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Title: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Soulful on March 27, 2007, 03:54:37 PM
just watch this performance, i dont like hes music, out of all his songs, i probably like 10 of em..BUT dude can really spit yall, and hes a great live performer also..

i just dont like the beats he raps on, concept of hes songs etc.

but i gotta say he is one of the best, and if yall dont think this performance is nice i dont know wtf yall been smokin

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6qS_YP5C-A
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Primo on March 27, 2007, 05:27:20 PM
that was hot.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: floatin_above_everything on March 27, 2007, 05:54:12 PM
that was hot.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Sanford - V. President of the Dangerous Crew Movement on March 27, 2007, 06:46:33 PM
jay is capable of a very good flow.  however, 99% of the time he sucks.

back in the day, he was a beast.  but all his fame is coming from more of his recent work, which is fucken garbage.

so all in all,

fuck jay-z.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: WC Iz Active on March 27, 2007, 06:57:50 PM
jay is capable of a very good flow.  however, 99% of the time he sucks.

back in the day, he was a beast.  but all his fame is coming from more of his recent work, which is fucken garbage.

so all in all,

fuck jay-z.

amen
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 27, 2007, 07:09:11 PM
Reasonable Doubt >>>>> anything dipset has ever done
The Blue Print >>>> anything dipset has ever done
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: floatin_above_everything on March 27, 2007, 07:54:56 PM
Hawaiin Sophie >>>>> anything dipset has ever done

Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Paul on March 27, 2007, 08:21:51 PM
i loved the blueprint but thats bout it what hes dun :-\
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on March 27, 2007, 08:33:57 PM
he doesn't suck but his last album did
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: eazye on March 28, 2007, 01:50:41 AM
he doesn't suck but his last album did
Yup that's pretty much it, and that vid was MAD dope  8)
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Samoan Enforcer on March 28, 2007, 03:29:40 AM
if you want a really real performance check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/v/9QQYid8fCU0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QQYid8fCU0)
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Chief on March 28, 2007, 03:44:53 AM
yeh jay-z is da man.. kingdom come is a good album too... only tracks that suck are hollywood and that bounce track with usher.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Meho on March 28, 2007, 07:07:21 AM
yeh jay-z is da man.. kingdom come is a good album too... only tracks that suck are hollywood and that bounce track with usher.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: macknlatin36 on March 28, 2007, 11:56:09 AM
if you want a really real performance check out this video
https://www.youtube.com/v/9QQYid8fCU0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QQYid8fCU0)

:loopaper:
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Don Jacob on March 28, 2007, 02:40:25 PM
jay-z is okay but probably the most overrated rapper ever


but with that said i agree with tom
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: AlerG on March 28, 2007, 02:55:55 PM
That jay-z vid was dope, the dipset however  :-X

chill
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 28, 2007, 03:03:52 PM
sick lyricist, used to have a dope flow

worst voice in rap

he sounds like the ultimate bro. and bro's are dumb and whack.

furthermore

"yall roll blunts/i smoke cubans all day" is the worst line ever and he is officially a 56 year old white republican now because of it.

oh yeah and like jake said, most overrated rapper ever. honestly, dame dash made his career capitalizing off of americas love for cars.

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: J$crILLa on March 28, 2007, 03:55:06 PM
jay is capable of a very good flow.  however, 99% of the time he sucks.

back in the day, he was a beast.  but all his fame is coming from more of his recent work, which is fucken garbage.

so all in all,

fuck jay-z.

i agree he made some tight shit back in the day.... but his work after BP is pure garbage
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 28, 2007, 03:59:13 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 28, 2007, 04:37:42 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

thats still a lot of good music and better then most peoples favorite rappers lol
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 28, 2007, 04:39:15 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

thats still a lot of good music and better then most peoples favorite rappers lol

true, but he's still mad overrated. still has a horrible voice. is a horrible biter. a huge cause for the decline of hip hop. did i mention that he is an annoying dude with stupid videos?

most overrated ever.

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on March 28, 2007, 04:54:46 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

Volume 1 is a dope album too and I don't think Jay and Dre make a good combo, he sounds better over Premo, Just Blaze, Clark Kent beats
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 28, 2007, 07:50:20 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

Volume 1 is a dope album too and I don't think Jay and Dre make a good combo, he sounds better over Premo, Just Blaze, Clark Kent beats

HE DONT know much about hip hop, cut him some slack.  BTW dre and jay never made a good combo.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 28, 2007, 07:51:26 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

thats still a lot of good music and better then most peoples favorite rappers lol

true, but he's still mad overrated. still has a horrible voice. is a horrible biter. a huge cause for the decline of hip hop. did i mention that he is an annoying dude with stupid videos?

most overrated ever.

-T

worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: J$crILLa on March 28, 2007, 10:13:27 PM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

i dont like black album at all.....

but the only albums by Jay i like are

RD, DYNASTY, BP1

Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: eazye on March 28, 2007, 11:50:16 PM
I could care less if he's overated or not.RD is classic to me, Vol. 1 is really dope.I expected more from Hard Knock life tho.Half of the songs are listenable on there and the other half is  :-\

From his other albums I've heard only separate tracks
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: RXL on March 29, 2007, 12:22:39 AM
Reasonable Doubt >>>>> anything dipset has ever done
The Blue Print >>>> anything dipset has ever done

dips didnt even have anything to do with this topic..
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 30, 2007, 03:01:37 AM
RD, BP1, Black album, anything dre produced

only Jay z worth buying

+

old features and appearances, freestyles

only jay z worth seeking out^

-T

thats still a lot of good music and better then most peoples favorite rappers lol

true, but he's still mad overrated. still has a horrible voice. is a horrible biter. a huge cause for the decline of hip hop. did i mention that he is an annoying dude with stupid videos?

most overrated ever.

-T

worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's

it's easier to dismiss a poster than to succesfully refute the ideas they present

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 30, 2007, 03:04:12 AM
furthermore, yeah I agree he does sound really good with premier. but few people don't. and it's just cool to say dre and him don't sound good together cause he's seen as mainstream. the songs sound good, and any aspect of them that doesn't is jay's fault (stupid ad libbing and constant 'uhh's'. his voice just isn't smooth enough for him to do that constantly and be entertaining.)

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Mac 10 † on March 30, 2007, 03:08:46 AM
Reasonable Doubt >>>>> anything dipset has ever done
The Blue Print >>>> anything dipset has ever done
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on March 30, 2007, 03:32:45 AM
Reasonable Doubt >>>>> anything dipset has ever done
The Blue Print >>>> anything dipset has ever done

Fo sho.

i've gone off Jay lately, but his flow is sicker than anybody else's. If BIG was alive, Jay may not have been as successful because Biggie's flow was way more advanced, but you can't deny that Jay ripped Reasonable Doubt even if he was talking shit half the time.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: sunny way on March 31, 2007, 05:56:59 AM
just watch this performance, i dont like hes music, out of all his songs, i probably like 10 of em..BUT dude can really spit yall, and hes a great live performer also..

i just dont like the beats he raps on, concept of hes songs etc.

but i gotta say he is one of the best, and if yall dont think this performance is nice i dont know wtf yall been smokin

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6qS_YP5C-A

Ok, let me see if I got you? You don`t like his music, You don`like his lyrics, but he can really spit?

What`s a good rapper 2 u then?
AS long as his flow is ok he could rap about tampons 4 all you care..right?

J and Diddy are amazing entrepreneurs, but can they rock the mike? HELL NO!! I bet they would even be the first. ones 2 agree since all the talent they sing up are on point. But who cares?they @re laughing all the way 2 the bank... And I would rather have a brother cash in on hiphop then a corporate mf.. Pluss puffy has produced a lot of hits and has his own signature sound..

Anyways you know who`s a good freestyler and live performer EVE... Her albums suck but she can hold herself in a battle. I don`t think we`ll see Rockafella or badboy tryin 2represent in 1 anytime soon

peace
   
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: K.Dub on March 31, 2007, 08:41:49 AM
This thread suck!
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: T-Dogg on March 31, 2007, 09:17:25 AM
he doesn't suck but his last album did
Yup that's pretty much it, and that vid was MAD dope  8)
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: XaNdEr on March 31, 2007, 09:41:39 AM
- Reasonable Doubt; cool ass album with Jay-Z having a very good flow.

- Vol. 1; good album, not outstanding though.

- Vol. 2; commercial album, imo its better then Vol. 1

- Vol. 3; has some good songs on it, but most of the Timbaland beats there suck, i dont like much songs off this album...

- The Dynasty; more of a compilation, still a good album, i think only 2 or 3 songs i skip, most is cool, the beats, flow, lyrics.

- Blueprint; good beats, nice flow and some ok lyrics, its a good effort, best since Vol. 2 imo.

- Blueprint 2; trash. No need to say more. Has stolen song-concepts (2Pac, anyone?) plus most of it sounds rushed.

- Black Album; dopest beats out around that time. Consistent album, i think its one of his best work. Not too long, not too short, just a great album.

- Kingdom Come; even Dre couldnt save it for me, this album is pure trash, flow is weak, lyrics not outstanding and the beats arent really super either...

Jay-Z has had some good albums, and some pretty weak ones. He has had a good flow, lately hes lacking that though, even though on the Black Album its not really bad. He has had great beats on his albums, and has had some pretty weak ones. Lyrics were never his strength. Next to his "stealing" (some may see it as honoring the original writers, its still a cheap wa yto write your songs with, no matter how you view it, imo) he never was really saying much with his lyrics. But many other rappers arent either. He is a businessman (together with Dame in the past) who knew how to market himself in the right way and has sold millions.

To put it shorter, hes not bad, not good either, hes just average as a rapper. But definately not the worst rapper, though he is overhyped as "the best rapper alive". If anyone can claim that title its a Ya Boy, Bishop Lamont, Nas, Guru, Method Man or someone like that.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 31, 2007, 10:32:56 AM
furthermore, yeah I agree he does sound really good with premier. but few people don't. and it's just cool to say dre and him don't sound good together cause he's seen as mainstream. the songs sound good, and any aspect of them that doesn't is jay's fault (stupid ad libbing and constant 'uhh's'. his voice just isn't smooth enough for him to do that constantly and be entertaining.)

-T

no they dont sound good b/c the beats dre gave Jay werent anything special maybe.  But you blame Jay b/c u got a hard on for Dre.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 31, 2007, 03:43:46 PM
furthermore, yeah I agree he does sound really good with premier. but few people don't. and it's just cool to say dre and him don't sound good together cause he's seen as mainstream. the songs sound good, and any aspect of them that doesn't is jay's fault (stupid ad libbing and constant 'uhh's'. his voice just isn't smooth enough for him to do that constantly and be entertaining.)

-T

no they dont sound good b/c the beats dre gave Jay werent anything special maybe.  But you blame Jay b/c u got a hard on for Dre.

Exactly, that's exactly what is is. I have a hard on for Dre. We should have just ended the discussion before it even began because that's all I am, right the dude with a hard on for Dre,right?

Once more, it's easy to look smart when you dismiss a poster as opposed to succesfully refuting the ideas they present. Dude's voice is whack and I'm sure that you long for his lips or whatever but why are you even here? Wouldn't you fit in better at allhiphop.com or sohh or something?

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Pizzle on March 31, 2007, 03:52:04 PM
Jay-Z is the most respected rapper right now. Hes got that hustle. You'd be straight stupid not to give him credit.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 31, 2007, 03:56:29 PM
furthermore, yeah I agree he does sound really good with premier. but few people don't. and it's just cool to say dre and him don't sound good together cause he's seen as mainstream. the songs sound good, and any aspect of them that doesn't is jay's fault (stupid ad libbing and constant 'uhh's'. his voice just isn't smooth enough for him to do that constantly and be entertaining.)

-T

no they dont sound good b/c the beats dre gave Jay werent anything special maybe.  But you blame Jay b/c u got a hard on for Dre.

Exactly, that's exactly what is is. I have a hard on for Dre. We should have just ended the discussion before it even began because that's all I am, right the dude with a hard on for Dre,right?

Once more, it's easy to look smart when you dismiss a poster as opposed to succesfully refuting the ideas they present. Dude's voice is whack and I'm sure that you long for his lips or whatever but why are you even here? Wouldn't you fit in better at allhiphop.com or sohh or something?

-T

I do post at sohh.com with hip hops heads that actually know there shit.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Mac 10 † on March 31, 2007, 05:34:33 PM
- Blueprint; good beats, nice flow and some ok lyrics, its a good effort, best since Vol. 2 imo.

That's where you lost me. Blueprint deserves a better rating than that.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 31, 2007, 06:22:33 PM
furthermore, yeah I agree he does sound really good with premier. but few people don't. and it's just cool to say dre and him don't sound good together cause he's seen as mainstream. the songs sound good, and any aspect of them that doesn't is jay's fault (stupid ad libbing and constant 'uhh's'. his voice just isn't smooth enough for him to do that constantly and be entertaining.)

-T

no they dont sound good b/c the beats dre gave Jay werent anything special maybe.  But you blame Jay b/c u got a hard on for Dre.

Exactly, that's exactly what is is. I have a hard on for Dre. We should have just ended the discussion before it even began because that's all I am, right the dude with a hard on for Dre,right?

Once more, it's easy to look smart when you dismiss a poster as opposed to succesfully refuting the ideas they present. Dude's voice is whack and I'm sure that you long for his lips or whatever but why are you even here? Wouldn't you fit in better at allhiphop.com or sohh or something?

-T

I do post at sohh.com with hip hops heads that actually know there shit.

Hey man, I dissed Jay Z and you dissed me. Not hard to spot the dickrider.

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on March 31, 2007, 06:31:32 PM
furthermore, yeah I agree he does sound really good with premier. but few people don't. and it's just cool to say dre and him don't sound good together cause he's seen as mainstream. the songs sound good, and any aspect of them that doesn't is jay's fault (stupid ad libbing and constant 'uhh's'. his voice just isn't smooth enough for him to do that constantly and be entertaining.)

-T

no they dont sound good b/c the beats dre gave Jay werent anything special maybe.  But you blame Jay b/c u got a hard on for Dre.

Exactly, that's exactly what is is. I have a hard on for Dre. We should have just ended the discussion before it even began because that's all I am, right the dude with a hard on for Dre,right?

Once more, it's easy to look smart when you dismiss a poster as opposed to succesfully refuting the ideas they present. Dude's voice is whack and I'm sure that you long for his lips or whatever but why are you even here? Wouldn't you fit in better at allhiphop.com or sohh or something?

-T

I do post at sohh.com with hip hops heads that actually know there shit.

Hey man, I dissed Jay Z and you dissed me. Not hard to spot the dickrider.

-T

LMFAO @ im a jay dickrider, but then Jome says im a Jay hater.... lmfao you couldnt be more off on that shit guy.  Isnt a new game interview you should be talking about.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: mrceo on March 31, 2007, 07:30:24 PM


J and Diddy are amazing entrepreneurs, but can they rock the mike? HELL NO!! I bet they would even be the first. ones 2 agree since all the talent they sing up are on point.
   

Jay can't rock the mic???? You are definitely on somethin', have you ever seen Fade To Black or the Hard Knock Life Tour, Jay can rock the stage with the best of 'em.  As far as his albums go, he is the most consistent rapper out right now, even tho I thought Kingdom Come was his worst album, that doesn't mean shit tho cuz it's better than 75% of other albums.  He's got a sick flow, he can spit fire, and has dope voice control, as Chuck D said:  Jay is the KING
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: K.Dub on March 31, 2007, 08:17:05 PM
Nas > Jigga anyday
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on March 31, 2007, 08:23:00 PM
Nas > Jigga anyday
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Al Bundy on March 31, 2007, 08:48:36 PM
my personal opinion is jay-z sucks.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Twentytwofifty on March 31, 2007, 09:46:24 PM
worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's

it's easier to dismiss a poster than to succesfully refute the ideas they present

Your "ideas" in that post aren't worth dissecting or even discussing.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on April 01, 2007, 01:07:28 AM
worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's

it's easier to dismiss a poster than to succesfully refute the ideas they present

Your "ideas" in that post aren't worth dissecting or even discussing.
Right on, bro.

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on April 01, 2007, 01:24:34 AM
Nas > Jigga anyday

i agree, but nas has nothing to do with this post.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on April 01, 2007, 01:25:31 AM
worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's

it's easier to dismiss a poster than to succesfully refute the ideas they present

Your "ideas" in that post aren't worth dissecting or even discussing.
Right on, bro.

-T

knuckles was talking about you guy.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Tanjential on April 01, 2007, 01:30:38 AM
worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's

it's easier to dismiss a poster than to succesfully refute the ideas they present

Your "ideas" in that post aren't worth dissecting or even discussing.
Right on, bro.

-T

knuckles was talking about you guy.
Cool buddy.

-T
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: Bones01 on April 01, 2007, 01:39:11 AM
my personal opinion is jay-z sucks.
Title: Re: those who think jay-z sucks
Post by: herpes on April 01, 2007, 01:50:25 AM
worst post ever, please just stick to your dre and game cd's

it's easier to dismiss a poster than to succesfully refute the ideas they present

Your "ideas" in that post aren't worth dissecting or even discussing.
Right on, bro.

-T

knuckles was talking about you guy.
Cool buddy.

-T

im your buddy  :D