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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Tha Crip on May 02, 2007, 05:02:31 AM
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Bein the big fan of dre that i am i couldnt put this book down since i bought it 2 days ago and noticed some stuff i didnt know about before...figured i'd sum them up for you guys...
1. Dre asked Method Man to appear on "Eastcoast/Westcoast Killaz" but couldnt make it for some reason.
2. Xzibit originally wanted to name his 3rd album "Man vs Machine" but dre having seen the word "Restless" tattoed on x's arm decided that would be a better name for it.
3. Eminems "Im Back" and "Who Knew" (both produced by Dre & Mel-Man) were both considered 1st single choices at one point.
4. "Blaaww" almost made "2001" but when dre was choosing which songs would make cut, decided to replace it with "Whats the Difference", Hittman not happy bout this choice decided to ask his verse be taken off of the final version, so dre gets X to appear on it instead.
5. Dre asked Hittman to do a song for "The Wash" soundtrack but hittman "declined".
6. Hittman considered "Hott Damn" to be a single for his aftermath debut (interscope didnt feel hitt had any songs that coulda been "huge" 1st singles).
7. Dre sent Xzibit a CD with 38 beats on it for X's "Man vs Machine" album.
8. Dre actually produced 12 songs for 50's debut (Get Rich or Die Tryin) but only 4 made the cut.
9. Brooklyns first single for her aftermath debut "Name & Address" was to be a cut called "I Still Stay" and was produced by DJ Scratch (that choice for 1st single was Dre's idea)
10. Shaunta had 30 songs recorded for her debut but Dre never got around to coming to finish it (so she left).
11. Rakim flew DJ Premier to LA to hand deliver beats for his "Oh My God" album [aftermath rejects all his beats with ever gettin a chance to hear vocals over em].
12. 16 tracks are said to have been completed for Rakims aftermath debut "Oh My God".
13. Artists on aftermath and connected to aftermath dish out 75 thousand bucks for a dre beat while outsiders have to pay 250 thousand for one.
14. When Dre asked Kanye to produced a cut for Games "Documentary", Kanye says he begged Dre to mix his 2nd album (Late Registration).
15. During a photo shoot (i think) dre invited Dogg Pound into a van to hear some of his latest beats, says Dre woulda gladly handed them over for Dogg Food but dogg pound didnt want em.
16. Joe Beast was the first to bring a now famous (and still unheard) J.R. Rotem instrumental to Dres attention (dre would later record vocals over it for Detox, then later let Game & Busta rap over it), weather or not the beat was originally for Joe Beasts aftermath debut is unknown.
17. CPO was gonna be one of the first acts signed to Aftermath, dre and cpo go way back it seems but once dre decided r n b was gonna be his main thing for his new label (97 im guessin is when this happened) CPO never gets a call back from Dre (since dre at this time was through with gangster rap)
18. "Got My Mind Made Up" was indeed meant to be on Dogg Food but when Daz sent it to Dres crib, dre never got around to "mixing" it, this is why the track never made its way onto Dogg Food (damn imagine how much better that track probally woulda sounded had dre mixed it instead of Quik, not to take anything away from quik tho...he did a good job).
19. Ice Cube originally wanted "Fuck The Police" to be a solo cut but the rest decided it shouldnt.
20. King Tee was given the choice to put his "Thy Kingdome Come" album aside and record new shit that could reach interscopes needs but decided to bounce and take "Thy Kingdome Come" with him, Dre helped him do this (im guessing if dre hadnt approved this, we wouldnt of heard "Thy Kingdome Come" at all, shyt probally woulda ended bein put in the vault).
21. Aside from "Straight Outta Compton", Express yourself", "Boyz in the Hood" & "Fuck The Police", MC Ren considered the rest of the album "filler" tracks.
22. Dre and Cube had lunch one time and talked about collaborating on some tracks for Cubes "Death Certificate" but once word got to dre that "No Vaseline" existed. he changed his mind.
23. MC Ren hasnt talked to Dre since 2000.
24. Litterly right after N.W.A. shot the album cover for "Straight Outta Compton" Arabian Prince left the group.
25. MC Ren & Snoop were for sure gonna be guests on "Helter Skelter" (had it been made).
26. Dre played a writer a track from Rakims "Oh My God" album called "Cruel World" and it featured Ras Kass & Xzibit, the track has a sped up voice sample and 3 layerers of filtered drums, Premier mentions that he loaned Dre an old live record for that track.
27. While listening to a Premo beat for Rakims album...premo asked Dre n Mel-man what they thought of one track in particular and mel-man tells him there (he and dre) feeling some parts..sayin there pretty funky but that they want Scott Storch to re-do the bassline and some keys i think, to which mel-man asks if thats ok and premo tells them that its cool.
28. Nobody could do anything on one particular Dre beat until 50 Cent came around and wrote something to it, that track ended up being "Heat" on Get Rich or Die Tryin.
29. DJ Pooh use to give Dre rides to studio sessions back in the day cuz dre didnt have his own car.
30. N.W.A. was almost bout to get back together for a reunion (Eazy included) till the Murder was the Case soundtrack came out, Eazy having heard the song "What Would U Do?" by dogg pound where there dissing eazy decided fuck it and restarted the beef...he would retaliate by recording his own song with the same name.
31. After awhile Dre didnt think "Chin Check" was that hot (althought MC Ren remembers the session for that song to be pretty fun and reminisant of the old NWA sessions) on the other hand MC Ren also says that the session for "Hello" wasnt as fun compared to the chin check one.
32. Sam Sneed invited everyone at deathrow to come to his video shoot but no one showed up, book also hints around that sneed didnt really feel like part of the family.
33. In the early deathrow days everyone would party at dres house where people use to move Dres furniture around to make a makeshift ring for when a fight was about to happen, one of these were made when Warren G was getting into it with one of Dres bodyguards lil brother, says Suge came and put a stop to this one particular scene.
34. Dre planned on having "Helter Skelter" in stores by the fall of 1994 but Suge decided they should put out albums by Nate Dogg and Jewell instead.
35. Dre wasnt sold on the Dogg Pound putting an album out just yet, feelin the songs were alil weak, but Suge said Dogg Pound was the main priority so thats how it went.
36. Sam Sneed didnt like the song "U Better Recognize" but dre assured him the song would probally do well.
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Thanx man, dope shit, I only knew about 4,11 and 15
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some interesting facts there
250k for just one beat is insane! woulda been nice to hear Method Man on the Killas song too
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Bein the big fan of dre that i am i couldnt put this book down since i bought it 2 days ago and noticed some stuff i didnt know about before...figured i'd sum them up for you guys...
13. Artists on aftermath and connected to aftermath dish out 75 thousand bucks for a dre beat while outsiders have to pay 250 thousand for one.
Dang!!!! I can see how these producers are living Phat!!
I heard from a friend, that it was so, but i didn't really believe it!!
So if Dre gives a rapper/arist four beats..then thats 250K x 4=>One Milz (i think My Math is correct) :o :o
Wonder how much other producers charge???
Thanks for the info Tha Crip!!
Blu!
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what book did you read??
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the Dr. Dre Biography by author Ronin Ro, came out in the end of march.
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thanks man that is some good shit
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:o at the other facts you put in... woulda been dope to have some Dre beats on Dogg Food
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thats some real interesting facts props!
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Damn. Props on the info tho homie.
PS. Can anybody upload that "Blaaw" track?
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here u go...track is cd quality too
http://www.zshare.net/audio/dr-dre-ft-hittman-knoc-turnal-bloww-prod-dr-dre-album-version-mp3.html (http://www.zshare.net/audio/dr-dre-ft-hittman-knoc-turnal-bloww-prod-dr-dre-album-version-mp3.html)
http://rapidshare.com/files/29078010/Dr._Dre_ft_Hittman___Knoc-Turn_al_-_Bloww__Prod._Dr._Dre___album_version_.mp3.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/29078010/Dr._Dre_ft_Hittman___Knoc-Turn_al_-_Bloww__Prod._Dr._Dre___album_version_.mp3.html)
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Props man.
After reading criticisms that this book was all previously known info and a rehash of existing articles, this has changed my mind - I knew little of this. Makes me want to read the book.
Oh, and -
Aside from "Straight Outta Compton", Express yourself", "Boyz in the Hood" & "Fuck The Police", MC Ren considered the rest of the album "filler" tracks.
- he ain't the only one ;)
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Bein the big fan of dre that i am i couldnt put this book down since i bought it 2 days ago and noticed some stuff i didnt know about before...figured i'd sum them up for you guys...
27. While listening to a Premo beat for Rakims album...premo asked Dre n Mel-man what they thought of one track in particular and mel-man tells him there (he and dre) feeling some parts..sayin there pretty funky but that they want Scott Storch to re-do the bassline and some keys i think, to which mel-man asks if thats ok and premo tells them that its cool.
28. Nobody could do anything on one particular Dre beat until 50 Cent came around and wrote something to it, that track ended up being "Heat" on Get Rich or Die Tryin.
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Slow Down with all the Info-This is Hot Stuff!! ;D ;D
As For that "heat"..well i can't see Snoop flowing on a beat like that..but Snoop has proven me wrong!
perhaps Eminem?
Blu!
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Props man, some interesting stuff.
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props
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props! Some dope facts there!
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you Know..What..am Gon stay Right Here..so i won't have to run bakc and forth to my PC, tryina to get this info
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29. DJ Pooh use to give Dre rides to studio sessions back in the day cuz dre didnt have his own car.
;D
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cheers for all the updates, very interesting stuff
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Based on all this, I'm going to check out book soon.
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Interscope wasn't feelin' "Hot Damn" by Hittman? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard... Man, every person I know that ever heard that song from back in the day consider it a classic. I know people who hate Hip Hop in general and love that track... they messed up big time there.
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fuck, i wanna hear the rakim cd.
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props man didn't know about all of this !!
Is that all or there's more things maybe with 2Pac or Nate Dogg....??
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props for all these, will sure check out the book when i get a chance...
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31. After awhile Dre didnt think "Chin Check" was that hot (althought MC Ren remembers the session for that song to be pretty fun and reminisant of the old NWA sessions) on the other hand MC Ren also says that the session for "Hello" wasnt as fun compared to the chin check one.
Chin Check was hot and if Dre didnt think so he should of remixed it instead like the old days.
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i never knew that CPO was gonna be on aftermath. too bad that never worked out. i wish i heard more from him back in the day. i like his songs on MWTC and ATR soundtracks.
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Bein the big fan of dre that i am i couldnt put this book down since i bought it 2 days ago and noticed some stuff i didnt know about before...figured i'd sum them up for you guys...
1. Dre asked Method Man to appear on "Eastcoast/Westcoast Killaz" but couldnt make it for some reason.
2. Xzibit originally wanted to name his 3rd album "Man vs Machine" but dre having seen the word "Restless" tattoed on x's arm decided that would be a better name for it.
3. Eminems "Im Back" and "Who Knew" (both produced by Dre & Mel-Man) were both considered 1st single choices at one point.
4. "Blaaww" almost made "2001" but when dre was choosing which songs would make cut, decided to replace it with "Whats the Difference", Hittman not happy bout this choice decided to ask his verse be taken off of the final version, so dre gets X to appear on it instead.
5. Dre asked Hittman to do a song for "The Wash" soundtrack but hittman "declined".
6. Hittman considered "Hott Damn" to be a single for his aftermath debut (interscope didnt feel hitt had any songs that coulda been "huge" 1st singles).
7. Dre sent Xzibit a CD with 38 beats on it for X's "Man vs Machine" album.
8. Dre actually produced 12 songs for 50's debut (Get Rich or Die Tryin) but only 4 made the cut.
9. Brooklyns first single for her aftermath debut "Name & Address" was to be a cut called "I Still Stay" and was produced by DJ Scratch (that choice for 1st single was Dre's idea)
10. Shaunta had 30 songs recorded for her debut but Dre never got around to coming to finish it (so she left).
11. Rakim flew DJ Premier to LA to hand deliver beats for his "Oh My God" album [aftermath rejects all his beats with ever gettin a chance to hear vocals over em].
12. 16 tracks are said to have been completed for Rakims aftermath debut "Oh My God".
13. Artists on aftermath and connected to aftermath dish out 75 thousand bucks for a dre beat while outsiders have to pay 250 thousand for one.
14. When Dre asked Kanye to produced a cut for Games "Documentary", Kanye says he begged Dre to mix his 2nd album (Late Registration).
15. During a photo shoot (i think) dre invited Dogg Pound into a van to hear some of his latest beats, says Dre woulda gladly handed them over for Dogg Food but dogg pound didnt want em.
16. Joe Beast was the first to bring a now famous (and still unheard) J.R. Rotem instrumental to Dres attention (dre would later record vocals over it for Detox, then later let Game & Busta rap over it), weather or not the beat was originally for Joe Beasts aftermath debut is unknown.
17. CPO was gonna be one of the first acts signed to Aftermath, dre and cpo go way back as it seems but once dre decided r n b was gonna be his main thing for his new label (97 im guessin is when this happened) CPO never gets a call back from Dre (since dre at this time was through with gangster rap)
18. "Got My Mind Made Up" was indeed meant to be on Dogg Food but when Daz sent it to Dres crib, dre never got around to "mixing" it, this is why the track never made its way onto Dogg Food (damn imagine how much better that track probally woulda sounded had dre mixed it instead of Quik, not to take anything away from quik tho...he did a good job).
19. Ice Cube originally wanted "Fuck The Police" to be a solo cut but the rest decided it shouldnt.
20. King Tee was given the choice to put his "Thy Kingdome Come" album aside and record new shit that could reach interscopes needs but decided to bounce and take "Thy Kingdome Come" with him, Dre helped him do this (im guessing if dre hadnt approved this, we wouldnt of heard "Thy Kingdome Come" at all, shyt probally woulda ended bein put in the vault).
21. Aside from "Straight Outta Compton", Express yourself", "Boyz in the Hood" & "Fuck The Police", MC Ren considered the rest of the album "filler" tracks.
22. Dre and Cube had lunch one time and talked about collaborating on some tracks for Cubes "Death Certificate" but once word got to dre that "No Vaseline" existed. he changed his mind.
23. MC Ren hasnt talked to Dre since 2000.
24. Litterly right after NWA shot the album cover for "Straight Outta Compton" Arabian Prince left the group.
25. MC Ren & Snoop were for sure gonna be guests on "Helter Skelter" (had it been made).
26. Dre played a writer a track from Rakims "Oh My God" album called "Cruel World" and it featured Ras Kass & Xzibit, the track has a sped up voice sample and 3 layerers of filtered drums, Premier mentions that he loaned Dre an old live record for that track.
27. While listening to a Premo beat for Rakims album...premo asked Dre n Mel-man what they thought of one track in particular and mel-man tells him there (he and dre) feeling some parts..sayin there pretty funky but that they want Scott Storch to re-do the bassline and some keys i think, to which mel-man asks if thats ok and premo tells them that its cool.
28. Nobody could do anything on one particular Dre beat until 50 Cent came around and wrote something to it, that track ended up being "Heat" on Get Rich or Die Tryin.
29. DJ Pooh use to give Dre rides to studio sessions back in the day cuz dre didnt have his own car.
30. NWA was almost bout to get back together for a reunion (Eazy included) till the Murder was the Case soundtrack came out, Eazy having heard the song "What Would U Do?" by dogg pound where there dissing eazy decided fuck it and restarted the beef...he would retaliate by recording his own song with the same name.
31. After awhile Dre didnt think "Chin Check" was that hot (althought MC Ren remembers the session for that song to be pretty fun and reminisant of the old NWA sessions) on the other hand MC Ren also says that the session for "Hello" wasnt as fun compared to the chin check one.
32. Sam Sneed invited everyone at deathrow to come to his video shoot but no one showed up, book also hints around that sneed didnt really feel like part of the family.
33. In the early deathrow days everyone would party at dres house where people use to move Dres furniture around to make a makeshift ring for when a fight was about to happen, one of these were made when Warren G was getting into it with one of Dres bodyguards lil brother, says Suge came and put a stop to this one particular scene.
Wow some very interesting info here. I think we all can see why things didn't work out so well for Hittman.
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Dope shit, i allready knew about some of them.
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Interscope wasn't feelin' "Hot Damn" by Hittman? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard... Man, every person I know that ever heard that song from back in the day consider it a classic. I know people who hate Hip Hop in general and love that track... they messed up big time there.
Co-sign on that one - Hott Damn was some dope shit. I just wish we had a version that was mixed better. Props for the info - I didn't know about most of them.
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21. Aside from "Straight Outta Compton", Express yourself", "Boyz in the Hood" & "Fuck The Police", MC Ren considered the rest of the album "filler" tracks.
i always thought that! efil4zaggin=straight fire though
22. Dre and Cube had lunch one time and talked about collaborating on some tracks for Cubes "Death Certificate" but once word got to dre that "No Vaseline" existed. he changed his mind.
why did he eat lunch with him then diss him? oh what could have been :'(
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^^^
i think the song mightve already been done.
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props for the info! Anybody got that hittman song? "hot damn"? i never heard it
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yea im gonnna have to pick this up, good lookn
oh yea, did this book mention anything about dre's "relationship" w 2pac??
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Bein the big fan of dre that i am i couldnt put this book down since i bought it 2 days ago and noticed some stuff i didnt know about before...figured i'd sum them up for you guys...
13. Artists on aftermath and connected to aftermath dish out 75 thousand bucks for a dre beat while outsiders have to pay 250 thousand for one.
Dang!!!! I can see how these producers are living Phat!!
I heard from a friend, that it was so, but i didn't really believe it!!
So if Dre gives a rapper/arist four beats..then thats 250K x 4=>One Milz (i think My Math is correct) :o :o
Wonder how much other producers charge???
Thanks for the info Tha Crip!!
Blu!
i heard its like 200k for a scott storch beat..
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Bein the big fan of dre that i am i couldnt put this book down since i bought it 2 days ago and noticed some stuff i didnt know about before...figured i'd sum them up for you guys...
13. Artists on aftermath and connected to aftermath dish out 75 thousand bucks for a dre beat while outsiders have to pay 250 thousand for one.
Dang!!!! I can see how these producers are living Phat!!
I heard from a friend, that it was so, but i didn't really believe it!!
So if Dre gives a rapper/arist four beats..then thats 250K x 4=>One Milz (i think My Math is correct) :o :o
Wonder how much other producers charge???
Thanks for the info Tha Crip!!
Blu!
i heard its like 200k for a scott storch beat..
I hear Niggarachi charges a brick of weed.
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propz man some dope facts. makes you mad thinking off all the shit you missed out on, Would have thought Dre beats would be free for aftermath artists and dre would just get a cut of the album profits. If there paying for them they should be able to take them when they leave aka Brooklyn and Rakim? I'm pretty sure i've read scott storch beats go for 100k. Can anyone hook me up with the 'Hot Dam' tracks? please
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Wow. Alot of dope facts, props 8)
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propz man some dope facts. makes you mad thinking off all the shit you missed out on, Would have thought Dre beats would be free for aftermath artists and dre would just get a cut of the album profits. If there paying for them they should be able to take them when they leave aka Brooklyn and Rakim? I'm pretty sure i've read scott storch beats go for 100k. Can anyone hook me up with the 'Hot Dam' tracks? please
same
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thanks man that is some good shit
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Props man, good read
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i think storch has a half price sale on at the mo and female artists get special reductions
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Crip is the m.v.p. of this site........Thanks for your effort....I look for your shit on Boxden, too.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned that Ronin Ro is not the most credible cat..................
Anyway some of this shit proly have some truth to it... i wish i could hear more sam sneed! Its a shame Dre is fuckin wack to me.... how did he waste all that talent he had on his roster at some point or the other... its fucked!!!!!!!
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I hear Niggarachi charges a brick of weed.
lmao
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props! good read 8)
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propz man some dope facts. makes you mad thinking off all the shit you missed out on, Would have thought Dre beats would be free for aftermath artists and dre would just get a cut of the album profits. If there paying for them they should be able to take them when they leave aka Brooklyn and Rakim? I'm pretty sure i've read scott storch beats go for 100k. Can anyone hook me up with the 'Hot Dam' tracks? please
same
^^ http://rapidshare.com/files/29289039/16_Hott_Damn.wma.html
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Wow. Alot of dope facts, props 8)