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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: AK on June 14, 2007, 11:26:34 PM
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This is just a rumour reported by Media Take Out at this stage, but it’s still interesting. It seems after Straight To The Bank and Amusement Park flopped, Interscope and Curtis Jackson are in the middle of a stand off in relation to 50’s next album, Curtis. Here’s the story:
June 12, 2007. Music industry insiders were shocked a few weeks ago when Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson announced that the release of his third studio album Curtis would be pushed back three months. The official explanation for the delay was that it was a “necessary course of action … to ensure the album’s simultaneous worldwide release.”
But one of MediaTakeOut.com’s insiders at Interscope Records gave us the real deal on what happened. According to the insider, record company execs want 50 Cent to re-record at least five new tracks for the album. The insider explains, “The public didn’t respond well to the first two singles [Amusement Park and Straight to the Bank] and people here got freaked out … [One top executive] wants to make sure that there’s at least one hit on the album. And he wasn’t convinced by what he heard.”
There’s one big problem with this idea though. 50 Cent is refusing to do any more tracks unless Interscope coughs up significantly more money. The insider tells, “In [50]’s mind he’s done with Curtis and he’s moved on to [his next album] - which happens to be his last under contract [with Interscope].” Our snitch continues, “He’s asking for an additional seven figures just to get him back in the studio.”
And it looks like a showdown is brewing between 50 Cent and his record label. The tipster tells MediaTakeOut.com, “Right now everyone’s still trying to stay clam, but the lawyers are getting involved - and you know what that means … If it were anyone else [besides 50 Cent], I’d say that this whole thing could be worked out. But right now, I can’t even begin to predict what’s going to happen with that album.”
Source: Grounduphiphop.com
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hopefully the album gets shelved for a long long time
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i think everyone had pretty much worked this out, 50's problem is that he and g unit have over sacturated themself in the mainstream.
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That's why shady pulled fiddy back months ago from releasing this new joint,cause even shady knew that fiddy over saturated the north american market,and now with that being said,we all know that the g unit roster,with the exception of young buck can't go back to being underground.
I do know this though, we got a cat that's being looked at and hopefully fiddy see's the potential in this up n coming cat
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my god straight to the bank and amusement park flopped sooooo bad, another L for Cuuuurrrttttiiiissss
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I think 50’s real problem is he doesn’t try anything different. I’m not saying he needs to reinvent himself but damn man, how many times are you going to come with that same Dre (or dre esk) produced, dumbed down lyrics, rapping for the ladies first single. It’s old and it’s boring. We’ve heard that from 50. Now the fans want something fresh or we don’t want anything at all.
If he really was the business minded genies he claims to be he’d realize now is the time to switch it up in a big way. Drop an album full of street/backpack records. Work with different mid-level producers, no one big name. Concentrate on the lyrics and being creative, no love songs, no club songs. Forget about an album the radio wants to play and focus on an album people want to listen to.
Then there wont be so much pressure to out do himself. If he comes with something totally different he can explain away lack of sales or radio play as, “hey, it’s a totally different sound it isn’t for the radio.” As it stands now he keeps coming with the same shit and if he doesn’t sell more records and get more radio play than the last time the perception is he’s losing it.
Interscope and Shady saw this months ago, if 50 doesn’t read the writing on the wall he’ll have to no choice but to retire to save face.
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I was at the barbershop when the weak video for Amusement Park came on. It was like a very weak, recycled version of Candy Shop.
Does anyone know who produced Amusement Park and Straight to the Bank?
50 cent did over expose himself. he is a has been. no direction.
Aren't Eminem and Dr Dre usually Executive Producers? Why haven't they said something to put that nigga in place? No way Dre makes whack beats. so, i don't think he produced those two whack first singles.
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Does anyone know who produced Amusement Park and Straight to the Bank?
Below the Westcoast section, there's a section called The Vault..
The Vault
Album Credits, Producer Credits, Artist/Producer Discographies, Videographies, Samples, etc.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=142367.0
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I dont know tho over saturated???
Rocafella was putting out like 4 records a year with JAy z putting out a record at least oce a year and htose dint flop.
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my god straight to the bank and amusement park flopped sooooo bad, another L for Cuuuurrrttttiiiissss
But he still >>>>> Dipset in any way. What has Dipset done in the last 2 years what was really profitable and positive? Jim jones' record, LOL, that's a fucked up album. Too long, too many beats sounding the same plus too many guests, and let's not even get started about the lyrics.
You have no reason to hate. For real. 8)
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Jim Jones sold almost 400k indepentently and his album was the album of the year last year.
Dipset is 100000x better than Gunit ya dig
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I dont know tho over saturated???
Rocafella was putting out like 4 records a year with JAy z putting out a record at least oce a year and htose dint flop.
I hate Jay-Z, but he could actually flow if he tried. I don't think 50 can. Plus Jay aligned himself with some of the best rappers, unlike 50 who hates everyone in the industry. Jay is a real businessman, whereas 50 is a product of hype because of Eminem.
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I think 50’s real problem is he doesn’t try anything different. I’m not saying he needs to reinvent himself but damn man, how many times are you going to come with that same Dre (or dre esk) produced, dumbed down lyrics, rapping for the ladies first single. It’s old and it’s boring. We’ve heard that from 50. Now the fans want something fresh or we don’t want anything at all.
If he really was the business minded genies he claims to be he’d realize now is the time to switch it up in a big way. Drop an album full of street/backpack records. Work with different mid-level producers, no one big name. Concentrate on the lyrics and being creative, no love songs, no club songs. Forget about an album the radio wants to play and focus on an album people want to listen to.
Then there wont be so much pressure to out do himself. If he comes with something totally different he can explain away lack of sales or radio play as, “hey, it’s a totally different sound it isn’t for the radio.” As it stands now he keeps coming with the same shit and if he doesn’t sell more records and get more radio play than the last time the perception is he’s losing it.
Interscope and Shady saw this months ago, if 50 doesn’t read the writing on the wall he’ll have to no choice but to retire to save face.
props for spitting the real shit
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Jim Jones sold almost 400k indepentently and his album was the album of the year last year.
Dipset is 100000x better than Gunit ya dig
So that's your only argument? :-\
400k is nothing, independant or not.
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I agree with Efrain on some levels. Now I always thought STTB was straight fire but that Amusement Park is wack as fuck. It clear it was made in mind with "hey, lets make Candy Shop part 2." The sad thing 50 can put out everythign he wants and he would still sell, which just proves us with AP, because if the date sticked to June 26th, hed still do Kingdom Come numbers, meaning outselling every rap album in past the 3 years.
Which brings me to the label politics, because I cant even imagine the pressure theyre putting on him this time. We all know Jimmy told him to recoup the 12 millions album slumps from last year. So its that much harder for him, to come up with the music he wants to, without thinking about record sales. I think the label execs see him as this money making machine and not an artists who loves the music itself. Dont get me wrong half the blame is on 50 too.
Curtis sounded from the leaked tracks and some snippets, like nothing special, another todays "lets make an album as the label wants it to" album. Thats why I hope he releases an double LP in September and gets off Interscope.
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I dont know tho over saturated???
Rocafella was putting out like 4 records a year with JAy z putting out a record at least oce a year and htose dint flop.
I hate Jay-Z, but he could actually flow if he tried. I don't think 50 can. Plus Jay aligned himself with some of the best rappers, unlike 50 who hates everyone in the industry. Jay is a real businessman, whereas 50 is a product of hype because of Eminem.
THats true because
Siegal kills any memeber of Gunit and so does M BLeek. Actualy so deos freeway lol
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50 dug himself a pretty big hole with all the sales talk.. i dont think he'll sell another 10 mill.
it's his own fault for talking so much shit though.
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At this point 50 just needs to get the fuck out of Interscope, release his shit without restrictions on his own indie label, go about 3x plat... that would probably be the best solution for his nerves, his music and his pocket.
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THe time of the indie labels is coming sooner then we all might think, we already have some people showing a little succes (artisticaly and sales-wise). Jim Jones sold 400k, that's not much, but still not a really bad thing regarding the quality of his music. Joell Ortiz dropped a classic (dunno how much it sold though) and i can others going this way in the near future as well.
I think what hiphop needs is a big name star (like 50 Cent or Jay-Z) to go to an indie label and release the shit they want to make and lead the way for the masses. If one starts it, and it is a (slight( succes, more will follow, and eventually it will make hiphop a little bit more open and artistic again, cause these recycled success-formula's are running dry now.
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I'm not a fan of his, but 50 could care less about the rap game. With the vitamin water investment he recently made, he could open his own large distribution company. He holds all the cards and Interscope knows it.
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Jim Jones sold almost 400k indepentently and his album was the album of the year last year.
Dipset is 100000x better than Gunit ya dig
LMAO @ Best album of 06. :grumpy:
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^^IMO it was man, Hustlers POME was fuckin awesome
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agree to disagree.....IMO jim jones is/was and forever will be garbage....no beat in the world could save that guy
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thats cool you feel that way Spice, but i dont think anyone outside of dipcc and jim jones' hoodrats in harlem would agree with you...
anyone saying 50 cents not a good businessman, i have 2 words for you: vitamin water.
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well..hope 50's done with music and just move on.
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^^IMO it was man, Hustlers POME was fuckin awesome
how was it awesome? becuz of his lyricism? cuz he paints vivid pictures in his raps? LMAO...fuck outta here wit ya brainless posting
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For real, Jim Jones' lyrics are W.A.C.K. that makes the album garbage. They wisely used the popularity of thier slang for their singles like Ballin' but even you Spice can't say his lyrics are deep or anything like that.
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I dont know tho over saturated???
Rocafella was putting out like 4 records a year with JAy z putting out a record at least oce a year and htose dint flop.
I hate Jay-Z, but he could actually flow if he tried. I don't think 50 can. Plus Jay aligned himself with some of the best rappers, unlike 50 who hates everyone in the industry. Jay is a real businessman, whereas 50 is a product of hype because of Eminem.
THats true because
Siegal kills any memeber of Gunit and so does M BLeek. Actualy so deos freeway lol
Beanie Sigel definately, Freeway when he is on, but I can't consiously say Bleek could out rap G-Unit or anyone for that matter. Either way, 50 had a good run but I don't think he knows when to throw in the towel. He's the new Master P. If 50 hadn't been shot, he would have never been half as successful as he was. He has way too many yes men around him.
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I think 50’s real problem is he doesn’t try anything different. I’m not saying he needs to reinvent himself but damn man, how many times are you going to come with that same Dre (or dre esk) produced, dumbed down lyrics, rapping for the ladies first single. It’s old and it’s boring. We’ve heard that from 50. Now the fans want something fresh or we don’t want anything at all.
If he really was the business minded genies he claims to be he’d realize now is the time to switch it up in a big way. Drop an album full of street/backpack records. Work with different mid-level producers, no one big name. Concentrate on the lyrics and being creative, no love songs, no club songs. Forget about an album the radio wants to play and focus on an album people want to listen to.
Then there wont be so much pressure to out do himself. If he comes with something totally different he can explain away lack of sales or radio play as, “hey, it’s a totally different sound it isn’t for the radio.” As it stands now he keeps coming with the same shit and if he doesn’t sell more records and get more radio play than the last time the perception is he’s losing it.
Interscope and Shady saw this months ago, if 50 doesn’t read the writing on the wall he’ll have to no choice but to retire to save face.
I agree completely. And even though I haven't liked 50's stuff after GRODT (save a few cuts here and there), I think he could do it. He was never one to compete for the G.O.A.T.-crown, no way, but he used to spit real good. It just seems that once he got rich, all motivation was gone. Too bad.
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I think 50’s real problem is he doesn’t try anything different. I’m not saying he needs to reinvent himself but damn man, how many times are you going to come with that same Dre (or dre esk) produced, dumbed down lyrics, rapping for the ladies first single. It’s old and it’s boring. We’ve heard that from 50. Now the fans want something fresh or we don’t want anything at all.
If he really was the business minded genies he claims to be he’d realize now is the time to switch it up in a big way. Drop an album full of street/backpack records. Work with different mid-level producers, no one big name. Concentrate on the lyrics and being creative, no love songs, no club songs. Forget about an album the radio wants to play and focus on an album people want to listen to.
Then there wont be so much pressure to out do himself. If he comes with something totally different he can explain away lack of sales or radio play as, “hey, it’s a totally different sound it isn’t for the radio.” As it stands now he keeps coming with the same shit and if he doesn’t sell more records and get more radio play than the last time the perception is he’s losing it.
Interscope and Shady saw this months ago, if 50 doesn’t read the writing on the wall he’ll have to no choice but to retire to save face.
I agree completely. And even though I haven't liked 50's stuff after GRODT (save a few cuts here and there), I think he could do it. He was never one to compete for the G.O.A.T.-crown, no way, but he used to spit real good. It just seems that once he got rich, all motivation was gone. Too bad.
True that's some real talk. But everyone drags in other (hatin') arguments like 'he's a snitch" and blablabla. The same people bump Scarface on the regular, lol.
It is very true he can do better, just need some motivation. It's a shame that talent is lost this way, even though i agree with the dude who said Interscope probably is to blame as well for the lack of creativity on G-Unit's part. They were really tight back in hte days, nowadays their music just sounds different.