - doesn't neccessarily mean that they will end the other guy's career.
But when an end to an artist's career is the outcome, it's prolly a safe bet that that means they lost, and were thus "murdered" on wax.
Gotti Who ???
Winner Eg2
Ja sold more records wit RULE than mobb deep, dmx and busta.
true...but that was 2 years ago....i'd like to see him drop an album this year...bet u money he's gonna pull busta numbers or maybe less...
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^^all in due time; The Inc found a new home now so who knows when they'll release anything.
btw, anybody hear the DMX album; how was it?
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I JUST DOWNLOADED THE NEW ALBUM, ITS OKAY, HE AIN'T THE SAME...
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Original man look at your name that aint your name eg2 iz my name im original and far from white trash your a piece of shit i aint even trippin on you Ja used a part of Nas made you look he didnt take the whole song and flip it ether way
He borrowed parts of Nas' rhyme scheme. No different than what 50, Em, and Busta did with parts of Pac's rhyme scheme.
And as I've said before, fucking IRRELEVENT because it was intended that way. It's not biting when you're paying tribute. That by itself makes your argument useless.
You on the other hand are a Dre groupie and you have admited If Dre took a shit you would be tryn to convince me that its hot I know it and you know it.
I sure as hell ain't no Dre groupie, and I have never said any such thing. Prove it, wigger.
Dont make eg2 do like oh boy did danny tanner beCuz Ill fuck u up in sum b- ball all day LOL Game Over "Lumpy" Johnson
Game Over, devil. You can never defeat a GOD.
[cough.
bottom line IS that ja rule won the battle lyricly, i can't help it that the once that buy albums are 14/15 year old former murder INC fanatics who turned into g-unit soldiers when they heard wanksta.
youre just viewing "murdered" as somethin in numbers, like someone gave the example before of NAS and Jay-Z... that doesn't make sence.
No, Ja LOST lyrically because he is a shit rapper who can't do anything except try and sound tough. Lyrically, Ja is just as bad as any other mainstream rapper. 50 may be like that, but Em and Busta sure as hell ain't.
I was never an INC fanatic; I didn't particularly care for Ja from the first time I heard him. I liked "Holla Holla" and some of his other joints, but I generally thought of him as a DMX imitator, just as X himself has accused.
Murdered in numbers? Of course it happens. Why do you think rappers beef? Because they're trying to create publicity and raise their album sales. 50 Cent does the same thing, and ya'll complain about it (rightly so). So if a rapper's sales go down after a beef, then yeah, it's a safe bet his career has taken a hit from it. And let's face it - when Ja came out with an entire hardcore album attacking G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath ("Blood In My Eye"), it failed and nobody gave a fuck. It was only by getting back to his pop appeal with "RULE" that he gained a little more commercial success, and even then, he struggled to go Gold. There is no doubt that Ja fell off.
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you can never defeat a negro from the streets of maine nigga, he's been thru some shit
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you can never defeat a negro from the streets of maine nigga, he's been thru some shit
Pomona, CA or Durham, NC if you prefer. How much more you gon make up shit about me and then try to discredit me with it?
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Original man look at your name that aint your name eg2 iz my name im original and far from white trash your a piece of shit i aint even trippin on you Ja used a part of Nas made you look he didnt take the whole song and flip it ether way
He borrowed parts of Nas' rhyme scheme. No different than what 50, Em, and Busta did with parts of Pac's rhyme scheme.
And as I've said before, fucking IRRELEVENT because it was intended that way. It's not biting when you're paying tribute. That by itself makes your argument useless.
You on the other hand are a Dre groupie and you have admited If Dre took a shit you would be tryn to convince me that its hot I know it and you know it.
I sure as hell ain't no Dre groupie, and I have never said any such thing. Prove it, wigger.
Dont make eg2 do like oh boy did danny tanner beCuz Ill fuck u up in sum b- ball all day LOL Game Over "Lumpy" Johnson
Game Over, devil. You can never defeat a GOD.
[cough.
bottom line IS that ja rule won the battle lyricly, i can't help it that the once that buy albums are 14/15 year old former murder INC fanatics who turned into g-unit soldiers when they heard wanksta.
youre just viewing "murdered" as somethin in numbers, like someone gave the example before of NAS and Jay-Z... that doesn't make sence.
No, Ja LOST lyrically because he is a shit rapper who can't do anything except try and sound tough. Lyrically, Ja is just as bad as any other mainstream rapper. 50 may be like that, but Em and Busta sure as hell ain't.
I was never an INC fanatic; I didn't particularly care for Ja from the first time I heard him. I liked "Holla Holla" and some of his other joints, but I generally thought of him as a DMX imitator, just as X himself has accused.
Murdered in numbers? Of course it happens. Why do you think rappers beef? Because they're trying to create publicity and raise their album sales. 50 Cent does the same thing, and ya'll complain about it (rightly so). So if a rapper's sales go down after a beef, then yeah, it's a safe bet his career has taken a hit from it. And let's face it - when Ja came out with an entire hardcore album attacking G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath ("Blood In My Eye"), it failed and nobody gave a fuck. It was only by getting back to his pop appeal with "RULE" that he gained a little more commercial success, and even then, he struggled to go Gold. There is no doubt that Ja fell off.
Why you gotta keep this shit goin I told ya bitch azz I aint no wigger Keep speakin out ya ass you want proof that your a DRe Groupie here it is
Either Way the track was off the Chain . Any real hiphop fan would agree any Dr Dre groupie wouldnt .
Right, I'm a Dre groupie, but you're not a Death Row groupie, are ya?
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God LOL NOw What "Lumpy" Johnson you done cuz I been done
Winner eg2 gimmie my dap
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^^^^ LOL, you again quoted a place where I was being sarcastic, and yet you thought I was actually calling myself a Dre groupie! What a fuckin retard!
God damn, homie, you just keep ethering yourself, again and again. I probably should stop just cause you ain't worth it for that reason alone.
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Sarcastic Yup I'd say that too ^^^
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eg2 would u mind not trying to clown bumpy with a sarcastic quote plz, this is about discussing the oppionions about ja vs shady shiat.
btw, im just saying, ja's disses where more lyricly then those shady diss tracks. only once who could take on ja where obie and busta.
but ,his glory time was about to end anyways... he had a long run being on top of the mainstream hiphop scene anyways.
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eg2 would u mind not trying to clown bumpy with a sarcastic quote plz, this is about discussing the oppionions about ja vs shady shiat.
btw, im just saying, ja's disses where more lyricly then those shady diss tracks. only once who could take on ja where obie and busta.
but ,his glory time was about to end anyways... he had a long run being on top of the mainstream hiphop scene anyways.
All im sayn is I think in my opinion that Loose change was better thats it.This bitch wanna be gettin personel talkin shit callin me wigger fuck em I outta smack the black or white or whutever the fuck he is off em . WHy u speakin on this do you do Lumpy Johnson's laundry or sumthin . this dude is a Dre Groupie anytime any1 speaks on Dre he gets all but hurt like he know dude.
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Original man look at your name that aint your name eg2 iz my name im original and far from white trash your a piece of shit i aint even trippin on you Ja used a part of Nas made you look he didnt take the whole song and flip it ether way
He borrowed parts of Nas' rhyme scheme. No different than what 50, Em, and Busta did with parts of Pac's rhyme scheme.
And as I've said before, fucking IRRELEVENT because it was intended that way. It's not biting when you're paying tribute. That by itself makes your argument useless.
You on the other hand are a Dre groupie and you have admited If Dre took a shit you would be tryn to convince me that its hot I know it and you know it.
I sure as hell ain't no Dre groupie, and I have never said any such thing. Prove it, wigger.
Dont make eg2 do like oh boy did danny tanner beCuz Ill fuck u up in sum b- ball all day LOL Game Over "Lumpy" Johnson
Game Over, devil. You can never defeat a GOD.
[cough.
bottom line IS that ja rule won the battle lyricly, i can't help it that the once that buy albums are 14/15 year old former murder INC fanatics who turned into g-unit soldiers when they heard wanksta.
youre just viewing "murdered" as somethin in numbers, like someone gave the example before of NAS and Jay-Z... that doesn't make sence.
No, Ja LOST lyrically because he is a shit rapper who can't do anything except try and sound tough. Lyrically, Ja is just as bad as any other mainstream rapper. 50 may be like that, but Em and Busta sure as hell ain't.
I was never an INC fanatic; I didn't particularly care for Ja from the first time I heard him. I liked "Holla Holla" and some of his other joints, but I generally thought of him as a DMX imitator, just as X himself has accused.
Murdered in numbers? Of course it happens. Why do you think rappers beef? Because they're trying to create publicity and raise their album sales. 50 Cent does the same thing, and ya'll complain about it (rightly so). So if a rapper's sales go down after a beef, then yeah, it's a safe bet his career has taken a hit from it. And let's face it - when Ja came out with an entire hardcore album attacking G-Unit/Shady/Aftermath ("Blood In My Eye"), it failed and nobody gave a fuck. It was only by getting back to his pop appeal with "RULE" that he gained a little more commercial success, and even then, he struggled to go Gold. There is no doubt that Ja fell off.
"Pop Appeal"...You do realize he dropped "New York", as a single. A track solely aimed at the streets, when was the last time someone done that?. Even you cant fail to give Ja his props for that. I would love to see 50, Banks, Busta, Jigga, Mobb Deep etc etc drop a single like that nowadays, taking a huge risk cause Ja knew "wonderful" did well in the charts and could have followed it up with another Ashanti duet.
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eg2 would u mind not trying to clown bumpy with a sarcastic quote plz, this is about discussing the oppionions about ja vs shady shiat.
btw, im just saying, ja's disses where more lyricly then those shady diss tracks. only once who could take on ja where obie and busta.
but ,his glory time was about to end anyways... he had a long run being on top of the mainstream hiphop scene anyways.
All im sayn is I think in my opinion that Loose change was better thats it.This bitch wanna be gettin personel talkin shit callin me wigger fuck em I outta smack the black or white or whutever the fuck he is off em . WHy u speakin on this do you do Lumpy Johnson's laundry or sumthin . this dude is a Dre Groupie anytime any1 speaks on Dre he gets all but hurt like he know dude.
I know he's a shady groupie but well fuck him lol im right anyways, no point in discussing with this dumbfuck. Ja Rule >>>>> shady
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All im sayn is I think in my opinion that Loose change was better thats it.This bitch wanna be gettin personel talkin shit callin me wigger fuck em I outta smack the black or white or whutever the fuck he is off em . WHy u speakin on this do you do Lumpy Johnson's laundry or sumthin . this dude is a Dre Groupie anytime any1 speaks on Dre he gets all but hurt like he know dude.
It ain't personal; it's that (1.) You're retarded (just look at the way you type as proof), and (2.) NOBODY is allowed to contradict the GOD. No can do, son. When Blackman says something, you shut the fuck up and do not question him. Ever.
Please give me examples of where I've gotten butthurt over people speaking on Dre. I'm only amazed that anyone who calls themselves a hip-hop fan would be so stupid as think Ja Rule is better than 50, Em, Busta, or anyone else.
I know he's a shady groupie but well fuck him lol im right anyways, no point in discussing with this dumbfuck. Ja Rule >>>>> shady
Nope, WRONG. I'm right, end of story. Never contradict a GOD.
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I know he's a shady groupie but well fuck him lol im right anyways, no point in discussing with this dumbfuck. Ja Rule >>>>> shady
Nope, WRONG. I'm right, end of story. Never contradict a GOD.
a god right ::)
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^^^^ Yeah, son, I represent the Gods and Earths, the Poor Righteous Teachers. You know what it is.
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^^^^ Yeah, son, I represent the Gods and Earths, the Poor Righteous Teachers. You know what it is.
is that the name of ur institute ur kept in where they let you swollow special pills 20 x a day for ur fucked up brain ? :D
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All im sayn is I think in my opinion that Loose change was better thats it.This bitch wanna be gettin personel talkin shit callin me wigger fuck em I outta smack the black or white or whutever the fuck he is off em . WHy u speakin on this do you do Lumpy Johnson's laundry or sumthin . this dude is a Dre Groupie anytime any1 speaks on Dre he gets all but hurt like he know dude.
It ain't personal; it's that (1.) You're retarded (just look at the way you type as proof), and (2.) NOBODY is allowed to contradict the GOD. No can do, son. When Blackman says something, you shut the fuck up and do not question him. Ever.
Please give me examples of where I've gotten butthurt over people speaking on Dre. I'm only amazed that anyone who calls themselves a hip-hop fan would be so stupid as think Ja Rule is better than 50, Em, Busta, or anyone else.
I know he's a shady groupie but well fuck him lol im right anyways, no point in discussing with this dumbfuck. Ja Rule >>>>> shady
Nope, WRONG. I'm right, end of story. Never contradict a GOD.
Dogg your a bitch homie you taken this shit way 2 far Fuck you I dont care if you black or whutever Ill Slap the fuck outta ya .
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All im sayn is I think in my opinion that Loose change was better thats it.This bitch wanna be gettin personel talkin shit callin me wigger fuck em I outta smack the black or white or whutever the fuck he is off em . WHy u speakin on this do you do Lumpy Johnson's laundry or sumthin . this dude is a Dre Groupie anytime any1 speaks on Dre he gets all but hurt like he know dude.
It ain't personal; it's that (1.) You're retarded (just look at the way you type as proof), and (2.) NOBODY is allowed to contradict the GOD. No can do, son. When Blackman says something, you shut the fuck up and do not question him. Ever.
Please give me examples of where I've gotten butthurt over people speaking on Dre. I'm only amazed that anyone who calls themselves a hip-hop fan would be so stupid as think Ja Rule is better than 50, Em, Busta, or anyone else.
I know he's a shady groupie but well fuck him lol im right anyways, no point in discussing with this dumbfuck. Ja Rule >>>>> shady
Nope, WRONG. I'm right, end of story. Never contradict a GOD.
We could agrue all day homie no big thang but when you start disrespectin me then we got problems you know this is bullshit opinions but now you really speakin out ya ass Holla @ me God lets do this .
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I actually listened to all those songs posted on hookup spot, the only thing good out of all of that was Busta's verse on that hail mary and back down. The rest was quite forgettable and Ja Rule is absolutely horrible. He was horrible when he first dropped and he's horrible now.
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I actually listened to all those songs posted on hookup spot, the only thing good out of all of that was Busta's verse on that hail mary and back down. The rest was quite forgettable and Ja Rule is absolutely horrible. He was horrible when he first dropped and he's horrible now.
Thats all good homeboy this forum is Opinions thats how you feel its all good 8) 8) 8)
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is that the name of ur institute ur kept in where they let you swollow special pills 20 x a day for ur fucked up brain ? :D
Jesus, another suburban kid who's probably been listening to Wu Tang and Nas for years yet still has no clue what the Five-Percent Nation is?
Stupid white kid. Of course, this is coming from the same person who thinks Ja Rule is better than Em or Busta, so go figure...just goes to show that crackers know nothing about hip-hop.
Dogg your a bitch homie you taken this shit way 2 far Fuck you I dont care if you black or whutever Ill Slap the fuck outta ya .
Online? Have you white kids not yet figured out that on a message board, you can't do shit to me?
This is of course, why I am a GOD in the first place.
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is that the name of ur institute ur kept in where they let you swollow special pills 20 x a day for ur fucked up brain ? :D
Jesus, another suburban kid who's probably been listening to Wu Tang and Nas for years yet still has no clue what the Five-Percent Nation is?
Stupid white kid. Of course, this is coming from the same person who thinks Ja Rule is better than Em or Busta, so go figure...just goes to show that crackers know nothing about hip-hop.
sure just call me names to proof u know more about hiphop then me, oehhh im white :-[ FUCK well i guess its time to listen to country music and techno now cauz since im white i may not listen to hiphop since its for african-american ppl.
fu, for thinkin eminem is better then ja rule while lyricly ja murdererd him, and i said only one who owned ja was busta so wtf are u bitching about homeboy?
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sure just call me names to proof u know more about hiphop then me, oehhh im white
It's not just that you're white, it's just that you had NO CLUE what I was talking about when I mentioned the Poor Righteous Teachers. Anybody who calls themselves a hip-hop head would have known what I'm talking about (and most other cats on here do). It just goes to show that you've been hearing hip-hop, not listening to it.
fu, for thinkin eminem is better then ja rule while lyricly ja murdererd him, and i said only one who owned ja was busta so wtf are u bitching about homeboy?
Ja didn't murder him; Ja only embarrassed himself with a bunch of sub-par disses that prove why he fuckin SUCKS. The fact that you think so proves you are retarded and incapable of distinguishing between good and bad. Juronimo agrees with me...listen to Blackmen and shut the fuck up, white boy.
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sure just call me names to proof u know more about hiphop then me, oehhh im white
It's not just that you're white, it's just that you had NO CLUE what I was talking about when I mentioned the Poor Righteous Teachers. Anybody who calls themselves a hip-hop head would have known what I'm talking about (and most other cats on here do). It just goes to show that you've been hearing hip-hop, not listening to it.
fu, for thinkin eminem is better then ja rule while lyricly ja murdererd him, and i said only one who owned ja was busta so wtf are u bitching about homeboy?
Ja didn't murder him; Ja only embarrassed himself with a bunch of sub-par disses that prove why he fuckin SUCKS. The fact that you think so proves you are retarded and incapable of distinguishing between good and bad. Juronimo agrees with me...listen to Blackmen and shut the fuck up, white boy.
im sorry that i don't know the full 100% of hiphop, please forgive me oh great god bumper...
you shut the fuck up ffs, racist motherfucker. acting all butthurt over a discussion, BOOO HOOO go cry fool.
argh whatev ur jut another stupid I-AM-BLACK-AND-PROUD-OF-IT-SO-I-HATE-WHITE-MEN-FOR-NO-REASON-SHADY-4-LIFE fag.
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im sorry that i don't know the full 100% of hiphop, please forgive me oh great god bumper...
You should be sorry for not knowing one of the most important influences in all of hip-hop culture.
you shut the fuck up ffs, racist motherfucker. acting all butthurt over a discussion, BOOO HOOO go cry fool.
argh whatev ur jut another stupid I-AM-BLACK-AND-PROUD-OF-IT-SO-I-HATE-WHITE-MEN-FOR-NO-REASON-SHADY-4-LIFE fag.
If I'm so racist, why am I defending Eminem? That fag Arsonist or whoever his name is...he's the one who said we shouldn't be defending Em cause he's white.
But yes, I am still Black and proud. Bow down before the Original Man.
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is that the name of ur institute ur kept in where they let you swollow special pills 20 x a day for ur fucked up brain ? :D
Jesus, another suburban kid who's probably been listening to Wu Tang and Nas for years yet still has no clue what the Five-Percent Nation is?
Stupid white kid. Of course, this is coming from the same person who thinks Ja Rule is better than Em or Busta, so go figure...just goes to show that crackers know nothing about hip-hop.
Dogg your a bitch homie you taken this shit way 2 far Fuck you I dont care if you black or whutever Ill Slap the fuck outta ya .
Online? Have you white kids not yet figured out that on a message board, you can't do shit to me?
This is of course, why I am a GOD in the first place.
White kids LMAO white eg2 isnt
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Damn, this turned into a huge thread. Didnt actually read the whole thing but heres my thing on the whole Ja,50 thing:
Both very talented, better than most commercial rappers out now. But both of them, especially Ja, were getting dissed for making hit records. The funny thing is 99% of commercial rappers tried to do the exact same thing as they did but failed to do so. Ja and 50 pop songs (well, 50 only has like 4) were getting played 24/7 thats why people got sick of it.
The main difference with 50 and Jas singing is Jas voice. He has a raspy voice like Xzibit and Dmx and when he sings he sounds like a retard. 50 on the other hand has that laid back, lazy voice like Snoop or Kanye. It sound more melodic when 50 sings.
Both had a problem for getting dissed because of 3 pop songs on their 20 tracks cd (only Massacre for 50, more for Ja but we'll see how 50s next album turns out) but the truth is probably every commercial rapper has sung on a track, has made a pop track....
So to sum up, 50 & Ja>>>99% of commercial rappers.
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Damn, this turned into a huge thread. Didnt actually read the whole thing but heres my thing on the whole Ja,50 thing:
Both very talented, better than most commercial rappers out now. But both of them, especially Ja, were getting dissed for making hit records. The funny thing is 99% of commercial rappers tried to do the exact same thing as they did but failed to do so. Ja and 50 pop songs (well, 50 only has like 4) were getting played 24/7 thats why people got sick of it.
The main difference with 50 and Jas singing is Jas voice. He has a raspy voice like Xzibit and Dmx and when he sings he sounds like a retard. 50 on the other hand has that laid back, lazy voice like Snoop or Kanye. It sound more melodic when 50 sings.
Both had a problem for getting dissed because of 3 pop songs on their 20 tracks cd (only Massacre for 50, more for Ja but we'll see how 50s next album turns out) but the truth is probably every commercial rapper has sung on a track, has made a pop track....
So to sum up, 50 & Ja>>>99% of commercial rappers.
+1 Detox
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all of them suck and all of them fell off, end of discussion
thread closed
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