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Title: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 03, 2007, 05:28:47 PM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: J$crILLa on April 03, 2007, 05:44:28 PM
hopefully hes savin his best stuff for his album.... but lately his beats have been a lil repetitive
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Blu Lacez on April 03, 2007, 05:52:26 PM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)

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  though i respect ur opinion homie..but i have to disagree!
this new 50 Cent track is a real bumper of a track, compared to the other smooth jazzy tracks dre gave to Snoop (Imagine,& Boss life) Jay z (30 Something)..

But..I will admit this..that 50's new track "Straight to the Bank"..is very similar to the dre of chronic era..i don't know if it's just me..but i feel it so much on that level-whether thats good or bad..only time will tell..

But one thing for certain..50's album will be the hype that dre will need for his Detox album..
By the way, this is just the first single.(i'm hoping),that 50 has a few more dre produced tracks..so hopefully does one will be alot more thuumping, jazzy and smooth..

But i feel if 50 came alot more lyrical on this track..it wuld be a perfect track IMO..but i like it...
i had to turn up my system..when i heard the bass line!!!

Blu!
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: The King Of L.A on April 03, 2007, 05:53:38 PM
Dam the whole Unit is getting squased.....

i epected more from 5o, He is capable of more then that.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Woodrow on April 03, 2007, 05:58:09 PM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)

I'm gonna bump this for you when Detox drops.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 03, 2007, 06:08:54 PM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)

yo gotta agree with ya dawg, his shit on jiggaz, snoop, bucks album have all been average....oh and the shit he did with snoop was decent at best too imo....oh and snoop is my favourite rapper living and dre is my favourite producer so this is coming from a fan....dre has been coming week for more than a minute....last shit he did which was really nice was the beat for games start from scratch joint....go check that to remind y'all of what dre can do....

oh and this beat for 50 was not wack....but it was not nice either....sounded like something one of these upcoming producers would do tryna copy the dre sound....it does not even sound that crisp to me...

oh but i do beleive dre will be saving his best shit for himself this time, he has consistantly given out bangers to other niggaz since chronic 2001 even though recently his shit has been weak....but i do believe he will make sure he comes straight on his own album....but right now i do not think he will be able to touch 2001.....both rapping wise and beats wise....rapping wise because the niggaz he rolls with do not spit shit worth listening no more......and dre beats lack the heavy bass mixed with funk....with heavy emphasis on the funk...dre use to have a gangsta sound mang....gangsta as in it could bang yet musically the keys and everything would sound hella nice and still it could be filled with funk and shit....now his shit is gettin real boring......

and anyone telling me he gave jigga throwaway beats needs a checking because we all know that dre and jigga tried to work some magic together but failed....

but yeah, i still think dre will come good on detox.......but how good? only time will tell.....but i really hope his saving all his amazing shit for himself instead of this is the level he is at right now and this is the shit his giving to 50 because this is his best beats....

pz
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Lunatic on April 03, 2007, 06:10:51 PM
ok, first off this ain't no single, it's a muthafuckin street single. We won't see this on no bet or whatever (i doubt).

and come on Jscrilla, dre's beats recently have been repetitive? not at all dog.

most of his beats haven't had that classic dre sound. Listen to the beats on Jay's album & then this beat. it's totally different man. If anything, his beats were repetitive on 2001 (im cool with it, they were bumping)
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Rebel on April 03, 2007, 06:16:06 PM
People will never stop complaining. That beat is a dope beat and its thumpin' hard... simple and plain. Does every beat that Dre puts out for ANOTHER artists have to be "mind blowing chronic/detox" shit?
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 03, 2007, 06:25:41 PM
People will never stop complaining. That beat is a dope beat and its thumpin' hard... simple and plain. Does every beat that Dre puts out for ANOTHER artists have to be "mind blowing chronic/detox" shit?

homie dre could put out the wackest beat and you would stil feel it, we both know that....now that aint a dig at you but i get the impression you dig anything dre does, even if there is shit much better out right now....dre is a super producer, the shit he does should stand out against what other people are doing....like it use to consistantly a few years back....but right now it aint happening....i do not see nobody in here saying we expect every dre beat to be the best beat ever, but when niggaz wait so long for a dre beat, we expect some bangning shit atleast....if your telling me right now dre is on top of his game....i feel sorry for dre, cuz then he should retire....i believe dre can and will come much better than this....because this is a average beat at best....dre or anybody else....

i still look forward to every dre beat, but i judge them farily....i feel dre is slowly improving but right now dre reminds me of the level he was when xzibit dropped his Man vs Machine album....he was kinda in between working on his old sound and his now old detox sound and alot of his shit was either aight or weak....right now dre is at that level....until dre does not completely fin his new sound, people gon continue to criticize....thats why 50's album is very important for dre....or any other album which he produces on before detox drops....because that will help raise the buzz for dre even further....and get people buzzing about dre's detox even more
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 03, 2007, 06:26:45 PM
ok, first off this ain't no single, it's a muthafuckin street single. We won't see this on no bet or whatever (i doubt).

and come on Jscrilla, dre's beats recently have been repetitive? not at all dog.

most of his beats haven't had that classic dre sound. Listen to the beats on Jay's album & then this beat. it's totally different man. If anything, his beats were repetitive on 2001 (im cool with it, they were bumping)

dres beats on jiggaz album was very dre-ish imo.....just not amazing dre shit....it still had everything dre does in a beat...he just did not do it very well....imo
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on April 03, 2007, 06:27:58 PM
i must be the only one who doesn't like Boss' Life
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Rebel on April 03, 2007, 06:32:48 PM
People will never stop complaining. That beat is a dope beat and its thumpin' hard... simple and plain. Does every beat that Dre puts out for ANOTHER artists have to be "mind blowing chronic/detox" shit?

homie dre could put out the wackest beat and you would stil feel it, we both know that....now that aint a dig at you but i get the impression you dig anything dre does, even if there is shit much better out right now....dre is a super producer, the shit he does should stand out against what other people are doing....like it use to consistantly a few years back....but right now it aint happening....i do not see nobody in here saying we expect every dre beat to be the best beat ever, but when niggaz wait so long for a dre beat, we expect some bangning shit atleast....if your telling me right now dre is on top of his game....i feel sorry for dre, cuz then he should retire....i believe dre can and will come much better than this....because this is a average beat at best....dre or anybody else....

i still look forward to every dre beat, but i judge them farily....i feel dre is slowly improving but right now dre reminds me of the level he was when xzibit dropped his Man vs Machine album....he was kinda in between working on his old sound and his now old detox sound and alot of his shit was either aight or weak....right now dre is at that level....until dre does not completely fin his new sound, people gon continue to criticize....thats why 50's album is very important for dre....or any other album which he produces on before detox drops....because that will help raise the buzz for dre even further....and get people buzzing about dre's detox even more

You're wrong... there are plenty of Dre beats that I dont really feel... but I think this is a dope beat. I also think that some people's perseption of 50 clouds their judgement. For example... if a westcoast artist rapped over this same beat (e.g. Kurupt)... than I garantee you'd find more people on this board lovin' this track.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 03, 2007, 06:36:01 PM
Don't worry about Detox. Dre has the best ghost writers and ghost producers making Detox, so it'll definatly be tight. As for Dre falling off, that was already known. It takes him 6 months to come out with 4 beats.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 03, 2007, 06:46:14 PM
People will never stop complaining. That beat is a dope beat and its thumpin' hard... simple and plain. Does every beat that Dre puts out for ANOTHER artists have to be "mind blowing chronic/detox" shit?

homie dre could put out the wackest beat and you would stil feel it, we both know that....now that aint a dig at you but i get the impression you dig anything dre does, even if there is shit much better out right now....dre is a super producer, the shit he does should stand out against what other people are doing....like it use to consistantly a few years back....but right now it aint happening....i do not see nobody in here saying we expect every dre beat to be the best beat ever, but when niggaz wait so long for a dre beat, we expect some bangning shit atleast....if your telling me right now dre is on top of his game....i feel sorry for dre, cuz then he should retire....i believe dre can and will come much better than this....because this is a average beat at best....dre or anybody else....

i still look forward to every dre beat, but i judge them farily....i feel dre is slowly improving but right now dre reminds me of the level he was when xzibit dropped his Man vs Machine album....he was kinda in between working on his old sound and his now old detox sound and alot of his shit was either aight or weak....right now dre is at that level....until dre does not completely fin his new sound, people gon continue to criticize....thats why 50's album is very important for dre....or any other album which he produces on before detox drops....because that will help raise the buzz for dre even further....and get people buzzing about dre's detox even more

You're wrong... there are plenty of Dre beats that I dont really feel... but I think this is a dope beat. I also think that some people's perseption of 50 clouds their judgement. For example... if a westcoast artist rapped over this same beat (e.g. Kurupt)... than I garantee you'd find more people on this board lovin' this track.

^^^thats def true, im sure people would prefer this if kurupt was spittin over it...BUT with me its not like that but ofcourse alot of people on this board came on here because they love westcoast music....so im sure they would prefer westcoast cats over dre beats....yes i came on this board through love for westcoast cats and shit....and still to this day i would prefer westcoast cats working with dre....simply because i feel the chemistry is better....but i have no complaints with dre working with anyone from any other coast either....like to me....kurupt has been washed up for soo long, i couldnt give a fuck about nigga no mo....he gonna have to try and look to grab my attention instead of me looking for heat off him, feel me?........i love the westcoast more than other coast, but i see myself bumpin biggie and nas recently more than any one else....music is music to me....but i see what your saying

so to me, im objective about whoever spitting over a dre beat....to me the beat is not weak....but it is not banging either....and 50 in my honest opinion....dissapioints....he does not really spit like he can, his flow is weak....hook is weak.....

50 dropping an album is an event for hiphop....so i expect big things....

kinda like a justin timberlake album for white pop/rnb fans....

an event like usher for rnb/soul fans

alicia keys for female soul listeners...

micheal jacskon to everyone....

like when an eminem album drops....

50 has put himself in a situation with the amount of money he made and albums his sold for himself and for hiphop that his album is going to be an evernt....so people expect big things....to me this is not "big"

thats just my opinion but you see what im tryna say? i aint saying his anywhere as good as the likes of mj, usher, eminem but simply these cats are all different but are the few events which take place every so often....

to me 50 has alot of proving to do after the massacre....and this has not either helped or weakened his case....but he should have come back with a bang! haha....


pz

Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 03, 2007, 06:47:51 PM
man every one buys 50, and he aint evan sayin nuttin interestin
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 03, 2007, 06:50:25 PM
hopefully hes savin his best stuff for his album.... but lately his beats have been a lil repetitive



that's what everyone is saying, people thinking he's just going to be pullin classic beats out of his ass?



past few YEARS dude has been dropping repetitive average beats.  WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: The King on April 03, 2007, 06:51:05 PM
You guys complain about Dre beats like your paid by the post! Dre been making these kind of beats for the last 6 years! "Lose your mind" etc. You peoples expectations are WAY too high. You complain about Timbalands beat, you complain about Dre, you complain about Storch, Quik etc. What in the mainstream pleases you? Personally I like this beat, if you don't, thats too bad for YOU. If you don't like a Dre beat, why does it automatically mean Dre's fallen off?

People's expectations are unrealistically high, for almost everything Dre releases. Let him make his beats, and stop complaining. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a good beat.

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WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic

Why would one diddy track or one 50 track, RUIN a entire album. Its nonsense, and an idiotic thing to say.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 03, 2007, 06:56:49 PM
y would dre work with 2 wack ass rapers???
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 03, 2007, 06:57:41 PM
You guys complain about Dre beats like your paid by the post! Dre been making these kind of beats for the last 6 years! "Lose your mind" etc. You peoples expectations are WAY too high. You complain about Timbalands beat, you complain about Dre, you complain about Storch, Quik etc. What in the mainstream pleases you? Personally I like this beat, if you don't, thats too bad for YOU. If you don't like a Dre beat, why does it automatically mean Dre's fallen off?

People's expectations are unrealistically high, for almost everything Dre releases. Let him make his beats, and stop complaining. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a good beat.

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WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic

Why would one diddy track or one 50 track, RUIN a entire album. Its nonsense, and an idiotic thing to say.

I bet if this beat was for The Game, you'd say it was garbage. :loser:
Dre puts these ridiculously high expectations on himself.

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WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic

Why would one diddy track or one 50 track, RUIN a entire album. Its nonsense, and an idiotic thing to say.
A classic has to have no skipable tracks. One bad song can ruin that.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 03, 2007, 06:58:38 PM
You guys complain about Dre beats like your paid by the post! Dre been making these kind of beats for the last 6 years! "Lose your mind" etc. You peoples expectations are WAY too high. You complain about Timbalands beat, you complain about Dre, you complain about Storch, Quik etc. What in the mainstream pleases you? Personally I like this beat, if you don't, thats too bad for YOU. If you don't like a Dre beat, why does it automatically mean Dre's fallen off?

People's expectations are unrealistically high, for almost everything Dre releases. Let him make his beats, and stop complaining. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a good beat.

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WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic

Why would one diddy track or one 50 track, RUIN a entire album. Its nonsense, and an idiotic thing to say.


so then whats the purpose of an opinion playa?haha.....

by the way....i never complain about shit which is commercial or a banger as long as its dope....some of the shit timbaland been releasing has been bangin and right now production wise timbaland is ahead of dre...but is dre saving his best shit for detox? who knows.....this dre/50 joint has zero energy....music must have some sort of energy....this has none......50 should have got timbaland to produce some more shit for his album....or kept the joint he did for timbalands album for his own album and released that as a buzz single even if it has yayo on it...

my expectations for dre aint too high, they are realistic....and thats how it should be with dre....and i am sure its how he wants it...because when the expectation gets lower, dre wont be dre no mo

pz
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 03, 2007, 06:59:18 PM
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A classic has to have no skipable tracks. One bad song can ruin that.

Rhythm-al-ism  8) 8) 8) u aint gotta skip shit
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: hey hey hey hey smoke weed everyday on April 03, 2007, 07:17:38 PM
the only recent dre beat that i didnt like is the nas track and some of the ones on kingdome come.. and this 50 track is BANGIN!! best track of 07 for me.. when u listen to that shit in yo ride its fucking crazy! i know detox will be great.. if it isnt ima cut my dick off! and my balls
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: J$crILLa on April 03, 2007, 07:26:10 PM
You guys complain about Dre beats like your paid by the post! Dre been making these kind of beats for the last 6 years! "Lose your mind" etc. You peoples expectations are WAY too high. You complain about Timbalands beat, you complain about Dre, you complain about Storch, Quik etc. What in the mainstream pleases you? Personally I like this beat, if you don't, thats too bad for YOU. If you don't like a Dre beat, why does it automatically mean Dre's fallen off?

People's expectations are unrealistically high, for almost everything Dre releases. Let him make his beats, and stop complaining. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a good beat.

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WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic

Why would one diddy track or one 50 track, RUIN a entire album. Its nonsense, and an idiotic thing to say.

we IT COULD POSSIBLY RUIN 2 SONGS..... and on dres last 2 albums there werent 2 bad songs on either.... so......  it ruin a classic maybe not the whole album, but could stop it from becoming a classic in many peoples minds
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 03, 2007, 07:45:47 PM
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know detox will be great.. if it isnt ima cut my dick off! and my balls

dude wtf are u gonna do if its tottal shit
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: dameons on April 03, 2007, 07:50:49 PM
This song thumps...Top notch production....Don't be too picky with this shit...A great beat, multiple sounds going on at once, like classic Dr Dre...
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: R-Tistic on April 03, 2007, 08:01:15 PM
You guys complain about Dre beats like your paid by the post! Dre been making these kind of beats for the last 6 years! "Lose your mind" etc. You peoples expectations are WAY too high. You complain about Timbalands beat, you complain about Dre, you complain about Storch, Quik etc. What in the mainstream pleases you? Personally I like this beat, if you don't, thats too bad for YOU. If you don't like a Dre beat, why does it automatically mean Dre's fallen off?

People's expectations are unrealistically high, for almost everything Dre releases. Let him make his beats, and stop complaining. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't a good beat.

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WIth 50 and Diddy on Detox it's not going to be classic

Why would one diddy track or one 50 track, RUIN a entire album. Its nonsense, and an idiotic thing to say.

we IT COULD POSSIBLY RUIN 2 SONGS..... and on dres last 2 albums there werent 2 bad songs on either.... so......  it ruin a classic maybe not the whole album, but could stop it from becoming a classic in many peoples minds

Watch those two songs not even be the worst songs on the album....
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: hey hey hey hey smoke weed everyday on April 03, 2007, 08:18:03 PM
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know detox will be great.. if it isnt ima cut my dick off! and my balls

dude wtf are u gonna do if its tottal shit
man i dont give a fuck! detox better be good.. if it aint life sucks and i dont wanna live no more!  nah just kiddin man but i hope its good!
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 03, 2007, 08:20:57 PM
LOL, how can anybody doubt Dre
 8)

We'll just have to see
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on April 03, 2007, 08:22:50 PM
LOL, how can anybody doubt Dre
 8)

We'll just have to see

I can.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 03, 2007, 08:27:50 PM
i can as well

i cant beleve he got 50 on it

as soon as the gay unit boys are on summin i cant evan bring my self to lsiten to it, onyl a few songs with g unit are coll  but, its like 50 cent, i fuckin hate him
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on April 03, 2007, 08:28:47 PM
i can as well

i cant beleve he got 50 on it

as soon as the gay unit boys are on summin i cant evan bring my self to lsiten to it, onyl a few songs with g unit are coll  but, its like 50 cent, i fuckin hate him

??? You act like this is the first 50 cent track with dre behind the boards LOL
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on April 03, 2007, 11:21:42 PM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)
What the fuck do you want homie!!! Get the fuck off his nutz!!! Dre Does hundreds of fucken beatz and you want every motherfucking beat to be a motherfcuking banger!!! You have to be realistic fool!! He aint just gonna give his best shit to whoever the fuck wants it! Im not saying that all his beatz are sick but when dre comes wit an average track, you fagets start bombing on him!! You just have to shut the fuck up and let him do his thang! He had some tight shit on Snoop Shit and Busta Shit!! What the fuck you talking bout fool! He cant always make masterpiece!!
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: greko on April 03, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
For me that beat was also a kind of throwback tot the chronic era. Damn that 50's laugh is stuck in my head and it's so annoying...
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Low Key on April 04, 2007, 12:59:33 AM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)
What the fuck do you want homie!!! Get the fuck off his nutz!!! Dre Does hundreds of fucken beatz and you want every motherfucking beat to be a motherfcuking banger!!! You have to be realistic fool!! He aint just gonna give his best shit to whoever the fuck wants it! Im not saying that all his beatz are sick but when dre comes wit an average track, you fagets start bombing on him!! You just have to shut the fuck up and let him do his thang! He had some tight shit on Snoop Shit and Busta Shit!! What the fuck you talking bout fool! He cant always make masterpiece!!

Calm down. You act like you are personal friends with Dre.

The reason people are so critical of Dre is because for upwars of 10 years, all he did was release the best music you could buy. Now, it is VERY apparent that he doesn't have the same drive. You can't tell me that some of his beats lately have started to sound the same. If you do, you are deaf. Point is, with his mediocre beats of late, and his shoddy rumored appearances on the album, it is very easy to visualize a Dre album that is no where near the level of his other albums. It is not something that any west coast fan wants to think about, but that is the cold, hard truth.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: THETRUTHUG on April 04, 2007, 01:19:10 AM
i really dont like this new dre beat  :-\

but i still think detox willl be the shit! :o
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: The Predator on April 04, 2007, 01:20:33 AM
Yew another basic dud from Dre recently.

Yo D.O.C do ya fuckin job and tell Dre whats up!

Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Meho on April 04, 2007, 02:58:00 AM
People are never satisfied with mainstream producers. Timbaland is giving us some next level stuff right now and people are still complaining.

I think Dre gave his best beats (as in non Detox leftovers) in the whole Em/50/Xzibit/Marjy/Eva era. And then a few experimental beats on projects like Documenary (How We Do and Higher, the rest was old stuff changed a lil bit), Massacre and GRODT Ost (both Outta Controls, the rest was old stuff changed), untill Big Bang came along where he first of all co-produced a lot of dope stuff and also his solo beats Get You Some, Dont Get Carried Away, Over Here and Legend Of The Fall Offs were banging and experimental.

Now this 50 project will definetly have some of the best Dre track, simply because 50 has a good ear for Dre beats. People are complaining about this beat but dont realize that thats probably the best Dre beat since Outta Control remix. Why ? Because it has that old school Dre bassline, beat cahnges several times and its finally a true banger from Dre. All those beats on Jayz, Snoop, Nas, Buck were boring, mellow, had no bassline or thump whatsoever. And I blame Mark Batson for this because him and Dre make boring beats.

Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on April 04, 2007, 03:32:28 AM
man every one buys 50, and he aint evan sayin nuttin interestin

says the guy with all the albums of the lyrical god aka mc eiht in his sig  :D
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on April 04, 2007, 04:11:57 AM
haven't been feeling Dre's beats for a while now but I think this is one of his better ones, and like stated before 50 has a good ear for Dre beats so he is not going to put the leftover ones on his album
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on April 04, 2007, 04:21:14 AM
Tracks on his solo albums are always doper than tracks he produces for others in the same year his own album comes out.
Just look at 1999 when he produced  tracks like "Bitch Please" and "Guilty Conscience" which were dope but not as sick as the tracks from his own 2001 album.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 04, 2007, 05:55:53 AM
people bring up Timbo


LMAO, Timbo's beats have been SHITTING on Dre's beat for the past few years.  Last year Dre wasn't touchin Timbo on any level



and how can Detox be classic if there are going to be average to weak tracks on it, 50 and Diddy does not = classic
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Cheese on April 04, 2007, 06:44:56 AM
finally people are starting to realize Dre fell the fuck of.. This new 50 beat is wack, like almost everything Dre dropped recently.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: RoscoeDpG on April 04, 2007, 07:42:52 AM
i dont think he has fallen off like someone said that new 50 track just bumbs but u are right there are less then great but even saying that these beats are better then most that are out, plus i do feel like he makes diff sounds for some artist so this might just be what 50 wanted but im sure detox will have some new style dre changing it all again
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 04, 2007, 08:47:37 AM
we all know dre been in this game for time,

and hes porbly got beats in the vault, that he made 2 years ago for this album, it also feels like hes a bit worried to release it, because its so anticipated, and he doesent want to disapoint

but i tihnk that beat is summin 50 would of wanted, sounds a bit clubby,
i think detox gonna sound completly diff from anything
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on April 04, 2007, 09:05:21 AM
IMO, it's not a question of Has Dr. Dre Fallen off!!!
But has Dre finaly reached his next level reaching ability.
To us Long time Dre listener's (Since Jumpstreet one's....)
We still manage a way to find a "Head Nod" in everything Dre drop's post "The Chronic"...
(From the Aftermath Present's through all the Firm,Em,50,Eve,Busta ect...)
OldSchool still Had Dre's back & His Spot was never questioned.
(Besides by Quik, by us true's)

Where as the young kid's of today, who don't remember or appreciate yesterday have fallen sick of
us oldschool Kat's holding on to the past, And talking about how great it was...
Again opinion's are like assholes, We all have one.
This is my observation/Opinion about this "New" Hip-Hop movement

Expectation's have reached :laugh: status IMO....
It's only music right?, but then again to my older peep's is it still our movement?

How many times have you turned on the Radio/Video ect & listened to that crap being played on it?
How many times have you said to yourself WTF why is this shit selling?
ect...

Hip-Hop music has passed us by my 30 & Over...
It's a young thing.
This might be their way of telling us to move the fuck on, let's let the young enjoy their hip-hop.
after Detox, I just might do that.

I still got my 88'-96

(All this from one "Wack" Dre beat...lol, for the record I got 50's new joint on repeat HOT!....)

Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Larrabee on April 04, 2007, 09:15:34 AM
Everyone's got a right to their own opinion. To each to their own, I personally think Dre's been pretty decent lately, in that he's been delivering good music, but maybe not CLASSIC shit. I would assume that that's his goal for now. To go with the flow and release beats that maybe not everyone's gonna feel...have cats say he's fallen off, because when Detox comes he wants to knock people on their ass.

If everyone is high on Dre's sound by the time his album drops, it will ruin the way they listen to Detox.

Think about it, wouldn't it make sense to hit people with beats that are just aight, and then save the best shit for Detox. There's a method to Dre's madness, just like any other great producer. To be honest, I only really dig about half of the beats he's dropped in the last year. The rest was decent, quaility material but just not my personal favorites. The new 50 joint is tight, but where's the proof that Dre even did it...it could be produced by ( ??? ) and mixed by Dre...or additional production by Dre.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 04, 2007, 09:17:51 AM
if tribe called quest release a album today it would sound like thay first, every tribe album keeps the same style its y there so fuckin good
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tempo2 on April 04, 2007, 11:25:07 AM
shit no matter how good detox is its never going to live up to everyones expectations. even if it is great all the hatters will be saying "it aint a classic" i think this proves how good dre is as a producer, musical genious and a legend in the rap game, even when hes shit is pecieved to be weak it still gets everyone talking, im sorry but he's the most talked about rap artist and producer in the whole rap industry, no shit! every hip hop board your on its dre this dre that.....thats a sign of someone whos on top of the game. id i almost guarantee detox will be absoloutley dope mark my words....i mean how many times do the haters want him to fail and then he comes back on top and re-invents the game? he's been doing this for 2 long and the most succesfull at it for him to set himself up for failure. trust me some people are born to stay at the top of there profession.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: No Compute on April 04, 2007, 11:50:07 AM
I agree his recent beats have been boring and so on but I'm not going to judge Detox yet (especially thorugh the use of speculation, Diddy on Detox seems to be a favourite of Long Beach's), it isn't hard to believe that Dre will deliver the goods in the time of need. If he does there's going to be a lot of people looking idiotic and likewise if he doesn't. Detox will be the defining moment.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: The Great Elephant on April 04, 2007, 01:42:03 PM
the reason dre stopped on detox 2 years ago was because songs for the artists he produces for would suffer.  now he's working on detox and there are obvoiusly shortcomings.  these beats aren't wack by any means, but they're definitely not finished.  thats all there is to it.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: tonysmallz on April 04, 2007, 02:28:53 PM
^^ i think he jsut wants to get it perfect so now one can say shit about it
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Layeth THe Smacketh Down on April 04, 2007, 04:36:07 PM
The two tracks on Buck The World were just average, but this 50 track is dope.  The majority of his recent tracks have been dope, especially the stuff he did with Snoop.  Every track he makes is not a classic change your life beat, but his shit is stil dope.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: pill on April 04, 2007, 05:16:29 PM
more and more Im thinking that them jackin 4 beats rumors are true. When Mel-men left so did the sound. But now he's back wit tha doc I have more faith for detox
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Rebel on April 04, 2007, 05:25:08 PM
The two tracks on Buck The World were just average, but this 50 track is dope.  The majority of his recent tracks have been dope, especially the stuff he did with Snoop.  Every track he makes is not a classic change your life beat, but his shit is stil dope.

Pretty much. Also, 50 is signed to him... Buck isn't so of course 50 will get better production.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Louie760 on April 04, 2007, 09:48:34 PM
i think tha beat is tight, but that (ha, ha, ha ha) shit on the song is stupid!
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Low Key on April 04, 2007, 11:04:57 PM
My friend made me listen to the song today. All in all, the beat wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but jesus does 50 Cent suck as a rapper.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: XaNdEr on April 05, 2007, 12:04:35 AM
here we go again.... ::)
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 05, 2007, 07:39:04 AM
Actually that was probably the worst 50 has spit over a dre beat....remind me if im wrong, but i think this is
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: AfterMathematics on April 05, 2007, 08:06:12 AM
To put things in perspective, this isn't exactly the first time that people said Dre fell off. It may be hard to believe now, but after he left Ruthless people thought he couldn't do it without NWA. Then after he left Death Row, people said he really fell the fuck off with the Aftermath compilation, Firm, and singles like Zoom. If you remember from the dreday.com board discussions, not everyone was convinced that 2001 was going to be dope before it came out, mostly because of his hit or miss releases over the years before that.

Of course 2001 dropped and changed a lot of people's minds again. Then he had a steady stream of hits with Marshall Mather's LP and 50's debut. When everyone expects you to release classics every time you drop, you're bound to disappoint fans at some point. I think Dre's still better off than he was during the post Death Row/pre 2001 era, but it remains to be seen if Detox can really touch the Chronic and 2001. After all, if you think about it, the guy's been in the game for 20 years. The magic's gonna run out at some point. 
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on April 05, 2007, 04:51:26 PM
To put things in perspective, this isn't exactly the first time that people said Dre fell off. It may be hard to believe now, but after he left Ruthless people thought he couldn't do it without NWA. Then after he left Death Row, people said he really fell the fuck off with the Aftermath compilation, Firm, and singles like Zoom. If you remember from the dreday.com board discussions, not everyone was convinced that 2001 was going to be dope before it came out, mostly because of his hit or miss releases over the years before that.

Of course 2001 dropped and changed a lot of people's minds again. Then he had a steady stream of hits with Marshall Mather's LP and 50's debut. When everyone expects you to release classics every time you drop, you're bound to disappoint fans at some point. I think Dre's still better off than he was during the post Death Row/pre 2001 era, but it remains to be seen if Detox can really touch the Chronic and 2001. After all, if you think about it, the guy's been in the game for 20 years. The magic's gonna run out at some point. 



the beats Dre was doing on the Top Dogg album were classic: Bitch Please, Buck em, Just Dippen....




dude just fell off












he needs mel man
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: XaNdEr on April 06, 2007, 08:23:15 AM
lol, he didnt fell off, though his last few beats sound awful, i have to give you that. but for a producer with so many classic tracks on your resume, it takes more then a bunch of wack songs to say youre washed up imo.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: You Ain't Shit on April 06, 2007, 11:10:45 AM
its 50 cent who fucks tha track up, SNOOP DOGG would sound fuckin dope on that beat, can u imagine ;)
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Tanjential on April 06, 2007, 03:15:03 PM
"can you imagiiine..." sorry stuck in my head now


ANYWAY, check my "for those who hate on my dre fandom" post, I respond to alot of the ideas here.

-T
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Nasty Nem on April 06, 2007, 06:17:28 PM
its a good beat

he cant drop classics all the time you idiots
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Tanjential on April 07, 2007, 12:26:43 AM
its a good beat

he cant drop classics all the time you idiots

props

-T
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Nasty Nem on April 07, 2007, 06:09:46 AM
dre is such a fuckin legend that everyone expect a 'gin and juice' or 'next episode' every time he drops a beat

if he sticks with the same shit, he's boring and he doesn't know how to expand

if he tries a different sound (jay,snoop) he's fallin off and should stick to the script

this forum is full of weeping bitches
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: XaNdEr on April 07, 2007, 07:40:38 AM
dre is such a fuckin legend that everyone expect a 'gin and juice' or 'next episode' every time he drops a beat

if he sticks with the same shit, he's boring and he doesn't know how to expand

if he tries a different sound (jay,snoop) he's fallin off and should stick to the script

this forum is full of weeping bitches


+1, real talk
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Matty on April 07, 2007, 05:03:40 PM
come on guys bump the instrumental version for a while then say its a wack effort. might not be standout but the beat is crisp from dre and this isn't even a proper single either. i got a feeling 50 is gonna use something from timbaland for his lead single though.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on April 07, 2007, 05:27:49 PM
come on guys bump the instrumental version for a while then say its a wack effort. might not be standout but the beat is crisp from dre and this isn't even a proper single either. i got a feeling 50 is gonna use something from timbaland for his lead single though.

man what ya talk about this beat Bangs!!! Dre's beat or not, This beat is surely Hot..its a good hype beat
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Matty on April 07, 2007, 07:21:05 PM
thats actually what im saying :p
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: notorious^q8I on April 07, 2007, 07:31:29 PM
how do we know its a dre track
remember his street single from the massacre he said it was dre and cd booklet says its some 1 else
a song from yayo album was supposed to be a dre track and ended up being a focus track
typical G unit promo move
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Tanjential on April 08, 2007, 12:19:56 AM
how do we know its a dre track
remember his street single from the massacre he said it was dre and cd booklet says its some 1 else
a song from yayo album was supposed to be a dre track and ended up being a focus track
typical G unit promo move
which tracks were those? cause i'm down for those tracks


furthermore, 'straight to the bank' is a dope ass beat to me


-T
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Matty on April 08, 2007, 05:44:58 AM
i think that was disco inferno people were thinking it could be a dre production for a while....this one obviously is though...
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Brigante on April 10, 2007, 04:47:18 AM
If there isn't at least one g-funk laced track on Detox, it's not touching The Chronic.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Chief on April 10, 2007, 06:23:36 AM
the tracks sounds like it used a similar sample to a track game spat on... cant remember the track, but i think it was a gunit diss......
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Lindon on April 17, 2007, 08:13:02 AM
how do we know its a dre track
remember his street single from the massacre he said it was dre and cd booklet says its some 1 else
a song from yayo album was supposed to be a dre track and ended up being a focus track
typical G unit promo move

According to the official Aftermath site this aint dre produced. On http://aftermath-entertainment.com/ it says its produced by Ty Fife mixed by dre...
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Westcoastfanatic on April 17, 2007, 08:20:33 AM
If there isn't at least one g-funk laced track on Detox, it's not touching The Chronic.

G-Funk's played out. Detox should have a sick new innovative sound.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: R-Tistic on April 17, 2007, 08:28:54 AM
how do we know its a dre track
remember his street single from the massacre he said it was dre and cd booklet says its some 1 else
a song from yayo album was supposed to be a dre track and ended up being a focus track
typical G unit promo move

According to the official Aftermath site this aint dre produced. On http://aftermath-entertainment.com/ it says its produced by Ty Fife mixed by dre...

LMFAO wow...............

If this isn't the 100th time, no exaggerations, that this has happened.....
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Blu Lacez on April 17, 2007, 10:28:05 AM
how do we know its a dre track
remember his street single from the massacre he said it was dre and cd booklet says its some 1 else
a song from yayo album was supposed to be a dre track and ended up being a focus track
typical G unit promo move

According to the official Aftermath site this aint dre produced. On http://aftermath-entertainment.com/ it says its produced by Ty Fife mixed by dre...

LMFAO wow...............

If this isn't the 100th time, no exaggerations, that this has happened.....

--Well if that is true..then i can see how Ty Fife made that beat on a Dre- style
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on April 17, 2007, 10:55:51 AM
People will never stop complaining. That beat is a dope beat and its thumpin' hard... simple and plain. Does every beat that Dre puts out for ANOTHER artists have to be "mind blowing chronic/detox" shit?

i concur!
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: djlocskeet on April 17, 2007, 11:21:46 AM
Dre might be givin niggaz scraps and keepin good the good shit for his album.
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: arthurnelson88 on April 17, 2007, 11:48:32 AM
u gotta think tho wat producer/rapper is gona put out they best beats 4 other rappers, sure its his label but everybody gets marketed different.  lissen 2 tha style of tha beats, sure its tha same boom boom, thump sound but tha sound is different.  "In Da Hood - 50" vs. "Murder These Murderers - Kam", same Dre sound different form of beats.  "In The Ghetto - Busta" vs. "30 Something - Jay" same instruments, different sound, i gues u mite have 2 b a producer 2 kno wat im talkin bout.  but wat im tryna say is that all these beats got that signature sound but are on a different level of production.  yeah Timbaland beats are crankin dont git it twisted, but how many CLASSICS does he have???  every producer has a good sound, y u think they in tha industry (they juss dont sign everybody).  look at my boi Polow, nigga bangin out dat shit, but theres no classic-classic shit, sure he gona b hot 4 a lil minute and i hope he stay around but fact of the matter is we'll hear anotha "Get Buck" in a couple of years (repetitiveness).  As 4 Snoop how can u say they're borin' when "Boss Life", "Round Here", "Imagine" were all heavy.  Detox will prolly b on some new shit, shit it mite even have 2 grow on u, u aint gonna hear those same gfunk synths and snares or those still dre pianos anymore, Detox will b on somethin else, same formula different sounds i bet...  everybody's killin' tha hype about Detox b4 its even put out, stop makin these threads... "Detox will b..." "Dre's Beats..." "Who u think will b on Detox" "What will Detox sound like" "Is Detox gonna top The Chronic" "Detox wont be" "Dre's new beats vs. Old Beats" "Is Detox" "Dre's sound" ( http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=5751.0 ) .  i've been on this board 4 six/seven years (under different names) and all it is is tha same shit.  We should just make a sticky about EVERYTHING Detox related.  I've been itchin 4 it 2 belive it but this shit is startin 2 sound like an obsession rather than topics.  Point Blank Detox is gonna sound better than 90% of tha albums released in tha last 8 years, regaurdless if Diddy, 50, Fergie, or whoever tha fuck is on there or not.  It's Dre's ALBUM not somebody elses rememeber that, even Kurupt sounded tite on 2001- and Kurupt aint dropped a high level 16 in like 10 years.  It wont b a dissapointment unless u lookin 4 dre 2 go in tha DeathRow vaults and update tha instrumentals and 16's, juss chill and b patient, Detox will b that shit.  i dont know wat ya'll complainin about MOST of ya'll are gona download it anyway. 
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: The_Urban_Legend on April 17, 2007, 08:06:05 PM
i have to admit when i first heard this i was disapointed. I agree i thought dre had fell off, but after a few listens it has really grown on me and now is my favourite song at the moment. My only problem with it is that fuckin shit laugh in the hook that sounds like yayo's voice. appart from that its  great track
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: wcsoldier on April 17, 2007, 10:11:26 PM
1st the beat is dope , 2ndly this ain't produced by Dre (only mixed) then it's a street single... song is dope , 50 is ok with the lyrics, flow is on point.. the only weakness is that gay chorus .. kinda surprising since 50 is usually the dopest rapper on the hook, this one isn't even a hook, just a line and then Yayo laughin.. at least this is way better than Disco Inferno... if this song shows what the album gonna be, I'm pleased with that.. (at least no Candy Shop type of BS).. by the way I'm waiting for the 1st single, as another dude said I think it'll be a Timbo prod and 50 knows how to pick a beat so it might be a banger
Title: Re: How can you listen to that new 50 single, and say Dre hasn't fallen off?
Post by: Chief on April 18, 2007, 03:23:52 AM
time to be real, Detox is going to TOUCH chronic, let alone chronic 2001



his beats ALL sounding the same and are mediocre, his recent beats have been average at best.  He did come real nice on that Boss Life track though, but that's a Snoop track so it's to be expected




really lookin forward to those 50 detox tracks  ::)

when did the STREET single drop? it's already gettin hella spins in australia.

the beats off the hook, and the track bangs, just the content kinda sucks, even still i turn the shit up when i hear it.