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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: WS4L on April 25, 2007, 11:27:37 AM
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they found a new planete where people can live, its not more than 40° over there ! they just report this in tv....now they wanna find out if theres air on the planete. if this planete has air...people can live there
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LOL
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Maybe intelligent life is already there and they will kick our cocky asses, how bout not being too enthusiastic over some bogus crap?
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dont be a downer dan. they need to find a way to jet a bunch of humans out there to start a new civilization. hopefully no minorities, that way they can stop whining about whitey keeping them down.
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
actually, it's 130 million light years away. So if you want to get there, if you travel at the speed of light it will take 130 million years. Good luck getting there.
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^thats what im sayin! they need to develop the technology to transport thousands of people faster than the speed of light. imagine, a cool, relaxed society; in perpetual fall season, the sweaters, the fires, board games with the fam... watching the leaves fall or enjoying a walk in the park one crisp evening, listening to the sounds of frank sinatra and horse drawn carriages over cobblestone... never more the burden of making accommodation's for smelly illegal immigrants or touchy black people strung out on BET and D4L....it must happen
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
actually, it's 130 million light years away. So if you want to get there, if you travel at the speed of light it will take 130 million years. Good luck getting there.
Lol. So how they find this out?
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. imagine, a cool, relaxed society; in perpetual fall season, the sweaters, the fires, board games with the fam... watching the leaves fall or enjoying a walk in the park one crisp evening, listening to the sounds of frank sinatra and horse drawn carriages over cobblestone... never more the burden of making accommodation's for smelly illegal immigrants or touchy black people strung out on BET and D4L....it must happen
hate on dude if y'all want but homeboy is funny +1
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WASHINGTON - For the first time astronomers have discovered a planet outside our solar system that is potentially habitable, with Earth-like temperatures, a find researchers described Tuesday as a big step in the search for "life in the universe."
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The planet is just the right size, might have water in liquid form, and in galactic terms is relatively nearby at 120 trillion miles away. But the star it closely orbits, known as a "red dwarf," is much smaller, dimmer and cooler than our sun.
There's still a lot that is unknown about the new planet, which could be deemed inhospitable to life once more is known about it. And it's worth noting that scientists' requirements for habitability count Mars in that category: a size relatively similar to Earth's with temperatures that would permit liquid water. However, this is the first outside our solar system that meets those standards.
"It's a significant step on the way to finding possible life in the universe," said University of Geneva astronomer Michel Mayor, one of 11 European scientists on the team that found the planet. "It's a nice discovery. We still have a lot of questions."
The results of the discovery have not been published but have been submitted to the journal Astronomy and Astrophysics.
Alan Boss, who works at the Carnegie Institution of Washington where a U.S. team of astronomers competed in the hunt for an Earth-like planet, called it "a major milestone in this business."
The planet was discovered by the European Southern Observatory's telescope in La Silla, Chile, which has a special instrument that splits light to find wobbles in different wave lengths. Those wobbles can reveal the existence of other worlds.
What they revealed is a planet circling the red dwarf star, Gliese 581. Red dwarfs are low-energy, tiny stars that give off dim red light and last longer than stars like our sun. Until a few years ago, astronomers didn't consider these stars as possible hosts of planets that might sustain life.
The discovery of the new planet, named 581 c, is sure to fuel studies of planets circling similar dim stars. About 80 percent of the stars near Earth are red dwarfs.
The new planet is about five times heavier than Earth. Its discoverers aren't certain if it is rocky like Earth or if its a frozen ice ball with liquid water on the surface. If it is rocky like Earth, which is what the prevailing theory proposes, it has a diameter about 1 1/2 times bigger than our planet. If it is an iceball, as Mayor suggests, it would be even bigger.
Based on theory, 581 c should have an atmosphere, but what's in that atmosphere is still a mystery and if it's too thick that could make the planet's surface temperature too hot, Mayor said.
However, the research team believes the average temperature to be somewhere between 32 and 104 degrees and that set off celebrations among astronomers.
Until now, all 220 planets astronomers have found outside our solar system have had the "Goldilocks problem." They've been too hot, too cold or just plain too big and gaseous, like uninhabitable Jupiter.
The new planet seems just right — or at least that's what scientists think.
"This could be very important," said
NASA astrobiology expert Chris McKay, who was not part of the discovery team. "It doesn't mean there is life, but it means it's an Earth-like planet in terms of potential habitability."
Eventually astronomers will rack up discoveries of dozens, maybe even hundreds of planets considered habitable, the astronomers said. But this one — simply called "c" by its discoverers when they talk among themselves — will go down in cosmic history as No. 1.
Besides having the right temperature, the new planet is probably full of liquid water, hypothesizes Stephane Udry, the discovery team's lead author and another Geneva astronomer. But that is based on theory about how planets form, not on any evidence, he said.
"Liquid water is critical to life as we know it," co-author Xavier Delfosse of Grenoble University in France, said in a statement. "Because of its temperature and relative proximity, this planet will most probably be a very important target of the future space missions dedicated to the search for extraterrestrial life. On the treasure map of the Universe, one would be tempted to mark this planet with an X."
Other astronomers cautioned it's too early to tell whether there is water.
"You need more work to say it's got water or it doesn't have water," said retired NASA astronomer Steve Maran, press officer for the American Astronomical Society. "You wouldn't send a crew there assuming that when you get there, they'll have enough water to get back."
The new planet's star system is a mere 20.5 light years away, making Gliese 581 one of the 100 closest stars to Earth. It's so dim, you can't see it without a telescope, but it's somewhere in the constellation Libra, which is low in the southeastern sky during the midevening in the Northern Hemisphere.
"I expect there will be planets like Earth, but whether they have life is another question," said renowned astrophysicist Stephen Hawking in an interview with The Associated Press in Orlando. "We haven't been visited by little green men yet."
Before you book your extrastellar flight to 581 c, a few caveats about how alien that world probably is: Anyone sitting on the planet would get heavier quickly, and birthdays would add up fast since it orbits its star every 13 days.
Gravity is 1.6 times as strong as Earth's so a 150-pound person would feel like 240 pounds.
But oh, the view. The planet is 14 times closer to the star it orbits. Udry figures the red dwarf star would hang in the sky at a size 20 times larger than our moon. And it's likely, but still not known, that the planet doesn't rotate, so one side would always be sunlit and the other dark.
Distance is another problem. "We don't know how to get to those places in a human lifetime," Maran said.
Two teams of astronomers, one in Europe and one in the United States, have been racing to be the first to find a planet like 581 c outside the solar system.
The European team looked at 100 different stars using a tool called HARPS (High Accuracy Radial Velocity for Planetary Searcher) to find this one planet, said Xavier Bonfils of the Lisbon Observatory, one of the co-discoverers.
Much of the effort to find Earth-like planets has focused on stars like our sun with the challenge being to find a planet the right distance from the star it orbits. About 90 percent of the time, the European telescope focused its search more on sun-like stars, Udry said.
A few weeks before the European discovery earlier this month, a scientific paper in the journal Astrobiology theorized a few days that red dwarf stars were good candidates.
"Now we have the possibility to find many more," Bonfils said.
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The European Southern Observatory: http://www.eso.org
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ppl are gonna trash that planet like we trashed the earth lol
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its 20.5 light years away. Which is attainable with zero point propulsion.
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Gravity is 1.6 times as strong as Earth's so a 150-pound person would feel like 240 pounds.
That means I'd feel like 320lbs. I guess it would be a good workout.
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a very good workout. Eithiopians would weigh 200 lbs
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so if it's 130 million light years away, does that mean we are seeing what it looked like 130 million years ago?
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so if it's 130 million light years away, does that mean we are seeing what it looked like 130 million years ago?
LMFAO!!!!!
That is a good question!!
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Pay attention it is 20.5 light years away.
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so if it's 130 million light years away, does that mean we are seeing what it looked like 130 million years ago?
So if we see some primitive life there, or just the environment in which life could emerge, they gonna have some sick and slick shit over there by now... :-[ ;D
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basically most of the stars we see in the sky may not even exist anymore for all we know.... we're looking into the past when we look in the sky.
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yeah sorry i speak french at home thats why ;D
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I've heard it takes us 50 years to get there.
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so if it's 130 million light years away, does that mean we are seeing what it looked like 130 million years ago?
So if we see some primitive life there, or just the environment in which life could emerge, they gonna have some sick and slick shit over there by now... :-[ ;D
By now there could be living creatures on that planet, looking at the earth, thinking of how it's empty and how there could be life one day... ;D
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it would take 20.5 years to get there at the speed of light, wich is 300 000 kilometres per hour. Einstein said that the time was something you could deformate. If you go faster than light every thing will probably desintegrate. The only particle that can go that speed is photon. Atoms can't. The only way we would be able to get there is by teleportation. They can't see what's livin there. Only presume what are the compnants of its atmosphere with a spectrometer. You can't see a planet with a telescope, they found it by calculating the attraction those planets have on their stars,.
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
130 million light years away....yet somehow you Mexicans would still find a way to sneak into our planet.
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130 million light years away....yet somehow you Mexicans would still find a way to sneak into our planet.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d30/KrEaturEKor3/noose.jpg)
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it would take 20.5 years to get there at the speed of light, wich is 300 000 kilometres per hour. Einstein said that the time was something you could deformate. If you go faster than light every thing will probably desintegrate. The only particle that can go that speed is photon. Atoms can't. The only way we would be able to get there is by teleportation. They can't see what's livin there. Only presume what are the compnants of its atmosphere with a spectrometer. You can't see a planet with a telescope, they found it by calculating the attraction those planets have on their stars,.
You are wrong. Read up on very recent independant studies from reputable scientists on zero point energy. It is actually very exciting right now in the field of physics because they cant even write books on the subject because it is advancing ten-fold by the time the book is released. This is why they keep releasing studies and papers. It is possible to travel several times the speed of light without a vast amount of energy.
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
130 million light years away....yet somehow you Mexicans would still find a way to sneak into our planet.
lol
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
130 million light years away....yet somehow you Mexicans would still find a way to sneak into our planet.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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double LMFAO
+1 :laugh:
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goddamnit it was real american, i cancel my plus 1, but still: lmfao
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^^ LOL ;D
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it would take 20.5 years to get there at the speed of light, wich is 300 000 kilometres per hour. Einstein said that the time was something you could deformate. If you go faster than light every thing will probably desintegrate. The only particle that can go that speed is photon. Atoms can't. The only way we would be able to get there is by teleportation. They can't see what's livin there. Only presume what are the compnants of its atmosphere with a spectrometer. You can't see a planet with a telescope, they found it by calculating the attraction those planets have on their stars,.
You are wrong. Read up on very recent independant studies from reputable scientists on zero point energy. It is actually very exciting right now in the field of physics because they cant even write books on the subject because it is advancing ten-fold by the time the book is released. This is why they keep releasing studies and papers. It is possible to travel several times the speed of light without a vast amount of energy.
links
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it would take 20.5 years to get there at the speed of light, wich is 300 000 kilometres per hour. Einstein said that the time was something you could deformate. If you go faster than light every thing will probably desintegrate. The only particle that can go that speed is photon. Atoms can't. The only way we would be able to get there is by teleportation. They can't see what's livin there. Only presume what are the compnants of its atmosphere with a spectrometer. You can't see a planet with a telescope, they found it by calculating the attraction those planets have on their stars,.
You are wrong. Read up on very recent independant studies from reputable scientists on zero point energy. It is actually very exciting right now in the field of physics because they cant even write books on the subject because it is advancing ten-fold by the time the book is released. This is why they keep releasing studies and papers. It is possible to travel several times the speed of light without a vast amount of energy.
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his source is star treck
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There are thousands of studies online on the subject. Look for yourself.
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^i have a better idea... links.
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It's true. Over the next few centuries humans will be able to harness all kinds of energies and it will enable space exploration on a level never dreamed of. Nearly everything you've heard as fantasies can be realized, logically.... even things like invisibility, flight, teleportation, telekinesis, time travel etc. are all logically possible. The real world is largely hidden from us, we look at things and don't really see everything that is there, we don't see the energy that manipulates everything around us, or the atoms that constitute everything for instance. A good example is the computer, if you showed somebody a computer in the 20's they'd be blown the fuck away but yet we've got them everywhere. I call it my Taj Mahal example. I have a wireless laptop, and if I want, I can connect to the internet and pull up a high quality photo of the Taj Mahal or something on it, out of thin fucking air, even though I've never been to the Taj Mahal. On a small level, that's magical, somebody from a few decades ago would call that impossible and if a magician was able to do that in the 50's he'd be heralded as a genius. Even something as simple as a fax machine is quite an extraordinary invention that's only been around a few decades, imagine a machine where you can take a picture in America and send it over a telephone line only to have the picture come out of the machine 13,000 miles away, instantaneously. That's fucking impossible at first glance. The next 50 years will bring many, many more discoveries and inventions that we today think are impossible (I.E. time travel, teleportation, etc.) because when we think of these things, we don't see them as what they truly are, only as something magical and mysterious. When you start breaking down what exactly constitutes the passage of time, and how light plays into that, etc. you can eventually figure out how to travel through time. A photograph for instance is a physical representation of one moment of stopped time, yet it's apparent that time cannot be stopped and by it's very nature is constantly changing... Yet we have photographs of moments of stopped moments of time. I'm not saying I can travel through time of course, I'm just saying that scientists one day will be able to do all of that and more.
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^meh, whats interesting is the ideas they will have when they do all that shit... i mean whats next? will that be it?
first we discovered farming, then the industrial revolution/electricity, the next step up is another energy revolution personally i think it's cold fusion...
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
130 million light years away....yet somehow you Mexicans would still find a way to sneak into our planet.
Don't care who said it, that's funny as fuck
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i think the world should really stop fucking around... let america or someone take over the middle east and stop all pointless wars and weapons.... concentrate on science and making an advance in human history. i think if some nerds in a lab have enough funding... who knows what kinda shit they could come up with. I want to be alive when teleporting and she is around... i dont pay my fuckin taxes just for footpaths and roads... i wanna teleport damit. i want to leave my house 1 second before work. never be late. shit i want to be on the other side of the universe too. 8)
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
130 million light years away....yet somehow you Mexicans would still find a way to sneak into our planet.
wasn't half the U.S. Mexico anyways. We don't cross the ocean to get to Europe, what makes you think we'll cross the galaxy.
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Do a search on zero point energy.
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i think the world should really stop fucking around... let america or someone take over the middle east and stop all pointless wars and weapons.... concentrate on science and making an advance in human history. i think if some nerds in a lab have enough funding... who knows what kinda shit they could come up with.
Do you even realise what you just said? ???
I want to be alive when teleporting and she is around... i dont pay my fuckin taxes just for footpaths and roads... i wanna teleport damit. i want to leave my house 1 second before work. never be late. shit i want to be on the other side of the universe too. 8)
Excellent thinking - nothing else to be added here.
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^LMFAO
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
actually, it's 130 million light years away. So if you want to get there, if you travel at the speed of light it will take 130 million years. Good luck getting there.
LOL..
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a place to put white people... SWEET... LOL
actually, it's 130 million light years away. So if you want to get there, if you travel at the speed of light it will take 130 million years. Good luck getting there.
fuck that im too lazy
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I've heard it takes us 50 years to get there.
You heared wrong.
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For the third time it is 20 light years away and not 120
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For the third time it is 20 light years away and not 120
Indeed, it's 20.5 light years away, or 194 trillion kilometers/120 trillion miles. Well withing reach I'd say ;)
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I've heard it takes us 50 years to get there.
You heared wrong.
no, I didn't.
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I've heard it takes us 50 years to get there.
You heared wrong.
no, I didn't.
You did son. Light travels around 125,000 miles PER SECOND. To get there in 50 years you'll have to go around 50,000 miles per second. Can you tell me of anything man-made that travels that fast?
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I've heard it takes us 50 years to get there.
You heared wrong.
no, I didn't.
You did son. Light travels around 125,000 miles PER SECOND. To get there in 50 years you'll have to go around 50,000 miles per second. Can you tell me of anything man-made that travels that fast?
Yeah, maybe I heard about another planet they found. lol
Btw, what u calling me son for?
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I've heard it takes us 50 years to get there.
You heared wrong.
no, I didn't.
You did son. Light travels around 125,000 miles PER SECOND. To get there in 50 years you'll have to go around 50,000 miles per second. Can you tell me of anything man-made that travels that fast?
Btw, what u calling me son for?
Cuz I sonned you. You obviously don't know much about physics and astronomy to be talking in this thread. Your welcomed to view the replies though :)
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Just kidding K-dubby :D
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Just kidding K-dubby :D
Damn, why u keep frontin me?