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Title: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 28, 2006, 02:56:33 PM
LW   TW   artist / album   label   power index   % change
--   1   JAY-Z   ROC-A-FELLA/IDJMG   708,485   --
KINGDOM COME
--   2   DAUGHTRY   RCA/RMG   301,089   --
DAUGHTRY
3   3   NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL...VOL.23   SONY LABEL GROUP   297,585   +58%
VARIOUS
--   4   BEATLES   APPLE/CAPITOL   279,939   --
LOVE
--   5   SNOOP DOGG   GEFFEN   274,065   --
THE BLUE CARPET TREATMENT
6   6   HANNAH MONTANA   WALT DISNEY RECORDS   168,385   +65%
SOUNDTRACK
15   7   JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE   JIVE/ZLG   166,611   +180%
FUTURE SEX/LOVE SOUNDS
5   8   KEITH URBAN   CAPITOL NASHVILLE   166,585   +61%
LOVE, PAIN & THE WHOLE CRAZY...
11   9   BEYONCE   COLUMBIA/SLG   165,974   +169%
B'DAY
--   10   2PAC   AMARU/INTERSCOPE   164,052   --
PAC'S LIFE
2   11   AKON   SRC/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN   162,480   -43%
KONVICTED
--   12   U2   INTERSCOPE   140,646   --
U218 SINGLES
1   13   THE GAME   GEFFEN   138,372   -63%
THE DOCTOR'S ADVOCATE
4   14   JOSH GROBAN   REPRISE   129,437   -13%
AWAKE
25   15   TONY BENNETT   RPM RECORDS/COLUMBIA   111,867   +162%
DUETS: AN AMERICAN CLASSIC
--   16   IL DIVO   COLUMBIA/SLG   106,817   --
SIEMPRE
--   17   RBD   EMI LATIN   103,593   --
CELESTIAL
14   18   CARRIE UNDERWOOD   ARISTA/RMG   101,392   +70%
SOME HEARTS
21   19   NICKELBACK   ROADRUNNER/IDJMG   99,946   +97%
ALL THE RIGHT REASONS
8   20   SUGARLAND   MERCURY NASHVILLE   91,509   +19%
ENJOY THE RIDE
10   21   HINDER   UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC   90,692   +45%
EXTREME BEHAVIOR
17   22   SARAH MCLACHLAN   ARISTA/RMG   90,286   +64%
WINTERSONG
26   23   NOW CHRISTMAS VOL.3   SONY LABEL GROUP   82,089   +95%
VARIOUS
16   24   FERGIE   A&M/INTERSCOPE   80,871   +38%
THE DUTCHESS
20   25   RASCAL FLATTS   LYRIC STREET   78,873   +53%
ME AND MY GANG
--   26   BRAND NEW   INTERSCOPE   70,407   --
THE DEVIL & GOD ARE RAGING...
33   27   THE KILLERS   ISLAND/IDJMG   70,180   +101%
SAM'S TOWN
13   28   JOHN LEGEND   G.O.O.D./COLUMBIA/SONY U   69,365   +16%
ONCE AGAIN
35   29   CHEETAH GIRLS 2   WALT DISNEY RECORDS   66,952   +109%
SOUNDTRACK
18   30   EVANESCENCE   WIND-UP   62,862   +18%
THE OPEN DOOR
43   31   HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL   WALT DISNEY RECORDS   59,102   +123%
SOUNDTRACK
--   32   KILLSWITCH ENGAGE   ROADRUNNER/IDJMG   58,359   --
AS DAYLIGHT DIES
23   33   JOHN MAYER   AWARE/COLUMBIA/CRG   56,977   +29%
CONTINUUM
32   34   LUDACRIS   DEF JAM SOUTH/IDJMG   53,817   +49%
RELEASE THERAPY
--   35   JANET JACKSON   VIRGIN   52,596   --
20 Y.O.
40   36   DIDDY   BAD BOY/ATLANTIC/ATL G   50,487   +81%
PRESS PLAY
29   37   THE FRAY   EPIC   50,074   +26%
HOW TO SAVE A LIFE
42   38   JOJO   BG/UNIVERSAL MOTOWN   49,350   +81%
THE HIGH ROAD
30   39   BARRY MANILOW   ARISTA/RMG   48,443   +27%
SIXTIES GREATEST LOVE SONGS
39   40   JAMES TAYLOR   COLUMBIA/SLG   46,491   +66%
JAMES TAYLOR AT CHRISTMAS
46   41   TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA   LAVA/ATL G   46,345   +89%
THE LOST CHRISTMAS EVE
31   42   GEORGE STRAIT   MCA NASHVILLE   43,522   +15%
IT JUST COMES NATURAL
28   43   MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE   REPRISE   43,157   +5%
THE BLACK PARADE
34   44   ANDREA BOCELLI   DECCA   41,941   +24%
UNDER THE DESERT SKY
47   45   LARRY THE CABLE GUY   WARNER BROS.   41,268   +80%
A VERY LARRY CHRISTMAS
--   46   BOB SEGER   CAPITOL   35,843   --
FACE THE PROMISE
45   47   SNOW PATROL   A&M/INTERSCOPE   35,840   +44%
EYES OPEN
--   48   TRANS-SIBERIAN ORCHESTRA   LAVA/ATL G   35,162   --
CHRISTMAS EVE & OTHER STORIES
36   49   CHRISTINA AGUILERA   RCA/RMG   34,716   +13%
BACK TO BASICS
--   50   HAPPY FEET   ATLANTIC/ATL G   34,353   --
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: 7even on November 28, 2006, 03:01:00 PM
sucks donkey balls for game
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Fressh_Deini on November 28, 2006, 03:02:08 PM
This must be wrong. Ain't no way 18 artists gonna sell more than 100 K this week. Normally about 5 or 6 artists are selling that much.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 28, 2006, 03:03:20 PM
This must be wrong. Ain't no way 18 artists gonna sell more than 100 K this week. Normally about 5 or 6 artists are selling that much.
That did strike me, but it's a pretty reliable site that posted this (hitsdailydouble).
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Tha G In Deee on November 28, 2006, 03:05:17 PM
I'm just gonna wait 'til the official soundscan numbers come out tomorrow... 8)
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: E. J. Rizo on November 28, 2006, 03:09:43 PM
thats what i thought but it sounds official... and those saying that it sucks for game... thats not too bad at all... people would kill for those as second week numbers... he doing lloyd banks first week numbers on his second... i wouldnt say thats too bad at all... he is already gold with this week..
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: d-nice on November 28, 2006, 03:12:01 PM
The numbers overall are up because it is the holiday season. The majority of artists that drop in November and December do good numbers.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on November 28, 2006, 03:13:21 PM
thats what i thought but it sounds official... and those saying that it sucks for game... thats not too bad at all... people would kill for those as second week numbers... he doing lloyd banks first week numbers on his second... i wouldnt say thats too bad at all... he is already gold with this week..
Well I think The Game would have liked to stay withen 200K. None the less, he has already done gold numbers, and will probably go platinum.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Tha G In Deee on November 28, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
thats what i thought but it sounds official... and those saying that it sucks for game... thats not too bad at all... people would kill for those as second week numbers... he doing lloyd banks first week numbers on his second... i wouldnt say thats too bad at all... he is already gold with this week..
^Yeah, that's good that he's gold in 2 weeks...he's pulling in numbers in 2 weeks that Game & E-40 were getting in almost a year...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Minkaveli on November 28, 2006, 03:14:46 PM
True dat.  Holiday sales spike.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: 7even on November 28, 2006, 03:15:19 PM
well, game's documentary did more in the first week than the DA does in 2 weeks...  :-X

who cares if he sells way more than banks... banks ain't shit ... he sells way more than ICP, does that make it great? no, it doesnt.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: everlast1986 on November 28, 2006, 03:16:33 PM
This must be wrong. Ain't no way 18 artists gonna sell more than 100 K this week. Normally about 5 or 6 artists are selling that much.
That did strike me, but it's a pretty reliable site that posted this (hitsdailydouble).

remember its the holiday season now so more people are going to stores
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: notorious^q8I on November 28, 2006, 03:23:39 PM
although gold game still did bad numbers
all artists sales have gone up this week
which should be promising for game
he needs that second single soon
strip club i sgonna be number 23 next week on billboard
wouldnt get far should be out SOON
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: E. J. Rizo on November 28, 2006, 03:27:02 PM
well, game's documentary did more in the first week than the DA does in 2 weeks...  :-X

who cares if he sells way more than banks... banks ain't shit ... he sells way more than ICP, does that make it great? no, it doesnt.
well lloyd banks is supposed to be a big artist thats the only reason im comparing it.... if a "big" artist like banks did those numbers his first week.... comes to show something that game is selling really well...

but we will see at the end of the day it really doesnt matter because he dropped heat on this cd... which is all that matters... the only reason i want to see him sell well is so he can continue to drop big production cds in the future...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Trayvone on November 28, 2006, 03:43:10 PM
although gold game still did bad numbers
all artists sales have gone up this week
which should be promising for game
he needs that second single soon
strip club i sgonna be number 23 next week on billboard
wouldnt get far should be out SOON

Yeah he needs to put that single out ASAP. Its funny that Strip Club is finally starting to hit the billgboard charts and FINALLY getting showed on 106 and Park and TRL, but I think its too late. I would just put out Wouldnt Get Far before he falls to deep
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: thisoneguy360 on November 28, 2006, 03:59:49 PM
Too bad for Game, but he's already rich as fuck anyways, and he's probably laughing his ass off at all the groupies that bought 8 albums
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: smoke562 on November 28, 2006, 04:03:04 PM
last week: 378,936

this week: 138,372

total: 517,308


so how much has game sold worldwide so far?...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: smoke562 on November 28, 2006, 04:28:14 PM
i found a website that shows sales for game's album world wide.
but its last week's sales.

http://www.geocities.com/inthitlists/albums.htm

debuts at no.1 on the world charts, selling 433 600 copies

selling 378,000 in the U.S. & around 55,000 in the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: d-nice on November 28, 2006, 04:54:09 PM
Now we will see how much Geffen and Game promote and back the album. If they drop multiple singles and are smart about it, they will see good sales.

Snoop is doing his thing. Almost 300k with a dead in the water 1st single and another that only has been out a couple of weeks is good. But he also is Snoop Dogg and he had a good media blitz around him.

The 2pac situation is finally starting to catch up. I think people are growing tired of the remixed albums but it will be interesting to see the shelf life of this album. Gotta drop another single. Playa Cardz Right Male and Female combined into 1 video would blow up IMO. Have it like Luda & Keisha Cole are having a conversation about relationships and have Pac be the friend trying to keep it together. The shit would work.

But 3 west coast albums in the top 20 of the charts is still damn good.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Sriram619 on November 28, 2006, 05:12:18 PM
Geffen better promote doctors advocate because its the best cd out of snoops and jay's not saying their cds were not good but game should outsell them
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on November 28, 2006, 05:29:12 PM
Game needs a nakid picture of Mya inside his cover.


but yea, i think phillyboy is somewhere laughin right now.  Game really needs to push a good single...which i just dont see, IMO.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: evan the dude on November 28, 2006, 05:51:45 PM
i can't believe jay sold 700,000+ records...that shit is fucking ridiculous :o what makes me fuckin pissed is that all his sales were based on straight hype of his comeback. 80% of the tracks on his album fucking suck. people really irk me sometimes. they'll go out and support a lying multi-millionaire by buying his "comeback" cd when there is plenty of fresh talent out there that is hungry as fuck. why not bootleg jay and buy albums from cats that actually deserve it? shit makes me mad...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: dopeascanbe on November 28, 2006, 06:42:44 PM
well, game's documentary did more in the first week than the DA does in 2 weeks...  :-X

who cares if he sells way more than banks... banks ain't shit ... he sells way more than ICP, does that make it great? no, it doesnt.

Just two years ago banks was a 1.5 million cd in sales cat, but you say now he aint nothin. get the fuck out of here wit that shit. Plus outside of songwriting banks is killin fif and everyone else in bitch unit.  I would like to see boo boo curtis with out the backing of the white boy and his trl fan base he brings wit him. you damn well know what kind of numbers he would have put up on his first to albums. if game had of stayed wit bitch unit he would have bricked just like lloyd, mobb deep, yayo and what the rest are going to do.  the only one that will sale in g-unit is boo boo, and his numbers are not going to be as good as his last two.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: .SNEEKlocsta:. on November 28, 2006, 06:46:02 PM
i can't believe jay sold 700,000+ records...that shit is fucking ridiculous :o what makes me fuckin pissed is that all his sales were based on straight hype of his comeback. 80% of the tracks on his album fucking suck. people really irk me sometimes. they'll go out and support a lying multi-millionaire by buying his "comeback" cd when there is plenty of fresh talent out there that is hungry as fuck. why not bootleg jay and buy albums from cats that actually deserve it? shit makes me mad...
very fucken true!!!!!
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: SlickPants on November 28, 2006, 06:52:56 PM
sucks donkey balls for game

sucks?  gold in 2 weeks aint bad...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: 7even on November 28, 2006, 06:54:47 PM
ask Game, he'll tell you he's disappointed with those numbers

it sucks for Game and that's just the fact... just because a lot of rappers would be happy with those numbers doesnt mean Game will be happy, don't be so ignorant.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: ~Lucien~ on November 28, 2006, 06:56:11 PM
game sold 601,356 world wide
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: stephen619 on November 28, 2006, 07:01:31 PM
Game Already Gold?
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: al3000 on November 28, 2006, 08:03:45 PM
ask Game, he'll tell you he's disappointed with those numbers

it sucks for Game and that's just the fact... just because a lot of rappers would be happy with those numbers doesnt mean Game will be happy, don't be so ignorant.

I think your missing the point he may be disappointed wit the sells....but he will go platinum and at the end of the day.....disappointed or not.....that's not bad.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: js83 on November 28, 2006, 08:07:22 PM
ask Game, he'll tell you he's disappointed with those numbers

it sucks for Game and that's just the fact... just because a lot of rappers would be happy with those numbers doesnt mean Game will be happy, don't be so ignorant.

most hiphop albums have trouble going gold these days...the fuck are u talking about?  and your talking as if you know game personally or something...  ???
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Kaligula on November 28, 2006, 08:21:18 PM
I dont think it's Game's #s that are that surprising, they're pretty respectable in this day and age. He'll definitely go platinum, which more than most people can say this year. What is reallly amazing is Jay doing 700k + with two relatively weak singles. He may not know how to push anyone else at Def Jam, but he sure as hell knows how to promote himself. . .
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Darksider on November 28, 2006, 08:26:11 PM
not bad for jay........
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: wcsoldier on November 28, 2006, 09:31:28 PM
Jay sales ain't impressive regarding the promotion he had.... good for Snoop and Game gonna go platinum...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: westside159 on November 28, 2006, 10:46:25 PM
What are you tryint to say with this thread , anything over 100,000 is good and its still new & fresh he will go platinum just probally not 5 x like his first !!!!
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Chief on November 28, 2006, 10:51:21 PM
Jay sales ain't impressive regarding the promotion he had.... good for Snoop and Game gonna go platinum...

i think Doc had 5x more promotion than kingdom come, and how much did that push first week?
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: wcsoldier on November 28, 2006, 11:43:11 PM
^^^^ Jay basically got promotion from NBA; NFL ; been on an international tour.... maybe not more than game quantity wise but WAY better quality wise regarding his position at Def Jam records
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: kroopy on November 28, 2006, 11:48:33 PM
Snoop's 270k - hmmm... not bad;) but it's only 5th position
700k for Hova is incredible!
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 28, 2006, 11:49:55 PM
What are you tryint to say with this thread , anything over 100,000 is good and its still new & fresh he will go platinum just probally not 5 x like his first !!!!

!!!!!!!!!! AND SOME MORE !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: LAZY on November 29, 2006, 12:15:48 AM
^^^^ Jay basically got promotion from NBA; NFL ; been on an international tour.... maybe not more than game quantity wise but WAY better quality wise regarding his position at Def Jam records

thats what i was about to say! Jay-Z been promoted on NBA commercials and everything
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Bomb-A® on November 29, 2006, 01:58:12 AM
who the fuck is daughtry?



peace
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Mac 10 † on November 29, 2006, 02:00:46 AM
Gotta remember all the pop fans Jay has got now.

That would affect that 700k number greatly.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: [ ChaoS 2 Society ] on November 29, 2006, 02:33:41 AM
Jay Z shit is all hype damn album is garbage..... Dre's Tracks sound the same
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Slikk_J on November 29, 2006, 06:22:49 AM
i can't believe jay sold 700,000+ records...that shit is fucking ridiculous :o what makes me fuckin pissed is that all his sales were based on straight hype of his comeback. 80% of the tracks on his album fucking suck. people really irk me sometimes. they'll go out and support a lying multi-millionaire by buying his "comeback" cd when there is plenty of fresh talent out there that is hungry as fuck. why not bootleg jay and buy albums from cats that actually deserve it? shit makes me mad...

Agree........how the hell does Jay-Z sell more than Snoop & Game when both shit all over his album.......shit even 2pac REMIXED is better than kingdom come..........Thats straight up garbage.........These New York people are f@#$%^ up....Jay-Zs new album going plat.........makes me wanna cry....

But Im sure both Game & Snoop will go plat too...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: R-Tistic on November 29, 2006, 06:33:14 AM
-I am not at all surprised that there were that many albums selling over 100 K. It just SHITS on everybody who was sayin "albums don't sell as much"....when the reality is that the albums just hadn't been that good until the last few weeks, with a few good albums a few months before. Of course the Dazs, Kurupts, and Too Shorts aren't gonna sell as much when they get no fuck'n promotion.

-Game did take a big drop, but most hyped up albums usually sell a whole lot the first week, then fall off until they come back with a strong single, or major controversy.

-I would never say Jay "flopped"....but for the amount of promotion he had, he should have gone fuckin platinum this week. I mean, who the hell else has EVER had 106 and Park say "fuck the regular show, lets let them perform 10 songs from their career and take up the whole episode"....then have Budweiser commercials....then have Danica Patrick in your video...then be on damn Monday Night Football....then have all the hype of being "retired" and "coming back" as evan the dude said? If Snoop had that much promotion, I think he would have sold more than Jay did, because he pulled 275 in the same week as Jay having all this hype, and he didn't have 10% of the promotion.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: sonofisis on November 29, 2006, 08:31:39 AM
Jay sales ain't impressive regarding the promotion he had.... good for Snoop and Game gonna go platinum...
700,000 records in one week ain't impressive??!!!!! You internet niggas are str8 fucking stupid as fuck, what goes thru you nigga's minds? Hahaha.. Anything above 100,000 now a days is good for a rap album! If you've been looking at the numbers lately people have been averaging like 90 - 100K for the first week, only the mega pop stars do over 200,000.. And it has nothing to do with quality of the albums shit brains, it's peak season so more people by music around this time, plus if that was the case Jay-Z would of only sold two albums coz his shit sucks. It's all about star power and hype.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on November 29, 2006, 10:11:03 AM
fuck jay-z.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: wcsoldier on November 29, 2006, 10:33:05 AM
Jay sales ain't impressive regarding the promotion he had.... good for Snoop and Game gonna go platinum...
700,000 records in one week ain't impressive??!!!!! You internet niggas are str8 fucking stupid as fuck, what goes thru you nigga's minds? Hahaha.. Anything above 100,000 now a days is good for a rap album! If you've been looking at the numbers lately people have been averaging like 90 - 100K for the first week, only the mega pop stars do over 200,000.. And it has nothing to do with quality of the albums shit brains, it's peak season so more people by music around this time, plus if that was the case Jay-Z would of only sold two albums coz his shit sucks. It's all about star power and hype.
Lol calm down internet gangsta... 1st it's Jay-z who always sell lots od records, and then with the promotion he had, it has nothnig to be shocked about... and lol at you trying to teach me album sales isn't about quality coz :
1st I never said it was, 2nd I knew about it before you begin to post here so Shut the fuck up
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: wcsoldier on November 29, 2006, 10:34:43 AM
[quote author=R-Tistic link=topic=127817.msg1323252#msg1323252 date=1164810794

-I would never say Jay "flopped"....but for the amount of promotion he had, he should have gone fuckin platinum this week. I mean, who the hell else has EVER had 106 and Park say "fuck the regular show, lets let them perform 10 songs from their career and take up the whole episode"....then have Budweiser commercials....then have Danica Patrick in your video...then be on damn Monday Night Football....then have all the hype of being "retired" and "coming back" as evan the dude said? If Snoop had that much promotion, I think he would have sold more than Jay did, because he pulled 275 in the same week as Jay having all this hype, and he didn't have 10% of the promotion.
[/quote] exactly my thoughts...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: $Eg2$ on November 29, 2006, 10:38:38 AM
fuck jay-z.

YEAH
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: T-Dogg on November 29, 2006, 10:41:25 AM
These charts ain't nuthin' but another piece of evidence to the fact that good music and sales don't go hand in hand. I know for damn sure Jay only had the biggest hype going for him, but his product can't back it up. Not this time. Can't knock the hustle though, and I guess selling the idea of a dope album to 700,00 people is a bigger hustle than an actual dope album.

Game's sales fell, but that was expected. No way he could've kept up with the new releases this week. But to be honest, I expected his sales to drop off even more this week.

Next week might be interesting. Who gains sales, who falls behind, who stays up there...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Gangstauu on November 29, 2006, 10:44:45 AM
dam, the jay-z album sucks but got mad promotion and just look at the sales  :o
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Meho on November 29, 2006, 10:53:29 AM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: $Eg2$ on November 29, 2006, 10:57:20 AM
^^^ LOL @ you
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 29, 2006, 11:05:20 AM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

I thought u knew? its always been that way...its always gonna be that way...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: T-Dogg on November 29, 2006, 12:36:56 PM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

Man, that ain't true. When 50 dropped his first major, the forum loved it. Snoop is constantly on top, and he gets love here. Game's a major in the game, he gets love here.

Everybody gets love when they drop something hot. Black Album brought the love for Jay, this new shit doesn't. And nobody can deny the fact that Jay had huge hype once again that helped him push major units.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: gav09 on November 29, 2006, 01:20:52 PM
Not surprised that Jay sold big, he had all the powers of Def Jam pushin that album, so he woz always gonna sell big, plus KC is a dope album imo!

Snoops numbers are pretty good seen as he was pretty much self promotin with a little help frm Geffen!

Games still sellin pretty solidly, not sure if he gonna make that 5m tho!
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: NFX on November 29, 2006, 06:06:51 PM
Some people might not realize that when an artists does huge numbers it takes away from the other artists. If Game had dropped a month earlier he might have been better off with less competition from snoop, jay and akon who all have major radio play behind them. He might have been plat already.

Game also did not make a pop (aka radio friendly) album. Most artists want to load the pipe with radio singles but DA is not a singles album.

I still think he dropped Strip Club (which is the most radio friendly cut) too soon and leaking the album was a poor decision because I would guess it might result in 100K more sales off the bat since a lot of people will buy a CD but if they already have it downloaded they get lazy.

Right now he needs to get another single out the door QUICK to get that Christmas rush. I don't know whats taking so long.

But whatever, he might go platinum in a month or two if he's lucky


Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Meho on November 30, 2006, 03:27:19 AM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

Man, that ain't true. When 50 dropped his first major, the forum loved it. Snoop is constantly on top, and he gets love here. Game's a major in the game, he gets love here.

Everybody gets love when they drop something hot. Black Album brought the love for Jay, this new shit doesn't. And nobody can deny the fact that Jay had huge hype once again that helped him push major units.

Well Snoop and Game are from Westcoast so....

Im postive that if Game did Jay/50/Em numbers he'd get hated on too. That would mean he'd be on radio 24/7, he'd be even more cocky and everyone would be tired of his songs.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Meho on November 30, 2006, 03:31:46 AM
Some people might not realize that when an artists does huge numbers it takes away from the other artists. If Game had dropped a month earlier he might have been better off with less competition from snoop, jay and akon who all have major radio play behind them. He might have been plat already.

Game also did not make a pop (aka radio friendly) album. Most artists want to load the pipe with radio singles but DA is not a singles album.

I still think he dropped Strip Club (which is the most radio friendly cut) too soon and leaking the album was a poor decision because I would guess it might result in 100K more sales off the bat since a lot of people will buy a CD but if they already have it downloaded they get lazy.

Right now he needs to get another single out the door QUICK to get that Christmas rush. I don't know whats taking so long.

But whatever, he might go platinum in a month or two if he's lucky




Not radio frinedly ? Are you kidding me ?

He basically had all your MTVs hottest producer --> Kanye, Blaze, Storch, Will.I.Am... He basically stayed in the comfort zone, with the producers that have most mainstream appeal at the moment. He also had some radio friendly joints like  Lets Ride, Too Much, Wouldnt Get Far, Around The World. But dont confuse no raido frinedly tracks, with not being able to make a hit out of popular melodys.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Rud on November 30, 2006, 03:32:09 AM
Well Snoop and Game are from Westcoast so....

Im postive that if Game did Jay/50/Em numbers he'd get hated on too. That would mean he'd be on radio 24/7, he'd be even more cocky and everyone would be tired of his songs.

Indeed, success breeds hate - as does saturation...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: T-Dogg on November 30, 2006, 04:59:52 AM
Well Snoop and Game are from Westcoast so....

Im postive that if Game did Jay/50/Em numbers he'd get hated on too. That would mean he'd be on radio 24/7, he'd be even more cocky and everyone would be tired of his songs.

Indeed, success breeds hate - as does saturation...

I think it's more of the saturation, really. Nobody wants to see the same face everywhere all the time, and nobody can keep fresh when they're everywhere all the time. 50 oversaturated the market with himself so fast it was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: NFX on November 30, 2006, 06:12:16 PM
Not radio frinedly ? Are you kidding me ?

He basically had all your MTVs hottest producer --> Kanye, Blaze, Storch, Will.I.Am... He basically stayed in the comfort zone, with the producers that have most mainstream appeal at the moment. He also had some radio friendly joints like  Lets Ride, Too Much, Wouldnt Get Far, Around The World. But dont confuse no raido frinedly tracks, with not being able to make a hit out of popular melodys.

WTF are you thinking about? I dont agree that "MTVs hottest producers" automatically = radio friendly. To me the lyrics and performer have more to do with it than who did the music. I guarantee if you give me the hottest beat in the universe right now and ask me to spit over it, I'd be lucky to go wood.

With the exception of Snoops mega pop bubblegum collabos, the radio is just not feeling (aka "friendly to") real gangsta rappers right now.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Narrator on November 30, 2006, 06:42:37 PM
^^^ LOL @ you

LOL at YOU, kid...you're the one who thinks Ja Rule is dope.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Hectic on November 30, 2006, 11:20:30 PM
^^that was janky :-X
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: Chief on November 30, 2006, 11:34:41 PM
Some people might not realize that when an artists does huge numbers it takes away from the other artists. If Game had dropped a month earlier he might have been better off with less competition from snoop, jay and akon who all have major radio play behind them. He might have been plat already.

Game also did not make a pop (aka radio friendly) album. Most artists want to load the pipe with radio singles but DA is not a singles album.

I still think he dropped Strip Club (which is the most radio friendly cut) too soon and leaking the album was a poor decision because I would guess it might result in 100K more sales off the bat since a lot of people will buy a CD but if they already have it downloaded they get lazy.

Right now he needs to get another single out the door QUICK to get that Christmas rush. I don't know whats taking so long.

But whatever, he might go platinum in a month or two if he's lucky




Not radio frinedly ? Are you kidding me ?

He basically had all your MTVs hottest producer --> Kanye, Blaze, Storch, Will.I.Am... He basically stayed in the comfort zone, with the producers that have most mainstream appeal at the moment. He also had some radio friendly joints like  Lets Ride, Too Much, Wouldnt Get Far, Around The World. But dont confuse no raido frinedly tracks, with not being able to make a hit out of popular melodys.

game groupies are worse than crack heads.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: MediumL on November 30, 2006, 11:46:08 PM
Jay has done amazing, fuck what you say about his promotion. 700,000 loads! Snoop doing well, nice album he dropped and game is doing good although he looks real stupid now sayin he was gonna outsell the documentry.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: js83 on December 01, 2006, 02:10:05 AM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

kingdom come is easily jay's worst album...he just sounds bored and old...half of the songs on the album is garbage...got about maybe 2 good songs...the intro is dope...shit is like a 3 mic album at best...

jay-z 06 = jordan in the wizards


he should've just retired with the black album...but then he had to come back and now he's just a shadow of what he used to be...
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: XaNdEr on December 01, 2006, 02:16:26 AM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

kingdom come is easily jay's worst album...he just sounds bored and old...half of the songs on the album is garbage...got about maybe 2 good songs...the intro is dope...shit is like a 3 mic album at best...

jay-z 06 = jordan in the wizards


he should've just retired with the black album...but then he had to come back and now he's just a shadow of what he used to be...

real talk

this album sucks, bacl album was way better, with or without dre this album is a bad end...he shud have stayed away from the mic ::)
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: Chief on December 01, 2006, 09:30:25 AM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

kingdom come is easily jay's worst album...he just sounds bored and old...half of the songs on the album is garbage...got about maybe 2 good songs...the intro is dope...shit is like a 3 mic album at best...

jay-z 06 = jordan in the wizards


he should've just retired with the black album...but then he had to come back and now he's just a shadow of what he used to be...

thats not what the sales say though.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls be
Post by: youngmessnucca on December 01, 2006, 12:47:17 PM
Game needs a nakid picture of Mya inside his cover.


but yea, i think phillyboy is somewhere laughin right now.  Game really needs to push a good single...which i just dont see, IMO.

LOL, he needs to do 482,692 in 4 weeks =120,673K a week. I told yall that it wasn;t gonna happen, and it's not even about Game, it's about record sales in general!

The irony is that a couple tracks on here have grown on me quite a bit lol.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: youngmessnucca on December 01, 2006, 12:51:01 PM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

Definitley. People can be real hypocritical on here most of the time without even realizing it. It really seems like people are jealous, and making up excuses becuase he outsold Game's 1st 2 weeks in one. Don't hate on Jay-Z, just be glad that Game is as big as he is now.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: js83 on December 01, 2006, 05:36:35 PM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

kingdom come is easily jay's worst album...he just sounds bored and old...half of the songs on the album is garbage...got about maybe 2 good songs...the intro is dope...shit is like a 3 mic album at best...

jay-z 06 = jordan in the wizards


he should've just retired with the black album...but then he had to come back and now he's just a shadow of what he used to be...

thats not what the sales say though.

i'm talking about in terms of his skill...rapping? read my post again if your still confused.
Title: Re: Jay-Z does 700K, Snoop does over 250K, 2Pac sells 164K and The Game falls behind
Post by: proverbs aka DD on December 01, 2006, 06:35:37 PM
Lol at people calling Jay-Z album wack.

I guess the Dubcc forum must hate on people that are on top.

kingdom come is easily jay's worst album...he just sounds bored and old...half of the songs on the album is garbage...got about maybe 2 good songs...the intro is dope...shit is like a 3 mic album at best...

jay-z 06 = jordan in the wizards


he should've just retired with the black album...but then he had to come back and now he's just a shadow of what he used to be...

thats not what the sales say though.

i'm talking about in terms of his skill...rapping? read my post again if your still confused.

lol at people passing judgement based on record sales.. i don't agree with you, but i respect that you're critiquing the music, and not the retail chains..

if we want to talk about SALES, then someone can easily point out that a majority of people who 'outsold' game this past week was because their albums went on a "black friday" sale... For example, Justin Timberlake and Beyonce's albums went from 14.99 to $9.99 at many major retailers..