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50 Cent’s New Album, Curtis, Moves From June 26th To New Release Date September 4th
Santa Monica, CA – May 24, 2007 – 50 Cent’s new album Curtis, which was previously scheduled to be released on June 26th, will now be released on September 4, 2007. With the album near completion and unable to make the original June date, a simultaneous worldwide release necessitated a push until September.
“I’m an international artist. My fans worldwide deserve to receive my album at the same time as my fans here in the US. Taking that into consideration moving the album to September was a necessary course of action,” states 50 Cent.
50 Cent is by no means taking the summer off. His first major performance will be June 26th on the BET Awards. For the first time ever, BET will let the fans decide which song 50 Cent will perform on the show. Text BANK to 23898 to vote for "Straight to the Bank" or text PARK to 23898 to vote for "Amusement Park". Tune into the show to see the winning performance.
http://www.50cent.com/news/default.aspx?nid=7994
With both of his singles falling off the top 100 is this a smart thing to do? Anybody else think this could be a negotiating tactic by Iovine after that Warner Bros info came out?
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this is bullshit, i thought end of june was perfect for him to drop, and gives 5 months to drop another Aftermath album eg Statlanta.. but if he's pushed back to september now, then that most likely means Stat will come early 2008, and then Detox will be pushed even further back AGAIN, and what about Raekwons album?! ..Aftermath sucks
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What a surprise. ::)
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Lol at the reason.. you tell me the weren't able to anticipate the number of CDs they have to press for a worlwide release til NOW... I don't buy it, that's a BS reason.. anyways Interscope/Aftermath are a joke... Dre should bring his label onto another umbrella.. but after all he prefers to collect dollars and be Iovine bitch by not using his power :-X... Watch out for Bishop in 2009, :-X
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XXLMag.com has confirmed that the release date for 50 Cent’s new LP, Curtis, has been pushed back to September 4. The highly anticipated album, 50’s third, was previously set for a June 26 release.
“Yes it’s true my album has been pushed back because it wasn’t delivered to the plant in order to be distributed and delivered world wide so it has to be pushed back, 50 told XXLMag.com. “June 26th was the last date I could put it out internationally until September. I am disappointed in Interscope for being reactive instead of proactive.”
In related news Glaceau, the makers of Vitamin Water, has been purchased by the Coca-Cola Corporation for $4.1 billion. One of the more popular flavors of the drink is the 50 Cent branded grape flavored Formula 50. “Today is 5/25 and it’s a beautiful day and I’m displaying my beautiful smile in beautiful way, It’s beautiful to be alive on 5/25, 50 said of the sale. “We sold Vitamin Water for $4.1 billion dollars to Coco-Cola! Ha-ha-ha!”
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=10432
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Somebody tell 50 Cent that I can't bump a Vitamin Water buyout in my stereo...
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What is the Warner Bros info?
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http://www.allhiphop.com/rumors/?ID=1288
50 Cent IS Laughing Straight To The Bank!
Word is the Warner Bros./Asylum is really gunning for 50 now (no pun intended). 50's contract is almost up at Interscope and word is Kevin Liles has thrown a cool $95 mill/4 CD contract at him. There is no word on what 50 had to say about it but Fif only has 2 more cd's on his Interscope contract. With "Before I Self Destruct" already halfway done and his "Greatest Hits" album ready to drop in 08', things will get pretty interesting. 50 owns most of G-Unit Records,books, & clothing. Where ever this man goes, the execs will be screamin' "balllinnnn", especially at Warner since that's Jim Jones' label home.
Sure it's in the rumors section but it didn't get there by accident.
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Why are all you people blaming Aftermath? Interscope decides the release dates... not Aftermath.
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^^^^
1) Dre seems comfortable with the pushbacks.. never did anything to change this situation
2) Blame Dre to stay on Interscope... Dre, Em and 50 are so rich.. why don't they care about making the music they want and release the cds when they are finished, not years after.. actually at least 50 said a few times Interscope fucked it up
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WTF, now thats some bullshit. 50 had everything planned, the bet performance on the release date, the videos, the apperances. God damn, he must be pissed.
Im 100% he'll leave Interscope now. But being pushed back pretty much rules out the BISD album in Feb 04. Maybe hell make it a double album in September.
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1) Dre seems comfortable with the pushbacks.. never did anything to change this situation
2) Blame Dre to stay on Interscope... Dre, Em and 50 are so rich.. why don't they care about making the music they want and release the cds when they are finished, not years after.. actually at least 50 said a few times Interscope fucked it up
Yeah I agree with you there... it just seemed Aftermath was being blamed for release dates, but yeah I wish they'd fuckin' leave Interscope already (unless there's some contract obligations we don't know about).
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WTF, now thats some bullshit. 50 had everything planned, the bet performance on the release date, the videos, the apperances. God damn, he must be pissed.
Im 100% he'll leave Interscope now. But being pushed back pretty much rules out the BISD album in Feb 04. Maybe hell make it a double album in September.
Exactly, he just put out 2 new videos. And thats not just a push back, its like 4 months. I wouldn't be surprised if 50 flops.
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^^^^^yeah, without mentionning the release of 2 videos which are now useless :-X.. people working at Interscope look so amateurish , they keep gettin worst and worst ... yeah he should release a double in September then release a greatest hits beginning of 08 and left... let Dre working on Detox(scheduled for after Global Warnin destroyed the earth) and schedule Bishop in 2011, Raekwon (hmm never) , Stat Quo ( who gives a fuck)
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And thats such a bs exuse about that international release date. WTF is that. I highly doubt they did it (becuase what someone said before of the singles) because Straight To The Bank had 50s highest debut on the Billboard top 100 (nb. 32) and it was the most d/l song from 50 Cent on Itunes. So, it must be something with Interscope.
He is gonna flop big time now (by his standards). Like I said he had everything planned, just read about that Vitamin water deal and commercia, new Vibe coverl.... Unless he reinvents himself completley and starts griding from scratch yet again. Lets not forget Kanye is also set to drop in September. Plus Dre, Bishop, everybody get pushed back now.
The only posistive thing about this is Amusement Park not making the cut (most likely).
Fuck Interscope. Fuck 50.
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50 Cent's Curtis Release Pushed To September
Last-minute additions, international release cause delay.
By Shaheem Reid and Jayson Rodriguez, with additional reporting by Tim Kash
It looks like the unstoppable force that is 50 Cent has to slow down just a little: The release of his highly anticipated third album, Curtis, is being pushed back.
Unable to make its original June 26 date (see "50 Cent Talks Timberlake Collabo, Star-Studded New LP Curtis"), last-minute additions and the album's simultaneous worldwide release required a delay until September 4, Interscope Records announced Friday (May 25).
"I'm an international artist," Fif said in a brief statement. "My fans worldwide deserve to receive my album at the same time as my fans here in the U.S. Taking that into consideration, moving the album to September was a necessary course of action."
According to information in the release, the G-Unit leader has additions to the project that came into consideration when making the decision to push the album back. Because of those potential tracks, 50 and company came to the conclusion that they wouldn't be able to make the original release date.
Just this past Monday, 50 Cent did a full blitz of the MTV offices in New York's Times Square, visiting several departments and even playing his album — which was just mixed and mastered the night before, his management said — for some of the staff (see "50 Cent Says 'Delusional' Cam'ron Is Hurting Diplomats Camp"). He was counting down the days until June 26, very eager for the world to hear the follow up to his last album, The Massacre.
"I'm excited," he told MTV News later that day at the Night Hotel in Times Square. He was sitting on the penthouse rooftop overlooking the city. "I feel like I'll impact on them heavy on this album. The Massacre kinda gave me my spot. This project right here, again I find myself trying to maintain a position that I have in entertainment. I'm in a more creative space and I'm able to give up more content, more lyrics that would make me vulnerable on some level. But I feel this project is going to impact the most because of that."
Two Curtis videos — "Amusement Park" and "Straight to the Bank" — are in rotation on traditional outlets and another straight-to-YouTube clip, "Fully Loaded Clip," has been making the rounds too. Yet another video, for a track called "Follow My Lead" with Robin Thicke, was shot recently in L.A. But there is no definitive word from Interscope if that will be the next look from the album or if he would go with another single. Curtis also features contributions from Dr. Dre, Justin Timberlake, Timbaland, Akon and Mary J. Blige
Fuck that shit too, you dont push an album for that for 2 months, you push it back for 2 weeks.
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?
i dunno, lol just messing around.
To easily say 50 would kill T.I. in sales isn't exactly fair. I'm just saying, before last year, i bet pretty much everyone would say that Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Game, Nas, Ludacris would also *kill* T.I. in sales, and T.I. beat ALL of them out
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I just got word from Interscope that "Statlanta" is still set for Aug.
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?
i dunno, lol just messing around.
To easily say 50 would kill T.I. in sales isn't exactly fair. I'm just saying, before last year, i bet pretty much everyone would say that Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Game, Nas, Ludacris would also *kill* T.I. in sales, and T.I. beat ALL of them out
But this is 50 Cent we are talking about. He can make a record composed soley of insturmentals, and he'd probably still go platinum.
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?
i dunno, lol just messing around.
To easily say 50 would kill T.I. in sales isn't exactly fair. I'm just saying, before last year, i bet pretty much everyone would say that Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Game, Nas, Ludacris would also *kill* T.I. in sales, and T.I. beat ALL of them out
But this is 50 Cent we are talking about. He can make a record composed soley of insturmentals, and he'd probably still go platinum.
and this was luda, game, snoop etc. we where talkin about
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Unlucky, they knew it was going to flop.
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I just got word from Interscope that "Statlanta" is still set for Aug.
2007?
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?
i dunno, lol just messing around.
To easily say 50 would kill T.I. in sales isn't exactly fair. I'm just saying, before last year, i bet pretty much everyone would say that Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Game, Nas, Ludacris would also *kill* T.I. in sales, and T.I. beat ALL of them out
But this is 50 Cent we are talking about. He can make a record composed soley of insturmentals, and he'd probably still go platinum.
and this was luda, game, snoop etc. we where talkin about
Neither Ludacris, Game, Nas, Jay-Z, or Snoop have ever sold over 5 million records in the US (further more doing it twice).
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reason sounds bullshit. I think real reason is he don't wanna compete with T.I. in the sales department ;)
now T.I. will 100% dominate the summer ;D
50 would kill T.I. in sales. Even if this was so, why would he push his date back so far?
i dunno, lol just messing around.
To easily say 50 would kill T.I. in sales isn't exactly fair. I'm just saying, before last year, i bet pretty much everyone would say that Jay-Z, Snoop Dogg, Game, Nas, Ludacris would also *kill* T.I. in sales, and T.I. beat ALL of them out
But this is 50 Cent we are talking about. He can make a record composed soley of insturmentals, and he'd probably still go platinum.
and this was luda, game, snoop etc. we where talkin about
Neither Ludacris, Game, Nas, Jay-Z, or Snoop have ever sold over 5 million records in the US (further more doing it twice).
regardless luda is 1 of the most popular artists of all time, going multi-plat many, many times, and until 50 proves he can have success for as long as luda has, he ain't no luda (YET)
Game had 1 of the biggest debuts in a long ass time
Nas had MAD controversy off of the whole hip-hop is dead, signing to jay-z, etc.
Snoop is Snoop ;)
you sure luda never went 5x plat? ???
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Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.
Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped + the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.
Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal. He started running his mouth too soon.
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Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.
Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped + the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.
Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal.
luda has never gone 3x plat ???
i find that hard 2 believe
snoop has also never gone 3x plat?
same as luda statement
game i know for a fact went like 3-4xplat
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We arent talking about worldwide numbers here, because if you wanna do that the bar is raised to 12x plat and 9.8x plat.
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There's a alot of shit that factors in. Holding it back for the international release is one thing, but there's also sample clearance issues that can come up or perhaps even new material that needs to be recorded because 50 may have cut joints at the last minute. But damn that's a really long time to wait, 2.5 months is crazy. The singles he's hitting us with now aren't getting THAT much of a buzz, so that might be part of the reason as well. He doesn't have an "In Da Club" or a "Candy Shop" out holding the #1 Billboard spot like he did for his last two albums.
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Thats true but considering his strategy with 4 singles out before release date (Robin Thicke joint was planned to premier May 28th), he probably aimed that all those 4 are bubbleing under top 20 and not even having that only 1 number 1 single. With 4 singles out in that short period of time, its pretty much impossible to have a number 1 single but having 4 songs in top 20 is more realisitc. And lets not forget that STTB is 50 highest debut single in history, making it to nb. 32 in his deubut week on Billboard top 100 last week. This week however, it dissapeared from the charts, maybe they pulled it off the radio ???
But yeah, STTB and Amusem. Park(which is fairly new though) arent not Disco Inferno and Candy Shop when it comes to hit factor but fuck the sales, I liked them both better.
EDIT: STTB is also TRL top 10 and BET Top 10 countdown, week after the video premiered.
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i'm sure nobody is going to agree with me but..
i think 50 is anticipating that he is going to 'flop' by his standards. By Jay-Z's standards, his last album 'flopped'. It hasn't gone 2X platinum yet and he spent so much on the marketing.. Interscope/Aftermath is probably assuming that 50 is going to flop as well. I'm pretty sure this is all being considered in negotiations..
If i was interscope/Aftermath, i would drop 50 after this album comes out. They've maxed him out and his G-Unit venture isn't good.
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That doesnt really make sense because if that was the case than they might as well drop all their artists. 50 is, next to Eminem, the most secure artists to do his numbers under the Interscope umbrella.
And 50 never uses huge budgests, usually he only has Dre and Em from the superstar producers and no guets. Now yes this time its different but still 12 track out of 18 would be produced by inhouse producers + Em and Dre.
Same goes for his GUnit artists, they all have low budget LPs, with inhouse producers and small amount of guests. Again, if they were to drop them, than drop Shady cus their doing worst than GUnit, drop Izone or whatever that Polow Da Don label is, since Rich Boy completley flopped..... you get my point
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whatever that Polow Da Don label is, since Rich Boy completley flopped..... you get my point
the whole rich boi doesn't really work, because out all the interscope releases this yr, rich boi probably had the lowest budget, seeing every song was produced by polow (or nearly every song) and there weren't ALOT of big name guests
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True but same goes for every GUnit release with addition to them selling more.
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Ever since "The Massacre" dropped, G-Unit sales have been on a steady downfall. People aren't checking for them like they used to and I think even 50 Cent himself will be a victim to this G-Unit backlash in terms of heavy sales. Granted, the business is changing and everyone's record sales are suffering, but with 50 pushing his album back to September 4, it looks like it will either generate a huge buzz or it will kill a legitmate amount of push for the album in the long run.
Yayo was the first real flop by G-Unit standards. Then the Get Rich Or Die Tryin' sountrack did decent numbers, but it still failed to produce any high ranking hits. "Window Shopper" peaked at #20 on the Hot 100. Then we had Mobb Deep's record, another disappointment in terms of G-Unit standards...then Banks had his shot, another album that failed on a commercial level. Same with Buck if you think about it. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the recent G-Unit releases and I don't consider them as being disappointing albums at all. But that's just my opinion, the facts speak for themselves as do the numbers. 50 needs his following singles to blow up big time, because it doesn't look like they're going to chart that high at this point. Like Timbo said, STTB was a hot shot debut at #32 but it dropped well over 10 spots this week and the video just premiered. I like the joints he put out, but he needs Dre to hit him with a club banger. That formula never failed before.
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LUDACRIS DID 3 MILL on TWO OF HIS ALBUMS. THATS A BIG DIFF BETWEEN 2 U NUTS!
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Fuck Interscope. Fuck 50.
WTF man, 50 Cent HAS NOTHING to do with this. It's RECORD LABEL BULLSHIT.
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hm, i think interscope should not dick with 50 like this.
from a pure business standpoint, cause like TTK said, he is easily the most surefire moneymaker they have.
from an artistic standpoint, this is whacker yet cause I'd rather all the mentions of 50 in this thread were replaced with "Bishop" and all mentions of "Curtis" were replaced with "the reformation'.
this is so bad, it's like talking about waiting for a whack appetizer when you're really just wanting the meal.
-T
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Won't this album fulfill his contract? They probly want to milk him for all he's worth before he has the opportunity to go.
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Won't this album fulfill his contract? They probly want to milk him for all he's worth before he has the opportunity to go.
nah, this is one third of what's left in his contract. this one, BISD and the Greatest Hits will fulfill the contract.
-T
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Christ, this is fucking HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE. 50 gettin pushed back?!? Shit ain't sweet, that's all I can say. I hope yall know that regardless of what the official spin is by 50 and the label, this absolutely means that they weren't satisified with the response to his single(s). I knew 50 was gonna slump sales wise as his wackness has been getting more and more evident, but I didn't see him getting pushed back, especially 3 MONTHS.
I honestly can't remember, but who else was supposed to drop the same day as 50 in June? I remember saying that mos def one of them was gonna get pushed back, but honest to God I didn't expect it to be 50.
I've been sayin it for a while, but to me, this really signifies the end of 50's reign. He's still gonna go plat, but understand that this is major.
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^^^^^^^
I think it was Ja Rule who is meant 2 be dropping the same day. lol
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Sucks for Curtis "Interscope" Jackson and his fans. (http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3750/roflqy2.gif)
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Christ, this is fucking HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE. 50 gettin pushed back?!? Shit ain't sweet, that's all I can say. I hope yall know that regardless of what the official spin is by 50 and the label, this absolutely means that they weren't satisified with the response to his single(s). I knew 50 was gonna slump sales wise as his wackness has been getting more and more evident, but I didn't see him getting pushed back, especially 3 MONTHS.
I honestly can't remember, but who else was supposed to drop the same day as 50 in June? I remember saying that mos def one of them was gonna get pushed back, but honest to God I didn't expect it to be 50.
I've been sayin it for a while, but to me, this really signifies the end of 50's reign. He's still gonna go plat, but understand that this is major.
Bothz T.I. and Ja Rule, both pushed their album back too.
But yeah 3 months is fucking wierd. Soemthing fishy is going on.
I say again to 50, release a double disc with BISD concept and get the fuck aways from Interscope.
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The wierdest thing is how I am reading right now how hes gonna host a BET show for a week and how he was saying 2,3 days ago(!) on several interview how this album is great and how excited he is to release it. So, its not like this move was in the air for lets say 2,3 weeks, its like everything changed in a day or two.
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good, later the better
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The wierdest thing is how I am reading right now how hes gonna host a BET show for a week and how he was saying 2,3 days ago(!) on several interview how this album is great and how excited he is to release it. So, its not like this move was in the air for lets say 2,3 weeks, its like everything changed in a day or two.
He still says he's excited about it, isn't he? And how does him being in the media all the time indicate how this whole thing was a decision that was suddenly made? Is that because you think he might peak too soon, with the people being tired of him by the time his album drops? Because otherwise, I don't really see it.
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No, because either hes a great actor or he had no idea that in 3 days everything will change. He was on TRL monday, BET black carper tuesday, did an interview for MTV on tuesday, so were talking 2,3 days before the move was made. And when he was on those shows all he talked about was how great the cd is, how excited he is to release it, said the song with Robin Thicke will premier in a week, was an attention whore and kept saying "Curtis, June 26th." And thats why its strange and indicates that he had no idea this will happen till maybe wednesday, thursday and that something big must have happened, as opposed to them thinking about it for lets say, past 2,3 weeks.
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I think it's 'cause of lack of buzz. Yes, it's true that 50's been on everything lately - TV, magazines, the water deal, the videos - but I don't see people buying into it. Things aren't popping off like they were when the Massacre was coming out, and sure as hell not like when GRODT was coming out. On both of those occasions 50 was on every media outlet AND the people were talking about him. Now it seems that 50's on every media outlet again, but nobody seems to give a fuck. The only conversation I've witnessed about 50's new shit has been on this forum.
For sure, at least, that's how it is on this side of the Atlantic. Nobody's giving a fuck about 50 here. I haven't even seen the videos on MTV here yet.
Plus, the singles are crap, so there's no help from that side either.
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With both of his singles falling off the top 100 is this a smart thing to do? Anybody else think this could be a negotiating tactic by Iovine after that Warner Bros info came out?
I didn't see that question when I initially posted. That's an interesting point though. However, I do think the writing was on the wall, and this was inevitable. Sales-wise, everything G-Unit put out sold less and less. Damn near everything that they've put out has been basically forgotten about within a couple weeks. The quality hasn't been there, almost every release has been pushed back, and some artists that got a nice push from 50 never even saw the light of day (Olivia). Everything they put out was so gimmicky and formulaic and it eventually caught up to them.
I really think it's a product of all of that. 50 has gotten more and more desperate to keep his name out there. And more gimmicks - releasing what, 4 singles within like 2 weeks of each other or something? It's like his plan was to throw 4 different songs out there to try and cater to 4 markets, hoping that one of them would take off. Well so far that has worked horribly because even if he ends up w/ 1 of those 4 doing somewhat well, you still have the fact that at least the 1st 2 haven't charted well at all, or even fallen off the charts already. So he's failed off top right there.
For the most part, 50 has made stupid music career moves pretty much ever since GRODT. I've still never bought into the hype of him being this great businessman. He's got the money to hire smart ass business people which has obviously worked out well for him. But when you look at the decisions he's made as far as the music business over the last few years, I'd say they were questionable at best. He fucked up because he started believing his own hype - he thought he could oversaturate the market and people wouldn't get tired of his schtick. That's fundamental business acumen right there and he was oblivious to it.
Damn kinda went on a rant there...but shit having said all that I don't believe Jimmy SOLELY pushed it back as a negotiating tactic, but if you don't think that played a roll you better ax somebody. Jimmy is a true businessman and wouldn't be at the level he is at if he wasn't a shrewd motherfucker.
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But the thing is nobody is selling shit. From the begginning of 06, the only artists who are actually happy with their sales are probably Jay-Z, Ludacris and T.I., and even Jay and Luda probably expected more, so that leaves with T.I. being the only rapper who did what he wanted to, if not even more. So its funny how people keep talking about this GUnit theories about them not doint their old numbers. I guess they had it coming, sicne they couldnt stop braging about them but you have to look past that and be realistic.
I think that the main problem is 50s obssesion with sales. He would kill himself if he "only" did 2,3 mill, he wants to do 5x plat again.
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1) I've been MIA on the forum just under a month and I didn't
a) hear any of his singles
b)hear any one talk about 50
c) hear anyone bump 50
d) wasn't sure if STTB had been released anywhere but dubcnn
actually, i'm still not sure what's been released and what hasn't
-T
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1) I've been MIA on the forum just under a month and I didn't
a) hear any of his singles
b)hear any one talk about 50
c) hear anyone bump 50
d) wasn't sure if STTB had been released anywhere but dubcnn
actually, i'm still not sure what's been released and what hasn't
-T
lol str8 to the bank & amusement park have videos out
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Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.
Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped + the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.
Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal. He started running his mouth too soon.
Get his dick out your mouth i'm sick of coming here & seeing your continous exageration of 50 Cent's success & impact & his future while down playing Game & others. Be objective instead of dick riding
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Lol, none of those are even close to what 50 Cent does. The best they did was going 2x times plat, 50 went 7x plat, 6x times plat, has a 2x plat gorup album and soundtrack. Theyre not even close. 50 would kill T.I. in a sales race. T.I. will go 1x plat max, Big Things Poppin is the shit but it doesnt have that crossover appeal and for that big 1st single, that track with Wycleaf is not good enough.
Thats why I dont get why 50 got pushed back. Its definetly not because the lack of buzz, because dude was/is everywhere right now. Htting your TRLs, 106 N Parks, cover of Vibe, Vitaming Water commercial, BET awards performance. Also single wise, like I said before Straight To The Bank was doing great, Amusement Park is still only out for 3 weeks and I bet it would get bigger and bigger. Then the song with Robin Thicke should premier this tuesday and Come And Go in 4 weeks. I live in a small country and Ive heard STTB 3 times today on a radio channel that never plays rap. He is a household name, he'd go 1x-2x plat off his name alone and when all those singles dropped + the Justin track, he'd do his numbers again.
Like someone above said, it might have something to do with the Warner Bros deal. He started running his mouth too soon.
Get his dick out your mouth i'm sick of coming here & seeing your continous exageration of 50 Cent's success & impact & his future while down playing Game & others. Be objective instead of dick riding
engies, you're my homey but who else has gone diamond in the last ten years? I think that's all he's saying.
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also, let me be the first to say
1) the album that was gonna be released at the end of June is NOT the album we will hear in september
2) The album that was gonna be released in June will be bootlegged by the time the final version comes out in sept.
-T
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^^ Yep and jugding by those snippets, it didnt sound to promising, so maybe in the end its actually a good thing. I really hope he releases an double LP with BISD concept, becasue that 4th Feb date for it, is now unrealistic, and gets off Interscope.
Heres what was posted on American Idol site, probably just BS:
7:35 PM EST
KELLY VS 50 Cent?
Secrets behind the label doors
It would not have been the first time the two have gone against each other. In 2005, they both had high selling albums of almost 5 million units in the US alone. Clive Davis (one of the music industries most powerful people) is very dissatisfied with Kelly's new album, and he feels it does not contain any radio strong hits. Her first single "Never Again" has been performing very weekly on the radio. On the American Idol 6 finale, he shot some subliminal jabs in his speech about how Carrie Underwood (last years winner) is doing better in sales and on the charts. The album was supposed to release in July, but since the first single is under performing, the album was bumped up to June 26...the same day as millionaire rapper 50 Cent. Inside sources have revealed that even though 50's album was finalized, mixed, and mastered earlier this week, 50 would like to work on a few more songs...but that is not it. Execs working with Clive Davis have confirmed that he and 50 Cent had a meeting in person this week. What happened in that meeting is not fully known at the time, but the Execs are almost positive that Clive offered a few millions of dollars for the push back of his junior album Curtis. More on this story as it uncovers.
Source: Idol Generator News
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so what were the 4 singles and who produced 'em TTK? all I heard was hearsay, what's the real
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2 got released so far:
Straight To The Bank (produced by Ty Fyfe)
Amusement Park (produced by Dangerous LLC)
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Follow My Lead feat. Robin Thicke (produced by The Bizness) was planned to premier this Tuesday
Come And Go (produced by Dr.Dre) was planned to premier in 4,5 weeks
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^^ Yep and jugding by those snippets, it didnt sound to promising, so maybe in the end its actually a good thing. I really hope he releases an double LP with BISD concept, becasue that 4th Feb date for it, is now unrealistic, and gets off Interscope.
Heres what was posted on American Idol site, probably just BS:
7:35 PM EST
KELLY VS 50 Cent?
Secrets behind the label doors
It would not have been the first time the two have gone against each other. In 2005, they both had high selling albums of almost 5 million units in the US alone. Clive Davis (one of the music industries most powerful people) is very dissatisfied with Kelly's new album, and he feels it does not contain any radio strong hits. Her first single "Never Again" has been performing very weekly on the radio. On the American Idol 6 finale, he shot some subliminal jabs in his speech about how Carrie Underwood (last years winner) is doing better in sales and on the charts. The album was supposed to release in July, but since the first single is under performing, the album was bumped up to June 26...the same day as millionaire rapper 50 Cent. Inside sources have revealed that even though 50's album was finalized, mixed, and mastered earlier this week, 50 would like to work on a few more songs...but that is not it. Execs working with Clive Davis have confirmed that he and 50 Cent had a meeting in person this week. What happened in that meeting is not fully known at the time, but the Execs are almost positive that Clive offered a few millions of dollars for the push back of his junior album Curtis. More on this story as it uncovers.
Source: Idol Generator News
LMFAO - Complete Bullshit. Shoulda known that the spin would start coming. Now it's 50 getting paid off by rival record labels to push his album back 3 months? There's no way in hell that Interscope is gonna push back their biggest release of the year in the midst of this HUGE marketing barrage because another label offered 50 a few million dollars. That's retarded.
IF 50 met w/ Clive Davis, I'm sure it was a discussion to see if 50 would possibly sign w/ his label. That might actually make sense in light of everything going on.
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is come and go available to us in cdq yet?
-T
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is come and go available to us in cdq yet?
-T
nope
that clive davis story is comedic just as jrome said :D
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when was the last time any artist related to aftermath actually got their album out following a good buzz (single) at the right time. whenever a good single is released an album is not forthcoming soon enough to capatalise on sales and usually when albums are being dropped the singles at that time aren't getting enough spins (mainly due to being sub standard)...its laughable...