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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Meho on April 04, 2007, 09:52:56 AM
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Got this from another forum
-Olivia dropped from G Unit
-50's tired of putting out heat for his artists, time for them to shine on their own
-Said Cam isn't smart enough to realize he already lost
-Laughed about Cam saying he bodied Jay, Nas & 50
-Said to him Young Buck is in the same space he held Game
-Has a deal w/Youtube.com, anything with his name on it, he gets credit for.
-Youtube will be a big sponsor of his new album
-Said he ain't smashin Ciara
-and the yayo thing he said he wasn't there he was in C.T.,And also said that yayo didn't touch that boy either
"50 was on the HOT 97 morning show this morning and he said now he puts Young Buck in the same Boat as Game. He feels Buck didnt show loyalty by tryin to make peace with Game. He also said, if he (50) has beef with somebody then everybody in the G-Unit camp should ride. then he went on to basically say Buck got played by Game because Game dissed him (buck) on the new freestyle. When asked if Buck is aware of how he feels about the situation 50 said "yes"
HERE'S THE AUDIO: http://www.sendspace.com/file/iv5xwc
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don't you ever get tired of yourself?
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Good moves by 50. Olivia wasn't that great of a singer anyways. And Buck should smarten the fuck up.
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this is great,
soon it will be 50 shit pice all on his own, then he will ahve to bring in new rappers to fill his lable, thay sill suck and hopefully thay will al just go away, and people will start to relize that good beats dont make a good rapper......
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don't you ever get tired of yourself?
lol...he can't help it
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Ok, so I just listened to it myself. Seems like hes getting tired of having to take care of all his GUnit artists. That he took many sacrifices like edning Mssacre sooner to get Mobb Deep project out. He said its time for them to be their own man, he cant hold them back from using their full potential. About Buck he did say that he loves him and thats his young brother and theres no beef, he just doesnt like that hes ending beefs with his rivals.
Said if Curtis aint better than GRODT, its because thats a classic, but definetly better than Massacre. He already completed his 4th album Before I Self Destruct, drops Feb 4th and then greatest hits and his contract is done.
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game really fucked up g-unit.lol...they were the shit back in the day
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game really fucked up g-unit.lol...they were the shit back in the day
50 Cent is fucking up himself. Getting mad at Buck becuase he wants to end beef. That's proof that 50 is a bitch.
Olivia being dropped. :o ::)
50 needs to stop treating his G-Unit like a fuckin' gang and more like a record label.
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back in the day thay have only been together like 3 years
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If Buck parts ways with 50, it could be a bad move for G-Unit, as Buck just put out the best album on that label since Beg 4 Mercy.
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-50's tired of putting out heat for his artists, time for them to shine on their own
You can polish shit forever and you'll never get it to shine.
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game really fucked up g-unit.lol...they were the shit back in the day
50 Cent is fucking up himself. Getting mad at Buck becuase he wants to end beef. That's proof that 50 is a bitch.
Olivia being dropped. :o ::)
50 needs to stop treating his G-Unit like a fuckin' gang and more like a record label.
the seed was planted when game got kicked out of the unit and
lil by lil g-unit is falling
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If buck gets kicked from G-Unit.. haha damn wouldn't that be a bitch! I could see alot of g-unit haters liking buck if that happened
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g unit is acting as a gang and not a lable 50 is like "if i hate some i u gotta hate him as well" thats how kids act,
thay need to act more like a lable and less as a crew, if buck leeves, then i tihnk he could do ok on his own, id have more respect for him as a rapper to try it on his own, and not surround him self with big names,
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No one on that label wants to take responsibility for expectations that are not met. I know they did not think it was going to last forever. 50 had no problem being involved in 2 million selling albums and a million plus from Buck and Banks. Ups and downs is part of the business.
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game really fucked up g-unit.lol...they were the shit back in the day
Tell me what the fuck does Game have to do with this ? If Game stayed there would only be another flop to add.
a) If you are refering to sales: Its a normal process, they had a great run for 3,4 years. The history repeats (Death Row, No Limit)
b) If you are refering to group itself, it only made them more connected and loyal
If anyone fucked up GUnit, its 50 Cent himself. He should have never signed Mobb Deep, M.O.P., Hot Rod and Olivia. He already x-ed one out.
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50 Cent called in to Miss Jones’ morning show on New York City’s Hot 97 radio station today (April 4) to discuss Tony Yayo’s situation, his displeasure with Young Buck and the future of G-Unit Records. Below is a recap of the interview.
50’s thoughts on Tony Yayo:
Miss Jones, and her co-host, DJ Envy, asked 50 if he was involved in the alleged assault of Jimmy “Henchmen” Rosemond’s 14-year-old son. “Absolutely not,” 50 said. “I was in Connecticut preparing to go to Angola, Africa.” 50 then went on to say he has security footage from his house proving he was in Connecticut. “I did it for security purposes when I put the cameras around the house, but of course, it will put me in Connecticut,” he said. “I’m walking back and forth through the house, they have cameras in certain areas of the house where you can see me.” 50 then proceeded to reaffirm Yayo’s innocence. “In this case, they are just putting his name in it,” 50 said. “He didn’t hit him.” DJ Envy then asked 50 again, in order to clarify if Yayo assault Rosemond’s son. “No he didn’t,” 50 replied.
On Young Buck:
The conversation then turned to Young Buck, as 50 voiced his displeasure with Buck’s recent attempt to squash his beef with The Game. “If you listen to Angie Martinez’s show, when Young Buck was on there, he made references to him being his own man, his own decisions to try and make friends with people that I have issues with,” 50 said. “I hold him in the same space that I held Game in — in that light. If I have issues with somebody and we’re down with each other, then you have issues with them.” 50 went on to say, “It doesn’t change, like me and Buck [don’t] got beef. He’s [just] in the same space. He’s in the same boat for having the same actions.”
On Olivia:
50 then confirmed that Olivia has been dropped from G-Unit Records. “It’s not that creatively she couldn’t deliver,” he said. “There are just so many miscommunications going on with her actual project.” 50 then went on to reject the rumors Olivia was suing him for sexual misconduct. “Na, that’s not true,” 50 vehemently stated.
On G-Unit Records:
Miss Jones and DJ Envy proceeded to ask 50 about the future of G-Unit Records. “I made sacrifices continuously, not just for Olivia, but for the entire G-Unit,” he said. “At this point, they have to do their thing now. It’s their second album — everybody.” Surprised by his answer, Miss Jones asked, “What happens if they don’t deliver in the next go round?” 50 replied, “If they don’t deliver, then they don’t actually work.”
50 then went on to say, “You should expect to not hear me on any of their [G-Unit’s] stuff. You should expect them to be creating their own projects and their own careers at this point. I’ve made sacrifices, like when I did the “Outta Control Remix.” I did that to set up Mobb Deep. I could have been doing “Get In My Car” or “Build You Up” with Jamie Foxx. I could have continued to sell The Massacre at that point. But I cut the album off in order to create new energy and buzz to set up the Mobb Deep project. When I put out the Get Rich or Die Tryin’ Soundtrack, I could have been doing “I’ll Whip Ya Head Boy” when I was doing “Best Friend” with Olivia.”
On Sha Money’s new role with G-Unit Records:
“Sha Money is no longer the President of G-Unit Records,” 50 said. “Me and Sha sat together and made the decision to help us grow in other areas because I’m not doing as much as I would be doing for each individual artist on G-Unit. We needed him because he’s the most experienced person in our circle. Not just on the actual creative level, but in the corporate end. He’s managing everybody [now]. He’s over Banks, Buck and Yayo.”
On his beef with Cam’ron:
“The Cam’ron thing, I couldn’t use that,” 50 said. “That’s nothing. But because he made the mistake of jumping out there, I jumped on him. To clarify why I was making YouTube videos as opposed to mixtape records is because I have a deal wit YouTube. Everything that says 50 Cent on it, I’m credited for. So if it says “Cam’ron/50 Cent diss,” I get credited for it. “50 Cent parody,” I get credited for. That’s just me playing Cam’ron and them to get them to draw some energy. It’s like life sized pawns.” DJ Envy then asked 50 if he will release any more diss records towards Cam’ron. “I feel like I have to be smart enough not to continue dealing with someone who isn’t intelligent enough to know when they lost,” 50 replied.
On his next album:
Finally, 50 also revealed his next album will be titled Curtis instead of Before I Self Destruct. The album will be released on June 19. “If this album isn’t better than Get Rich or Die Tryin’, it’s definitely better than The Massacre,” he said. 50 also said he’s going to follow up with his fourth album on February 5, 2008, which is a day before the anniversary of Get Rich or Die Tryin’. He went on to say that he signed a five-album deal with Interscope, but the fifth album in his collection will be a greatest hits. 50 did not comment on whether he will resign with Interscope after his deal is up.
Link: http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=8922
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game really fucked up g-unit.lol...they were the shit back in the day
Tell me what the fuck does Game have to do with this ? If Game stayed there would only be another flop to add.
a) If you are refering to sales: Its a normal process, they had a great run for 3,4 years. The history repeats (Death Row, No Limit)
b) If you are refering to group itself, it only made them more connected and loyal
If anyone fucked up GUnit, its 50 Cent himself. He should have never signed Mobb Deep, M.O.P., Hot Rod and Olivia. He already x-ed one out.
ok i remember when the whole world was bumpin g-unit and wearing g-unit shirts and shit like that but right afther game
got kicked out of g-unit the whole world was like ggggg-unot, fuck g-unit.i dont think they have got the respect they had
like they did before all that shit happen with game.
my point is it seems like right afther game got kicked out, g-unit has fallen lil by lil
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They probably lost lets say 2 fans because Game left but Game lost 20 you get my point ?
My point is Game had litle to do with it, as will Cam, Fat Joe, Nas... point is beef doesnt end shit. All people that are saying 50 ended Ja Rules career are idiots. Ja ended his career. It was normal that GUnit as a group wouldnt have the sucess like they did the 1st time, they rode 50s name and 50s not untouchable anymore.
Plus nobody is selling shit these days anyways.
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They probably lost lets say 2 fans because Game left but Game lost 20 you get my point ?
My point is Game had litle to do with it, as will Cam, Fat Joe, Nas... point is beef doesnt end shit. All people that are saying 50 ended Ja Rules career are idiots. Ja ended his career. It was normal that GUnit as a group wouldnt have the sucess like they did the 1st time, they rode 50s name and 50s not untouchable anymore.
Plus nobody is selling shit these days anyways.
You really think Game getting kicked out of G-Unit did that little to their fanbase? Hardly anyone in G-Unit saw Game being kicked out except 50. He did it on a radio show. And G-Unit also hurt themselves just like Ja did. Talking all that sales shit expecting people to just buy it a second go round because it is G-Unit. But the Game thing did hurt G-Unit out west though.
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If buck gets kicked from G-Unit.. haha damn wouldn't that be a bitch! I could see alot of g-unit haters liking buck if that happened
A lot of people (includng people on this forum) like Young Buck, despite there negative feeling towards G-Unit. He is (or was) the most talented rapper on the label.
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On his next album:
Finally, 50 also revealed his next album will be titled Curtis instead of Before I Self Destruct. The album will be released on June 19. “If this album isn’t better than Get Rich or Die Tryin’, it’s definitely better than The Massacre,” he said.
Before The Massacre dropped he said it was 10 times better then GRODT. He pulled a "Game". :laugh:
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50 is on some stupid shit for that dude can't get over himself
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50 is on some stupid shit for that dude can't get over himself
If you were 50 Cents situation you'd be high on yourself too. Money does that to people, all "newer" artists who hit it big act like their the shit, they act like their the richest greatest rapper on the planet. 5 or 10 years from now 50 will modest up and stop his arrogance.
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Got this from another forum
-Olivia dropped from G Unit
-50's tired of putting out heat for his artists, time for them to shine on their own
-Said Cam isn't smart enough to realize he already lost
-Laughed about Cam saying he bodied Jay, Nas & 50
-Said to him Young Buck is in the same space he held Game
-Has a deal w/Youtube.com, anything with his name on it, he gets credit for.
-Youtube will be a big sponsor of his new album
-Said he ain't smashin Ciara
-and the yayo thing he said he wasn't there he was in C.T.,And also said that yayo didn't touch that boy either
hell ya 8)
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Buck is smart. Not for some allegiance w/ Game, but because he can still have a career post G-Unit, where Banks & Yayo will have nothing. He still has potential to sell some records.
And 50 saying he's not helping out the clique anymore and Olivia getting dropped are MAJOR. I'd be willing to bet that Interscope is not willing to put money into these projects as G-Unit sales have continually declined.
And LOL @ 50 acting like he was helping everyone out w/ their albums out of the kindness of his heart. I GUARANTEE he was caking more % wise on G-Unit affiliate albums than his own albums. He's the fucking idiot for branding the fuck out of any and everything he could get his name on. It's called oversaturation - but 50 thought he was sooo big that he was above that. What a fucking idiot - and people think he's a good business man.
I'm also laughin at the release date of his 4th album to be on the anniversary of GRODT. This homo is nothing but hype. Just put out a decent fucking album and let it speak for itself.
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^ Jrome is back at it. I love it. 8)
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I'm also laughin at the release date of his 4th album to be on the anniversary of GRODT. This homo is nothing but hype. Just put out a decent fucking album and let it speak for itself.
its like before a realease he has to explain him self...
any way the fat meat head was on that MTV show TLC or TFC or what ever, what rapper goes on there,
he was makin it sound he had to go tru hardship to help the rest sayin "i had to stop sellin the massicure, to help mobb deep" its not his jobb to sell his shit, and i dont know about the US but over here he had a rebok Ad on every 5 mins,its just his little excuse to cover the album not matching the sales of the first,
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lol 50 cent played them niggas
but dude when G-Unit was together i thought the sickest rap gang was created i mean The Game, best from the west and Lloyd best mc from the east and Buck one of the throwdest from the south and 50 as there boss...
now they all split apart and they coulda still been on the same label if 50cent did have his head up his ass
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i think CL smooths American Me is better than anything from g unit at the mo??
any one here herd it
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If Buck parts ways with 50, it could be a bad move for G-Unit, as Buck just put out the best album on that label since Beg 4 Mercy.
2 words
The Documentary
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If you were 50 Cents situation you'd be high on yourself too. Money does that to people, all "newer" artists who hit it big act like their the shit, they act like their the richest greatest rapper on the planet. 5 or 10 years from now 50 will modest up and stop his arrogance.
LOL, if 50's smart (which clearly, he ain't), he'll modest up NOW. Hip-hop sales overall are falling, and G-Unit is obviously not an exception to this, which is why 50 running his mouth like a dumbfuck is only gonna hurt himself and his label even more. 50 Cent's situation right now is that his street cred and his popularity are taking major blows...5 or 10 years from now, G-Unit is going to be done, for all intents and purposes.
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50 talks so much gibberish, it's not even funny. Dude says he's tired of carrying G-Unit on his back, but with all his burnt bridges, how the hell are they supposed to put together an album without him? He pretty much backed his entire squad into the corner and the only reason they still sell reasonably well is because of 50. Now he's getting pissed off at Buck for trying to improve his position in the rap game. Fuckin' ridiculous.
a) If you are refering to sales: Its a normal process, they had a great run for 3,4 years. The history repeats (Death Row, No Limit)
How are you gonna compare Death Row to G-Unit? 50 is the only reason G-Unit is successful AT ALL. The ONLY reason Death Row failed was because 2pac died and Suge was fuckin' up. Everyone on the DR roster was able to push a good amount of units on their own without one major star on half the tracks AND they were only gaining popularity as time progressed even without Dre. Plus, all 50 ever talks about on tracks are money and bitches like he's the Bill Gates of rap. He's a small time player in the whole scheme of things, where as DR was a dynasty that made some of the best music of the genre, and that will forever stand.
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Im laughing reading some people replays here. People fail to realise yet again, this is probably another promotional stunt from 50.
Hes the topic on every forum, hes got the I-couldnt-care-less-about-50-and-his-wack-music types (Jrome) checking for his every move, analyzing his every word. And thats exactly what he wants.
50 is even a homo now for setting a certain release date. Ahh, gotta love the internet.
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If buck gets kicked from G-Unit.. haha damn wouldn't that be a bitch! I could see alot of g-unit haters liking buck if that happened
A lot of people (includng people on this forum) like Young Buck, despite there negative feeling towards G-Unit. He is (or was) the most talented rapper on the label.
Exactly
I've always liked Buck and thought he was the most talented out of G-Unit artists.. I've never liked Yayo or Banks.. so yea I think it's great if Buck can leave G-Unit and make his own album.. if he teams up with dudes like Chamillionare, Lil Flip etc.. from the south he could sell even more than he would with 50.
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this is the best thing that could possible happen for Buck. if he keeps it up he´ll be able to jump off a fast sinking ship and he´s got potential to be just as successful on his own coz he keeps it real with most people. wonder what he´s gonna do about his "G-Unit South" tattoo on both of his hands though lol.
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And go where ? He wont do better numbers anywhere else. People seem to forget that the whole industry is flopping not just GUnit records.
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And go where ? He wont do better numbers anywhere else. People seem to forget that the whole industry is flopping not just GUnit records.
i´d head to Universal if i was Buck, or Geffen. Geffen´s atleast putting out a lot of succesful acts(compared to the numbers that most people put up). and dude´s got more charisma and is a more likeable person then anyone in G-Unit including 50. and Buck keeps it 100, if y´all seen the trailor of his upcoming reality show y´all know what i´m talking about.
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Oh yeah I forgot to say
BON VOYAGE OLIVER!!
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I hope Buck get dropped.
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Buck is smart. Not for some allegiance w/ Game, but because he can still have a career post G-Unit, where Banks & Yayo will have nothing. He still has potential to sell some records.
And 50 saying he's not helping out the clique anymore and Olivia getting dropped are MAJOR. I'd be willing to bet that Interscope is not willing to put money into these projects as G-Unit sales have continually declined.
And LOL @ 50 acting like he was helping everyone out w/ their albums out of the kindness of his heart. I GUARANTEE he was caking more % wise on G-Unit affiliate albums than his own albums. He's the fucking idiot for branding the fuck out of any and everything he could get his name on. It's called oversaturation - but 50 thought he was sooo big that he was above that. What a fucking idiot - and people think he's a good business man.
I'm also laughin at the release date of his 4th album to be on the anniversary of GRODT. This homo is nothing but hype. Just put out a decent fucking album and let it speak for itself.
best post i've read in like 2 years. other than the ones i post ofcourse.
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- 50's interview sounds like G-Unit had a intervention meeting with 50 Cent and it just went bad.. Sounds like they trying to tell him something that he doesn't want to hear.
-LOL @ 50 for saying that Cam'ron lost... Cam'ron's phone conversation and song stated the very obvious of G-Unit.
-What 50 doesn't realize is that he backed G-Unit into a corner. Hip Hop has ALWAYS been about networking and branching out to other artists.. One thing the media always portrays rappers as self destructive, violent, bad people.. but they never point out the fact that the genre of music has more collaborations than other genre of music.. Anyways, G-Unit doesn't have the network AND the internal talent to put out great albums. They sell b/c of 50's drama and his affilation. He never showcased their true talents. Young Buck is smart, he sees this and that is why he is trying to build his own network.
-50 Cent is a horrible record exec. As a musician/record exec, you'll have to do sacrafices to make your business strong. You don't see Dr Dre complaining that Detox was delayed b/c of his constant work on Game, 50, Jay-z, Etc etc's album.. You don't see Snoop saying that he's tired of working with Daz and Kurupt.. You don't see Eminem telling D12 to make theiir own careers.. It's just stupidity. He puts his own people in a bad situation and by airing out the dirty laundry of G-Unit, Young Buck, Sha Money is just stupid and disrespectful.
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I like curtis is so rattled by cam using his first name that he's actually changing his album name now to try and shake it. CUURRRRTTTIIISS!
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- 50's interview sounds like G-Unit had a intervention meeting with 50 Cent and it just went bad.. Sounds like they trying to tell him something that he doesn't want to hear.
-LOL @ 50 for saying that Cam'ron lost... Cam'ron's phone conversation and song stated the very obvious of G-Unit.
-What 50 doesn't realize is that he backed G-Unit into a corner. Hip Hop has ALWAYS been about networking and branching out to other artists.. One thing the media always portrays rappers as self destructive, violent, bad people.. but they never point out the fact that the genre of music has more collaborations than other genre of music.. Anyways, G-Unit doesn't have the network AND the internal talent to put out great albums. They sell b/c of 50's drama and his affilation. He never showcased their true talents. Young Buck is smart, he sees this and that is why he is trying to build his own network.
-50 Cent is a horrible record exec. As a musician/record exec, you'll have to do sacrafices to make your business strong. You don't see Dr Dre complaining that Detox was delayed b/c of his constant work on Game, 50, Jay-z, Etc etc's album.. You don't see Snoop saying that he's tired of working with Daz and Kurupt.. You don't see Eminem telling D12 to make theiir own careers.. It's just stupidity. He puts his own people in a bad situation and by airing out the dirty laundry of G-Unit, Young Buck, Sha Money is just stupid and disrespectful.
Hold on now. How is 50 a horrible record exec. ? He might not be the best but hes definetly one of the best. Look what he did in 3 years. He gave all his homeboys a chance to release an album on a major labels, expanded his brand to work with his rolemodels Mobb Deep and M.O.P., brought Games career to life, has his vater, condoms.. Sure he made some mistakes but let me ask you this : what did Luda do with DTP ? Busta with Flimpode ? Jadakiss with DBlock ? Game with Blackwallstreet ? Jayz with Bleek ? Fat Joe with Terror Squad ? Eminem only released the group album on major and let their solos be released on some crappy indy label. Dre aint complaining ? Have you forgoten how many artists he dropped over the years ? Even Snoop who has a major pull in the industry fucked Daz, Kurpt and Soopa several times.
To say 50 is bad bussinesman is plain silly. Maybe in the real world yes but around these dumb rappers he Bill Gates. Every rapper has a chance to bring up their group, only few of them succed.
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Im laughing reading some people replays here. People fail to realise yet again, this is probably another promotional stunt from 50.
Hes the topic on every forum, hes got the I-couldnt-care-less-about-50-and-his-wack-music types (Jrome) checking for his every move, analyzing his every word. And thats exactly what he wants.
50 is even a homo now for setting a certain release date. Ahh, gotta love the internet.
Listen kid, i'm really getting annoyed with having to point this out to you. It might be time for some ritalin. Seriously. I'm a MUSIC fan - you can check my collection: I have Hip Hop, R&B, Pop, Metal, Grunge, Folk, Easy Listening, Disco, Funk, New Wave, Jazz, Country, Techno, House, etc etc etc. (and yes J Bananas that sentence is worthy of some clowning but ain't no shame in my game 8)) Every genre has dope shit and thats why I really only categorize music into 2 sections: Dope & Wack. And because I'm passionate and conscious about MUSIC, I pay every bit as much attention to what is dope as to what is wack. I don't continually bump wack shit, but I discuss it ALL THE FUCKING TIME because I want people to understand what is real and what isn't, and why (in my opinion).
When did I say I don't care about 50? I've repeatedly said I can't wait to hear what he brings this time around. His album dropping this year will arguably be the most important one dropped this year. But PLEASE don't twist that into me saying it will be the biggest or the best. It will be an excellent barometer of where hip hop is and where it is heading. It can't drop soon enough in my mind.
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what the fuck does it mean that 50 gets credited for that shit? does that mean he gets paid? he can get all the youtube credits he want, does that shit mean he gets paid for every youtube thing or what? I want a rapper that finished college, fuck kanye for making dropping out of college seeming cool. we want defari.
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Hes the topic on every forum, hes got the I-couldnt-care-less-about-50-and-his-wack-music types (Jrome) checking for his every move, analyzing his every word. And thats exactly what he wants.
But you are the one posting every single move from him.
BTW +1 to Jrome, like Rik said "I love it"
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- 50's interview sounds like G-Unit had a intervention meeting with 50 Cent and it just went bad.. Sounds like they trying to tell him something that he doesn't want to hear.
-LOL @ 50 for saying that Cam'ron lost... Cam'ron's phone conversation and song stated the very obvious of G-Unit.
-What 50 doesn't realize is that he backed G-Unit into a corner. Hip Hop has ALWAYS been about networking and branching out to other artists.. One thing the media always portrays rappers as self destructive, violent, bad people.. but they never point out the fact that the genre of music has more collaborations than other genre of music.. Anyways, G-Unit doesn't have the network AND the internal talent to put out great albums. They sell b/c of 50's drama and his affilation. He never showcased their true talents. Young Buck is smart, he sees this and that is why he is trying to build his own network.
-50 Cent is a horrible record exec. As a musician/record exec, you'll have to do sacrafices to make your business strong. You don't see Dr Dre complaining that Detox was delayed b/c of his constant work on Game, 50, Jay-z, Etc etc's album.. You don't see Snoop saying that he's tired of working with Daz and Kurupt.. You don't see Eminem telling D12 to make theiir own careers.. It's just stupidity. He puts his own people in a bad situation and by airing out the dirty laundry of G-Unit, Young Buck, Sha Money is just stupid and disrespectful.
Hold on now. How is 50 a horrible record exec. ? He might not be the best but hes definetly one of the best. Look what he did in 3 years. He gave all his homeboys a chance to release an album on a major labels, expanded his brand to work with his rolemodels Mobb Deep and M.O.P., brought Games career to life, has his vater, condoms.. Sure he made some mistakes but let me ask you this : what did Luda do with DTP ? Busta with Flimpode ? Jadakiss with DBlock ? Game with Blackwallstreet ? Jayz with Bleek ? Fat Joe with Terror Squad ? Eminem only released the group album on major and let their solos be released on some crappy indy label. Dre aint complaining ? Have you forgoten how many artists he dropped over the years ? Even Snoop who has a major pull in the industry fucked Daz, Kurpt and Soopa several times.
To say 50 is bad bussinesman is plain silly. Maybe in the real world yes but around these dumb rappers he Bill Gates. Every rapper has a chance to bring up their group, only few of them succed.
Yes. He's a horrible record executive. And just to give you a little bit of education, you can be great at one point in time, and horrible in another part of time.. See Suge Knight.
His latest interview pretty much truimps everything that you just posted. I mean, if he was doing so much better than DTP, Flipmode, Blackwallstreet, then we wouldn't be having this conversation and he wouldn't be going on interviews talking about he was no longer going to 'hold his artists hands while sacraficing his music career'. I'm sure 50 Cent appreciates your optomistic view of the things he says, but from a business and career standpoint, this is not good news. You remind me of the people who actually believed Suge Knight filing bankruptcy was a good thing. G-Unit's success came from 50's popularity. People bought G-Unit related albums as an extention of 50 Cent's own work. It's obvious that 50's oversaturated the market and his affilation doesn't sell anymore.
I know you are a pro-50 fan. But please acknowledge the sillyness of 50's move. 50 isolates G-Unit to a very small network of artists and producers that they are allowed be cool/work with, now he tells them that he won't work with them and they have to go out and make their own music.. It's ridicolous man. I wouldn't be suprised if they had to carry a constantly updated list of artists that 50 is not cool with.
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They probably lost lets say 2 fans because Game left but Game lost 20 you get my point ?
My point is Game had litle to do with it, as will Cam, Fat Joe, Nas... point is beef doesnt end shit. All people that are saying 50 ended Ja Rules career are idiots. Ja ended his career. It was normal that GUnit as a group wouldnt have the sucess like they did the 1st time, they rode 50s name and 50s not untouchable anymore.
Plus nobody is selling shit these days anyways.
Damn man +1 for speaking truth.
Nobody can kill anyones carreers, lol @ the people wh oactually believe in that. Ja Rule put out wack stuff, then he got in the news on the negative side (in the 50 beef) and things just went downhill.
Game put out all these mixtapes, to kill G-Unit? lol, to get money, fools. Its just business man, you think 50 or Buck or Banks or Yayo or anyone on this world cares what Game's personal life is and who he beefs with, if you care about that, then you have lost reality for sure.
If you judge music, then dont drag beefs in it, but just listen to the music. Its just a lot of these cats on this forum are really upset with g-unit so before anything drops its fuck G-Unit, G-unoooooot, Gay-Unit, blablabla, they say the albums are wack before they even listened to it, and then try to spread that opinion (which is based on nothing but prejudices and are not objective at all) like theyre some preachers.
My personal opinion is that they relied on 50 Cent's name and fame too much, and now that they have to stand alone (like 50 said in the interview) and deliver, you can see who can deliver or not. Buck hold his own on Buck The World, and he got many Southern connects (Bun B, Eightball & MJG, Jazze Pha, T.I., Young Jeezy etc.) who back him up. Banks on the other hand dont got many others to rely on, so now that he has to do things alone he will fail. Rotten Apple was cool, but a few NY features on it wouldnt be bad, but G-Unit got way too many beefs to easily get some rappers to star on their records.
Lets see what happens when 50 and Yayo drop their next albums, that will determine their future.
Btw, i think Young Buck is gonna leave G-Unit soon.
On a side note, i think Spider Loc will get dropped soon, i dont see him putting out a album anytime soon anyways. Maybe he can join Buck's G-Unit south records when Buck get kicked from the Unit.
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they say the albums are wack before they even listened to it, and then try to spread that opinion (which is based on nothing but prejudices and are not objective at all) like theyre some preachers.
Hello! ...You're talking about OPINIONS. How is any opinion ever going to be OBJECTIVE?
Buck hold his own on Buck The World, and he got many Southern connects who back him up.
You're tapping from a fresh cask of contradictions, aren't you?
Nobody can kill anyones carreers, lol @ the people wh oactually believe in that.
I hope you don't mind ME laughing at YOU here. You don't have to be an experienced psychologist to be conscious of the fact influence is all around us, even when we don't actively realise it's there. Now you tell me, how is a rapper discrediting another rapper NOT going to hurt his sales in a musical genre that's all about credibility and coolness?
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proverbs you said rap has more collaboration than any genre....a rock band is automatically 3-6 cats...that's way more collaboration than a rapper and a producer(of course your whole point was all the collabs they do). My point is....rap and rock are equally collaborative music. Rock is not more collaborative than rap but rap is not more collaborative than rock.
furthermore, I have to admit....G Unit's 3-4 yearsof success is best compared to DR. But what do they have in common. Doc muthafuckin' Dre "How could I not go platinum rappin' on Dre hits?" G Unit's success is just an extension of Aftermath's post SSLP success. Are their ANY multiplatinum G unit albums that are not on aftermath/exec prod. by Dre? Didn't think so. It's all part of a bigger pattern: Dre makes millions since N.W.A case closed. when 50's gone, Dre will be blowing someone else the fuck up.I just hope they are dope and worth it unlike 50. People will probably call me a dick rider for this, but I fail to see the flaw in my logic here.
also, get off TTK's case about posting 50 news. someone's gonna post the news, would you guys rather we didn't know about shit like the cam beef and this? shit is entertaining.
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also, get off TTK's case about posting 50 news. someone's gonna post the news, would you guys rather we didn't know about shit like the cam beef and this? shit is entertaining.
Thing is, he says this
Im laughing reading some people replays here. People fail to realise yet again, this is probably another promotional stunt from 50.
Hes the topic on every forum, hes got the I-couldnt-care-less-about-50-and-his-wack-music types (Jrome) checking for his every move, analyzing his every word. And thats exactly what he wants.
He created the thread, and we're idiots for responding to it?
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also, get off TTK's case about posting 50 news. someone's gonna post the news, would you guys rather we didn't know about shit like the cam beef and this? shit is entertaining.
Thing is, he says this
Im laughing reading some people replays here. People fail to realise yet again, this is probably another promotional stunt from 50.
Hes the topic on every forum, hes got the I-couldnt-care-less-about-50-and-his-wack-music types (Jrome) checking for his every move, analyzing his every word. And thats exactly what he wants.
He created the thread, and we're idiots for "making" him create this thread?
he wouldn't have called anyone idiots if he wasn't dissed first. I'm the same way I have to admit, i avoid dissing but if you say some shit to me and I have something to say back then I may say it you know? i got love for both of you, I'm just saying I think he's legit in posting hip hop news in outbound.
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^^ Damn right he's legit for doing that, and in fact I'm thankful for it. It's just that I don't see why he should continue at all times posting complaints at our opinions and attitudes, as if it's our mission to bash his favorite rappers no matter what. At the end of the day there's no sense in it.
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^^ Damn right he's legit for doing that, and in fact I'm thankful for it. It's just that I don't see why he should continue at all times posting complaints at our opinions and attitudes, as if it's our mission to bash his favorite rappers no matter what. At the end of the day there's no sense in it.
well i'll defend dre when people bash him, just to state both sides of the issue, not to diss anyone so I can see that...it's kinda just how he perceives the attitudes that he's expressing and it's kinda cool that he allows you to see that and reply to it...but eh, this can go on forever, I see both sides, +1 to all. peace-T
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they say the albums are wack before they even listened to it, and then try to spread that opinion (which is based on nothing but prejudices and are not objective at all) like theyre some preachers.
Hello! ...You're talking about OPINIONS. How is any opinion ever going to be OBJECTIVE?
Buck hold his own on Buck The World, and he got many Southern connects who back him up.
You're tapping from a fresh cask of contradictions, aren't you?
Nobody can kill anyones carreers, lol @ the people wh oactually believe in that.
I hope you don't mind ME laughing at YOU here. You don't have to be an experienced psychologist to be conscious of the fact influence is all around us, even when we don't actively realise it's there. Now you tell me, how is a rapper discrediting another rapper NOT going to hurt his sales in a musical genre that's all about credibility and coolness?
I know opinions arent objective. Thats why i said it, people going around saying everything from G-Unit (or any group/rappers thats hated on) is wack while in truth they havent even listened to it at all, the nonsense thats coming out their mouths is NOT objective at all, and youre basically agreeing with me on that, so why post... :-\
Plus Buck hold his own on Buck The World, AND he has southern cats to back him up, meaning hes not a isolated rapper like for example Banks, who i doubt can get many features. He has backing of the south, and that is showcased on Buck The World, plus he hold his own on the album, dont read what you want to read, but instead read what i said. :-X
Last point. It is like i say youre a wack muthafucka, who isnt keeping it "real". YTou think everyone on this board will change their opinion? I dont think so, everyone is smart enough to think for themselves before they just say what someone else says, and if not ,theyre haters, simple. Same with rap, if game calls 50 a snitch there's bound to be a lot of Game dickriders who say 50 Snitch blablabla. But wait til you ask them why he is a snitch, thats when they dont know a answer.
That is what i mean, nobody can shut down anyone's career by dissing them, it is a persoanl fued, and if you want to pick a side in the beef, youre pathetic and dont care about the music. So you actually dont enjoy G-Unit music anymore ever since Game made disstracks against them?
You cant say "yes" to that since that makes you a hater, but a lot of cats on here would say yes if they were truly honest. G-Unit doing their thing, Game does his thing, why break your head over beefs, just enjoy the music. 8)
With that being said, CHUUUCH and +1 for replying.
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Im still drunk from yesterday, so Im gonna be short. Somebody said something in the words of "well why is he posting all his stuff then...". Well, thats because Im a fan. Its more normal for fans to post "his every move" than some haters.
And somebody said how 50 did good for GUnit but also bad now. Well Im saying at least he did something! 99% of groups dont even get the chance of releasing an actuall album. Take Game for example he was to obssesd withh dissing GUnit, instead of creating a label for BWS. You see my point ? 50s not a great bussinesman but compared to other rappers, he is.
Anyways, back to my beauty sleep :P
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props to elevz, timbo, and xander
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I know opinions arent objective. Thats why i said it, people going around saying everything from G-Unit (or any group/rappers thats hated on) is wack while in truth they havent even listened to it at all, the nonsense thats coming out their mouths is NOT objective at all, and youre basically agreeing with me on that, so why post... :-\
Nah, basically we didn't agree: I don't think there's a lot of people judging music before they've even heard it, and I don't think any opinion coming out of anyone's mouth could ever possibly be objective.
Let Wiktionary help us out here on the definitions of objective and subjective:
subjective: adjective (comparative more subjective, superlative most subjective)
Formed, as in opinions, based upon subjective feelings or intuition, not upon observation or reasoning, which can be influenced by preconception; coming more from within the observer rather than from observations of the external environment.
objective: adjective (comparative more objective, superlative most objective)
Not influenced by the emotions or prejudices, based on observed facts.
You see? Anyone ever judging anything will always be subjective. That's all I'm saying - you can't ask someone to judge objectively, because objective opinions are nonexistent.
Plus Buck hold his own on Buck The World, AND he has southern cats to back him up, meaning hes not a isolated rapper like for example Banks, who i doubt can get many features. He has backing of the south, and that is showcased on Buck The World, plus he hold his own on the album, dont read what you want to read, but instead read what i said. :-X
I read what you said, and I noticed a strong contradiction in the actual words you used :D
I know what you mean tho.. Buck doesn't necessarily need G-Unit. Whether that's true, I don't know (I've only heard bits of Buck The World so I'm not judging it), but I'll take your subjective analysis for it ;)
Last point. It is like i say youre a wack muthafucka, who isnt keeping it "real". YTou think everyone on this board will change their opinion? I dont think so, everyone is smart enough to think for themselves before they just say what someone else says, and if not ,theyre haters, simple. Same with rap, if game calls 50 a snitch there's bound to be a lot of Game dickriders who say 50 Snitch blablabla. But wait til you ask them why he is a snitch, thats when they dont know a answer.
That's the conscious mind you're referring to. I agree with that.
That is what i mean, nobody can shut down anyone's career by dissing them, it is a persoanl fued, and if you want to pick a side in the beef, youre pathetic and dont care about the music. So you actually dont enjoy G-Unit music anymore ever since Game made disstracks against them?
Do you want a humble answer? YES. Around that time was the last time I enjoyed a new G-Unit release.
It may or it may not have had something to do with Game's disses - to hell, I don't know. What I do know is that I haven't enjoyed N.W.A's music any more ever since either. To say people are pathetic for taking sides in beef - that's a bold statement. It may not seem 'right' to do so, but it's only natural. Don't you feel stronger affection to one football team compared to the other? Isn't that the exact same thing? If that's to be rejected, why bother dressing up in all orange by the time our national football team attends a big international tournament?
People have feelings about what they see and what surrounds them. Music, culture, life... Whether it be consciously or unconsciously, it's affecting us.
So you actually dont enjoy G-Unit music anymore ever since Game made disstracks against them? You cant say "yes" to that since that makes you a hater, but a lot of cats on here would say yes if they were truly honest. G-Unit doing their thing, Game does his thing, why break your head over beefs, just enjoy the music. 8)
Before those disses I was bigger on Game than afterwards, but I thought 300 Bars was solid. I'm not sure how much Game's diss tracks actually had to do with it, but it's a sure thing I haven't really enjoyed G-Unit's music ever since. It may have been just me turning my back on gangerrap as a whole, but consciously I don't know the true reasons for it. Perhaps Game did shoot a hole in their credibility and respect. Perhaps that does influence the way you honestly feel about the music after all. That's something that's going on behind those closed doors inside your mind, so you won't know what processes took place there.
That's all that I'm saying. Anyone with guts won't allow a rapper to blindly make them change their opinion. If Game calls 50 a snitch, you'd have to be damn near stupid to say "Okay, because Game says so, that means it's true." But what's the actual impact of a solid diss track?
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1. I didnt know you was from here too.
2. You abandoned gansgterrap yet you like game :-\
anyways, im a fan of vitesse 8) 8)
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1. I didnt know you was from here too.
2. You abandoned gansgterrap yet you like game :-\
anyways, im a fan of vitesse 8) 8)
Nope. I abandoned Game, just like the rest of them! I so happened to grow out of all that... I was just making hypothetical statements, looking in the mind of Game's fans.
But shit... You're a Vitesse fan? That means you're probably pretty close to where I am - Deventer. Next thing you know you'll find out we've been living next doors for years ;)
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i live near arnhem, si i doubt were neighbors, but stil cool you live in the same area 8)
+1
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Im still drunk from yesterday, so Im gonna be short. Somebody said something in the words of "well why is he posting all his stuff then...". Well, thats because Im a fan. Its more normal for fans to post "his every move" than some haters.
And somebody said how 50 did good for GUnit but also bad now. Well Im saying at least he did something! 99% of groups dont even get the chance of releasing an actuall album. Take Game for example he was to obssesd withh dissing GUnit, instead of creating a label for BWS. You see my point ? 50s not a great bussinesman but compared to other rappers, he is.
Anyways, back to my beauty sleep :P
I don't see why anyone should diss you for posting G-Unit/Interscope related news. They are still part of hip hop.
There is a difference between horrible and worst business men. I didn't say he was the worst, but i did say he is horrible. Game is a horrible business man too.
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proverbs you said rap has more collaboration than any genre....a rock band is automatically 3-6 cats...that's way more collaboration than a rapper and a producer(of course your whole point was all the collabs they do). My point is....rap and rock are equally collaborative music. Rock is not more collaborative than rap but rap is not more collaborative than rock.
furthermore, I have to admit....G Unit's 3-4 yearsof success is best compared to DR. But what do they have in common. Doc muthafuckin' Dre "How could I not go platinum rappin' on Dre hits?" G Unit's success is just an extension of Aftermath's post SSLP success. Are their ANY multiplatinum G unit albums that are not on aftermath/exec prod. by Dre? Didn't think so. It's all part of a bigger pattern: Dre makes millions since N.W.A case closed. when 50's gone, Dre will be blowing someone else the fuck up.I just hope they are dope and worth it unlike 50. People will probably call me a dick rider for this, but I fail to see the flaw in my logic here.
also, get off TTK's case about posting 50 news. someone's gonna post the news, would you guys rather we didn't know about shit like the cam beef and this? shit is entertaining.
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When i meant collaborations.. I meant outside of their own group. But even if you want to be technical, alot of producers use 2-3 people to help make their beats. Alot of 'original' beats come from multiple musicians.. And lets not get into sampling.. Shoot, we can start giving credits to 10-15 people for one song..
But my main point was talking about collaborations outside of their group and genre.
You asked "how many g-unit multiplatinum albums are on aftermath/g-unit that are executive produced by dre?", but my question is "how many g-unit albums are actually on aftermath" i believe only 50 cent and game's album are. Young Buck and LLoyd Banks were platinum and were on G-Unit/Interscope and were executive produced by 50.
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proverbs you said rap has more collaboration than any genre....a rock band is automatically 3-6 cats...that's way more collaboration than a rapper and a producer(of course your whole point was all the collabs they do). My point is....rap and rock are equally collaborative music. Rock is not more collaborative than rap but rap is not more collaborative than rock.
furthermore, I have to admit....G Unit's 3-4 yearsof success is best compared to DR. But what do they have in common. Doc muthafuckin' Dre "How could I not go platinum rappin' on Dre hits?" G Unit's success is just an extension of Aftermath's post SSLP success. Are their ANY multiplatinum G unit albums that are not on aftermath/exec prod. by Dre? Didn't think so. It's all part of a bigger pattern: Dre makes millions since N.W.A case closed. when 50's gone, Dre will be blowing someone else the fuck up.I just hope they are dope and worth it unlike 50. People will probably call me a dick rider for this, but I fail to see the flaw in my logic here.
also, get off TTK's case about posting 50 news. someone's gonna post the news, would you guys rather we didn't know about shit like the cam beef and this? shit is entertaining.
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When i meant collaborations.. I meant outside of their own group. But even if you want to be technical, alot of producers use 2-3 people to help make their beats. Alot of 'original' beats come from multiple musicians.. And lets not get into sampling.. Shoot, we can start giving credits to 10-15 people for one song..
But my main point was talking about collaborations outside of their group and genre.
You asked "how many g-unit multiplatinum albums are on aftermath/g-unit that are executive produced by dre?", but my question is "how many g-unit albums are actually on aftermath" i believe only 50 cent and game's album are. Young Buck and LLoyd Banks were platinum and were on G-Unit/Interscope and were executive produced by 50.
i still think both genres are equally collaborative. a sample's a sample, not a collab. MUSIC by nature is often collaborative.
anyway, I thought Banks bricked, or did he have a succesful album before this new one?
either way, they're not multi. but still that's impressive.
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anyway, I thought Banks bricked, or did he have a succesful album before this new one?
either way, they're not multi. but still that's impressive.
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Yeah, Banks and Buck both dropped albums in 2004 (respectively The Hunger For More and Straight Outta Cashville) and they both went platinum with that, Banks selling a bit more than Buck. But remember, back then G-Unit's commercial success was peaking, unlike what it is now. It's impossible to compare the sales of their old and new albums because so much has changed since then, but they did go platinum before indeed.
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anyway, I thought Banks bricked, or did he have a succesful album before this new one?
either way, they're not multi. but still that's impressive.
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Yeah, Banks and Buck both dropped albums in 2004 (respectively The Hunger For More and Straight Outta Cashville) and they both went platinum with that, Banks selling a bit more than Buck. But remember, back then G-Unit's commercial success was peaking, unlike what it is now. It's impossible to compare the sales of their old and new albums because so much has changed since then, but they did go platinum before indeed.
yeah I completely wasn't into rap at that time...I was disgusted by the idea of G unit based on the 50 singles I'd heard so i didn't give any of it a second glance.
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Wow I missed out on a lot.
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Wow I missed out on a lot.
Lol, i don't know if you mean it sarcastic, but if you read through the topic you'll notcie at least 75% is hate. So you didn't really miss out a lot, trust me. ;)
+1 though, i never noticed you was gone or something. :laugh: