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Title: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 09, 2007, 06:03:14 PM
Just to show you how the propaganda machine works.  I didn't save the article but it was up yesterday at msn.  Recently, the leader of the Mehdi army, Muqtada Al-Sadr has called on all Iraqi's to unite against U.S. forces and there were like 10 US soldier deaths yesterday. 

So the Jewish, Zionist agent/US Senator Joseph Liberman immediately goes into action spinning the US propaganda machine and declares this as evidence that the troop surge is working!  He tries to explain that the fact that Muqtada is uniting the Iraqi's indicates that the sectarian violence is down and that therefore the troop surge is working!

The truth is, Joseph Lieberman doesn't even believe this himself.  This is just part of a game they play to manipulate the US public and the Iraqi people. 

Muqtada Al-Sadr has been trying to unite the Iraqi people from the beggining.  The last thing the US wants is for the Iraqi people to unite against the US.  So therefore, whenever they show signs of uniting against the US, automatically, the propaganda machine goes into work and now Lieberman is declaring it as a victory for the U.S., which serves a double purpose.  It confuses the Iraqi resistance to the U.S. and seeks to influence them towards sectarian violence in order to frustrate any percieved success by the U.S., when in actuality, sectarian violence is what the CIA has been creating and seeking in Iraq for decades now.  His statements also may serve to pacify the American public by giving them some false comfort that things are getting better which serves U.S. purpose of creating a permanent foothold in Iraq.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on April 09, 2007, 06:08:20 PM
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Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 09, 2007, 06:25:03 PM
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To tell you the truth Tech, you were also fooled by Zionist propaganda.  You once called Muqtada Al-Sadr, "death sqaud Al-Sadr" which was a name given to him by these zionist agents to make him appear as a figure of sectarian voilence rather than a leader of a broad resistance towards U.S. occupation. 

So you played right into their hands.

So do Kassem and all them when they go on and on claiming that Iraqi's are killing Iraqi's and blah, blah, blah, Sunni and Shiite, blah blah blah... ya'll become tools in their game. 

In reality it's American and Isreali intelligence that have created the civil war (planting bombs, planting evidence, through the media they control) in the region and exzaggerated it, partly (it has many purposes I'm just listing one here) because it makes civil war the national debate rather than U.S. casualties and failures in the region. 
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: Smoke Break on April 09, 2007, 06:31:57 PM
so are there muslim agents or is this just a jewish tactic?
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: Shallow on April 09, 2007, 06:39:54 PM
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To tell you the truth Tech, you were also fooled by Zionist propaganda.  You once called Muqtada Al-Sadr, "death sqaud Al-Sadr" which was a name given to him by these zionist agents to make him appear as a figure of sectarian voilence rather than a leader of a broad resistance towards U.S. occupation. 

So you played right into their hands.

So do Kassem and all them when they go on and on claiming that Iraqi's are killing Iraqi's and blah, blah, blah, Sunni and Shiite, blah blah blah... ya'll become tools in their game. 

In reality it's American and Isreali intelligence that have created the civil war (planting bombs, planting evidence, through the media they control) in the region and exzaggerated it, partly (it has many purposes I'm just listing one here) because it makes civil war the national debate rather than U.S. casualties and failures in the region. 


Exactly, a muslim would never hurt another muslim ever.

How do you know that the Zionists aren't placing jews in arab oppposition groups and masking them as arab muslims? Maybe Muqtada Al-Sadr and his family are all secret jews put in place to help stir up trouble and create chaos. In Greece, according to various members of my family who live there, it is commonly accepted by the masses that people like Arafat were jewish. When Lebanon was being bombed people in Greece were certain that Hezbollah is jew run and purposely kidnappened the soldiers on purpose so that muslims could be bombed by Israel. You see my firend, the jews rely on blind faith, as possesed by you, to steer the general muslim to side with "muslims" because they are muslim, but the whole time they are jews in disguise, and you fall right into the trap. It's not Tech that's fooled by Zionist propaganda, it's you and all those that don't see what really goes on.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: virtuoso on April 09, 2007, 07:11:35 PM
The fact is guys that the israelis and the americans and the british intelligence services are working double time to stir up secterarian hatred in Iraq either through the planting of bombs or various massacres.....i.e. the british SAS dressed in arab clothing who started attacking the iraqi police it's not difficult to realise what their mission. Also there is historical context to this, when it was revealed that most of the main terrorists in northern ireland were being run by the intelligence services (the RFU and MI5 has intelligence assets). This has been documented by Kevin Fulton and Martin Ingram to name but 2 former british agents. However I am digressing a little I do take the point which is being made, of course muslims are killing muslims and it's stupid to dispute otherwise but the catalysts are the ones who then create the spun headlines and give people the false perception that these are just savage people wanting to kill one another.

By the way infinite is right is one sense, mossad do have people on the inside of arab so called terrorist groups and always have done, I don't know how prominent these people are but it would be safe to assume they were high enough, mossad are clever and ruthless and play for keeps so it's incredible naivety to think that some of these arabs are not being controlled. However yes by the same token when you stir up a hornets nest that hornets nest will attack and the consequences are bound to be bloody, in fact once you stir up a hornets nest, you can sit back and watch the endless reprisals. Once the conflict begins dying down is the exact moment the intelligence services up the ante again. Of course there is probably another element to this also and that is settling past scores but look at how once again this manufactured....the invaders dismantled all institutions and coupled with all the horrors that had just occured, yeah to a degree violence occured through anarchy also.

An important point to note. it's been mentioned on the BBC that there are over 100,000 private military contractors there now which translated into normal speak is mercenaries. I am sure there are many bomb experts and such like within that camp of people, this game is being played like chess only the west is always several moves ahead and waits for the pieces to fall. I don't even like to use the general term the west, this is part of a much bigger global game played by evil bastards who are intent on world domination and then global government.

P.S There is little to dispute that lieberman is a zionist agent but......i don't endorse infinites view of viewing jews with suspicion in general terms. Evil comes in all races and religions.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 10, 2007, 03:25:05 AM


P.S There is little to dispute that lieberman is a zionist agent but......i don't endorse infinites view of viewing jews with suspicion in general terms. Evil comes in all races and religions.


If what I said is true then what's the problem?  Why don't you go and quote me something I said about Jews that was unfair, instead of playing their stupid little game and assuming that whenever a Muslim talks about a Jew there is some kind of prejudice. 
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: Don Rizzle on April 10, 2007, 03:33:34 AM
what happenned to the mehdi army disbanding only a week ago then
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: 7even on April 10, 2007, 04:27:17 AM
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To tell you the truth Tech, you were also fooled by Zionist propaganda.  You once called Muqtada Al-Sadr, "death sqaud Al-Sadr" which was a name given to him by these zionist agents to make him appear as a figure of sectarian voilence rather than a leader of a broad resistance towards U.S. occupation. 

So you played right into their hands.

So do Kassem and all them when they go on and on claiming that Iraqi's are killing Iraqi's and blah, blah, blah, Sunni and Shiite, blah blah blah... ya'll become tools in their game. 

In reality it's American and Isreali intelligence that have created the civil war (planting bombs, planting evidence, through the media they control) in the region and exzaggerated it, partly (it has many purposes I'm just listing one here) because it makes civil war the national debate rather than U.S. casualties and failures in the region. 


Exactly, a muslim would never hurt another muslim ever.

How do you know that the Zionists aren't placing jews in arab oppposition groups and masking them as arab muslims? Maybe Muqtada Al-Sadr and his family are all secret jews put in place to help stir up trouble and create chaos. In Greece, according to various members of my family who live there, it is commonly accepted by the masses that people like Arafat were jewish. When Lebanon was being bombed people in Greece were certain that Hezbollah is jew run and purposely kidnappened the soldiers on purpose so that muslims could be bombed by Israel. You see my firend, the jews rely on blind faith, as possesed by you, to steer the general muslim to side with "muslims" because they are muslim, but the whole time they are jews in disguise, and you fall right into the trap. It's not Tech that's fooled by Zionist propaganda, it's you and all those that don't see what really goes on.

lmmfao
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 10, 2007, 10:56:30 AM


P.S There is little to dispute that lieberman is a zionist agent but......i don't endorse infinites view of viewing jews with suspicion in general terms. Evil comes in all races and religions.


If what I said is true then what's the problem?  Why don't you go and quote me something I said about Jews that was unfair, instead of playing their stupid little game and assuming that whenever a Muslim talks about a Jew there is some kind of prejudice. 

The reason is because even though American/Zionist agents play a role, they're not to be blamed entirely... they may be responsible for escalating this shit, or even providing the spark...  but it's not their fault that those Muslims are too dumb to realize they're fucking themselves. They're not forcing the Muslims into their actions... they're fucking with their heads and taking advantage of the fact that those Muslims will jump and retaliate (against the wrong group)
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: virtuoso on April 10, 2007, 10:57:41 AM
No infinite this is where we greatly disagree, you want to try and simplify things into jews jews jews, this is a sustained effort by many parties. Also you don't want to acknowedge there is evil within the muslim world also, this is a great naivety and blindness much akin to the zombie like world of these brain dead salivating neocons. Furthermore you are deeply reluctant to consider that some of these muslims are themselves possible tools. It's about time muslims started shutting their mouths also and think about the beartraps they are being led into.

Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 10, 2007, 11:11:46 AM
The so called "pro-Israeli" lobby in the U.S is undoubtedly powerful. However I do believe that some of its apparent influence can be explained in terms of u.s foreign policy. Namely, these sympathizers wouldn't seem as influential hadn't it been for the enormous support among privileged sectors in the U.S (and as a result official support) for Israeli expansionism.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: jeromechickenbone on April 10, 2007, 05:30:52 PM
bryan you fucking piece of shit, there's inherently evil retards in every race and religion.  Hell look at you - you might be the biggest idiot on this board and you're both white and muslim. 
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 10, 2007, 07:13:29 PM
No infinite this is where we greatly disagree, you want to try and simplify things into jews jews jews, this is a sustained effort by many parties. Also you don't want to acknowedge there is evil within the muslim world also, this is a great naivety and blindness much akin to the zombie like world of these brain dead salivating neocons. Furthermore you are deeply reluctant to consider that some of these muslims are themselves possible tools. It's about time muslims started shutting their mouths also and think about the beartraps they are being led into.



  The things I say at this forum are true, why don't you go try and quote something I said that is false, then we will talk, until then, don't waste my time if you can't think of anything better to say towards me than the Bush/Blair supporters at the forum.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 10, 2007, 07:22:55 PM

The reason is because even though American/Zionist agents play a role, they're not to be blamed entirely... they may be responsible for escalating this shit, or even providing the spark...  but it's not their fault that those Muslims are too dumb to realize they're fucking themselves. They're not forcing the Muslims into their actions... they're fucking with their heads and taking advantage of the fact that those Muslims will jump and retaliate (against the wrong group)


Your too dumb to realize that they are fucking with you, because your having the same problem that you are accusing them of having. 

Let me explain, America wants the world to believe that there is a big problem of sectarian violence in Iraq, and under this context they can make themselves look like the good guys trying to bring peace to the warring factions.  Since you, also believe that the Iraqi's have a problem of sectarian violence and you are promoting that by talking about it which makes you a tool in their propaganda.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 10, 2007, 07:42:51 PM

The reason is because even though American/Zionist agents play a role, they're not to be blamed entirely... they may be responsible for escalating this shit, or even providing the spark...  but it's not their fault that those Muslims are too dumb to realize they're fucking themselves. They're not forcing the Muslims into their actions... they're fucking with their heads and taking advantage of the fact that those Muslims will jump and retaliate (against the wrong group)


Your too dumb to realize that they are fucking with you, because your having the same problem that you are accusing them of having. 

Let me explain, America wants the world to believe that there is a big problem of sectarian violence in Iraq, and under this context they can make themselves look like the good guys trying to bring peace to the warring factions.  Since you, also believe that the Iraqi's have a problem of sectarian violence and you are promoting that by talking about it which makes you a tool in their propaganda.


You said in your post:
"In reality it's American and Isreali intelligence that have created the civil war (planting bombs, planting evidence, through the media they control) in the region and exzaggerated it, partly (it has many purposes I'm just listing one here) because it makes civil war the national debate rather than U.S. casualties and failures in the region."

Now aside from the fact that you can't spell, I pretty much said the same shit you did. You, however, in other parts of your post tried to shift the blame in its entirety while I still portrayed some common sense and agreed that yes these agents are playing the whole divide and conquer game, but that in order to play that game they have to be able to take advantage of the situation there... meaning that, the agents are setting up the traps and the Muslims are falling for them... if you're too fucking blind to see that, look back at the statements made by the various religious leaders who kept telling their people not to fall for the bullshit and stick together against the foreign occupation... I know this may come as a shock to you, but the reason they made such statements is because they were witnessing SECTARIAN VIOLENCE... yes, the violence has definitely been sparked or escalated by foreign agents, but that doesn't mean that there is no sectarian violence.

On a sidenote, just so you don't draw attention to your own stupidity and all the dumb remarks you make, you should really think twice about calling anyone dumb, especially me, you confused dipshit.



Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: virtuoso on April 10, 2007, 07:44:10 PM
On the contrary I am acknowledging that this is multi faceted of course there is zionist involvement there is also catholic and christian involvement if you really feel the need to boil this down to religion. If you look at what I just said, I said you want to paint this in black and white, that it's the jews doing everything, this simplistic view point is nonsense. Of course in terms of mossad. they are involved and I have already acknowledged the media spin put on this, but it's much deeper than just jews. You stead fastly refuse to see that some muslims can also sell themselves out also, you don't want to see that in part this is coming from genuine anger, don't go and paint Iraq as some kind of utopia. The fact is there were simmering tensions before what the intelligence terrorist attacks. What this has has done however is allow for those tensions to be brought to the boil the catalysing effect that blows the top off. I am simply pointing out to you that this involves many more groups than you seem to think and also that though yes some of the chaos has been created through false flag terrorism, some of it has also been caused by the destruction of the institutions which has then spilled over into violence. I remember not so long ago you were marveling at what a great president clinton was and yet look at the evils that the U.N imposed sanctions caused to the Iraqis. It seems like you only want to see what suits your view point and that to me is deeply frustrating.

The final point I made was to not be insulting, but it is true muslims are falling for the traps and they keep running their mouths which is in turn leading to the wrong impression ahd thus a hardening of feeling towards muslims. Which is why at least to a degree there is still a lot of apathy when they mention Iran as the next target. I am not denying or trying to play down the oppression that arab muslims have received, heck arabs in general not just muslims but it's all too easy to set the arabs off which unfortunately makes them a soft and easy target.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on April 11, 2007, 04:09:00 AM
No infinite this is where we greatly disagree, you want to try and simplify things into jews jews jews, this is a sustained effort by many parties. Also you don't want to acknowedge there is evil within the muslim world also, this is a great naivety and blindness much akin to the zombie like world of these brain dead salivating neocons. Furthermore you are deeply reluctant to consider that some of these muslims are themselves possible tools. It's about time muslims started shutting their mouths also and think about the beartraps they are being led into.



  The things I say at this forum are true, why don't you go try and quote something I said that is false, then we will talk, until then, don't waste my time if you can't think of anything better to say towards me than the Bush/Blair supporters at the forum.

you might have not mentioned it directly on this topic, but it is pretty much known that you have some twisted perceptions, when you claimed that muslims are the "best people" in the world

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=122010.0


Also, my message was to Muslims.  Because gaining a firm faith of the hereafter is not something that comes easy, or to a person outside of belief in Allah.  It is developed through intense and consistent worship, sacrifice, contemplation, fasting, prayer, reading of Qu'ran, etc. 

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=131599.25

thanks man........ it's cool out here, the people aren't suspicious of eachother in the way American's hold eachother in suspicion.  Islam unites the people, and people meet and become friends easily. 
cigarettes also unite people

or the topic: "Muslims: we shouldnt say anything bad about muslims" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=121011.0)

 or when you claimed that jews are rightfully the most hated people by posting some bullshit of quotes:

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=136470.0

you can read what seer said about it, i dont have anything to add...

if this post was about george washington.. then why are there all those other quotes too.. just to put the knife in? you never even added anything. you just copied and pasted a bunch of random anti jew shit.. and thats it.. not even any input from yourself

i guess it was "bash the jew day"  at the mosque that got you fired up? toy soldier?


keep up this bigotry infinite and you'll be banned. for good this time.

*LOCKED*

fuck it..

*UNLOCKED*

btw i felt sorry for you after your cd's got jacked.. and i thought you were calming down.. after this.. now i think its karma. i've never actually been more disgusted by a single person in my life ever.



enjoy
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 11, 2007, 08:13:41 AM

On a sidenote, just so you don't draw attention to your own stupidity and all the dumb remarks you make, you should really think twice about calling anyone dumb, especially me, you confused dipshit.


Jamal, everything you quoted me as saying, you agreed with.  Yet, somehow you managed to go on and call me a confused dipshit and so on.  If there is a statement I have said that is false, then why don't you quote that statement.  Otherwise, it's just a waste of time for me to continue with you.  I'm not here to talk shit and satisfy my ego.  Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit.  I know you don't see yourself as a Muslim (just nominally Muslim), but people like CWalker do and are aware of it. 
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on April 11, 2007, 09:10:39 AM
^^lol back to the topic: "Muslims: we shouldnt say anything bad about muslims" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=121011.0)

you retarded piece of shit, you should already have some balls and reply to what i said or at least to overseers post on your own topic. you are full of bullshit and when someone makes you face it, you disregard it, you fucking coward!
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 11, 2007, 09:51:48 AM
^^lol back to the topic: "Muslims: we shouldnt say anything bad about muslims" (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=121011.0)

you retarded piece of shit, you should already have some balls and reply to what i said or at least to overseers post on your own topic. you are full of bullshit and when someone makes you face it, you disregard it, you fucking coward!

What do you want me to reply and say?

I was asking Virtuoso to quote me as saying something severely prejudice against Jews since that's what he accused me of.  All you did was gave reference to a thread that I made that had quotes of other famous people talking about Jews, yet had none of my own quotes.

Also, I was asking Jamal to quote me where I have been false in my statements.  So where is your quote of my false statement and then we can talk.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on April 11, 2007, 10:21:04 AM

What do you want me to reply and say?

I was asking Virtuoso to quote me as saying something severely prejudice against Jews since that's what he accused me of.  All you did was gave reference to a thread that I made that had quotes of other famous people talking about Jews, yet had none of my own quotes.
first and formost i posted all these links myself, cuz jamal and virtuoso didnt do so, so here is what they may have meant!
and come on, dont act all innocent now...you made a topic full of quotes of famous people talkign all kinds of bullshit about jews...most of them were people some guys here didnt expect to say all these things. if you told me now that you wanted to show by this thread how many people in the history were racist or how bad you feel for the jews you would have either said that, or would have quoted some hitler statments which would be more demonstrative. but the truth is that you wanted to spread some racism in the topic you yourself believe in and thought nobody is gonna notice cuz you didnt add anything to it. how braindamaged are u?

if you want me to, im gonna come up with more quotes if this isnt enough for you!

Also, I was asking Jamal to quote me where I have been false in my statements.  So where is your quote of my false statement and then we can talk.

"but it's not their fault that those Muslims are too dumb to realize they're fucking themselves"

this statement, infinite, includes the truism that it is impossible to claim that all muslims are great and amazing.
you still cant face it, cuz youre so fucking blind!!!
everything you say about the muslims you put in such a light that it looks like all muslims are good, all "the others" are bad. this is why i posted lots of links prooving to you that you claim that all the fucking time.
check this statement in your "Muslims: you shouldnt say anything bad about muslims"-topic:

^^^Every Muslim should take this seriously, because your not doing yourself, or anybody else any favors to run around and speak with your enemy's toungue.




dont you see how racist you are?
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 11, 2007, 10:46:55 AM
The media is spreading hatred against Muslim and promoting the viewpoint of the Jews.  So I am serving as a counter balance by exposing Zionist propaganda and promoting the Islamic viewpoint at the forum.  The problem is that most people at this forum are only interested in self-promotion, so even some Muslims at this forum would rather promote themselves and impress some non-believer even if it is at the expense of their religion.

What you all want is for me to say something against Islam or against Muslims.  For example, Overseer says that he was starting to like me after I made a post against a Muslim kid who had stolen my cd's.  Likewise, Gorilla in The Mist also showed me genorosity when I was talking about the beef I had with the Muslim kid who stole my cd's.   I'm not willing to continue speaking against Islam or Muslims to satisfy you and gain your favour.

Allah has told us of this behaivor by non-believers in the Qu'ran.  Allah teaches us that the enemies of Islam "will never be pleased with you unless you leave your way of life".

Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on April 11, 2007, 11:17:09 AM
The media is spreading hatred against Muslim and promoting the viewpoint of the Jews. 

okay, again, dear brian:
it is not "the viewpoint of the jews". dont you fucking get it, you cant generalize!
if you say all the jews

do you mean these jews?

(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1949/img0334du4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

and what about I to da Geezy?

So I am serving as a counter balance by exposing Zionist propaganda and promoting the Islamic viewpoint at the forum.

zionists and jews is first of all not the same, if you didnt know. i dont think there is anything wrong in being critical towards the media and towards many of the false things it delivers, but do you really have to represent right away and to "promote" (why-ever?) the Islamic point of view!? what if the islamic point of view is wrong at some point?
if you didnt know there is also propaganda in muslim countries!

The problem is that most people at this forum are only interested in self-promotion, so even some Muslims at this forum would rather promote themselves and impress some non-believer even if it is at the expense of their religion.

so what youre saying is that you should represent your own religion when you post here!? what if you dont like your own religion? what if youre not okay with some religious beliefs of your own religion? this is possible, brian.
if you belong to a religion, or choose to belong to a religion, it doesnt mean that you should stop thinking and do everything "the religion" demands from you. try and use your own brain!

What you all want is for me to say something against Islam or against Muslims.  For example, Overseer says that he was starting to like me after I made a post against a Muslim kid who had stolen my cd's.  Likewise, Gorilla in The Mist also showed me genorosity when I was talking about the beef I had with the Muslim kid who stole my cd's.   I'm not willing to continue speaking against Islam or Muslims to satisfy you and gain your favour.
no you got me wrong and i think you got overseer wrong too. its just that you have to generalize always.
it doesnt mean i want you to "speak against ISLAM" (whatever that means) you should just know that there are also bad people in the muslim world and dotn idealize one people.

Allah has told us of this behaivor by non-believers in the Qu'ran.  Allah teaches us that the enemies of Islam "will never be pleased with you unless you leave your way of life".
okay, i dont tell you to leave anything you dumbass, you should finally realize that you gotta drop this enemy bullshit. this is what causes all the fucking racism...your "enemy" is the U.S. and Israel now, right? doesn mean that all americans an jews are bad, got it? you can talk about the gouvernment YES, the media- YES, but not about the people in general!
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 11, 2007, 11:28:10 AM
In response to your post above mine I will agree with you that not all Jews are Zionists.  As for the other stuff you said about you not being againgst Islam, I think your posts indicate otherwise, and whether or not you recognize yourself as being an enemy to Islam, I do recognize you as having an aversion towards Islam.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on April 11, 2007, 11:44:11 AM
^^ so only becuz im not muslim, im against islam? does that make any sense? you can be whatever the fuck you want,  as long as you dont claim that what you are is the best and what the others are is bullshit, im gonna be okay with you.

i dont have an aversion towards islam/judaism/christianity etc., i have an aversion towards ignorant people, nationalists and racists!
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 11, 2007, 12:02:50 PM
^^ so only becuz im not muslim, im against islam? does that make any sense? you can be whatever the fuck you want,  as long as you dont claim that what you are is the best and what the others are is bullshit, im gonna be okay with you.

i dont have an aversion towards islam/judaism/christianity etc., i have an aversion towards ignorant people, nationalists and racists!

If you had an aversion against nationalists, then your attention would be on Don Rizzle, CWalker, and Overseer, because they are the nationalists here at the forum.  Instead, your focus has always been on me.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on April 11, 2007, 12:27:04 PM
^^ so only becuz im not muslim, im against islam? does that make any sense? you can be whatever the fuck you want,  as long as you dont claim that what you are is the best and what the others are is bullshit, im gonna be okay with you.

i dont have an aversion towards islam/judaism/christianity etc., i have an aversion towards ignorant people, nationalists and racists!

If you had an aversion against nationalists, then your attention would be on Don Rizzle, CWalker, and Overseer, because they are the nationalists here at the forum.  Instead, your focus has always been on me.

first of all, this is not true that my focus has always been only on you. my greatest focus was on Cwalker, don rizzle, nik and this black nationalist (dont remember his name), but by talking all kinds of bullshit and generalizing youre no better than them. and this has nothing to do with you being a muslim, if you wanna believe it or not.
by expecting from all people (who somewhat criticise you) to be anti-islam you dont do youself a favour.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 11, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
Jamal, everything you quoted me as saying, you agreed with.  Yet, somehow you managed to go on and call me a confused dipshit and so on.  If there is a statement I have said that is false, then why don't you quote that statement.  Otherwise, it's just a waste of time for me to continue with you.  I'm not here to talk shit and satisfy my ego.  Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit.  I know you don't see yourself as a Muslim (just nominally Muslim), but people like CWalker do and are aware of it. 

Stop being such a stubborn retard and stop playing stupid.. if in fact you are just playing dumb, rather than being dumb.
Read my intial post:



P.S There is little to dispute that lieberman is a zionist agent but......i don't endorse infinites view of viewing jews with suspicion in general terms. Evil comes in all races and religions.


If what I said is true then what's the problem?  Why don't you go and quote me something I said about Jews that was unfair, instead of playing their stupid little game and assuming that whenever a Muslim talks about a Jew there is some kind of prejudice. 

The reason is because even though American/Zionist agents play a role, they're not to be blamed entirely... they may be responsible for escalating this shit, or even providing the spark...  but it's not their fault that those Muslims are too dumb to realize they're fucking themselves. They're not forcing the Muslims into their actions... they're fucking with their heads and taking advantage of the fact that those Muslims will jump and retaliate (against the wrong group)


Now you see, all I did is agree with what your statement, and simply elaborated on it, pointing out the fact that the Muslims are being used as tools in this scheme.... you want to deny that the Muslims are in fact carrying out some of the acts that they've been manipulated into, and further want to deny that there even is any sectarian violence.

By the way, in regards to your comment: "Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit."
Cut the fucking bullshit and stop being such a fucking hypocrite. If you take a look at the thread, you'll see that all I did is make the post I quoted above, and you came back calling me dumb... only then did I respond with the true statement of you being a confused dipshit... but until you fucked up, I hadn't said anything.

And what does the Qur'an say about judging others when you don't have a fucking clue? (claiming that I don't see myself as a Muslim)
Who the fuck are you?
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 12, 2007, 06:46:54 AM
^^^ I admit that some of the Iraqi's are being fooled and engaging in sectarian violence (although the lion share of the blame is on American and Isreali intelligence agency's who have sought to create and exploit it).  I never said that it wasn't happening.  Look, if Muslims like you, Tech, and Kassem are coming on here all day going on and on about Iraqi sectarian violence to impress the kuffar, then I'm sure there are Muslims in Iraq who are getting wrapped up in it to.  But it only serves the purpose of the occupation to talk like that.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 12, 2007, 09:51:38 AM
^^^ I admit that some of the Iraqi's are being fooled and engaging in sectarian violence (although the lion share of the blame is on American and Isreali intelligence agency's who have sought to create and exploit it).  I never said that it wasn't happening.  Look, if Muslims like you, Tech, and Kassem are coming on here all day going on and on about Iraqi sectarian violence to impress the kuffar, then I'm sure there are Muslims in Iraq who are getting wrapped up in it to.  But it only serves the purpose of the occupation to talk like that.

Shut the fuck up... stop talking out of your fucking ass. When did I "come on here all day going on and on about Iraqi sectarian violence"? Can you show me something to back up that dumbfounded claim of yours? I only came in this thread to elaborate on something said by virtuoso and your dumb ass.
I just said the same thing I did in my initial post, and you decided to make your dumb remarks.... and now when I repeat myself and call you out on your ignorance and hypocrisy, you say "I admit it.. I never said it wasn't happening".

By the way, the fact that you just admit it and then turn around and say that dumb shit only shows that you lie to yourself and want to lie to others. You're one confused fuck.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 12, 2007, 09:54:25 AM
And how come you didn't respond to this, you hypocritical dumbfuck?

By the way, in regards to your comment: "Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit."
Cut the fucking bullshit and stop being such a fucking hypocrite. If you take a look at the thread, you'll see that all I did is make the post I quoted above, and you came back calling me dumb... only then did I respond with the true statement of you being a confused dipshit... but until you fucked up, I hadn't said anything.

And what does the Qur'an say about judging others when you don't have a fucking clue? (claiming that I don't see myself as a Muslim)
Who the fuck are you?
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 12, 2007, 10:37:52 AM
And how come you didn't respond to this, you hypocritical dumbfuck?

By the way, in regards to your comment: "Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit."
Cut the fucking bullshit and stop being such a fucking hypocrite. If you take a look at the thread, you'll see that all I did is make the post I quoted above, and you came back calling me dumb... only then did I respond with the true statement of you being a confused dipshit... but until you fucked up, I hadn't said anything.

And what does the Qur'an say about judging others when you don't have a fucking clue? (claiming that I don't see myself as a Muslim)
Who the fuck are you?

Why don't you tell me what the Qu'ran says about "judging others when you don't have a fucking clue".  Because actually, I don't know of any verse that says that.

As for all your other theatrics, a Muslim should have limits, especially in regards to dealing with other Muslims.  We can't go on cussing at each other and calling each other names.  Atleast from my end, as long as it's not totally necassary I'm not going to continue engaging in that kind of speach.

I only wanted to show that Muslims are serving the purpose of the occupation when they continue to point out sectarian tensions and violence.  It follows a rule that if you want something to come into existence then talk about it, and if you want something to come to an end then stop talking about it.  So by talking about it, it breathes life into that thing.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 12, 2007, 10:55:10 AM
if you want something to come into existence then talk about it, and if you want something to come to an end then stop talking about it. 

By this logic, people who want to, let's say, stop atrocities, should refrain from exposing them, because when you "want something to come to an end" you should "stop talking about it".

 If you wanna impede the anti-Muslim propaganda you should "stop talking about it". If you want to drain the Zionist lobby from its power then "stop talking about it". Genius. ::)
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 12, 2007, 11:03:34 AM
if you want something to come into existence then talk about it, and if you want something to come to an end then stop talking about it. 

By this logic, people who want to, let's say, stop atrocities, should refrain from exposing them, because when you "want something to come to an end" you should "stop talking about it".

 If you wanna impede the anti-Muslim propaganda you should "stop talking about it". If you want to drain the Zionist lobby from its power then "stop talking about it". Genius. ::)

The Zionist lobby has their views in the media all day long, people hear it so much they've taken it as a reality in their lives.
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 12, 2007, 11:17:43 AM
Yeah... but you "shouldn't talk about it" if you want it to stop....LMAO ;D
Title: Re: Lieberman (the Zionist agent) claims that troop surge is working...
Post by: J @ M @ L on April 12, 2007, 11:30:32 AM
And how come you didn't respond to this, you hypocritical dumbfuck?

By the way, in regards to your comment: "Not to mention, we just make Muslims look stupid if we argue and you call me a confused dipshit."
Cut the fucking bullshit and stop being such a fucking hypocrite. If you take a look at the thread, you'll see that all I did is make the post I quoted above, and you came back calling me dumb... only then did I respond with the true statement of you being a confused dipshit... but until you fucked up, I hadn't said anything.

And what does the Qur'an say about judging others when you don't have a fucking clue? (claiming that I don't see myself as a Muslim)
Who the fuck are you?

Why don't you tell me what the Qu'ran says about "judging others when you don't have a fucking clue".  Because actually, I don't know of any verse that says that.

As for all your other theatrics, a Muslim should have limits, especially in regards to dealing with other Muslims.  We can't go on cussing at each other and calling each other names.  Atleast from my end, as long as it's not totally necassary I'm not going to continue engaging in that kind of speach.

You start with the name calling and when I respond you go "a Muslim shouldn't do this... we can't go on... etc"   LOL you're such a fucking hypocrite.
And what the fuck do you mean "especially in regards to dealing with other Muslims"... you should treat others just as well regardless of their faith, dipshit.

Seriously, you need to start taking a good look at yourself and your words. You're blinded, hypocritical, ignorant, and full of shit.

Now go read Surah 49, Verse 12... you hypocrite.