West Coast Connection Forum

Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Big BpG on June 04, 2002, 05:40:05 AM

Title: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Big BpG on June 04, 2002, 05:40:05 AM
Well in the video game world, game developers make their games to the best selling the video game console... because they'll have a better chance to sell more if they know more people will be able to play the game... Sony arrogantly stated that they've won the video game war between Microsoft and Nintendo... now even though the PS2 has been out for a year longer, these statistics are quite in favor for Sony

Sony: 30 Million consoles sold
Nintendo: 5 Million consoles sold
Microsoft: 2.3 Million consoles sold..


out of the top ten video games sold last year... Sony holds the top 5 spots with

1. GTA3
2. Metal Gear Solid
3. Final Fantasy X
4. NBA2k2
5. Max Payne
.
.
.
.
.
Sonic Adventure Battle 2
.
.
.
Halo
.
.
.

Video Game critics are saying they don't see how Microsoft can really compete with Sony and Nintendo... they also believe that their is only enough room for two major video game consoles... they also think it will all come down to the Online game play by these two consoles... all three plan on going online later this year, with nintendo making owners pay $50 to keep the service, Xbox and Sony will offer the service for free, you will just need a pre-exisiting internet connection...however with sony you will need to buy an extra unit for it...

we will see

i can't wait to play Madden 2003 online ...

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on June 04, 2002, 06:26:31 AM
cool
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 04, 2002, 06:27:38 AM
and the article didnt mention xbox got the better version of max payne and nba2k2? oh well,microsoft easily has the best online plan,and its easy for sony to say theyve won the "video game war" after having the ps2 out for 1 year longer......IMO the ps2 i sjust living off hype
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: EastsideLBC on June 04, 2002, 06:10:43 AM
Of course Sony is gonna sell more consoles cause they have been out a year longer like Sub-Z said, and they have alot more games out for their system right now!! I also believe that Sony is just living off thier hype!! Playstation 1 was a tight ass system and dont get me wrong Playstation 2 is tight too but when it all comes down to it X-Box will prevail as tha best system out!! imo no1 can top what X-Box has to offer with their online gaming!! Only time will tell!!!!
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Big BpG on June 04, 2002, 06:27:13 AM
Yea, but in November (a year after xbox released)... Microsoft wont even be at 10 million consoles sold... in sony's first year, they sold 30 Million... Xbox isn't even on course to sell 10 Million in its first... thats a lot... i was talking to an Xbox representative at work last week... he did say that they have 300 new games ready to release...

and how can you say the PS2 is living off of Hype???

Have you played the games they offer???

I think if anyone is living off Hype is Microsoft... I remember a year and a half ago when they talked about the Xbox... they made it seem like they were going to have a system to blow people away... they're not even close... their the worst selling system and most of their games aren't selling well... I believe "wreckless" and "halo" are the only steady sellers... these were the top ten video games to sell last month...

1 Grand Theft Auto III, PlayStation 2, Rockstar Games $50

2 Super Mario World, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo $30

3 Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, GameCube, Sega $50

4 Knockout Kings 2002, PlayStation 2, EA Sports $51

5 Sonic Advance, Game Boy Advance, THQ $39

6 Tiger Woods 2002, PlayStation 2, EA Sports $50

7 State of Emergency, PS2, VIS/Rockstar Games $50

8 Max Payne, PS2, Remedy/Rockstar Games $50

9 RalliSport Challenge, XBox, Microsoft $50

10 Final Fantasy X, PlayStation 2, SquareSoft $49

all the bold ones are for the ps2

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Cliche on June 04, 2002, 08:30:31 AM
ps2 WAS living off the hype... now they've actually got some quality games out... but really until GTA3 hit they didn't have a market killer... personally i think Halo is the best game around right now (and that's a nintendo fan speaking)... that said, X-Box doesn't have much else to offer me, yet. after seeing what everyones coming with at e3 though, i think all console owners are in for a great year.
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: DreSnoop00 on June 04, 2002, 09:22:39 AM
yeah we'll see with the online gaming tho, that'll be tight, i personally like xbox better, they are gonna have good games for online
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: elneckio on June 04, 2002, 09:28:09 AM
I think overall sales wise Nintendo might be the eventual winners judging by how well they do out of GB/GBA.  All those cutesy platform games (which I'm crap at) have a big fan base.

Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 04, 2002, 09:28:17 AM
ive said it once,and ill say it again,sales dont mean shit,especially when yur microsoft.......
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: EastsideLBC on June 04, 2002, 09:36:58 AM
Quote
ive said it once,and ill say it again,sales dont mean shit,especially when yur microsoft.......


Word!!

Nuff' said!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Black_Smoke on June 04, 2002, 04:50:27 PM
LOL at Ps2 peeps bein happy that its goin online!

yall are gonna have to buy all this shit for it while the X-Box already has it stored in the xbox
LOL

Damn it feels good to have an X-box
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Black_Smoke on June 04, 2002, 04:52:16 PM
o yeah
go to www.ign.com
and check out there E3 awards

PS2 didnt win 1 award!!
LOL
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 04, 2002, 05:18:03 PM
which means ps2 owners will eventually get bored because of the lack of great games and buy a xbox or GC
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Big BpG on June 04, 2002, 07:00:34 PM
Hahah... sony doesn't even have to worry... the unit costs $50 to go online... from their its easy.... nothing else needed... so the Xbox already has the online installed... but if it can't supply games (like it is now) then who's gonna want to go online anyway.

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Black_Smoke on June 04, 2002, 07:09:12 PM
it will supply games!!
wait till winter

plus xbox  has a hardrive, so u dont need a gay ass memory card. And also with Xbox u can play your favorite music with ur favorite games.

Theres nothing like listening to Fuck tha police while crusing down a street in project gotham
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 04, 2002, 08:16:54 PM
bpg,obviously you dont know anything (but since you work in the video game department of where you work i guess youre the expert here ) xbox has plenty of games to make anyone forget about the 3 good ps2 games,microsofts online plan is easily better than sony's,sony allowing 56k users to log on is going to slow everything down,where as microsoft is making it broadband only which mean virtually no lag (and dont even use the excuse that its leaving out the people with 56k)
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: DreSnoop00 on June 04, 2002, 11:49:46 PM
Quote
ive said it once,and ill say it again,sales dont mean shit,especially when yur microsoft.......

word...
an example IMO to this with rap:
nelly, i dont like him. he sux lol. (i'll give him props for his success and making the clubs go crazy and shit). but look how many albums he sold? is he the best? fuck no.. lol he's made catchy songs. a lotta money but not the best
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: DreSnoop00 on June 04, 2002, 11:51:06 PM
Quote
where as microsoft is making it broadband only which mean virtually no lag (and dont even use the excuse that its leaving out the people with 56k)

yeah thats tight. it'll be pretty fast then, damn but i got 56k... but i wanna get cable by end of the summer , and this also gives me another reason to get cable as well
i mean i'd like it to have 56 k as well but then.. what would be the point if u could barely move in the game?
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Don Mega on June 05, 2002, 08:32:34 AM
Quote

word...
an example IMO to this with rap:
nelly, i dont like him. he sux lol. (i'll give him props for his success and making the clubs go crazy and shit). but look how many albums he sold? is he the best? fuck no.. lol he's made catchy songs. a lotta money but not the best

theres a big difference in games pushing huge units than music pushing huge units. The music sells because its played on the radio every other minute, thats the same reason why eminem are selling to non hiphop fans! because everyone are forced to listen to the music! the games sell because they are dope as hell., i haven't experienced anyone forcing me to play a game every other minute like music does

As for the ps2 not having online (which is buyable) the xbox doesnt have dvd player (i think)

but in the gaming world theres not really a need to use the term bandwaggon as there is in the music world.

p.s. even though the ps2 was released a year before the xbox it still pushes hella more units.
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on June 05, 2002, 09:20:09 AM
^^ Xbox does have DVD. I think tha Xbox DVD works better than tha PS2 DVD.

But anywayz, Poeple are trippin over two different things. Sub Z is saying the Xbox is better than tha PS2 and has more quality games. It's tha superior Console. And BPG is saying that Xbox's businesss isn't going too good, and why bother getting the system when they might go down pretty soon.

I agree with both of you. I think Xbox truly is better than tha PS2, and I can say this cuz I have both systems. It feels like a better system, feels more powerful, It's just better overall, but still, It kinda sucks that we get games months after PS2 already has them. And I know Xbox didn't do to well in Europe and Japan but I heard they were doing pretty good out here in tha U.S.

You hear different shit from different people. Xbox representatives will tell you that it's doing good to keep your hope alive. PS2 representatives tell you tha Xbox is going down to scare their potential buyers. It's kinda hard, you don't know who to believe.

I just go by what I hear from people. Alot of people own PS2, of course more people own PS2 than Xbox. It was out a year before and is probably a little cheaper by now. So because more people own tha Console.. of course more games are gonna be sold for it. And there's still a big Buzz going around about tha Xbox. All tha people that know what's up, know it's tha superior system. But what's does that matter if they aint got nobody backing them up.


Now you can argue that MICROSOFT is so powerful, they got so much money and they wont let it die. Now, that can be true, they could put alot more money in it, but they aint gonna invest all that money if they dont think they're gonna get it back. If they are losing more than they are gaining.. it's pretty stupid to think they're gonna keep investing/losing money.


I'm gonna keep my Xbox. I see alot of good games comin' out for it... I hope it does good, Only time will tell though really.
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: elneckio on June 05, 2002, 09:45:36 AM
One thing that the PS/2 and XBox both have going for them that the Gamecube doesn't (as far as I have read).  Is the possibility to write your own code for them...

The PS/2 now has a Sony produced Linux for PS2 package which allows you to write code for the console..  and someones published how to work out the encryption system on the XBox which will probably eventually lead to modded consoles which allow third party code to be run i.e. home made games and demos.  Ok this won't ever be mainstream or big sales but it does effect the choice of some peeps e.g. me if I was buying one right now ;)
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 09:59:00 AM
actually the xbox is doing pretty good in europe,ever since the price dropped the sales picked up,and japan just hates american products (its true) so they dont buy the xbox but they buy ps2 because its made by a japanese company and has all of those lame japanese RPGs.....
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Cliche on June 05, 2002, 10:21:42 AM
i don't see the reason to get amped over a video game console, personally i prefer the games lineup from nintendo, but i'll be playing all three systems by fall anyways (gotta get an x-box for their updated/expanded Shenmue 2)... each system has its own advantages...
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Big BpG on June 05, 2002, 11:28:50 AM
The reason i would buy an Xbox is for "halo" and that is it, nothing else, nothing at all... i wouldn't get it for "blood wake" "jet set grind radio" "azurik" "wreckless" ... dead or alive 3 seems like a tight game, but ps2 has DOA2 and it gets repetitive... I played wreckless and hated the controls...  however it wasn't a bad game, but truthfully... i believe PS2 is a hella of a lot better... sure, Xbox might have the edge graphically, but not overwhelmingly.... you guys say that the PS2 is only three games... and i guess you think those games are "gta3" ..."MGS2" ... "FFX" .... but I think now we can say "Medal Of Honor: Frontline" deserves a spot there... along with the best racing game "GT3" ... and I believe "Jak and Daxter" is the best adventure game on any console right now... and PS2 really controls the whole video game industry right now... when sony dropped their price... xbox had to... sony was selling a lot better to mircrosofts xbox at $300 anyway... so when sony dropped off a $100 there was no way xbox could compete without dropping itself too... and gamecube had to drop because they dont have a DVD player in their system... and about the online gaming... yes, ps2 will have the ability to have 56k users play online ... which to me is good for their business... xbox is trying to get the best playablity out of online use, but not everyone who owns a xbox also has a broadband connection... but ive played online PC's games that allow 56k users to play in what they call "mixed rooms" where 56k and broadband can play and then their our broadband rooms where only broadband players can play... so if sony uses that strategy, then broadband users dont have to worry about a "lag" .... and what really excites me is that EA Sports said that Madden 2003 will play online play for the PS2 this year... and possibly wait for an Xbox online playable version in 2004... not official, but EA sports said

"we have thrown our support instantly to Sony right now, which means we will have our online games franchised for the PS2 this year"

and if you dont know, PS2 already has an online game in Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3... now that should be cool...

now im not bashing Xbox, but they are the worse selling console system... and i believe its for their game selections... if I buy another system it will be GC and I will only buy it if Zelda turns out to be a great game...

-Big BpG



Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Lil Suge Knight on June 05, 2002, 12:11:02 PM
You watch out for the X-Box it'll pick up, yeah there aint much choice of titles right now (UK), but wait till xmas goddamn online gaming and the selection of games will be xplosive, its Microsoft for fucc's sake they are the HUGEST company around
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 12:47:06 PM
another case of someone not knowing shit about the games for xbox and just assumes it doesnt have any good ones,and for yur info bpg,microsoft was gonna drop the price anyways,but sony dropped it a day b4 microsoft,and now everyone thinks microsoft did it cause sony did it,i could name tons of games comin out/alreayd came outfor xbox,and mgs2 wont be ps2 only for long mgs2:substance an dcomin to xbox,gta3 isnt really that great,project gotham is soo much ebtter than GT3,FFX is more cut scenes than gameplay
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Big BpG on June 05, 2002, 01:43:52 PM
Quote
another case of someone not knowing shit about the games for xbox and just assumes it doesnt have any good ones,and for yur info bpg,microsoft was gonna drop the price anyways,but sony dropped it a day b4 microsoft,and now everyone thinks microsoft did it cause sony did it,i could name tons of games comin out/alreayd came outfor xbox,and mgs2 wont be ps2 only for long mgs2:substance an dcomin to xbox,gta3 isnt really that great,project gotham is soo much ebtter than GT3,FFX is more cut scenes than gameplay


lmao @ Project Gotham is better than Gran Trusimo 3 .... your funny

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 02:36:36 PM
Quote


lmao @ Project Gotham is better than Gran Trusimo 3 .... your funny

-Big BpG


lmao@youve probably never played it for more than 10 minutes,if youve played it at all

but hey yur a snoop fan,i didnt expect any intelligent comments from you...
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on June 05, 2002, 03:01:18 PM
^^^ You're a hater... straight up LoL... You sound like a snobby Xbox owner.. I used to be that way about tha Dreamcast. Even though I agree with you that Xbox is better..

Project Gotham was pretty wack IMO. I'd say GT3 is better, mainly cuz you can hook your ride up.. that's what makes Project Gotham wack..

He's a Snoop fan, but I doubt you're even a Rap fan at all. I've never seen you post anything besides lil dumb comments.
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 03:21:44 PM
Quote
^^^ You're a hater... straight up LoL... You sound like a snobby Xbox owner.. I used to be that way about tha Dreamcast. Even though I agree with you that Xbox is better..

Project Gotham was pretty wack IMO. I'd say GT3 is better, mainly cuz you can hook your ride up.. that's what makes Project Gotham wack..

He's a Snoop fan, but I doubt you're even a Rap fan at all. I've never seen you post anything besides lil dumb comments.



lol im not into rap but thats all i listen to ,ok makes sense ::)

it was a joke,obviously you dont have a sense of humor,and this whole subject is a matter of opinion and im just stating mine,you got a problem with that?
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on June 05, 2002, 03:32:09 PM
Yeah, It was a joke, but It was a diss joke. You were dissing him. Still though, No biggie... just dont bite your tongue.. if you think he's stupid, let'em know.


You have your rights to your opinions. I was just callin you out on them.. making observations.. I can do that right?


Well yeah, Your main reason for why PS2 sucks seems to be becuase Xbox is better. You seem angry that so many people like PS2 more than Xbox... what do you care what they like more? Just like what you like... Xbox is dope.
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 03:59:44 PM
i mnot mad that they like ps2 more,im mad because theyre saying ps2 is better when they have obviously not played xbox muxh at all or read about the games,you know what i mean?And one more thing that pisse sme off is he wont shut up about sales,what do sales mean??nothing more than more people bought it,that doesnt make ps2 better,but thats his only argument so far,i like having discusions like this,but thats the only thing i ever get from them,i was opinions onthe games i could care less about sales
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Cliftone_Santiago_909 on June 05, 2002, 04:26:50 PM
Yeah... I see what you're saying.


I dont think he's sayin it's better becuase they're selling more though. I think he's just tryna say Sales are important, they affect tha future of tha system. If they dont sell good.. people aint gonna want to do business with them.


I had a Dreamcast.. that's tha main reason I let tha business side of tha arguement get to me. Cuz Dreamcast went down bad.. they were already Online and everything, I had a subscription to their magazine and they would alwayz try to make it look like everything was all good... next thing you know, they go out of business.


I feel tha Official Xbox magazine does tha same shit sometimes. But I also feel they're alot stronger than tha dreamcast. Plus alot of shit is comin' out for Xbox in tha next couple of months.. it is tha better system. I'm just gonna hang in there.. hope they make it. I dont see why it's not selling though..
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: The Big Bad Ass on June 05, 2002, 04:33:33 PM
I'm not gonna give sony another 200 dollars after the origional 300 I spent was wasted on a ps2 that lasted me 3 months, then died. Gonna cost 130 dollars to get it fixed. FUUUUUCK that. I'll stick with my Cube and Xbox.
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 05:13:49 PM
but theres one big difference between dreamcast and xbox

dreamcast=sega(almost bankrupt when the dreamcast was released)

microsoft=you know the story lol
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Big BpG on June 05, 2002, 06:11:37 PM
well its cool, i aint hating, never was, im just saying my views... but i wont buy an xbox... ps2 and xbox release games to closely related, i would get a cube, but only if zelda is good...

-Big BpG
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 06:24:32 PM
lmao,nintendo fucked zelda all up,have you seen the screenshots??? link sure as hell isnt a guy nemore lol
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: elneckio on June 05, 2002, 08:47:56 PM
Is it just me or didn't the Dreamcast have Gotham Racing over a year ago, o no my bad it was called MSR ;)

btw ^ is a joke I am not having a dis at any ones system, I like anything that can play games :)

Whats the story behind Gotham anyway is it by the same programmers or something.. because when I had a go on it, it looked so similar to MSR ?
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 05, 2002, 09:09:55 PM
not sure who developed it,all i know is microsoft published it,all i remember right now that is like MSR is the kudos points
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Don Mega on June 06, 2002, 03:33:36 AM
i don't really care who sells more or who going online first. All i know is i like the ps2 better, i aint saying the xbox is wack cus it isn't. Im just more of a ps2 player..... oh and i love gta3!

and seriously, do you really think that gotham is better than gt3? i couldn't think of a better racing game than gt3. I mean the cars are fully adjustable, only thing missing are some more cars
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: elneckio on June 06, 2002, 07:45:29 AM
My hunch was right, these guys : http://www.bizarrecreations.com/ wrote Gotham and MSR :)
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: min0rity on June 06, 2002, 09:33:38 AM
yo sub-z you must REALLY love your x-box lol...just cuz you have strong feelings about your x-box...doesn't mean ps2 suck dumbass...i own the ps2 and i think ps2 overall is better than x-box but i don't say x-box sucks or whatnot cuz it doesn't...its a great system if you can reach to its potential....peeps don't realize that x-box hasn't shown its full capabilities yet but then again ps2 hasn't either...well just see when the online shit comes along.....as for gamecube....its also dope since nintendo has a lot of first-party games that nor ps2 or x-box has...like metroid, super mario....etc... i might get it when it gets down to 99.99
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Trauma-san on June 06, 2002, 11:54:50 AM
I've been a big nintendo fan from way back.  I loved the playstation, but I haven't played any of the new consoles.  I just wish Nintendo wasn't going to charge to go online, 50 a month is very, very expensive, I think... unless I'm just understanding it wrong, maybe they'll provide full sized games for free if you have the online service? That wouldn't be that bad, because you could download all the new games that came out, and wouldn't have to buy anymore.  
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Trauma-san on June 06, 2002, 11:56:25 AM
^^ LOL Just to clarify, I know nintendo didn't make the playstation, lol.  I was just saying that I love nintendo, and I liked the playstation, too.  
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: Sub-Z on June 06, 2002, 12:16:47 PM
drunken master or whatever....i never said ps2 sucks dumbass
Title: Re: Sony Says They've Won Video Game War...
Post by: E. J. Rizo on June 06, 2002, 11:24:35 PM
all i got to say is Grand Theft Auto 3 and Grand Tourismo 3 the best games i have ever played for any of the new gaming systems and they are both for the playstation so therefore i like playstation 2 better than the rest. I fuckin love Grand Theft Auto 3 and the new one is coming out soon too so thats good anybody that has played GTA 3 knows whats up and also i have been playing the GTA games since part 1 and i thought that was the shit and then the 2nd one aswell now that they made part 3 man it blew me away i have had it forever and i still play that game the most.