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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 01:00:50 PM

Title: My phone > iPhone (Now: My phone = iPhone)
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 01:00:50 PM
True story. Whoever bought the iphone got ripped. I can do everything that the iPhone can do and more (except touch screen obviously) and this phone costed me absolutely NOTHING. I got iTunes with a hundred songs and can surf the net on EDGE. Oh yeah, the phone is hella small & pink biatch. Dipset.

Oh yeah, and I can do MMS. I still don't see that on the iPhone.

(http://www.store.motorola.com/mot/en/US/htdocs/productMgr/datasheet/phone_PinkSLVR_Cing.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: swangin and bangin on September 03, 2007, 04:17:07 PM
what service you got?

DIPSET bitch!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 04:49:57 PM
ATT. Certain spots in my house I get real shit reception but everywhere else i get like 5 bars.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: rik on September 03, 2007, 04:53:25 PM
nah
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 04:55:06 PM
lol keep dreaming
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 04:55:17 PM
nah

shut yo mouth you big dummy
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 04:55:45 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: rik on September 03, 2007, 04:56:19 PM
nah

shut yo mouth you big dummy

nah
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 05:00:19 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

and as a matter of fact i already have my phone loaded even before that... i have a full NES emulator with tons of games on it and have installed native apps on it ... not very hard at all... and trust that apple is going to release new features with time and i think ringtone service from itunes is coming on the 5th along with new ipods... moto has the most crappy os ever... get yourself atleast a sony ericsson before you claim anything being even close to being > than iphone

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/07/iphone-nes-fast-usable-totally-rewritten/
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 06:24:22 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

and as a matter of fact i already have my phone loaded even before that... i have a full NES emulator with tons of games on it and have installed native apps on it ... not very hard at all... and trust that apple is going to release new features with time and i think ringtone service from itunes is coming on the 5th along with new ipods... moto has the most crappy os ever... get yourself atleast a sony ericsson before you claim anything being even close to being > than iphone

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/07/iphone-nes-fast-usable-totally-rewritten/

yeah you had to hack your phone for that. i didn't have to do shit besides download a jar file.

plus i paid all of zero dollars for this phone. 0 dollars > iphone.

i have a gameboy color emulator  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 06:53:28 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

and as a matter of fact i already have my phone loaded even before that... i have a full NES emulator with tons of games on it and have installed native apps on it ... not very hard at all... and trust that apple is going to release new features with time and i think ringtone service from itunes is coming on the 5th along with new ipods... moto has the most crappy os ever... get yourself atleast a sony ericsson before you claim anything being even close to being > than iphone

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/07/iphone-nes-fast-usable-totally-rewritten/

yeah you had to hack your phone for that. i didn't have to do shit besides download a jar file.

plus i paid all of zero dollars for this phone. 0 dollars > iphone.

i have a gameboy color emulator  8)

no hack on the http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/ just download just as you did your .jar file... very simple even easier than i used to do with those piece of shit motorolas with bluetooth...

and for the nintendo an any other apps i have on the iphone all i had to do was download one app that installs all the rest... no hackin buddy... the app installs it for you... no terminal or commands or anything... although i did hack the phone before these things came out... but now its all super simple for anyone to do...

ive had nokias, sony ericssons, moto, LG, and out of those the 2 moto's i had were the ones i really hated.. they sucked ass.. sony ericssons had tons of features before most makers... especially bluetooth support in there t68i back in the day... but apple has made all the features that get put into a phone easy and simple to use... not like you and that wap browser you have to use on that phone... that is not very ideal or useable...


now there is downfalls for the iphone..

no mms
no sending text messages to multiple parties
no video

but what it Does have it does extremely well unlike most makers..
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 07:41:15 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

and as a matter of fact i already have my phone loaded even before that... i have a full NES emulator with tons of games on it and have installed native apps on it ... not very hard at all... and trust that apple is going to release new features with time and i think ringtone service from itunes is coming on the 5th along with new ipods... moto has the most crappy os ever... get yourself atleast a sony ericsson before you claim anything being even close to being > than iphone

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/07/iphone-nes-fast-usable-totally-rewritten/

yeah you had to hack your phone for that. i didn't have to do shit besides download a jar file.

plus i paid all of zero dollars for this phone. 0 dollars > iphone.

i have a gameboy color emulator  8)

no hack on the http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/ just download just as you did your .jar file... very simple even easier than i used to do with those piece of shit motorolas with bluetooth...

and for the nintendo an any other apps i have on the iphone all i had to do was download one app that installs all the rest... no hackin buddy... the app installs it for you... no terminal or commands or anything... although i did hack the phone before these things came out... but now its all super simple for anyone to do...

ive had nokias, sony ericssons, moto, LG, and out of those the 2 moto's i had were the ones i really hated.. they sucked ass.. sony ericssons had tons of features before most makers... especially bluetooth support in there t68i back in the day... but apple has made all the features that get put into a phone easy and simple to use... not like you and that wap browser you have to use on that phone... that is not very ideal or useable...


now there is downfalls for the iphone..

no mms
no sending text messages to multiple parties
no video

but what it Does have it does extremely well unlike most makers..

LOL @ wap browser. when was the last time you used a cell phone?

(http://i2.tinypic.com/645ip7c.png)

So lets go ahead and open opera and check my myspace.

(http://i10.tinypic.com/4xyj1c4.png)

(http://i11.tinypic.com/3ygrb6c.png)

see how the image is flipped like that? never seen a wap browser do that.

(http://i16.tinypic.com/4q5ogb7.png)

Time to play some music.

(http://i13.tinypic.com/4zxb7s1.png)

(http://i8.tinypic.com/4p1rk7b.png)

(http://i14.tinypic.com/6bm3z2f.png)

(http://i4.tinypic.com/4yi3qky.png)

And I don't have to stop playing music to use my phone :)

(http://i16.tinypic.com/5x6t7yt.png)

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 08:15:23 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

and as a matter of fact i already have my phone loaded even before that... i have a full NES emulator with tons of games on it and have installed native apps on it ... not very hard at all... and trust that apple is going to release new features with time and i think ringtone service from itunes is coming on the 5th along with new ipods... moto has the most crappy os ever... get yourself atleast a sony ericsson before you claim anything being even close to being > than iphone

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/07/iphone-nes-fast-usable-totally-rewritten/

Going back to this post. LMAO @ having to buy a program just to put ring tones on a phone. What a waste of money. This is coming from a dude who's well off.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 03, 2007, 08:23:16 PM
The iPhone is an overrated piece of shit. My Nokia from 2002 is better.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 08:38:54 PM
please homie... you are kidding yourself with those images... look at this video... how you going to even compare this...

http://www.youtube.com/v/dK1hsEd0Dmc

and for the ringtones i get them on the phone for free and a shit load in 192 encoding too since i do have 8gigs to use  ;)

and just like you guys are adding opera or an "app" to your phones so can i but with a beautiful 480x320 pixel resoulution at 160dpi and 3.5inch screen

not a 176x220 tiny low resolution screen

and why dont you try adding a button to your phone while you are at it...

apps can be made anyway they want to be made on the iphone since everything is touch screen... dont have to use the button scheme that is layed out on your phone already.

your phone cant even compare with this...

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=498

let alone an iphone...

k700i was a great phone for its time...

shit i even liked the t616 better... no lie..
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: swangin and bangin on September 03, 2007, 08:42:40 PM
^
iphone aint pink
it allready lost
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonevsrokr.jpg)

like i said tho... keep kidding your self with your tiny screen
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 08:56:33 PM
^
iphone aint pink
it allready lost

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/pinkiphone.png)  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Sikotic™ on September 03, 2007, 09:30:52 PM
^ That's got some piff points right there.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 09:34:24 PM
^ That's got some piff points right there.
lol pifftastic
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 09:40:06 PM
LOL @ wap browser. when was the last time you used a cell phone?

(http://i2.tinypic.com/645ip7c.png)

So lets go ahead and open opera and check my myspace.

(http://i10.tinypic.com/4xyj1c4.png)

(http://i11.tinypic.com/3ygrb6c.png)


keep trying buddy..  8)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace2.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace3.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 09:43:57 PM
And how much did yours cost? Exactly.

I win.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 09:53:37 PM
not really when the thread is titled "My phone > iPhone"

i win  ;)

and i paid $650 including tax  ;)

all i can say is you pay for what you get...

ive gotten "free" phones in the past myself... its not like its something exclusive you are getting... when something is worth it to you then you purchase it... plain and simple... but i can tell that the iphone is always the winner because people call it out by name just like when people are refering to "my mp3 player is better than an "IPOD" in the past.... same with iphone now... *looks at title*
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: swangin and bangin on September 03, 2007, 09:54:10 PM
LOL @ wap browser. when was the last time you used a cell phone?

(http://i2.tinypic.com/645ip7c.png)

So lets go ahead and open opera and check my myspace.

(http://i10.tinypic.com/4xyj1c4.png)

(http://i11.tinypic.com/3ygrb6c.png)


keep trying buddy..  8)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace2.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace3.jpg)
ahh
shit
what you ridin?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 09:57:06 PM
2005 Honda CBR 600RR

here is my baby...

(http://b5.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00418/51/93/418443915_l.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: swangin and bangin on September 03, 2007, 09:58:45 PM
nice
i got a yamaha R6S
(http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/content/images/600/08_r6s_blue_1_4274d3b0.jpg)
tryin to get a new exhaust
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 03, 2007, 10:24:36 PM
tight.. keep it up... take it easy....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: 187Proof on September 03, 2007, 10:32:23 PM
To be honest, ever since I first saw the ads for the iPhone, I've felt that my 8125 was at least as good as the iPhone, if not better.

True, I don't know all the specifics about the iPhone, but my 8125 has real-internet, mms, multiple texting, watch movies, tons of albums, couple games, all of my work stuff that goes in word, excel, etc, etc, etc.

I believe my phone was $400 when I bought it, btw.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: 187Proof on September 03, 2007, 10:37:19 PM
here's a few pics of my 8125, for those not familiar with it:

(http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/02/cing_8125-3.jpg)

(http://www.karbonsystems.com/images/kermit_kart/mainBug-8125.front.jpg)

(http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/images/gallery/hardware/mobile/cingular_8125_print.jpg[/img[img]http://www.theantiblogger.com/wp-content/photos/cingular_8125_back.jpg)

(http://www.smartmobileassets.com/SMAupload/patrickj/8125ilauncher.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 03, 2007, 11:04:51 PM
I think I went about this thread in the wrong way. Yeah I like the iPhone but the price is too high for a cell phone ya dig?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 04, 2007, 12:38:38 AM
(http://www.daydeal.com/files/images5/oldtyle_phone2.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: es-jay on September 04, 2007, 04:10:16 AM
^thats my shit!!





ima get this soon though... gettin tired of that brick...

(http://www.sonyericsson.com/images/spgd/GPD_44776_28_0_4000.png)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: swangin and bangin on September 04, 2007, 08:43:41 AM
my sidekick 3 urinates on all this

but im tryin to get another phone
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Theodore on September 04, 2007, 10:43:12 AM
i was gonna wait for the iphone too, but i bought the samsung U700 instead.

quite happy with it.

(http://www.bestelmaar.nl/image/00022/m5article/samsung_u700.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: 187Proof on September 04, 2007, 11:30:14 AM
Is the iPhone's payment plan similar to my 8125, where as you have to pay for the regular service each month, but then you have to pay an additional $40 or so if you want to have access to the internet as well?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Jip on September 04, 2007, 12:03:47 PM
i got a HTC universal

i win
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Ozir on September 04, 2007, 12:56:51 PM
Is the iPhone's payment plan similar to my 8125, where as you have to pay for the regular service each month, but then you have to pay an additional $40 or so if you want to have access to the internet as well?

http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html

(http://images.apple.com/iphone/gallery/images/gallery1_20070621.png)
 8)

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 04, 2007, 01:22:36 PM
Since it was so hard to move this thread to the OG thread,I moved the OG the thread over here;






^^
Haha, Maddox is funny.

On the real though, the iPhone is an expensive, already outdated piece of machinery. It's only got two things going for it:

1)It's got a sleek & sexy look to it, some say.

2)It's got Apple marketing forces to push it AND Apple enthusiasts, geeks, lovers and other Mac-loving mofos to suck it down.


http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-name-en.shtml ;

iPhone is shrouded in mystery and vagueness, and our readers seem perplexed about what this phone actually is, while Apple firmly believes it has re-invented the mobile phone and tries to foist its views off on consumers. With this piece we are kicking off a series of articles on the modern world of mobile phones, what and how Apple has created, what the place of the Apple iPhone among other handsets is. This product, as a phenomenon, is already here, so the only thing left to do is find out what it really can do, emotions, marketing tricks and tub-thumping fans aside. So, here goes the first installment.

For the time being users seem to be confused, as they continue to argue about “what is the iPhone?”. Is it a mere feature phone, or, perhaps, it can be qualified as an Apple-branded smartphone, or even a communicator, though the latter version doesn’t have many followers. Let’s take a closer look at this product’s positioning.

Some time ago the iPhone went by the name of apple smartphone; though I really have no idea what people sticking with it mean by that. In order to avoid delving deep into queer terms and puns, let’s remind ourselves, what the market accepts as a smartphone.

Smartphone – a handset running on a non-proprietary operating system that allows creation of additional applications by third-party developers, while all tools required for that are provided by the OS developer. In a word, you can install third-party programs, increasing overall functionality. So happens that smartphones powered by one and the same OS are released by different makers, so here comes another, indirect token – more than one manufacturer of such devices.


Java, being a separate multi-platform standard, meets the definition above in some way, but doesn’t offer those device management abilities offered by developers of stand-alone OS. At the same time, standardization of Java goes at full tilt and perhaps the moment, when the borderline between Java-programs and native applications is no more will come pretty soon.

The market features two major smartphone operating systems - Symbian, Windows Mobile. Linux inside does not automatically means that all devices running on it are smartphones. The LJ by Motorola is quite specific – at present it has all the locks on, being a closed operating system, and development of native applications for Linux MontaVista in it is impossible, that’s the thing only the maker himself can do.

Now let’s take a once-over of the iPhone’s abilities. Can you install own Java-applications on it? The answer is No – this standard is not supported. And what about applications from the desktop OS? No way. In spite of the dreams (that many had) about identical OS versions found in the phone and desktops, there is no such thing here. It appears that the difference is even more tremendous than between the desktop Safari and that the iPhone comes preinstalled with.

It turns out that no applications can be installed on the phone, so the user is limited to the pool of applications drawn by the maker in the first place. And in this sense, the handset doesn’t qualify as a smartphone by any means and calling it this way is somewhat ridiculous. What is more, MAC OS itself can’t turn a feature phone into a smartphone – it simply skimps on features.

The followers of the smartphone theory will usually feed you with these arguments:
Only smartphones sport huge touch-sensitive displays and on-screen keyboards. A very weak point, as the market offers loads of touchscreen-based devices that have nothing to do with smartphones. For example, the Nokia 6108 with its handwriting recognition for some Asian countries, even though it runs S40 by Nokia.
This is a smartphone, for it carries MAC OS onboard, just like the one in desktops. Hmm, really, really pitiful argument – if applications from desktop PCs could actually work here, then it would be a smartphone. But in this case, any OS would do – in any event, it is totally different from what the developers are experienced in, so there is no way for them to write own applications.
The feature pack and suite of applications clearly indicate that it is a smartphone. Apparently, people spreading this opinion have never encountered real smartphones with substantially greater default functionality. It is not even worth talking about.

At the same time, it would seem that Apple realizes how scanty this device is, and offers a way-out – network applications that can be launched via the browser. This is where we are stepping onto a tricky road, as we will have to speak about certain things that nullify the entire concept of this device and simply won’t be accepted by any of its fans.

Networks applications is the future of the mobile phone market – they are growing in numbers with every passing year, and new features keep popping up. Just remember Google Maps, whose implementation found in the iPhone is one of the market’s best. This is a default application, which is quite interesting. There will be other applications strongly connected with network resources, for instance WikiPedia. For the most part, these will be content-based services.

And if only this segment was unique to Apple, then we would say that the company is the pioneer and is now intensively building up a new niche. Alas! The first company to get the idea of network applications on board was Nokia. Today the number of various Widgets is far greater than that for the iPhone. The community of developers easily makes up new apps, is interested in them, and, more importantly, has all essential tools at its disposal. Again, no traits here for the iPhone.

But it is not the worst thing. Today’s smartphones are characterized by a tiny feature that brings them together – multitasking. Even feature phones are coming to grips with it – platforms A100, A200 Sony Ericsson, Nokia S40 5th Edition FP2 (Q1, Q2, 2008) and later on – Motorola’s LJ.

The iPhone has not multitasking whatsoever, of course if you don’t count its ability to play music in background mode. In a word, you can’t handle your mail and organizer at the same time, switching between them, copying data from the latter and pasting it into letters, adding some notes etc. This means the iPhone doesn’t have to goods to allow you manage your time with ease. Instead of that, you are down to perform one task in one sitting. Is that bad? By no means, there is nothing to be ashamed of, many phones can’t do that either. So, we finally come to the verdict that the iPhone is not a smartphone but a feature phone remarkable solely for its touch-sensitive display.
Enterprise, multimedia, fashion, something else?

Having figured out that the iPhone is a mere feature phone, let’s take a glance at its positioning, and find out who can buy this product. Narrowing down to a certain audience, this would be people already familiar with Apple’s solutions and with some experience of managing them under their belts. Then, the consumers bent on cutting-edge technologies, in other words – enthusiast. For them, this solution is a fount of various sweet bonuses. Also, there is a big group of consumers who never had a clue what this was all about, but gave in to the craze. So, in order to learn what this device can offer specific audiences, we are now looking at it through the lenses of its specifications.

Enterprise. The iPhone has no spirit of an enterprise solution. Basically, the definition of a business handset today is very obscure, the market is polarized, but we can specify some characteristic segments and generic features. Technology-savvy companies with developed IT-departments sit on the top – they supply their employees with smartphones and communicators, extracting the benefits they bring.

What are the strong sides of these solutions? For most it would be email that can keep anyone occupied during a trip. For example, in the US market, it is email that allows BlackBerry devices, as well as a number of Windows Mobile products to breathe. These days many companies actively employ MS Exchange ActiveSync, Push Mail, which enable instant delivery of email to connected units – as if it was an SMS that gets to the recipient a few seconds after sending. We even overlook other aspects, since these basics are pretty much enough already. You can also throw here the ability to view headlines of letters on a server, selective upload and other amenities for good measure.

Ability to view and edit MS Office attachments and also Adobe Acrobat (iPhone allows viewing only, no options for saving them either). Moreover, such devices usually get enterprise data bases installed, which contain contacts, valuable information, custom applications, so that the user can always get access to the data he needs. This automatically means that a notebook at hand becomes pretty much useless, all goods are already on the handset.

Remote management of smartphones (both WM and Symbian) – this is one of the top-priority fields. This system implies that an administrator, should you have your device stolen or lost, can lock your SIM-card, but that’s not all, he can also wipe the device’s memory. In a similar way, he can update firmware versions over the air on thousands of units, utilized by the company, add new features, and upload new data or applications. It might sound like a fairy tale, but it is already here and similar systems are widely adopted.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to guess that iPhone has none of these amenities (not even close) – just an abysmal email client that allows you only to view documents, that’s about it. The maker has also taken care of user’s files that can’t be carried on the device and sent via email, the device simply has a different idea behind it.

Less advanced companies also worth a few words – these prefer buying feature phones for their employees, since the latter need reliable communications alone, rather than bells and whistles. And a different logic kicks in here. First, this device should boast a good brand (iPhone – a great brand), second, feature fair price/quality ratio, and be easy in use and service (that’s where the iPhone falls flat).

That is, if a manager faces the dilemma of going for either the Nokia 6233 for 1 USD on a 2-year contract, or the iPhone for 499 USD signed for 2 years as well, what his choice will be? I suppose the answer is obvious and need no further comments.

An important conclusion we can make right now – the iPhone is a personal device and by no means a business-aimed solution; enterprise users will never accept it. So it turns out, the companies that can shell out for the iPhone, won’t do it, since it doesn’t have the goods, while smaller companies will overlook this nifty, hyped and hence pricey device in their pursuit of price/brand ratio.

Multimedia. Apple is famous for its MP3-players, this is actually its second prioritized field, after computers. So seemingly it comes up with a multimedia-ready device, which is the iPhone. But is it so?

Thankfully, or, maybe, regrettably, a few years ago Nokia established NSeries, a range comprising multimedia-heavy products that were called not feature phones or even smartphones, but multimedia computers. The multimedia department of these solutions kept getting underscored on every occasion (suitable or not). What the market recognizes as a multimedia-driven device today?

Probably, the following characteristics matter the most:
Ability to play music;
Radio;
Video playback;
Ability to make and edit own video clips;
Bundled camera, image editor, special effects;
Games;

What of the above does the iPhone deliver? Well, no games are available, and for want of hardware keys, there won’t be a wide array of them. Therefore, the iPhone is not about gaming, no matter how you look at it (hence a great many of younger people are put off).

There is a camera in this device, but it has no settings, or allows you to make any use of the snaps (no stock editor, one and the same wallpaper all the time), no video recording capabilities. In this sense the iPhone is quite meager. While Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Samsung and Motorola enable direct PC connection over Bluetooth, USB for printing, you won’t find this feature in the iPhone. The thing it banks on is slide-show, but other makers have it as well. Missing memory card slot and USB Mass Storage mode will never allow you to copy snaps onto other devices. However, it is not a big deal, since the low-end camera module found in the iPhone won’t provoke any strong desire for printing out photos in view of their very mediocre quality.

With its player Apple has proven that FM-radiо onboard does not guarantee success. That’s why everything the whole mobile industry has been striving to get to over all these years is now ignored. Today the guideline on the mobile phone market is really, really simple – tack on radio onto as many devise as you can. And the companies follow it, be it with or without RDS, radio modules can be encountered even in entry-level solutions. In its turn, the iPhone with its own concept comes in to oppose the market’s principle.

The music department is supposed to be the iPhone’s edge – something should be backing up its image of 6th generation of iPod with integrated phone. There is much truth to this wording, in this sense it is indeed a music-heavy product. But when it’s put face to face with Walkman or XpressMusic handsets, it turns out to be lagging on a lot of things.

It is just about time for anger and tension to grow, because once again we encroach on the very fundamental things – the iPod along with other Apple’s music-minded products are associated with great sonic experience, etc. etc. But this is a mere myth, skillfully maintained by the company itself. In fact, the Apple’s players utilize technologies of 2003-2004 and are lagging far behind the market with their average sound quality. Before iPod Video many complained about outside noises during music playback, these were caused by nothing but the player’s hardware. The company has always been into selling the aura, design of its products, rather than technological talents or cutting-edge hardware solutions. And eventually, this played a nasty trick on its iPhone. “Why?” – I hear you ask. Simple, all today’s mobile phones come in with much richer retail package:
Remote control – none available for the iPhone;
Ability to plug in any 3,5 mm compatible headphones without adapters (jack mounted on a headset or the device itself). The iPhone actually retains one, but it was intentionally recessed, so as to prevent the users from connecting custom earphones and force them to buy new from the company – a very limited choice, mediocre quality (especially true for the default headphones), well, no good;
A2DP Bluetooth profile – the iPhone just doesn’t have this profile, meaning that wires are your only option;
Direct music uploads – the iPhone doesn’t deliver this feature, you are down to iTunes, which requires synchronization every time;
Getting music from friends over Bluetooth – disabled in the iPhone;
Stereo-speakers to share favorite tunes – none in the iPhone;
Dedicated music keys on the casing – the iPhone comes with its touch-screen alone, have to call it to life all the time.

And this is only a short list. The iPhone does retain the basic functionality (playlists, filters), a handful of visual amenities (album art), but omits loads of extras that shape up the final impression. In other words, with this convergent device, the only thing the company has done is replication of its previous offerings without any further enhancements. For example, Nokia, Sony Ericcson allow the users to control playback by shaking the phone, the Walkman range calls it SensMe, which picks tunes to match the mood of the song you originally chose. We could go on and on with all these details. And all this takes place against the backdrop of a very though competition in sound quality between the iPhone and some flagship solutions. I don’t want to delve deep into this right now – it will be highlighted later anyway. However, it is important to understand that Apple sticks with its policy in this field – basic implementation of the music department with quite good, yet nothing-to-shout-about sound quality (lags behind the contemporary players, for example the Sony A800), skimpy suite of extras.

Of the six constituents listed above, technically, the iPhone offers three, and one of them is obviously inferior to the competition. It turns out that by contemporary standards, this product cannot qualify as a multimedia-ready solution. I wouldn’t mind if someone called it this way (which is closer to the reality): iPod Video with a phone module chucked into it.
Fashion and nothing else

What characterizes all fashion-savvy solutions? A good, recognized brand (the iPhone has it), quaint design (in stock), top-notch materials (got’em), relatively hefty price tag (obviously). Meanwhile, the maker can provide only the core functionality with no bells and whistles – fashion-conscious users put it very low on their lists, they rather need a thing grabbing everyone’s eyes and displaying their status. The success of the Nokia 8800 and all of its variations results from the abovementioned factors.

So, the iPhone is a real fashion phone? Exactly, it is the only class it belongs to.

This means the iPhone’s direct rival can by, say, the LG Prada. By the way, these two solutions are very resembling philosophy-wise and in the sense of some technologies used.

Finally, we have figured out what kind of phone it is, and come to realize that it is neither an enterprise solution nor a multimedia-heavy device. Apple has made a bold move by shutting itself away from the segment of premium MP3-players, which have already become its signature, and slipped into the lower price-bracket. Its top of the line solutions are replaced by the iPhone, which can be dragged along as a second or even third phone, allowing you to brag about your status and lots of cash. That’s why there are no price cuts for the phone, which would’ve made it too affordable (even more than it is today, which wasn’t on Apple’s to-do list).

The hype around the product lets it reach the main goal – make its owner the talk of the town for some time. This is what characterizes every fashion-savvy solution.

The path they have picked is quite good, especially for the US market, where it will be rivaled only by Nokia, which is relatively weak on this market. That is, there no competition with the fashion-savvy Nokia 8800 in its American iteration, while the Nokia N95’s sells well, but nothing outstanding about it. With an army of the iPod owners behind its back and player replacement dates on the near-horizon for many users, the company has made all the right moves and offered a product that made the market go crazy. However the figures they give us are a tad shady, since about 25 percent of all sales were generated by profiteers, who wanted to gain something from the fuss around the iPhone. Well, they failed. But that’s what we are going to focus on in the articles to come.

 

Eldar Murtazin (eldar@mobile-review.com)
Translated by Oleg Kononosov (oleg.kononosov@mobile-review.com)

Published — 27 July 2007   

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iPhone Review from Phone Scoop
http://www.youtube.com/v/vp1T5HI4Zrc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vp1T5HI4Zrc




Here´s just a couple of phones that kill Iphone
I´m sure HTC,Samsung and Motorola got a couple too.


SonyEricsson P1
(http://gizmologia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/sonyericsson-p1.jpg)
Technical specifications;
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip3&zone=pp&pid=10864
Sony Ericsson P1 Review
http://www.youtube.com/v/Y6kGfCQaipE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6kGfCQaipE

SonyEricsson K850
(http://tech.reesun.com/mobile/01/uploadfile/200703/20070323110605139.jpg)
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)
Technical specifications;
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip3&zone=pp&pid=10868
Sony Ericsson K850 Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/w_Lz8CHzCt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Lz8CHzCt8


Nokia 95
(http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b141581.jpg)
Technical specifications;
http://europe.nokia.com/A4323297
Nokia N95 Review
http://www.youtube.com/v/DX5eh7eLaVQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX5eh7eLaVQ






dunno about the nokia n95 the battery lasts about a day and a lot of the features are crap. the camera is nice though. the nokia E90 is a bit of a brick but that's a serious piece of kit, every feature you can possibly imagine. any ericcson is bound to be good, great battery life, great music playing facilities, won't break down so easy. the real iphone killer from sony is prolly the w960i, upcoming high end walkman phone. 8 gig internal memory, hi-res cam, great sound quality, high res touch screen etc etc etc. definitely one to look out for as well as that k850i...

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip1&zone=pp&pid=10908

I actually own a N95,had it since it came out.
Yes,the battery sucks,I use two battery´s every >:( day. Thinking about buying myself  :otwo more :o, battery´s so I have four.
Symbian S60 3.1 ain´t stabble either,it crash all the time >:(.
But the specs is amongst the best on the market if not the best at the moment.
What features don´t you like?
Yes,Nokia E90 is a brick,the same can be said about HTC TyTn.
I had SE P990 before I changed to N95. I was not pleased with Symbian UIQ 3.0,shit was mad slow and crashed all the time. I was VERY pleased with my SE P800 and P900 who ran UIQ 2.0,so UIQ 3.0 was a let down :(.
Hope all the bugs is fixed on UIQ 3.1,the SE W960 is dope,but right now I´m tired of Symbian.
The UI is not really user friendly either. I agree with you that SE makes better phone´s and their OS and UI; A100 wich they use on their "normal" phone´s is the best on the market. But right now I miss better specs on their phone´s,I will throw my N95 out the window as soon as SE release a phone with the same specs as N95 or better,hopefully a phone that run´s the A100 OS.




There will be PLENTY of "iPhone Killers" just like there has been "iPod Killers"  8)  ;)

apple is in a league of their own with products they make... people that are calling everything a "iPod/iPhone Killer"  just dont get the simplicity and integration of their products...  thats what keeps people the usability not craming in a million features that are hard or not as enjoyable to use....

im perfectly happy with my iPhone

Nothing wrong with Apple,hell I just bought myself a Mac-Book.
It´s just that Iphone is overhyped and outdated. My old SE P800 from 2000 could almost do everything Iphone does and that says alot.

SE P800;
(http://mobile.findplace.ru/mobile/pics/916_1.jpg)


i was and still am a huge sony ericsson fan but since apple became a cell phone maker i got a new favorite... i love my iphone... but before then i always told everyone to shoot for the sony ericsson ... and i hate Motorola ... hate their operating system

and its not about what your phone "CAN" do but what you "Do" with your phone... half the people that lounge for all these features hardly ever use them... for someone like you that does... then more power to you... but its also huge on how you use it... and who makes it seemless and easy to use while at the same time being functional that will win. and right now im on apples side... but of course im a long time apple fan like everyone here knows.

I feel you on that,I will be the first one to say that alot these OS/UI ain´t user friendly. I hope that Symbian and Windows Mobile will pick up a trick or two from Apple´s Iphone UI. A little competion is only good for the consumer.
Yes,I use all the features,but as you said people hardly use the features. I have to help all my friends set up their phones for e-mail,getting them a proper web-browser (opera mini),set up short cuts etc. and show them how to use their phone´s.
Well Motorola use alot of differnt OS´s on their phone´s. They have their own,wich suck and they have phone´s with Windows mobile and Symbian.
As I said before,I use a Mac-Book(so no hating on Apple),so when Apple or SE(my favorite) release a phone that can match the features of N95 or better,I will throw my phone(N95) out the window.




^^^

yeah well another huge thing for me is integration....

I have a MacBook Pro, iMac, iPhone, iPod and apple accessories... so integration is perfect... and i have no problems with compatibility.

Yeah,my friend got a
QTEK 8300
(http://www.samstores.com/_images/products/qtek_8300_00.jpg)
(http://mobila.uacatalog.com/images/Qtek/8300.jpg)
Qtek 8300 smartphone review
http://www.youtube.com/v/SOLLuQEaDMs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOLLuQEaDMs
http://www.htc.com.pt/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=99&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=44&lang=en
The first EDGE and WiFi smartphone with Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Edition is here! With Qtek 8310, you are not getting just a phone. You can stay in touch with friends or colleagues through Pocket MSN, send and receive emails through Microsoft Pocket Outlook, or listen to music or watch movies with Microsoft Media Player. This is also your perfect device for SIP VoIP solution. With the smooth black finishing, Qtek 8310 lets you work and play in style.
TI OMAP 850, 200 Mhz
Windows Mobile 5.0
64 MB ROM + 64 MB SDRAM
Mini SD card
1.3 mp camera
Bluetooth (version 1.1)
IrDA
Wifi

The phone already 2-3 years old,but damn there´s still no other small phone on the market with WiFi.
Well,back to the point. Integration,he got the phone pluged via usb to his lap-top all the time,so everything sync automaticly in the background,contacts,calender,mail,notes etc. It even charges the phone while you work.
Should be interesting to see if Windows mobile and Apple OS will take over the cell phone market in the long run.
Maybe we will see Windows and/or Apple OS on future Nokia and SonyEricsson phones?

QTEK/HTC got a couple of other dope phones;
HTC Touch
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/htc/htc-touch/htc-touch.jpg)
HTC Touch and Iphone
(http://www.wmexperts.com/articleimages/P1010375-1.jpg)
http://www.htc.com.pt/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=187&option=com_phpshop&Itemid=44&lang=en
HTC Touch™ is deceptively small and stylish mobile phone that ushers in an innovative new concept in intuitive touch screen navigation. The HTC Touch™ brings a new level of simplicity to the powerful and function-rich device experience that today's mobile consumers demand. Building on its rich ten year history of mobile phone innovations, the HTC Touch™ represents extensive research and development and the conviction that fingertip control will enable more efficient, natural and intuitive touch screen navigation. The groundbreaking HTC Touch™ offers a new and unique way of controlling touch screen-based devices by recognising and responding to the sweep of a finger across the screen. It is even intelligent enough to distinguish between finger and stylus input and then respond accordingly.

HTC Touch Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/Gj8PMcvYTZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj8PMcvYTZo


TI OMAP a 201 MHz
GSM, GPRS
128 MB ROM + 64 MB SDRAM
MicroSD Card
2 mpx camera
Bluetooth v 2.0
WiFi: 802.11b/g (11Mbps)
TouchFLO™


HTC P4550
(http://www.phonearea.net/wp-content/themes/default/pictures/htc/2007/herald_htc_p4550.jpg)
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_P4550.html
•   Operating System: Windows Mobile 6 Professional
•   Processor: 400MHz
•   Memory: 128MB RAM, 256MB ROM
•   Screen: 2.8" QVGA touch screen
•   Quad-band GSM/GPRS
•   UMTS, HSDPA wireless data connectivity
•   WiFi-enabled
•   Bluetooth 2.0
•   3 MegaPixel Camera with Auto Focus
•   Integrated GPS
•   Secondary VGA camera for video telephony
•   Rechargeable, removable battery
•   microSD card slot
•   Full QWERTY keyboard
•   Dimensions: 110mm x 58mm x 18mm

Dimensions:   58 x 110 x 18 millimetres
Mass:   160 grams (battery included)
Software Environment
Operating System:   Windows Mobile 6 Professional
Microprocessor
CPU:   32bit Samsung SC32442
CPU Clock:   400 MHz
Memory, Storage capacity
ROM capacity:   256 MB
RAM capacity:   64 MB
Display
Display Type:   color transflective TFT , 65536 scales
Display Resolution:   240 x 320
Display Diagonal:   2.8 "
Sound
Microphone:   mono
Speaker:   mono
Audio Output:   Proprietary jack
Cellular Phone
Cellular Networks:   GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS800, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Cellular Data Standards:   CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Call Alert:   72 -chord melody
Vibrating Alert:   Supported
Control Peripherals
Positioning Device:   Touchscreen
Keyboard:   Slide-out QWERTY-type keyboard, 41 keys
Directional Pad:   5 -way block
Jog / Scroll Wheel:   Pressable rotary scroll wheel
Interfaces
Expansion Slots:   SDIO, microSD, TransFlash
Serial:   RS-232 , 115200bit/s
USB:   USB 2.0 client, 60Mbit/s , USB Series Mini-B (mini-USB) connector
Bluetooth:   Bluetooth 2.0
Wireless LAN:   802.11b, 802.11g
Satellite Navigation
Built-in GPS:   NMEA 0183
Built-in Digital Camera
Main Camera:   CMOS sensor, 2.8MP
Autofocus (AF):   Supported
Built-in Flash:   Mobile light (LED)
Secondary Camera:   CMOS sensor, 640x480 pixel
Power Supply
Battery:   Lithium-ion , removable
Battery Capacity:   1500 mAh



that htc p4550 looks to be THE device for me, especially as my ebay purchased bluetooth gps reciever that i use with my windows phone + tom tom is a pile of crap that never works. gonna pick one up, is launching as the vodafone v1615 on vodafone so i should be able to get one through work somehow ;]

It´s a dope phone,here´s a video review
HTC P4550 (Kaiser) Demonstration by eXpansys
http://www.youtube.com/v/P41hoK-jX3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41hoK-jX3I


How to get MSN on your cell phone
http://www.youtube.com/v/GDFYLvPBXpc&autoplay=0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDFYLvPBXpc



If you like Motorola phones you better check Z8 out,it runs Symbian UIQ 3.1. :firedevil:
Motorola MOTORIZR Z8
(http://www.tranism.com/weblog/images/motorolaz8_01.jpg)
motorola Z8: short preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/GUJSYz72C0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUJSYz72C0A
Review of GSM/UMTS-smartphone Motorola Z8
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-z8-en.shtml









that htc p4550 looks to be THE device for me, especially as my ebay purchased bluetooth gps reciever that i use with my windows phone + tom tom is a pile of crap that never works. gonna pick one up, is launching as the vodafone v1615 on vodafone so i should be able to get one through work somehow ;]


what? did you say Matty that Tom Tom doesn´t work? hmmmm,I tought that was the shit. I went by a cell phone store and looked at SE P1,i saw that they had included Wayfinder GPS in the package. I also looked at the HTC Touch phone,shit looks nice.
As you already probably know the GPS on N95 sucks,I never use it. I use it for fun sometimes,but right now I´m looking for a new phone,N95 sucks. SE T650 looks nice,so do those HTC joints.



















it's full alright it got all the feature except the photo  8)

the new mig33 beta got photo,I will check your´s out. I cocking some food while writing this,that´why I can´t do it all at the same time,but as far as I know the agile client is the best(got free trial).
I will find the chinese/russian link for you all in a minute,never tried myself,,,,, so it will be a "hook up" for myself....



nice i didnt know that mig33 had the photo,ima def go check this out when you'll be able to post the link +1 already for ya! props

should be wap.mig33.com straight from your phone or www.mig33.com .
I can´t find the other client from china/russia,maybe Matty can find the link?




But vodaphone don't "brand"  WM phones do they?
I hate "branded" phones,I know they "brand" Symbian phones,but...
Have you tried the "touch ui"?





i haven't i might go next door to the orange store and test one out as they have it. read the touch screen is real nice but i don't like the idea of no keyboard after getting used to my qtek. yeah vodafone brand their devices - the qtek i got direct from voda wasn't actually branded at all though ;] but its follow up, the TyTN, was the v1605. just meant it had 'Vodafone' plastered on it, i don't think they screwed around with the software and general functionality on there too much, not too sure... it does always mean its customised to all of the networks specific services though and if your using it on the same network (which i will be) then things couldn't be easier.

however my qtek did come preloaded with msn messenger and the v1605 didn't have it on there, so maybe they removed that? if there's isn't the new pocket live messenger on the v1615 im gonna be pissed. there isn't a live messenger on the current wm6 device we do - the v1415 (HTC S710) but i don't think that's supposed to be on there anyway, being a standard edition of WM6...not too sure there...

oh and the motorola Z8 isn't really doing very well. people don't know to use the interface but i played it with a lot it is a cool phone with the powerful OS and everything. consumers just don't like it and not many business users seem to be clocked onto its functionality...and the battery life is HORRIBLE, maybe worse than the N95 :0

samsung G600 is also launching this week, got the dummy models in yesterday. a nice small slider, not too slim though with a 5mp camera and samsung have at last dropped the touch sensitive crap on this one too. gonna be their main push for the holiday season and looks to be really nice. i think samsung maybe have the easiest UI for normal phone funtionality of all the manufacturers...






As far as I know,samsung licence a gang of OS/UI's they use both s40&a100 on their "dum" phones&symbian&wm on their"smart"phone's,I played with HTC S710 for a minute,but didn't really get a full look on the new OS(wm6),I had your phone qtek 9100 for test a couple of weeks,but u know it takes time to set everything up like u wan't it,short cuts,e-mail,applications etc. I actually don't like the keyboard,so I use the touch screen.
So z8 battery suck,damn? I figured the new Symbian UIQ 3.1 was improved(more user friendly)



nice i didnt know that mig33 had the photo

here's a link to the best IM,I've tried www.agilemessenger.com . It's not free,maybe Matty Know about a free link?
...& there's a cracked MSN client for symbian from an russian/chinese site,maybe Matty got the link for this too.
cell phone applications;
www.getjar.com
web browser;
www.mini.opera.com/app
















I got a SLVR L7 and it > iphone. It does everything yours does for a hella big fraction of the price.

Next phone i'll be getting is either a SLVR L9

(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/motorola/motorola-slvr-l9/motorola-slvr-l9-combo.jpg)

or the RAZR2

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/razr2-big.jpg)

I'm leaning towards the SLVR L9 because it's cheaper.





Bundy you should go for Z8 if it HAVE to be a motorola,it runs Symbian UIQ 3.1 a powerfull OS,Matty says the battery sucks,but hey get a extra battery.
(http://www.internetnews.com/img/2007/05/motorola_z8.jpg)
motorola Z8: short preview video;
http://www.youtube.com/v/GUJSYz72C0A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUJSYz72C0A
Review of GSM/UMTS-smartphone Motorola Z8
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-z8-en.shtml


bundy you should go for z8 if it HAVE to be a motorola,it runs Symbian UIQ 3.1 a powerfull OS,Matty says the battery sucks,but hey get a extra battery.
you can see a preview video in the previous post and find a nice review for it over at www.mobile-review.com


you mean that huge ass phone? the RAZR2 runs linux btw.

(http://blog.aggeman.se/razr2.jpg)



Big? What? Ain't it about the same size as the Razr's?
If you want to add applications and make your phone personal that's the one,it runs symbian UIQ 3.1 a POWERFULL OS.
There's mad applications for Symbian not only simple java applications.
BTW didn´t know that RAZR2 run Linux,can you you install 3rd party software or only simple Java applications?









...and E.J Rizo,SE had bluetooth on their phone´s since R520/T39.
R520
(http://www.newworldtelnet.com/r520mb.gif)
T39
(http://www.cellinkgy.com/images/ericsson_t39.gif)
WAP? Just download www.mini.opera.com/app or www.opera.com if u have a phone with Symbian or Window Mobile.
Small screen rendering,best application for a cell ever.
By the way,there´s already a build in Web browser (not WAP) in Smart phones and in most of the phones that run Symbian Opera is already installed from the get go,and as you probably know most of the SE smart phones that run UIQ got a Touch screen(since 2000). Opera Mini is a simple java application meant for "dum/simple" phones,but Opera Mini is so good that I recomend to ANY phone "smart" or "dum",simply the best web browser out.
Then again why argue,E.J Rizo has made it CLEAR that integration is important for him (read his comments above) and while the iphone don't have the "greatest and latest" features,the UI seems to be more user friendly than the rest.
So it's a give & take situation








Taken from the OG Iphone thread;
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=147341.25




Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 04, 2007, 01:52:19 PM
Surfing on the mobilephone is so lame..
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 04, 2007, 01:55:42 PM
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)
k850i
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 04, 2007, 02:13:58 PM
Surfing on the mobilephone is so lame..
Sony Ericsson K850
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)

Have you tried www.mini.opera.com/app ?
Most of time I´m on here I use a cell,loving it.

Yeah, I've tried that opera. Didn't like it all
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 04, 2007, 02:41:06 PM
Surfing on the mobilephone is so lame..
Sony Ericsson K850
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)

Have you tried www.mini.opera.com/app ?
Most of time I´m on here I use a cell,loving it.



Yeah, I've tried that opera. Didn't like it all



Ok,can´t please everyone,he,he. I guess I´m lame,ha,ha
But at least you gave it a try.
I believe SE K850 is coming next month.
Sony Ericsson K850 Preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Lz8CHzCt8
SE just dropped T650 Shit is nice!!!!!!
(http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/May2007/T650.jpg)
Sony Ericsson T650 Demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APaNg8ZMPyc

Lol, hehe. Was j/k bout that, but I don't have the need to be online at anytime. When I'm on the Internet, I got my comp.
that k850i looks more smooth than T650. The K-series have always been my fave.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 04, 2007, 03:42:29 PM
^lol yeah, i haven't really thought about that joystick.. LEt's see when it drops
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Money on September 04, 2007, 05:29:34 PM
someone gave me an iphone for a week. shit was lame. true story.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Cheese on September 05, 2007, 06:06:27 AM
piffy! I got this one

(http://pan.fotovista.com/dev/7/3/00037837/g_00037837.jpg)

I bet the iphone is overrated as fuck
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 05, 2007, 11:39:55 AM
Surfing on the mobilephone is so lame..
Sony Ericsson K850
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)

Have you tried www.mini.opera.com/app ?
Most of time I´m on here I use a cell,loving it.



Yeah, I've tried that opera. Didn't like it all



Ok,can´t please everyone,he,he. I guess I´m lame,ha,ha
But at least you gave it a try.
I believe SE K850 is coming next month.
Sony Ericsson K850 Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/w_Lz8CHzCt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Lz8CHzCt8
SE just dropped T650 Shit is nice!!!!!!
(http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/May2007/T650.jpg)
Sony Ericsson T650 Demo
http://www.youtube.com/v/APaNg8ZMPyc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APaNg8ZMPyc

Lol, hehe. Was j/k bout that, but I don't have the need to be online at anytime. When I'm on the Internet, I got my comp.
that k850i looks more smooth than T650. The K-series have always been my fave.

Yeah,but what´s up with the joy stick on K850? Remember when Nokia did all those strange designs on their phone´s?
Nokia 3650
(http://nds2.photos.nokia.com/EUROPE_NOKIA_COM_3/r2/press/photo/phones/jpeg/3650_lores_01.jpg)
Nokia 7600
(http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Sept2003/Nokia7600.jpg)
Nokia 7500
(http://www.fonebiz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nokia-7500.jpg)
Nokia ?? shit look wak anyways
(http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/02_7380_7w_lowres.jpg)
You get the picture,what the fuck was Nokia thinking? Some dudes might find those designs cool,but they ain´t user friendly
I mean is it user friendly? Shit look strange.
The Joystick;
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/k850_3.jpg)
Here´s a review;
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k850-en.shtml

^lol yeah, i haven't really thought about that joystick.. LEt's see when it drops




....and for more positive news Sony Ericsson will release a playstation phone
PlayStation – a SE phone by the Christmas?
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#15521
Peter Ahnegard, head of SE game unit, reported that the company will release a game handset under PlayStation brand by the Christmas. However he sounded vague whether it would be this Christmas. Sony Ericsson has already launched Walkman music phones, Cyber-shot camera phones and Bravia TV-phones for Japan. Only game phones are still missing. That is why it is very likely the company will focus soon on this direction. Nevertheless the company’s spokesman declined to provide detailed info. A would-be PlayStation phone might look this way.
(http://www.konsolkoll.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/psp-phone-patent-1-716-90.jpg)










^thats my shit!!





ima get this soon though... gettin tired of that brick...

(http://www.sonyericsson.com/images/spgd/GPD_44776_28_0_4000.png)

eS-Jay you should read this before you get that phone,not sure if it´s same they´re writing about SE S500i?
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The situation with the Sony Ericsson S500i buttons had been hard to foresee - it was just recently when we learned that the green paint reacted with the adhesive used for sticking the buttons onto the casing. This way, because of the chemical reaction the base of the keys simply dissolved. At the same time, the yellow edition is free of such defects
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/brak-in-phones-en.shtml
There´s a couple of Nokia´s you should stay away from too,go to the link to see which models.



....and for you E.J Rizo they bash Iphone again(now I think they´re a little biased,because I know by experince with Symbian/WM/S40 and A100 that he takes it a little to far;
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-sms-en.shtml








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This is a new Sony PS3 mobile phone...that plays Nintendo's Super Mario Bros...and which uses Microsoft's PS3 operating system - no, wait, that's not right. Hang on it's made in Koera - where the hell's Koera?!
(http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/1079-4654cff28b29d.jpg)
Yes, what we have here is the mother of all clone phones. It's a Chinese phone (naturally!), and its makers have decided that imitation is most definitely the sincerest form of flattery. As such, they've named it the Amycoll PS3 phone, which, er, "flatters" both Samsung, with its Korean Anycall brand, and also Sony, with its PS3. They've even added PlayStation buttons on the keypad, just for good measure!

Loads more pictures of the funniest mobile phone yet created, after the jump!

The copying fun doesn't end there, though. As Babelfish's translation calls it, the "Chinese evil behind-the-scenes manipulator's machine" has a Microsoft Windows logo that reads "Design for PS3". Didn't realise Microsoft did design for Sony's PS3! Not to worry, its entire Microsoft Windows user interface is faked as well!

As if that wasn't enough, they've even faked the country of origin. Korean phones are legendary for their technical features, so it makes sense to pretend your phone comes from Korea right? Except they couldn't actually spell Korea, so the Amycoll PS3 comes from Koera!

And still the fun continues. Not content with faking operating systems and copying brands and even countries (badly!) the Amycoll PS3 even includes a Nintendo NES, SNES and GameBoy color emulator, so you can play Super Mario Bros on your mobile phone.

Actually, that's a great idea! Playing Mario on a mobile is a killer app, and doing it with PlayStation buttons on a fake Windows Operating System is just so wrong, it feels goooood - almost dirty even!! Pity the phone's so illegal it'll never make it outiside of China (not to mention that the phone itself gets so hot when you play any of its games that you can't actually hold it!).
Another interesting feature is that this phone will play background noise when you make a call, just in case you want to pretend you're somewhere else. So, if you've told your wife you're on a ship somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, when in reality you're down the local pub, the Amycoll PS3 will play the sounds of life aboard an Atlantic-trawling ship while you chat away to her! Really, they've thought of everything!

This phone is hilarious! It's as if a team of teccie fan-boys got together one drunken night and concocted a wish list of all their favourite gadgets that they'd like in a mobile phone - then the next day, thought "what a great idea" and bodged just such a Frankenstein phone together, while singing "patents? trademarks? law-suits - pah! We spit on you all!"

Then, when they'd finished, their marketing department thought "what this phone really needs is some great sounding brand names - whose can we pinch?!"

Genius!


WOW,check this phone out,it got it all,ha,ha.
For more photos and details;
http://mobilementalism.com/2007/05/24/amycoll-ps3-phone-plays-mario-on-a-fake-windows-ui/
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Sickaluffa on September 05, 2007, 11:43:43 AM
lots of cool phones
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 05, 2007, 11:54:34 AM
^thats my shit!!





ima get this soon though... gettin tired of that brick...

(http://www.sonyericsson.com/images/spgd/GPD_44776_28_0_4000.png)

No diss, but I've always hated those orange features on SE
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 05, 2007, 12:02:18 PM
lots of cool phones

Damn right,want to change my phone now lol but im still verry happy with my nokia n73
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 05, 2007, 12:07:05 PM
Quote
This is a new Sony PS3 mobile phone...that plays Nintendo's Super Mario Bros...and which uses Microsoft's PS3 operating system - no, wait, that's not right. Hang on it's made in Koera - where the hell's Koera?!
(http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/1079-4654cff28b29d.jpg)
Yes, what we have here is the mother of all clone phones. It's a Chinese phone (naturally!), and its makers have decided that imitation is most definitely the sincerest form of flattery. As such, they've named it the Amycoll PS3 phone, which, er, "flatters" both Samsung, with its Korean Anycall brand, and also Sony, with its PS3. They've even added PlayStation buttons on the keypad, just for good measure!

Loads more pictures of the funniest mobile phone yet created, after the jump!

The copying fun doesn't end there, though. As Babelfish's translation calls it, the "Chinese evil behind-the-scenes manipulator's machine" has a Microsoft Windows logo that reads "Design for PS3". Didn't realise Microsoft did design for Sony's PS3! Not to worry, its entire Microsoft Windows user interface is faked as well!

As if that wasn't enough, they've even faked the country of origin. Korean phones are legendary for their technical features, so it makes sense to pretend your phone comes from Korea right? Except they couldn't actually spell Korea, so the Amycoll PS3 comes from Koera!

And still the fun continues. Not content with faking operating systems and copying brands and even countries (badly!) the Amycoll PS3 even includes a Nintendo NES, SNES and GameBoy color emulator, so you can play Super Mario Bros on your mobile phone.

Actually, that's a great idea! Playing Mario on a mobile is a killer app, and doing it with PlayStation buttons on a fake Windows Operating System is just so wrong, it feels goooood - almost dirty even!! Pity the phone's so illegal it'll never make it outiside of China (not to mention that the phone itself gets so hot when you play any of its games that you can't actually hold it!).
Another interesting feature is that this phone will play background noise when you make a call, just in case you want to pretend you're somewhere else. So, if you've told your wife you're on a ship somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, when in reality you're down the local pub, the Amycoll PS3 will play the sounds of life aboard an Atlantic-trawling ship while you chat away to her! Really, they've thought of everything!

This phone is hilarious! It's as if a team of teccie fan-boys got together one drunken night and concocted a wish list of all their favourite gadgets that they'd like in a mobile phone - then the next day, thought "what a great idea" and bodged just such a Frankenstein phone together, while singing "patents? trademarks? law-suits - pah! We spit on you all!"

Then, when they'd finished, their marketing department thought "what this phone really needs is some great sounding brand names - whose can we pinch?!"

Genius!


WOW,check this phone out,it got it all,ha,ha.
For more photos and details;
http://mobilementalism.com/2007/05/24/amycoll-ps3-phone-plays-mario-on-a-fake-windows-ui/

LMAO +1 the phone looks crappy as hell lol those damn chineese!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Sickaluffa on September 05, 2007, 12:21:32 PM
at the end of the day i think of it was its a phone and its to talk to people and thats it
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 05, 2007, 12:22:37 PM
^LOL@phones being for talking.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Sickaluffa on September 05, 2007, 12:32:20 PM
lol ya  there like PC and shit now and ipods and crap i wonder like from 5 years what they will do sooner or later there just Guenna put them in when your born  ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on September 05, 2007, 01:07:47 PM
America are so behind with mobile phones. Japan and korea comes first then Europe is second.
   The iphone isn't even getting sold in asia because already there are phones that can beat it. Like a samsung phone with a 10mega pixel camera and stream live tv etc...

Atleast in europe we have HSPDA. I don't see that on 99% of the mobiles in America.

The iphone died before it was even released. Just wait for the f700. That'll shit all over the iphone.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 05, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
America are so behind with mobile phones. Japan and korea comes first then Europe is second.
   The iphone isn't even getting sold in asia because already there are phones that can beat it. Like a samsung phone with a 10mega pixel camera and stream live tv etc...

Atleast in europe we have HSPDA. I don't see that on 99% of the mobiles in America.

The iphone died before it was even released. Just wait for the f700. That'll shit all over the iphone.

damn a phone with a 10 megapixel camera,this is just insane!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 05, 2007, 01:25:09 PM
America are so behind with mobile phones. Japan and korea comes first then Europe is second.
   The iphone isn't even getting sold in asia because already there are phones that can beat it. Like a samsung phone with a 10mega pixel camera and stream live tv etc...

Atleast in europe we have HSPDA. I don't see that on 99% of the mobiles in America.

The iphone died before it was even released. Just wait for the f700. That'll shit all over the iphone.

Yeah the only phone i've seen with HSPDA is the ATT version of motorolas RAZR2
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 05, 2007, 01:30:15 PM
HTC P4550 is dope as fuck! price?  ???
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 05, 2007, 01:34:44 PM
HTC P4550 is dope as fuck! price?  ???


Quote
HTC P4550 Kaiser Unlocked GSM PDA HTC TyTN II - Popular ElectronicsHTC P4550 Kaiser Unlocked Quad Band GSM PDA Cell Phone, HTC P4550 Kaiser ... Item #: P4550 Kaiser. Price: $798.99. Availability: Monday 10 September, 2007 ...
www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437


800$ shit!

props for the info +1
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 05, 2007, 01:54:03 PM
That samsung F700 looks so dope.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 05, 2007, 03:08:46 PM
for those of you interested apple dropped the price to $399 on the 8gb iPhone...

and yes im fuckin PISSED!  >:(

i was a $200 Beta Tester...



rant over...

i still love my iphone... just should have waited 2 months

apple screwed over the early adopters...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 05, 2007, 03:23:25 PM
^ Whut?!
iPhone without 3G?!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 05, 2007, 03:36:00 PM
^ Whut?!
iPhone without 3G?!

Didn´t you know?
I posted the specs for Iphone in one of the above threads.


Nah, I guess I didn't read it all lol..

Anyway, that's straight up wack
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 05, 2007, 03:43:42 PM
^ Whut?!
iPhone without 3G?!

Didn´t you know?
I posted the specs for Iphone in one of the above threads.


Nah, I guess I didn't read it all lol..

Anyway, that's straight up wack
do you even live in a an area with 3G service?

likely that if you are in the states thats a no... so thats the reasoning behind it besides extending battery life
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 05, 2007, 04:08:03 PM
for those of you interested apple dropped the price to $399 on the 8gb iPhone...

and yes im fuckin PISSED!  >:(

i was a $200 Beta Tester...



rant over...

i still love my iphone... just should have waited 2 months

apple screwed over the early adopters...

oh shit iphone for 399? i might just pick one up then!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: es-jay on September 05, 2007, 05:01:48 PM
RAIDe the phone i posted was the W580i, it has just come out over here. currently on o2 and orange. however, the orange version aint available yet so i cant upgrade my contract... walkman>>>>>ipod!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 05, 2007, 05:15:18 PM
America are so behind with mobile phones. Japan and korea comes first then Europe is second.
   The iphone isn't even getting sold in asia because already there are phones that can beat it. Like a samsung phone with a 10mega pixel camera and stream live tv etc...

Atleast in europe we have HSPDA. I don't see that on 99% of the mobiles in America.

The iphone died before it was even released. Just wait for the f700. That'll shit all over the iphone.

CORRECTION; 5 Mega Pixels
Quote
Samsung F700
http://www.youtube.com/v/B_283G1vuKk
(http://www.mobilmagazine.com/ArticlePages/200707/12/20070712141533_MOB093/Samsung_F700_s.jpg)
                                            Apple iPhone                                       Samsung F700
Screen Resolution       480x320 at 3.5-inches                               440x240 at 2.78-inches
Touchscreen               Yes, With Multitouch                                Yes, With Drag and Drop
Connectivity   Quad-Band GSM,EDGE,802.11b/g,Bluetooth 2.0        Tri-band GSM, HSDPA, EDGE
Camera                        2-megapixel                                        5-megapixel with Auto-Focus
Keyboard                 Touchscreen/onscreen                              Slide-out qwerty with VibeTonz
Email                                 HTML Email                                     Unknkown (probably not HTML)
Browser                   Full HTML Browser                                     Full HTML Browser
Codec Support     Standard iPod Support                  MPEG4, H.263, H.264, Real MP3, AAC+, eAAC+, Real
Storage                        4-8GB                                  Unknown onboard + microSD expansion


So it seems like although Samsung's F700 has more megapixels, a little bit more format support, an actual keyboard, and 3G connectivity, the iPhone has it beat on screen size/resolution, HTML Email, storage, widgets, google maps, and push email. Plus, of course, the whole built-in iPod thing.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellphones/apple-iphone-vs-samsung-f700-which-is-touchscreenier-235112.php


Forget that Samsung,HTC P4550 is the one if you want a phone like that

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HTC P4550
(http://www.phonearea.net/wp-content/themes/default/pictures/htc/2007/herald_htc_p4550.jpg)
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/PDA/HTC/HTC_P4550.html
•   Operating System: Windows Mobile 6 Professional
•   Processor: 400MHz
•   Memory: 128MB RAM, 256MB ROM
•   Screen: 2.8" QVGA touch screen
•   Quad-band GSM/GPRS
•   UMTS, HSDPA wireless data connectivity
•   WiFi-enabled
•   Bluetooth 2.0
•   3 MegaPixel Camera with Auto Focus
•   Integrated GPS
•   Secondary VGA camera for video telephony
•   Rechargeable, removable battery
•   microSD card slot
•   Full QWERTY keyboard
•   Dimensions: 110mm x 58mm x 18mm

Dimensions:   58 x 110 x 18 millimetres
Mass:   160 grams (battery included)
Software Environment
Operating System:   Windows Mobile 6 Professional
Microprocessor
CPU:   32bit Samsung SC32442
CPU Clock:   400 MHz
Memory, Storage capacity
ROM capacity:   256 MB
RAM capacity:   64 MB
Display
Display Type:   color transflective TFT , 65536 scales
Display Resolution:   240 x 320
Display Diagonal:   2.8 "
Sound
Microphone:   mono
Speaker:   mono
Audio Output:   Proprietary jack
Cellular Phone
Cellular Networks:   GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS800, UMTS850, UMTS1900, UMTS2100
Cellular Data Standards:   CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA
Call Alert:   72 -chord melody
Vibrating Alert:   Supported
Control Peripherals
Positioning Device:   Touchscreen
Keyboard:   Slide-out QWERTY-type keyboard, 41 keys
Directional Pad:   5 -way block
Jog / Scroll Wheel:   Pressable rotary scroll wheel
Interfaces
Expansion Slots:   SDIO, microSD, TransFlash
Serial:   RS-232 , 115200bit/s
USB:   USB 2.0 client, 60Mbit/s , USB Series Mini-B (mini-USB) connector
Bluetooth:   Bluetooth 2.0
Wireless LAN:   802.11b, 802.11g
Satellite Navigation
Built-in GPS:   NMEA 0183
Built-in Digital Camera
Main Camera:   CMOS sensor, 2.8MP
Autofocus (AF):   Supported
Built-in Flash:   Mobile light (LED)
Secondary Camera:   CMOS sensor, 640x480 pixel
Power Supply
Battery:   Lithium-ion , removable
Battery Capacity:   1500 mAh
HTC P4550 (Kaiser) Demonstration by eXpansys
http://www.youtube.com/v/P41hoK-jX3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41hoK-jX3I









HTC P4550 is dope as fuck! price?  ???


Quote
HTC P4550 Kaiser Unlocked GSM PDA HTC TyTN II - Popular ElectronicsHTC P4550 Kaiser Unlocked Quad Band GSM PDA Cell Phone, HTC P4550 Kaiser ... Item #: P4550 Kaiser. Price: $798.99. Availability: Monday 10 September, 2007 ...
www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?products_id=437


800$ shit!

props for the info +1


Let´s say you get what you pay for,I specified the features that "kill" other phone´s.
Full specs in a Above post.
Quote
Operating System:   Windows Mobile 6 Professional    Powerfull OS with LOTS of 3rd party applications
CPU Clock:   400 MHz   IMPORTANT!!!!! Makes the navigation FAST
Memory, Storage capacity
ROM capacity:   256 MB
RAM capacity:   64 MB
Audio Output:   Proprietary jack   Use your regular headphones,not those fucks that usually comes with phone
Expansion Slots:   SDIO, microSD, TransFlash  Cheap expandable memory cards
Wireless LAN:   802.11b, 802.11g  A MUST!
Satellite Navigation   Dope feature,comes with Tom Tom software in the package
Built-in GPS:   NMEA 0183
Main Camera:   CMOS sensor, 2.8MP You don´t really need any more than this,do you?
Autofocus (AF):   Supported   Important!
Battery Capacity:   1500 mAh   Yes,a strong battery is must. 1500 mAh should do the job
HTC P4550 (Kaiser) Demonstration by eXpansys
http://www.youtube.com/v/P41hoK-jX3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P41hoK-jX3I






for those of you interested apple dropped the price to $399 on the 8gb iPhone...

and yes im fuckin PISSED!  >:(

i was a $200 Beta Tester...



rant over...

i still love my iphone... just should have waited 2 months

apple screwed over the early adopters...

Ha,Ha,,,,, that´s nothing. I paid 1000$ for my N95,beat that.
(http://www.newlaunches.com/entry_images/0906/26/nokia_n95_3.jpg)
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2006/09/n95_low_yahoo_03.jpg)
I´m sure the price has dropped mad for mine also,since they´re dropping the new N95i with 8GBin acouple of months.
(http://www.mobilkoll.se/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nokia_n95_8gb-1.jpg)

I´ll wait for Iphone "2",I´m sure Apple will add GPS,3G and whatever it´s "missing" now.



^ Whut?!
iPhone without 3G?!

Didn´t you know?
I posted the specs for Iphone in one of the above threads.


Nah, I guess I didn't read it all lol..

Anyway, that's straight up wack
do you even live in a an area with 3G service?

likely that if you are in the states thats a no... so thats the reasoning behind it besides extending battery life

True,but it will come around,EDGE ain´t that bad.
For me it´s the whole package that´s Iphone is missing.
But hey,E.J Rizo has made it CLEAR intergration is the main feature for him.
It´s a give and take sitiation,either a phone with an easy UI that works well with your other gadgets or full feature phone with a "difficult" UI that you have to have to have 3rd party software to interact with your other gadgets.
Take your pick.
So if I was a Windows user I would get a phone with Windows Mobile. Touch or the P4550 is some Windows dope phones,but Samsung,Motorola etc. also have a couple of phone´s with Windows Mobile.



RAIDe the phone i posted was the W580i, it has just come out over here. currently on o2 and orange. however, the orange version aint available yet so i cant upgrade my contract... walkman>>>>>ipod!!!

Ok,cool. Some of the phone´s look the same,had to warn you,anyways it´s good to know which phone´s to stay off,the worst phone seems to be N76.
...and I´m with you about;
Quote
walkman>>>>>ipod/MP3 players!!!
Hell they just released 4GB for about 50$,32GB memory cards  is on the way.
I was going to get a 4GB for my N95,but my phone don´t support it yet(maybe with a software update(?)),so I´m stuck with 2GB,it´s all good but I have to delete a couple of albums every now and then. Why have a hundred gadgets when you can have them all in one unit? I carry a extra battery that´s all.





Quote
LG KU990
(http://www.chn3g.cn/market/UploadFiles_9279/200707/20070713095553482.jpg)
Brand    LG
Type    KU990 Viewty
Form factor    Candybar
Color    Black
Network
Phone Network    EDGE, GPRS, GSM, HSDPA (3G)
Service    850, 900, 1800, 1900
Connectivity
Bluetooth    v1.2 with A2DP
Infrared    No
Wi-Fi (WLAN)    No
USB    2.0
Fax / Data    No
Display
Main display    Color TFT touchscreen
Color display    262.144 colors
Dimensions    N/A
Resolution    240x400 pixels
External display    No
Memory
Internal memory    120MB
External memory    2GB
Memory slots    1
Storage types    MicroSD
Basic
Battery    Lithium Ion 1050 mAh
Standby time    340 hours
Talk time    3 hours
Calling
Vibrate alert    Yes
Photo ID    Yes
Ringtones    MP3, Polyfone
Camera
Camera    Yes
Megapixels    5 megapixels
Maximum photo resolution    2592x1944 pixels
Digital zoom    16x
Optical zoom    No
Auto focus    Yes
Flash    Yes
Recording video    Yes
Second (front) camera    Yes
Messaging
SMS    Yes
MMS    Yes
T9 text function    Yes
E-mail    Yes
Internet browsing    Yes
Entertainment
FM radio    Yes
Java    Yes
Audio player    AAC, eAAC, MP3, WMA
Video player    3GP, MPEG4
Features
Add ringtones    Yes
Organiser    Calculator, Calendar, Reminders
Video call    Yes
Other features    Built-in handsfree, Image Stabilizer
Format
Weight    4 oz.
Dimensions (H x W x D)    4.1x2.1x0.6 in.
http://www.letsgomobile.org/en/cellular/1116/lgku990viewty/
LG KU990 video
http://www.youtube.com/v/6qhh_lC7pAo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qhh_lC7pAo

Some sites said it runs Windows Mobile 6,but the site where I found the full specs of this phone don´t mention anything about the OS.









I found this IMAGE of a "coming" Sony Ericsson,could be fake. If not they´re also trying to make a Iphone clone
(http://www.semobile.com.ua/uploads/posts/1182151727_9c867eafbdd7.jpg)






Quote
This is a new Sony PS3 mobile phone...that plays Nintendo's Super Mario Bros...and which uses Microsoft's PS3 operating system - no, wait, that's not right. Hang on it's made in Koera - where the hell's Koera?!
(http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/1079-4654cff28b29d.jpg)
Yes, what we have here is the mother of all clone phones. It's a Chinese phone (naturally!), and its makers have decided that imitation is most definitely the sincerest form of flattery. As such, they've named it the Amycoll PS3 phone, which, er, "flatters" both Samsung, with its Korean Anycall brand, and also Sony, with its PS3. They've even added PlayStation buttons on the keypad, just for good measure!

Loads more pictures of the funniest mobile phone yet created, after the jump!

The copying fun doesn't end there, though. As Babelfish's translation calls it, the "Chinese evil behind-the-scenes manipulator's machine" has a Microsoft Windows logo that reads "Design for PS3". Didn't realise Microsoft did design for Sony's PS3! Not to worry, its entire Microsoft Windows user interface is faked as well!

As if that wasn't enough, they've even faked the country of origin. Korean phones are legendary for their technical features, so it makes sense to pretend your phone comes from Korea right?
Except they couldn't actually spell Korea, so the Amycoll PS3 comes from Koera!
:raisetheroof:

And still the fun continues. Not content with faking operating systems and copying brands and even countries (badly!) the Amycoll PS3 even includes a Nintendo NES, SNES and GameBoy color emulator, so you can play Super Mario Bros on your mobile phone.

Actually, that's a great idea! Playing Mario on a mobile is a killer app, and doing it with PlayStation buttons on a fake Windows Operating System is just so wrong, it feels goooood - almost dirty even!! Pity the phone's so illegal it'll never make it outiside of China (not to mention that the phone itself gets so hot when you play any of its games that you can't actually hold it!).
Another interesting feature is that this phone will play background noise when you make a call, just in case you want to pretend you're somewhere else. So, if you've told your wife you're on a ship somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean, when in reality you're down the local pub, the Amycoll PS3 will play the sounds of life aboard an Atlantic-trawling ship while you chat away to her! Really, they've thought of everything!

This phone is hilarious!
It's as if a team of teccie fan-boys got together one drunken night and concocted a wish list of all their favourite gadgets that they'd like in a mobile phone  :cheers:- then the next day, thought "what a great idea" and bodged just such a Frankenstein phone together, while singing "patents? trademarks? law-suits - pah! We spit on you all!"

Then, when they'd finished, their marketing department thought "what this phone really needs is some great sounding brand names - whose can we pinch?!"

Genius!


WOW,check this phone out,it got it all,ha,ha.
For more photos and details;
http://mobilementalism.com/2007/05/24/amycoll-ps3-phone-plays-mario-on-a-fake-windows-ui/

LMAO +1 the phone looks crappy as hell lol those damn chineese!

Yeah,but you got to admit that phone got "everything".









Here´s another crazy phone.
Japan Only
Quote
Feast your eyes on these pics of a brand new Sony Ericsson BRAVIA phone. The phone in question is the Sony Ericsson SO903iTV, and is a beast of a phone! Not only does it support mobile TV, it features Sony's Mobile BRAVIA engine for an enhanced TV picture on a mobile device, and a huge 3" WQVGA (240 x 432 pixels) TFT screen.

Even more impressive, it's not just any TV display you get with the SO903iTV - it's a full 16:9 widescreen display.
(http://xataka.com/images/2007/01/snipshot_a4gcjlx4o7v.jpg)
More photo´s and details;
http://mobilementalism.com/2007/07/23/pictures-of-sony-ericsson-bravia-phone/
ドコモ端末にデータ消失の可能性 販売停止 Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/F0Mp9yGwnEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Mp9yGwnEQ
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: SGV on September 05, 2007, 10:24:08 PM
Yup! The iPhone just dropped in price today! They're discontinuing the 4GB version too. I work at AT&T so we are issuing credits to anyone who bought the phone within the last 14 days.

We also got the Razr2 in today... Shit looks wack as fuck! And it's crazy expensive. 319.99 on a two year contract. That's more than the 4GB iPhone now. And it's barely 70 bucks cheaper than the 8GB iPhone. Sure it runs on HSDPA, but it's not a fully functional network yet. By the end of the year it will be though and probably by then the Razr2 will drop in price. But the iPhone dropping 2 bills is huge!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 06, 2007, 04:20:16 AM
^ Whut?!
iPhone without 3G?!

Didn´t you know?
I posted the specs for Iphone in one of the above threads.


Nah, I guess I didn't read it all lol..

Anyway, that's straight up wack
do you even live in a an area with 3G service?

likely that if you are in the states thats a no... so thats the reasoning behind it besides extending battery life

Yeah, We got good cover for 3G here in Norway. I've disabled my 3G, though. Battery life, yes ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 06, 2007, 10:58:28 AM
Ok,cool. Some of the phone´s look the same,had to warn you,anyways it´s good to know which phone´s to stay off,the worst phone seems to be N76.
Quote

you're right,that phone is not that good,my step mom got 1 like that and she's not happy with it! she used to have a n73 before and she said n73 is much better.

you must be happy with your n95! that phone is nice!

i want the bravaria looks fucking awsome!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 06, 2007, 11:39:26 AM
thanks for the info,i'll tell my step mom to take back a n73(it's about the same price)those se phones are just off the hook!!! I think we can name you the official dubcc cell phone master guy :D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 06, 2007, 12:15:51 PM
thanks for the info,i'll tell my step mom to take back a n73(it's about the same price)those se phones are just off the hook!!!
I think we can name you the official dubcc cell phone master guy :D

Ha,Ha
 :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow:
You might want to wait for this one N82,same features as N95 but it comes as a bar phone
(http://blogs.ideo.ro/gizmo/files/2007/05/nokia_n82.jpg)

looks nice and it looks like my n73
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 06, 2007, 12:18:15 PM
Why I'll Pass on the iPod Touch (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/hughes/18066)

Wed Sep 5, 2007 7:17PM EDT

Apple just announced the iPod Touch! Now we're talking, but what does this mean for the iPhone?
The main reason I was holding off on the iPhone was price. Now I'm an avid Apple fan, but first and foremost, I like to spend my money wisely. Despite a few gripes regarding the touch keypad, most of the reviews I've read about the iPhone are decent, nothing but praise. But again, price was definitely an obstacle for most, especially if they had to switch phone carriers. Somehow, opening your checkbook to pay early termination fees, $60 and up for an unlimited data plan, and over $500 for the device itself just hurt too much.

Today, I finally did it. I bought an iPhone.

Yes, I know I said I'd wait for the next generation, but I just couldn't resist the $200 price drop. Anyway, I'm taking my chances, because this may be the only chance at nabbing the-soon-to-be-obsolete 4GB model for under $300 (it's OK, I'm not proud). Now why would I buy an iPhone, when I could've waited for the $299 8GB iPod Touch, you ask? Here's my logic:

No Phone: The new iPod Touch may have more storage, but it doesn't have a phone. This means you still have to carry two devices: a phone and the iPod Touch. I don't know about you, but I'm not one to carry an iPod everywhere I go. That's why I say no thanks to the iPod Touch. I'll just stick to an iPhone and eliminate all the excess baggage.

No Camera: The 2-megapixel camera is gone.

No Bluetooth or EDGE: This means no bluetooth headphones, headset, or access to the Internet when you can't find a hotspot. Bummer.

Wi-Fi: Woohoo, it has Wi-Fi — but what's the use of having Wi-Fi if you can't always access a hotspot outside the house? Once you walk out the door, the only place you have free access to the Internet is at Starbucks to buy music.

Storage: Why, oh why on earth would you pay $299 for an 8GB iPod or $399 for 16GB? OK, so it's flash-based, has a multi-touch interface, a beautiful 3.5-inch display, and Wi-Fi capabilities, but the price just seems outrageous when the 160GB metal iPod Classic is only $349. Makes me wanna weep.

No New Features: The iPod Touch is just an iPhone without a phone. And why didn't they add new colors, FM radio, an expansion slot, or a microphone to give it VoIP capabilities? Even the Sony Mylo and Zune have some of these features. Why make it look and act like a PDA, yet leave out important things like a microphone.

The good news is we now have options. Options are great when you don't have to to decide between carriers, or find ways to unlock the iPhone without it blowing up in your face. The iPod Touch has great features, but doesn't compare to the iPhone. Now that the iPhone is cheaper, why not go for the one with the most features at the expense of storage? Besides, I already have plenty of storage for music on my four other iPods.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 06, 2007, 12:38:16 PM
thanks for the info,i'll tell my step mom to take back a n73(it's about the same price)those se phones are just off the hook!!!
I think we can name you the official dubcc cell phone master guy :D

Ha,Ha
 :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow:
You might want to wait for this one N82,same features as N95 but it comes as a bar phone
(http://blogs.ideo.ro/gizmo/files/2007/05/nokia_n82.jpg)

nice! i think im gonna change my phone for a n82! is the battery gonna be better on the n82 than the n95?

looks nice and it looks like my N73

The classic look can´t fail.
N73 is/was  a huge hit,to bad that Nokia released their "top dog feature phone(N95)" as a slider first.
As you probably know by now,I´m a cell phone freak,so I´m always looking for the next "top dog feature phone",there´s a lot of choices out there. But it´s hard to beat the features on HTC P4550,N95/N82,E90,SE K850,SE W960 and SE Bravia.
They´re all dope ass phones,but I´m a sucker for classic design,so N82 is one that I´m really looking forward to check out.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 06, 2007, 01:16:20 PM
Ok,cool. Some of the phone´s look the same,had to warn you,anyways it´s good to know which phone´s to stay off,the worst phone seems to be N76.
Quote

you're right,that phone is not that good,my step mom got 1 like that and she's not happy with it! she used to have a n73 before and she said n73 is much better.

you must be happy with your n95! that phone is nice!

I want the bravaria looks fucking awsome!!!
Feast your eyes on these pics of a brand new Sony Ericsson BRAVIA phone. The phone in question is the Sony Ericsson SO903iTV, and is a beast of a phone! Not only does it support mobile TV, it features Sony's Mobile BRAVIA engine for an enhanced TV picture on a mobile device, and a huge 3" WQVGA (240 x 432 pixels) TFT screen.

Even more impressive, it's not just any TV display you get with the SO903iTV - it's a full 16:9 widescreen display.
(http://xataka.com/images/2007/01/snipshot_a4gcjlx4o7v.jpg)
More photo´s and details;
http://mobilementalism.com/2007/07/23/pictures-of-sony-ericsson-bravia-phone/
ドコモ端末にデータ消失の可能性 販売停止 Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/F0Mp9yGwnEQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Mp9yGwnEQ


N76 is pulled back from some markets,I think if your mom complain she might be able to swap it to another model.
The thing about N73 and most Symbian OS phone´s they´re damn ass slow.
The UI on N95 is pretty fast,but it crash all the time and the battery sucks. But the battery is very small and slim,so it´s no problem to carry a extra battery. I found a couple of free GPS applications,that works ok. It´s simple JAVA applications so you can use them on any phone that supports JAVA(not Iphone). All you have to do is get a GPS reciever and connect it with blutooth. N95 got a build in GPS reciever,but the GPS antenna is not really any good so you have to have the phone in open modus to get any signals.
A small GPS reciever like this will do the job;
(http://www.mrgadget.com.au/uploaded_images/Emtac_Bluetooth_GPS_Receiver_blog-779268.jpg)
Free GPS JAVA application
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php
(http://www.tecnomaps.com/wp-content/amaze_GPS.jpg)
(http://www.techshout.com/images/amaze-navigation-software.jpg)
(http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/7771_1.jpg)


Yes,the SE Bravia phone is sick.
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/1Sony_Ericsson_SO903iTV.jpg)
They also got that SE Playstation phone coming up.
(http://www.portagame.com/media/psp-phone.jpg)
Another upcoming SE phone
(http://www.ichigo.se/noterat/wp-content/konceptsony.jpg)








thanks for the info,i'll tell my step mom to take back a n73(it's about the same price)those se phones are just off the hook!!!
I think we can name you the official dubcc cell phone master guy :D

Ha,Ha
 :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow: :cow:
You might want to wait for this one N82,same features as N95 but it comes as a bar phone
(http://blogs.ideo.ro/gizmo/files/2007/05/nokia_n82.jpg)

looks nice and it looks like my N73

The classic look can´t fail.
N73 is/was  a huge hit,to bad that Nokia released their "top dog feature phone(N95)" as a slider first.
As you probably know by now,I´m a cell phone freak,so I´m always looking for the next "top dog feature phone",there´s a lot of choices out there. But it´s hard to beat the features on HTC P4550,N95/N82,E90,SE K850,SE W960 and SE Bravia.
They´re all dope ass phones,but I´m a sucker for classic design,so N82 is one that I´m really looking forward to check out.






Why I'll Pass on the iPod Touch (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/hughes/18066)

Wed Sep 5, 2007 7:17PM EDT

Apple just announced the iPod Touch! Now we're talking, but what does this mean for the iPhone?
The main reason I was holding off on the iPhone was price. Now I'm an avid Apple fan, but first and foremost, I like to spend my money wisely. Despite a few gripes regarding the touch keypad, most of the reviews I've read about the iPhone are decent, nothing but praise. But again, price was definitely an obstacle for most, especially if they had to switch phone carriers. Somehow, opening your checkbook to pay early termination fees, $60 and up for an unlimited data plan, and over $500 for the device itself just hurt too much.

Today, I finally did it. I bought an iPhone.

Yes, I know I said I'd wait for the next generation, but I just couldn't resist the $200 price drop. Anyway, I'm taking my chances, because this may be the only chance at nabbing the-soon-to-be-obsolete 4GB model for under $300 (it's OK, I'm not proud). Now why would I buy an iPhone, when I could've waited for the $299 8GB iPod Touch, you ask? Here's my logic:

No Phone: The new iPod Touch may have more storage, but it doesn't have a phone. This means you still have to carry two devices: a phone and the iPod Touch. I don't know about you, but I'm not one to carry an iPod everywhere I go. That's why I say no thanks to the iPod Touch. I'll just stick to an iPhone and eliminate all the excess baggage.

No Camera: The 2-megapixel camera is gone.

No Bluetooth or EDGE: This means no bluetooth headphones, headset, or access to the Internet when you can't find a hotspot. Bummer.

Wi-Fi: Woohoo, it has Wi-Fi — but what's the use of having Wi-Fi if you can't always access a hotspot outside the house? Once you walk out the door, the only place you have free access to the Internet is at Starbucks to buy music.

Storage: Why, oh why on earth would you pay $299 for an 8GB iPod or $399 for 16GB? OK, so it's flash-based, has a multi-touch interface, a beautiful 3.5-inch display, and Wi-Fi capabilities, but the price just seems outrageous when the 160GB metal iPod Classic is only $349. Makes me wanna weep.

No New Features: The iPod Touch is just an iPhone without a phone. And why didn't they add new colors, FM radio, an expansion slot, or a microphone to give it VoIP capabilities? Even the Sony Mylo and Zune have some of these features. Why make it look and act like a PDA, yet leave out important things like a microphone.

The good news is we now have options. Options are great when you don't have to to decide between carriers, or find ways to unlock the iPhone without it blowing up in your face. The iPod Touch has great features, but doesn't compare to the iPhone. Now that the iPhone is cheaper, why not go for the one with the most features at the expense of storage? Besides, I already have plenty of storage for music on my four other iPods.



I don´t get it,what is it that dude is complaining about?
The Iphone or the new Ipod(yes,I know it´s the new Ipod),but what´s the point?
Either way,the Iphone got the most basic features you need in one unit if you use them or not is up you.
-Wi-Fi only at Starbucks? What? If dude don´t need/use Wi-Fi,don´t use it then,no need to complain about it.
-The camera,well the camera ain´t all that,but it works well for digital media(internet). If camera is the feature you´re looking for in a cell phone go for one of the many Cyber Shot phones SE has released.
-Yes you don´t need to carry a Ipod with you if you got a phone like Iphone,SE W960 or Nokia N93i. For real do you relly need more than 8GB of music with you daily? +if you don´t like any of those phone´s there´s plenty of phones with expandable memory.
Why can´t phone´s like Iphone,SE W960 and N93i have expandable memory? The good thing about the new SE K850 is that it supports two memory cards(M2 and SD) at the same time,so that means in near future you can have 64GB your phone if you really need it.
SE K850 memory card slot;
(http://www.mobilmania.cz/uploadedfiles/15193.jpg)
-The bluetooth issue? Hmmmm,well Iphone only supports handsfree,not file transfers. Well that´s a bad thing for those that use it,I do all the time with both my MAC-Book and other phones. That´s another priorty question,if you use/need it.
-MMS,that´s a feature I hardly use,and 3G that´s not fully build out yet,well EDGE ain´t that bad. K.Dub was "complaing that it don´t have Iphone 3G,but when it got down to it he´s disabled it because it drains his battery. I don´t know what to say.... It´s like everbybody is complaining how wak 50 Cent is,but there´s "hundred" threads about leaks and hook ups for his new album,what´s going on? Hypocrits anyone?

Conclusion;
When it all get´s down to it,it´s a give and take sitiuation.
Hell,it´s your money and only you know best what you need right?.
I´m one of the few that use "all" the features that comes with my phones.
Like Matty said,(he works for Vodaphone),he have to help all his customers all the time with working out how to use/set up all the features that comes with the phone´s and I´m sure SGV (works for AT&T) get this all the time too.
The key to the Iphone is a user friendly UI not features.
Take your pick.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 06, 2007, 01:38:24 PM
my pick is : I WANT THE N82  ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Jip on September 06, 2007, 01:46:28 PM
shit the HTC kaiser, with a 400mhz processor, thats whats up
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 06, 2007, 01:49:53 PM
my pick is : I WANT THE N82  ;D
N82 got same features as N95 but it comes as a bar phone
(http://blogs.ideo.ro/gizmo/files/2007/05/nokia_n82.jpg)


Hell,yeah That phone got all the features and a classic design that is user friendly.
The UI might not be the most user friendly,but it´s the whole package.


Here´s another crazy design. Nokia AEON
(http://read.mofude.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/aeon.jpg)
(http://outhouserag.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/aeon1.jpeg)

Sony Ericsson Japan again,damn they´re crazy
(http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2007/hh/62024778/seesaw_sc.jpg)


What´s up with this phone? Those Japanese got their shit twisted
(http://media.techeblog.com/images/unusual_cell_3.jpg)

Here´s a couple of cell phones WITH TV,remember they work ONLY in Japan
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/03/0301_mobiletv/image/opener.jpg)

James Bond Style;
(http://www.gizmowatch.com/images/f88_wrist_watch_mobile_phone_.jpg)




shit the HTC P4550/Kaiser, with a 400mhz processor, thats whats up

True,True That´s a bad ass phone.
HTC Kaiser Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/c1V6ZXQbGQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1V6ZXQbGQc
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 06, 2007, 02:13:17 PM
Nokia AEON IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 06, 2007, 02:35:04 PM
Nokia AEON IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
(http://read.mofude.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/aeon.jpg)
(http://outhouserag.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/aeon1.jpeg)


Those Japanese like their phone´s with twisted designs.
It´s like they´re a testing market before Europe and US. Alot of those SonyEricsson phone´s come out in Europe and US a couple of years later if they´re a success in Japan. I remember they had the 2MP
SE swivel phone SE S700 only called SO505is in Japan
(http://mobilementalism.com/imageSnag/272-438602387ef51.jpg)
2MP camera was a big deal a couple of years ago,but Japan had that shit mad years ago with the
SE SO505is
(http://img.zol.com.cn/article/1/810/liuShGfthxY0g.jpg)


What the fuck is this,i hated the Nokia phone´s with this design and now SE will do the same shit,fuck it;
(http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sonyericsson_retro_2.jpg)


This one looks ok,don´t it?
(http://www.yankodesign.com/images/design_news/2007/05/21/balance.jpg)









what is the release date for the nokia n82?

Around christmas I believe.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 06, 2007, 02:55:44 PM
apple is giving me and all the early iphone purchasers $100 store credit because of the price drop... either a great stunt by apple or great customer service.. now im not mad at all...

i love apple again... i knew i couldnt stay mad at them forever lol...

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/openiphoneletter/

To all iPhone customers:
I have received hundreds of emails from iPhone customers who are upset about Apple dropping the price of iPhone by $200 two months after it went on sale. After reading every one of these emails, I have some observations and conclusions.

First, I am sure that we are making the correct decision to lower the price of the 8GB iPhone from $599 to $399, and that now is the right time to do it. iPhone is a breakthrough product, and we have the chance to 'go for it' this holiday season. iPhone is so far ahead of the competition, and now it will be affordable by even more customers. It benefits both Apple and every iPhone user to get as many new customers as possible in the iPhone 'tent'. We strongly believe the $399 price will help us do just that this holiday season.

Second, being in technology for 30+ years I can attest to the fact that the technology road is bumpy. There is always change and improvement, and there is always someone who bought a product before a particular cutoff date and misses the new price or the new operating system or the new whatever. This is life in the technology lane. If you always wait for the next price cut or to buy the new improved model, you'll never buy any technology product because there is always something better and less expensive on the horizon. The good news is that if you buy products from companies that support them well, like Apple tries to do, you will receive years of useful and satisfying service from them even as newer models are introduced.

Third, even though we are making the right decision to lower the price of iPhone, and even though the technology road is bumpy, we need to do a better job taking care of our early iPhone customers as we aggressively go after new ones with a lower price. Our early customers trusted us, and we must live up to that trust with our actions in moments like these.

Therefore, we have decided to offer every iPhone customer who purchased an iPhone from either Apple or AT&T, and who is not receiving a rebate or any other consideration, a $100 store credit towards the purchase of any product at an Apple Retail Store or the Apple Online Store. Details are still being worked out and will be posted on Apple's website next week. Stay tuned.

We want to do the right thing for our valued iPhone customers. We apologize for disappointing some of you, and we are doing our best to live up to your high expectations of Apple.

Steve Jobs
Apple CEO
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 08, 2007, 01:45:22 AM



What the fuck is this,i hated the Nokia phone´s with this design and now SE will do the same shit,fuck it;
(http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sonyericsson_retro_2.jpg)


me 2! the first thing that popped in my head when i saw the nokia was : this shit is ugly!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 08, 2007, 01:58:27 AM
(http://i5.tinypic.com/6gv5q1h.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 08, 2007, 02:56:54 AM
(http://www.mobilewhack.com/images/nokia_n73_1.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 08, 2007, 03:12:21 AM
what is the release date for the nokia n82?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 08, 2007, 04:17:52 AM
nice it's gonna be on my christmas list  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 08, 2007, 04:33:50 AM
MOBILE GAMES HOOK UP
http://gallery.mobile9.com/c/softwares/1/  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 08, 2007, 02:24:06 PM
Cell phone applications;

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Mig33 IM application
(http://venturebeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/mig332.jpg)
(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/531/mig33editvf3.png)
(http://img304.imageshack.us/img304/1299/emsn8lo.jpg)
www.mig33.com
What is mig33?
Mig33 is a global mobile community that lets you keep in touch with friends and family through a variety of online services, right on your mobile phone.
With mig33, you can chat and send instant messages and emails, make inexpensive international phone calls, share photos, connect with old friends and even meet new ones. Think of it as an addition to your phone's existing service.
What you get with mig33

Suddenly, you'll have an array of services to help you stay connected and save money, all in the palm of your hand.
Community
Chatrooms
Profiles
Photo Sharing
Mobile Web
Rewards for inviting friends
And more
Connectivity
Use your IM (MSN, Yahoo!, ICQ , AOL, Google Talk, SMS, to name a few)
Share Photos
Make inexpensive international phone calls
Send cheap international SMS
And more
www.mig33.com

How to get MSN on your cell phone;
http://www.youtube.com/v/GDFYLvPBXpc

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agilemessenger IM application
(http://forum.allnokia.ru/files/1_600.jpg)
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/80/fe/7df1b340dca08a2183f92010.L.jpg)
www.agilemessenger.com
Send instant text, photo, voice and video messages to anyone on your MSN®, AIM®, Yahoo!®, ICQ® & GoogleTalk® contact list directly from your mobile phone or PDA! Click here; www.agilemessenger.com to download a FREE trial!


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Fring IM application
(http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/4799-57564655227c3bca16dcopy.jpg)
(http://rmen.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/n73skype.png)
www.fring.com
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what is fring ?
fring™ is a free mobile VoIP application that enables free mobile internet calls and live chat (IM) to other ‘fringsters’ and PC-based services including Skype®, Google Talk™, ICQ, MSN® Messenger and Twitter, using free Wi-Fi or your 3G or GPRS internet data plan instead of costly mobile airtime minutes.

With fring, you’ll gain benefits previously only found only on the PC and get empowered with mobility as never before: make cheap mobile internet calls, see who’s online before dialing with contact availability indicators (presence), live chat instead of SMS, engage in multiple conversations simultaneously, view conversation history and more! Take all your fring, Skype, Google Talk, ICQ, MSN Messenger and Twitter buddies with you wherever you go and view them, along with your regular phone contacts, from one integrated and searchable contact list.
Also make cheap calls to landlines and regular cellular contacts using your SkypeOut account or hundreds of SIP-based providers such as Eutelia, GizmoProject, VoipCheap, VoipStunt, Free World & SIPNET over fring, even from non-SIP enabled handsets.

As fring automatically roams between Wi-Fi and 3G networks, you can effortlessly login to recognized Wi-Fi hotspots, mindlessly gaining access to the best network for optimal call quality and savings.

Easily download fring into your handset and begin fringing in less than a minute.

fring bypasses traditional mobile voice and SMS text messaging services by utilizing the mobile handset’s native internet connection. fring does not require any dedicated hardware or airtime and works with phones purchased through any mobile operator. The patent-pending peer-to-peer mobile VoIP technology delivers full-duplex voice quality with rich internet functionality and maximum network efficiency.
www.fring.com


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Interview with Alex Nerst
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/interview-fring-en.shtml
As you might probably know, fring is one of the most popular mVoIP application for Symbian (Nokia and UIQ) smartphones and Windows Mobile mobile devices. Actually you could read few articles about this application on our site. Now we've got an opportunity to ask few questions about future plans, perspectives of fring developing, etc to fring co-founder, Alext Nerst.
Read the interview here;
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/interview-fring-en.shtml




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Opera Mini Web browser;
(http://www.thedailystar.net/2006/05/27/2006-05-27__tech02.jpg)
(http://static.flickr.com/34/72640989_bc7e1f630e_o.jpg)
What is Opera Mini?
www.operamini.com/
All your favorite Web sites now fit on your phone. Check your email, check your friends' blogs, or just check out the daily dish. Download Opera Mini to get any Web site, anywhere, any time.
www.mini.opera.com


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Mobile GMaps
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/355927956_fb5703f794.jpg)
(http://gmapsmania.googlepages.com/gmmstgmm.JPG)
www.mgmaps.com
What is Mobile GMaps
Mobile GMaps is a FREE application that displays maps from Google Maps, Yahoo! Maps, Windows Live Local (MSN Virtual Earth), Ask.com, Open Street Map and other sources on Java J2ME-enabled mobile phones, PDAs and other devices. MGMaps can connect to a GPS receiver over bluetooth or use internal GPS features on some phones in order to automatically display the map for your current position. You can pre-download maps and store them on your memory card in order to use them on the go without accessing the internet.

Mobile GMaps is distributed under the Attribution - NonCommercial - NoDerivs Creative Commons license. You may download, use and distribute the application free of charge only for personal, non-commercial purposes.
http://www.mgmaps.com/


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Free GPS JAVA application
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php
(http://www.tecnomaps.com/wp-content/amaze_GPS.jpg)
(http://www.techshout.com/images/amaze-navigation-software.jpg)
(http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/7771_1.jpg)
What is amAze?
amAze is a first of its kind free navigation and local search service. It is free to download and use and it contains wide coverage of maps including aerial photo in Europe, North America,Australia and parts of Asia and Africa.
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php

You will a Bluetooth GPS antenna like this if your phone don´t have a build in GPS antenna
(http://www.davespda.com/images/reviews/globalsat/globalsat02.jpg)
(http://bilder.minhembio.com/bild/index.php?pic_id=139964.jpg)

Globalsat BT-328 Bluetooth GPS
http://www.davespda.com/images/reviews/globalsat/globalsat02.jpg
     Globalsat provides an array of GPS solutions that connect to devices by laptops. The Globalsat BT-328 GPS is about the size of a good lighter. Size is extremely important when it comes to a Bluetooth unit, especially in my book. When you are already carrying a device around, you want your accessories to be as small as possible while still being functional. The good thing about a GPS unit is that it is simply an antenna, so, for the most part, smaller will not detract from the usability. The BT-328 is small enough to fit in the small pocket of my jeans. Actually, it fits rather perfectly in that pocket and technically it is possible to use it while in a pocket. The main shell of the BT-328 is white with a plastic black front and rubber black back. The front face of the device includes the power button, a hole for attaching a wrist strap, and on the right side, the three lights for showing the current status of the device. On the top of the device is the power port for recharging the unit. That is really all there is to the BT-328. Like most Bluetooth GPS units, the device it self it simple and to the point.
     When the GPS is turned on, the three LED’s show the current status of the device. The top light shows red when the device needs to be charged. The middle light shows green for its connection to the satellites. When the light is solid, the GPS is not connected. When the light is flashing, it has connected so satellites. This seems a little backward to me as usually device lights show solid when they are connected and flash while they are trying to connect. The bottom light is blue for Bluetooth connectivity. When the light is flashing slow it is disconnected. When the light is flashing fast it is connected. This is even more confusing then the GPS light because you have to try and count and see if it is about 3 seconds or 1 second. Being that these lights are the only real “user interface” of the device, I would have hoped for them to make a little more sense for easy identification of the functionality (though maybe I am the only one confused by the lighting).
     The Globalsat BT-328 GPS is a rather strong Bluetooth GPS unit including specifications that are on par or better then other GPS on the market. The unit supports 12-channels of parallel connections, which is pretty standard but not top of the line. For most people, 12-channels are enough, though more would increase the connectivity of the unit. For those that know about GPS internals, the chipset in the BT-328 is the SiRF GSC2. It supports a tracking sensitivity of -155dBm. This seems kind of low compared to other GPS units I have looked at, but it does really seem to hurt the performance of the unit. I found the BT-328 to have quick boot times after the initial connection and really quick reacquisition timing coming out of tunnels. For being such a small unit, the battery life is amazing. Rated at 1300 mAh and 16 hours, that is what you get. I have used the device for weeks without having to recharge. Only a cigarette lighter power adapter is included, so you can't charge the device in the house, though since most people will probably be using in the car, it makes sense.
     Included with the BT-328 is a piece of software for your Windows PC or Windows Mobile device. The software, GPS Info, does not do mapping, but makes it easy to check connectivity and the status of the GPS unit. You can see everything from the data being received by device to satellite locations and information about the current position including latitude and longitude. While you still need mapping software, especially with the MDA, it is a lot easy to launch GPS Info to check the connectivity of the GPS before running mapping software that may run slowly on the device. Most mapping programs do include something like GPS Info, but GPS Info is simple, quick, to the point, and very helpful.
     While I have noted some quarks, the unit is very useable with its long battery life and strong connectivity. The Globalsat BT-328 is a great low-powered Bluetooth GPS solution with pricing that is affordable. The BT-328 can be found for about $75, well under the $100 price tag that always deterred me from getting a Bluetooth GPS. Combine with the incredible battery life and good performance, I feel the BT-328 is a good GPS for anyone wanting to add active mapping functionality to their device.

For more on this product or to purchase the Globalsat BT-328, visit:
www.globalsat.com.tw




For more applications and games for your cell phone;
www.getjar.com



Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 08, 2007, 04:31:11 PM
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w317/batgot/glockphone.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 01:24:18 AM
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w317/batgot/glockphone.jpg)

LMAO
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 07:08:19 AM
tusken RAIDEr - CEO of The Dangerous Crew Movement - props for the hook up  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 09, 2007, 11:41:03 AM



What the fuck is this,i hated the Nokia phone´s with this design and now SE will do the same shit,fuck it;
(http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sonyericsson_retro_2.jpg)


me 2! the first thing that popped in my head when i saw the nokia was : this shit is ugly!




Here some of the ugly Nokia´s I talked about,damn those fucks is ugly;
Nokia 3650
(http://nds2.photos.nokia.com/EUROPE_NOKIA_COM_3/r2/press/photo/phones/jpeg/3650_lores_01.jpg)
Nokia 7600
(http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Sept2003/Nokia7600.jpg)
Nokia 7500
(http://www.fonebiz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nokia-7500.jpg)
Nokia 7380 shit look wak anyways
(http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/02_7380_7w_lowres.jpg)
You get the picture,what the fuck was Nokia thinking?
Some (?) dudes might find those designs cool.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 11:58:38 AM



What the fuck is this,i hated the Nokia phone´s with this design and now SE will do the same shit,fuck it;
(http://modculture.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/sonyericsson_retro_2.jpg)


me 2! the first thing that popped in my head when i saw the nokia was : this shit is ugly!




Here some of the ugly Nokia´s I talked about,damn those fucks is ugly;
Nokia 3650
(http://nds2.photos.nokia.com/EUROPE_NOKIA_COM_3/r2/press/photo/phones/jpeg/3650_lores_01.jpg)
Nokia 7600
(http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Sept2003/Nokia7600.jpg)
Nokia 7500
(http://www.fonebiz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nokia-7500.jpg)
Nokia ?? shit look wak anyways
(http://www.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/02_7380_7w_lowres.jpg)
You get the picture,what the fuck was Nokia thinking?
Some (?) dudes might find those designs cool.

they all fucking ugly!!! 1 guy at my job has the 3650 and when i first saw it i was like : damn it's a fucking ugly phone,why did he bought that ugly shit!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Sickaluffa on September 09, 2007, 12:43:18 PM
lol bundy
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: es-jay on September 09, 2007, 01:02:53 PM
getting the Sony Ericsson W580i delivered on Tuesday. cant wait to get rid of my broken piece of shit K750i...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00498/W580i_Front_Closed__498859a.jpg)


thats a nice phone! +1
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 09, 2007, 01:17:15 PM
More ugly phones;

Virgin Lobster 700tv
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/media/2006-review-1/virgin-lobster-700tv.jpg)
The phones runs Windows Mobile and got a build in TV tuner.
Check out the name Virgin Lobster what´s up with that?
www.mobilegazette.com/ 2006-review-06x12x22.htm

Nokia 3100
(http://picnic.ciao.com/fr/173658.jpg)


x-cute
(http://www.slashphone.com/uploads/1292/xcute_1.jpg)

Gold vish
(http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/5878_17070694311.jpg)

Nokia 3220
(http://www.welectronics.com/gsm/Nokia/nokia%203220b.jpg)


Nokia N-GAGE
(http://cache.kotaku.com/gaming/n_gage_a_n_gage_qd.jpg)
I found one of these at a club once,had it for a couple of weeks before I gave it away.

Vertu
(http://futurelawyer.typepad.com/futurelawyer/images/vertucobra.jpg)
What a bling,bling phone,ha,ha

firefly
(http://www.sff.net/people/spiziks/product_coloredshells_closer.jpg)


Rotary Cell
(http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/02/RotaryCell.jpg)


Nokia 5500
(http://www.iphonematters.com/images/uploads/Nokia-5500_500x528.jpg)


Again some of you might find some of these cool?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 01:21:18 PM
they all ugly LMAO AT ROTARY CELL WTF  n-gage sucks btw  ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 09, 2007, 01:27:14 PM
getting the Sony Ericsson W580i delivered on Tuesday. cant wait to get rid of my broken piece of shit K750i...

Hey SE K750 is dope,I still got mine. Love it,wish SE released a phone with that classic design with some updated features like their upcoming SE K850 phone.
(http://SE K750)
(http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11349187/New_Sony_Ericsson_K750i.jpg)

SE K850
(http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Sony-Ericsson-K850i-phone.jpg)
I don´t like the new design for the joystick/d-pad.
The Joystick/D-Pad;
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/k850_3.jpg)

But the phone got dope features.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: es-jay on September 09, 2007, 01:30:25 PM
K750i was ahhite until it broke... joystick is fucked now. the phone is useable only by using number shortcuts on the menu...

wish i had never dropped my W850i in a sink... water damage is a bitch!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 01:38:37 PM
maybe the new generation will be better...cuz the first one sucked ass real bad,even de qd sucked
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 09, 2007, 01:41:57 PM
they all ugly LMAO AT ROTARY CELL WTF
Rotary Cell
(http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/02/RotaryCell.jpg)


n-gage sucks btw  ;D

That Rotary joint is CRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYY WAAAAAAAAK

Yeah I had that N-Gage joint for a couple weeks,garbage!
N-Gage
(http://www.museo8bits.com/ngage.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/yFoLx6ZVY3I


seems like Nokia will release more of those garbage phones;
(http://www.nextweb.com.br/manual/nokia_n_gage.bmp)
(http://www.topwords.com.ua/Mobilnews/2005images/05/806.jpg)




maybe the new generation will be better...cuz the first one sucked ass real bad,even de qd sucked


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K750i was ahhite until it broke... joystick is fucked now. the phone is useable only by using number shortcuts on the menu...

wish i had never dropped my W850i in a sink... water damage is a bitch!

Damn you had SE W850? Shit,that´s a shame there´s 8GB memory cards available for that phone for like 50$.
They changed the memory cards to a smaller format on the new models and there´s only 4GB available right now,
but there´s bigger cards coming in a minute.
SE W850
(http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/W850_front_with_headset_precious_black.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/3g_uh3GQAWU

I still love my SE K750,the most user friendly UI (A100 OS) and phone I have ever come across.
Pluss I love the CLASSIC user friendly design.
(http://www.myworldphone.com/L420-7208-callout01%5B1%5D.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/F7Sjnxkl71s




is there any 8 gig for minisd ?

Looks like 8GB is available,but not sure if the current software Symbian S60 3.1 supports it.
I was going to get SD Micro 4GB (san disk),for my phone. (only 4GB available SD Micro cards available)
But my current software don´t support it yet (Thank God I tried it before I purchased it).
Mini SD 8 GB
(http://www.idg.no/multimedia/archive/00020/sandisk_SDHC_8gb_20079c.jpg)
(http://www.mrgadget.com.au/catalog/images/sandisk_sdhc_8gb_sd_card.jpg)
Micro SD 4GB The new Nokia models use this card.
(http://www.idg.no/multimedia/archive/00019/sandisk_4gb_microSDH_19644c.jpg)
Micro SD 8GB seems like there´s a 8GB card coming in near future!
(http://www.slashphone.com/media/data/800/microSDHC_8GB.jpg)
Waiting for a software update for Symbian S60 3.1 feature pack 1(your phone run the exact same OS as my N95).
You should visit this site for Symbian updates;
http://my-symbian.com/main/index.php
(http://briefcase.pathfinder.gr/download/amantzoros/27608/326381/0/My-symbian.jpg)

For those that use A100 OS (Simple/Normal SE and some LG/Samsungs)
www.esato.com
(https://www.google.com/adsense/static/no/images/esato.gif)



Found this for you Es-Jay
http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1764
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[Aug 31st 2007] SanDisk today announed that it will start shipping 8 GB M2 cards later this year. SanDisk will be the first company offering 8GB size. This is the memory card the new SE models use

The new memory card M2 and the old Memory stick;
(http://img.hexus.net/v2/internationalevents/cebit_hannover_2006/sony/sony.m2.1gb.jpg)




Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 01:47:10 PM
is there any 8 gig for minisd ?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 09, 2007, 02:18:36 PM
props once again for the info and web page! u know ur the official dubcc cell phone master guy!  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 09, 2007, 02:47:00 PM
props once again for the info and web page! u know ur the official dubcc cell phone master guy!  8)

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HTC Advantage X7500 A HUGE BRICK but it got killer features!
(http://www.pdaphone.ch/shop/images/htcx7500.gif)
(http://www.elite-electronix.com/images/HTC-Advantage-X7500.jpg)
(http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/2/htc-x7500-1.jpg)
(http://www.atsmobil.fr/images/htc/x7500/htc_x7500_02.jpg)
You can detach the keyboard
(http://www.areamobile.de/images/handies/HTC/Advantage/200703262045HTC_Advantage_zerlegt.jpg)
Size compared to HTC S710 and HTC P3300
(http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/img/news/671.jpg)
Damn it´s HUGE
(http://www.slashgear.com/gallery/data_files/7/4/HTC_Athena_size_1.jpg)
HTC Advantage X7500
http://www.youtube.com/v/kroaUimcXU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kroaUimcXU0

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Here are the hardware specs that I can confirm are on this model, the HTC Advantage X7501:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/mobile-gadgeteer/?p=559

624 MHz Intel PXA270 processor with ATi Graphic Chip W2284
QUALCOMM MSM 6275 processor for 3G mobile data connectivity
128 MB RAM (about 83 MB available to the end user after a hard reset)
256 MB Flash ROM (about 130 MB available to the end user after a hard reset)
8 GB Microdrive hard drive, Seagate model
5.26 inches x 3.86 inches x 0.63 inch (0.79 inches with keyboard on face)
10.75 ounces with battery, miniSD, and SIM and 13 ounces with the keyboard attached
5 inch transmissive TFT-LCD with backlight LEDs and touch sensitive screen, VGA 480×640 resolution and 65k color support
HSDPA/UMTS (850/1900 MHz for USA and 2100 for Europe/Japan)
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
GPS receiver: SirF StarIII with Ephemeris Extension support
Bluetooth 2.0 with A2DP support
802.11 b/g WiFi
3 megapixel camera with autofocus and flash light
HTC VueFLO accelerometer for web browsing
HTC ExtUSB with USB 2.0 support (used for charging/syncing/audio jack)
HTC proprietary 16-pin port for USB 1.1 host and VGA out
2200 mAh removable Lithium-ion polymer battery
Mini-SD card slot for external storage cards (SDHC compatible)
Stereo speakers


(http://www.newsmobile.it/telefoni/news/arthena_11)

(http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/contentimages/7362_1.jpg)
(http://komunikatory.cz/media/2007-hw/20070415-htc_x7500_bgr.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 09, 2007, 02:50:55 PM
yeah props to raider for the cell phone updates. after I get my laptop & desktop replaced i'll be getting the iphone since it dropped 200 bucks.  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 10, 2007, 01:13:32 AM
Samsung SGH-P110 is cool!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 11:05:57 AM
APPLE RUMOUR Iphone "2" with 16GB and 3G before christmas!

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September 7, 2007 12:57 PM PDT
Apple signs iPhone patent deal with Interdigital
Posted by Tom Krazit
http://news.com.com/8301-13579_3-9773982-37.html?tag=head

Apple has signed a patent-licensing agreement with a company called InterDigital for what appeared to be $20 million, plus ongoing royalties, that covers the current iPhone and hints at a 3G successor.

Interdigital broke the news in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission Thursday, amid all the hubbub related to the iPhone pricing flap. The company said it has signed a seven-year licensing agreement with Apple retroactive to iPhone Day that covers the technology used in the iPhone.


http://uk.gizmodo.com/iphone%20and%20jobs.jpg
Interdigital's cashing in on the iPhone with a patent-licensing deal.
(Credit: CNET Networks)

Interdigital develops technology that gets mobile phones onto cellular networks. The company's products and designs are used for older cellular standards, like the EDGE network used by the iPhone, but is focusing most of its current development on designing technology for the WCDMA (wideband code division multiple access) and HSDPA (high-speed downlink packet access) standards that power faster 3G networks.

That would imply that Apple's got a faster 3G iPhone in the works, although that's hardly an unexpected development. The company wants to enter the European mobile phone market in 2007, where 3G networks are far more common. And I think it's pretty safe to say that if Apple is still selling iPhones in seven years--when the license runs out--they'll probably have a 3G iPhone or two.

Interdigital didn't specifically address the terms of the agreement in its filing with the SEC. But Friday morning it issued a press release increasing its third-quarter guidance for patent-licensing revenue to a range of $55.5 million to $56.5 million, up from its previous guidance of $53.5 million to $54.5 million. Plus, the company said it "expects to receive a $20 million payment in the near future in connection with a recently signed license agreement. The revenue associated with this new agreement is reflected in this updated guidance." Hmm.... Investors sure liked the news, driving Interdigital's stock up almost 13 percent just before the close of trading Friday.

When CEO Steve Jobs announced the iPhone at Macworld in January, he made sure to note that Apple had filed for more than 200 patents related to the iPhone. But Apple doesn't develop cellular networking technology, of course. An Apple representative did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the Interdigital patent deal.



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6GB iPhone with 3G coming says T-Mobile Germany Ad
SEE IMAGE OF ADD HERE;
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/16gb_iphone_with_3g_coming_says_tmobile_germany_ad.php

(http://jkontherun.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/tmobile_logo_1.gif)

This dubious advert (suspected to be from T-Mobile Germany) doing the rounds claims that the16GB iPhone with 3G support (HSDPA and UMTS), will be available in Germany by 12th November 2007. The ad also stipulates possible download speeds of 3.6Mbps and a $687 price tag. It furthermore states that on purchase of the phone you would get an iTunes voucher, plus various call plans will be on offer. Even unlimited data plans will apparently make their way into Germany. The call plans will range from $69-$96/month, with more inclusive minutes and text messages being the reason for the price gap.

yeah i read up on both of those on the macrumor sites... the t mobile add seems to have some things that are kinda fishy... but who knows... id expect 3G outside the US... but doesnt make the most sense in the US seeing as most people arent even near a 3G network... i think most people that complain about it dont even know that... or dont even live near a 3G network... for me it would work for me at work since i work in Downtown LA but not at home... but its not anything i really need seeing as i have WiFi both at home and work..
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 10, 2007, 11:46:11 AM
3G is not an BIG issue,EDGE ain't that bad. But it will come around,so it's ok to be prepared for the future.
I'm sure if this is true,that all the things Iphone is "missing" (no need to repeat,read previous posts) will be fixed/included.
I would rather see Apple add expandable memory card slot,the possibility to change battery(I like to be able to bring a extra battery or two with me)& exchange files trough bluetooth(easy to fix,software issue).





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Samsung SGH-P110
(http://www.interstar.ua/mobile/img/phones/samsung_sgh-p110_add_92.jpg)
(http://www.mobime.ru/var/news/2007/02/14/samsung_sgh_p110_1.jpg)
(http://cellphones.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/samsung_4.jpg)

Innovative form factor from Samsung
http://www.esato.com/news/cebit2007.php?sd=54
Inovative design from Samsung this year. Two years ago, Motorla had a model called MPx on display here at the CeBIT fair, but the model never went to production. Samsung is now pushing the idea further with the announcement of SGH-P110. The phone model can be openede as a regular clamshell model or opened like a svivel model. Both the bottom part which holds the keyboard and the display can be used two ways, in portrait and landscape mode. Used in landscape mode, the keyboard has the QWERTY  layout. In portrait mode, only the number keys are active.


Samsung SGH-P110 Specifications:
http://www.finalsense.com/news/it/phone/samsung_sgh-p110.htm
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (900/1800/1900 MHz)
Camera VGA Camera
Display 65536 TFT (2.1”, 176 x 220)
Features
Automatic Switching Display
Full QWERTY Keyboard
Multi-Format Music & Video Support
Instant Messaging / Speaker Phone
Bluetooth Stereo Music Profile (A2DP)
Bluetooth v2.0 / USB
Memory 25MB User Memory





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Sanyo M1
(http://z.about.com/d/cellphones/1/0/f/D/5/sanyo-m1-g.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/Q_OsooZsfgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OsooZsfgA
http://www.finalsense.com/news/it/phone/sanyo_m1.htm
Sprint today announced the full-channel availability of the Sanyo M1, Sprint's first phone with 1GB of internal memory. Able to offer storage for up to 16 hours of music and other multimedia files including pictures, video clips and voice recording, the M1 also provides quick and easy access to Sprint-exclusive content, including:


- Sprint Music Store, which allows users to browse and wirelessly download full-length songs directly to their phone


- Sprint TV with more than 50 channels of television and on-demand video and audio including more than 20 channels offering live content


- NFL Mobile, a Sprint-exclusive wireless application that brings fans access to same-day video highlights, customizable real-time statistics, scores, injury reports and other information updated every two seconds


- Sprint Movies, the first "pay-per-view" service for mobile phones in the U.S. that streams full-length movies, including recent box-office hits and timeless favorites from Buena Vista VOD, Lionsgate, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment and Universal Pictures


- Sprint Power View, the industry's first made-for-mobile sports and entertainment video programming network

The M1's advanced power management offers up to 18 hours of continuous music-playing time to support extended use of the multimedia capabilities. Additional key features include stereo Bluetooth wireless technology, a 2.0-megapixel camera with auto-focus, nine equalizer settings for fine-tuning the listening experience, and background music mode for listening to music while checking email, surfing the Web or sending text messages. The M1 also has external controls and large external LCD for optimal usability.

The Sanyo M1 is available through all Sprint retail channels for a suggested retail price of $349.99 or $199.99 with a two-year subscriber agreement.

 

Sanyo M1 Features

* Sprint Music Store provides over-the-air downloads of high-quality full songs (MP3 and AAC / AAC+ digital files)
* Sprint TV offers more than 50 channels including live television
* 1.0 GB internal memory capacity (Stores up to 16 hours of music, or a combination of music, photos, videos, and voice recording)
* Advanced power management enables up to 16 hours of music playing
* 2.0-megapixel camera and camcorder with autofocus and flash
* Background music mode allows music play while checking email, surfing the web or sending text messages
* On Demand news, sports, weather and entertainment content
* Enhanced gaming experience with 3D Graphics
* Pre-loaded with Sprint's exclusive NFL Mobile application
* Stream music to your phone with Music Choice, Sirius Music and others
* External navigation control allows easy access to music features
* External dual 15 mm stereo speakers for stereo music playback and speakerphone
* Sprint PCS Ready Link for quick walkie-talkie-style communication
* Bluetooth enabled
* GPS enabled



Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 10, 2007, 11:56:54 AM
i was always wondering why the iphone dindt include bluetooth
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: es-jay on September 10, 2007, 12:04:14 PM
^lol so people spend money on itunes rather than sending songs to each other for FREE. they thinkin of the money!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 10, 2007, 12:06:33 PM
^lol so people spend money on itunes rather than sending songs to each other for FREE. they thinkin of the money!

you're right...it's apple lol +1
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 10, 2007, 12:09:46 PM
bluetooth doesn't work? so no wireless headsets? WEAK
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Paul on September 10, 2007, 12:11:09 PM
i have a samsung u600
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on September 10, 2007, 12:12:19 PM
^lol so people spend money on itunes rather than sending songs to each other for FREE. they thinkin of the money!

Hate this I exchange files with other cell phones and computers all the time.
Tony; it got bluetooth,but you can't exchange files,you can only use it with a bluetooth handsfree.

hopefully once the thing is fully hacked they'll enable file transfer. verizon does the same thing with their phones.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 10, 2007, 01:03:20 PM
^lol so people spend money on itunes rather than sending songs to each other for FREE. they thinkin of the money!

Hate this I exchange files with other cell phones and computers all the time.
Tony; it got bluetooth,but you can't exchange files,you can only use it with a bluetooth handsfree.

hopefully once the thing is fully hacked they'll enable file transfer. verizon does the same thing with their phones.

So ej.rizo any luck with disabling the bluetooth block?

BTW,I have modified ALL the youtube links,so now you just got to press play.
There's video presentation/review/preview for most of the phone's I posted.(go to the previous pages)

dope shit! props!  8) no need to go anywhere else for mobile phones info now!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 01:53:46 PM
^lol so people spend money on itunes rather than sending songs to each other for FREE. they thinkin of the money!

Hate this I exchange files with other cell phones and computers all the time.
Tony; it got bluetooth,but you can't exchange files,you can only use it with a bluetooth handsfree.

hopefully once the thing is fully hacked they'll enable file transfer. verizon does the same thing with their phones.

So ej.rizo any luck with disabling the bluetooth block?

BTW,I have modified ALL the youtube links,so now you just got to press play.
There's video presentation/review/preview for most of the phone's I posted.(go to the previous pages)

acctually the iPhone DOES have bluetooth... but its simply for Bluetooth ear pieces..

but i have installed all kinds of stuff on my phone and have enabled ssh so i can install stuff and take out stuff from my phone including native applications (we arent talkin java here) and other things over WiFi through a SFTP connection straight to the phone... works GREAT!... i have my phone hacked crazy
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 02:35:53 PM
here are some screen shots from my iphone....  of some apps including the NES emulator, a IRC program, some games, and so forth that are all runing natively on the phone at great speeds, all these are 3rd party apps... and also notice my home screen is very different from what apple has ... also all hacked up... along with being able to take screen shots thats another app... lots of apps are being released and its still young... so i expect some crazy shit later on... if apple doesnt open it up... the hackers will... and the hackers are already going all out...

(http://images.apple.com/home/2007/images/ipod_hero_iphone_20070905.jpg)

notice all the icons on my home screen... and the dock at the bottom is also different and so is the background obviously not just black...

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo3.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo1.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo2.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo4.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo5.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo6.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 10, 2007, 02:44:30 PM
you're n.e.s emulator is off the hook,so cool!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on September 10, 2007, 03:08:02 PM
Japan isn't the only country with TV on mobiles...all the kids in South korea are watching tv on the tube these days. South korea and japan are at the same level. SK got LG, Samsung and JP have Sony.

I don't know where'd i'd be without 3G, you guys are really missing out on it. you guys don't even have the hsdpa date cards for note books. What a shame. I love hittin the net whilst i'm stuck on the M25 or on the train back home after work.

Believe me, when 3g finally starts getting coverage in america, you guys will love it.

Oh yeah, Motorola's and Nokia's are the worst phones on the market. No one makes phones like Samsung or Sony eric. Nokia are just cheap and look nasty and moto's have very limited features

pz

ps. just to emphasize the fact....iphones are shit aswell
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 03:11:25 PM
here is another pic with a aim app.. and one with google maps app

google maps comes standard with the phone.. .but it is such a great app.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo7.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d144/ejrizo/photo8.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 10, 2007, 05:08:09 PM
^lol so people spend money on itunes rather than sending songs to each other for FREE. they thinkin of the money!

I hate this,I exchange files with other cell phones and computers all the time.
Tony; it got bluetooth,but you can't exchange files,you can only use it with a bluetooth handsfree.

hopefully once the thing is fully hacked they'll enable file transfer. verizon does the same thing with their phones.

So ej.rizo any luck with disabling the bluetooth block?

BTW,I have modified ALL the youtube links,so now you just got to press play.
There's video presentation/review/preview for most of the phone's I posted.(go to the previous pages)

acctually the iPhone DOES have bluetooth... but its simply for Bluetooth ear pieces..

but i have installed all kinds of stuff on my phone and have enabled ssh so i can install stuff and take out stuff from my phone including native applications (we arent talkin java here) and other things over WiFi through a SFTP connection straight to the phone... works GREAT!... i have my phone hacked crazy


Let´s start here;
Quote
QUOTE 1; From Raide;
Tony; it got bluetooth,but you can't exchange files,you can only use it with a bluetooth handsfree.

As you can read,I know that Iphone got Bluetooth,but you can´t exchange files.

Quote
QUOTE 2; From Raide
So ej.rizo any luck with disabling the bluetooth block?

So I ask you again,any luck with ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Next issue,you know what a "smartphone" is right?

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Smartphone;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

A smartphone is a full-featured mobile phone with personal computer like functionality. Most smartphones are cellphones that support full featured email capabilities with the functionality of a complete personal organizer.

An important feature of most smartphones is that applications for enhanced data processing and connectivity can be installed on the device,[1] in contrast to regular phones which support sandboxed applications.
These applications may be developed by the manufacturer of the device, by the operator or by any other third-party software developer.


Smartphone features tend to include Internet access, e-mail access, scheduling software, built-in camera, contact management, accelerometers and some navigation software as well as occasionally the ability to read business documents in a variety of formats such as PDF and Microsoft Office.




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Operating Systems
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

The most common operating systems (OS) used in smartphones are:
Symbian OS from Symbian Ltd. (72.4% Market Share)
Symbian has the largest share in most markets worldwide, but lags other companies in the relatively small but highly visible North American market.[7] This matches the success of its largest shareholder[8] and customer, Nokia, in all markets except Japan. Nokia itself enjoys 44.5% of the smartphone market.[9] In Japan Symbian is strong due to a relationship with NTT DoCoMo, with only one of the 44 Symbian handsets released in Japan coming from Nokia.[10] It is used by all the major handset manufacturers,including
-Nokia
-Sony Ericsson
-Motorola
-Samsung
-LG and
-BenQ.
It has received some adverse press attention due to virus threats (actually trojan horses).[12]

Symbian is currently owned by Nokia (47.9%), Ericsson (15.6%)+Sony Ericsson (13.1%)=28.7%, Panasonic (10.5%), Siemens AG (8.4%) and Samsung (4.5%). While BenQ has acquired the mobile phone subsidiary of Siemens AG the Siemens AG stake in Symbian does not automatically pass to BenQ - this will need the approval of the Symbian Supervisory Board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_OS
www.symbian.com


Windows Mobile from Microsoft (6.1% Market Share)
Windows CE operating system along with Windows Mobile middleware are widely spread in Asia. The two improved variants of this operating system, Windows Mobile 6 Professional (for touch screen devices) and Windows Mobile 6 Standard were unveiled February 2007 and in the first half of 2008 respectively.


RIM BlackBerry operating system (5.3% Market Share)
This OS is focused on easy operation and was originally designed for business. Recently it has seen a surge in third party applications and has been improved to offer full multimedia support.


Linux operating system (13.3% Market Share)
Linux is strongest in China where it is used by Motorola,[13] and in Japan, used by DoCoMo.[14] Rather than being a platform in its own right, Linux is used as a basis for a number of different platforms developed by several vendors, including Motorola and TrollTech, which are mostly incompatible.[15][16] PalmSource (now Access) is moving towards an interface running on Linux.
Another platform based on Linux is being developed by
-Motorola
-NEC
-NTT DoCoMo
-Panasonic
-Samsung and
-Vodafone.


Palm OS developed by PalmSource (now a subsidiary of ACCESS). (1.6% Market Share)
PalmSource traditionally used its own platform developed by Palm Inc. Access Linux Platform (ALP) is an improvement that is planned to be launched in the first half of 2007. It will use technical specifications from the Linux Phone Standards Forum. The Access Linux Platform will include an emulation layer to support applications developed for Palm-based devices.


Mac OS X from Apple, Inc. (1.3% Market Share)
The iPhone uses an operating system derived from Mac OS X. Note that Apple and AT&T do not currently allow third party programs to be installed onto iPhones.
Officially, developers can only write applications for the iPhone by creating a web service that can be accessed via the included web browser. However, some have reported being able to install applications onto the iPhone via unofficial methods.

Market Share data from Canalys report "Worldwide smart mobile device market, Canalys Q2 2007

So that means that for example phones like me and Tony use that run
Symbian OS can install 3rd party software and has been able to do so for years.
...simple JAVA applications ain´t that bad,so don´t make a big deal about that.
If you want to check what 3rd party applications that available for Symbian and Windows Mobile;
Symbian;
http://allaboutsymbian.com/software/
www.getjar.com/software/Symbian
www.freesymbiansoft.com/
www.getsymbian.com/
www.handango.com/SoftwareCatalog. jsp?siteId=1&N=7&platformId=4
Windows Mobile;
www.mobiletopsoft.com/pocket-pc/
windows-mobile-software.handster.com/






...and here is a definition for the infamous simple JAVA applications;
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sandbox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_(computer_security)

In computer security, a sandbox is a security mechanism for safely running programs. It is often used to execute untested code, or programs from unverified third-parties, suppliers and untrusted users.

The sandbox typically provides a tightly-controlled set of resources for guest programs to run in, such as scratch space on disk and memory. Network access, the ability to inspect the host system or read from input devices is usually disallowed or heavily restricted. In this sense, sandboxes are a specific example of virtualization


So yes a "dum/normal" phone is "Sandboxed",meaning closed.
The applications is small and don´t "intergrate" with the UI.
So for example phones running the A100 or the S40 OS is "closed".



So over to the Nes Emulator;

Symbian S60 OS
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2006/02/donkeykong.jpg)
(http://www.cellphone9.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/fig_07.gif)

Well now to big deal,can you hook your phone up to the TV?,no?
Well,what about bringing movies,games and what not and hook it to a TV at your choice?
....and use the phone as remote control/joystick. Check the video out,crazy shit.

vNes Review on Nokia N93 w/firmaware v 20.0.058
http://www.youtube.com/v/rIS1c9o7QZ4












Then Google Maps,phhhh,that shit has been available for years.
We´re talking GPS here,and yes the application is coming with the phone.


GPS on Nokia N95 that runs Symbian S60 3.1 feature pack 1;
http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2007/04/20/1177074242723_774.jpg
(http://www.gpskoll.se/wp-content/uploads/nokia_n95.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Y42aF0zxRc


GPS on HTC P3300 that runs Windows Mobile 5(can be upgraded to WM6)
comes with www.tomtom.com software for the GPS
(http://www.topman.ru/wcmfiles/htc_p3300.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/B40WVHAVq_4




There´s no intending to "smash" on you,as you should know from my previous posts.
I with you on your whole "intergrating" thing.
But it´s ok the get facts straight,both ways. No need for hating or favorising. :D


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 10, 2007, 05:35:37 PM
Japan isn't the only country with TV on mobiles...all the kids in South korea are watching tv on the tube these days. South korea and japan are at the same level. SK got LG, Samsung and JP have Sony.

I don't know where'd i'd be without 3G, you guys are really missing out on it. you guys don't even have the hsdpa date cards for note books. What a shame. I love hittin the net whilst i'm stuck on the M25 or on the train back home after work.

Believe me, when 3g finally starts getting coverage in america, you guys will love it.

Oh yeah, Motorola's and Nokia's are the worst phones on the market. No one makes phones like Samsung or Sony eric. Nokia are just cheap and look nasty and moto's have very limited features

pz

ps. just to emphasize the fact....iphones are shit aswell


-Sorry for not including South Korea. I´m sure all of us is aware that they´re way ahead of us.  :D
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Here´s a couple of cell phones WITH TV,remember they work ONLY in Japan AND South Korea Fixed
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/03/0301_mobiletv/image/opener.jpg)


Oh yeah, Motorola's and Nokia's are the worst phones on the market.
No one makes phones like Samsung or Sony Ericsson.
Nokia are just cheap and look nasty and moto's have very limited features.
ps. just to emphasize the fact....iphones are shit aswell


This can be somewhat true,but any source for this or is it a biased statement?
read the conclusion in the end of the post.



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Mass production faults
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/nokia-n76-problems-en.shtml


Mass production of mobile phones and the never-ending struggle for cost reduction occasionally result in some sort of defects, which keep low profile up to the release date, passed unnoticed by both testers and distributors. Sometimes, the synergy effect brought about by various factors may seem bizarre, but the fact is, even color scheme can affect reliability. Say, the recent story with the Sony Ericsson S500i, probably, would be the best example of that. All units coming in green tend to get their keys cracked 2-3 weeks into use, for the plastic can’t stand the strain. Surprisingly, all yellow-colored handsets never had such issues. We posted a message on the Sony Ericsson S500i’s defect in the VIP Lounge, a private section of our forum, where one of the explanations was the design of the keys themselves. But it was just recently when we learned that the green paint reacted with the adhesive used for sticking the buttons onto the casing. This way, because of the chemical reaction the base of the keys simply dissolved. At the same time, the yellow edition is free of such defects. Thankfully, only a few shipments of these phones have made it to Russia, and you can easily identify them by production date – assembled before week 27 of this year. This case is covered by the warranty, meaning that you can easily get the keypad changed in any service centre.


All companies having a wide array of models in their portfolios and large-scale production, as the probability theory puts it, are bound to suffer from faulty units more than anyone else. And they actually always do – the highlight of this article, Nokia occasionally runs into issues that were not revealed during the early stages of proof testing. They have much to do with faulty parts supplied to factories, or a crudely programmed production line. The first example coming to my mind is the story with the Nokia 8210 and the Nokia 3310, where the displays malfunctioned so often that the users literally queued up before service centers. Back then the company didn’t manage to provide the service centers with new displays, which resulted in huge lines of users waiting for their handsets to be repaired (in some regions of Russia it was the matter of months). It is important to realize that the service and customer care front was on a completely different level. Also, the story with a misadjusted automatic machine that hit the Nokia 6230 hard – its protective covers burned out, turning black, which allowed some service centers to reject maintenance claims. In this situation our intervention made the company publish a service bulletin and acknowledge this blackening as a non warranty-repair cancelling factor.

Last year, Nokia experienced no global issue with the quality of their handsets. Undoubtedly, every model had some flaws, but the way they were treated greatly depended on personal loyalty to the brand – many refused to spot the Nokia N71’s peeling-off edging, which was in fact a defect of the design. The number of flaws has varied from handset to handset, but it wouldn’t be right to claim that some device had a hundred percent faulty shipments. However, the Russian market saw an exception in the form of the Nseries models, which couldn’t tap into GPRS within MTS, Beeline, occasionally Megafon networks, though the latter almost didn’t experience such difficulties. The crux of the matter was the software installed on these handsets, which was tailored to more contemporary networks, rather than some custom variations offered by the Russian carriers. Another victim of this issue was Samsung and its flagship solution, the Samsung D600. Unfortunately the carriers’ unwillingness to upgrade their networks to meet the standards adds an element of chance into the equation. For example, at the moment all service centers across the country are upgrading firmware of absolutely new and still shining Nokia 6120 because of the same GPRS-Internet issues. It is not a rare occasion when a vendor like Nokia can’t physically provide a logistics network for a separate, albeit big, country, so as to develop bespoke software versions. That’s why all distributors are down to hand all received phones to service centers for free firmware flashing.

The stimuli that has brought this article here is the avalanche of messages suggesting the Nokia N76 has a casing especially exposed to wear and tear. The silver coating peels off to unsheathe bare plastic, so the handset loses its salable condition in no time. For something that costs 500-550 Euro (in Russia), this is a disgrace. Nevertheless, we have decided not to shoot from the hip and look into the roots of the problem, collect statistics on returns, learn about the reaction of service centers, distributors and the vendor himself.

One of our readers lent us his unit that had lost its charm in two weeks’ time. In the photos below you can see how worn the chrome plates have become, as well as the edge, so now the black chassis is on the surface. This holds true both for red and black editions of the N76 – the only difference is that the red-colored units tend to lose pieces of paint all round the casing, while the owners of the latter variant won’t experience this issue.


Last week Nokia’s service centers received a bulletin with a rundown of the problem, stating that this case is covered by the warranty and replacement of faulty parts should be free of charge. As of today, there are loads of spare parts available, so no shortage is expected in the near term. So, is this a really wide-spread disease, or all we do now is making a mountain out of a molehill?

According to our sources, this defect applies to nearly all Nokia N76 produced up until this day, and it has much to do with faulty parts supplied to the manufacturer, however the worst thing about it is that the spare parts delivered to service centers are no different. This means, that servicing your unit will merely bring you a temporal relief. In light of this fact, some European carriers have already discarded the model, specifically, the N76 is no longer available for purchase in the UK from Vodafone, as they took it off all price-lists on June 20 – no official statements have been made by the carrier as yet. But the rumor has it that Vodafone has returned all unsold units to the vendor – this point of view is explained here.

What does this mean to Nokia? Being one of the NSeries flagships, the N76 is currently promoted on the market at full tilt – in most regions, including Russia, the company runs with aggressive outdoor ads, you can see commercials on TV, learn about the handset from radio broadcasts. Basically, the phone is all around.

Have these advertising activities boosted the sales of the N76? Make no mistake about that. In Russia they sell not less than 4 thousand units a month (MRG data, July, 2007), which is a decent figure for this type of handset. As the advertising campaign heats up, the sales will at least double, which brings about a dangerous case. Who normally goes for these phones? Women – with fistful of cash, own mentality and style, those who have got used to a certain level of quality. For the most part, this audience is loyal to Nokia and recognizes it as a manufacturer of top-notch gadgets.

What happens when you get paint-related issues or reveal other defects – we will focus on this a bit later. But for now, what the first reaction to this will be? Obviously, the owner will come to a conclusion that Nokia’s quality is no longer as superb as it used to be, so he or she might consider switching to some different brand, morphing from a loyal consumer into the opposite category. Being unofficial “opinion leaders”, these people might also have a negative impact on Nokia’s image. However it won’t be the end of the world – previously the Nokia 8210 was in similar distress with its faulty display, but back then the vendor easily made it through. You shouldn’t dramatize the situation – after all, it is not the whole company, it is one single model. The tricky aspect here is that the N76 is a relatively popular and aggressively advertised offering.

Withdrawing this device from the market would be an unbearable price for the vendor to pay – rectifying this issue in service centers is way cheaper. The company’s reputation will take no fatal blows – Nokia has already suffered from this defect to a certain extent – what is really important to do is prevent similar cases from breaking out across the company’s portfolio.

We rarely recommend our readers to refrain from buying some handsets, however in the case with the Nokia N76, these flaws apply to all units, and what is more, there are no non-defective parts available in service centers. That’s why there isn’t much sense in picking this phone, unless you are willing to get over its decaying looks (which is the foundation of any fashion phone).

We also went to service centers to find out what problems the Nokia N76 had and what the main warranty claims were. And the figures we got for July were quite interesting – although this statistics is by no means representative or covers all regions, but the diagram below does give some clues on what’s going on.


As you can see, the casing quality is by far not the most crucial defect. However, this doesn’t automatically mean it is non-existent – the fact of the matter is that faulty handsets normally arrive at service centers a tad later and since the Nokia N76 started shipping early in June, many units with this flaw haven’t been reported as yet. The statistics is also interfered by other defects typical for all models – displays, software, which are pretty much par for the course. But what is really important here, is the share of plastic-related issues, indirectly indicating the mass character of this defect.

We asked the Russian headquarters of Nokia to shed some light on the situation. Maxim Pavlov, Nokia’s Service Manager in CIS countries, comments: «We are aware of the issues with certain casing components in the Nokia N76. All authorized Nokia’s service centers have been notified that the warranty does cover this defect of the Nokia N76. Nokia is seriously concerned about the quality of own products and we are doing everything possible to improve the situation around the Nokia N76. All service centers have enough details at their disposal, so the repair time will be minimal».

We, on our part, decided to examine the reaction of retailers. Most distributors have already come across returns of the N76, but unlike the service centers they haven’t been notified by Nokia. As the result the market is still confused about this issue. In the vast majority of retail networks you can replace a faulty unit within two weeks, given that you have an opinion letter from a service center stating that the defects you have encountered stem from the production flaws. Many retailers meet consumers halfway and replace their units without a letter from a service center (but give refunds very rarely). Regrettably, the service centers usually refuse to give opinion letters reasoning that with lack of experience, obscure forms etc. – but in fact, this is a direct violation of the law and you can insist on getting a letter, should a conflict situation arise, to get your money back from the retailer you bought the unit from (which is possible with this letter in hands).

For example, one of M-Video stores features both a brand-new Nokia N76 and a returned unit with paint defects, whose price tag has dropped all the way down to 350 USD (against 760 USD for a new device).

These are phone´s they talk about,so stay away from them;

Nokia N76
(http://www.interstar.ua/mobile/img/phones/nokia_n76_add_54.jpg)
Nokia 8310
(http://imgs.idnes.cz/telefony/A020823_NOKIA8310DARKANDHOT_N.JPG)
SE S500
(http://www.kaosproject.be/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/s500i.jpg)


Conclusion;

None of the vendors can possibly avoid flaw in production cycles. Unfortunately, Nokia ran into them with one of its key offerings. In our opinion, being aware of such flaws you should refrain from buying this device; or, in case you already own one, wait about 3-6 months until defect-free spare parts arrive and only then call at the nearest service center. Although this is a very rough time span, taking account of mass returns in all regions and lack of high-quality parts there days, it is unlikely that Nokia will be able to sort it out faster. And if you can’t stand waiting, then you can easily return your unit, replace it, or get a refund.

P.S. P.S. Nobody is perfect, therefore this global issue with the Nokia N76 is not the reason to stand up and proclaim that all Nokia-branded handsets retain similar problems. Please, be more reasonable in your judgments.


For more info;
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/brak-in-phones-en.shtml






Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 11:06:14 PM
replying to your post above...


first of all you are telling me things i knew about my phone since way before i bought it...

i knew it didnt have GPS, i knew it was "CLOSED", i knew that there was other phones out there that do these things.....

i still purchased a iPhone...

so there is no smashing when i didnt want what they offered and i wanted what i purchased...

no one has put together a package as great as apple has (personal opinion)... they have truly put together a ipod, phone, internet, camera etc. all APPLE style.

simple, integrated, and BEAUTIFUL.

like i said before features are not necessarily what makes a product...they are good but not always the best... just look at the ipod... people love it because its simple and easy to use and beautiful without having to try to learn all the features that are half assed put on.

and my reason for the post with all my apps and pictures was for informative purposes.. not to hate or smash on anything.. simply to show the people on this board about it...  just like you have posted countless other phones above with videos and screen shots and information... im just doing it first hand as a owner of the device rather than just reading off some specs and pulling some videos.. i made my own screen shots and put the stuff i have on my phone... That im perfectly happy with...

and here is a video showing some of the features... and showing just how simple and seamless everything is...

everyone has opinions but they dont mean a thing... what matters is that you are happy with your device and it does what you want/need.

and the whole it having bluetooth comment was directed at someone else who was  commenting that "no bluetooth or earpieces" or to that extent... just so they are not mis informed...

and no bluetooh transfers but like i was saying there is WiFi transfers... which is a great workaround... thats how i access all the files and stuff on my phone.

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 11:29:36 PM
I'm fully aware why you bought a Iphone and I respect that,you made that clear for me in the previous thread. I NEVER at any point took your comments personal,as I said a million times now,it's a give and take situation (features VS user friendly UI),u took your pick I took mine.
So u can transfer files to another phone over wifi? hmmm,,,
As for posting videos,I have actually owned a gang of them,so I HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE with most of them
no way to tranfer from phone to phone that i know of at this point.... but computer to phone instead of bluetooth i use wifi which i acctually prefer rather than bluetooth... phone to phone only workaround at this point would be attaching files to an email.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 10, 2007, 11:52:37 PM
-yep there it is,the answer I was waiting for.
Let us know when you managed to disable the block.
-I also know that you have first hand experience with lots of phone's so I respect all your comments.
-All I'm trying to say is that there's lots of dope phones out there.
-I have owned smart phones with Symbian UIQ & S60 OS+"dum" phones with A100 & S40. Had Windows Mobile 5,both standard&profesional UI for test a couple of weeks.
So I know them well
curious... what do you currently own?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 11, 2007, 01:26:32 AM
i aint smashing on no one,i just like to talk about mobile phone cuz i love them! it's all good homies! +1 to all the dubcc mobile maniacs and props again to everyone who brought info to this thread!

p.s : i almost forgot : DONT BUY A NOKIA N76 IT'S CRAP!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on September 11, 2007, 08:59:05 AM
''like i said before features are not necessarily what makes a product...they are good but not always the best... just look at the ipod... people love it because its simple and easy to use and beautiful without having to try to learn all the features that are half assed put on.''

correction... 75% of people buy an ipod because they actually think it is the only mp3/mp4 player out there. When i show what i have, people ask me ''what is that, is it an ipod'', most people don't actually know that mp3 players were out before ipod's were released.
 
  Everyone who knows about PMP's know that the Archos 605 or 705 is the best thing out at the moment.

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 11, 2007, 09:38:48 AM
''like i said before features are not necessarily what makes a product...they are good but not always the best... just look at the ipod... people love it because its simple and easy to use and beautiful without having to try to learn all the features that are half assed put on.''

correction... 75% of people buy an ipod because they actually think it is the only mp3/mp4 player out there. When i show what i have, people ask me ''what is that, is it an ipod'', most people don't actually know that mp3 players were out before ipod's were released.
 
  Everyone who knows about PMP's know that the Archos 605 or 705 is the best thing out at the moment.


i agree with you with the fact that.. people think that any MP3/Portable Media Player is an "iPod" but thats just like "Kleenex" and "Xerox" machines or even "Q-tips"... i know people that have non apple mp3 players and they are like yeah check out my "iPod" and it will be something like a creative zen or something...

doesnt mean people didnt jump on the ipod originally when no one knew whats up and it still blew up because of the  userfriendly product but alot of it is just hype now but still its roots came from its inovation in the game at the time
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 11, 2007, 10:24:31 AM
replying to your post above...


first of all you are telling me things i knew about my phone since way before i bought it...

i knew it didnt have GPS, i knew it was "CLOSED", i knew that there was other phones out there that do these things.....

i still purchased a iPhone...

so there is no smashing when i didnt want what they offered and i wanted what i purchased...

no one has put together a package as great as apple has (personal opinion)... they have truly put together a ipod, phone, internet, camera etc. all APPLE style.

simple, integrated, and BEAUTIFUL.

like i said before features are not necessarily what makes a product...they are good but not always the best... just look at the ipod... people love it because its simple and easy to use and beautiful without having to try to learn all the features that are half assed put on.

and my reason for the post with all my apps and pictures was for informative purposes.. not to hate or smash on anything.. simply to show the people on this board about it...  just like you have posted countless other phones above with videos and screen shots and information... im just doing it first hand as a owner of the device rather than just reading off some specs and pulling some videos.. i made my own screen shots and put the stuff i have on my phone... That im perfectly happy with...

and here is a video showing some of the features... and showing just how simple and seamless everything is...

everyone has opinions but they dont mean a thing... what matters is that you are happy with your device and it does what you want/need.

and the whole it having bluetooth comment was directed at someone else who was  commenting that "no bluetooth or earpieces" or to that extent... just so they are not mis informed...

and no bluetooh transfers but like i was saying there is WiFi transfers... which is a great workaround... thats how i access all the files and stuff on my phone.




I'm fully aware why you bought a Iphone and I respect that,you made that clear for me in the previous thread. I never at any point took your comments personal,as I said a million times now,
it's a give and take situation (features VS user friendly UI),you took your pick I took mine.
So u can transfer files to another phone over wifi? hmmm,,,
As for posting videos,I have actually owned a gang of them,
so I HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE with most of them[/font]
no way to tranfer from phone to phone that i know of at this point.... but computer to phone instead of bluetooth i use wifi which i acctually prefer rather than bluetooth... phone to phone only workaround at this point would be attaching files to an email.


-yep there it is,the answer I was waiting for.
Let us know when you managed to disable the block.
-I also know that you have first hand experience with lots of phone's so I respect all your comments.
-All I'm trying to say is that there's lots of dope phones out there.
-I have owned smart phones with Symbian UIQ & S60 OS + "dum" phones with A100 and S40.
Had Windows Mobile 5,both standard and profesional UI for test a couple of weeks.
So I know them well

curious... what do you currently own?


I currently own a Nokia N95 that runs Symbian S60 3.1 feature pack 1;
(http://www.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/mobiles/nokia_n95.jpg)
(http://www.gpskoll.se/wp-content/uploads/nokia_n95.jpg)
N95 VS Iphone
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1133/722687870_727d4f3e3b_m.jpg)
N95 Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Y42aF0zxRc

....and a SE K750as a backup phone,runs A100 OS which is "closed"
(http://www.myworldphone.com/L420-7208-callout01%5B1%5D.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/F7Sjnxkl71s

I had a SE P990 up until a couple of months ago,runs Symbian UIQ 3.0;
(http://digital-lifestyles.info/copy_images/sony-ericsson-p990-lg1.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/cGhDVzb3Abs&autoplay=0

I used smartphones since Motorola Accompli 008 as you it got touchscreen.
(http://katalogmobilu.cz/img/motorola-accompli-008-3.jpg)

I followed iup with SE P800 which runs Symbian UIQ 2.0 another touch screen phone
(http://www.exmobile.ru/pics/916_1.jpg)

....and the list goes on with a couple of more SE phones pluss some Nokia´s.
So yes I have first hand experince


i aint smashing on no one,i just like to talk about mobile phone cuz i love them! it's all good homies! +1 to all the dubcc mobile maniacs and props again to everyone who brought info to this thread!

p.s : i almost forgot : DONT BUY A NOKIA N76 IT'S CRAP!
(http://www.mobime.ru/var/news/2007/01/08/05_n76_hires.jpg)


Tony you have brought nothing but positive vibes in here. :cow:
The thread it self started of kinda wrong look at the subject headline;
My phone > iPhone  ;D
So I understand EJ.Rizo being "defensive",but it´s ironic that the thread starter got plans to buy a Iphone since it dropped 200$ and K.Dub that "complained" that the Iphone don´t have 3G,has disabled his 3G connection because it drains his battery.
I´m just a "fan" of cell phone´s in general and I´m not brand loyal.
I like to talk about cell phones in general and I enjoy helping you all out.
I carefully study the product before purchase,just like EJ.Rizo I was very aware about what my current phone N95 could and couldn´t do. Like I said before it´s give and take sitiation.
No need to repeat it anymore,EJ.Rizo if you want more info about these phones go to the previous pages,for reviews and what not.


Well let´s continue this and keep it positive.
EJ Rizo I´m very interested what you have accomplished with your phone as far 3rd party software etc.
So keep on,with video´s if possible.


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 11, 2007, 08:50:04 PM
the iphone just got unlocked  :o
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 12, 2007, 01:02:45 AM
has any one seen the new nokia n81 8 gig ? look like a good phone it says that it will compete against the iphone. price range will be around 600$ they said source : http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9767460-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 heres a couple pictures for y'all

(http://news.com.com/i/bto/20070828/Nokia_N81_8GB_3_270x165.jpg)

(http://www.xonio.com/ii/121198125_b9d5accb32.jpg)

(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070829/i/r2945839105.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 12, 2007, 11:27:02 AM
has any one seen the new nokia n81 8 gig ? look like a good phone it says that it will compete against the iphone. price range will be around 600$ they said source :
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9767460-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
heres a couple pictures for y'all;

N81
(http://news.com.com/i/bto/20070828/Nokia_N81_8GB_3_270x165.jpg)
(http://www.xonio.com/ii/121198125_b9d5accb32.jpg)
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070829/i/r2945839105.jpg)

New Nokia N81 in action! Nice Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/2dZ5krLWcq4


Yep,seen it. Seems like a "budget" 8GB multi media phone.
It looks nice and all,but it kind of falt in the shadow of the upgraded N95 with 8GB that will drop around the same time;

N95 with 8GB
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/nokia/nokia-n95-8gb/nokia-n95-8gb-combo.jpg)

But both Nokia and SE has already a couple og harddisk phone´s on the marked;

N91 with 8GB
(http://www.topwords.com.ua/Mobilnews/katalog/images/nokiaimages/n91.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/OGQ0K7f2pvQ&autoplay=0

SE W950 with 4GB
http://www.youtube.com/v/BL5XAyVeL2s

SE w960 with 8GB  Nice!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/v/SnXoP6GP3sY
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 12, 2007, 01:27:41 PM
i didnt know that nokia had planned a 8gig n95! i hope they put more battery power! it's amazing to see with time how mobile evolved! y'all remember this?
 (http://stuff.gbsfm.info/Pics/brick_phone.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 12, 2007, 03:23:56 PM
the iphone just got unlocked  :o

In retail store´s or "hacked" online solutions?

Do it yourself;
www.iphonesimfree.com
www.freeiphoneunlock.com

iPhone SIM Free Software Unlock Confirmed on Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/ER9eM2E9Lzo


nah there is a do it yourself version that you dont have to pay for... the version you see will be sold... hackers have done it with there own tools for free for anyone...

check this out...

http://modmyiphone.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_software_unlock_iPhone_iUnlock

and there are more sites up as well explaining how to do it...

one of the sites said it plans to have this set up in a nice GUI so its all automated... so im waiting for that route before i do anything since i have it running on the att network now... so i dont need it but it would be nice since t-mobile is cheaper and i get better service from them at work than i do with att.. but im not breaking my contract and doing this if this gets blocked... so i got to wait and see... but good news for people wanting and iphone and dont want to switch carriers and for other people outside of the united states trying to use it on their networks

edit http://www.freeiphoneunlock.com/unlock/ shit alot has happen since i last read up on it... iphonesimfree and freeiphoneunlock are 2 different things tho... alot people think that iphonesimfree was a scam they were trying to sell it while freeiphoneunlock and all the other sites are just doing it for free
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 12, 2007, 05:08:21 PM
Here´s some facts to compare the phone´s

This piece here say what I have said all the time and this comes from a Symbian site;
www.allaboutsymbian.com
(http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/f2f.jpg)
Take your pick;

(http://www.psycho-central.com/index_files/page1_blog_entry40_3.png)
(http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/iphone-competitive2.gif)
(http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/1F63BA62-EFB7-4127-86E0-54685FBEA8E4_files/smartphones.png)
(http://www-personal.umich.edu/~saha/MyTwoCents/iPhone/Images/SmartPhoneProductMatrix2007Jun30.png)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on September 13, 2007, 05:20:22 AM
the iphone isn't a smart phone, so why's it there?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 13, 2007, 11:06:57 AM
the sanyo phone is cool
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: 3331 on September 13, 2007, 12:12:18 PM
anybody have any suggestions for a good for phone me?

i want an iphone but i'm def not paying 400 dollars for a phone. i just want something that's gotta pretty big harddrive or whatever for music and has a camera... oh and reasonable priced and good for what i'm paying.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Don Jacob on September 13, 2007, 12:28:26 PM
just buy a phone that you can put a memory card in and buy a 2 gb card at target or wal mart or something.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 13, 2007, 12:30:06 PM
the iphone just got unlocked  :o

In retail store´s or "hacked" online solutions?

Do it yourself;
www.iphonesimfree.com
iPhone SIM Free Software Unlock Confirmed on Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/ER9eM2E9Lzo

Free link;
www.freeiphoneunlock.com
(http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/09/05/aussieiphoneunlock_wideweb__470x268,0.jpg)


nah there is a do it yourself version that you dont have to pay for... the version you see will be sold... hackers have done it with there own tools for free for anyone...

check this out...

http://modmyiphone.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_software_unlock_iPhone_iUnlock

and there are more sites up as well explaining how to do it...

one of the sites said it plans to have this set up in a nice GUI so its all automated... so im waiting for that route before i do anything since i have it running on the att network now... so i dont need it but it would be nice since t-mobile is cheaper and i get better service from them at work than i do with att.. but im not breaking my contract and doing this if this gets blocked... so i got to wait and see... but good news for people wanting and iphone and dont want to switch carriers and for other people outside of the united states trying to use it on their networks

edit http://www.freeiphoneunlock.com/unlock/ shit alot has happen since i last read up on it... iphonesimfree and freeiphoneunlock are 2 different things tho... alot people think that iphonesimfree was a scam they were trying to sell it while freeiphoneunlock and all the other sites are just doing it for free

If you didn't notice it I posted a "automatic" link;
www.iphonesimfree.com that you have to pay for
and one of the free links;
www.freeiphoneunlock.com
Anyways it's good news,,,
Damn so much hype for a phone,it's crazy... ha,ha
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 13, 2007, 01:00:45 PM
the sanyo phone is cool

You´re talking about this one right?

Quote
Sanyo M1
(http://z.about.com/d/cellphones/1/0/f/D/5/sanyo-m1-g.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/Q_OsooZsfgA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OsooZsfgA
http://www.finalsense.com/news/it/phone/sanyo_m1.htm
Sprint today announced the full-channel availability of the Sanyo M1, Sprint's first phone with 1GB of internal memory. Able to offer storage for up to 16 hours of music and other multimedia files including pictures, video clips and voice recording, the M1 also provides quick and easy access to Sprint-exclusive content, including:


- Sprint Music Store, which allows users to browse and wirelessly download full-length songs directly to their phone


- Sprint TV with more than 50 channels of television and on-demand video and audio including more than 20 channels offering live content


- NFL Mobile, a Sprint-exclusive wireless application that brings fans access to same-day video highlights, customizable real-time statistics, scores, injury reports and other information updated every two seconds


- Sprint Movies, the first "pay-per-view" service for mobile phones in the U.S. that streams full-length movies, including recent box-office hits and timeless favorites from Buena Vista VOD, Lionsgate, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment and Universal Pictures


- Sprint Power View, the industry's first made-for-mobile sports and entertainment video programming network

The M1's advanced power management offers up to 18 hours of continuous music-playing time to support extended use of the multimedia capabilities. Additional key features include stereo Bluetooth wireless technology, a 2.0-megapixel camera with auto-focus, nine equalizer settings for fine-tuning the listening experience, and background music mode for listening to music while checking email, surfing the Web or sending text messages. The M1 also has external controls and large external LCD for optimal usability.

The Sanyo M1 is available through all Sprint retail channels for a suggested retail price of $349.99 or $199.99 with a two-year subscriber agreement.

 

Sanyo M1 Features

* Sprint Music Store provides over-the-air downloads of high-quality full songs (MP3 and AAC / AAC+ digital files)
* Sprint TV offers more than 50 channels including live television
* 1.0 GB internal memory capacity (Stores up to 16 hours of music, or a combination of music, photos, videos, and voice recording)
* Advanced power management enables up to 16 hours of music playing
* 2.0-megapixel camera and camcorder with autofocus and flash
* Background music mode allows music play while checking email, surfing the web or sending text messages
* On Demand news, sports, weather and entertainment content
* Enhanced gaming experience with 3D Graphics
* Pre-loaded with Sprint's exclusive NFL Mobile application
* Stream music to your phone with Music Choice, Sirius Music and others
* External navigation control allows easy access to music features
* External dual 15 mm stereo speakers for stereo music playback and speakerphone
* Sprint PCS Ready Link for quick walkie-talkie-style communication
* Bluetooth enabled
* GPS enabled



....or the Sharp joint for Japan?

Quote

iPhone for Japanese - Sharp 913SH TV Phone

Sharp 913SH
(http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/en/product/3g/913sh/img/fig_h1_913sh.jpg)
(http://www.geeksquare.info/media/sharptvphone913SH1.jpg)
(http://arena.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/news/20061120/119798/12v.jpg)
http://mobiltelefon.ru/i/other/may/23/softbank_sharp_912sh_2.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/v/3yRszl8XW5U

iPhone for Japanese - Sharp 913SH TV Phone
http://www.handcellphone.com/archives/iphone-for-japanese-sharp-913sh-tv-phone

Do you think Japanese craves for iPhone like we do? Absolutely not! The cell phone in the pictures is the newly released Mobile TV phone from Sharp, the Sharp 913SH, that comes loaded with gigantic WQVGA Mobile ASV LCD (picture quality is close to HQ TV’s). The Sharp 913SH slider phone also has built-in 2.0-MP digital camera, Mp3 and Video player, and digital TV player. Although the Sharp 913SH doesn’t has cool multitouch technology of iPhone, the 913SH tv phone has features and specifications that iPhone couldn’t offer.
The Sharp 913SH TV Phone will be available in the market very soon.



Both of them is dope,the Sanyo joint works in the US


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 15, 2007, 05:49:34 AM
i ment the sharp,my bad, but the sanyo still looks cool  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: 4dgspot on September 15, 2007, 01:11:53 PM
cool
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 16, 2007, 01:03:06 AM
i got my iphone looking really damn good.. loving the new theme with new icons and brighter ones too on a suddle background

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/myiphone2.jpg)

i still have all the third party apps too just that you scroll down to see them... i like this cleaner look better... :-)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 17, 2007, 05:23:59 PM
honestly i didnt read much of what he wrote... way to much to read... but what i did read i already knew... he just tried to make it out worst than what it is... me as an owner and user it serves and exceeds my needs... i honestly think he is just a hater... does he use anything positive on these stories? i didnt see any? ... i mean you can be like well you cant sent messages to multiple parties at one time but it does have the best music player ever to be seen... or it doesnt have expandable memory but it does have 8gigs which im yet to see on any other phone or expandable memory card?


you know  what i mean... just written in hater mode... but its all good... not going to go throw a fit and toss my phone out the window because some dude post some bias info...

oh and did i mention i love my iphone?  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 17, 2007, 07:22:36 PM
the whole standard 8 gig of flash memory works perfect for me.. but i see how others can use it... but i really dont like the whole "memory card" thing they always change what kinda cards are to be used and what size and what size is supported and so forth... and usually the cards increase in memory but usually seems too late... like if i needed a certain card for my phone it usually wont reach the 8 gigs til like a year or so later...

anyway just my observation of the situation... and the iphone doesnt have any "Hard Disk" but it uses flash memory.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 17, 2007, 08:41:51 PM
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I actually prefer memory cards over hard disc/flash memory.
What happens when your phone crash? All the shit you got stored is gone...

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonebackup.jpg)

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part of the reason i love the whole apple experience... syncs perfectly ... all contacts, photos, media (music, movies...etc.), settings, web bookmarks, mail accounts etc.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 17, 2007, 08:51:16 PM
Mobile-Review hates on Iphone part 2

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SMS-messages on the iPhone
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-sms-en.shtml


The background of the iPhone review is quite thorny. After twiddling with the device even before its release date, I shaped up my personal opinion, and naturally shared it with the readers. At once an army of Apple fans shows up, claiming that when the phone arrives, it will be a whole new story with all features it didn’t have already inside. But there we no last-minute pickups.

However, it wasn’t the end of the story. Once the sales kicked off, when the market received first feedback from real owners of the handset, it had the image of a shining and blinged-out yet foot-operated spaceship. Again, the major point of the fans was “let’s grab it, wait some and then, while we are asleep, the pumpkin will turn into in a mind-blowing spaceship”. Let’s face it, it will not. And you know why? Pumpkins and spaceships can’t possibly switch their roles, so a pumpkin will stay this way, and a spaceship will be a spaceship whatever happens. Don’t accuse me of hating pumpkins – they can serve for making a tasty and healthy porridge and many other wonderful things. Unless it is a spaceship.

Apple fans have already blamed me for being loyal or bribed by Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Siemens, Samsung in some way – and it wasn’t just a one-off. It doesn’t even matter what I say about the iPhone – this “greatest” product of all time will stick to this title regardless. That’s why in a review of the “revolutionary” device, we will venture to step away from our routine (they have re-invented the cell phone, right?) and delve into each function in particular. So as to prevent anyone from calling our conclusions or the low-down on the iPhone we give in question. However, judging by my blog, the fans are not ready to embrace even the obvious flaws, countering anyone’s arguments with no-one-needs-this-anyway triads. For all cold-minded people, we are digging under the brilliant skin of the most revolutionary device on the planet. The device that happens to come with phone functions – so we are taking a plunge, and our first stop will be SMS-messages.
SMS – a standard that dies off?

As the fans of Apple believe, such standard as SMS, is now dying – that’s because the function of SMS-messaging in the iPhone is weedy, while its email options are “robust”. Nevertheless, it is more likely that the real reason is that they haven’t seen an in-depth review of the bundled mail client – otherwise they wouldn’t dare write this to me.

But let’s take an once-over of the SMS standard and see whether it is really such a hopeless standard and why. Let me venture a loaded question: what is stored in any handset's phonebook? Apparently, phone numbers and contact names. Some have more, some – less. But are email addresses about? I bet the vast majority of the users don’t have them over there. It is not even about the habit – there are some fundamental differences.

Short messages are delivered instantly, and the sender can get delivery report, which ensures that a text message has been received, so the time when the recipient reads it doesn’t make much difference.

Can an email be delivered equally fast? Yes, if it is Push Mail. Does this prove convenient for your correspondence? Undoubtedly, no. What’s the problem with this, I hear you ask?

How many SMS messages do you receive daily? Probably, several to dozens in some cases. And what about emails? A couple of dozens to hundreds, including spam. So, which message will be the top-priority to you, for it contains valuable information for sure? A short message – sent by a person you know, it is not classified as spam and requires an immediate answer (or needs to be answered some time later). This is a private message, whereas email always comprises loads of anonymous messages. Apple fans will come up with a solid counter – get a personal mail box and enjoy spam-free correspondence. Though, we would one go through all that trouble of multiplying his accounts, while a simpler solution is on the surface.

How often do we check mail on the phone? At best – once in 30 or 60 minutes. Email requires no urgent replies – and many take this for granted – except for when your job has something to do with online support service or you got some special notification (by phone, for example) of an important letter. And how long does it take us to punch in a reply to an SMS? In most cases, we do it instantly, or, running to an extreme, we are so busy that can’t even answer it.

Another fact of note is that the number of people owning a mobile phone outruns the number of people enjoying email services. Obviously, these consumers of the mobile service should be stamped “out-of-date”, given an iPhone apiece along with an email account.

SMS setup. It is a very tangled process for sure – you need to compose a message and then it gets sent, no further settings required. As of today, the size limits are nearly gone, and I think, and many share this point of view, squeezing 1000 symbols even into a letter is quite a challenge, anyway, what would be the point?

Short messages have a hundred percent delivery rate, can be personalized and have maximum priority for the users. There is no such issue as spam. Plus its straightforward setup (no setup at all, to be precise) and wider adoption – all this adds up to a successful technology.

As far as outgoing messages are concerned, email has no edge over SMS. This is where we about to wrap it all up and stop discribing obvious things that 99% of the users clearly understand and vote for them with their own money.

By the way, IM-clients only intensify SMS traffic, rather than negate it. “Why” would well be a separate article, so no word on this here.
“Best” phone – “best” SMS client

SMS-messaging is the second most popular feature, following voice communications. That’s why many makers strive to offer extra options along with default capabilities – achieve, custom folders creation, search functions etc. While “inventing” the phone, Apple booted the experience of the rest of the world and got everything in the way the company believed to be more straightforward and unsophisticated. Although most users will find such implementation a bit odd. Let’s look into it.

The “Messages” icon is in the top left, seemingly, it couldn’t grab any spot in the quick launch bar. In my opinion, if it were not for Apple’s desire to get users as heavy on data as possible, it could have been easily thrown in there instead of mail.

Upon receiving a message you see a pop-up window with sender’s name and a couple of text lines. If you have the handset lying around on a table, your message will be read by just about everyone. When you have several new messages, the iPhone displays only their total number and phone numbers, if the letter can be squeezed into the field. So, in case you are bent on security and don’t want any third party to intrude into your correspondence, you will be better off with pop-ups disabled. This window always comes to the foreground when surfing the web or watching video – you can tap Ignore and check it later.    

While at the standby screen, the display springs into life for a second to notify you of an incoming message and then turns blank again, so if the phone is not in your hands, missing such event couldn’t be easier. The omission of a service LED, like on many other handsets, that allows you to keep track of these events, doesn’t help the matter either. For the sake of power saving, the iPhone momentarily turns off the display, and there are no screensavers available – meaning that you won’t enjoy screensavers with info on missed calls/messages like those found on other handsets.

There is only one short sound notification for an incoming SMS-message, no customized tones enabled. And on top of that, the vibration doesn’t last long either. So having the iPhone in outerwear, you might well overlook both signals. In case you are in the middle of some music track, the sound alert and the melody tend to overlap, as the sound gets muffled only for a fleeting moment.

But what deeply puzzled me, was the absence of the message icon from the status bar – you have no way of finding out that you have a new message from applications, for this you will have to go all the way back to the main menu. For instance, having missed the incoming message signal, you continue browsing web-pages or listening to music as if it never arrived. If you think that the status line will present you with the icon mimicking an envelope to let you know of a new message, you are mistaken. Over at Apple they believe that the user doesn’t necessarily have to be notified of these events and should rather go on utilizing more important functions of the handset. It is a samey feature, but its omission occasionally does confuse people. Which makes it all the more pleasant to see the message number counter upon the SMS-icon in the main menu – what a surprise.

The menu for messages is no bells and whistles on the face of it – it is a vertically-arranged list, displaying contact name (if available in the phonebook), and a couple of text lines taken from the last message. And it doesn’t matter whether you sent or received a message, you see the lines of the last message. It is not particularly conventional and has much to do with Threads – a feature that sets the iPhone apart from other offerings available on the market.

What these threads are all about? The phone groups up messages sent/received by the phone number, so while in the thread mode, all messages are displayed in separate boxes which can be viewed in the form of a vertically arranged list. That’s exactly where we run into the first problem that the thread mode brings about – you can’t delete some specific messages, save them or move onto the SIM-card, or into some folder. All you can do is wipe the message box, leaving no messages, essential or not, inside. Being unable to pick some particular message also means you can’t forward it to somebody else.    

At first the threads look nifty on the screen, and among all other things, they are quite speedy. But as your message base increases in weight, opening long threads (50 messages plus) becomes a tad more sluggish process, especially if a new message arrives when you are using some other function of the handset. Since there are no caps for a thread size, it will be getting slower with every new entry. On the other hand, keeping all these messages doesn’t make much sense, as the vast majority of them aren’t crucial, and the thread mode doesn’t empower you with search options. Scrolling through meters of threads is a real challenge – grabbing a pen and writing information down is much easier. Especially keeping in mind that the phone can’t copy text either.

The iPhone has no delivery report option. Many find it useful, though, for it guarantees that the recipient has had the message delivered and will read it. But you never know with the iPhone. This handset can only handle sent/received times, but that’s about it. Furthermore, the developers think it is a good idea to merge messages close in terms of sending time under one headline, so this parameters is no longer specified for separate messages. You end up looking at a small thread which starts at xx:xx, and there is no way to figure out when particular messages were received.

The handset doesn’t have a knack for reading vCard, name cards sent over SMS, which are shown as a complete mess of symbols. However, the iPhone locates phone numbers in text and offers you to add them into an already existing contact, or create a new entry, or dial that number/send a message.

Another “marvelous” touch here is the necessity to be within the coverage area to write a message to somebody. Don’t get me wrong, you can punch in a message and exit the section, and nothing will happen to the text when you get pack. However you won’t be able to compose message to several people – if you happen to get out of the coverage area while a message is being sent, you won’t be allowed to type another message until the handset does away with the first one. At any given moment you can handle only one message, which is another drawback of the threads. You simply can’t send a message later if something doesn’t work out, so should you have constant problems with sending some particular message, you are stuck, until, well, an Armageddon comes about, or you will lose the text you have typed.

This is just like a store when the seller hands goods personally, but in the case of the iPhone you won’t be offered to pick the options you need and pay for all the goods with one cheque, quite the contrary, you will have to pay for every option separately. You waste time and nerves – that’s how it is done here.

There is another ideological bomb brought about by the threads, and it is already ticking. If for sending messages some of your friends use special forms available on carriers’ sites, all these messages will end up in one thread, regardless of the contents, and you will have no other options but delete all of them. For example, Beeline has the 684 service for these purposes, and you simply won’t be able to find out whose messages there are – should we ask everyone to sign all messages?

No SMS templates are available; on top of that you can’t save or read SMS messages you have on the SIM card.

The SMS interface has one more remarkable feature to it, which is truly amazing when it comes to ergonomics. The handset memorizes the last window you deltwith, and when you unlock the phone, it brings it up. Now, imagine you have just received a message and naturally would like to look into it. You unlock the phone, but find yourself in some other menu far from messages. Nothing to worry about. You push the Back button and tap SMS thumbnail. What does the iPhone show you now? That’s right, the place where you left the messages menu last time. For instance a thread with some other contact involved. Now you get back to the general list, pick the thread with the new message and finally you can read it and even compose a reply. Some four extra presses for such a straightforward process as reading an SMS-message. I shall note, though, that if you actually manage to unlock the handset in a couple of seconds, you will get right into the menu you need.

The handset doesn’t let you send a message to a couple of contacts at a time, which makes me wonder about the developers’ thoughts. One message – one recipient. Now it is clear why there are no templates, who would need them anyway? Make up unique messages, develop your imagination! For instance, such routine message as “Gonna be late by XX minutes” should be typed in every time you are being late. What’s up with you, don’t keep people waiting, get changed, and tweak your life to meet the standards of this product.

Anticipating the objections of Apple fans that the concept of the threads is here thanks to Apple alone, I shall note that SMS Thread is an integral part of the Palm Treo, so if anybody utilizes it, this device must be the source.

If somebody wants to embrace threaded message view in Nokia phones, it is easy to do for 15 bucks – this app comes with a full set of standard features and imposes no limitations. This means, there are none at all. Since threads are more of a nice visual touch, rather than a real tool increasing overall usability, not many will fall for it.    

Now, take a look at the table above and the total number of “yes” and “no”. Two features are draws, in other 15, Apple’s offspring is far behind, for it simply doesn’t pack them. Every user has own priorities, but on the whole, there will always be an option of utmost importance. Of course, if you actually use SMS, and don’t think you are a Homo iPhonus, specially designed for this product.
Real-life situations

Since the fans of the iPhone can’t put all the pieces and specifications listed above together, and fully realize how these flaws might affect them in their daily routines, we have prepared a couple of real-life situations you can easily come across.

Gathering friends. You are about to roller-skate a little, storm into a club, or hang out somewhere. But you need to let some people know the place where you are meeting and the time. With a Nokia’s phone, all you need to do is compose a message, pick a group of contacts, or specify phone numbers and you are all set – the message has been delivered to all of them. With the iPhone you will need to punch in the same message for every contact you want to see there again and again.

Sharing information. You receive an SMS-message, whose contents seem to be very valuable, like a pub address or something. And you have to forward this information to your friends. With the iPhone, you simply dial their numbers and say: “Hey! I can’t forward this message to you because I have a really awesome handset that doesn’t support this feature, so please take a pen and write it down”. If you friend is taking a shower or having a nice work-out, he won’t be able to help you. Call another contact and, for example, you will hear: “Stop bothering me, send me an SMS” – fair enough. Most phones available on the market allow their owners to forward messages in any form and to any address.

Message delivery. You have lost your sleep, waiting for your better half to already land in some foreign country, or get out of the subway – you really need her right now. Any iPhone user sends a message and waits when it gets replied. Any user of some other handset sends an SMS and receives a report when the recipient gets back into the coverage area. Which is convenient.

New Year. You always need to send that “Happy New Year!!!” message to a lot of people, so you make up a template and employ your phone’s bulk mailing feature. With the iPhone you waste your entire evening punching in only one word – “HNY” – otherwise you might wind up with both your fingers and nerves severely hurt. And you will try to avoid replying to all incoming messages – you don’t have a proper template, while calling is not an option in these circumstances. That’s how you get the image of a man of few words, who normally ignores all these occasions, and speaks words of congratulation through clenched teeth.
Brief conclusion

You should overhype the lack of MMS support though – this standard can be easily replaced by regular email. As I see, for many manufacturers MMS is a mere act of paying homage to the decisions they made in the pas t- the market has almost no demand for this service.

Wrapping it all up, I can say the following on the iPhone’s messaging options – it is an unlimited storage for messages, which turns out to be worthless for the want of the most essential features like sorting, search and general message management. All information you deem worthy should be literally written down – like on that foot-operated spaceship.

Today any handset offers more than the iPhone on the messaging front. As far as smartphones are concerned (which the iPhone has nothing to do with in the first place) S60 tears the Apple’s product to pieces without breaking a sweat. If we were to give this phone a one-word characteristic, it would be “beautiful”. For it doesn’t have any other merits. You can meditate, watching over dialogues or pop-up windows, but the usability is in question here, no matter how you look at it.

P.S. If you can give us some constructive criticism on this article – you are more than welcome, but please save us from the likes of “I don’t use SMS, so nobody needs this feature for sure”. Also, I can’t take such arguments as “they will chunk this/that in some time in future”. This product is on sale today, at this very moment.

 

Eldar Murtazin (eldar@mobile-review.com)
Translated by Oleg Kononosov (oleg.kononosov@mobile-review.com)

Published — 24 August 2007




Mobile-Review hates on Iphone part 3

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iPhone as a phone – probing the main function
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-as-phone-en.shtml

Attention. If you are an Apple fan, stop right here, don’t read any further. Take care about your nerves. You are not a fan, that’s for sure?! Don’t tell us nobody warned you after you read this. This article has been written for normal people, rather than those coming from Homo iPhonus species. To that group we relegate the consumers who alter themselves, as well as their physical parameters, so as to make use of the iPhone.

Well, let’s recall the things we were pondering over in the previous installment of our “iPhone exposed” article – SMS-messaging. As you might remember, the iPhone turned out to be a complete bust, lagging behind the today’s phones in almost every single way, and the fans came up with two reasons for that. Firstly, SMS messaging is dying as a standard. This one was pretty much far-fetched, and we did everything necessary to prove this statement wrong in the article. However the other factor is not what you usually hear – it appears that in the US, which is the market this phone is made for, nobody uses SMS, probably 1-2 percent of “obsolescent” consumers at best. The rest are completely into IM-clients or employ e-mail, which is a contemporary thing miles ahead in terms of ease of use. The fact that the iPhone is currently propped up by PR activities positioning it as a tool of SMS messaging is completely overlooked by these people. By “PR activities” here we mean an avalanche of reports suggesting that some individuals managed to type so many messages with the iPhone that their bills were over a hundred pages long. So, one might actually come to a conclusion that this phone was made with SMS-messaging in mind. But as we already know, this is not the case. In order not to waste time on all this nonsense, we will broaden these people’s knowledge base by quoting some data on SMS – during the Q1 2007, three largest US carriers had nearly 60 billion messages sent; to be more precise: Verizon – 22,75 bln. messages, T-Mobile – 16 bln., AT&T – 14,23 bln. Together, these three occupy almost 61 percent of the market. Overlooking other carriers and bearing in mind that the US population makes 302.2 million, penetration level of mobile communications around 80 percent, it is easy to find out how many SMS are sent by the average user in the US. 219,14 messages a quarter. Still think SMS is being ditched in the US or about to pass off?

Following the canons of trenched warfare, Apple fans have already prepared a fallback to their fortified positions. Occasionally they mumble that it is merely a “fancy toy” that can’t be judged on its technical merits. Personally, I have no quarrel with this definition, for it is a precise way to describe what this device actually is.

Wrapping it all up, all these claims of the iPhone fans on SMS-messages give an interesting picture. I’m curious about what their song will be when the phone arrives in Europe. Ah, right, I almost forgot – it will turn into a spaceship. I suppose there is nothing more to talk about. What is typical of fans, they always shift gears, so their moans have already traveled from the field of solid facts to philosophy. But enough of this gas, moving straight to the substance.

Data source

This time around we are going to cover the main function of every phone – calls. In this installment we are focusing both hardware and software idiosyncrasies of the iPhone. In case some Homo iPhonus type of user hasn’t jumped off in the preface, I shall underscore the fact that the ability to make and receive call is THE centerpiece of any mobile phone. Nevertheless, after the story with “dying” SMS messaging, the next thesis probably should go something like this: “there is no point in calling with this device”. A crowd going crazy is an amusing sight, dare I say.
Phone interface, phonebook

The iPhone developers have put the calling features above all else and given them the top priority – the Phone thumbnail sits on the immediate left in the navi-bar. However, the ergonomics of this solution are hampered, in the first place, by the lack of hardware buttons. Let’s have a look at what a typical call with the iPhone takes.

Calling with iPhone. After pressing the button below the display or the power key, unlocking the device, moving fingers across the display, tapping the Phone icon, we get straight into… The place you end up in actually depends on your luck – the Phone application comes with 5 tabs – Favorites, Recent Calls, Contacts, Keyboard, Voice mail. This handset memorizes the last tab you were in and then upon re-entering the application calls up this tab. For other applications this approach can do some good, but in a mobile phone that has dumped all hardware keys, such a solution is more than just odd. The keypad is what all phones have in common, and normally we tend to call more often than do something else with our handsets. Probably, the fact that LG and Samsung have finally awoken to this has made for pick/hang up buttons in the Prada and the Armani. These Korean makers have not forgotten what the handset is all about – calls.

Anyway, in the iPhone that Phone application is three clicks away, and then you will usually need another tap to enable the keypad or some other apps, like the phonebook or favorites.

Calling with Nokia N95. Before I start, I must say that everything I describe below may well go for just about any handset available on the market, regardless of form-factor – the number of interactions you need to make will remain the same. Pushing the slider open automatically unlocks the keypad. Then you can you dial any number, meaning that the phone application is always on tap. With candy-bars it gets a tad more complicated – you need to press two keys or hold down some particular button to unlock the keypad. But again, it is so much easier.

Calling up most features found in the phone takes two presses - one for unlocking, one for tapping and holding one of the numeric keys that together form a quick launch menu. “1” brings up voice mail

The phonebook is accessed in two actions from the locked-down standby screen.

Let’s list all these figures in the table below.
Function   
Nokia N95   
Apple iPhone

Unlocking   
1 action (1 second)   
1 gesture and a key press, 2 actions (4 seconds)

Keypad access   
1 action (1 second)   
3-4 actions (5 seconds)

Phonebook access   
1 action, 1 key press (2 seconds)   
3-4 (5 seconds)

Speed dial   
1 action, 1 key press (2 seconds)   
3-4 (5 seconds)

Call log   
1 action, 1 key press (2 seconds)   
3-4 (5 seconds)

Voice mail   
1 action, 1 key press (2 seconds)   
3-4 (5 seconds)


As you see, the ergonomics of the iPhone leave much to be desired. Put it this way – with any handset worth more than 30 USD you will spend less time accessing the core features than with the iPhone. That may not seem like much – some seconds, what can they do? But these fleeting moments make minutes of your time, wasted because somebody doesn’t have a clue how to make user-friendly interfaces.

We intentionally left out the fact that many, while taking the Nokia N95 out of pocket, slide it open and even before looking at the display start typing or pushing the keys. In other words, they don’t bother themselves with inspecting the phone’s screen. Also, don’t close your eyes to the fact that the ability to dial by touch is provided by any handset with a mechanical keypad. We actually picked the Nokia N95 on purpose – some feature phones are even better performers, so we met the iPhone halfway to keep the gap tiny. As you can see from the table, the iPhone is only two times slower in most respects.

And the last experiment was pretty much straightforward. We handed our iPhone to random people, showed where the Phone application was and offered them to practice in dialing phone numbers. When they mastered this operation, we asked them to type 333-33-33 on the Nokia N95 and do exactly the same thing on the iPhone. The dispersion in the results we witnessed was quite remarkable. It took them about 5 seconds (best time – 4 seconds) to dial with the N95 and nearly 10 seconds with the iPhone (best time – 9 seconds).

Basically, you can just leave the Phone application, set on the tab you need, sitting idle on the screen and lock the display. Then, after removing the display lock you will find yourself right in this app, which saves about a second of your time. Why the vast majority of the iPhone owners won’t do so? It is simple – the handset’s status bar has no icons notifying you of new mail or SMS – to figure this out you have to be in the main menu, which is the thing everybody does all the time. This is a quite tricky question that definitely deserves a close-up.

If you happened to dial a number but didn’t actually make a call, this number will remain there, which turns out to be useless in most cases, so you are down to delete it first to dial a new phone number.

To avoid being accused of bias once again, I can say with all due confidence that in terms of interface the iPhone has a number of advantages over other handsets. Of all the functions wired to the iPhone’s the main menu, one launches faster than on most today’s phones. Others can perform it just as fast or slower (because of phone lock or missing shortcuts). You will never guess which one! No, wrong! It is Calculator!!! Honestly speaking, I haven’t the foggiest what the developers were thinking when they were designing the iPhone’s ergonomics.
 
Call log

The layout of the call log differs from that applied by other makers in very fundamental ways, but still has some things in common. We won’t create a “perfect phone” here and put it up against the iPhone, so we will add the Sony Ericsson K850i to the comparison on top of the Nokia N95. Personally, I love the way the call log is laid out and works in Sony Ericsson’s A100/A200 platform, but it is a matter of taste.

By default, the iPhone switches to the tab featuring all calls, which can comprise up to 100 entries. All calls to the same number coming one after another get merged, and the bracketed figure on the right shows how many calls there were. In this view mode you see call time (if there is a couple of them – all time marks). Another thing of note is that the merged calls don’t make one entry, but are regarded as separate entries.
 
 

Also there is a list for all missed calls – the main log shows these entries in red.

Without further ado, here is a table, which can shed some light on what features are different on the iPhone.
Feature   
iPhone   
Nokia N95 (S60 3hd Edition FP1)   
Sony Ericsson K850i (A100/A200/A250i)

Main list (all calls)   
Yes   
No   
Yes

Stand-alone lists for missed, incoming and outgoing calls   
Only for missed   
Yes, three lists   
Yes, three lists

 

Call time   
Yes   
Yes   
Yes

Call duration   
No   
No   
No

Number of entries   
100   
No limits   
90, 30 entries per list

Call type in the main list (incoming, outgoing)   
No, only missed   
 -    
Yes

Black and white lists (blocks calls from certain phone numbers)   
No   
Yes   
Yes

Call filter, answering machine   
No   
Yes, third-partly app required   
No


The only problem, yet a crucial one, that puts me off is that the handset just doesn’t know that 8-903-3333333 and +7-093-3333333 are in fact two ways of dialing one number. Depending on how you type a number, the iPhone may not recognize it, which is somewhat frustrating. All other makers learned this lesson ten years ago and now realize that any number should be identified with its prefix left out.

The lack of stand-alone lists isn’t particularly justified and sometimes can cause a lot of trouble. Nevertheless, this spartan layout can be mastered, so you won’t be missing the times when you had all three logs at your disposal badly.

Since the iPhone has been made with regular people in mind, don’t even try digging for something that goes beyond the core functionality. Don’t forget the inability to install own applications or improve the default feature pack (third-party applications will be our next big focus, but for now we are talking about enhancing the stock features). For instance, getting a personal answering machine with some IVR-cues like on S60 platform will be impossible on the iPhone in the foreseeable future. A fine example of such application for the Nokia N95 is IVCM.

On balance, the call log is pretty much competent, yet nothing to shout about.
Favorites

With the firmware version 1.0.1 the number of Favorite entries has jumped up to 50. You can select entries right from this section or the phonebook. While in the phonebook, if there are more than 6 numbers specified for a contact, a part of them will be unavailable to you, since there is no way to scroll down. This seems to be more like a software error rather than some fundamental flaw – so it gets rectified in the near-term for sure.
 
 

Favorites menu is a poor replacement for speed dial feature, and boosting its capacity up to 50 entries is pretty unwise, for it is not all another type of phonebook – they would be better off with contact groups viewable in separate lists.
 

In view of Apple’s awful lack of experience in creating handsets, it is now clear why the ergonomics suffer so badly. For instance, I suppose it would be lovely to see a speed dial menu for the on-screen numeric keys, so upon tapping them we would see pop-up name for quick dialing. Even when thrown into Favorites, these numbers should be accessible from the numeric keypad. There is a ton of ideas flying around – you just need some experience on this front to grab them and implement.
Phonebook

Finally, we have come to another feature typical of all handsets – Apple spent a tremendous amount of time perfecting it, so the anomalies here are thin on the ground. Upon calling up the phonebook you see a vertically arranged list of entries, where you can turn on sorting by First/Last name, picking one of these options sets the respective name parts in bold. There is no real search in the iPhone, however the index list on the immediate right makes for painless jumps between initials. It is pretty accurate, so after switching to the right part of the list all you have to do is scroll all the way down to the name you need.
 

In “non-revolutionary” phones you can dial the general number right from the main list, however with the iPhone you will need to enter the edit mode first by tapping a contact and only then pick the desired number and dial it up. Another extra interaction with the phone. Truth be told, this holds true even for entries with a lone phone number inside. Regrettably, it is not the place in the phone they have striven to make ergonomically friendly

The process of synchronization with Outlook runs smoothly - the iPhone easily picks up all your contacts. When composing a new contact on the handset itself you can add new fields, but, let’s take a closer look.

Any contact can be bound up with any image, which will be displayed upon an inbound or outbound call, taking up a large portion of the screen. Actually it is the first time I come across field descriptions put right into the blanks, so once you start punching in data they disappear. If you happen to edit these fields, you better be sure what is what. And this is not an easy task when dealing with names of Chinese or Vietnamese partners.
 
 

For any contact you can submit an unlimited number of phone numbers and specify unique types for them (by default – mobile, home, work, main, home fax, work fax, pager, other). Plus you can create your own mark, which is pretty convenient. Similar marks will be available for all other fields as well.
 
 
 

Out of 20 ringtones enabled on the iPhone you can pick a personal tune for a contact, and since 19 of them are barely audible even in quite friendly environments, being able to choose from one tune feels humiliating.

Email addresses, as well as address type. Web links. Postal addresses. Among the extra fields are birthday, memorable event, nickname, job, department, prefix, suffix.
 
 

To find out more about the phonebook-related differences between the iPhone and other contemporary handsets, let’s get the N95 involved again, as the most typical representative of S60.
Feature   
Apple iPhone   
Nokia N95

Number of entries    
Unlimited   
Unlimited

Number of extra fields   
Fixed by field types   
Fixed by field types (field type available for editing)

Search by First/Last Name   
No   
Yes

Initial search   
Yes   
Yes

Voice tags   
No voice dialing   
Created automatically for any language

Contact groups   
No   
Yes

Interactions with contact groups (copy, select etc)   
No   
Yes

Ability to create an archive in phone’s memory or memory card   
No, only on PC   
Yes

Ability to send contacts to other devices    
No   
Yes – via SMS, mail or Bluetooth (vCard)

Ability to retrieve contacts to other devices   
No   
Yes – via SMS, mail or Bluetooth (vCard)

SyncML   
No   
Yes

MS Exchange    
No   
Yes

Contact duplication   
No   
Yes

Copying contacts to/from SIM-card   
No   
Yes


The ease-of-use delivered by the iPhone hinges on how many contacts you have and what initials prevail in your phonebook. While you can jump to any particular letter in no time, finding a contact among 50-60 entries will take some time. Undoubtedly, paging through the list with the iPhone’s touchdisplay looks tremendous, but it is nowhere near that in terms of the amount of time of waste on it. If you keep your contact list small, the gap won’t hurt you much, but as your phonebook gains in weight, it becomes a real pain. As I see it, the top limit set by the iPhone developers where the handset still remains effective makes about 250 entries. Past this mark it gets sluggish and lags behind other phones usability-wise.

Contacts stored on your SIM-card can’t be displayed no matter how hard you struggle with the phone. Apparently this is an anachronism; just like those now-arriving cards with more memory onboard and capable of storing more fields per entry.

The iPhone’s phonebook is very controversial – a slew of fields but no extra abilities like contact groups. Data synchronization is enabled only for computers, which feels like a thing from the past (if it’s a network-focused device, why there is no SyncML?). The concept utilized by the iPhone has materialized in a mobile terminal tied down to a computer – without the latter this phone can’t do a thing, whereas other makers offer solutions that are independent in most operations. Let’s revise the most typical usage scenarios that users may come across.
 
 
iPhone usage scenarios

Meeting. You are meeting your colleague, friend, or somebody else and during the conversation you suddenly realize that you need one of his contacts. With the iPhone it is this simple – you ask him to dictate all contact details and start punching them in your phone. If you had some other handset, it would be somewhat less complicated – they send you a contact wirelessly, you save it in the phonebook, period. On top of that, you won’t be able to beam an entry from the iPhone either.

Work group. You are working on some project and obviously you want to stay on top of the things, and your main communication means are calls and email. You are really busy with meetings, but calls from your work group have top-priority and you must answer them all. The iPhone provides you with no tools to do that – no groups or an ability to prioritize contacts. And in its turn S60 platform has it all – first, contact groups, then a couple of third-party applications you can prioritize calls, or use black/white list the system comes with, which is not as convenient, though.

Bulk e-mailing from the iPhone’s phonebook is impossible.

Dialing by touch. You are driving a car and can’t possibly get your eyes off the road. But with the iPhone you always need to peek at the display to do something, while other with handsets you can dial a number by touch. Another great way to go is a wired headset and voice dialing. Or its Bluetooth-powered counterpart also with voice dialing feature. For a touchscreen-based handset voice dialing is not an amenity but a must-have ability, otherwise you won’t have any chance to use it while driving.
 

Enterprise contact list. There is a number of contacts that should be in every employee’s phonebook and are constantly updated on a remote server. You, or your network administrator, who can do it remotely, get the latest version of this set of contacts onto your mobile devices, so you don’t have to enter them manually. The iPhone doesn’t even know how this works.

Duplicating contacts (for colleagues or family). For these contacts most fields, saving for phone numbers, won’t differ much throughout the group. With the Nokia N95 you just can duplicate a contact and then edit it in any way you like, but with the iPhone you are down to submit the same data over and over again.

We could come up with a whole lot of other usage scenarios, but in order not to enrage Apple fans even further we will stop right here. Please, if you know some situations when the iPhone is a complete bust or proves to be superior – send them to us. Best scenarios will be published in the next installment of this article.

Sound enhancement systems. Back in 2000 Nokia rolled out the Nokia 6250, which was the first handset ever to employ background noise estimation system and automatic earpiece tuning so as to suit the environment you were in. A year before, Nokia’s engineers came up with the Nokia 8210, where the voice quality was superb – actually all calls were so clear that you would think that the other end of the conversation hung up, so it was essential add some noise to avoid confusion during pauses and keep conversations real. It may well be that it was in 2000 when it all started for the modern sound enhancement technologies found in today’s handsets.

Samsung’s Voice Clarity technology that debuted several years ago, and could be enabled/disable by user – it was some kind of equalizer that improved sound quality in calls made in poorly covered areas. In 2007 on top of this one, the company has been embedding Whisper Mode, boosting microphone and earpiece sensitivities, which actually saves the day when having a conversation in call-unfriendly environments (parties for example).

Nokia also calls its technology “Voice Clarity”, but as a rule it can’t be turned off and always kicks in as soon as you pick up. Similar approach is exercised by Motorola and its CrystalSound.
 

It would be way too naive to expect the iPhone to come packaged with sound enhancement systems, which are the fruits of years and years of elaboration. And indeed, the Apple’s offspring sports none of the above. Quality-wise it matches the Nokia 8210, which is by no means a letdown – it delivers decent sound. And that would be great, if only it wasn’t so quiet. The earpiece’s volume falls flat in many kinds of environment, from noisy streets to parties, which is a crucial drawback. However, headsets come to the rescue – with their help the sound gets rich and loud again. Nevertheless, if you employ the standard headset, you won’t be able to enjoy your tunes, for it doesn’t have what it takes to offer you a decent sonic experience. And a set of earphones has no microphone to make calls, which leads you to the problem of choice. Perhaps, it is a good idea to gear up with a pair headphones and a standard headset and then keep swapping them as you go.

What about other no-so-obvious aspects all other manufacturers have been learning all these years? Probably, constant signal strength is one of them, and sound quality that doesn’t depend on battery level. Take any Nokia-branded model – its earpiece’s sound quality hinges on carrier, weather and so on. But if nothing extraordinary happens, it won’t depend on current battery level, be it 100% or 10%. The user will always get the same quality throughout his calls.

Since for the iPhone the issue of power consumption is a sore point, that’s where they gave up on “guaranteed call quality”. When you have around 20% left (first low-battery warning), the handset starts doing odd things during calls – it drops frames, and while in areas with poor signal strength you may actually lose network connection. It takes a lot of experience under your belt to provide decent and, more importantly, stable call quality; unfortunately Apple’s developers have no place to get it from.

Another queer aspect is the battery bar – it is designed in a way that, when reaching 20%, it leaves you only with 7-14 minutes of talk time. Naturally, it depends on network coverage and other factors, but in most cases that’s what you get. On the other hand, other manufacturers squeeze more talk time into their offerings, since they regard this function as the most vital constituent of the handset. It may sound like a matter of taste, but in fact this mediocre battery life turns out to be a serious letdown. When we were under DDoS-attack, my fully-charged iPhone lasted 5.5 hours – during this time span I received 62 calls, with total call duration a little bit over 4 hours. It was a good field test, which indicated that in terms of its talk time figures the iPhone is inferior to the competition. For example, the Nokia N95, on the same day, gave me extra sixty minutes worth of calls.

Note for Homo iPhonus. Sound enhancement systems are of no real use, nobody needs them. You are so right. Your brain can handle these functions with greater efficiency, cleaning out background noises all the time. Keep practicing! Way to go!
Calls, vibro, etc

Had any maker launched a handset with disabled personal ringtones, it would have been poked really hard. At the same time, the iPhone hasn’t seen feedback from really enraged users – some enthusiast have already come up with hacks that allow cracking this limitation, and Apple has rolled out its 99-cent iTunes-based ringtone service, which is quite amusing. Life is all about dealing with difficulties, and it is good to know that the company intentionally creates obstacles, so that Homo iPhonus could overcome them and feel the taste of life in struggle.

Call alert volume (who needs it anyway? How could you not understand such obvious things!!!) is nowhere to be found due to the iPhone’s design. The loudspeakers sit on the bottom end, meaning that when carried in one’s pocket, the sound will be muffled, so you won’t hear a thing. Nevertheless, while the iPhone is on a table, the loudspeaker is pointed at you, which results in a pretty decent sounding. But the bad thing about it is that the volume level it produces proves to be subpar in the vast majority of cases. You will keep missing calls in car, in the street (unless you’re wearing headphones), and other places – any iPhone owner simply has to go about his business with a pair of earphones on, otherwise missed calls will become a real disaster. The vibration alert is average strength-wise, nothing special about it.

Judging the iPhone on its volume level alone, it ends up at the bottom of all charts. Furthermore, this volume cap is brought about by the phone’s hardware, so there is no way to get around it. The handsfree mode has been implemented just for the sake of it – there is nothing more but a name to it, so it is not even worth mentioning.
 
Short summary

While in the messaging department we made sure that the iPhone has almost nothing to it, the phone features are doing better – it rings, which is a good thing already. The ergonomics of the phonebook, dialing display and, basically, everything that has something to do with calls have been carried over from the past century. Any iPhone user spends twice as much time on dialing a number – if you call at least 15 times a day, it will make 6 to 9 hours a year. Of course it may not seem much at a glance, but in the end it all leads to tremendous amounts of wasted time.

The sound quality is pretty moderate in view of no sound enhancement systems. The absence of voice dialing capabilities on a handset (it is also a touchscreen-centric device, mind it) hyped this much looks odd, the say the least. Had Nokia released a phone lacking voice dialing, it would have been trampled at once.

The iPhone doesn’t have any profiles or call settings either. Moreover, the handset produces such mediocre volume level, that you have to wear headphones all the time – three meters away from the phone and you already can’t hear it ring. On the bright side, Apple has finally done away with disabled ringtones. But they still need to add a coffee grinder to the phone, so that all i-stronauts can have a cup of coffee whenever they want. Remember, this phone is turning into a spaceship soon, just keep this in mind.

Also, the iPhone doesn’t stand a chance in the enterprise segment – it simply doesn’t have the goods this type of users demand. No remote synchronization, no advanced features in the phonebook, no support for enterprise data bases.

It is a pity that in terms of its phone part, the “revolutionary” iPhone belongs to the 20th century. It is not particularly good at making calls, doesn’t offer its user great usability, or some all-round new abilities. Being a weak solution, both in software and hardware departments, it comes with a host of gizmos, you know, those cute-looking ones. I think Homo iPhonus need only these visual touches. But then again, there is no point in shouting about this phone’s overwhelming advantages over other models available on the market. Once you take an iPhone in hands, you are bound to spend a lot of time with it – that’s the company’s ultimate goal, which was reached by omitting ergonomically friendly interface. For the time being, the thing Apple really needs is walking ads, rather than a solid user base.

P.S. In the next installment we will focus on the iPhone’s “stellar” email, which is the third most popular application in this handset. And while the iPhone is still the talk of the town, Apple has made a handful of noticeable moves. First, they have rolled out recovered iPhones for the US market with a 100-dollar price cut – it seems that over the two months since the release date, Apple has accumulated a large stock of returned devices. Then, to boost the sales they have dumped the 4 Gb version, and have taken 200 USD off the 8 Gb version’s price tag. And last but not least – even before the European release of the iPhone, Apple’s sales haven’t lived up to expectations, and yet the market “surprisingly” finds out a relatively painless method of unlocking the phone. This will allow the company to prop the iPhone sales in this quarter.

 

Eldar Murtazin (eldar@mobile-review.com)
Translated by Oleg Kononosov (oleg.kononosov@mobile-review.com)

Published — 15 September 2007   

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EJ Rizo I don´t know what to say,but dude seems to have a grudge against Apple.




iPhone as a part of Apple’s strategy. The future of Apple, Inc.
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-as-phone-en.shtml









honestly i didnt read much of what he wrote...
way to much to read...
but what i did read i already knew... he just tried to make it out worst than what it is... me as an owner and user it serves and exceeds my needs... i honestly think he is just a hater... does he use anything positive on these stories? i didnt see any? ... i mean you can be like well you cant sent messages to multiple parties at one time but it does have the best music player ever to be seen... or it doesnt have expandable memory but it does have 8gigs which im yet to see on any other phone or expandable memory card?


you know  what i mean... just written in hater mode... but its all good... not going to go throw a fit and toss my phone out the window because some dude post some bias info...

oh and did i mention i love my iphone?  ;)

Yeah,way to much to read. I haven´t read the whole thing myself. I just took a quick scan trough it.
But he knows his shit,I´ve been reading his reviews for years,never seen him this bias.
I think he´s just firing back to all the hype around Iphone,they got a forum over at his site(never been in there,you got to sign up),but from what I can gather there has been alot of talk about this phone in there.
(Read his first hate article in my first post in this thread)


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i honestly think he is just a hater... does he use anything positive on these stories? i didnt see any? ... i mean you can be like well you cant sent messages to multiple parties at one time but it does have the best mus

Yes,he likes the UI and the speed of the OS.


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but it does have the best music player ever to be seen... or it doesnt have expandable memory
but it does have 8gigs which im yet to see on any other phone or expandable memory card?

But both Nokia and SE has already a couple of harddisk phone´s on the marked;

N91 with 8GB
(http://www.topwords.com.ua/Mobilnews/katalog/images/nokiaimages/n91.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/OGQ0K7f2pvQ&autoplay=0

SE W950 with 4GB
http://www.youtube.com/v/BL5XAyVeL2s

SE w960 with 8GB  Nice!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/v/SnXoP6GP3sY


SE W850 supports 8GB memory cards(memory stick) that´s available for that phone for like 50$.
They changed the memory cards to a smaller format on
the "new" models and there´s only 4GB (M2 cards) available right now,but there´s bigger cards coming in a minute.
M2 memory cards
(http://i.expansys.com/i/n/n149773.jpg)
SE W850
(http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/W850_front_with_headset_precious_black.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/3g_uh3GQAWU

Most of the "old" SE phone´s that supports Memory Stick can use the 8GB expandable memory card.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/136/351384908_4b6a74572e.jpg)


Coming November; Nokia N95i 8GB
(http://www.pmptoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/nokia-n95-8gb-music-edition.jpg)



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you know  what i mean... just written in hater mode... but its all good...
not going to go throw a fit and toss my phone out the window because some dude post some bias info...


Ha,ha this made me laugh(in a positive way).






the whole standard 8 gig of flash memory works perfect for me.. but i see how others can use it... but i really dont like the whole "memory card" thing they always change what kinda cards are to be used and what size and what size is supported and so forth... and usually the cards increase in memory but usually seems too late... like if i needed a certain card for my phone it usually wont reach the 8 gigs til like a year or so later...

anyway just my observation of the situation... and the iphone doesnt have any "Hard Disk" but it uses flash memory.


Ok,my bad.
I know N91 got a "hard disk",not sure about the SE phone's.
Yeah,about the memory cards,SE,Nokia and Samsung has agreed to come up with a standard memory card next year.
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Nokia, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson team up on memory card standard
http://handhelds.engadget.com/2007/09/14/nokia-samsung-and-sony-ericsson-team-up-on-memory-card-standar/

2009 may be the year when we finally see a unified memory format, that is, if Nokia, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson have their way. The "Universal Flash Storage specification" would see memory cards travel between cellular devices, digital cameras and other memory hungry devices without the need for adapters -- and it'll likely save us some coin, too. Some big name memory manufacturers are purportedly onboard, with names like Micron Technology Inc., Spansion LLC, STMicroelectronics NV, and Texas Instruments Inc., being bandied about. We look forward to that magical day, when our stacks of memory cards can be reduced to a stack of one type of card, ahhh... progress.


Why can´t phone´s like Iphone,SE W960 and N93i have expandable memory? The good thing about the new SE K850 is that it supports two memory cards(M2 and Micro SD) at the same time,so that means in near future you can have 64GB your phone if you really need it.
SE K850 memory card slot;
(http://www.mobilmania.cz/uploadedfiles/15193.jpg)



I actually prefer memory cards over hard disc/flash memory.
What happens when your phone crash? All the shit you got stored is gone...






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I actually prefer memory cards over hard disc/flash memory.
What happens when your phone crash? All the shit you got stored is gone...

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonebackup.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonebackup2.jpg)

part of the reason i love the whole apple experience... syncs perfectly ... all contacts, photos, media (music, movies...etc.), settings, web bookmarks, mail accounts etc.


I know this,the Windows phones does the same shit,you got an advantage there.
It ain´t that easy to sync with Symbian,I got install Isync first and it don´t go automaticly like on Iphone and Windows Mobile,so I don´t really sync it. I just transfer whatever photo´s,music and what not over Bluetooth.
So I give Iphone and Windows Mobile a big pluss for this.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 18, 2007, 06:15:57 AM

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Nokia's N94i to run Windows Mobile OS, not Symbian? Er, No.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/nokias-n94i-to-run-windows-mobile-not-symbian/

Believe everything you see? Good, then this is an unannounced Nokia N94i running the Windows Mobile (not Symbian) operating system. We have no way of knowing for sure, but that looks like an engineering prototype Chinese knockoff of something which has gone up for auction somewhere on this great blue planet. According to the listed specs, we're looking at a touchscreen (with stylus) multimedia device synonymous with the N-Series packing a 2 megapixel camera, speakerphone, Bluetooth 2.0 and MicroSD expansion. It's also listed as a dual-sim device with quad-band GSM support. Of course, Microsoft has been slowly making in-roads into Nokia handsets for several months with Nokia's purchase of Intellisync and the recent announcement to integrate Windows Live services into some Nokia handsets. Still, WinMo on Nokia... are we dreaming, or is that "WinXP.jpg" an indicator of something more foolish?


You will find images of N94i here;
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/nokias-n94i-to-run-windows-mobile-not-symbian/

Can´t find any images to post,if you can find any post them here.



looks like a cheap chineese knock off lol
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 18, 2007, 07:22:53 PM
funny to see all the imitations..lol

we knew they were coming... but nothing is like the real thing.

http://www.youtube.com/v/YgW7or1TuFk

just amazing
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 19, 2007, 07:10:16 AM
What? doesn't iPhone have mms either ?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 19, 2007, 07:24:34 AM
What? doesn't iPhone have mms either ?



NOPE!
But,then again how often do you use MMS?






Quote
Nokia's N94i to run Windows Mobile OS, not Symbian? Er, No.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/nokias-n94i-to-run-windows-mobile-not-symbian/

Believe everything you see? Good, then this is an unannounced Nokia N94i running the Windows Mobile (not Symbian) operating system. We have no way of knowing for sure, but that looks like an engineering prototype Chinese knockoff of something which has gone up for auction somewhere on this great blue planet. According to the listed specs, we're looking at a touchscreen (with stylus) multimedia device synonymous with the N-Series packing a 2 megapixel camera, speakerphone, Bluetooth 2.0 and MicroSD expansion. It's also listed as a dual-sim device with quad-band GSM support. Of course, Microsoft has been slowly making in-roads into Nokia handsets for several months with Nokia's purchase of Intellisync and the recent announcement to integrate Windows Live services into some Nokia handsets. Still, WinMo on Nokia... are we dreaming, or is that "WinXP.jpg" an indicator of something more foolish?


You will find images of N94i here;
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/nokias-n94i-to-run-windows-mobile-not-symbian/

Can´t find any images to post,if you can find any post them here.



looks like a cheap chineese knock off lol



Yeah,and the specs was a little off.
N94 with only 2MP camera and no 3G? Strange....
...and the design looks like the old Nokia 7650
(http://www.wirelessdevnet.com/symbian/24/fig1.gif)

But there´s rumors that Nokia and/or SE might release a windows phone.
Time will tell.....



Found some more info about the new N-Gage phones´s
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Nokia N-Gage V2
http://www.handcellphone.com/archives/nokia-n-gage-v2-gaming-cell-phone-will-be-launched-in-first-quarter-of-2007
(http://handcellphone.com/wp-content/themes/green-marinee/phonepic/Nokia-NGage-V2-Game-Phone-1.jpg)
(http://www.topwords.com.ua/Mobilnews/2005images/05/806.jpg)
(http://www.nextweb.com.br/manual/nokia_n_gage.bmp)

Nokia N-Gage gaming cell phone was definitely a big failure for Nokia. There were too many complaints about the gaming devices. Bad controllers and too limited choice of games are the biggest problems that cause Nokia N-Gage to be a big joke in gaming industry.
However, Nokia doesn't give up the lucrative mobile gaming industry. According to the spokesman of Nokia, Nokia is back with the new redesigned N-Gage V2 gaming cell phone which will be loaded with EA Mobile and Gameloft popular games.
According to Gregg Saute, the spokesman of Nokia, the new N-Gage V2 will be on sales in the first quarter of 2007. He also mentioned that the Nokia N-Gage V2 comes equipped with faster processor and better graphic card for 3D image processing. There isn't any details about the specifications of the processor and graphic card.
However, one thing for sure is the Nokia N-Gage V2 supports WLAN and 3G networks which mean you can download games faster and play multiplayer games with your friends through fast speed WLAN or 3G networks.

The question whether N-Gage V2 will be a success for Nokia still unknown, but the N-Gage V2 gaming cell phone is definitely a gadget that everybody is excited about.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on September 19, 2007, 08:34:38 AM
damn a lot of phones here are just amazing...gotta get a new one soon
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 19, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
I found these on youtube,must say they´re quite funny!


N95 vs. iphone - Camera
http://www.youtube.com/v/p6Q5QuhQzIE

N95 vs. iphone - MMS
http://www.youtube.com/v/KTNgTsq8l08

N95 vs. iphone - Ringtone
http://www.youtube.com/v/Nqhwx2tb0WU

N95 vs. iphone - Internet
http://www.youtube.com/v/MwrE5UCUf7s

N95 vs. iphone - GPS
http://www.youtube.com/v/GecftG1Kh7w

N95 vs. iphone - Battery
http://www.youtube.com/v/e1-8DpRNGNE

N95 vs. iphone: youtube
http://www.youtube.com/v/BrJp20O-tmE

SMS Chat on N95
http://www.youtube.com/v/Hktw5hm-fnM


Just Amazing


Cnet: Apple iPhone vs. Nokia n95! MUST SEE  Well,Iphone won this contest.
http://www.youtube.com/v/trsDjosYukk


        User friendly UI or Features?
(http://www.psycho-central.com/index_files/page1_blog_entry40_3.png)

(http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/f2f.jpg)
            Take your pick!











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Apple iPhone hits O2 in the UK on November 9th
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/18/apple-iphone-hits-o2-in-the-uk-on-november-9th/

Ending months of intense, practically insane speculation, Apple just confirmed its first European carrier for the iPhone: O2 is scoring exclusive UK rights to the hotly contested device, and will be launching it on November 9th for £269 including VAT. Unlimited data comes standard with the £35, £45 and £55 voice plans, which include 200, 600 and 1200 minutes, respectively, and 200 SMS for the cheapest plan, but 500 messages for the other two. Just like the rumors (finally) predicted, Carphone Warehouse is being pulled in to beef up retail presence for O2, with 1300 retail locations, each with an "expert" on the iPhone. Naturally, Apple's not doing anything fancy here, and is announcing the same old EDGE phone we know and love here in the States -- shattering the 2007 3G pipe dreams of millions of Europeans -- but has made up for it slightly by scoring free WiFi for O2 iPhone users at the 7,500 hotspots serviced by Cloud in the UK. Those hotspots will certainly come in handy when trapesing through O2's EDGE-deficient network -- only 30% of the country will be covered by launch time. Of course, if you aren't keen on Visual Voicemail or Apple's blessing, there are certainly plenty of unlocked iPhones to be had between now and launch.


Iphone´s UI on Symbian UIQ 3.0 (SE M600)
http://www.youtube.com/v/k0MqPMMBUqQ&autoplay=0

Iphone´s UI on Symbian S60 3.1 (N95)
http://www.youtube.com/v/RRXXxf053do

Nokia previews iPhone-like user interface
http://www.youtube.com/v/1xSdOQmhCpQ



funny to see all the imitations..lol

we knew they were coming... but nothing is like the real thing.

http://www.youtube.com/v/YgW7or1TuFk

just amazing


I don´t know if you noticed it,but those Iphone UI´s for Symbian is made by fans/haters not Symbian.


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GDesk by FiendSoft
http://my-symbian.com/uiq3/software/applications.php?fldAuto=175&faq=3

GDesk is a customizable and extendable desktop system. Icons can be placed on the desktop representing applications, page links and plug-ins; these can then be launched by tapping them. Plug-ins can be added at any time and as required; further plug-in functionality will be provided over time.

Got an Symbian UIQ phone and want Iphone´s UI or Windows Mobile,why don´t you make your own UI?
Well,you can do it yourself just hit this link and download the tools;

http://my-symbian.com/uiq3/software/applications.php?fldAuto=175&faq=3
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 19, 2007, 09:18:24 AM
those iphone vs n95 video was funny!  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 19, 2007, 11:35:18 AM
What? doesn't iPhone have mms either ?
NOPE!
But,then again how often do you use MMS?

I don't use it quite often, but it's good to have....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 19, 2007, 05:26:05 PM
those iphone vs n95 video was funny!  8)

Yeah,some people act like Iphone is the first phone that could do this or that.
Symbian and Windows Mobile had all that shit years ago.
Another funny fact;
The web-browser that comes with Symbian S60 3.1 is Safari,yes I said it Safari,so Symbian S60 3.1 user can use Iphone´s infamous online applications,games and their widgets. That´s right,but Safari sucks,sorry to say it EJ.Rizo,that´s why we use Opera,the best web browser any format.


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"Safari" on N95 only found a European Video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/rEIs8KtT0yQ&autoplay=0
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/safari-based-browser-coming-to-nokia-n800.html

Just when we’ve got Mozilla browser engine, Sand-labs.org announced the OWB (Origyn Web Browser) - Webkit based browser is about to hit the Nokia N800. The built in Opera was just not good enough for handling complex JavaScripts (i.e. AJAX), but then again the current release of Mozilla engine is still buggy and I find my N800 crashing whenever more complex page is loading in the browser.

Will Origyn Web Browser bring something new to the table? According to several sources around the web, WebKit, which is used in Apple’s Safari is known to outperform other browsers on low powered machines. For instance, Nokia is using WebKit code for its S60 browser for years, and people love it!

At this stage, Sand-Labs is still working on bugs, but hopefully soon enough we’ll have another browser available for N800, and… following the keyboard and scrolling, we’ll be one step closer to turn our N800s into iPhones… No, I don’t want to do that!



What? doesn't iPhone have mms either ?
NOPE!
But,then again how often do you use MMS?

I don't use it quite often, but it's good to have....


True,I was just saying.... that´s not exactly the most important feature.
You got to look at the bigger picture,Iphone is "missing" a lot of features,some of them like the MMS and Bluetooth issue will hopefully be fixed with future software updates.
What Iphone got,is a user friendly UI
and it syncs(music,contacts,notes,calender,bookmarks and what not) automaticly with your Mac,
so does Windows Mobile phones if you got a Windows computer.

All this drama around Iphone is hilarious,it´s just hype and the hype killed it.
Fuck hype,buy whatever suits your needs.







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Neonode N2 - the intuitive phone
http://www.neonode.se/en-gb/products/

Neonode N2 is designed for advanced simplicity. Forget about all old touch screens with stylus and pressure and enjoy a new breed, the optical touch screen. You do everything on-screen, simple and convenient with just one finger. It’s truly easy and intuitive to use. To make it convenient and fast to access all features and content of the device, we also designed our own user interface. It has a similar structure to a PC, but without deep and complex menus.

(http://www.mobilewhack.com/neonode2-thumb.jpg)
The smallest "Smart Phone" in the world Check the video!
http://www.youtube.com/v/2len4yAnwmc

Optical touch screen

Forget about all old touch screens with stylus or hard pressure and enjoy the new breed, the optical touch screen. You sweep over and tap the screen to access the different features. When you want to call or send an SMS you enter the numbers and letters directly on-screen. Everything is easy to do with just one hand.
 
Easy user interface

To maximize the use of the fast optical touch screen we designed the user interface. Easy to learn and easy to use, it’s intuitive. To access your menu from the start page you sweep from the bottom left and up and the menu appears. Now you can tap the icons to choose what you want to access and you will access it right away.

If you sweep from bottom and up in the middle of the start page you access the keypad to enter the number to call or the text of an SMS. A sweep from the bottom and up at the right side of the start page gives you access to the tools bar. For more information about the user interface and how to use it together with the optical touch screen, see the Users guide in the Support section.
 
 
Upgradeable platform

Our mobile devices are in a way more like small PC´s than advanced mobile phones. It’s more of an open platform that you can fill with the software and features you want to have. If you want, you can develop your own software or download third party applications available on the Internet.

We also regularly release software updates that you can upgrade your device with free of charge.
 
 
PC Connectivity

The device can operate in two different modes while connected to a computer via USB-cable, either in phone mode or as a USB disk. When turned on, it operates in phone mode. Turned off, it operates as a USB disk.

When you connect your device to a computer in phone mode you can, by using ActiveSync from Microsoft, synchronize the calendar and address book with Outlook. When you connect your device to a computer as a USB disk, it will appear on your computer as a Removable disk and you can transfer files quick and easy as well as download updates from our website. The PC connectivity also works via Bluetooth.

Information

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Neonode N2
Storage:
MiniSD card
User interface:
Neno user interface
Applications:
MP3 Player (MP3, WMA, Wav), Calendar and Address book synchronized using ActiveSync
Telephony:
GSM Quad band 850, 900, 1800 and 1900 MHz bands, GPRS
Messaging:
SMS and MMS
Bluetooth:
OBEX, Headset, FTP profiles supported
LCD:
2,0” (176x220 pixels) color display. 65K colors
Audio:
Stereo sound in headphones, Mono loudspeaker, Vibration engine
Image:
2 Mega pixel Fixed Focus Camera, Still pictures, Video play-back (MPEG, WMV)
Dimensions:
47x77x14,7 mm (WxHxT) Weight: Approx 60 grams
 








Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 19, 2007, 08:35:16 PM
iphone will sync with your PC too not just mac... but you use outlook or outlook express to sync with it... works well i seen it.

and i doubt that safari on symbian is anything like safari on iphone..

i love safari the browser i use on my mac and phone now.

but not on a pc... at work i use firefox
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 19, 2007, 09:39:44 PM
iphone will sync with your PC too not just mac... but you use outlook or outlook express to sync with it...
works well i seen it and i doubt that safari on symbian is anything like safari on iphone..
i love safari the browser i use on my mac and phone now.
but not on a pc... at work i use firefox


Well,the Safari browser on Symbian is a little annoying,
I don´t know if you have tried Opera Mini Beta 4.0?(it´s not out yet,but you can test it)
Opera(mini) "copied" some of the traits on the Safari browser like the zoom and having a couple of pages open at the same time. The standard Opera browser for smart phones can do all this with no problem,but I actually prefer Opera Mini 3.X. So I wont upgrade to the new version.
Back to the Safari browser,since most screens that run on Symbian S60 is smaller than the Iphone screen and the online applications,games and widgets is optimized for Iphone´s screen size,you got to scroll.
But then again "we" don´t need to use those online solutions.

Of course the Iphone will sync with Windows if you install the sync cd and as you said it syncs with outlook,
so will Symbian phones do to,but it doesn´t go automatic like it would do with a
Apple computer with a Apple phone or a Windows phone with a Windows computer.
Like you said before; intergration is the key word.
When you plug in a Windows phone(via USB) to your Windows computer everything goes automatic,
you don´t have to install any cd or start any programs everything goes automatic.
I assume it does the same with Iphone and a Apple computer(?).



(http://www.opera.com/img/products/mobile/campaign/topbanner_03.gif)
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Opera Mobile™
http://www.opera.com/img/products/mobile/campaign/topbanner_03.gif

Opera is the fastest, most secure browser available for Symbian and Windows mobile handsets.
Go to the mobile download page to get Opera on your device.
Go to the mobile download page to see if your phone is supported.
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/

Note; Some Symbian phones has Opera web browser pre-installed.


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Opera Mini for "simple" JAVA phone´s
http://www.operamini.com/
(http://mobile.phpmagazine.net/upload/2006/11/opera_mini_version_3_to_invade/OperaMini3.jpg)

All your favorite Web sites now fit on your phone. Check your email, check your friends' blogs, or just check out the daily dish. Download Opera Mini to get any Web site, anywhere, any time.
Quick download of Opera Mini 3.1
www.mini.opera.com/app

Note; Works on "smart" phones as well.



Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 20, 2007, 04:10:55 AM

What? doesn't iPhone have mms either ?
NOPE!
But,then again how often do you use MMS?

I don't use it quite often, but it's good to have....


True,I was just saying.... that´s not exactly the most important feature.
You got to look at the bigger picture,Iphone is "missing" a lot of features,some of them like the MMS and Bluetooth issue will hopefully be fixed with future software updates.
What Iphone got,is a user friendly UI
and it syncs(music,contacts,notes,calender,bookmarks and what not) automaticly with your Mac,
so does Windows Mobile phones if you got a Windows computer.

All this drama around Iphone is hilarious,it´s just hype and the hype killed it.
Fuck hype,buy whatever suits your needs.


Yeah, that's why I'm sticking to SE, and will wait for the k850i






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Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 20, 2007, 01:58:23 PM
questiong to tusken Raider... why do you keep chaning the thread? its really wierd... seems like you are tryiing to group stuff. but its honestly way more confusing..lol..

 what happen to just going to the last post to see whats going on... right now im like why they hell does he keep bumpin that phone to the last post?..

anyway kinda annoying
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 20, 2007, 04:18:10 PM
questiong to tusken Raider... why do you keep chaning the thread? its really wierd... seems like you are tryiing to group stuff. but its honestly way more confusing..lol..

 what happen to just going to the last post to see whats going on... right now im like why they hell does he keep bumpin that phone to the last post?..

anyway kinda annoying

Sorry,yes you´re right I try to "group"/organize stuff. Like to organize so one "convo" can be read all the way trough.
I bumped the Neonode phone post cause there was no reply´s on it. Did you check it out? Worlds smallest smart phone with touchscreen and it runs windows(not windows mobile),some kind of version of Windows XP like your phone runs some kind of version of OS X. I got some new shit coming in a minute,just got on the computer.



The information about the safari browser was a little incorect,you can read for yourself....
The web browser can access the online applications meant only for the Iphone that´s where I got confused,looks like it runs mozilla instead not Safari,I don´t use it I prefer Opera.

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"Safari" on N95 only found a European Video.
http://www.youtube.com/v/rEIs8KtT0yQ&autoplay=0
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/03/safari-based-browser-coming-to-nokia-n800.html

Just when we’ve got Mozilla browser engine, Sand-labs.org announced the OWB (Origyn Web Browser) - Webkit based browser is about to hit the Nokia N800. The built in Opera was just not good enough for handling complex JavaScripts (i.e. AJAX), but then again the current release of Mozilla engine is still buggy and I find my N800 crashing whenever more complex page is loading in the browser.

Will Origyn Web Browser bring something new to the table? According to several sources around the web, WebKit, which is used in Apple’s Safari is known to outperform other browsers on low powered machines. For instance, Nokia is using WebKit code for its S60 browser for years, and people love it!

At this stage, Sand-Labs is still working on bugs, but hopefully soon enough we’ll have another browser available for N800, and… following the keyboard and scrolling, we’ll be one step closer to turn our N800s into iPhones… No, I don’t want to do that!



Here you can read how I got the mix up,with comments from other readers;

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iPhone will be the first phone with a truly full-blown Web browser??!
Posted by Franklin at 02:07 PM | Categories: General
http://blogs.s60.com/browser/2007/06/iphone_will_be_the_first_phone_1.html


Hi, everyone, Franklin here -- my first post. Peter finally paid up :)

We're excited that iPhone will have the same browser as S60. There are over a dozen different mobile browsers in the market, most proprietary, all with different limitations and problems -- a web developer's nightmare. I can't even call it "browser wars" -- more like "browser mosh pit."

So our dream is that phone manufacturers everywhere will adopt the same open, full browser engine as we have, and to encourage that we've contributed code to open source. Open is good for everyone.

But when Harry McCracken writes in PC World, "[t]oday's demo was the most tangible proof yet that the iPhone will be the first phone with a truly full-blown Web browser" I have to squirm a little. Reality Distortion Field is powerful... must...not...submit....

You all know that Nokia shipped the first "truly full-blown Web browser" on a phone, back in March 2006. He even goes on to praise our browser in the next paragraph -- thanks, Harry!

But we had it first. So there.

Some of the coolest phones that have our full browser with Mini Map, Visual History and other nifty features are the Nokia Nseries Multimedia Computers. To date over 50 million S60 3rd Edition phones from Nokia, Samsung and LG have shipped! (About half of the 100 million S60 phones are 3rd Edition.)

All running the best web browser in the world ;)

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The lack of technical competence of the typical Symbian user never ceases to amaze me. This is the S60 site for gods sake. The browsers on Symbian & iPhone are NOT the same, based on the same code yes but you cannot do everything you can with a desktop brower on the S60 3rd browser. That is what the term 'Full Web Browser' refers to. The latest Opera is the only full browser for mobile devices other than iPhones. If you're going to write an article it usually does well to know what you're talking about.
Posted by: daedalia | August 6, 2007 04:47 AM

Hello!

Is it true that the iPhone does not have even FlashLite 1.0?

How about the security threat regarding Safari browser on the iPhone? Does that effect Safari based browsers on S60?

Best Regards!
Aron
Posted by: Aron | July 3, 2007 07:46 AM

I have been a loyal Nokia phone user for some time now, but only because there used to be no better alternative, until now. If the iPhone, in reality, matches the elegance of the device shown in the twenty minute tutorial that Apple has recently posted on its site, then it totally blows away ANYTHING Nokia has from a SOFTWARE perspective.

I have both a E61 and a N-770 and neither come close to providing the ease of use promised by the iPhone. The "Moose on the table" is NOT that, sure, you can do the equivalent things or more on a Nokia device vs the iPhone (The brilliant Opera Mini beta being a recent excellent example, although it's still in beta and eats up all of the available RAM of the E61). The point is that it seems that you don't have to have a graduate degree at Geek University to actually productively use the full capabilities of the iPhone.

Apple has simply raised the bar,in my opinion, with their UI and Nokia's only hope is to leap ahead or be resigned to joining the commodity bin with Motorola, etc. I know that I plan to be kicking both my 770(which has NEVER worked reliably) and E61 (capable but a mess to configure, slow to respond UI, and with a browser prone to reboot the device on a regular basis -- and I do have the latest firmware, FYI) to the curb for the iPhone in the near future.

Sure, the iPhone will not be perfect, but Nokia is FAR from perfect, as well. I believe this round goes to Apple as the iPhone seems to have everything I currently desire on my phone (except the ability to use other carriers other than AT&T). I look forward to Nokia becoming more competitive in the future, but they need to focus on making a phone that is as much a delight to use as it is powerful.

I have seen the future and it is software. I sincerely hope that the iPhone will be a tremendous success, if only to force other mobile phone manufacturers like Nokia to wake up and realize that amateur hour is over. You and I deserve better.
Posted by: EarlS | June 24, 2007 12:55 AM

The browser is probably where the S60 gets closest to the apparent ease and intuitivity of the iPhone UI.

Just watch the product demo video the Apple site, and then HONESTLY say you are not at least somewhat impressed (by the UI in general, and to much lesser extent the browser).

N800 gets even closer in terms of the browser, but obviously is not a phone. Try getting to a embedded link on the S60 browser. How many clicks did you need? But that's just because the iPhone is TS of course.

One thing that S60 could do a LOT better (and the iPhone UI seems to do better): trust the USER. WHY WHY WHY every time I do something I have to CONFIRM. Delete a SMS. "Are you sure? Are you really sure?" Why not instead just delete and move the deleted message to a trash folder from which you can restore (e.g. within the next 24 hours after which it auto empties it)? Sorry to rant about a non-browser thing here though.. :)
Posted by: Viipottaja | June 23, 2007 08:17 AM

I am reading this with my N73. The browser almost never crashes. And after yesterday's fw update, the font color problem with black themes is also gone. The browser is really wonderful! Thank you!
Posted by: Jukka | June 16, 2007 01:58 AM

a) I'm also hoping the new browser will be downloadable, or in a firmware update for the N80 - this would be really great to see
b) All of the current Nxx devices are wowfully low in RAM. I have an N80 which frequently runs out when using the new browser, and usually end up using Opera mini instead.
Posted by: Nigel Jones | June 15, 2007 11:58 AM

I don't care about back ported browsers, I'd like my money back please.

Boom
Posted by: akBoom | June 15, 2007 09:54 AM

Yea, lack of RAM in Nokias devices is also driving me crazy since it renders the OSS browser useless.

PS: Did i ever say: We FP0 users want the FP1 browser backported! :)
Posted by: Robert | June 15, 2007 09:50 AM

You should stop giving this OSS browser away in devices that can't handle it. It almost never ever works on the N91-2, you guessed it; out of memory.

Why spoil your own reputation and give a product that can never work?

It's not like you are offering refunds for idiots like me who bought the phone, nor are you providing any support.

For people who have access to NSU, they can try and try to upgrade hoping something gets fixed; for the other poor souls you want them to get a ticket at the local nokia service centre, stand in a queue wait for an hour or two and have their fw updated?

Oh, and if something is wrong with the hw then you've got to leave the phone behind, without even talking to any tech person to find out what the problem could be and how long it would take to fix it.

Thanks but no thanks; there are other options available. If you're thinking why I am so mad; well I paid USD 600/- for a piece %^&* N91-2 which doesn't do what it says on the box and whose SW almost always (99% downtime) never works, should I praise it or Nokia? I got this because it was the only 8gb option back then. Well I've now got the iPhone and the SE walkman to choose from.

And don't tell me you are only the browser group and can't answer for others; you are NOKIA, you made my phone, I paid you money for it, your product doesn't work, your browser doesn't work. I'm not complaining to you about the whole load of other &*%$ that doesn't work.

Boom

PS: I am a Nokia loyalist, have never owned another brand since 1996 I think. I will probably replace my 9300i with the E90 but after thoroughly reviewing it. I will never ever make the mistake of buying a Nokia from the heart, I'll use my head.
Posted by: akBoom | June 15, 2007 07:56 AM

Apparently the iPhone browser will not be able to display Flash content, whereas the S60 FP1 browser CAN display Flash content. Surely that makes the S60 FP1 browser better than the iPhone one?

iPhone browser won't have Flash
www.intomobile.com/2007/06/14/apple-iphone-will-not-have-flash-support-wwdc.html

Demo of the 6110 (including a page in Flash at 3:48)
http://www.neoncherry.com/gadgetpictureshow/readarticle.php?article_id=24
Posted by: krisse | June 15, 2007 04:16 AM

so what about the rumor in late march that said the new brower will be available for fp0 users in one month timeframe? was it all a bad joke?
that would be very sad since im really really much waiting for a browser update for my N80IE. i mean its called internet edition and does perform worse now then other non-ie cheapo phones like 6290.
i hope you guys can push out dat browser.

stay with the browser and i will go for the iphone. its that simple. im sure apple has also built in loads of ram for a really nice web experience. not that crap like in n80 where you cant even open a simple page without the browser crashing.

dick, out n over
Posted by: dick | June 14, 2007 12:11 PM

Hello Everyone!

I must defend the S60 browser team and the S60 browser. I truly believe it was the first PC-compatible looking and usable browser through WLAN-s in phones.

You must see a 416x350 pixel device zoomed to 50% with a web page to understand what I am talking about. Try to reproduce that with any other mobile browser...

And about crashing... use the latest firmware and - well I know it is no excuse - reboot the phone before starting to browse. :-) If you have an E70-reboot it with open keyboard. That way you will keep the memory in an open position. :-)

I am not saying there are no problems, far from it, but let us give credit where it is due: The S60 browser is fantastic!

Now all that said, please give us the upgraded (and debugged) browser for S60 V3 FP0! :-)

Thanks and Best Regards!
Aron
Posted by: Aron | June 14, 2007 11:09 AM

I have yet to see a full blown browser on S60! The E61's browser is close but it is terrible at rendering some sites. If the iPhone does what it says it will... e.g. Safari on a phone then Nokia is in a world of hurt.

I think the one thing Apple will instill in Nokia's S60 strategy is the fact that applications will be updated. Gone will be the days of stale applications that are tied to firmware. So we put it to Nokia again...

Where is the S60 standalone browser package? WHO do we need to get the message to that the user base isn't asking, we are demanding.

At some point that demanding will stop and we will have moved onto other devices. Devices with applications that are updated.

If Nokia is worried about no-one buying new phones if all phones are upgradeable then ponder this... Where are new phone form factors? Where are new hw features (e.g. better cameras, GPS, improved wireless, enhanced network support/multiband UMTS)... There are always reasons people will upgrade the HW - give us the ability to now upgrade the sw.
Posted by: NickP | June 13, 2007 12:47 PM

The Nokia Communicator 9210i was released in 2002 with a full-blown Opera Mobile browser (based on the Opera 6 core). With a full QWERTY keyboard and a 640×200 screen, I think that predates most of the entries listed above.

(Full disclosure: I worked on the project)
Posted by: Peter Karlsson | June 13, 2007 04:47 AM

Sorry to steal your thunder but I consider the Windows Mobile Pocket PC Phone had the first full browser (Pocket Internet Explorer)... but what does it really matter?
Posted by: Simon | June 12, 2007 06:18 PM

Hello Franklin!

Please check Tommi's blog! He was so kind to raise my questions about Your S60 browser to a topic in his blog recently.

You must be aware that Your browser - which can save also web pages - is only available for FP1 phones. So from 25 million how many is that?

WOULD YOU CALL your browser a full blown web browser WITHOUT the possibility to save the beautifully displayed web pages? (S60 V3 FP0)


...


...


I would! But please let us soon save the pages, and give us the "sis" distribution of the Web 2 browser.

In any case I agree with you, that you have been the revolutionaries in mobile browsing! Especially if you consider the pixel count of the E70! Only 5% lower than the iPhone!!! Shocking!

Open an E70, load a page, zoom 50% by pushing # twice, watch a readable full page on the E70 screen. Beautiful!

Thank You & Best Regards!

Aron
Posted by: Aron | June 12, 2007 05:23 PM

Franklin, I've updated to 4.0707.0.7 which I believe to be the latest firmware.

I haven't really seen any improvement, though. In fact, the earlier versions actually displayed some images from time to time. Every version crashes after a couple of pages, though.

Could you please poke someone to include this "vastly improved" browser in a firmware update for N80?
Posted by: DanH | June 12, 2007 04:18 PM

I'm curious why we didn't use the S60 browser on the Nokia N800.
Posted by: PhoneBoy  | June 12, 2007 04:12 PM

DanH, it's true-- the N80 is sadly lacking in memory. But it also originally shipped with very early browser software that was vastly improved in later phones.

There should be a firmware update for N80. I'm only a browser guy, and I can't promise you anything, but if you haven't tried yet, check out Nokia Software Updater and see if that helps.
Posted by: Franklin | June 12, 2007 04:02 PM

I hate to be the guy who points this out, but you're absolutely correct. What's the difference in the iPhone and S60 devices? MARKETING. Nokia and SE have missed a TREMENDOUS opportunity with the iPhone to get the word out to people about their devices.

I've said this time and time again in different places. The only thing revolutionary about the iPhone is that it has finally convinced Americans that it's ok to spend more than $10 on a mobile phone. Nokia's S60 devices have had the exact same features (N91 4GB and 8GB) for over a year now, but Nokia didn't see the point in marketing them in the US.

Hopefully someone at Nokia is getting a swift kick in the pants over this one. And hopefully we'll see Nokia doing some actual marketing.
Posted by: Ricky Cadden | June 12, 2007 03:55 PM

My N80's browser may be "full-blown" (whatever that means), but it sure blows up a lot.

Pretty much any even slightly complex web page causes it to crash (with or without telling me to close "other applications"). The few times it actually shows anything, pretty much every image is invisible (although the browser seems to download them all, they are just not shown).

So, if the iPhone has a full-blown browser that actually works, then it might indeed be a first.
Posted by: DanH | June 12, 2007 03:53 PM

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 20, 2007, 04:35:32 PM
im off this week but i dont think the v1615 is coming out until october now, still waiting to loan one out and have a play. the new htc device still seems like the best overall 'smartphone' out there period.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 20, 2007, 05:03:26 PM
cant wait to have the improved windows live functionality built into windows mobile 6 on a mobile device, gonna be real useful when i do more travelling next year. the crappy version of msn i was using on the qtek 9100 was still great and used hardly any data when i used it heavily for a whole week. just have to see if vodafone removed all the live functionality like i mentioned before because the S710 didn't have jack on it and checking all the windows mobile 6 documentation it seems like the classic, standard and pro versions all have this cool improved version of pocket msn on to start with. damn operators...

i've definitely started to warm to the n95 a little bit more, am comfortable selling them now as to be fair it is a stupidly high specced device i just always warn people about the horrible battery life. personally i can't stand nokia generally just based on the sheer amount of software issues that a lot of their devices have and the superior battery life/prefferable music player on the SE phones. i might of said before but the nokia 6110 navigator is the best nokia out there imo. i used it for a week and it might not have smart phone features like wi-fi or the 5mp camera but the satnav function is a breeze to use, has all the voice licensing included unlike the n95 where you gotta pay extra for that and is assisted gps too so uses your mobile signal as well as sateillites to triangulate your position and give you a faster gps fix. the symbian OS (i think its symbian again on this one) is actually super fast, faster than the n95. the battery life is decent too, even when using gps.

the k850i drops in a couple of weeks which will pretty off kill of the n95 as the best camera phone but i guess it depends what features you want. personally i like to have a smaller pesonal mobile with good camera, great battery life and music playing facilities (which is currently the SE k810i) and also have a seperate pda device for all your data browsing smart phone media navigating needs for if and when you need that added functionality. the nokia 6110 made me reassess that slightly cause it is hella useful to have your gps along with all your normal phone stuff in one nice compact slider device. when you have to drive around to random places a lot its a damn handy feature to always have on you.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 20, 2007, 05:26:50 PM
you can do but i'd always prefer an official client (im a dummy i know) and it seems like the one in windows mobile 6 is really good in terms of contact status alerting, multiple conversation management, smilies and all that kinda crap. i know the unofficial clients prolly do all that stuff as well but, you know 8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 20, 2007, 05:48:42 PM
all i know is that the official msn client on my 9100 was efficient as hell with data use and performed its key function - allowing me to talk to people. it was crap in terms of i couldn't do multiple convos or see smilies but that wasn't the point, it was still mobile pimping. the client with windows mobiles 6 seems to be waaay more advanced and does all the shit you could want it to for msn'ing. as it 'should' be included with my device of choice then i really don't see the need to look outside of that...for now........
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 20, 2007, 06:09:01 PM
nope i hardly ever used any of my mobiles devices for web browsing, although yeah the mobile IE aint great. i always thought theres only so much you can do with a certain size of screen though, for example the E90 is absolutely awesome for web browsing even on its default browser cause of the screen size and resolution. but ima deff give some different browsers like that mobile opera a try on my phones in the future...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 20, 2007, 06:19:25 PM
im off this week but i dont think the v1615 is coming out until october now, still waiting to loan one out and have a play. the new htc device still seems like the best overall 'smartphone' out there period.

Yeah,can´t wait myself,it´s a beast.
It´s coming out on AT&T as 8925.
So for everyone that´s looking for HTC 4550/Kaiser beware that most operators re-brand Window phones.



Hey Matty did you read this;
Quote
HTC To Produce Windows Mobile Smartphones for Sony Ericsson
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/340/C13385/

This has got to be the biggest news of the day because it really involves two stories all rolled up into one. Commercial Times of Taiwan is reporting that HTC has received ODM orders from Sony Ericsson to produce Windows Mobile-based smartphones.

HTC is known to manufacture a variety of handsets under countless under other brands, including devices like the AT&T 8525, T-Mobile Dash, and i-mate KJAM. Only recently has the Taiwanese ODM starting making phones under its own banner. It is very surprising that Sony Ericsson would turn to HTC, however, seeing how they are direct competitors using competing operating systems. Up until now, Sony Ericsson smartphones have been powered by Symbian.

Sony Ericsson's first Windows Mobile-based smartphone is expected to ship in the second half of last year. It's also notable that, if true, this would be the first ODM order for HTC from a "first-tier handset vendor." The new handset is projected to account for 10-20% of HTC's total shipments for 2008.



.....and Matty we need you in this thread
since you´re the "expert" on Windows mobile or at least you got a lot of experince with them.





Cant wait to have the improved Windows Live functionality built into Windows Mobile 6 on a mobile device, gonna be real useful when i do more travelling next year.
The crappy version of MSN i was using on the QTEK 9100 was still great and used hardly any data when i used it heavily for a whole week.
Just have to see if vodafone removed all the live functionality like i mentioned before because the HTC S710 didn't have jack on it and checking all the Windows Mobile 6 documentation it seems like the classic, standard and pro versions all have this cool improved version of pocket msn on to start with. damn operators...

Yeah,the HTC S710 runs the standard version of Windows Mobile not the pro/pocket pc,
but can´t you download www.agilemessenger.com ?
I tried the free trial a couple of years ago on my old SE P900,it worked fine.
By the way,my friend that bought the QTEK 8300 hates his phone. He said it´s WAY to slow that he don´t bother using most of the features.
He used to have a SE P800,I showed him HTC P4550/Kaiser and told him the processor is faster (200 Mhz VS. 400Mhz).
I posted preview and review of the HTC P4450/Kaiser in a previous post with video and whole nine.




you can do but i'd always prefer an official client (im a dummy i know) and it seems like the one in windows mobile 6 is really good in terms of contact status alerting, multiple conversation management, smilies and all that kinda crap. i know the unofficial clients prolly do all that stuff as well but, you know 8)

I always tought the MSN client that came with Windows Mobile was the shit.
I guess I was wrong,hmmm wait I tried the one you got QTEK 9100 right?
I had that for a couple of weeks for test,from what I can remember the MSN client was pretty good.
What is cool about the www.agilemessenger.com is that it got Push To Talk and you can send photos.
Well,the new version of www.mig33.com can send photo´s as well,but www.agilemessenger.com had that shit years ago.
You know that the Touch UI comes with HTC P4550/Kaiser as well right? That´s dope.....


all i know is that the official msn client on my 9100 was efficient as hell with data use and performed its key function - allowing me to talk to people. it was crap in terms of i couldn't do multiple convos or see smilies but that wasn't the point, it was still mobile pimping. the client with windows mobiles 6 seems to be waaay more advanced and does all the shit you could want it to for msn'ing. as it 'should' be included with my device of choice then i really don't see the need to look outside of that...for now........

True,true,,, I´m not really big on MSN or IM in general,I hardly use it.
So don´t really expect much from it,I activate my MSN when I´m bored or testing out the clients that´s available for cell phone´s. I know that with the new Windows Live client for WM6 you can exchange files not only photo´s,that´s cool.
Since you don´t install anything on your phone,please tell me you at least have installed Opera?
Internet Explorer sucks,pluss that Opera saves you a lot of data traffic with their small screen rendering technology.




nope i hardly ever used any of my mobiles devices for web browsing, although yeah the mobile IE aint great. i always thought theres only so much you can do with a certain size of screen though, for example the E90 is absolutely awesome for web browsing even on its default browser cause of the screen size and resolution. but ima deff give some different browsers like that mobile opera a try on my phones in the future...

I tell you,Opera is the shit,with RSS Feeds and everything.
That´s the first I install when I get a new phone,did you see that Motorola has upgraded the Z8?
They got a new one coming Z10;

Quote
Motorola Z10 landing in October
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/13/motorola-z10-landing-in-october/

Chalk another one up to the eagle-eyed readers who thrive on catching website slips, as this time we're seeing a (since removed) image of the not-yet-released Motorola Z10. Apparently, this sucka looks to be the followup to the Z8, and it was spotted hours ago on O2's "Coming Soon" page. Of course, the only things that are (tentatively) for sure are that this gem will tout a 3.2-megapixel camera, record video at 30fps and offer up 3G access, but considering that the Z10 could launch (officially, that is) next month, we don't have too much longer to wait for specifics.

It got same looks,but better specs....
(http://image.it168.com/product/cBig_pic/0302/150921.jpg)

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 21, 2007, 11:13:44 PM
i've definitely started to warm to the n95 a little bit more, am comfortable selling them now as to be fair it is a stupidly high specced device i just always warn people about the horrible battery life. personally i can't stand nokia generally just based on the sheer amount of software issues that a lot of their devices have and the superior battery life/prefferable music player on the SE phones. i might of said before but the nokia 6110 navigator is the best nokia out there imo. i used it for a week and it might not have smart phone features like wi-fi or the 5mp camera but the satnav function is a breeze to use, has all the voice licensing included unlike the n95 where you gotta pay extra for that and is assisted gps too so uses your mobile signal as well as sateillites to triangulate your position and give you a faster gps fix. the symbian OS (i think its symbian again on this one) is actually super fast, faster than the n95. the battery life is decent too, even when using gps.
You can download a free GPS application from
www.amazegps.com/welcome.php (I posted some info,video and what not in a previous post).
The GPS fix is of course still slow,but at least you don´t have pay Nokia for a subscription.
I have invested in another battery,so now I have 3 battery´s,the battery sucks big time and yeah Symbian has mad software issue´s.



the k850i drops in a couple of weeks which will pretty off kill of the n95 as the best camera phone but i guess it depends what features you want. personally i like to have a smaller pesonal mobile with good camera, great battery life and music playing facilities (which is currently the SE k810i) and also have a seperate pda device for all your data browsing smart phone media navigating needs for if and when you need that added functionality. the nokia 6110 made me reassess that slightly cause it is hella useful to have your gps along with all your normal phone stuff in one nice compact slider device. when you have to drive around to random places a lot its a damn handy feature to always have on you.

The SE K850 is dope,
but still a little sceptic about the new D-Pad/joystick.
But it´s small and as you say SE got good battery life and the A100 OS is stabble,get yourself a better GPS bluetooth reciever and download the free GPS application from www.amazegps.com/welcome.php (it´s JAVA based.)
I use a SE K750 as a extra phone,I must say it´s the best phone I´ve ever had.
To bad it´s a little out dated as features go,I would like a phone with that design,the A100 OS and N95 features,that would be a perfect phone for me. Right now the upcoming N82 looks like the best bet.



SonyEricsson K850
(http://tech.reesun.com/mobile/01/uploadfile/200703/20070323110605139.jpg)
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)
The Joystick;
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/k850_3.jpg)
Here´s a review;
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k850-en.shtml
Technical specifications;
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip3&zone=pp&pid=10868
Sony Ericsson K850 Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/w_Lz8CHzCt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Lz8CHzCt8


Quote
Free GPS JAVA application
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php
(http://www.tecnomaps.com/wp-content/amaze_GPS.jpg)
(http://www.techshout.com/images/amaze-navigation-software.jpg)
(http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/7771_1.jpg)
What is amAze?
amAze is a first of its kind free navigation and local search service. It is free to download and use and it contains wide coverage of maps including aerial photo in Europe, North America,Australia and parts of Asia and Africa.
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php

You will a Bluetooth GPS antenna like this if your phone don´t have a build in GPS antenna
(http://www.davespda.com/images/reviews/globalsat/globalsat02.jpg)
(http://bilder.minhembio.com/bild/index.php?pic_id=139964.jpg)

Globalsat BT-328 Bluetooth GPS
http://www.davespda.com/images/reviews/globalsat/globalsat02.jpg
     Globalsat provides an array of GPS solutions that connect to devices by laptops. The Globalsat BT-328 GPS is about the size of a good lighter. Size is extremely important when it comes to a Bluetooth unit, especially in my book. When you are already carrying a device around, you want your accessories to be as small as possible while still being functional. The good thing about a GPS unit is that it is simply an antenna, so, for the most part, smaller will not detract from the usability. The BT-328 is small enough to fit in the small pocket of my jeans. Actually, it fits rather perfectly in that pocket and technically it is possible to use it while in a pocket. The main shell of the BT-328 is white with a plastic black front and rubber black back. The front face of the device includes the power button, a hole for attaching a wrist strap, and on the right side, the three lights for showing the current status of the device. On the top of the device is the power port for recharging the unit. That is really all there is to the BT-328. Like most Bluetooth GPS units, the device it self it simple and to the point.
     When the GPS is turned on, the three LED’s show the current status of the device. The top light shows red when the device needs to be charged. The middle light shows green for its connection to the satellites. When the light is solid, the GPS is not connected. When the light is flashing, it has connected so satellites. This seems a little backward to me as usually device lights show solid when they are connected and flash while they are trying to connect. The bottom light is blue for Bluetooth connectivity. When the light is flashing slow it is disconnected. When the light is flashing fast it is connected. This is even more confusing then the GPS light because you have to try and count and see if it is about 3 seconds or 1 second. Being that these lights are the only real “user interface” of the device, I would have hoped for them to make a little more sense for easy identification of the functionality (though maybe I am the only one confused by the lighting).
     The Globalsat BT-328 GPS is a rather strong Bluetooth GPS unit including specifications that are on par or better then other GPS on the market. The unit supports 12-channels of parallel connections, which is pretty standard but not top of the line. For most people, 12-channels are enough, though more would increase the connectivity of the unit. For those that know about GPS internals, the chipset in the BT-328 is the SiRF GSC2. It supports a tracking sensitivity of -155dBm. This seems kind of low compared to other GPS units I have looked at, but it does really seem to hurt the performance of the unit. I found the BT-328 to have quick boot times after the initial connection and really quick reacquisition timing coming out of tunnels. For being such a small unit, the battery life is amazing. Rated at 1300 mAh and 16 hours, that is what you get. I have used the device for weeks without having to recharge. Only a cigarette lighter power adapter is included, so you can't charge the device in the house, though since most people will probably be using in the car, it makes sense.
     Included with the BT-328 is a piece of software for your Windows PC or Windows Mobile device. The software, GPS Info, does not do mapping, but makes it easy to check connectivity and the status of the GPS unit. You can see everything from the data being received by device to satellite locations and information about the current position including latitude and longitude. While you still need mapping software, especially with the MDA, it is a lot easy to launch GPS Info to check the connectivity of the GPS before running mapping software that may run slowly on the device. Most mapping programs do include something like GPS Info, but GPS Info is simple, quick, to the point, and very helpful.
     While I have noted some quarks, the unit is very useable with its long battery life and strong connectivity. The Globalsat BT-328 is a great low-powered Bluetooth GPS solution with pricing that is affordable. The BT-328 can be found for about $75, well under the $100 price tag that always deterred me from getting a Bluetooth GPS. Combine with the incredible battery life and good performance, I feel the BT-328 is a good GPS for anyone wanting to add active mapping functionality to their device.

For more on this product or to purchase the Globalsat BT-328, visit:
www.globalsat.com.tw




Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 22, 2007, 06:21:57 AM
i was watching tv and i spotted the nokia convention and they said the new n95 8gig is gonna have a bigger screen and a better battery
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 22, 2007, 12:27:20 PM
hmm that amaze thing has communication probs on my phone which is odd as i can get a gprs/3g connection perfectly and stream video and stuff normally. must be some kind of setting issue though...and opera mini is really exceptionally good as you said...much better than the standard browser on my phone and i'd say much better than vodafone's own website rendering engine on their 'mobile internet' portal too. very clean and tidy indeed, although web browsing is always gonna be limited on a small screen phone.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 22, 2007, 02:08:31 PM
i've definitely started to warm to the n95 a little bit more, am comfortable selling them now as to be fair it is a stupidly high specced device i just always warn people about the horrible battery life. personally i can't stand nokia generally just based on the sheer amount of software issues that a lot of their devices have and the superior battery life/prefferable music player on the SE phones. i might of said before but the nokia 6110 navigator is the best nokia out there imo. i used it for a week and it might not have smart phone features like wi-fi or the 5mp camera but the satnav function is a breeze to use, has all the voice licensing included unlike the n95 where you gotta pay extra for that and is assisted gps too so uses your mobile signal as well as sateillites to triangulate your position and give you a faster gps fix. the symbian OS (i think its symbian again on this one) is actually super fast, faster than the n95. the battery life is decent too, even when using gps.
You can download a free GPS application from
www.amazegps.com/welcome.php (I posted some info,video and what not in a previous post).
The GPS fix is of course still slow,but at least you don´t have pay Nokia for a subscription.
I have invested in another battery,so now I have 3 battery´s,the battery sucks big time and yeah Symbian has mad software issue´s.



the k850i drops in a couple of weeks which will pretty off kill of the n95 as the best camera phone but i guess it depends what features you want. personally i like to have a smaller pesonal mobile with good camera, great battery life and music playing facilities (which is currently the SE k810i) and also have a seperate pda device for all your data browsing smart phone media navigating needs for if and when you need that added functionality. the nokia 6110 made me reassess that slightly cause it is hella useful to have your gps along with all your normal phone stuff in one nice compact slider device. when you have to drive around to random places a lot its a damn handy feature to always have on you.

The SE K850 is dope,
but still a little sceptic about the new D-Pad/joystick.
But it´s small and as you say SE got good battery life and the A100 OS is stabble,get yourself a better GPS bluetooth reciever and download the free GPS application from www.amazegps.com/welcome.php (it´s JAVA based.)
I use a SE K750 as a extra phone,I must say it´s the best phone I´ve ever had.
To bad it´s a little out dated as features go,I would like a phone with that design,the A100 OS and N95 features,that would be a perfect phone for me. Right now the upcoming N82 looks like the best bet.



SonyEricsson K850
(http://tech.reesun.com/mobile/01/uploadfile/200703/20070323110605139.jpg)
(http://www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/2007/6/15/k850i_460_vg.jpg)
The Joystick;
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/k850_3.jpg)
Here´s a review;
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-k850-en.shtml
Technical specifications;
http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&lc=en&ver=4000&template=pip3&zone=pp&pid=10868
Sony Ericsson K850 Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/w_Lz8CHzCt8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Lz8CHzCt8


Quote
Free GPS JAVA application
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php
(http://www.tecnomaps.com/wp-content/amaze_GPS.jpg)
(http://www.techshout.com/images/amaze-navigation-software.jpg)
(http://www.pocketinfo.nl/contentimages/7771_1.jpg)
What is amAze?
amAze is a first of its kind free navigation and local search service. It is free to download and use and it contains wide coverage of maps including aerial photo in Europe, North America,Australia and parts of Asia and Africa.
http://www.amazegps.com/welcome.php

You will a Bluetooth GPS antenna like this if your phone don´t have a build in GPS antenna
(http://www.davespda.com/images/reviews/globalsat/globalsat02.jpg)
(http://bilder.minhembio.com/bild/index.php?pic_id=139964.jpg)

Globalsat BT-328 Bluetooth GPS
http://www.davespda.com/images/reviews/globalsat/globalsat02.jpg
     Globalsat provides an array of GPS solutions that connect to devices by laptops. The Globalsat BT-328 GPS is about the size of a good lighter. Size is extremely important when it comes to a Bluetooth unit, especially in my book. When you are already carrying a device around, you want your accessories to be as small as possible while still being functional. The good thing about a GPS unit is that it is simply an antenna, so, for the most part, smaller will not detract from the usability. The BT-328 is small enough to fit in the small pocket of my jeans. Actually, it fits rather perfectly in that pocket and technically it is possible to use it while in a pocket. The main shell of the BT-328 is white with a plastic black front and rubber black back. The front face of the device includes the power button, a hole for attaching a wrist strap, and on the right side, the three lights for showing the current status of the device. On the top of the device is the power port for recharging the unit. That is really all there is to the BT-328. Like most Bluetooth GPS units, the device it self it simple and to the point.
     When the GPS is turned on, the three LED’s show the current status of the device. The top light shows red when the device needs to be charged. The middle light shows green for its connection to the satellites. When the light is solid, the GPS is not connected. When the light is flashing, it has connected so satellites. This seems a little backward to me as usually device lights show solid when they are connected and flash while they are trying to connect. The bottom light is blue for Bluetooth connectivity. When the light is flashing slow it is disconnected. When the light is flashing fast it is connected. This is even more confusing then the GPS light because you have to try and count and see if it is about 3 seconds or 1 second. Being that these lights are the only real “user interface” of the device, I would have hoped for them to make a little more sense for easy identification of the functionality (though maybe I am the only one confused by the lighting).
     The Globalsat BT-328 GPS is a rather strong Bluetooth GPS unit including specifications that are on par or better then other GPS on the market. The unit supports 12-channels of parallel connections, which is pretty standard but not top of the line. For most people, 12-channels are enough, though more would increase the connectivity of the unit. For those that know about GPS internals, the chipset in the BT-328 is the SiRF GSC2. It supports a tracking sensitivity of -155dBm. This seems kind of low compared to other GPS units I have looked at, but it does really seem to hurt the performance of the unit. I found the BT-328 to have quick boot times after the initial connection and really quick reacquisition timing coming out of tunnels. For being such a small unit, the battery life is amazing. Rated at 1300 mAh and 16 hours, that is what you get. I have used the device for weeks without having to recharge. Only a cigarette lighter power adapter is included, so you can't charge the device in the house, though since most people will probably be using in the car, it makes sense.
     Included with the BT-328 is a piece of software for your Windows PC or Windows Mobile device. The software, GPS Info, does not do mapping, but makes it easy to check connectivity and the status of the GPS unit. You can see everything from the data being received by device to satellite locations and information about the current position including latitude and longitude. While you still need mapping software, especially with the MDA, it is a lot easy to launch GPS Info to check the connectivity of the GPS before running mapping software that may run slowly on the device. Most mapping programs do include something like GPS Info, but GPS Info is simple, quick, to the point, and very helpful.
     While I have noted some quarks, the unit is very useable with its long battery life and strong connectivity. The Globalsat BT-328 is a great low-powered Bluetooth GPS solution with pricing that is affordable. The BT-328 can be found for about $75, well under the $100 price tag that always deterred me from getting a Bluetooth GPS. Combine with the incredible battery life and good performance, I feel the BT-328 is a good GPS for anyone wanting to add active mapping functionality to their device.

For more on this product or to purchase the Globalsat BT-328, visit:
www.globalsat.com.tw









hmm that amaze thing has communication probs on my phone which is odd as i can get a gprs/3g connection perfectly and stream video and stuff normally. must be some kind of setting issue though...and opera mini is really exceptionally good as you said...much better than the standard browser on my phone and i'd say much better than vodafone's own website rendering engine on their 'mobile internet' portal too. very clean and tidy indeed, although web browsing is always gonna be limited on a small screen phone.


Try this address; www.amazegps.com/welcome.php .
Glad you liked the Opera Mini,turn off pictures you don´t need that,saves you a lot of data traffic. Just turn it on when you need it.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: K.Dub on September 22, 2007, 04:59:49 PM
That SE k850i looks soo smoth. But I guess I have to try one before I buy it
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 22, 2007, 05:07:02 PM
yeah i already got the app and everything downloaded for that amaze thing. from reading all the stuff on the website in the forums and stuff seems like a nice little app very efficient with data too, just when it loads up its having communication problems. might be my settings but they should all be perfect, will have to try it on some phones at work too to see, but no biggie as i'd never really want to be using my smaller phone for navigating anyhow, especially as my bluetooth thing is screwed. just gonna get a new pda with integrated reciever in the future like i been saying...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 22, 2007, 05:33:55 PM
yeah its just a trial version thrown in though. its all good though i got a full version on my pc for windows mobile i can load onto mem card ;] that other navigating app looks real crude, i think i'd rather just use my bad sense of direction and following signs as opposed to something so basic...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 22, 2007, 05:40:42 PM
yeah i already got the app and everything downloaded for that amaze thing. from reading all the stuff on the website in the forums and stuff seems like a nice little app very efficient with data too, just when it loads up its having communication problems. might be my settings but they should all be perfect, will have to try it on some phones at work too to see, but no biggie as i'd never really want to be using my smaller phone for navigating anyhow, especially as my bluetooth thing is screwed. just gonna get a new pda with integrated reciever in the future like i been saying...


Another one you can try,this one I have some problems with,let me know if you get it to work.
Nav4All - Free gps navigation for your mobile phone!
http://www.nav4all.com/site2/www.nav4all.com/eng/index.php
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6480/nav4all013im.jpg)
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7889/nav4all227dx.jpg)
(http://blog.xonio.com/media/nav4all.jpg)

yeah its just a trial version thrown in though. its all good though i got a full version on my pc for windows mobile i can load onto mem card ;] that other navigating app looks real crude, i think i'd rather just use my bad sense of direction and following signs as opposed to something so basic...

Ha,ha you´re right.
It got mad options to choose from,so when I have tried to get to work I have to do whole gang of settings before it starts searching for a GPS satelitte.
I have actually never seen any images from that application before today.(never used it myself since I can´t get it to work)






But if you´re going for the HTC P4550/Kaiser there´s no need for any of these applications.
HTC TyTN II/P4550/Kaiser/AT & T 8925 Review Comes with Tom Tom 6 pre-installed
http://www.youtube.com/v/SFgPAO8KkDQ

HTC TyTN II TouchFLO Demo
http://www.youtube.com/v/3kLdDBFbQ-A
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on September 23, 2007, 10:21:51 AM
popular mechanics review of 7 "smartphones"

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/reviews/4220784.html
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 24, 2007, 06:12:58 AM
popular mechanics review of 7 "smartphones"


Smartphone Lab Test: iPhone vs. 7 Top Wireless Wonders
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/reviews/4220784.html
How intelligent does a phone have to be to deserve the title of "smartphone"? Should it be able to retrieve your e-mail? Probably, but not necessarily. Should a smartphone take high-resolution pictures, and play music and movies on the go? Many do-but then again, some don't. "Smartphone" is a nebulous term that is as much marketing spin as it is a distinct category of mobile phone.

Nevertheless, smartphones in one form or another have been around for over a decade, bringing e-mail and productivity software to anyone busy enough to carry their office around in a pocket wherever they go. In recent years, companies such as Palm, Research In Motion (maker of the ubiquitous BlackBerry) and Microsoft (which created the Windows Mobile operating system that works on dozens of third-party phones) have created cheaper devices with more entertainment functionality built in to attract nonbusiness users. The current generation of smartphones is as much about music, movies and multi-mega-pixel photos as it is about e-mail and spreadsheets.

But the slow evolution of smartphones from business tool to cool got a turbo boost recently because of a single new entry in the category. That machine is, of course, Apple's iPhone, and its revolutionary capabilities (click here for video) include everything from Google mapping to weather widgets to graphically displayed voice mail.

One of the common observations about the iPhone since its launch in June is that it wouldn't have seemed so innovative if it weren't for the fact that other smartphones are so frustratingly difficult to use. Anecdotally, we at PM can confirm this, as we review dozens of different phones each year. But until now, we had never tested smartphones head to head. Nor had we ever had such a ballyhooed "ringer" (pardon pun) as the iPhone to put the category in perspective. So immediately after the iPhone's June 29 launch date, we got to work on a showdown between the smartphone wunderkind and seven competing devices. Our selection included phones from all four major cellular providers (AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless) as well as one startup (Helio, which actually runs on Sprint's network). For good measure, we threw in one unlocked Nokia smartphone that runs on either AT&T or T-Mobile.

The main goal of our test was to assess the functionality and ease of use of each device. So we asked seven people who had little to no experience with smartphones to analyze our test devices alongside PM's experts. Our testers evaluated photos from each phone's digital camera, walked around with the devices in their pockets to deliver a "comfort" rating and then sat for a series of grueling time trials for the various functions of each phone. With no practice and no user's manual, testers tried to make a call, send an e-mail, take a photo, play a song and load a Web page on each phone.

Stopwatches don't lie. Apple's intuitive interface guided our testers to songs, photos and Web pages and to most other multimedia destinations in less than half the time of the nearest competitors. E-mail was a different story. The iPhone came in third after Samsung's BlackJack and Palm's Treo. Surprisingly, the photos from the iPhone's 2-megapixel camera came in dead last in our blind evaluation, because of a lack of white balance that gave interior photos a blue cast. Photos from the Nokia N95's 5-megapixel camera rivaled many point-and-shoot stand-alone cameras.

Still, when price was considered, choosing the smartest phone for the money became a close call. Testers liked the Samsung BlackJack and Apple iPhone best overall, with RIM's BlackBerry and Palm's Treo tied for a close second. It turns out smartness comes in all shapes and sizes.




Well,that test doesn´t say anything new or what we  already don't agree on,right?;
Quote
One of the common observations about the iPhone since its launch in June is that it wouldn't have seemed so innovative if it weren't for the fact that other smartphones are so frustratingly difficult to use.

To sum the review up;
(http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/f2f.jpg)

Anyway fuck hype,buy whatever suits your needs.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on September 25, 2007, 11:13:37 PM
Two new IM clients;
Quote
QuickIM: mobile instant messaging anywhere!
http://quickim.com/index.html
(http://screenshots.softonic.com/s2de/42000/42769/1_quickIM_symUIQ_chat.jpg)
(http://scr.softonic.com/s2/40000/40613/4_qui1.jpg)
(http://trials2.smartphone.net/Product_images/1/1370/chatroom.jpg)

QuickIM instant messenger software allows you to connect to public MSN networks and chat with friends from anywhere you are. QuickIM comes with many advanced features, and best of all, all your chat messages are directly sent to MSN as opposed to the gateway model used by many other suppliers.
http://quickim.com/index.html


Mobisophy
http://www.mobisophy.com/
(http://www.mobisophy.com/images/UltraIMPro_Pop_Small.jpg)

Mobisophy Technologies Inc. is an innovative mobile application development company focused on call management,instant messaging, sound and multimedia processing for mobile devices. One product IVCM turn the smartphone into not only an all-in-one call control management system, but also a "Personal Interactive
Playback Assistant". Another product multimedia instant messaging UltraIM empowers you to share your images, music and files in your phone with other friends using instant messenger on PC very easily!
http://www.mobisophy.com/



Widgets for JAVA phones (all phones exept Iphone);
Quote
widsets
https://www.widsets.com/index
(http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/images/upload/1150959726widsets.jpg)
(http://fjprod.com/img/blogs/ma/widsets/widsets.jpg)
(http://www.s60tips.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/WindowsLiveWriter/SomeInterestingWidgetsforyourS60Phones_124EB/widsets_main41.png)

https://www.widsets.com/index



Have yet to try these new applications myself,so feel free to test them and leave a review/feedback.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 26, 2007, 07:11:40 AM
my joystick broke on my n73 so i need to buy a new joystick module

(http://www.gsm-batterij.nl/producten/Joystick_intern.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 26, 2007, 09:54:57 AM
it broke 2 day and im gonna fix it 2 day,i need my cell !!! lol
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on September 26, 2007, 05:32:42 PM
n73 joysticks are always falling off. man i hate that phone...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 27, 2007, 06:41:05 AM
i think im gonna buy like 3-4 joystick module just in case!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on September 27, 2007, 02:31:41 PM
i think im gonna buy like 3-4 joystick module just in case!

yeah,do that. I just found out that my phone supports 4GB memory card with a software upgrade,so I've upgraded it and just bought a 4GB memory card.


nice! since your the master cell guy ill ask you this question! can i do the same with my n73? i wanna have a 4gig card too!!! ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 01, 2007, 11:14:09 AM
not yet! will get one in the next days!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Young Tucc on October 01, 2007, 10:10:18 PM
U R a joke bro....the I Phone has far more swag.....and it's not gay and pink like yours...i have the same phone but in black and i like it a lot but it's not even comparable to the iphone.  I should have known tho, if u like dipset something must be wrong with your judgement.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 02, 2007, 09:43:39 AM
my joystick broke on my n73 so i need to buy a new joystick module

(http://www.gsm-batterij.nl/producten/Joystick_intern.jpg)

Damn,the same happend one of my friends N73 after a month. He still havn't fixed it,he still manage to use it somehow (it's gone almost a year,ha,ha). Well,well he's not a phone freak like us.

it broke 2 day and im gonna fix it 2 day,i need my cell !!! lol





i think im gonna buy like 3-4 joystick module just in case!

yeah,do that. I just found out that my phone supports 4GB memory card with a software upgrade,so I've upgraded it and just bought a 4GB memory card.


nice! since your the master cell guy ill ask you this question! can i do the same with my n73? i wanna have a 4gig card too!!! ;D

I have done some research for you,as you can read by hitting the links there's some problems to be aware off. So I do suggest you read trough them carefully.


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TOPRAM 4GB Mini SD card Problems! With Nokia N73
Www.geek.com/forums/topic.php?id=25954&page

Hey,
I bought a 4gb topram mini sd card for my Nokia N73 phone. I checked with my phone about using a 4gb sd card and it is compatiable. However when I insert the card into my phone my phone suggests it is corrupt! However this is not true, due to when inserting the card to my computer it registers fine and disk check doesnt suggest any problems. At first I thought it might be formating the card. So I formated the card on my desktop all ok. However the corruption is still detected on the phone when inserting it. How can I resolve this problem?

Please Help!

Cris

whiskers @ May 16 2007 7:23pm

Have you already tried to format the card in the phone? If you haven't already tried that I would delete the partitions that the computer created and let the phone format and create the partitions.

The phone may be wanting to use a file system such as FAT instead of FAT32 or NTFS which Windows will want to format the card with.

peter_g @ May 16 2007 8:41pm

I have an N73 myself, but have stuck with the supplied card so far, so can't comment specifically on how the N73 handles "cross-formatting".

However, I have seen memory cards which would format in a computer yet remain unreadable in a camera, and, in those instances, it truly was a corrupt card. Very frustrating, because the card does appear to be fine at the computer end of your setup.

I also point out that the N73 is better in conception than in execution, and it wouldn't surprise me to find that read/write problems are another of the device's endearing qualities, along with system freezes when you take photos, refusal to zoom images and random reboots while messaging.

darksabbath2 @ May 17 2007 5:09pm

Thanks to all,

To Whiskers: I tried to format it in the phone but it doesnt. By this I mean it returns back to the phone format menu without doing any thing. Another thing how can I delete the computer installed partitions? & can I manually format the Card through some program like disk manager? Thanks sorry for sounding like a beginner.

Thanks again.
**Cris**

whiskers @ May 18 2007 1:04pm

When you right click on "My Computer" on a WIndows 2000/XP Computer, choose the option manage. Go down to disk management and wait for a Window to pop up.

Choose disk management and look for your memory stick listed among the other disks. Delete the partitions from your memory stick, just make sure you don't accidentally delete your hard drives partitions instead.

clandeep @ May 19 2007 1:58pm

Check that you have the most current software patch for the phone. Your phone may be compatible, but the software version may not support 4 gig. Try the supplied card to see if it works.

darksabbath2 @ May 20 2007 7:33am

Thanks All you have been helpful. See you Around!

darksabbath2 @ May 21 2007 7:49pm

hey,
I just tried formatting the disk drive to FAT format but my computer now says Error Write protect! How shall I over come this problem?

Thanks again!
Cris

Quote
Nokia N73 PLUS 4Gb SD Card
Http://forums.mobymemory.com/topic5592-11-1.aspx

Hello
I purchased the following Card from mobymemory:

http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD%5F4096mb%5FMOBY%5F002

I coulda sworn when I bought it, it said Nokia compatible. I have tried it in my N73 (when formatted as both FAT32 and FAT) but the phone says that it is corrupt.
The card is fully functional on WinXp via an SD Card reader.

I am really hoping there is a fix! I somehow doubt it, reading around google it seems there are two versions of SD Cards something to do with SHCH or something?

Can anybody help me?

As far as i know, N73 for now, is only compatible with 2Gb miniSD cards (limit). The new ones, with 4Gb, miniSDHC are not for N73, unless, Nokia do a firmware upgrade support for them, but seems not be the case on future firmwares.


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DataKits 4GB miniSD memory card C500 C550 C600 6280 N80
[4GB miniSD]

Www.datakits.co.uk/store/datakits-4gb-minisd-memory-card-c550-c600-6280-n80-n73-p-3074.html

New Low Price, was £39.99

DataKits 4GB miniSD card ( Secure Digital ) complete with a full size SD adapter and storage case in Retail packaging.

The ideal solution for Mobile Phones, Digital cameras, PDAs, MP3 players, Navigation Systems and laptops/notebooks. Comes with a 5 year manufacturer's warranty.

The miniSD memory card offers all of the benefits of a standard SD card, but in a much smaller size. In fact, it is over 60% smaller than a full-sized SD card. The miniSD cards are used to store digital images, video, MP3 files and other data in mobile phones.

The miniSD card includes an adapter that converts the miniSD card into a full size SD card to be used with the growing number of SD compatible devices available in the market.

High Quality Secure Digital unit that features a 5 Year Warranty

Sorry but this card is NOT Compatible with the Nokia N73 N93 & E61. These phones struggle to see the 4GB card bit a 1GB or 2GB miniSD we sell will work perfectly.

The Following models are fully Compatible with this 4GB miniSD card:

Nokia 6280, N80, Orange SPV C600, C500, C550, C500s, Sagem myX-8, i-Mate SP3/SP3i, T-Mobile Vario SDA, O2 miniS X3, O2 X4, Motorola Q, mpX220, Panasonic X700, Sharp 902, 903

With the SD Adapter: O2 XDA II, Orange SPV M1000, Sharp/Vodafone GX-30, Orange/Handspring Treo 600, Orange SPV E100/E200

We have a range of Card Reader/Writers to allow you to back up and write data to these cards. Click here to see them in our store

Specifications:
Storage Capacity: 4 GB (4096MB)
Supper Quick Write Speed
Speedy - ultra-fast data transfer rate up to 10 MB/sec (average)
Efficient - improve productivity with average write speeds of 5 MB/sec.
Solid State: No moving parts to get damaged
Uncompromising data integrity and reliability
Compatible with all digital music players, digital camcorders, handheld PCs, mobile phones and other devices that feature a Secure Digital slot
Backward compatible with SD slots
Tested with a wide range of devices
Plug-and-Play and Hot-Swapping Support
Operating shock rating of 2,000Gs, equivalent to a 10-foot drop to the floor
Unfazed by drastic weather conditions ranging from blistering heat to arctic cold
Low power consumption for longer battery life
Form factor : 21.5mm x 20mm x 1.4mm


Quote
Memory card (MiniSD) crashing phone?
Www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=9366368#post9366368

So I put this new 4GB MiniSD into my equally new N73 and turn it on. It boots properly, then usually when I try to go to the menu, it freezes up and won't function. Buttons still beep but nothing will happen. Off button doesn't even work; have to remove the battery.

Sometimes it gets farther. One time I actually went to the Memory app and tried to format the card, but it just sat with the bar at 0% progress for ages. At some point I switched apps, fiddled around a little, tried to switch back and it froze.

Is this memory card just physically messed up? Is there any way to remedy it? Phone works fine otherwise.


i have the music edition and i also have a 4gb. i does crash sometimes but that is when i press many buttons after about 15-20 of the phone being on and me playing with it the memory stick is fine and does not crash.

i bought my memory stick from ebay so it is not official 4gb it make your fone think its a 1gb but has 4gb capacity

edit:no 4gb will work with any n73 unless nokia update the FW only 2gb will work and the mem stick i have - i got it for £20 - shipped from the USA, not bad. i think that is about $40



OP, you problem is that you bought a SDHC card instead of a SD card.

Sura: 4GB SDHC cards use a different physical form of memory storage. That means that you actually need a different physical reader for them. I doubt the n73 has one, and therefore a FW update won't be able to do anything.

The N95 has a SDHC reader, but it wasn't mentioned in the specs. If the same were true for the n73, it would be able to read the cards.




you can use 4gbs - i do they work fine



yh i have no problems at all, i have about 2gb of songs and tomtom6 all work perfect, i have many games + apps and it takes about 10 secs to load up and see the games in the folder but u will expect that and alos the file manager take a fews secs to lead aswell that because i have used about 3 gb   




Http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=smartphone&message.id=38078




Well,Tony I'm filling up my new card right now. So now I have first hand experience with it (like EJ Rizo like to put it). Like you probably read on those links there is some problems,my computer won't reckonize the card,well it's there but I can't transfer files by usb. Transfer files over bluetooth is no problem. Sdhc don't work on N73,so make sure you get the regular sd 4gb card and update your software then you should be good to go.


Fuck my volume button just broke and my volume is on mute,so I can't hear shit.
So Tony did you get yourself a 4GB card?

not yet! will get one in the next days!!!








Get this one MINI SD!
(http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/media/4GB_mini_SD.jpg)

NOT!!!! SDHC will not work!!
(http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/utilities/gallerythumbnaillarge.php/6782f99681644863b341b9129e74fad1.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: E. J. Rizo on October 03, 2007, 11:08:54 AM
first one looks kinda cool but a little too much... and with Bang & Olufsen its bound to be expensive.. but who knows...

2nd one is more interesting... looks like a pretty cool phone to me.

also Verizon just announced a new so called "iPhone Killer" called the voyager along with a few other phones...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071003/ts_nm/verizon_phones_dc


Verizon unveils iPhone rival for holiday shoppers By Sinead Carew
Wed Oct 3, 4:58 AM ET
 


Verizon Wireless unveiled three new cell phones on Wednesday for the holiday season, including a high-end handset named Voyager that will compete with Apple Inc's iPhone.

The Voyager, made by LG Electronics, trumps the iPhone by offering faster wireless Web access. But in a nod to the Apple device, which is only available to AT&T Inc subscribers, it has a large touch screen and full Web browser.

Verizon Wireless hopes the new phone will attract customers put off by the iPhone's lack of a traditional keypad -- the Voyager hinges open to reveal a small computer keypad and a second screen.

"We think it'll be the best phone ... this year. It will kill the iPhone," Verizon Wireless Chief Marketing Officer Mike Lanman said in an interview.

Current Analysis analyst Avi Greengart said the Voyager may attract existing Verizon subscribers who do not want to switch service providers, but he doubted it would hurt iPhone sales.

"People who want a high-end media phone and want to stay with Verizon will certainly give that one a hard look. I don't know that it would pull anybody away from an iPhone," he said.

The battle for cell phone buyers' hearts this holiday shopping season is shaping up to be even fiercer than usual, as rivals to Apple and AT&T launch new challengers.

Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc and Vodafone Group Plc, has not been first with the hippest phones, but said this line-up is its best yet.

"Typically a carrier brings one, maybe two exciting products to the market in a year. We're bringing four," Lanman said, referring to the three new models and its existing LG Chocolate phone.

Verizon also introduced Juke, an ultra-narrow phone that comes in three colors and is shaped like a chocolate bar. The phone, made by Samsung Electronics, is less than 1 inch wide.

It also unveiled another LG phone, the Venus, which comes in black and pink, and has a phone keypad that slides out from under a touch screen. As with Voyager, it vibrates when a user taps a menu option on the screen.

Verizon Wireless would not give exact pricing beyond saying each phone would target a different segment and range from under $100 to about $400. The iPhone costs $399.

Greengart at Current Analysis said the new Verizon range is a step forward for a company that has been trumped before by AT&T, which sold Motorola Inc's Razr long before Verizon did.

"This is something Verizon had to do," Greengart said. "It's been a long time coming for them to get hotter devices."

Venus and Voyager both have 2-megapixel cameras, and high-speed wireless connections for fast music and video downloads, and a slot for 8 gigabytes of extra memory. The iPhone has 8 gigabytes of built-in storage.

Venus and Voyager will launch before the end of November

The cheapest phone in the range is the Juke, which is narrower than any U.S. phone so far and will go on sale on October 19, Lanman said.

The Juke slides open to reveal a tiny keypad and comes in dark blue, red and teal. It has dedicated keys for playing music but does not have a high-speed wireless link.

Verizon Wireless said it expects to attract more fashion-conscious young users to Juke than those who want to constantly e-mail or Web-surf on cell phones.

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: AnybodyKilla on October 03, 2007, 08:43:59 PM
lol keep dreaming

have fun having to hack your phone just to have ring tones.

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/itoner/

and as a matter of fact i already have my phone loaded even before that... i have a full NES emulator with tons of games on it and have installed native apps on it ... not very hard at all... and trust that apple is going to release new features with time and i think ringtone service from itunes is coming on the 5th along with new ipods... moto has the most crappy os ever... get yourself atleast a sony ericsson before you claim anything being even close to being > than iphone

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/08/07/iphone-nes-fast-usable-totally-rewritten/

LMAO, i know i got the Rizr Z3, its a solid phone dont get me wrong but Motorola SUCKS lol, alot of failed calls n shit. Iphone is fuckin sick, does anything u can possibly think of and then some, i just sold a few today, gonna get mine once i sell my Rizr lol!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 04, 2007, 05:23:18 AM
first one looks kinda cool but a little too much... and with Bang & Olufsen its bound to be expensive.. but who knows...

2nd one is more interesting... looks like a pretty cool phone to me.

also Verizon just announced a new so called "iPhone Killer" called the voyager along with a few other phones...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071003/ts_nm/verizon_phones_dc
(http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/files/2007/10/voyager2.jpg)
LG VX10000 Voyager Preview
http://www.youtube.com/v/ostm0hEu1pg&rel

Quote
LG Voyager, verizon voyager, full phone specification
http://www.newsblogtwist.com/lg-voyager-verizon-voyager-full-phone-specification/

Description:
The LG Voyager VX10000 (VX10k) is the successor of the enV VX9900, upgrading it with huge external touch-sensitive display and only three hardware keys on the front, reminding of the LG PRADA. It is a clamshell that opens in landscape orientation to reveal a big internal display, stereo speakers and QWERTY for messaging. The Voyager supports MediaFlo for Verizon VCast MobileTV service.

LG Voyager specifications:

Network: Type CDMA dual band ( 800/1900 MHz) Data CDMA2000 1xRTT/1xEV-DO rev.0 3G Support Yes

Size: ?

Battery: ? 

Main Display:

Resolution    320 x 240 pixels Type Color, TFT Colors 262 144

Additional Display: Resolution 240 x 320 pixels Type Color, TFT Colors 262 144 Features Touch-sensitive

Camera: ?

Resolution: ?

Multimedia: Video Playback Yes Music Player MP3 format supported , Dual stereo speakers

Memory: Memory Slot microSD (T-Flash)

Input: Predictive Text Input Yes Full Keyboard QWERTY

Connectivity: USB Yes Bluetooth Yes

Other Features: PhoneBook Caller Groups supported, 1000-names capacity, Multiple Numbers Per Contact, Picture ID, Ring ID PIM Alarm, Calendar, Calculator, World Clock, Notepad Voice Dialing, Commands, Recording, Speaker Phone Email Yes GPS Yes

Verizon unveils iPhone rival for holiday shoppers By Sinead Carew
Wed Oct 3, 4:58 AM ET
Verizon Wireless unveiled three new cell phones on Wednesday for the holiday season, including a high-end handset named Voyager that will compete with Apple Inc's iPhone.
The Voyager, made by LG Electronics, trumps the iPhone by offering faster wireless Web access. But in a nod to the Apple device, which is only available to AT&T Inc subscribers, it has a large touch screen and full Web browser.
Verizon Wireless hopes the new phone will attract customers put off by the iPhone's lack of a traditional keypad -- the Voyager hinges open to reveal a small computer keypad and a second screen.
"We think it'll be the best phone ... this year. It will kill the iPhone," Verizon Wireless Chief Marketing Officer Mike Lanman said in an interview.
Current Analysis analyst Avi Greengart said the Voyager may attract existing Verizon subscribers who do not want to switch service providers, but he doubted it would hurt iPhone sales.
"People who want a high-end media phone and want to stay with Verizon will certainly give that one a hard look. I don't know that it would pull anybody away from an iPhone," he said.
The battle for cell phone buyers' hearts this holiday shopping season is shaping up to be even fiercer than usual, as rivals to Apple and AT&T launch new challengers.
Verizon Wireless, owned by Verizon Communications Inc and Vodafone Group Plc, has not been first with the hippest phones, but said this line-up is its best yet.
"Typically a carrier brings one, maybe two exciting products to the market in a year. We're bringing four," Lanman said, referring to the three new models and its existing LG Chocolate phone.
Verizon also introduced Juke, an ultra-narrow phone that comes in three colors and is shaped like a chocolate bar. The phone, made by Samsung Electronics, is less than 1 inch wide.
It also unveiled another LG phone, the Venus, which comes in black and pink, and has a phone keypad that slides out from under a touch screen. As with Voyager, it vibrates when a user taps a menu option on the screen.
Verizon Wireless would not give exact pricing beyond saying each phone would target a different segment and range from under $100 to about $400. The iPhone costs $399.
Greengart at Current Analysis said the new Verizon range is a step forward for a company that has been trumped before by AT&T, which sold Motorola Inc's Razr long before Verizon did.
"This is something Verizon had to do," Greengart said. "It's been a long time coming for them to get hotter devices."
Venus and Voyager both have 2-megapixel cameras, and high-speed wireless connections for fast music and video downloads, and a slot for 8 gigabytes of extra memory. The iPhone has 8 gigabytes of built-in storage.
Venus and Voyager will launch before the end of November
The cheapest phone in the range is the Juke, which is narrower than any U.S. phone so far and will go on sale on October 19, Lanman said.
The Juke slides open to reveal a tiny keypad and comes in dark blue, red and teal. It has dedicated keys for playing music but does not have a high-speed wireless link.
Verizon Wireless said it expects to attract more fashion-conscious young users to Juke than those who want to constantly e-mail or Web-surf on cell phones.

(http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/news/lg/voyager-lg.jpg)
The LG Voyager is ok,the advantages it got over Iphone is build in GPS and TV,expandable memory is good too.


first one looks kinda cool but a little too much... and with Bang & Olufsen its bound to be expensive.. but who knows...

I think I read about 2000$,so it´s a pretty expensive phone. But the UI looks a little fucked(check the video),it´s OK for music but for SMS and calls it´s worthless.

Quote
Samsung Serenata Challenges iPhone
http://news.digitaltrends.com/news/story/14346/samsung_serenata_challenges_iphone
The Serenata's 4GB of storage might be the least impressive thing about it, given the array of off-beat luxury features packed inside by Samsung's partner Bang & Olufsen.

Move over, iPhone. There’s a new high-capacity media phone in town and it's… downright ridiculous. Samsung and Danish design firm Bang & Olufsen revealed their latest collaboration on Tuesday, the Serenata phone. Featuring B&O’s trademark over-the-top design, 4GB of storage and a 2.26-inch LCD screen, the Sereneta might not quite be ready to oust Apple in the technical arena, but as a status symbol, it certainly stands a chance.

The Serenata distinguishes itself from similar devices in a number of ways. For one, it’s not all touch screen. A giant scroll wheel with a center selection button dominates the upper half of the unit. Everything the player does, from music selection to text messaging, can be controlled with the wheel or the integrated touch screen.

In a more significant departure, the Serenata actually has a built-in speaker system. A panel on the back of the unit folds out, allowing it to be propped up, and the front and back of the phone slide apart as they would in a traditional slider phone, revealing two integrated speakers. No word yet on sound quality, but the companies promise rich bass and zero distortion, despite the tiny size of the speakers.

Bang & Olufsen also include some unique features tailored to the busy executive, like its PureMusic mode that cuts off phone calls and text messages to allow a user to relax and listen to music without disruptions. And forget pop-music ringtones, all of the built-in ringtones on the Serenata derive their names from the materials that make them – like steel for wind chimes, aluminum for a triangle, and various woods represented by the sounds they make when hollow.

The phone’s price hasn’t yet been announced, but given Bang & Olufsen’s traditional premiums, it should be just as extravagant as the rest of the phone. The phones are scheduled for a European release by the end of October, a spokesperson told PC World.

(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/samsung/samsung-serenata/samsung-serenata-combo.jpg)
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/samsung/samsung-serenata/samsung-serenata-headset.jpg)
(http://www.techgadgets.in/images/serenata-music-phone.jpg)
(http://www.gizmos.es/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bang-olufsen-serenata.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/a0ImceSEHKg


2nd one is more interesting... looks like a pretty cool phone to me.

Yep,the 400MHz processor should do the job,the previous Touch had "only" 200MHz.
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-Processor Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz

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The HTC Touch DUAL
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_dual.htm

Delivering a revolutionary touch experience that will change the way you use your phone, the HTC Touch™ DUAL combines an intuitive touch screen and slide-out keypad within a stunning design.
Everything you need is at your fingertips. With the push of your thumb, the front panel of the device slides up to reveal a handy smart-sized keyboard. If you prefer using touch, then the revolutionary TouchFLO™ interface lets you quickly browse through e-mails, messages, music and images by using finger gestures, making navigation a breeze.
With the Live HTC Home™ screen, information such as time, new messages, weather updates, and missed calls is just a touch away. Connect using 3.5G, which is 9 times faster than 3G -- wherever you are.

(http://www.pocketnow.com/html/portal/news/0000004516/NewsImage/htc_touch_dual_ps_en_525-high.jpg)

Discover TouchFLO™,
a revolutionary touch-screen technology that allows finger-touch scrolling,panning and photo zooming

-Innovative 3D touch cube interface for quick and easy navigation
-Slide-out 20-key keyboard or 16-key keypad for single-handed typing
-Worldwide connectivity (HSDPA, 3G, and GPRS/EDGE/GSM)
-Windows Mobile® 6 Professional with Direct Push Outlook® e-mail
-Live HTC Home™ featuring time and weather display, quick launcher, and one-touch ring tone settings
-2 megapixel camera for shooting photos/videos and a second camera for video calls

-Processor Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz
-Operating System Windows Mobile® 6 Professional
-Memory ROM: 256MB ; RAM: 128MB SDRAM
-Dimensions 107 mm (L) X 55 mm (W) X 15.8 mm (T)
-Weight 120g with battery
-Display 2.6-inch TFT-LCD with backlight LEDs, touch-sensitive screen
-Network;
-HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz
-HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
-UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
-GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Tri-band 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz
(The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)

Device Control
-HTC TouchFLO™
-5-Way navigation control
-Keyboard or Keypad         
-Slide-out 20-key QWERTY keyboard
-Slide-out 16-key keypad
(Subject to the HTC Touch DUAL model you have)

Connectivity   
-Bluetooth® 2.0
-HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB and audio jack in one), Hi-speed USB 2.0, HTC H2Wire support

Camera   
-Main camera: 2 megapixel color CMOS camera Second camera: CIF CMOS color camera

Audio   
-Built-in microphone and speaker
-Ring tone supported formats:MP3,AAC,AAC+,WMA,WAV&AMR-NB 40 polyphonic&standard MIDI format 0&1(SMF)/SP MIDI

Battery   
-1,120 mAh rechargeable Li-polymer battery
-Standby time: Up to 250 hours for UMTS,Up to 180 hours for GSM
-Talk time: Up to 5 hours for GSM,Up to 3 hours for UMTS,Up to 1.78 hours for video call
(Subject to network and phone usage)

Expansion Slot   
-microSD™ memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)

AC Adapter
-Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC,50/60Hz
-DC output: 5V and 1A

(http://www.techgadgets.in/images/htc-touch-slide.jpg)
HTC Touch Dual Demonstration by eXpansys
http://www.youtube.com/v/Tupk8MYLhMk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tupk8MYLhMk


So what about these models?

Well it´s time to update some news,the biggest news must be that HTC will produce a Windows Mobile "smart phone" due out nexy year,another unconfirmed Windows Mobile is N94 by Nokia,it might be a knock off that those crazy chinese dudes is known for. Time will tell.....

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HTC To Produce Windows Mobile Smartphones for Sony Ericsson
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/340/C13385/

This has got to be the biggest news of the day because it really involves two stories all rolled up into one. Commercial Times of Taiwan is reporting that HTC has received ODM orders from Sony Ericsson to produce Windows Mobile-based smartphones.

HTC is known to manufacture a variety of handsets under countless under other brands, including devices like the AT&T 8525, T-Mobile Dash, and i-mate KJAM. Only recently has the Taiwanese ODM starting making phones under its own banner. It is very surprising that Sony Ericsson would turn to HTC, however, seeing how they are direct competitors using competing operating systems. Up until now, Sony Ericsson smartphones have been powered by Symbian.

Sony Ericsson's first Windows Mobile-based smartphone is expected to ship in the second half of last year. It's also notable that, if true, this would be the first ODM order for HTC from a "first-tier handset vendor." The new handset is projected to account for 10-20% of HTC's total shipments for 2008.




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Nokia's N94i to run Windows Mobile OS, not Symbian? Er, No.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/nokias-n94i-to-run-windows-mobile-not-symbian/

Believe everything you see? Good, then this is an unannounced Nokia N94i running the Windows Mobile (not Symbian) operating system. We have no way of knowing for sure, but that looks like an engineering prototype Chinese knockoff of something which has gone up for auction somewhere on this great blue planet. According to the listed specs, we're looking at a touchscreen (with stylus) multimedia device synonymous with the N-Series packing a 2 megapixel camera, speakerphone, Bluetooth 2.0 and MicroSD expansion. It's also listed as a dual-sim device with quad-band GSM support. Of course, Microsoft has been slowly making in-roads into Nokia handsets for several months with Nokia's purchase of Intellisync and the recent announcement to integrate Windows Live services into some Nokia handsets. Still, WinMo on Nokia... are we dreaming, or is that "WinXP.jpg" an indicator of something more foolish?


N94i;
(http://www.morse.it/images/img_6178.jpeg)
(http://www.morse.it/images/img_6179.jpeg)



looks like a cheap chineese knock off lol



.....and some new phones;


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Sony Ericsson K630/V640
(http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Sony-Ericsson-Released-K618-UMTS-Mobile-1.jpg)
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sony-Ericsson-K630-phone-p_2398.html

The Sony Ericsson K630 is a tri-band GSM with single-band UMTS/HSDPA support, in a candybar design. It features 2-megapixel camera with dedicated key, M2 slot for memory and multimedia player and FM Radio.





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Giorgio Armani phone by Samsung
http://phonearena.com/htmls/Giorgio-Armani-phone-by-Samsung-article-a_2061.html

Rumors have been floating around, but yesterday Armani and Samsung officially announced the Giorgio Armani phone, which is based on the SGH-P520. Targeted as a rival to the Prada phone by LG, the Armani phone has 2.6” QVGA touch sensitive display with haptic UI that vibrates on touch. It is a slim (0.4” / 10mm) candybar with credit-card dimensions and specially designed graphical and audio user interface. In the box, leather carrying case will be included for protection.

Samsung Giorgio Armani Specifications

The Giorgio Armani-Samsung phone is a tri-band GSM with 3-megapixel camera, Stereo Bluetooth and microSD slot for memory. It has full HTML internet browser and multimedia player.

The new mobile phone will be available at Giorgio Armani’s flagship stores and selected mobile phone shops in major European countries from November 2007. It is the first product, result to the Armani and Samsung strategic alliance but a range of portable and home consumer electronics products will be launched in future.

(http://www.infosyncworld.com/giorgio_armani-samsung_luxury_phone_02.jpg)
(http://www.areamobile.de/images/handies/samsung/SGH_P520/200709250724armani_p520_217.jpg)
(http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/2007-09/samsung-armani_p520.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/-rkjvaR2a3s


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Samsung i400 Symbian S60 3.1
(http://news.ishodniki.ru/images/50158.jpg)
Review of GSM-smartphone Samsung i400
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-i400-en.shtml


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SAMSUNG SPH-M8100 Not GSM
(http://mobiltelefon.ru/i/other/march/30/samsung_sph_m8100_2.jpg)
http://board.siamphone.com/viewtopic.php?t=203741

The M8100 is the world's first Mobile WiMAX PDA phone. It allows users to conduct video conferences and stream television content via Terrestrial-Digital Multimedia Broadcasting (T-DMB), in addition to other high-speed data services. The slider phone possesses a 2.8”, 65k color touch screen display, a TV-out, an MMC card slot, and 2 cameras: a 2 megapixel camera, and a VGA camera for video calls. The M8100 also features Bluetooth ® with A2DP, a 128ROM/64MB RAM memory, and the Microsoft view and edit function.
Standard - CDMA2000 1X EV-DO (1900MHz) Mobile WiMAX (IEEE 802.16e)
Operating System - Windows Mobile 5.0 PPC PE
Camera - 2 Megapixel + VGA
Display - 65536 TFT (2.8”, 240x320)
Size - 114.5 x 58 x 18.2 mm
Weight - 147g
Features
- Mobile TV: Terrestrial DMB
- Multi-Format Music & Video Support
- Bluetooth® Stereo Music Profile (A2DP)
- Bluetooth® / USB
- Digital Power Amp
- MS Office View & Edit
- ROM 128MB / RAM 64MB
- External Memory : MMC micro


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OpenMoko's Neo 1973 the new rival for iPhone LINUX!!!
(http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2007/07/020-news-gnome/FIC-neo1973.png)
(http://img.generation-nt.com/photos/00F0000000076363.png)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1428/772243818_abda793711.jpg)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973

OpenMoko's Neo 1973 the new rival for iPhone
http://www.gadgets-reviews.com/index.php?page=post&id=303

There are more and more smart phones that are supposed to beat iPhone announced. And here is the new Neo 1973 Linux based smart phone that has been created earlier and is the rival of the iPhone. Well, it appeared last November so it is older then iPhone. However, it is not worse and has one very important advantage that we are going to talk about later.

 


Appearance

iPhone has a very similar interface to the Neo's one and does not differ much from it. If you look at the two phones placed on the table you would think that they are made by one designer. The color of edges and even the color are very similar. They have different shapes and sizes.

iPhone is just slightly smaller than Neo 1973 and it is also thinner. iPhone measures 115 mm x 61 mm x 11.6 mm while OpenMoko Neo 1973 120.7 mm x 62 mm x 18.5 mm. As you see there is only big difference in thickness. However, thicker phone does not mean better phone.

The corners of the Neo 1973 smart phone are rounded up and this makes it look smaller than it really is. And not so round corners of iPhone do not cancel its size out. However, iPhone is not that big and it does not need such effects.

Screen

OpenMoko has made its screen really good; with its size, only 2.8 " it has a very high resolution: 480 x 640 pixels it beats iPhone. It is a TFT touch-screen that has multi-touch function enabled. Coincidentally iPhone has the screen with the same technology and it differs in size and resolution. iPhone's screen is bigger but its resolution is much smaller: 320 x 480 pixels. Probably you will not see much difference there when using your gadget but if you look through pictures or watch videos you will see the difference.

Hardware

We do not know all the tiny specs about iPhone but we can present you the information about Neo 1973.
120.7 x 62 x 18.5 (mm)
2.8" VGA (480x640) TFT Screen
Samsung s3c2410 SoC @ 266 MHz
Global Locate AGPS chip
Ti GPRS (2.5G not EDGE)
Unpowered USB 1.1
Touchscreen
micro-sd slot
2.5mm audio jack
2 additional buttons
1200 mAh battery (charged over USB)
128 MB SDRAM
64 MB NAND Flash
Bluetooth (2.0)

You would say that it is definitely slower than iPhone and not as powerful as iPhone however it appeared earlier and it is easier to buy it nowadays. Having very many features is not all; it is very important how you realize them.



Software

There are two sides of coin in this case. Firs of all OpenMoko Neo 1973 is totally open source and that means that you will be able to install any application you want on your gadget smart phone. Besides, most of applications are going to be free. Thanks to OpenMoko strategy about sharing the revenue with software developers very many new free applications will appear. The only problem is that there are not many applications that would work with Linux nowadays but their number will grow. It would be a big advantage towards iPhone because iPhone is totally blocked and you will not be able to install any applications on it. I would actually prefer opened OS and not the closed one.

Some features

The creators of Neo 1973 had very many revolutionary ideas about smart-phones. Ideas like: location – based profiles that would use GPS to locate your position and change the profile when you enter the office for example.

The other cool idea is to set up something like a scheduled conference. A meeting between two phones would automatically start a conversation at certain date and time.

Actually OpenMoko sees future smart phones not as gadgets that would rapidly loose value and become useless several years later. But they want to make smart-phones like portable computers that you can modify and personalize and that would increase their value.

There is a big difference between these phones: one of them is power of iPhone and the other one is the openness of Neo 1973. A weaker Neo gadget but it has a big advantage of installing and using the software you like that I think covers all the disadvantages.

Having a classy iPhone or just an older Neo 1973 is a decision that you need to make if you want to buy something like this. However, there is one more thing we would like you to know. Paying $ 500 - $ 600 for iPhone that has a closed OS is not very smart when you can have a good opened OS phone for just about 0.





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Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 06, 2007, 05:55:43 PM
the V1615 is still delayed....software testing i think.....

i played with the nokia 7500 (prism) today though....gay ass cheapy feeeling phone, lol.....but its nokia so people will buy it....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 07, 2007, 03:26:54 AM
I got my hands on a HTC P4550/Kaiser/tytn2 AKA AT&T 8925/Tilt AKA Vodafone V1615 for a brief minute yesterday.
Shit looks big on photo's,but I was suprised that it was much smaller than expected.
So Matty and SGV have you guys tried the phone out yet?
(http://files.ladoshki.com/data/news/2007-03/htc_p4550_2.jpg)

the V1615 is still delayed....software testing i think.....
I played with the nokia 7500 (prism) today though
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/nokia/nokia-7500/nokia-7500-prism-combo.jpg)
....gay ass cheapy feeeling phone, lol.....but its nokia so people will buy it....

That Nokia is butt ugly,what a plastic piece of bullshit design.
I must say I was suprised by the size of the new HTC,and it really felt like a quality product.
The last three products HTC have released shows fresh direction for the company,I believe they will gain some marked shares in the upcoming months. They have sold mad units of their HTC Touch and is rumoured to have a order from SonyEricsson,should be interesting.

800000 HTC Touch sold over 3 months
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#16016
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HTC Touch shipments over 3 months from the launch have reached 800000 devices. This isn’t much for an Apple iPhone – however we should take into account that the device was sold on different markets from different operators. For a proper success estimate let’s wait for the launch of HTC Touch in the US and Apple iPhone in Europe.
At the same time HTC has recently announced the successor to HTC Touch – a 3G communicator slider HTC Touch Dual featuring TouchFLO interface based on finger input instead of stylus. Reportedly, finger-oriented TouchFLO interface will be applied in the new company’s products.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 14, 2007, 01:26:52 PM
alright! i now know all about modding the kaiser after some research online. doesn't matter where you get it you can mod it in any way you think of down to completely flashing the entire firmware. people have ripped the various apps and back engineered it so whether it comes with say windows live messenger or not you can just install it yourself providing you have the files ;] awesome...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 14, 2007, 01:34:58 PM
alright! i now know all about modding the kaiser after some research online. doesn't matter where you get it you can mod it in any way you think of down to completely flashing the entire firmware. people have ripped the various apps and back engineered it so whether it comes with say windows live messenger or not you can just install it yourself providing you have the files ;] awesome...

Dope,I was VERY close to buying one after I took a quick look at it. Damn,that phone looks awsome.
I have spilled a couple of drinks over my N95,because I use it for a MP3 player at party´s,ha,ha.
So it might see it´s last days pretty soon. So do you have it?
I saw that the SE K850i has it the stores too,there´s mixed reviews online,have you tried it? How´s the D-Pad?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 14, 2007, 01:58:56 PM
not yet im off work till friday, will get to play with the 850 then. a lot of people are anticipating it, im not so sure about the dpad and touch sensitive menu keys though...will no doubt be a great cam and video recording is decent too.

not got or played with the kaiser yet, still waiting on vodafone to release their version so i can figure out how to get one as cheap as possible...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=376 this is where you'll find all the info on modding the kaiser and links to ripped cab files so you can install extra stuff or stuff that just wasn't on a certain variant of the firmware like msn etc ;]
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on October 14, 2007, 02:08:45 PM
anybody got a reliable website that sells sim free phones cheap enough?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 14, 2007, 02:14:47 PM
ebay is actually the best place for that as far as i know, especially on the prices. just look for big sellers with big feedback scores and you'll be cool...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 14, 2007, 02:26:18 PM
not yet im off work till friday, will get to play with the 850 then. a lot of people are anticipating it, im not so sure about the dpad and touch sensitive menu keys though...will no doubt be a great cam and video recording is decent too.

not got or played with the kaiser yet, still waiting on vodafone to release their version so i can figure out how to get one as cheap as possible...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=376
this is where you'll find all the info on modding the kaiser and links to ripped cab files so you can install extra stuff or stuff that just wasn't on a certain variant of the firmware like msn etc ;]

Thanx for the link,will check it out.
I saw some user reviews on SE K850i on http://www.esato.com/board/latestposts.php ,most of them of them was bought from "you" (vodafone or 02),not sure if it has hit every marked yet (?). The board is a little biased,since it got a lot of SE fans in there,but I read trough the lines like every smart man would do. The D-pad and the touch sensitive menu keys worry me,but let´s see. I will hit a Nokia sevice center tomorrow to clean my phone before it get fucked up by the drinks I´ve spilled over it.
If it crash,you better believe the HTC Kaiser will be next phone.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 15, 2007, 03:40:38 AM
my phone is fixed now! thank god!!! but i didnt buy my 4gig card yet.Is there any link that you can give me that i could watch mpeg on my phone not just the 3gp format? that would be very helpfull! thanks in advance!!! 8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 18, 2007, 11:57:09 AM
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There´s a new version of Gmail for cell phone´s out.
You should know what to do;
www.gmail.com/app

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Looking for applicatons for your Windows Mobile?
You will some dope applications here;
http://iwindowsmobile.com/
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/logo_01.jpg)
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/icon_audio_big.jpg)
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/icon_fun_big.jpg)
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/icon_shell_big.jpg)
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/icon_key_big.jpg)
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/icon_astro_big.jpg)
(http://iwindowsmobile.com/images/icon_sms_big.jpg)





my phone is fixed now! thank god!!! but i didnt buy my 4gig card yet.
Is there any link that you can give me that i could watch mpeg on my phone not just the 3gp format? that would be very helpfull! thanks in advance!!! 8)

Not sure,I´ve never tried myself. Have to do some research,I know you can convert mpeg to 3gp.
I guess the best place to look for info is
www.my-symbian.com
Symbian software & latest news for UIQ, Series 60, Series 80 and Series 90 platforms

If you find some links/info before me,post them.
I going trough some cell phone news I´m going to post a little later right now.



EDIT;
I found this,tell me if it works;
http://shop.my-symbian.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=695&osId=914&sectionId=0&catalog=0&productType=2&platformId=4&productId=111573


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Broad Manufacturer Agreement Gives Universal Phone Cable Green Light
http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1769
(http://www.esato.com/gfx/news/img/Mini_Micro_2_1190454399.jpg)

The OMTP today announced that following industry consultation a recommendation paper has been agreed to help pave the way for a single, universal cross manufacturer USB (Universal Serial Bus) cable connector that enables mobile consumers to connect and charge their mobile devices

Ratified and promoted by OMTP operator members (including Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Motorola, LG, and Nokia) with support from the USB Implementers Forum, this latest recommendation represents a significant step towards standardising common cable connectors resulting in obvious consumer and environmental benefits.
With UK consumers changing their handset on average twice a year, through contract upgrades or personal choice, there are literally hundreds of millions of chargers and data cables in circulation. On top of that, there a huge number of different peripherals such as headsets for voice calls, car kits, data cables, etc. – many with different physical connectors. This fragmentation creates unnecessary cost for the whole value chain, creates clutter and limits the freedom of selection for end user, and restricts competition by creating barriers of market entry.
The OMTP’s paper recommends that the micro USB (Universal Serial Bus) standard is used across mobile devices. USB is the de facto standard for the PC industry and it is a technology understood by consumers. Reaching mobile industry agreement on USB will help streamline the whole value chain and provide end users with a larger choice of the most popular peripherals. The customer will also be able to use their legacy home entertainment and PC equipment, as well as creating a new market opportunity for peripheral vendors.
One manufacturer that played a pivotal role in pursuing the agreement was OMTP member Nokia. Markku Verkama, Director of Portfolio Planning at Nokia Technology Platforms explains: “The OMTP’s work to bring consensus for what is such a simple yet significant recommendation will have wide reaching benefit. With the reduction of cables needed for mobile data connectivity, we can further enhance user experiences in our devices while reducing the burden to the environment.”
“The USB-IF was first to recognise a clear market need for a universal data and charging mechanism for devices. USB offers consumers ease-of-use and a plug-and-play experience making it the most ubiquitous interconnect technology in the world,” said Jeff Ravencraft, USB-IF president. “We’re pleased to see OMTP support the USB technology as the standard for connectivity in the mobile space.”
Tim Raby, Managing Director OMTP commented, “OMTP members are keen to pursue the single cable connectivity development due to its multiple benefits. We see these recommendations as a clear and demonstrable example of the work we are doing to make the mobile experience less confusing, less complicated and easier for consumers.”

This is good news,it was about time.


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CooTek's TouchPal brings iPhone-like touchpad to Windows Mobile
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/10/12/cooteks-touchpal-brings-iphone-like-touchpad-to-windows-mobile/

If you've been harboring itchy, jealous feelings toward your iPhone-toting friend's slick onscreen keypads, now's your chance to join the fun. CooTek's Touchpal brings an arguably improved keypad design to Windows Mobile 5 and 6 devices for free -- at least, free until December 8th. Powered by "T+" technology -- a patent pending typing method -- the keypad features two letters and a symbol on each key in a "T" shape so by quickly sliding your thumb left, right, or down, you'll eventually become a 300 char per minute texting grand master. In our humble opinion, anything is likely an improvement on the child-size onscreen keyboard featured on most current devices, so if you have some spare moments, give it a shot and let us know how you get on. Read on for a video of the keypad in action.

http://www.youtube.com/v/4PwSC8rlvEo&autoplay=0



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Will Apple Soon be Forced to Unbrick All iPhones?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=post;msg=1623246;topic=152903.200;sesc=f3f0990d7d67a49a69f916f84a7d52b5

As the current iPhone 1.1.1 locking proves, there is a VERY dangerous flaw in the current iPhone and iPod touch software. A malformed TIF file can be used to get root access to the device. Obviously that is good if you want to install some useful applications on your iPhone/iPod, however that is extremely bad if you are worried about someone taking over your iPhone. Ironically, this might be a good thing for those who accidentally let Apple Brick their iPhones - try to stay with us here...

Theoretically, the malformed TIF file could be used for more nefarious tasks than updating than installing useful apps or updating the modems firmware...stuff like making a 900-number dialer($$ cha - ching $$), a bot installer (iPhone Spam-bot?), a baseband modem crippler or just good old-fashioned bricking the iPhone....

Hypothetically, one of these malformed tif files could even have the same effect as the "bricker" 1.1.1 update. However, this time Apple's Safari security will be to blame, not the users who are trying to assert their legal right to move the phone to other carriers. The only recourse Apple will legally have is to unBrick all of the iPhones that their update has caused and reset the baseband modem to factor settings.

One has to wonder if the malformed tif file vulnerability would have been discovered and applied to the iPhone had Apple not closed the Intaller.app development community out of the iPhone originally. Perhaps it is better to have these incredibly intelligent people on your side?


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Jobs praises Nokia's 3rd party app scheme, but he has it wrong
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/10/17/jobs-praises-nokias-3rd-party-app-scheme-but-he-has-it-wrong/

In chatting up Apple's sudden change of direction today on the whole native iPhone SDK issue, Steve Jobs did a little name dropping by mentioning that he digs the way Nokia does things with S60's support for third party applications. It seems apparent from the get-go that Steve has every intention of offering apps through some sort of official, money-generating conduit -- iTunes, we'd wager -- and with that comes the promise of digital rights management, authenticity verification, and all those nasty little technologies that set the hacking community ablaze. To that end, Steve mentioned that he digs Nokia's approach of requiring that apps be digitally signed so they can be traced back to their developers, an effort to stem "viruses, malware, privacy attacks" that he thinks will flourish on a "highly visible target" like the iPhone. There's a problem, though: there's no telling when the last time is that Steve touched a phone not of his own creation, but we've used S60 devices pretty recently (like, today) and we have it on good authority that you can disable certificate verification for installed apps. Think iPhone users are going to have that option? Probably not. Apple's still visibly concerned about keeping the iPhone under its perceived draconian control (even though it's been busted wide open time and time again), and we've no doubt that trend will continue in full effect with the SDK. It's a huge, landmark upgrade from the web-based SDK developers have now, yes -- but we'd recommend Steve screw around with an N95 for a while before he heaps any more love on the way Nokia goes about its business.


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5 megapixel Samsung G800
http://www.gsmarena.com/5_megapixel_samsung_g800_leaked-news-287.php
(http://xataka.com/images/2007/10/samsungg800-0.jpg)
(http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-content/userimages/2007/07/g8002.jpg)
(http://www.techgadgets.in/images/samsung-g800.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/MIqOi_hx5qQ&rel&autoplay=0
Another high-end camera phone from Samsung seems to be under way, unofficial information has leaked. The Samsung G800 slider has a 5 megapixel auto focus camera with 3x optical zoom and is likely the successor of Samsung G600, which was recently announced.
Samsung G800 is recognizable for its stylish design and better camera integration with a dedicated camera button and xenon flash. The back of the phone includes elements, inherent to advanced camera bodies - a special leather-like cover ensuring better grip, as well as its lens and xenon flash comfortably covered by a stylish lens lid. The front panel grabs attention with its large display. The form factor is easily identifiable as a slider, but it might as well offer a touch-based user interface and no hardware keypad.
Other features of the Samsung G800 include Bluetooth, USB support, 3G or HSDPA connectivity and stereo speakers. We are somewhat uncertain about the presence of 3G support, since most of the Samsung 3G-enabled handset come out under the Z-series. As of yet, no information is available on the video recording capabilities of the device.
Although optical zoom enabled phones are not something new on the market as we have already witnessed the coming to light of Nokia N93, Nokia N93i, Sharp 902, Sharp 903 and Sharp 904, the Samsung G800 looks like quickly becoming a common favourite when it hits the shelves. This is expected to happen in the early months of 2008.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 21, 2007, 11:11:02 AM
kaiser - we got it, but its sold out instantly and i wasn't in while we had stock so still haven't played on it

k850 - awesome features, looks hella cool - quite chunky - not a fan of the touch buttons and the navigation not having a selection button in the middle. great screen (the k850 and w910 have a new larger screen from SE) and it has the full walkman player 3 from the new walkman range for music. reading that forum sounds like there are a lot of firmware issues. been selling very well this weekend and i have no hesitation selling SE products. i dont see why they had to change the design so much, bad move in my opinion...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 21, 2007, 02:48:30 PM
by design i just meant the things i said (keypad layout, touch buttons). the auto-lens cover is real impressive though, lights up a blue led around the lens when it opens. software wise its nice but the new operating system they are using is more sluggish. not very much but enough to piss someone like me off, SE should be keeping their interface fairly instant. its like samsung who had an amazingly fast ui and now their g600 software is just hella slow, oh well. we have a whole grip of new SE phones, they are bombaring the market at the moment. k850i, w910, w580i, k530i, v640i, k770i, w880 gold - all new in the last few weeks ;d
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 22, 2007, 10:05:05 AM
I had quick look at a SE K850 dummy the other day,I must say that I wasn't impressed. It felt like a piece of plastic crap,a matt front and a tacky glossy back. Damn,can't believe their top model for 07 would turn out like this. I would take the SE T650 over this any day,which is a beauty and really feels like a QUALITY product.
So Matty what's your verdict on the Kaiser and K850?


kaiser - we got it, but its sold out instantly and i wasn't in while we had stock so still haven't played on it

k850 - awesome features, looks hella cool - quite chunky - not a fan of the touch buttons and the navigation not having a selection button in the middle. great screen (the k850 and w910 have a new larger screen from SE) and it has the full walkman player 3 from the new walkman range for music. reading that forum sounds like there are a lot of firmware issues. been selling very well this weekend and i have no hesitation selling SE products. i dont see why they had to change the design so much, bad move in my opinion...



They changed the design to make it easier for JAVA application developers to develop cheap applications,since the new navigation design use the same as design as Nokias S40 (that's what I read at least). As a former loyal SE user I'm dissapointed by SE K850. I can't front on it's features,they're awesome,only thing missing is build in GPS. So it sold well? I would have tougth the new navigation design might would put most people off. I guess not.



by design i just meant the things i said (keypad layout, touch buttons). the auto-lens cover is real impressive though, lights up a blue led around the lens when it opens. software wise its nice but the new operating system they are using is more sluggish. not very much but enough to piss someone like me off, SE should be keeping their interface fairly instant. its like samsung who had an amazingly fast ui and now their g600 software is just hella slow, oh well. we have a whole grip of new SE phones, they are bombaring the market at the moment. k850i, w910, w580i, k530i, v640i, k770i, w880 gold - all new in the last few weeks ;d


Did I say something in my post that could be read as that I didn't get what you meant?  ;)
Anyway the keypad design is the worst,not because it's "ugly" but it don't seem functional.
It looked fine on photo's but when I had a quick look at the dummy,it felt a little cheap and tacky.
Didn't like the glossy finish on the back combined with a matt front.
I guess taste of design is subjective,but I hope this is not the direction they´re planning to move towards

The SE W910 looks nice,I don´t like slider phone´s (bought the N95 strictly because of superior features)
My guess is that is pretty expensive right?,look like a "design" phone.
SE W910
(http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/13/sony_ericsson_w910_zoom.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/WhoDLTtOpsI&autoplay=0


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 22, 2007, 03:00:31 PM
its pretty expensive and i was actually liking the w580i more - half the price but with version 2 of the walkman software (seems cleaner than version 3) and the keys are a tad small like the 910i. also got some 1615's in today, so i got to play at last. extremely good build quality and all the things i expected. only drawback touch screen isn't amazing - the qtek 9100/htc wizard still has a better touch screen than the new models. also the vodafone version does indeed take all the fun stuff like windows live off the device, but i know how to sort that out and more now ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 22, 2007, 03:49:22 PM
its pretty expensive and i was actually liking the w580i more -
half the price but with version 2 of the walkman software (seems cleaner than version 3) and the keys are a tad small like the 910i. also got some 1615's in today, so i got to play at last.
extremely good build quality and all the things i expected.
only drawback touch screen isn't amazing -
the qtek 9100/htc wizard still has a better touch screen than the new models.
also the vodafone version does indeed take all the fun stuff like windows live off the device,
but i know how to sort that out and more now ;D

What´s the difference between Walkman Version 2 and 3?
I have never had any of the Walkman phones,
I had SE K800 for a week when it came but didn´t really like that it was so chunky to not be a "smart phone".
They slimmed down SE K810,but still....I like T650,that´s a slim and nice phone with the same features.
But then again you probably has to pay twice for the design,right?
Fuck,back to the point,did SE K800 have Walkman Version 2?
What´s wrong with Vodafone? Why do they brand their phones and take away features?
I had a quick look at it a couple weeks ago,it wasn´t turned on so I didn´t see the screen.
But as you said it is a extremely good build quality product,I actually think that and the Touch model will be their breaktrough models.
Posted a link to Windows Mobile application site in a previous post.
I don´t know if I told you,but I have upgraded my software on N95 and got a 4GB memory card in it now.
It works much better now and the GPS is working a whole lot faster.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 22, 2007, 04:04:56 PM
the latest version of the n95 firmware (i think the nokia rep said version 12 or something) adds assisted gps to the software (previously was just the 6110 that had that feature) so it'll use the mobile signal + satellites to locate you and be a whole lot faster as you said. the k800 just has basic media player software - quality wise it makes no difference (although the k800 doesn't drive headphones as well as say the w850i) but the proper walkman software (version 2 was in the models from w850i onward) lets you organise the music/playlists in more ways and generally looks a whole lot nicer, displaying album art and also has the mega-bass option (although to be fair any kind of eq through the phone output sounds absolutely crap given the strength of the signal).

the only way to get good sound is not to use any eq options and plug headphones with the right kind of audio reproduction into the adapter (so if you want more bass you need some headphones which extend the low-end more than usual). having said that you can't drive any larger headphones decently from the phone output anyway, so its always a comprimise. damn im a geek ;p
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 22, 2007, 04:17:36 PM
the latest version of the n95 firmware (i think the nokia rep said version 12 or something)
adds assisted gps to the software (previously was just the 6110 that had that feature)
so it'll use the mobile signal + satellites to locate you and be a whole lot faster as you said.
the k800 just has basic media player software - quality wise it makes no difference
(although the k800 doesn't drive headphones as well as say the w850i)
but the proper walkman software (version 2 was in the models from w850i onward)
lets you organise the music/playlists in more ways and generally looks a whole lot nicer,
displaying album art and also has the mega-bass option
(although to be fair any kind of eq through the phone output sounds absolutely crap given the strength of the signal).

the only way to get good sound is not to use any eq options and plug headphones with the right kind of audio reproduction into the adapter (so if you want more bass you need some headphones which extend the low-end more than usual). having said that you can't drive any larger headphones decently from the phone output anyway, so its always a comprimise.
damn im a geek ;p

Thanx for the info,the N95 GPS actually works now. Before it was just a fun feature to play with.......
Alright then I haven´t played with the media software that comes with the Walkman phones.
I kind of stayed away from them because I prefer joystick over D-Pad,
now that "everybody" is moving away from the joystick anyway I got to live with the D-Pad from now on.
To tell you the truth,I don´t expect "super quality sound" from a cell phone or MP3 player for that matter.
I just find it very handy to have "everything" in one gadget,now I use my phone as "stereo" and "walkman" all the time.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 23, 2007, 06:52:00 PM
how many 5 megapixel phone is available? only 2 comes to mind - n95 and that samsung you just mention
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on October 23, 2007, 07:10:12 PM
G600 too and thats the smallest ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 23, 2007, 07:11:40 PM
i feel cheap with my 3,2 megapixels nokia n73 lol and props for the info like always!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 23, 2007, 07:29:58 PM
not yet,i wanna buy my 4gig card first cause i need more memory! im planning to buy my 4gig card this week! i'll keep you informed if the programs works  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 23, 2007, 07:52:24 PM
how many 5 megapixel phone is available?
only 2 comes to mind - n95 and that samsung you just mention

There´s a couple more;
SE K850
(http://www.mobilegyan.com/images/sonyericsson-k850.jpg)
LG K990
(http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/upload/news/070821_p10_lg.jpg)

....and the upcoming N82 that will be announced officially 2 November and hopefully in stores by christmas.
(http://pics.livejournal.com/kraj/pic/0001f28p)



G600 too and thats the smallest ;D

Thanx for the correction,I was sure SE K850 was the smallest one.
Oh well,,, I FIXED the error in the OG post.

I feel cheap with my 3,2 mpx N73 lol and props for the info like always!

Nah don't do,you don't really need any more than 3.2 mpx if you ask me,in a year or two 5 mpx will be a common feature. What I want is bigger memory cards and better battery,other than that I'm pretty straight right now.
Did you try those applications for mpeg?



not yet,i wanna buy my 4gig card first cause i need more memory! im planning to buy my 4gig card this week! i'll keep you informed if the programs works  8)

Alright do that,I need to check all them new applications I posted myself. Got some new shit I will post soon,but as I said need to catch up myself....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 27, 2007, 10:51:33 AM
news update;

More pictures of the N82 has leaked,it´s getting closer to the official annoucement,which takes place 2 November if the rumors is right.
The specs is the same as N95,and finally we will get those in a bar phone,not the annoying slide design.

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http://kraj.livejournal.com/133179.html#cutid1
(http://pics.livejournal.com/kraj/pic/0001dh4w)
(http://pics.livejournal.com/kraj/pic/0001c5g2)
(http://pics.livejournal.com/kraj/pic/0001e4s9)
(http://pics.livejournal.com/kraj/pic/0001f28p)

Here´s what you´re going to buy for your grand parents this christmas;
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Emporia Life
http://www.mobilegazette.com/emporia-life-07x07x22.htm

Made by Emporia of Austria, the Emporia Life is a GSM handset designed for older consumers who may struggle with other phones.

Designed to be very easy to use, the Emporia Life comes with some interesting features such as a hearing aid compatible loudspeaker, an emergency call system which can be activated with a single keypress, a very large 2.7" display and a simple-to-use interface with detailed help.
This is a big phone, relatively speaking. Measuring 112 x 51 x 26mm and coming in at a hefty 152 grams, the Emporia Life is almost the same weight and size (when shut) as the Sony Ericsson P990i. If you compare it with the Nokia 6111 for size (see left) you can see just how big it is. But this large size gives the Emporia Life a very large screen and a great big set of buttons
It's not the first time that mobile phone has been designed that aims at this market segment - notably the Sagem VS1 and VS2 had a very similar approach when they were launched two years ago, but they managed to inject a little style into the design whereas the Emporia Life does look a bit like a brick.

Looks aren't the only thing that counts against the Emporia Life - the large 2.7" 128 x 160 pixel display looks like something from a piece of industrial machinery rather than a mobile phone. And the extra large keys may look useful, but they do appear to be very flat without any raised area or separation which could make them tricky for some people to use.

One final problem is the battery life - while the Emporia Life doesn't exactly have a short battery life, the 1000 mAH cell only powers the phone for up to 6 days standby time. On a device of this size and weight, the standby time should be much longer. The Philips Xenium 9@9m managed a staggering 30 days standby time and a similarly sized screen (although in colour).. so why can't the Emporia Life do it? One plus point is that the Emporia Life can be powered by 3 AAA batteries if needed
Shortcomings aside, there are plenty of practical features in the Emporia Life. It has a very loud speaker, very strong vibrating function, a built-in flashlight, visual alerts, emergency SMS feature, calculator, birthday reminder and an alarm clock. It does send and receive text messages, including SMS multicast capabilities. It's clear that some thought has gone into the feature set, and the Emporia Life seems to deliver the sort of things that most people will want without weighing it down with functions that won't be used.
(http://handcellphone.com/wp-content/themes/green-marinee/phonepic/tn_Emporia-Life-Cell-Phone-2.jpg)
(http://www.smidigt.se/u/emporia-life2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2006/image/aged-people-phones/emporia-life-pano.jpg)
(http://www.mediaemporia.biz/images/mobil/emporia_life.jpg)
(http://www.flusoft.de/bilder/emlife1.jpg)

"The grandma phone" Above ^^^ about is getting competion with
Doro 326GSM
(http://bilder.amobil.no/378/378429/dorogsm-topp.jpg)

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Official announcement of MOTO U9 music phone
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/motorola-rokr-u9.jpg)

Motorola has announced MOTO U9 music phone. Speculated details had already popped up in the news. On the whole the official announcement confirmed this info. MOTO U9 is a stylish clamshell in a sleek form. It has an external display with touch-sensitive media player buttons in it. The phone is designed for GSM networks. MOTO U9 will hit the stores in 4Q in Asia, Latin America and Europe.
The specs of MOTO U9:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (Class 12)
External display – 1.45” OLED (128x160 pixels, 65K colors)
Internal display – 2” TFT (QVGA, 262K colors)
Built-in music player WMA (Janus DRM), MP3, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+
Video formats - MPEG4 3GPP, h.263
Interface - Bluetooth (A2DP), USB 2.0
25 MB of internal memory
microSD-slot
2-megapixel camera
Talk time – up to 430 minutes
Standby time – up to 350 hours
Dimensions – 90x48.6x16.4 mm
Weight – 87.5 g

Then some news from them crazy ass Japanese dudes;

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Sanyo W54SA: a TV-slider with VGA
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/AU_W54SA_1.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/AU_W54SA_2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/AU_W54SA_3.jpg)

Today the Japanese operator KDDI has unveiled a new Sanyo phone featuring a big 3” widescreen VGA display made under IPS technology (In-Plate Switching). IPS displays stand out for wide viewing angles, high contrast and short matrix feedback.
The W54SA supports digital TV-programs.
The short technical specs of Sanyo W54SA:
EV-DO Rev.A
Dimensions: 50x106x18.9 mm
Weight: 144 g
Main display: widescreen 3”, IPS, 480x800 pixels
Camera: 3.18-megapixel with auto focus
Connectivity: Bluetooth, IrDA (IrSimple)
microSD cards
3D games


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Sony Ericsson W54S – a multimedia phone from Japan
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/AU_W54S_1.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/AU_W54S_2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/AU_W54S_3.jpg)

Sony Ericsson introduced today a new mobile phone for fall-winter season for KDDI operator.
The device got the name W54S. It comes with a widescreen 2.8 OLED display, a 3.24-megapixel camera, Bluetooth, digital terrestrial TV-programs support and new operator’s music services developed together with Sony.
The short technical specs of Sony Ericsson W54S:
EV-DO Rev.A
Dimensions: 50x106x19.1 mm
Weight: 145 g
Main display: widescreen 2.8”, OLED, 240x400 pixels
Main display: LED, 7x7 matrix
Camera: 3.24-megapixel with auto focus
Connectivity: Bluetooth (stereo support), IrDA (IrSimple)
Memory: 800 MB expandable with microSD cards
3D games



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Samsung BRIX modular multimedia phone concept
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/October/15_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Samsung%20BRIX.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Samsung%20BRIX1.jpg)

Samsung Art and Design held the mobile device prototype exhibition resuming its design courses. Samsung BRIX turned to be one of most impressive solutions. This is a modular full touchscreen multimedia mobile phone.
The idea of the concept is that it consists of brick modules. Thus you can always add an additional brick to enhance the functionality. For example, you can add more bricks, when you need a bigger screen or a camera. Samsung Bricks is currently just a concept, however the company has been exploring similar ideas and has a patent to prove it.

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Official announcement of a two-way music smartphone Samsung SGH-i450 Symbian S60
http://www.youtube.com/v/SsrSYg328Qs&autoplay=0
(http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/5318-ADA1d36e8samsungi4506.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/sgh-i450_music_l.jpg)

Today Samsung Electronics has made an official announcement of Samsung SGH-i450 music phone (in addition to the SGH-F330) for the European market. The device is peculiar for its form-factor – a two-way slider phone like Nokia N95. Instead of media player buttons the new Samsung phone has a sensor wheel, which fulfils the same functions.
I’d remind you Samsung SGH-i450 is built on Symbian S60 3rd Edition and supports 3G networks and HSDPA technology (up to 3.6 Mbps to download music from the web), let alone EDGE and GPRS. Bluetooth technology with A2DP enhances opportunities for music playback.
The price tag for Samsung SGH-i450 makes up €360, and the launch is scheduled for the end of this month.
On our site you can learn more details about Samsung SGH-i450.

General features
Announced in 2007, September
GSM 900/1800/1900, W-CDMA 2100
OS: Symbian v9.2 S60 v3.1 n
2.4" QVGA display, TFT, has the resolution of 240 x 320 pixels and shows up to 262,144 colours
Battery type Li-ion 1200 mAh
Battery life:
talk mode - up to 7.9 hours
standby mode - up to 333 hours
playing MP3 - up to 12 hours
Dimensions: 101 x 52 x 17,8 mm
Weight: 114
Colours: dark blue
Memory
40 MB internal memory
Expansion connector for MicroSD (up to 4 GB)
Call management, ringing tones
Vibracall
Polyphonic call melodies, 64 tones polyphony
MP3 melodies as a call melody
Speakerphone
Videotelephony
SMS
SMS, MMS (up to 300 KB), Email (POP3, IMAP4, SMTP, SSL, TLS)
Predictive text input Т9
Camera
Integrated 2 MP camera with 4x digital zoom
Multishooting, White balance, Flash
Frontal VGA-camera for videotelephony
Multimedia
Java MIDP 2.0
Games
FM stereo radio
Supported audio formats: MP3, AAC, AAC+, RA, WMA
Supported video formats: 3GP, H.263, MPEG4, RealOne, WMV
Connectivity
HSDPA
EDGE
GPRS
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.0(A2DP)
Stereo Bluetooth for formats: MP3/AAC+/AAC
WAP 2.0
Audioconnector 3.5 mm
Synchronization with PC
Organizer and extras
Voice notes
Calculator
Calendar
Stopwatch
Alarm clock
Unit converter

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Apple iPhone in Gold now
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/October/09_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/iPhonegold.jpg)

Goldstriker has introduced the luxury iPhone. From the very beginning the iPhone was positioned as something extraordinary and attracted long queues. Now it’s not enough to obtain an iPhone to confirm high status of its owner. The company offers an 8GB iPhone for those who are gold-mad. It is coated with 24-carat gold. The sales of the golden iPhone should start in mid October. The price for this precious handset hasn’t been unveiled yet.

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More pics and specs on MOTOROKR E8 and MOTORIZR Z10
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/September/18_eng.shtml

The GSMArena.com has reported it acquired detailed into and pictures of new Motorola handsets, which should be announced by the company soon. It deals with the much rumored MOTOROKR E8 and MOTORIZR Z10. We don’t see the reason why not to believe it and thus share the info with our readers. Well, let’s start with
Motorola ROKR E8:
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Moto_E8_1.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Moto_E8_2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Moto_E8_2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Moto_E8_3.jpg)

This is another Motorola’s music phone coming with a novel navigation element called “Omega Wheel”, probably because of its form resembling the letter from the Greek alphabet. Its keyboard is peculiar for tactile feedback whenever a key is pressed.

The E8 comes with 2GB of memory onboard expanded with microSD cards (up to 4GB), an FM-radio, Bluetooth, USB v2.0 and a 3.5-mm audio jack. Measuring just 115x53x10.6 mm it houses a 2-megapixel camera and a 2” 240x320 TFT display.

MOTOROKR E8 supports quad-band GSM and EDGE. The sales are set for November at the price of €280.

MOTORIZR Z10:
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Moto_Z10_3.jpg)


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HP iPAQ 610 Business Navigator: up-to-date functions in one
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/September/06_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/iPAQ600.jpg)

The new series of Hewlett-Packard new products includes HP iPAQ 610 Business Navigator in two modifications: with a 3-megapixel camera and without one. The 600-series device is packed in a classical candy bar form-factor with a numeric keypad. HP iPAQ 610 Business Navigator stands out for control elements designed for single-handed operations. There is a sensor ring across the keypad and a scrolling wheel with 3 degrees of freedom. Functionally this is a complete analog of the iPAQ 910 and supports GPS navigation.
The main technical specs of HP iPAQ 610 Business Navigator:
Networks: UMTS/HSDPA 850/1900/2100 MHz, GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CPU: Marvell PXA270, 520 MHz
Memory: 128 MB SDRAM, 256 MB ROM, microSD cards
Display: 2.8”, transmissive TFT, 240x320 pixel, 65K colors
Camera: 3-megapixel, CMOS with video capture
Operating system: Windows Mobile 6 Professional
Connectivity: WLAN IEEE 802.11 b/g, Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR1, USB (miniUSB jack) with charging
A-GPS (Assisted GPS) navigation
Audio formats: WMA, WAV, MP3, MIDI, AAC-LC, HE-AAC
Audio features: voice recorder, built-in speaker, connector for external mic/headphones
Battery: 1590 mAh
Dimensions: 117x60.3x17.5 mm
Weight: 145 g


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Waiting for new Japanese edition SE phones
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/September/05_eng.shtml
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The announcement date getting closer gives rise to lots of rumors. This fall NTT DoCoMo, largest 3G service provider in Japan, is expected to introduce a new lineup of its top 900-series phones. Some Internet source posted a picture of a new phone, allegedly a Sony Ericsson model named SO905i:
The peculiar thing about the SO905i is its form-factor resembling of a two-way slider. Traditionally for such case there are no official comments to the picture – before the official announcement lots of things (including pictures) can get changed dramatically.

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Samsung SGH-i550 showcased at IFA 2007
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/September/03_eng.shtml
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At IFA 2007 show in Berlin Samsung introduced a smartphone called Samsung SGH-i550, which will be officially announced later on. The device is powered by Symbian S60 and supports 3G networks with up to 3.6 Mbps data transfer speed. It is peculiar for an integrated GPS-receiver and full integration with Google services: the search panel displayed in the main screen.
In addition there is a trackball and dedicated buttons to access Internet, music and navigation applications. However the buttons are quite small and might be inconvenient in use. The smartphone features a 2.6” display, a 3.2-megapixel camera with flash, 115x53x13.8 mm.

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Cellphone projector by TI
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
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At Pepcom event in New York Texas Instruments has introduced a proto of a cellphone projector. The device uses lasers as the light source, and an LED-based model is currently in the lab. Definitely such a module will be an extremely useful feature to any phone or a smartphone, as it eventually solves the small display problem.
n particular, the built-in projector can run presentations directly from the cellphone omitting PC. However image quality loses to professional projectors, anyway this in-handset projector will do for small presentations. There is another application of this solution, you can run video, pictures, web-pages etc. on a “big screen”.

(http://images.vnu.net/fr/silicon/news/2007/03/27/technologie-de-projection-dlp-s/dlp-cellphone-projector-front-closeup.jpg)
(http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/04/phone_projector.jpg)
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PopSci.com Hands On - Texas Instruments Pico Projector
http://www.youtube.com/v/l3CQG_pygBg
Cell Phone Projector Coming Soon
http://www.youtube.com/v/jIonaI8oAbg
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 29, 2007, 01:03:38 PM
props again for the phone update!!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 29, 2007, 01:38:14 PM
props again for the phone update!!!

So what do you think of the new images of N82?
It´s getting close to the official presentation (2 November).
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 29, 2007, 02:23:22 PM
looks cool! im wating to see what features are gonna be on it maybe im gonna buy one
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 29, 2007, 08:53:16 PM
looks cool!
im wating to see what features are gonna be on it maybe im gonna buy one
The same as N95.

same price? :D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 30, 2007, 08:13:21 AM
looks cool!
im wating to see what features are gonna be on it maybe im gonna buy one
The same as N95.

same price? :D


Time will tell,if the rumors is right they will present it officially on friday.
The only difference is the memory,it has a little less memory. "Only" 100 MB VS 160 MB (again,if the rumors is right).
That´s not a big problem,they´re shipping the 8 GB to the stores as we speak.
Actually they say it´s already in the stores,is this right Matty?

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SanDisk starts shipping 8GB microSDHC and M2 cards
http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/29/sandisk-starts-shipping-8gb-microsdhc-and-m2-cards/
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SanDisk was trumpeting its 8GB microSDHC cards all the way back in June, but it's taken until now for the company to ship the little buggers -- but we're also getting an 8GB Memory Stick Micro (also known as M2) version as a reward for our patience. The 8GB SDHC card will set you back $139, while the M2 stick is $149,
and both should be in stores worldwide now, according to SanDisk.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 30, 2007, 08:46:14 AM
MORE NEWS


SonyEricsson will present some new phones officially next week,maybe these will be among them?
Non of the phones is "revolutionary",so I hope they got something up their sleeve that hasn´t leaked yet.

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Rumors: new Sony Ericsson products in 2008
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/October/09_eng.shtml
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Some pics and info on new SE phones in 2008 have leaked to the Internet from an insider source. According to the Mobile Close Up these are W970, K830 and K860.
Sony Ericsson W970 belongs to the Walkman music series. It is equipped with an iPod-like navigation wheel, a 5-megapixel camera and a storage card slot. It’s not said to have 8GB of memory onboard. Sony Ericsson K830 from the Cyber-shot series comes with a 3.2-megapixel camera, which is likely to shoot QVGA video. The device might replace the K810. As for the last handset, there are no details except for the picture.
SE W970?
(http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/mobilerumours/images/upload/1178610846SE-W970--2.JPG)

Live pics of Sony Ericsson W890
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

The SE-center.pl has posted more live pics of Sony Ericsson W890 phone, which is not yet officially introduced. This is a Walkman series product following the W880. According to the source, the W890 comes with a 2” QVGA display, a 3.2-megapixel camera and a frontal camera for video calls (3G support), Bluetooth (A2DP) wireless module and an FM-radio with RDS. There is the support of Memory Stick Micro (M2) cards. These are non-official details, not yet confirmed by the vendor.

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More live pics of HTC Polaris
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

The Cool Smartphone has posted some live pictures of HTC Polaris (recently we’ve got the commercial name of the product – HTC Touch Cruise). HTC Polaris is a more advanced successor to HTC P3300 (HTC Artemis). A week back there was a presentation in Amsterdam, which revealed the following specs: GSM/GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSDPA networks, Windows Mobile 6 Professional OS, TouchFLO interface, a QVGA display, an integrated GPS-receiver, two cameras, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth wireless modules and a microSD-slot. HTC Touch Cruise (Polaris) will probably become commercially available late in November.

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iPhone in Canada on December 7?
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

The info on Apple iPhone coming to Canada via Rogers operator has already popped up in web sources. And now we can come across the following picture:
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/rogers-iphone-canada-dec-7.jpg)

As you can see, the device is available for preorder, so you can get it on December 7, the official announcement date. The price tag makes up 499 Canadian dollars equivalent to 520 US dollars, on a 3-year service plan. However there is a chance we deal with another fake.

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HP iPAQ 210 suspended, while HP iPAQ 110 to come soon
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

We’ve recently mentioned that HP decided to suspend the release of the iPAQ 110 and 210 handhelds. This time HP’s PR-manager Mike Hockey has partially confirmed the info: HP iPAQ 210 Enterprise Handheld will indeed be released not earlier than 2008, while HP iPAQ 110 Classic is on its way. The Asian company engaged in making HP devices has launched the shipments, i.e. the iPAQ 110 will soon be in stores. Mr. Hockey noted that the problems with the iPAQ 210 shipments are being solved right now.
I’d remind you that HP iPAQ 110 and 210 were announced in September and scheduled for late October 2007. The iPAQ 210 has more advanced specs against the iPAQ 110, a VGA-display being one of them. The price for the 210 makes up $450 and for the 110 - $300.

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LG-LB2500H Shine Wood
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

LG has made a Korean release of a new Shine phone – LG-LB2500H Wood. This clamshell is peculiar for its wood textured shell and glittering metallic elements. It is already available in the Korean stores at 473000 Won (i.e. $515).

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/LG-LB2500H%20Wood.jpg)

The specs of LG-LB2500H Shine Wood:
Main display – 2.2” (QVGA, 260K colors)
External display – 1.1” (65K colors)
2-megapixel camera
MP3-player
Bluetooth interface
DMB broadcasting
800 mAh battery
Talk time – approx. 120 minutes
Standby time – approx. 110 hours
Dimensions – 96.5x49.5x14.8 mm
Weight - 119 g


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Review of QWERTY-communicator HTC TyTN II
The Kaiser was one long-awaited phone. It was almost half a year between the moment when first notes and rumors about it spread across the Web and its official announcement. But curiously, during all these months, the company didn’t seem to care much about this device, in contrast to, say, the HTC P5500/Nike, the next touch-phone in HTC’s portfolio...
Read next>>> http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-tytn2-en.shtml

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Review of GSM/UMTS-smartphone Sony Ericsson W960i

Over at Sony Ericsson they live in a happy delusion, popular with some other makers as well, that consumers are very straightforward in their thoughts and motives. Specifically, if there was a music-playing handset last year, then this year those who went for the original phone will set their eyes on the updated version. And will never ever consider similar phones, even those offered by the same manufacturer...
Read next>>> http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-w960-en.shtml

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Pantech Duo Dual-Slider Coming to AT&T
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Do you want a dual-sliding phone like the Helio Ocean, but don't want to sign up with Helio and prefer Windows Mobile to Helio's great OS? Do you also want to sign up with AT&T? Uh… OK. Good news for you: AT&T is getting the Pantech Duo (i.e. the Pantech C180), a sleek-looking dual-slider that zips along on their 3G HSDPA network. It runs Windows Mobile 6, has a 1.3-megapixel camera, and can do push email. Look for it to drop at the end of the month for $250 with 2-year soul-selling agreement.

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 31, 2007, 08:44:47 AM
Will the news ever stop?
Hopefully on Friday Nokia will have some suprises up the sleeve other than the N82.
Next week SonyEricsson will announce their new models,so lot of new shit to look out for...



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Diamond iPhone for the Christmas
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
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Alexander Amosu Luxury Phones has introduced the world first (as it says) diamond iPhone. The device is coated with 420 white, black or rose diamonds – a total of 5.65 carats. There are 3 shell solutions available: steel, 18-carat white or yellow gold.
Apple iPhone Diamond version will be released in limited edition on November 9. The price for the precious device will start from $41000. The iPhone will come with one year free international concierge service. According to Amosu, Apple iPhone in gold and diamonds might be the best Christmas present.

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Jealous of the Japenese: A Sony Ericsson 5.1 megapixel monster
http://www.intomobile.com/
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If you ever needed a reason to commit harri karri then let me introduce you to the Sony Ericsson Cybershot with a 5.1 megapixel camera, Xenon flash, 3x optical zoom, 480×864 resolution 2.7 inch screen in a device that is only 113 × 50 × 20 mm and weights 150 grams. At the Symbian Smartphone Show I got to play with Japenese cellphones and one of the first things that struck me was how they’re essentially all large clamshells, I’m talking Nokia N93 large.

It makes sense when you think about how many hours of the day these people spend buried in their device. A large screen that can fit a lot of data is a must. I admit I’m jealous and while I’m not usually a fan of clamshells, that resolution would make me switch in a heart beat. Damn thing has a higer resolution than the Internet Tablet and most UMPC’s!

Expect this beast to be announced tomorrow as apart of NTT DoCoMo’s new 905i lineup.

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Nokia N82 spotted in Argentina
http://www.intomobile.com/
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Shame Shame Shame on this Nokia employee. Usually when TRUE (no clue what it stands for) testing (the last stage of ironing out the kinks where they give out several hundred devices to Nokia employees) you are given the device and a very discrete case that nearly covers up the entire phone. Looks like this woman didn’t feel like following the rules and this picture is the result. The N82 can not come any sooner, people want to have the N95 in a candy bar form factor and the Xenon flash is just an added bonus.  Here is hoping it includes the DAC that the N81 has inside as well.

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Google is about to make some moves in the mobile industry - Google Phone announcement in mid-November?
http://www.intomobile.com/
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Word on the street has it that Google is set to finally firm up all the rumors surrounding the search giant’s entry into the super-competitive mobile market. According to “sources,” The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Google is planning to officially announce its plans for the wireless industry “within the next two weeks” - which means we’re looking for Google to spill the beans sometime in mid-November.

Speculation had Google planning a fully-branded and cheap smartphone based on a Linux mobile OS - then we heard that there would be no such phone from Google. Other rumors had Google developing mobile applications. More recent rumors had Google developing a Linux-based mobile OS for ODM (like manufacturersHTC, LG, and even Samsung) to use in a new line of mobile phones.

“In recent months Google has approached several U.S. and foreign handset manufacturers about the idea of building phones tailored to Google software, with Taiwan’s HTC Corp. and South Korea’s LG Electronics Inc. mentioned in the industry as potential contenders. Google is also seeking partnerships with wireless operators.” And, we’re looking for T-Mobile to take the Google Phone live in the US, with Hutchison 3 and Orange picking up the gPhone(s) for the European market.

The Google Phone should bring together the ever popular Google search engine, Google Maps, YouTube, and Gmail services into an open-source OS - unlike the iPhone, which already integrates these functions but limits them to Apple’s control (at least for now). That means development for the Google Phone will be open to the average Joe (as long as Joe knows how to code for a Linux environment).

We can’t wait for HTC and LG to launch their Google-powered smartphones. And, as long as we’re semi-speculating here, we’re hoping for a low-cost GPS phone with huge touchscreens. Fingers crossed….

Footnote: Don’t get worked up over that pic above - it’s a mockup/concept.

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Another hugely expensive Vertu phone - $85,000 for a phone
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/
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Sure, it’s a Vertu. Sure, there’s a high-class aura about it. Sure, it’s covered (encrusted, if you will) in more precious stones than that Diamond iPhone we just mentioned. But, is it worth the price of a Porsche Carrera 997? Hardly.

The Vertu lineup of high-end (at least in price) mobile phones are already crazy expensive, but when you bling it out with more diamonds than a conflict-mine in Sierra Leone, you get a Vertu phone that’s supposedly worth $85,000. The special $85K Vertu phone is being shown off at Nokia’s new flagship store in Shanghai, China.

Right. We’d rather plunk down that $85 Large on a brand new Porsche Carrera 997 or maybe the new BMW M3 (with change to spare). But, then again, if you’re seriously contemplating an $85,000 mobile phone, you probably already have a garage full of super-exotics. In that case, just donate us that Aston Martin Vantage and call it a tax write-off, will ya?

Keep reading for more pics.

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An Apple iPhone native app-a-day keeps the boredom away
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/
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Not sure which native iPhone apps you want to install on your iPhone? It can be a bit overwhelming, wading through all the third-party applications available through Nullriver’s Installer.app.

Well, App-a-day is here to make it easier on you. Download and install the App-a-day, um, app through Installer.app and you’ll have access to daily-updated lists of third-party iPhone applications. The first app on the list for November 1 is “Pumpkin.” Not sure how to get third-party applications/jailbreak on your iPhone? Check out the one-click jailbreak solution that will install Installer.app for you. It’s so simple you can’t screw it up - we call it idiot proof.

With the App-a-day application, we should have more than enough distraction until Apple releases the official iPhone SDK early next year.


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Picture of the day: LG Touch concept
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#16413

After the launch of the iPhone many mobile phone makers thought of their best answer. Some vendors have offered finished solutions, for example, we can treat the co-product of LG and Prada as the iPhone competitor. But the South Korean maker is moving ahead – we can see pictures of a new concept phone in the Internet.
As wee see from the pictures, the phone comes with a touchscreen and is motion sensitive – the technology applied in Sony Ericsson W910. I’d note the outstanding design of accessories – the cradle with the touch QWERTY-keyboard…

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SE PXi from Bogar Bence – concept phone for lefties
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#16413

Bogar Bence designer has introduced a concept of SE PXi mobile phone. The developer designed it for convenient use by both lefties and righties. The device is equipped with a 3.3” touchscreen display, which supports automatic screen orientation when rotating. You can control it with the stylus and fingers. In addition the SE PXi features a dual slot, a 5-megapixel Cybershot camera and stereo speakers. For now we have just a concept phone under the Sony Ericsson brand for left-handed users. It’s not clear whether the company plans to launch the device.

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Finger-friendly interface for Symbian UIQ?
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#16413

We’ve got out hands on an interesting photo from a presentation. Supposedly, it shows a new user’s interface for UIQ platform codenamed Maria. It seems to be finger-oriented beyond the stylus control. However there is no official info on Maria, so we can judge from the picture.
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/UIQ%20Maria1.jpg)

When the new UIQ version (if exists) will be announced or SE devices based on it will come out is anyone’s guess. The info might be true and the presentation revealed a finger-friendly UIQ interface. At least the company should think over to work in this direction to increase competitiveness of its products: the finger control is already implemented in iPhone and TouchFLO for WM-communicators, let alone upcoming Symbian S60 Touch.

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Dog dressed up in the iPhone costume for the Halloween celebration
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/
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With Halloween behind us, I’m sure you’ve noticed many strange costumed kids out there. Hack, you may have been that lucky to attend one of those Halloween parties, which I admit, I adore. Anyway, we’ve spotted a fairly ugly puppy dressed up in an iPhone costume. Ok, you may like the puppy, but it’s just not my kind of dog.

Whatever the case is - have a nice weekend. Relax, but stay tuned - we’ll be bringing you more news on both Saturday and Sunday…

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Hot Deal: US spec Nokia N95 for $599.99 on TigerDirect - Cheap Nokia N95-3!
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/
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If you’ve been drooling over the Nokia N95 but haven’t been able to muster the $700 entry price for the North American N95 with US-friendly 3G frequencies, here’s some good news. TigerDirect.com has the Nokia N95-3 (the N95-3 is the US version, while the N95-1 denotes the European version), for the low, low price of $599.99. We’ve been scouring the nets for a cheap US-spec Nokia N95, and Craigslist and eBay both lose out to TigerDirect.

Stefan already covered what the differences between the Nokia N95-1 and N95-3, but here’s a quick rundown. The Nokia N95-3 trades a camera lens cover for a larger, much needed battery, the Plum battery cover has gone Black, RAM has been doubled, and the WCDMA radio now works on the US-friendly 850 and 1900Mhz frequencies.

For all of you that bought the North American N95-3 at the initial $700 price, we’re sorry to bring you this news. The N95-3 barely hit Yankee shores and there’s already a $200 $100 price drop? If it makes you feel any better, Apple screwed us for $200 for our iPhones just three months after it launched.

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Sony Ericsson K660i spotted
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/11/04/sony-ericsson-k660i-spotted.html#more-12719
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Sony Ericsson K660i has been spotted on the handset maker’s UK website. The upcoming device will be available in two colors — “Lime on White” and “Wine on Black” — and will among other things pack a 2 MP camera, stereo Bluetooth support, HSDPA, and M2 memory stick slot. As for the pre-installed software, users can expect SE’s classic mobile suite that includes web browser, RSS reader, 3D Java games, sound recorder, instant messaging and more. The K660i measures 104×47x14.7 mm and weighs 96 grams. We’re not sure when will this phone be released, but in the meantime you can check out few more pictures after the jump.

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Concept – iPhone killer by Sony Ericsson
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

An Esato forum member known as beta-tester has posted his version of a new Sony Ericsson’s smartphone P3i. The idea is that the device works on new interface for UIQ platform (finger-oriented input). We’ve recently written about leaked pictures from the closed presentation probably demonstrating the interface. Sony Ericsson hasn’t made any official confirmation and its fans are creating the iPhone-style concepts.
Sony Ericsson P3i is equipped with a big touchscreen and has no buttons. In addition the device combines advantages of Cyber-shot cameraphones (5-megapixel camera) and Walkman handsets. But I’d remind you this is just a concept. So time will show what will be the real iPhone killer by Sony Ericsson (if exists).

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Samsung jumping into touchscreen phone frenzy
http://www.intomobile.com/
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t’s not like Samsung doesn’t have a single touchscreen enabled device on the market — it’s that their upcoming M4650 model clearly resembles the iPhone. Their idea is simple - they want to introduce the iPhone-like device in Korea before Apple does.

Apparently, the upcoming “multi-touch phone” will be hitting Samsung’s domestic market via LG Telecom. It will be smaller than the iPhone, sporting 2.8″ LCD display with haptic feedback, but also the T-DMB receiver for watching mobile TV. The phone is running on top of Marvel 624MHz PXA300 CPU and Windows Mobile 6.

The first image looks promising and yes, we would like to see this baby hitting the western hemisphere as well. Just please don’t make it another Vodafone exclusive like you’ve already did with the F700…




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NTT DoCoMo introduces 23 new models in 905i and 705i series
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#16445

Today Japan’s mobile service provider NTT DoCoMo introduced 23 models in 905i and 705i series, which will be available in a total of 70 colors.
All ten 905i handsets will feature some advanced and convenient functions, i.e. 3G/GSM roaming, HSDPA, “One-segment” digital TV, GPS navigation, enhanced 2-in-1 service, DCMX (credit card payment system) and iD (credit payment).

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/905i_Lines1.jpg)

The operator notes that the 905i series has upgraded value of the current models. In addition the 905i series is compatible with the new “Area mail” disaster information service aimed to provide people caught in disaster areas with vital information.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/905i_Lines2.jpg)

The 705i series includes 13 slim handsets with sophisticated design and array of full-spec functions. The series comprises the world’s slimmest clamshell and waterproof handsets and the slimmest “One-segment” models.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/705iLineup1.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/705iLineup2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Prosolidm_P705iCS.jpg)

The D905i, F905i, N905i, P905i, SH905i, SO905i and N905iμ are scheduled for November 26, 2007. The operator will launch the Cyber-shot SO905iCS, AQUOS SH905iTV and D705iμ, N705iμ, P705iμ, D705i, F705i, L705i, N705i, P705i during January-February 2008. And the NM705i, SH705i, SO705i and PROSOLID μ (P705iCL) should start in February, and the VIERA P905iTV and L705iX – in February-March 2008.




I have to get one of these ASAP!
I hate those morons that talk on their phone in "public"


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Having fun with cellphone jammers - when ideals are just plain fun
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/phone-etiquette.jpg)

There’s a certain level of etiquette that’s expected of mobile phone users in public. Keep your phone on vibrate while in quiet environments (movie theaters, libraries, restaurants, etc.). Try to step outside if your conversation is going to take any significant length of time. Keep your voice down to a minimum - we’re talking to all you loud-talkers out there (no one wants to hear your conversation, it’s annoying). Unfortunately, many cellphone users out there are quite oblivious to these societal ideals.
So, what’s an idealistic crusader for mobile phone etiquette to do? Get a cellphone jammer. If you find yourself having to teach that loud-talking, teen-aged valley girl a thing or two about minding her manners, just reach in your pocket and activate that wireless jammer. There have been a slew of portable signal jammers of late, and it seems that there’s a reason for it. As wireless signal jammers are becoming more and more accessible, Americans are taking matters of mobile phone ideals into their own hands - literally.

But, does your crusade have to be all business and no fun? Absolutely not. It turns out that people love the power that they can wield over the unsuspecting “loud-talker.” Cutting off an annoying cellphone user not only teaches them a lesson, it’s immensely entertaining to watch them try and re-acquire a wireless signal.

We’re not condoning such actions. But, should you find yourself needing to unleash your own brand of wireless justice on all those obnoxious mobile phone talkers, make sure you don’t jam an innocent by-stander’s polite conversation. Oh, and br careful about how you do it - wireless carriers pay boat-loads of cash to the government for the right to use their respective wireless frequencies, and they’ll think nary a moment before fining you thousands of dollars per jamming-incident.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 31, 2007, 12:26:57 PM
props for the news! IT WILL NEVER STOP!!! the nokia n82 looks like a silver n73! cant wait to have one in my hands!!who's gonna buy a 85 000$ phone?maybe some rich fuck in dubai or bahrain!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on October 31, 2007, 12:36:37 PM
props for the news! IT WILL NEVER STOP!!! the nokia n82 looks like a silver n73!
Cant wait to have one in my hands!!
who's gonna buy a 85 000$ phone? maybe some rich fuck in dubai or bahrain!

I guess it´s meant to be the succesor to N73 by the looks of it.
Nothing wrong with that,the phone was a big success and it´s still selling.
Classic design and all the features that´s available,can´t go wrong.
What up Matty,has the 8GB cards hit the stores yet?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on October 31, 2007, 01:24:00 PM
like you said aint nothing wrong with that cause the n73 was a good phone (i have one and i still love it) but i cant wait to buy the n82!!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 04, 2007, 08:42:39 PM
Nokia now N-Gage-ing in December
Leading mobile phone carrier delays built-in gaming service "a couple of weeks" due to extended software-testing period; Warner Music pulls support.
By Tom Magrino, GameSpot
Posted Nov 2, 2007 5:13 pm PT
In August, Nokia announced it would be reviving the N-Gage gaming platform. Eshewing the clunky "sidetalkin'" N-Gage hardware of the past, the latest incarnation of the service will be built in to new Nokia mobile phones and will be based on software downloads versus game cartridges.

The N-Gage service was scheduled for a global was launch this month, However, Reuters reports today that the service has been postponed due to an extended software-testing period. "N-Gage is coming in December. Software testing is taking a bit more time than what we had expected," said Nokia representative Kari Tuutti. "We are talking about a couple of weeks."

When the service does go live, it is expected to offer mobile versions of The Sims 2: Pets, Tetris, FIFA 08, Crash Bandicoot and other games for around $8 to $14. Models thus far slated to be compatible with the service include Nokia N73, N81, N81 8GB, N93, N93i, N95, and N95 8GB.

The N-Gage hold-up isn't the only adversity facing Nokia's online strategy this week. Warner Music Group has pulled its support of the Nokia Music Store, partly over concerns of illegal file sharing at Nokia's online music download service Mosh, reports the Wall Street Journal.

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: herpes on November 04, 2007, 10:48:40 PM
the iphone and any of these new phones aint fuckin with my phone.......


(http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/page/zackmorrisphone-10128.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on November 05, 2007, 11:50:32 AM
the n81 is another horrible nokia, let it be known!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 07, 2007, 03:17:43 PM
OOOhhhhh Weeeeee I got some good news for you Tony!
Some good photo´s of N82 has leaked!


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Nokia's N82 spotted, handled in the wild
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/07/nokias-n82-spotted-handled-in-the-wild/
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/11-7-07-n82_1.jpg)

In the midst of all this Gphone hysteria, we won't fault you for forgetting about a Nokia candybar first noticed way back in May, but pictured above is the first (confirmed, at least) in the wild shot of the firm's 5MP-packin' N82. You heard right -- this handset sports a five-megapixel camera (complete with Carl Zeiss lens and a Xenon flash), WiFi, Bluetooth, integrated GPS, 3G connectivity, Nokia Music Store access and automatic screen rotation. Regrettably, there's still no word on a price / release date, but click on through for a couple more angles, and check out what the built-in camera can do in the read link.

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/11-7-07-n82_2.jpg)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/11-7-07-n82_3.jpg)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/11-7-07-n82_4.jpg)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/11/11-7-07-n82_lens.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/06.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/11.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/09.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/01.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/08.jpg)

From www.intomobile.com ;
If you’ve been waiting anxiously for the Nokia N82 to hit the ground running with its long, 5 megapixel, Carl-Zeiss legs, you’ll have to keep waiting a bit longer. But, we have some more pics of the N95’s candybar-sibling for you to drool over in the meantime (or not, we prefer the N95). Again, this thing’s packing the same serious guts (aside from the addition of the Xenon flash) as it’s sliding Nokia stablemate - integrated GPS, 3G (HSDPA), WiFi, 5 megapixel camera with Carl-Zeiss optics and Xenon flash, Bluetooth, access to Nokia’s Music Store, and automatic screen rotation (a la the “rotateme” accelerometer tweak on the N95). That’s right! Nokia’s given the N82 out-of-the-box screen rotation.
Nokia’s apparently gone official with its accelerometer support on the Nokia N82, so we’re wondering what their plans are for the Nokia N95’s accelerometer. Will Nokia release an update to leverage the built-in accelerometer to enable an official auto-rotate feature? Well, if they don’t, at least we have “rotateme.”
Head on over to Symbian-Freak to check out the full hands-on experience. Interesting footnote - they excuse the photo quality because all pics were taken with an N95. What?



Found some more images of N82,here you can see the size compared to N73 and E90
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Just another SF exclusiveNokia N82 hands on!!!
http://symbian-freak.com/news/007/11/nokia_n82_hands_on.htm
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/06.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/11.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/09.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/01.jpg)
(http://symbian-freak.com/images/news/07/11/n82/08.jpg)

As you may have already know, Nokia N82 is the long awaited Nokia camera phone, the first one that will features XENON flash and of course famous Carl Zeiss optic supported with the 5 mpx sensor.

Basically it has all you need, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, USB port, 3G and yes it features the GPS too!!! Just like all latest Nseries devices it features the N-Gage gaming platform (2 demo games available.. Fifa 07 and Asphalt 3) and the Music store as well which is currently Nokia N95 8GB and Nokia N81 exclusive.

Also there is an one very handy innovation, auto screen rotation is available and it is a bit different than the one in the iPhone. While the iPhone use screen rotation for few specific applications only, applications like the Safari, image viewer and the iPod, Nokia UI allows the rotation almost everywhere, from the main screen to the gaming.

The rotation is definitely smoother and looks better with the iPhone, actually to be precise with an iPhone you can actually see the rotation while the Nokia just switch from one to another mode without any kind of transition when rotating.

Same as with Nokia N81 there is shortcut key to new and pretty handy multimedia menu that allows fast access to videos, photos, music, games, etc.... .

What I really not like here is the microUSB port, it is mainly beacuse I got another cable to carry around. The good thing about new connector is fact that it can be used as a charger just like with the Luna 8600.




Even more "spy" photo´s have leaked of N82
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/08112007005_320_small.jpg)
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/08112007005_320_small.jpg)
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/01012007001_320_small.jpg)
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/01012007001_320_small.jpg)
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/01012007002_320_small.jpg)
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/08112007_320_small.jpg)
(http://www.pdafrance.com/img/news2007/08112007_320_small.jpg)

These photo´s is a little better,,,,, so what do you think now?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 07, 2007, 03:47:58 PM
props!!! i dont find the desing cool but i dont find it ugly...only the price will tell me now if i want 1 or no
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on November 08, 2007, 06:27:22 AM
yeah the n82 looks alright. the n81 feels like a really cheap piece of plastic though...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 09, 2007, 04:12:28 AM
props!!!
I dont find the design cool but I dont find it ugly... only the price will tell me now if i want 1 or no

I assume the price will be around 700-1000$ without contract.
You can't expect less for a top of the line model. I'm still waiting for a street date....
Well the design,hmmm the sad thing they have "copied" SE's "new" fucked up key pad.

the N81 is another horrible nokia, let it be known!

Ha,ha why is that?
It looks like a budget N95,that have it´s focus on games.


Yeah the N82 looks alright.
The N81 feels like a really cheap piece of plastic though...

I guess you get what you pay for,it´s a budget N95( 8GB) for "kids".
A multi media phone with focus on games and MP3.
The camera is crap and assume there´s no "business" applications installed(?).
What about 8GB memory cards,have they hit retail yet?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 12:44:47 PM
it's ok i guess,nothing spectacular but it aint that ulgy either
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 01:10:24 PM
it's ok i guess,nothing spectacular but it aint that ulgy either

I´m actually starting to feel it more and more,the silver put me a little of.
It might look better in black? But it´s a combination for me,features comes first then design.
The only thing that really put me off on this design is the small keys on the key pad.
I hate those on the new SE phone´s and Nokia follow up on this design trend ain´t a good sign.
I´m not a big fan of slider phones,but Nokia released their top dog as a slider first,so what choice did I have?
Now that the same features come in a classic candy bar design,I might cope that one.
The only thing that can hold me back is if I don´t feel comfortable with the key pad.

it will be cooler in black! i feel the same way as you,i like better the candy bar phones than the sliding phones but if i dont feel the keypad is good i might pass out on this
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 09, 2007, 01:11:31 PM
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Nokia N96 rumor
http://www.letsgomobile.org/en/2525/nokia-n96/

Last week we have had a meeting with Nokia at the Nokia Xperience Zone. Back then, Nokia already unveiled us that they will reveal some new mobile phones in November, some high quality photographic features would be included as well. In the meantime, various websites have spoken about a rumor on the new Nokia multimedia computer; the Nokia N96. We wouldn't be surprised if this rumor will be confirmed before the end of the year. According to the appeared specifications the Nokia N96 will feature a 6 megapixel Carl Zeiss lens, which was 5 megapixels on its predecessor the N95. Moreover the N96 would feature 3x optical zoom as well, which gives the user much more photography possibilities.

(http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/news/nokia/nokia-n96.jpg)

Nokia N96 10GB
The Nokia N95 has recently been updated with an 8GB version, according to the rumors, the new N96 multimedia computer would even be integrated with 10GB of internal memory! The Nokia N96 HSDPA will be further equipped with a 3,2 inch screen, WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0, Mini USB 2.0 and Infrared connectivity. A touch screen, joystick navigation and motion sensor wouldn't be missing either.

(http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/news/nokia/n96.jpg)

Unofficial Nokia N96 - Specifications

• Band 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

• HSDPA / WCDMA 2100

• 3.2 inch full color toch screen with joystick navigation
• WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0, Mini USB 2.0 and infrared connectivity

• Full QWERTY keyboard

• Internal memory of 10 GB
• 6 Megapixel digital camera with Carl Zeiss

• Motion sensor and GPS

• 3x Optical zoom

• 3.5mm jack and 4 build-in speakers

• Digital TV / FM Radio

• Dimensions : 102.5 × 56 × 17.6 mm

• Weight : 115 grams

• Nokia N96 comes in two colors

(http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/news/nokia/nokia-n96-mobile-phone.jpg)

Nokia N96 rumor
It sure looks like the Nokia N96 will be a very promising cell phone. As soon as we got a confirmation about this new high tech multimedia computer we will bring you the full story!

(http://www.letsgomobile.org/images/news/nokia/nokia_n96.jpg)

 

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 01:16:36 PM
do you think it's fake? it looks legit to me
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 09, 2007, 01:20:06 PM
it's ok i guess,nothing spectacular but it aint that ulgy either

I´m actually starting to feel it more and more,the silver put me a little of.
It might look better in black? But it´s a combination for me,features comes first then design.
The only thing that really put me off on this design is the small keys on the key pad.
I hate those on the new SE phone´s and Nokia follow up on this design trend ain´t a good sign.
I´m not a big fan of slider phones,but Nokia released their top dog as a slider first,so what choice did I have?
Now that the same features come in a classic candy bar design,I might cope that one.
The only thing that can hold me back is if I don´t feel comfortable with the key pad.

It will be cooler in black!
I feel the same way as you,I like better the candy bar phones than the sliding phones
but if i dont feel the keypad is good i might pass out on this

True,I don´t if you tried the key-pad on
SE W880
(http://cn.engadget.com/images/2007/02/gsmarena_ofic002.jpg)
(http://www.3dnews.ru/_imgdata/img/2006/12/16/35798.jpg)

If it´s anything like that,then I´ll keep my slider a little longer,because their terrible to use in real life.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 01:22:19 PM
the buttons are so small ! like you said if they are like that im keeping my phone!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 01:27:51 PM
do you think it's fake? it looks legit to me

Nope,I think this one is legit.
But it looks kind of big don´t it?
10GB internal memory is pretty good,I don´t need more than 5MPX camera,so 6MPX don´t attract me.
This will be some kind of cross between N93 and E90 I think.

yeah it looks big! 10 gig is enough i think,dont think we need more on a phone!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 09, 2007, 01:42:42 PM
do you think it's fake? it looks legit to me

Nope,I think this one is legit.
But it looks kind of big don´t it?
10GB internal memory is pretty good,I don´t need more than 5MPX camera,so 6MPX don´t attract me.
This will be some kind of cross between N93 and E90 I think.

yeah it looks big! 10 gig is enough i think,dont think we need more on a phone!

You can never get enough,but 10 GB internal is enough as long as I can expand with memory cards.
Damn,I have to delete albums from my 4GB card every time something new drops,so I´m waiting to cope the 8GB card.
Maaaaatttttttyyyyyyy,has the 8GB hit retail yet?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 01:45:59 PM
8gb card? now thats dope  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 09, 2007, 02:11:37 PM
8gb card? now thats dope  8)

It should be on the way to the stores.....
Waiting for Matty to confirm.
Have you bought a 4GB card yet?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on November 09, 2007, 02:25:32 PM
8gb?? you on about the N95 8gb or memory cards?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 09, 2007, 02:33:03 PM
8gb card? now thats dope  8)

It should be on the way to the stores.....
Waiting for Matty to confirm.
Have you bought a 4GB card yet?

not yet! but if the 8gb comes out in a couple of weeks i might wait for the 8gb
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 11, 2007, 04:05:58 PM
The very first N82 video!
http://www.youtube.com/v/Zw6P0GWHnxo&rel



cool video! cant wait to have one in my hands too see if i like it
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 12, 2007, 09:01:52 AM
NEWS;

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Doro mobile phone for elderly
http://www.intomobile.com/
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/doro.jpg)

While all of us at IntoMobile use smartphones and love ranting about them, sometimes we have to also add a post or two about low-end feature phones. One such device which is extremely easy to use and lacks sooo many features is HandlePlus 324gsm.

The work of Swedish manufacturer Doro is primarily designed for elderly who actually don’t need that many options. The device lacks any display but comes with a total of 7 large buttons, 5 of them programmable, a talk and an end-call button. Combined with a vibration alert, neck lanyard, built-in speakerphone and the low price of only £85.10 (plus taxes) - makes the device a perfect choice for the senior citizens. One thing that bother us is a ridiculously bad battery life of just 3 hours of talk time. Weird, don’t you think?

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HTC's Touch Cruise with GPS gets official
http://www.engadget.com/
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HTC Touch Cruise (HTC Polaris) in action!
http://www.youtube.com/v/Cfc8CllDk2U&rel

HTC Touch Cruise VS Iphone The Microsoft VS Apple war will never end  :laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/v/uXzUMyKy2x4&rel

HTC just went live with their Touch Cruise. "Touch" as in that TouchFLO interface, "Cruise" as in GPS-enabled. The third addition to HTC's Touch lineup packs HSDPA, WiFi, Bluetooth, a 3 megapixel camera, microSD expansion, and a 2.8-inch touch-screen lying on top of a Windows Mobile 6 foundation. Oh, and it's loaded with TomTom Navigator 6 software to make the most of that GPS receiver. Yup, everything mostly what we thought it would be. Available this month from European retailers or SIM-free direct from HTC.

Update: We're still digging but HTC was a bit unkind by not providing specific country launch information or supported radio bands. At the moment, this looks like Europe-only.



Google has just presented a new open mobile platform.
They´re even giving out money to the clever people that can come up with useful applications for the platform.


Android Demo
http://www.youtube.com/v/_avwGFsv60U&rel

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 12, 2007, 01:01:22 PM
Application update;


Symbian;
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Review: Shazam iD, TrackID is no longer just a Sony Ericsson thing
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/11/11/review-shazam-id-trackid-is-no-longer-just-a-sony-ericsson-thing.html
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0005.jpg)

f you have a Sony Ericsson device released in the past 2 years or so then you have a most awesome application on your device called TrackID. If you never used it before, here is what you’re missing out on: Once you open the TrackID application you can hold your phone up to a speaker playing a song and within a few seconds you have the name of the track, artist and album you’re currently listening to. This works with the radio as well so you don’t even have to take off your headphones in that situation.

I have long been an advocate that Nokia get off their ass and replicate this application for their S60 powered devices, but my complaints fell on deaf ears. That is until now.

Where did I find it?

I immediately went off on a quest to find this application,
but my efforts were thwarted once I reached
Shazam’s website.
http://www.shazam.com/music/portal/sp/s/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default/template/pages/p/shazam_id.html
Not only does this company fail to provide a URL for a SIS file, you have to be a UK resident and send a premium SMS to get a download URL. Who do I know in the UK? The folks over at All About Symbian! I sent an email to both Rafe and Steve asking if they could help me out with this review by giving me the download URL and they did without hesitation, thanks guys.

The link is
http://www.shazam.com/shazamid
and you have to visit it in your mobile web browser. This should make typing it out a lot less painful:
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazamid_qr.png)

Let me convince you to download this!

Here is Shazam’s icon. I find it horrible, which is why I’m pointing it out, in hope that they change it in future versions:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0004.jpg)

The splash screen is the first image on the top of this post, here is what you see after that disappears:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0008.jpg)

When you click “Tag Now” the application automatically begins to record a short snippet of the audio currently playing. This takes around 5 seconds at best, I didn’t time it so don’t quote me on that:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0020.jpg)

After it is finished Shazam will ask you to connect to the internet, in this case I selected my provider, Kolumbus:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0023.jpg)

What is this young, single, mobile phone addict listening to? Rick Astley! The song name scrolls, artist name is right under that and the last line indicates the time when you clicked on “Tag Me.” One more thing, full album art! I’ll come back to what that 1/14 indicates:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0026.jpg)

When clicking on “Share it,” a text message entry dialog pops up allowing you to send an SMS to a friend who might like, laugh at, or hate this song:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0031.jpg)

RealTone doesn’t work for me, it just pulls up Shazam’s site, which is useless. Now what did that 1/14 indicate? MyMusic is a list of all the songs you identified. No clue as to the limit of items within that list. Yes I like Modern Talking, no I’m not gay:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0041.jpg)

Moving one tab over to “TagChart” you can see the most popular songs people are trying to identify:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0049.jpg)

That is all. A very simple application, it does 4 things: ID the song currently playing, list the songs you tagged, list the songs people are tagging the most and letting you share the name of that track with your friends.

Message to Nokia:
Clone this
Add the ability to “Download now via the Nokia Music Store”
Add the ability for me to identify songs currently playing on the radio
Let me see what songs my friends are tagging
Let me see what songs my country and other countries are tagging
Do it before Sony Ericsson does because they already have plans to implement everything I just said.

Update: A developer asked me if Shazam and TrackID poll the same database, they do, it is called Gracenote. I’ve also decided to throw in one more screenshot of some songs I had playing over my stereo:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0050.jpg)

(http://www.shazam.com/music/images/s/shazamid_hd.jpg)
(http://www.shazam.com/music/images/s/shazamid.jpg)
http://www.shazam.com/music/portal/sp/s/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default/template/pages/p/shazam_id.html



The fully-featured, full-fat enhanced version of Shazam's world leading music recognition technology now available as a downloadable smart application for Symbian operating system handsets

(see list below for details of handsets Shazam iD will work on).

Full-resolution sensitivity - cuts through background noise to sample the tune.
Twice as fast - fingerprint is taken 'on device'.
Can be used even if there's no network connectivity - the sample is stored and can be sent later.
View cover art.
Check and manage your tag list direct from your handset.
Share your tags with friends.
See the latest weekly Tag Charts on your mobile.
Download it and try it for FREE today!
Text SMART to 80805
You get a text with a link to the download. Click on the link.
Shazam checks that your phone is compatible.
The application gets downloaded to the appropriate folder in your phone!
Open it and start experiencing the next level of music recognition.

(UK only service.)

Trial version is free to use for a limited term. Terms apply.
Tips for successful downloading.

Make sure your wap browser settings allow downloads.
Shazam iD works on the following handsets

(Symbian 3rd Edition Mobile Devices)

Nokia E50
Nokia E60
Nokia E61
Nokia E61i
Nokia E62
Nokia E65
Nokia E70
Nokia E90
Nokia N71
Nokia N73
Nokia N75
Nokia N76
Nokia N77
Nokia N80
Nokia N91
Nokia N92
Nokia N93
Nokia N93i
Nokia N95

Download link for Symbian;
http://www.shazam.com/shazamid




JAVA;
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InetTools- Free TrackID for Java J2ME Mobile Phones: Record Song using Mic to Identify/Recognise Track, Artist & Music Album
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/09/06/inettools-free-trackid-for-java-j2me-mobile-phones-record-song-using-mic-to-identifyrecognise-track-artist-music-album/

InetTools has released a free TrackID application for Java J2ME capable and MIDP 2.0 compatible mobile devices such as Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, Blackberry and Palm.

TrackID is a free service that allows you to capture and record any music, song or sound clip through the mobile phone’s microphone, compare it to online digital signatures on Gracenote, and recognise/identify the media’s track, artist, and album info. I have previously mentioned TrackID for Nokia S60 and TrackID for Windows Mobile devices. Now you can enjoy the same on any Java J2ME mobile device.

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InetTools TrackID allows you to record a few seconds of a song using the mobile phone’s microphone and get the track, artist and album information within a few seconds.

Download TrackID for Java J2ME mobile phones here;
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/09/06/inettools-free-trackid-for-java-j2me-mobile-phones-record-song-using-mic-to-identifyrecognise-track-artist-music-album/
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 12, 2007, 07:00:18 PM
the htc touch cruise looks nice  8) and i need to try out that application
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 13, 2007, 05:36:59 AM
the htc touch cruise looks nice  8) and i need to try out that application

The one for Symbian was for UK residents only  >:(.
I installed the JAVA one,will try it out later there´s a couple of joints I have taped from radio that I like to get a hold of.
So this should be a useful and fun application  :laugh:
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 13, 2007, 09:57:21 AM
It´s official!!!!!!

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Nokia N82 press photos leak
http://www.intomobile.com/
Disclosure: I’m currently writing this from a hotel room at the Crowne Plaza in Helsinki, provided for me by Nokia, because tomorrow a few bloggers are invited to an event. You can only guess what we’re going to be playing with.

More picture here on Nokia’s Official Press site.
http://www.nokia.com/A4136017?category=n82#
Update Again: In case Nokia decides to take down the pictures that they accidentally posted early (you never know) I’ve went ahead and mirrored them on intomobile
Flickr account here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/devilsrejection/sets/72157603138752088/
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The very first N82 video!
http://www.youtube.com/v/Zw6P0GWHnxo&rel



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Technical specifications
http://europe.nokia.com/A4674003


Operating Frequency
WCDMA2100 (HSDPA), EGSM900, GSM850/1800/1900 MHz (EGPRS)
Automatic switching between bands and modes

Dimensions
Volume: 90 cc
Weight: 114 g
Length: 112 mm
Width: 50.2 mm
Thickness (max): 17.3 mm

Memory Functions
Up to 100MB internal dynamic memory*
for messages, ringing tones, images, video clips, calendar notes, to-do list and applications
Hot swappable microSD memory card slot

*Dynamic memory means that the available memory is shared between dynamic memory functions. When any of these functions is used, there is less available memory for other functions which are also dependent on dynamic memory.

Power Management
Battery: Nokia Battery (BP-6MT) 1050mAH
Talk time: up to 190 minutes (WCDMA),up to 260 minutes (GSM)
Stand-by time: up to 210 hours(WDCMA),up to 225 hours (GSM)
Still images: up to 290 pictures (with flash)
Video capture: up to 110 minutes (VGA, 30fps)
Video call: up to 120 minutes
Video playback time: up to 200 minutes (VGA, 30 fps)
Music playback time: up to 10 hours(offline mode)

*Operation times may vary depending on radio access technology used, operator network configuration and usage.

Display
2.4" LCD QVGA (240 x 320 pixels) TFT color display with up to 16.7 million colors

User Interface
Operating system: Symbian OS
User interface: S60 3rd edition, Feature Pack 1
Automatic screen rotation

Call Management
Logs: keeps lists of your dialed, received, and missed calls
Voice dialing (with Speaker independent name dialing (SIND)) and voice commands
Nokia Push to talk (PoC)

Messaging
E-mail (SMTP, IMAP4, POP3), MMS, SMS

Data Transfer*
WCDMA HSDPA 2100 MHz with simultaneous voice and packet data (PS max speed DL/UL= 3.6Mbps/384kbps, CS max speed 64kbps)
Dual Transfer Mode (DTM) support for simultaneous voice and packet data connection in GSM/EDGE networks. Simple class A, multi slot class 11, max speed DL/UL: 177.6/118.4 kbits/s
EGPRS class B, multi slot class 32, max speed DL/UL= 296 / 177.6 kbits/s
GPRS class B, multi slot class 32, max speed DL/UL= 107 / 64.2 kbits/s

*Actual achieved speeds may vary depending on network support.
Imaging

Imaging and video
Up to 5 megapixel (2592 x 1944 pixels) camera, Carl Zeiss Optics: Tessar™ lens, MPEG-4 VGA video capture of up to 30 fps
Direct connection to compatible TV via TV-out or wireless LAN/UPnP
Front camera, CIF (352 x 288 pixels) sensor for video telephony
Video call and video sharing support (WCDMA network services)
Integrated xenon flash
Slideshow from gallery
One-click upload of photos & videos to web
Nokia XpressPrint: direct printing via USB(PictBridge), Bluetooth connectivity (BPP), and WLAN (UPnP) or via online printing

Mobile Video
Video resolutions: up to VGA (640 x 480 pixels) at 30 fps
Recording indicator
Audio recording: AAC (AMR for MMS)
Digital video stabilization
Video file format .mp4 (default), .3gp (for MMS)
White balance, scene and color tone setting
Zoom: Digital up to 10x (VGA up to 4x)
Front camera: CIF (352 x 288 pixels) sensor for video telephony
On-device video editing

Mobile Photography
Image resolution: up to 5 megapixels (2592 x 1944 pixels)
Auto focus
Amber colored auto focus assist light and recording indicator
Still image file format: JPEG/EXIF
Auto exposure - center weighted
Exposure compensation: +2 ~ -2EV at 0.5 step
White balance: automatic, sunny, cloudy, incandescent, fluorescent
Scene: automatic, user, close-up, portrait, landscape, sports, night, night portrait
Color tone: normal, sepia, black & white, negative, vivid
Zoom: digital up to 20x (5 megapixel up to 6x)
Xenon flash
On-device photo editing

Camera Specifications
Sensor: CMOS, 5 megapixel (2592 x 1944)
Carl Zeiss Optics: Tessar™ lens
F number/Aperture: F2.8
Focal length 5.6 mm
Focus range 10 cm ~ infinity
Macro focus distance 10-50 cm
Music

Music Features
Digital music player - supports MP3/AAC/eAAC/eAAC+/WMA/M4A with playlists
OMA DRM 2.0/1.0 & WMDRM support for music
Integrated stereo hands-free speaker
Stereo FM radio (87.5-108MHz) with Visual Radio support
Nokia Stereo Headset HS-43 in-box
Bluetooth wireless technology 2.0 with A2DP Stereo audio

Video Features
Video player - supports MPEG4, AVC/H.264, H.264, H.263, RV
OMA DRM 2.0/1.0 & WMDRM support for video
Resolution: MPEG4 VGA @ up to 30 fps scaled to QVGA on device or VGA in TV-out mode
Transfer your videos from compatible PC: Windows Media Player, USB mass-storage file transfer or Nokia Nseries PC Suite using full-speed USB 2.0 connectivity

Video Center
Pre-configured video services and dynamic expansion with new services
Video podcasting: find, subscribe, download, view with mobile device

RealPlayer media player
Full-screen video playback to view downloaded, streamed or recorded video clips
Supported video formats: MPEG-4, H.264/AVC, H.263/3GPP, RealVideo 8/9/10

Navigation
Integrated Assisted Global Positioning System (A-GPS)
Pre-installed Nokia Maps application and free downloadable maps*

*The service is available free of charge, although any data transferred over the network will incur charges from your network operator. To check the availability and cost of the service, contact your network operator or service provider.

E-mail
Easy-to-use e-mail client with attachment support for images, videos, music and documents
Compatible with Nokia Wireless Keyboard SU-8W (sold separately)

Browsing
Full web browser support (HTML)

Digital home
Play video, music and photos on home media network - compatible TV, stereo and PC over WLAN/UPnP

Other Applications
Personal Information Management (PIM)
Advanced S60 PIM features including calendar, contacts, to-do list and PIM printing
Settings Wizard for easy configuration of e-mail, push to talk and video sharing
Data transfer application for transfer of PIM information from other compatible Nokia devices.
WLAN wizard

Connectivity
Integrated wireless LAN (802.11 b/g) and UPnP (Universal Plug and Play)
Bluetooth wireless technology with A2DP stereo audio
USB 2.0 via Micro USB interface and mass storage class support to support drag and drop functionality
3.5 mm stereo headphone plug(Nokia AV Connector)and TV out support (PAL/NTSC)
Nokia Nseries PC Suite connectivity with USB, and Bluetooth wireless technology
Local synchronization of contacts and calendar to a compatible PC using compatible connection
Remote over-the-air synchronization
Send and receive images, video clips, graphics, and business cards via Bluetooth wireless technology

Standard Sales Package Contents*
Nokia N82
Nokia Battery BP-6MT
Nokia Travel Charger AC-5
Nokia Music Headset HS-43
Nokia Connectivity Cable CA-101
Nokia Video Connectivity Cable CA-75U
Nokia 2GB microSD Card MU-37**

*Sales package content may vary by region.
**Card pre-installation may vary by region.

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 13, 2007, 07:15:14 PM
damn! i want that phone!!! 8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 14, 2007, 06:12:37 AM
8gb?? you on about the N95 8gb or memory cards?

memory card... (damn I missed your post  :laugh:)


Damn! i want that phone!!! 8)


Have updated the N82 post with more photos and the specs for N82.....
So you like it now?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 14, 2007, 03:07:09 PM
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Nokia N82 smartphone officially introduced
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
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Eventually a long-awaited Nokia N82 smartphone got official.
The vendor positions the smartphone as a multimedia device optimized for photo capture, navigation and Internet browsing.
The smartphone really has powerful features.
To top it all the developer has implemented a new 3D multimedia menu in Nokia N82.
There is the support of automatic screen orientation (switching between portrait and landscape).
Naturally it supports Ovi services, including Nokia Music Store, N-Gage and Nokia Maps.
The sales of Nokia N82
have already started on main world markets.

The price makes up some 700-800$.



WTF? It´s already out?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 14, 2007, 07:36:39 PM
So you like it now?

yeah the desing grew on me
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 15, 2007, 02:16:10 AM
Time for a NEWS update;

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Check out this N92 from China.
When first seeing the name, I thought this would be some Nokia ripoff but this isn't the case.
The phone has a design which combines black with chrome and features multicolor keypad lights.
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/11/n92-from-china.html

Here are the specs.
- 3 inch 16 million color QVGA touchscreen
- FM radio
- microSD support
- 2 cameras
- built in solar panel on the back
- measures 115x54x17 mm
- weighs 100 grams

It has a wannabe Windows Mobile UI and has the badge all over the phone.

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Sony Ericsson P5i concept
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

The Sefanatics has posted an interesting concept of Sony Ericsson P5i smartphone. The device is rumored to be on its way, however the manufacturer hasn’t made any official confirmation or provided official images. Taking into account (unconfirmed) info on an upcoming user’s interface UIQ (UIQ 4?) with figer control, the concept looks like to be true. It is equipped with a big display and has no keyboard. Most likely the mysterious Sony Ericsson P5i will be of this kind.

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Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 15, 2007, 07:26:09 AM
Nokia N82 Launch Video
http://www.youtube.com/v/e0m2sh-RwuQ&rel

N82 video demostration of the GPS and the camera
http://www.youtube.com/v/0sajiLT0Tfc&rel
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 17, 2007, 09:33:18 AM
who taught that thread would be 11 pages long! back on the subject : i went to the nokia webpage and there is no n82 and i was wondering if the nokia n82 will have good battery life cause my n73 is hard to beat bettery wise!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 17, 2007, 09:50:37 AM
who taught that thread would be 11 pages long! back on the subject :
....and it ain´t over yet.  :D


I went to the nokia webpage and there is no N82 and i was wondering
if the Nokia N82 will have good battery life cause my N73 is hard to beat battery wise!
http://europe.nokia.com/A4646200

But you better invest in a extra battery or two if you´re going to use it as MP3 player,
I got 3 batteries for my N95.....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 18, 2007, 07:56:44 AM
I took a closer look on new HTC Touch model,it got the same specs as HTC Tytn2.
But since the keyboard is gone it´s smaller and lighter,not many phone can rival the specs of this phone.
Clearly the best touch screen phone on the market and the fact that it runs WM6 is a extra pluss for Windows users.

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Preview of UMTS-communicator HTC Touch Cruise
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-touch-cruise-en.shtml

Preface
The “rumor-it-fake-it” game is likely to become HTC’s trump very soon. For this, they have already taken some measures to cut off most leaks from inside the company. Another thing – indexes, and its pretty much tangled indexing system, whose consequences we witnessed with the HTC TyTN II, that got renamed a couple of times, dumping its numeric index and codename in favor of what it is today. Another example in this sense is the recently debuted HTC Touch Dual, that changed its name to the HTC Touch Slide a few days prior to the announcement (naturally, that’s the way it looked for consumers and the vast majority of journalists).

The announcement date of the HTC Polaris got postponed, and even though some info and images of this model were circulating around the Internet, the rumor had it that its design was bound to shape change before it hits the shelves. And let us be honest, after meeting the Polaris in person, we had pretty much similar feelings – it is design is a good example of what is called a “mixed bag”. But first things first.

One little thing of note. We had our mitts on a test sample, that’s why some data and results were omitted from this review, and some were impossible to prove due to a number of reasons. Check back when the communicator arrives on the market for our full battery of tests.

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Positioning

In many ways, the new device is positioned as a successor to one of the most sought-after communicators in the history of Windows Mobile – the HTC P3300 (Artemis).

Let’s start with the name. The HTC Polaris, which was its codename for a while, has a traditional numeric index as well – the P3650. The name it has assumed for the release day, the HTC Touch Cruise, has a couple of explanations to it. The first and the foremost – the company wants to speed up the development of the Touch series. On the tide of the HTC Touch success, they roll out a slider-type model in this range, and then come up with a navigation-savvy communicator.

This way, the target audience for the HTC Touch Cruise gets wider thanks to all users who have little idea of the brand itself, but have already played around or witnessed the HTC Touch in stores or borrowed it from friends. For these consumers, the brand isn’t of prime importance; the only thing that matters is that one of HTC’s models has literally got to them. And probably they can recall its name as well - the Touch. So that’s the thing the company aims to take advantage of. Mind the fact that the new communicator has nothing but a single word added to the original title – the HTC Touch. This “Cruise” suffix is very fitting as far as a navigation-savvy communicator is concerned.

Another reason for this name is more apparent – actually, they realized how important these names were a few months after the debut of the HTC P3300. Back then, over at HTC nobody really cared about codenames, that’s why it came as no surprise that the company’s hottest offering bore a very “recognizable” name – the P3300. Nevertheless, this communicator has always been known as the Artemis, although sold under its numeric index.

The timing in the case of the Cruise is also quite remarkable, for it came out roughly at the same time as the HTC P3300 a year ago. Interestingly, the HTC P3300 itself is still enjoying tidy sales and is not being withdrawn from the market. Perhaps it will be down the road, when the company will have its complete focus on the brand-new solutions. It has been a year since the P3300’s arrival and given that even for 2006 it wasn’t the most cutting-edge device around, a life cycle this long is quite something. In other words, right before the Christmas sales, the P3300’s time is about to run out, and that’s the moment when HTC launches its successor.

The users of the P3300 might well find the newcomer of some interest thanks to a substantial design revamp, refined software and hardware departments. On top of that, the Cruise is very likely to top their short-lists, since the original communicator, the P3300, is getting hopelessly dated these days.

And now, prepare, for we are taking a plunge to see what the HTC Touch Cruise has in stock for us.

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Design

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The side panels as well as the rear are made of soft-touch plastic, thanks to this the Cruise delivers a nice tactile feel. Its spines also feature chrome-like plastic insets, which is so like the P3300, the first device where HTC gave these plates a go.

The front fascia is a flat panel composed of two halves – the one on the top houses the communicator’s display mounted flush to the surroundings. And the bottom panel features the navigation cluster (more on which below).

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While the coating of the display area is transparent, the rest of the Cruise’s face is clad in mirror-like finish. The plastic here feels pretty durable and shouldn’t peel off, but we will reserve our final judgment until later – first sales and feedback will really show that it is made of.

The build quality is not something we can fault HTC for – the Cruise feels very sturdy, all details sit tight to each other.

Size, controls layout

The Cruise’s dimensions are typical of a device running Windows Mobile, but that’s all compliments it’s getting from us. The Touch Cruise is by no means the most pocket-friendly solution around, and in terms of its size ends up behind the P3300, as well as some other offerings:
HTC Touch Cruise – 110 x 58 x 15.5 mm, 130 g
HTC P3300 (Artemis) – 108 x 58 x 16.3 mm, 127 g
Glofiish X600 – 107 x 58 x 14.7 mm, 136 g

It weights a fraction more than the P3300. The Cruise readily slips into just about any pocket, be it your outerwear, jeans or trousers.

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Sitting at the top of the communicator’s face plate is an earpiece flanked by a secondary camera for video calls, which also serves for taking self-shots when you toggle to it while shooting. Inside the earpiece are two LED indicators.

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The one on the left glows in green or yellow notifying you of GSM and UMTS status (green), or new messages (yellow). Also it blinks in red when the battery charge level gets below 5%. The indicator mounted on the right stands for wireless connectivity – if it is blue, then the Cruise’s Bluetooth is currently enabled, green – WiFi, yellow – GPS.

The left-hand spine hosts a dedicated wireless connectivity manager button. Placed right beneath it is a slider-type volume control key with a smallish ridge in the middle allowing you to find it by touch and adjust the volume level every time you are having a call.

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Flipping over to the communicator’s right-hand side, you will find a memory expansion slot. The Cruise supports microSDHC (SD 2.0 standard) cards, meaning that it can easily handle any size available out there. The slot is covered with a flap linked right to the casing. However getting access to this socket is not particularly easy, but if you don’t swap memory cards too often, it is not all that crucial.

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Mounted at the base of this spine is a dedicated camera button, which is pretty stiff and given its surprisingly short travel, you might think there is not auto-focus position for it. But in fact, you need to press it, although with some effort, to make the autofocus kick in and to snap a picture you will need to push it into the casing even deeper.

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The button slightly sticks out from the otherwise flat surface.

The bottom right corner is occupied by a tight stylus silo. The stylus’s handle has a ledge, which you can hook to pull it out of its nest. The stylus itself is a standard HTC’s unit, meaning that it is neither long nor short. So if you have already grown fond of long and thick styluses of some PDA, then the Touch Cruise’s stylus will take some getting used to.

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The communicator’s base houses the ExtUSB socket for charging, data cable connections, as well as headsets or earphones (via a compatible adaptor). Not too far away from it is a microphone and a lanyard eyelet. Next to the microphone sits soft reset button slightly recessed into the casing.

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Controls

The navigation cluster is somewhat reminiscent of that found on the P3300, however, it ditches the innovative HTC RollR, even though the new device management system is quite similar. The scroll wheel has been carried over from the P3300, while the trackball has been replaced with a conventional mechanical key. On the other hand, unlike the P3300, where the scroll wheel only allowed you to page though lists, the one embedded in the Cruise also doubles as a four-way navigation key, so by pressing corresponding directions you can move around its menus. And this is important, since most games couldn’t get along with the P3300 because of its scroll wheel that couldn’t do this simple thing.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/touch-cruise/pic/pic13.jpg)

The scroll wheel as well as the center key slightly protrudes from the casing. The wheel’s surface is made of textured plastic which, in a way, feels like metal. We have no particular complaints about these two controls – they were pretty much a cinch to use. On top of that the scroll wheel won’t go crazy and start spinning on its own, it takes a little effort to turn it around.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/touch-cruise/pic/pic30.jpg)

Flanking the wheel are four buttons, which comes as a surprise for an HTC-branded phone if you remember its previous solutions. The company has omitted two traditional members of this cluster – OK and Start. However, it is not a shocking change, given that the Touch Cruise is positioned as the next step in the series of touchphones, where the original model had no keys on the casing but pick-up/hang-up buttons (HTC Touch).

All these buttons are housed on the lower panel and sit flush with the casing – basically, all you see are their captions, so you might think these are touch-sensitive, but you’ll be wrong. In fact, that’s the way they are designed – when you press one of them, it will feel exactly like a conventional mechanic key.

Right under the display are two dedicated keys for answering and rejecting calls. The row at the base of the cluster features shortcuts to Browser and Navigation app. All keys are evenly lit in light-blue (adequate brightness level makes for less eyestrain while in the dark), but the best thing about its backlighting is how the scroll wheel is illuminated.

Display

(http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/image/htc/touch-cruise/pic/pic38.jpg)

Camera

The communicator comes installed with a 3 Mpix camera (CMOS) with auto-focus, which is the same module as that found in the HTC TyTN II. That’s why it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out these two cameras are totally identical in terms of image quality. To cut a long story short, the HTC Touch Cruise, as far as its camera options, settings and general image quality are concerned, is one of the best Windows Mobile powered communicators around.

The camera interface is similar to those found in the HTC TyTN II and the Touch Dual, down to the viewfinder mode, where you can access a stand-alone menu to make quick alterations to the camera’s essential settings. It is called up with one tap and removed from the display in a similar fashion. All settings are housed in a semi-transparent menu that pops up on the viewfinder’s screen.

The Cruise’s display also rooms all required thumbnails indicating what shooting modes have been activated. The top tow (from left to right) includes: current mode (still image, video, MMS video, sport, panorama, and portrait, multishot) and the number of shots left. All other options are available from the panel at the base of the screen that can be brought up by tapping it:
Current image resolution
White balance
Exposure settings
Storage place (internal memory, memory card)
Currently active camera (main on the rear or the one on the front plate).
Self-time

Video

The Cruise records video in MP4 (codecs: mp4v or h.263) at 30 frames per second. Sound is recorded with the sAMR codec at 128 kbps (sample rate – 8000 Hz, mono)

The following video resolutions are available with the communicator:
CIF – 352x288
High– 320x240
Normal – 176x144
Small – 128x96

Battery life

The Touch Cruise utilizes a 1350 mAh Li-Ion battery, which is the most commonly used unit among the today’s communicators.

The Cruise has a rated battery life of 400 hours of standby and up to 7 hours of talk time.

We will give this device’s cell a good run-through as soon as it starts shipping.

Performance

The HTC Touch Cruise is powered by the Qualcomm MSM 7200, just like the HTC TyTN II and the Touch Dual. Learn more about this platform in our thorough review of the HTC TyTN II.
The Touch Cruise’s CPU runs at 400 MHz. The communicator ships with 128 Mb of RAM, out of which around 100 Mb is available for applications and OS needs, though the system files occupy around 40 Mb of this volume, so you are down to roughly 60 Mb – this should be enough to allow for ten and more applications to run simultaneously on the Touch Cruise. The storage space that the user can manage makes 125 Mb, so you should experience no shortage in this department when it comes to installation of the most helpful and essential applications. And the rest can be thrown onto the memory card.

Connectivity

The handset seamlessly taps into GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and UMTS (850, 1900, 2100) networks. Both EDGE and HSDPA high speed data protocols are supported by the Touch Cruise. Its wireless connectivity options include Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. For PC synchronization and data transfer purposes you can use the miniUSB cable shipping with the handset, apart from its Bluetooth wireless connectivity. The Cruise employs USB 2.0 standard, whose speed, in theory, tops out at 480 Mbit/s, however in real life we copied a 10 Mb file onto the Cruise over USB in 9-10 seconds.

For managing all wireless interfaces, the Touch Cruise utilizes an application from HTC’s suite of apps – Comm Manager.

The communicator also comes with Bluetooth 2.0+EDR module and already-standard Microsoft’s drivers. Below is a rundown on the profiles available with the Touch Cruise and their purposes:
Generic Access Profile (GAP). Provides the basis for all other profiles.
Serial Port Profile (SPP). Emulates COM-connection of devices. Used mainly for synchronization with desktop PC, coupling external Bluetooth-gadgets, like Bluetooth GPS-receiver.
Object Push Profile (OPP). A basic profile for sending "objects" such as pictures, virtual business cards, or appointment details.
Hands-Free Profile (HFP). Connection of Bluetooth-headset and handsfree device.
Headset Profile (HSP). The most commonly used profile, providing support for the popular Bluetooth Headsets to be used with mobile phones.
Human Interface Device Profile (HID). Connection of Bluetooth-keyboard.
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP). Sound transfer via Bluetooth.
Audio Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP). Music playback management via wireless headset.
Personal Area Network Profile (PAN). Network connection via Bluetooth, use for connection of a desktop PC to Internet through the communicator, replaces Dual-Up Networking profile..
SIM Access Profile (SAP). Allows connecting to a SIM card in a phone with Bluetooth, so the car phone itself doesn't require a separate SIM card.
File Transfer Profile (FPT)/ File Transfer Profile (FTP). Provides access to the file system on another device. This includes support for getting folder listings, changing to different folders, getting files, putting files and deleting files.

Handling a stereo-headset was very easy with the Touch Cruise – we had no problems pairing it with the device, nor did we experience any delays in sound or improper operation of controls. The sonic experience delivered by the communicator is pretty much fine, but if you are into music, wireless earphones may not be the best way to go.


GPS

Like all other components of the communicator, its navigation department builds upon the Qualcomm’s platform. The Touch Cruise’s navigator employs the gpsOne technology – in a word, this is a Qualcomm’s development, comprising a couple of tracking systems. In sum, there are four methods under its belt – satellites and three data processing systems (via your carrier’s network) The simplest of them serves for adjusting the satellite’s data, the second stands for data update and the third – full fledged data reception via the carrier’s network. MS (mobile station)-Based, MS-Assisted and MS-Assisted/Hybrid respectively.

However our focus here is the conventional navigation method – via satellites. To back up our words with some figures, we put the navigation front of the HTC Touch Cruise with its Qualcomm solution up against one of the market’s best navigation savvy solutions – the Mitac Mio A501 running on the SiRF Star III.

The Touch Cruise’s cold start time makes roughly a minute, after that, all next launches take less than 20 seconds.

Now on to the Touch Cruise’s positioning accuracy.

Impressions

The Touch Cruise does well on the reception front. The communicator comes with polyphony, however since a multitude of audio formats may be employed for ring tones, having it onboard is not vital at all. The volume of call alerts is average, which still proves sufficient to make ring tones audible in typical environments. Also, during our calls, we had no complaints about how loud the other party sounded, even when we were on a busy street or in a bus.

When the communicator starts shipping in Russia, it will go for around 700-800 USD, which is steeper than most thumbboard-less Windows Mobile solutions out there. New Gigabyte- and E-Ten branded solutions very rarely break the watermark of 700 USD. So if you face it off against other offerings currently available on the market, the HTC Touch Cruise won’t be a clear winner, and it is not the most technologically talented communicator around either. But that’s where other factors come into play.

First off, remember the first months of the HTC P3300’s sales, pre-Christmas and post-Christmas seasons – it never had a really bad downswing, even with its not exactly adequate price tag when it only debuted, and even these days. And in spite of that, people have been falling for it, actually a lot of people, generating some truly stellar sales for the market of Windows Mobile. What is the reason? In many respects, it was a run-of-the-mill solution, and HTC wasn’t trying to make a “do-it-all” solution or a mobile powerhouse of the P3300. Back when the company rolled out the P3300, they had a clear-cut strategy in mind, and this communicator has shown that the path they picked is, if not optimal, by far not the worst out there.

For many the P3300 was a handset and a navigator above all other things, and only then – a communicator, which is not something we have used to see with devices running Windows Mobile. The fact is most owners of these devices do know that they are using a Windows Mobile based solution. This paradigm got cracked with the P3300, and by establishing its Touch series, HTC is set to disrupt it for good. And that’s the standpoint you should apply when judging the Touch Cruise.

The HTC Touch Cruise is a style-conscious phone with touch-sensitive controls and some navigation-related smarts in the first place. Most of its users or let’s say potential users, won’t be pondering over its price/quality ratio, CPU speed or display resolution. Even though all these aspects are pretty decent here, especially keeping in mind that the QVGA resolution is available only with top-of-the-line models on the phone market.

The HTC P3300’s successor has turned out to be a pretty offering, despite its questionable design and a hefty price tag. The company is following the path it picked long ago, and makes everything possible to move towards the mass market with care and persistence.

The HTC Touch Cruise combines the abilities of Qualcomm’s new platform – pretty decent speed in menu and applications for navigation, potent camera and a tidy menu interface that can be managed with your fingers alone. As for its price, the Cruise is pretty much overrated, but will this mar its sales? Probably not.

Specifications:

Type: communicator
Form-factor: side-slider with screen tilting mechanism
Position in the range: above HTC P3300
Rivals: Glofiish X600, Mio A501
Materials used: plastic, soft-touch finish
Operating system: Windows Mobile 6 Professional
CPU: 400 Mhz based on the Qualcomm MSM7200
RAM: 128 Mb (100 Mb available to the user)
ROM: 256 Mb, 125 Mb available to the user
Connectivity: microSDHC (SDIO, any size), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR (A2DP), USB 2.0 for synchronization/charging, Wi-Fi (IEEE802.11b/g), proprietary headset socket, external GPS antenna slot
Display: TFT 2.8” (active area - 43.2x57.6 mm), 240x320-pixel resolution , 65 K colors, adjustable backlighting brightness (1 to 10 scale)
Extras: bundled Qualcomm (gpsOne) based GPS, FM-radio
Battery: detachable 1350 mAh Li-Ion (pol) unit
Dimensions: 110x58x15.5 mm
Weight: 130 g (battery included)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 18, 2007, 01:49:41 PM
htc has the cell phone game on lock!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 18, 2007, 02:49:37 PM
htc has the cell phone game on lock!

Quote
Thursday 15 November 2007 One million HTC Touch smartphones sold in five months
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml#16641
(http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/htc/htc-touch/htc-touch.jpg)

HTC has reported that HTC Touch sales exceeded one million mark at the end of October. Five months have passed since the market release in June. The company expects that total sales of the HTC Touch lineup, including HTC Touch Dual and Touch Color, will reach 1.5-1.8 million units by the end of 2007. Besides the company has recently unveiled another model of the lineup – HTC Touch Cruise.

Peter Chou, HTC CEO, marked that next year the company expects the revenues to grow 20% in 2008 compared to 11 million devices, supposedly sold by the end of 2007. Probably the launch of Android devices will add much to it.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 18, 2007, 11:31:22 PM
NEWS;

Quote
Great news for game lovers - Lenovo i909 NES gaming phone with D-pad
http://www.cellphonebeat.com/entry/lenovo-i909-nes-gaming-phone-with-d-pad-great-news-for-game-lovers/
(http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2007/11/17/lenovo-i909-gaming-phone_7767.jpg)(http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2007/11/17/lenovo-i909-gaming-phone_7767.jpg)

Have a look at this new i909 NES gaming phone from Lenovo. This gaming phone has a D-Pad controller that allows us to play NES games on it.

Lenovo i909 is a well designed handset with following specifications:

1) 2.4″ 262K color QVGA TFT display,

2) 2 megapixel camera.

3) MicroSD memory card slot,

4) Mp3 and video player.

5) Dimensions: 111.4 × 50.2 × 15.5 mm.

6) Weight: 112.8 grams.

However, the people of china got the cake this time as Lenovo i909 NES gaming phone with D-pad is going to be available only in China for now. Let’s hope something of this kind comes to our hand too.


Quote
Philips Xenium 9@9k – battery life record
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

According to some Internet source, another Philips Xenium is about to be launched – the 9@9k. This handset stands out for a record long battery life on a single charge – about two months standby and 17 hours talk time. Other specs remain quite standard, even simple.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Philips%20Xenium%2099k1.jpg)

The device features GSM/GPRS (900/1800/1900 MHz) networks, a 1.8 240x320x65K color display, a VGA-camera, a microSD-slot, an FM-radio and Bluetooth interface. It measures 108x48x14 mm.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Philips%20Xenium%2099k2.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Philips%20Xenium%2099k3.jpg)


^^^^^^
Damn the battery lasts for over two months  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 19, 2007, 07:31:02 AM
NEWS;

Nes emulators for Symbian and iPhone....
Didn´t see anything for Windows Mobile,
but there´s a JAVA application that I have posted a link for in a previous post that works on ALL phones,exept iPhone.
I have not tried this myself but I know EJ Rizo have installed it on his iPhone.
For those of you that got N93,N95 or getting the upcoming N82,you can plug the phone your TV and use your phone as a joystick.

Quote
iNES NES/Famicom emulator ported to Symbian UIQ 3 Phones
http://www.intomobile.com/

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/ines.gif)

Symbian UIQ3 based smartphone owners, here’s some good news for you.
Now you will be able to enjoy all the NES games “back from the days” and revive the memories from your childhood.
Earlier, we saw other platforms (S60 , iPhone, etc) getting their share of the NES action and finally the wait is over.
So far, iNES http://fms.komkon.org/iNES/ has been only tested on the Motorola Z8 and we’re still not sure whether it will work on Sony Ericsson smartphones.
But even if it doesn’t work, I guess it’s safe to bet we’ll see the new version supporting UIQ’s touchscreen-based user interface in the near future.
Anyway, iNES emulates NES, Famicom, Dandy, Famicom DiskSystem, and various Nintendo and third party add-ons for iNES,
and you can either trial it for free or grab the full version for only $14.99.
---


Quote
iNES 3.2 S60 3rd Edition released

NES for Symbian S60 3rd edition
http://fms.komkon.org/EmuSymbian/#iNES/
devices allows you to play good ol’ Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) and Famicom cartridge games. In order for iNES to work, files with “.nes”, “.nes.gz”, “.fds” and “.fds.gz” extensions should be placed in “E:\Others\iNES” directory.

The new version fixes a few bugs in the sound chip emulation, adds the “draw all sprites” option to avoid the authentic but annoying sprite flicker, extends the built-in configuration menu, optimizes Symbian audio and video rendering, and adds saved preferences on Symbian.

(http://fms.komkon.org/EmuSymbian/snaps/fMSX/Undeadline.gif)

Full version of iNES-Symbian costs only $14.99, and gives you tons of fun. A free trial is available.


Quote
The Apple iPhone is now a Nintendo Entertainment System - native NES emulator for iPhone
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/07/the-apple-iphone-is-now-a-nintendo-entertainment-system-native-nes-emulator-for-iphone.html

We now have natively installed iPhone gaming applications,
exactly like we wanted!
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/04/first-third-party-native-iphone-application-developed-mobile-terminal.html
Google Code
http://code.google.com/p/iphonenes/
is hosting the iPhone NES emulation software,
iPhoneNES.
http://code.google.com/p/iphonenes/
The application is not some web-app game that has been optimized for the iPhone - this is a native application brought to us by
stepwhite.
http://code.google.com/u/stepwhite/
That means you don’t need a wireless connection to access some web-app, you can get your NES gaming fix in your mother’s basement underground bunker.

iPhone NES is based on the open-source
InfoNES core
http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley/5604/infones/
and will only play NES ROMs formatted with an iNES header.

iPhone hacker extraordinaire NerveGas (link dead) has optimized stepwhite’s software to run faster - the optimized version is also available for download through
Google Code.
http://code.google.com/p/iphonenes/

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/iphone-nes-emulator.jpg)

Download the applications at
Google Code,
http://code.google.com/p/iphonenes/

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 19, 2007, 07:18:22 PM
does the n.e.s. emu works for my n73?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 19, 2007, 09:02:11 PM
does the n.e.s. emu works for my n73?

yes,Symbian S60 works.
I don't play that much games,so you're the one that have to test this one out and post a "review". ;-)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 25, 2007, 11:01:44 AM
does the n.e.s. emu works for my n73?

yes,Symbian S60 works.
I don't play that much games,so you're the one that have to test this one out and post a "review". ;-)

nice! no problem! i'll test that out and post a review!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 02:28:42 PM
i just tried it all nes,gb,gba,ms,gg and they all work fine the only problem is that i tried the trial ( i dont wanna buy them  :D ) and there is 5 red rectangle on the screen (it says : buy me) i will try to find the whole version for free
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 02:40:10 PM
is there any place that i can download the whole version for free? that would be great i dont wanna pay for this!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 26, 2007, 02:56:10 PM
is there any place that i can download the whole version for free? that would be great i dont wanna pay for this!

I guess the best place to look for links and what not for Symbian is on;
http://my-symbian.com/main/index.php

How much is the games?
Bought a 6GB memory card the other day,I couldn´t find any 8GB cards.. >:(
I´ll fill it with new music today... ;)

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 02:59:51 PM
the games are free,you use normal roms
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 26, 2007, 05:38:03 PM
the games are free,you use normal roms

Didn´t you just ask for;

i just tried it all nes,gb,gba,ms,gg and they all work fine the only problem is that
I tried the trial ( i dont wanna buy them  :D ) and there is 5 red rectangle on the screen (it says : buy me) i will try to find the whole version for free

is there any place that I can download the whole version for free? that would be great i dont wanna pay for this!

?  ?  ?

Anyways you know that you can hook the phone up to the TV and use the phone as a joystick?
so this means you can games and movies and hook them up where ever you go.  :laugh:

TV Out 2: Using the Nokia N95 as a games console
http://www.youtube.com/v/hWek4jmkYnQ&rel

TV Out 1: How to turn your Nokia N95 into a desktop computer
http://www.youtube.com/v/bbU35ybA3Ow&rel

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 26, 2007, 06:04:54 PM
i need a pda with a slide out qwerty keypad

leaning towards the htc tytn II

any alternative i should look at before buying?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 06:25:12 PM
the games are free,you use normal roms

Didn´t you just ask for;

i just tried it all nes,gb,gba,ms,gg and they all work fine the only problem is that
I tried the trial ( i dont wanna buy them  :D ) and there is 5 red rectangle on the screen (it says : buy me) i will try to find the whole version for free

is there any place that I can download the whole version for free? that would be great i dont wanna pay for this!

?  ?  ?

Anyways you know that you can hook the phone up to the TV and use the phone as a joystick?
so this means you can games and movies and hook them up where ever you go.  :laugh:

TV Out 2: Using the Nokia N95 as a games console
http://www.youtube.com/v/hWek4jmkYnQ&rel

TV Out 1: How to turn your Nokia N95 into a desktop computer
http://www.youtube.com/v/bbU35ybA3Ow&rel



the games are free but not the emulators  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 26, 2007, 06:35:58 PM
the games are free,you use normal roms

Didn´t you just ask for;

i just tried it all nes,gb,gba,ms,gg and they all work fine the only problem is that
I tried the trial ( i dont wanna buy them  :D ) and there is 5 red rectangle on the screen (it says : buy me) i will try to find the whole version for free

is there any place that I can download the whole version for free? that would be great i dont wanna pay for this!

?  ?  ?

Anyways you know that you can hook the phone up to the TV and use the phone as a joystick?
so this means you can games and movies and hook them up where ever you go.  :laugh:

TV Out 2: Using the Nokia N95 as a games console
http://www.youtube.com/v/hWek4jmkYnQ&rel

TV Out 1: How to turn your Nokia N95 into a desktop computer
http://www.youtube.com/v/bbU35ybA3Ow&rel



the games are free but not the emulators  ;)

Ok,now I see  :laugh:
Got it a little twisted,you should find the emulators on the;
http://my-symbian.com/main/index.php board
do a little search on their forum.  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 26, 2007, 06:40:12 PM
i need a pda with a slide out qwerty keypad

leaning towards the htc tytn II

any alternative i should look at before buying?

Nokia E90 is the closest at the moment,but it´s not a slide out phone;
(http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b146173.jpg)

You will fill find reviews and what not for both phones if you go back a couple of pages....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 06:46:30 PM
thx for the advice!!! ill go check the forum 8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on November 26, 2007, 08:36:22 PM
can't find nothing at all!!! im gonna continue searching till i find something!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 26, 2007, 08:49:18 PM
can't find nothing at all!!! im gonna continue searching till i find something!

This is the only forum I'm on,I just figured that had to be the spot. Maybe try the forums on www.esato.com , www.mobile-review.com and www.intomobile.com ?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 26, 2007, 09:01:04 PM
fuck I have by mistake deleted some important files on my phone,so now non of my applications will start up.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 27, 2007, 08:55:49 AM
i need a pda with a slide out qwerty keypad

leaning towards the htc tytn II

any alternative i should look at before buying?

Nokia E90 is the closest at the moment,but it´s not a slide out phone;
(http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b146173.jpg)

You will fill find reviews and what not for both phones if you go back a couple of pages....

thanks but that phone is ugly to me lol

yea i read the tytn II review in this thread, it sounds like a good choice but its quite expensive so i figured id look at alternatives first

if it is windows mobile, and has a slide out full keypad...thats basically all im looking for so ill look at cheaper options before making a decision
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 27, 2007, 10:03:50 AM
HTC S710 & HTC S730

are what im looking at now, only half the price of the tytn II

although the screen seems like it may be too small for when browsing the web?

S710
(http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/s710.jpg)


S730
(http://www.easydevices.co.uk/images/large_htc_s730.jpg)

Any input guys?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 27, 2007, 10:56:37 AM
HTC S710 & HTC S730
are what im looking at now, only half the price of the tytn II
although the screen seems like it may be too small for when browsing the web?
S710
(http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/s710.jpg)
S730
(http://www.easydevices.co.uk/images/large_htc_s730.jpg)
Any input guys?


Both phones is dope,it´s more about what specs you need?
How about looking at HTC Tytn "1"?
http://www.htc.com/product/03-products-1.htm
(http://www.error500.net/images/articulos/htc-tytn.jpg)

I´m sure the price has dropped,since HTC Tytn 2 has hit the market.
It don´t have a build in GPS antenna and has "only"  ;) 2MP camera,other than that it´s pretty much the same phone.
So if you got a tight budget,I would look at HTC Tytn "1".
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 27, 2007, 11:40:51 AM
i wanted the tytn originally but its really not that much cheaper than the tytn II which caused me to change focus

its ridiculously overpriced for the outdated model it is

I need these features :

windows mobile
wireless card
slide out qwerty keypad
reasonable price (Unlocked)
Good long lasting battery...i want to be able to browse the net and stay logged in aim without the battery dying after an hour


the tytn and tytn II model seem to be quite large, which would be a pain carrying around

any other brands i should be looking at for these features? or do htc have it on lock?


thanks for the help
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: BuddenzNasir on November 27, 2007, 11:53:52 AM
i did an article for a tech/gadgets site and they had me review the iPhone. OVERATED POS. nothing special. I'm happy with my Helio Ocean.....way less money for more.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 27, 2007, 02:12:40 PM
i wanted the tytn originally but its really not that much cheaper than the tytn II which caused me to change focus

its ridiculously overpriced for the outdated model it is

I need these features :

windows mobile
wireless card
slide out qwerty keypad
reasonable price (Unlocked)
Good long lasting battery...i want to be able to browse the net and stay logged in aim without the battery dying after an hour
the tytn and tytn II model seem to be quite large, which would be a pain carrying around
any other brands i should be looking at for these features? or do htc have it on lock?
thanks for the help

Well many questions to be answered  ;)
-Let´s start with the size,Tytn 2 is smaller than the original.
Of course it´s bigger than "normal" phones,but it feels sleek when you hold it in your hand.
But since it´s out of your price range,we´ll forget about that one for now.
-HTC got long lasting batteries,so no worry´s there.
-HTC actually produce phones under many names,like AT&T call the Tytn; Tilt,and they will produce a phone for SonyEricsson next year.
-You can look at some imate´s models,I don´t know their models to well. So not sure what model that equals HTC Tytn.
http://www.imate.com/default.aspx?skinid=1

Ultimate 9502 looks nice,seems to be one that equals Tytn
(http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2007/10/i-mate-9502-hands-on_468.jpg)
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2007/10/imate_9502_handson.html

Glofiish M800 another one that equals Tytn
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Glofiish%20M8002.jpg)
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/November/16_eng.shtml

ASUS,HP and XDA also makes Windows phone,don´t really know them to well either....
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/November/14_eng.shtml
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/November/07_eng.shtml
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/2007/November/06_eng.shtml


So my advice would be take a look at all these brands,they all use Windows
so it´s more about you finding the right price with the specs you´re looking for.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 27, 2007, 02:57:37 PM
that i-mate looks great, reminds me of the side kick

just checked the price on the 2 phones u posted pics of they run for 600-800. thats probably too much for me but those phones do look great. i dont know what it is about these phones but add a slide out qwerty keypad and they cost 2-300 more lol its crazy these damn things are too expensive!

gonna go through the rest of the links and read up. Thanks!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 27, 2007, 03:34:16 PM
that i-mate looks great, reminds me of the side kick

just checked the price on the 2 phones u posted pics of they run for 600-800. thats probably too much for me but those phones do look great. i dont know what it is about these phones but add a slide out qwerty keypad and they cost 2-300 more lol its crazy these damn things are too expensive!

gonna go through the rest of the links and read up. Thanks!

True,if you go for HTC Touch Cruise which got the same spects as HTC Tytn 2,but without slide you can save 200-300.
Try to look for one that equals the first TytN in those other brands,
usually there´s a price drop for models that has been on the market for a year or two.
Anyway good luck....  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on November 27, 2007, 06:43:09 PM
sorry but its all about the HTC TyTN II if you want a device with a slide out keyboard. The S710 is cool but personally i think the screen is too small and I like having a touch screen too much...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 28, 2007, 05:29:02 AM
I agree with Matty,TytN 2 is a superior phone. Maybe go as far as saying it´s the "best" phone at the market right now.
But your budget is tight so if you don´t find a phone in those other brands that equals the TytN for a better price,
I would go for the HTC 730 that you looked at.
I had a friend that had a QTEK 8300
(http://www.mobiles-actus.com/photos/telephone/205x268/qtek-8300-1.jpg)

He was pissed about the slow processor (200 MHz),the same that in HTC 710.
HTC 730 has a upgraded processor (400 MHz),this will come handy when you´re multi tasking,
something I´m pretty sure you will do a lot.  ;)

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HTC 710
(http://www.htc.com/product/PRODUCTS_IMAGES/s710_141x228.jpg)
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_s710.htm
Processor
TI's OMAP™ 850, 201 MHz

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HTC 730
(http://www.htc.com/product/PRODUCTS_IMAGES/s730_141x228.jpg)
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_s730.htm
Processor
Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 28, 2007, 08:07:54 AM
sorry but its all about the HTC TyTN II if you want a device with a slide out keyboard. The S710 is cool but personally i think the screen is too small and I like having a touch screen too much...

personally i dont think id ever use or even want to use the touch screen feature

but like you said that screen does look small.

the htc tytn would probably have way more features and capability than i even need but 500 euros for that? kind of pricey. that would be like buying a ps2 for 150 less than the ps3 price...

this is such a headache lol
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 28, 2007, 08:53:25 AM
sorry but its all about the HTC TyTN II if you want a device with a slide out keyboard. The S710 is cool but personally i think the screen is too small and I like having a touch screen too much...

personally i dont think id ever use or even want to use the touch screen feature
but like you said that screen does look small.
the htc tytn would probably have way more features and capability than i even need but 500 euros for that? kind of pricey. that would be like buying a ps2 for 150 less than the ps3 price...
this is such a headache lol

Then it´s a no brainer,if you ain´t going to use the touch screen anyway.
The "business" applications that comes with WM6 pro,might be over your head,so you´re paying for something you don´t need.
So if you run down your options it comes down it comes to this;
-OS
HTC Tytn 2 WM 6 pro
HTC S730  WM 6 standard
-Camera;
HTC TytN 2 3,2 MPX autofocus
HTC S730     2 MPX not sure if it got autofocus,but that´s important feature if you want to take good flicks.
-GPS
HTC TytN 2   Yes,internal
HTC S730     Yes,internal

So basicilly if you don´t need a "good" camera (2MPX ain´t bad,but...)
and your budget is tight go for HTC S730,the screen ain´t that small.
If you have never used a touch screen or a smart phone before,it might be easier for you to get into to the WM standard UI.
I know Matty can back me on this;
a lot of people that convert from a "normal" phone over to a
PRO smart phone like WM pro and Symbian UIQ (the "business" versions) have problems,
so they go and bug people like Matty that works for Vodafone or a cell phone "nerd"  :laugh: like me to help them out.

htc-s730 gps enable
http://www.youtube.com/v/dCwEvmY3LSA&rel

HTC S730 Demonstration by eXpansys
http://www.youtube.com/v/-zSY9YC2uWQ&rel

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on November 28, 2007, 09:37:55 AM
good point, i was just looking through expansys website

noticed the E-TEN glofiish M700 is actually cheaper than the HTC S730

i have no clue about these new phones, i have had the same phone since about 2003 and its not really working too much anymore lol so i appreciate all the help
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on November 28, 2007, 10:53:26 AM
Good point, i was just looking through expansys website
Noticed the E-TEN Glofish M700 is actually cheaper than the HTC S730
I have no clue about these new phones, i have had the same phone since about 2003 and its not really working too much anymore lol so i appreciate all the help

I don´t know the E-Ten model to well,but by looking at specs it should be a dope phone.
I believe both expansys and mobile-review have a review of it,so check them.
But after checking up on the HTC S730,I must say that it´s a dope phone.
I have not seen it live yet,but I have played with HTC S710 for a minute and that´s pretty much the same phone.
The only thing that´s negative in my opinion is the camera....

You can read about the Windows Mobile OS here;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_mobile
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 01, 2007, 07:48:50 AM
im still searching for a free ines but cant find one  :boohoo:
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: eS El Duque on December 01, 2007, 08:41:27 AM
what's the best phone out there that has...

Good Camera, Good Vid record, Wifi, Bluetooth?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 01, 2007, 05:05:46 PM
im still searching for a free ines but cant find one  :boohoo:

What? To tell you the truth this is the only board I frequent,I subscribe to esato feeds that´s it....
Anyway,I was sure those "nerds" could help you,if they can´t help you I don´t know what to do.....,  ;) ;) ;) ;) :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 01, 2007, 05:25:48 PM
what's the best phone out there that has...

Good Camera, Good Vid record, Wifi, Bluetooth?


Simple answer N95,N82,HTC TyTn 2,HTC Touch Cruise,SonyEricsson W960 and Sony Ericsson K850.....(SE K850 don´t have Wifi)
Take your pick,read the reviews,check out the videos in this thread,all the phones is dope in one way or a another
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on December 01, 2007, 09:06:17 PM
whats the vid record like on the HTC tytn 2? the N95 has the video recording on lockdown really, real shame there isn't a xenon flash for stills like on the sony models...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 03, 2007, 09:12:59 AM
whats the vid record like on the HTC tytn 2?
The N95 has the video recording on lockdown really, real shame there isn't a xenon flash for stills like on the sony models...

Good question,there´s no info on their site.
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_tytn_II.htm
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 10, 2007, 09:53:07 AM
Quote
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/psp.jpg)
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-sony-ericsson-psp-phone-concept.html
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 11, 2007, 07:07:56 PM
psp phone? damn! is it gonna use umd? it's look to cool to be true lol but a phone like this would be awsome! a REAL game phone.
N-Gage was a good idea but the product was  :tosser:
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 12, 2007, 09:00:12 AM
December 2007 News

Not so much going on in the cell phone world. I guess we got to wait until next year before they announce new models.  :-\

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TryPhone allows you to test-drive handsets before buying them
http://www.intomobile.com/
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/tryphone-234.jpg)

If you’re shopping for a new mobile phone,
you’ll certainly like the new service called TryPhone. http://www.tryphone.com/
As you can guess from the name, it allows you to test-drive a mobile phone before actually buying one.
In addition, you can read the official specs as well as other people’s reviews about each of the devices presented.

The bad thing about TryPhone, is that at the moment they only allow you to try four devices,
including Samsung Juke (carried by Verizon), LG Muziq (Spring), BlackBerry Pearl (T-Mobile and others) and Apple iPhone (AT&T).
It seems they’ve focused on the bestsellers for a start,
but it’s kinda safe to presume we’ll see them announcing support for more phones in the near future…

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iPhone Playstation emulator coming soon!
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/

Forget about GameBoy and NES emulators — your iPhone can do much more.
Apparently, soon we’ll have the full Sony Playstation emulator available for both the iPhone and iPhone Touch.

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/snap_033252.jpg)

The developer “zodttd” is working on the software called PSX4iPhone, and according to him users could expect that up to 75% of the original games work with the emulator. In addition, he’s saying the application will support the memory card, but warns there’s still work to be done regarding the saved states…

Interested? Sure you are! It’s still not available for the non-developers, but a public beta should hit its website anytime soon…

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Sony Ericsson PSPhone spotted in Stuff Magazine?
http://www.intomobile.com/page/2/
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/psp-phone.jpg)

Paul Sinclair from PSP World http://www.pspworld.com/sony-psp/news/sony-ericsson-psp-phone-could-it-really-be-007959.php
says that he has noticed Sony Ericsson PSPhone ad or article in UK’s Stuff magazine.
According to the image above which we took from a YouTube video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf1Z3vJPKPc
Sony Ericsson agrees with our stand that their upcoming gaming phone should have a dual-sliding form factor.
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/12/10/sony-ericsson-psp-phone-should-be-the-dual-sliding-device.html
Still, we’ve no any confirmation from the Swedish-Japanese handset maker whether this is a real deal or yet another Photoshop rendering. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for the former…

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 12, 2007, 09:03:39 AM
Quote
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/psp.jpg)
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-sony-ericsson-psp-phone-concept.html

psp phone? damn! is it gonna use umd?
it's look to cool to be true lol but a phone like this would be awsome!
a REAL game phone.
N-Gage was a good idea but the product was  :tosser:


What´s umd?
I´m not really into games,,,  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 12, 2007, 09:04:57 AM
damn! i hope it's true cause i know a shitload of ppl who is gonna buy that phone!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 12, 2007, 09:07:26 AM
umd : universal media disc (http://www.mygadgetbag.com/Portals/0/storyimages/UMD.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 12, 2007, 09:01:58 PM
umd : universal media disc (http://www.mygadgetbag.com/Portals/0/storyimages/UMD.jpg)

oh ok,that's how the games & movies comes right? it will probably support that if it's PSP phone,don't you think?
Just got a message from a friend,said he got a N82 from Nokia and asked if I was interested. I got to dish out 700$. BTW is it out in retail yet?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 12, 2007, 09:29:31 PM
i dont know if the n82 hit retail yet,i didnt see that shit yet but maybe it did
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 14, 2007, 10:09:11 PM
Call me stupid but I just dished out 700$ to get a N82,yes Tony I got it. I'll write a little review in a couple of days.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 15, 2007, 09:37:58 AM
nice! waiting for your review!!! do you like the phone? do you like the buttons?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 19, 2007, 10:47:09 AM
did you get your phone yet? get back to me!!  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 19, 2007, 01:38:45 PM
Yep,I told you that I picked it up. I figure you're asking because you want it for X-Mas? So I will do a QUICK review.
Negative;
-The keys is bad,but not so bad that you can't get used to them.
-feels and looks a little cheap.
Positive;
-Symbian has done some nice tweaks in the UI.
Not sure if it has hit retail yet,my phone came with AT&T settings so if it has hit retail they should have it.
Overall I think it's a great phone... so yes go for it.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 19, 2007, 04:23:40 PM
thx for the small review!!! now i need to buy one!  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 19, 2007, 05:27:13 PM
thx for the small review!!! now i need to buy one!  8)

I believe www.intomobile.com posted a link to a online store where you can order it.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on December 22, 2007, 10:08:09 AM
1 thing i forgot to ask is : is the battery life better on the n82 or n95?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Mackin on December 22, 2007, 12:19:50 PM
i know i'm late..
But how much will an Iphone cost in Europe???
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 22, 2007, 03:08:09 PM
1 thing i forgot to ask is:
is the battery life better on the n82 than n95?

yes,but I suggest you invest in extra battery or two,I know I will.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Ozir on December 22, 2007, 03:32:56 PM
i know i'm late..
But how much will an Iphone cost in Europe???


UK
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore?node=home/shop_iphone/family/iphone

France
http://iphone.orange.fr/

Germany
http://www.t-mobile.de/iphone/
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 22, 2007, 05:02:04 PM
News

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MetroPCS offers Samsung R410 QWERTY-handset
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Samsung%20R410.jpg)

The American operator MetroPCS has launched Samsung R410 mobile phone. The company’s site has posted some info about it. This is a side slider with two keyboards: a numeric and a QWERTY. The latter is highly appropriate for SMS-messaging. Taking into account the rest features we have a simple phone – a VGA camera and Bluetooth support. Samsung R410 is listed for $199 and available in Red and Black colors.

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Details on Sony Ericsson Z660i clamshell
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Sony%20Ericsson%20Z660ilf.jpg)

We’ve recently mentioned that Sony Ericsson is rumored to prepare an ultra slim clamshell Z660i. In addition the source shared a possible design. Now we have more details about the new product. Firstly, the “live” picture is very like the image. Secondly, Sony Ericsson Z660i is based on A200 platform, supports 3G networks (HSDPA included), a 2-megapixel camera and an FM-radio. These are preliminary details, the company hasn’t yet made an official confirmation.


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Motorola Z12 handset with Kodak 5-megapixel camera
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/X%20PIXL%20Z12.jpg)

The Chinese-language IT168 has posted a picture of a new Motorola’s mobile phone with a 5-megapixel camera by Kodak. According to the source, this is a slider called X PIXL Z12. The new model has been already mentioned as a part of Motorola 2008 roadmap. The company has really reamed up with Kodak to add a 5-megapixel camera with xenon flash. We don’t know for sure whether the photo was true or it was just a presentation based image. At least, we have a slight imagination of Motorola Z12 phone.

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SKY IM-S300 romantic handset
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

Pantech has introduced its Romantic Wave Slim Phone (SKY IM-S300) in Korea. Its design features smooth curve lines. The device is packed in a slider form-factor with the numeric keyboard, equipped with a 2.2” display, a 1.3-megapixel camera, an integrated MP3-player and e-dictionary. SKY IM-S300 is already available in Korea at 400000 Won (about €297).

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/IM-S3001.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/IM-S3002.jpg)

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Early live pics of Nokia N96 smartphone
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

At our English-language forum you can see live pics of a new Nokia smartphone marked N96. It looks like Nokia N81, though the form is close to Nokia N95: the numeric keyboard sliding from the bottom and the panel sliding from the top (it is empty on the photo, so we don’t know its destination, probably it carries sensor media player buttons). Taking into account the pictures, Nokia N96 is powered by S60 3rd Edition FP2 (Symbian OS 9.5), the platform hasn’t been announced yet. The rear panel hides a 5-megapixel camera with Carl Zeiss lens and dual LED flash. The source hasn’t provided more details about the specs or the release date.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N961.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N962.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N963.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N964.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N966.jpg)
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N967.jpg)


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mobile phone offers nes emulation, mystery windows key
http://technabob.com/blog/2007/12/19/mobile-phone-offers-nes-emulation-mystery-windows-key/

Here’s a suspicious looking mobile phone from China that manages to infringe on at least a couple of prominent brands in one feature-packed device.

(http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ztc_8898_mobile_photo.jpg)

When opened up, the ZTC 8898 mobile not only looks mimics of the looks of HTC’s QWERTY phones, it claims to “simulate” 8-bit NES games too. If that’s not enough potential copyright violation, there’s mysterious Windows and Internet Explorer logos on the keyboard.

(http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ztc_8898_mobile_photo2.jpg)

The jam-packed GSM/GPRS phone has two color LCD displays (and at least the one on the outside has a touchscreen), bluetooth connectivity and has dual SIM card slots too. In addition it offers audio and video media players, e-mail and internet connectivity. In keeping with the kitchen sink feature list, there’s also a 1.3 megapixel camera and six pint-sized speakers built in.

If you’re willing to take a gamble, the whole package is available from DealExtreme for $189 USD.


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Let's Get Down on December 22, 2007, 09:47:51 PM
LOL @ wap browser. when was the last time you used a cell phone?

(http://i2.tinypic.com/645ip7c.png)

So lets go ahead and open opera and check my myspace.

(http://i10.tinypic.com/4xyj1c4.png)

(http://i11.tinypic.com/3ygrb6c.png)




keep trying buddy..  8)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace2.jpg)

(http://homepage.mac.com/ejrizo/iphonemyspace3.jpg)

have you had any problems with your iphone yet?? i'm waiting to get mine back after sending it back to HK for repairs...the touch screen fucked up outta nowhere...other iphone users have the same problem..just wondering if yours is working...
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Ozir on December 22, 2007, 11:44:04 PM
^ I've had my iPhone from day one, just like E.J. Rizo... absolutely no problems.  Best phone I've ever owned.  Hope the repair works out for you.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 23, 2007, 11:54:11 AM
Quote
Analyst: Apple iPhone screen problems may get worse - the dreaded "dead strip"
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/10/analyst-apple-iphone-screen-problems-may-get-worse-the-dreaded-dead-strip.html

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/iphone-dead-screen-display-strip.jpg)

Just when we thought it couldn’t get worse (seriously, we thought it would stay an isolated and rare defect), Nomura International analyst, Richard Windsor released a note to clients indicating that the iPhone’s “dead strip” display problem could become more widespread.

Apple bought the rights to the screen technology used in the iPhone from a Finnish firm. Finnish firm reported that usage led to the same unresponsive display problems after some time. Apparently, 3 to 6 months of “extensive use” would start to degrade the technology and cause a lose of sensitivity to touch-inputs. This suggests that the relatively new iPhone fleet in the US could start to exhibit similar problems with time.

With technologies as advanced as multi-touch, and production volumes as large as they are, hardware faults could very reasonably start to crop up.

We’ll keep a close eye on this problem for you guys, but should you find yourself facing the dreaded “dead strip,” drop us a line and let us know. Seriously, we’d appreciate it.

Update
The iPhone does not use heat chemical deposition technology, nor does it detect inputs based on heat.

[Via: The Inquirer]


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Coming in 2008: iPhone battery rot?
http://scobleizer.com/2007/12/14/coming-in-2008-iphone-battery-rot/

Just picked up Patrick and turns out his iPhone is only lasting a few hours now in standby mode without doing anything on it!

So, it’s going into the shop tomorrow. Damn, we sure have a lot of problems with Apple stuff. On the other hand, Dave Winer’s Mac just died and he thinks that only means one thing: a new Mac is coming soon. Well we already KNOW a new iPhone is coming soon, so maybe Dave has a point? Me? Now I know why I keep my Nokia around.

Anyone else having problems with iPhone battery life?

29 Comments »

Nope. Mine is doing great. Bought it the first day it came out and have been using it like nuts.

Comment by Frank Gilroy — December 14, 2007 @ 8:17 pm

I love my Nokia N82! Using it to take pictures, movies and live blog is great, but the best part is I can carry 3 or so batteries in my pocket and not have to worry about being in a situation where I’m without connectivity.

Comment by Stefan Constantinescu — December 14, 2007 @ 8:26 pm

[…] Robert Scoble’s kid Patrick has an iPhone that isn’t lasting as long as it was on day one, something that batteries always seem to do. Mobile phones with multimedia capabilities inside tend to wear out batteries quite rapidly. I’ve had my N95 since August and I’m already up to my second battery. What will happen when people who own the iPhone can’t make it through the day? Will 2008 be the year that a huge wave of consumers sue Apple for their faulty batteries like they did back in 2005? […]

Pingback by 2008: Year of the Apple iPhone battery rot — December 14, 2007 @ 8:47 pm

No problems here. I’ve noticed that with the 1.1.2 firmware, the wifi finder is a bit active and tends to run things down a bit quickly. Aside from that, seems fine - got it launch day.

Comment by Brian Lewis — December 14, 2007 @ 9:02 pm

– we sure have a lot of problems with Apple stuff –
Yep, between the two of you, you’ve had more trouble than any 100 Mac/Apple owners I’ve ever known. You don’t live in the same area so it’s probably not the water but it has to be something.

Comment by PXLated — December 14, 2007 @ 9:04 pm

No problems here. With average use (about 1 hour a day email/web/phone & 30 minutes or more music playing), I only plug in my iPhone every two days or so and it still has nearly 1/2 charge.

Comment by Mike Cohen — December 14, 2007 @ 9:49 pm

…and it’s reasons like this why I don’t have a iPhone and have not considered another Mac. In fact, I just bought a (heavily discounted thanks to Black Friday specials) PC based laptop.

-A

Comment by Adam — December 14, 2007 @ 10:15 pm

Yes. The same issue here, but even less. I am done with it, sadly. Given that I am in the presence of other sufferers, I feel compelled to gripe that of the last 3 Apple purchases I made - all three failed. Two laptops and now this. Failed in the sense of expectations.

As a long time developer, primarily on the Win platform (primarily web based apps), I wanted to make the move to Apple. I wanted to do so in order to not only enjoy a different, sexy OS, but also to more easily test, and frankly to enjoy a different feel. While I had used Apples, I had not purchased one since pre-Win 95.

But as stated in the Godfather - every time I try to get out, they pull me back in. The first laptop (this past summer) had heating issues. I then got the new Santa Rosa MacBook Pro and not only did it have heat issues, but the vid card was bad.

It should not be so hard to leave the non-Apple systems. It is not even about dumping Windows, since Bootcamp gets rid of that. Sigh. Three strikes and you are out perhaps, but damnit, I find myself wanting to try again because it seems as though I am missing out (and practically speaking - I want to be exposed to the platform and testing).

But I am not going to keep burning myself literally and otherwise, because as they say, when you continuously repeat the same act over and over again as though the results are going to be different and they are not…

Comment by benb — December 14, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

Dave Winer posts about problems with Apple. Scoble posts about problems with Apple. Must be a few weeks since the last lot of “Apple, oh Apple, woe is me. Thee has let me down for the last time” posts.

Comment by Diego — December 14, 2007 @ 10:38 pm

Say it with me: The singular form of data is not anecdote.

That was a real link-baiting headline, Robert. I expected better of you :-)

Comment by Tim — December 14, 2007 @ 10:40 pm

Yep, I’m having the same problem too. At the moment my phone seems to last a day with quite low usage. I suppose I’ll have to take mine into Apple as well.

If only they had user-replaceable batteries. :(

Comment by Sina — December 14, 2007 @ 11:14 pm

Call Apple. Since the iPhone is less then a year old, I am sure it is eligible for a free battery replacement.

Comment by Chris — December 15, 2007 @ 6:17 am

If only they had user-replaceable batteries — and then you’d be bitching about how thick the iPhone is.

Scoble, you and I must represent the ying and yang of Apple ownership. In 10 years: 4 notebooks and 2 desktops, 4 iPods, 2 airport base stations, and one iPhone I have used Apple’s warranty zero times. I have experienced no dead pixels, no death on delivery, no failed keyboards. Nothing - every piece of equipment is either still functioning in my possession or working when I sold it. (And in that litany of ownership, those aren’t all mine, they are the family’s, I’m not replacing iPods and computers every year - personally, it is more like every 30 - 36 months.)

Comment by david — December 15, 2007 @ 7:51 am

To all the suckers who clicked, to all the Apple haters here to get their daily dose, to all the commenting Microsoft BlackPR A holes, and to Robert (who is now a little richer), have a merry Christmas and happy new year-from Zato.

Comment by zato — December 15, 2007 @ 8:40 am

brand new iPhone is in standby mode (not sim unlocked for my network yet) and hsa WiFi off, over night loses half its charge. SUCK MY APPLES!

Comment by btard — December 15, 2007 @ 8:52 am

My iphone battery is working fine. Haven’t missed a call yet. Can’t say that about my previous phone.

Hey on another note- what ever happened to that Surface crap that MS was going to launch supposedly this year??? That should have been voted the worst vapor-ware of 2007!

Comment by lrd — December 15, 2007 @ 9:50 am

1 iPhone, 2 MBP’s, 3 iMac’s, and a Mac Pro along with a display over the last two years between home and office purchases. No problems to date. My 3rd gen iPod kept having hard drive problems but Apple kept replacing. I don’t keep the wifi on for the iPhone very much as our office wifi is a pain to attach to. I do keep the Bluetooth on all the time. Battery life is very good for me.

I think your problem is user error ;-)

Comment by Sam — December 15, 2007 @ 10:45 am

My iPhone’s battery is doing fine — I use it very heavily, but it is yet to run out on me before the overnight charge.

I have a feeling that a lot of the people having battery problems have jailbroken phones running badly designed apps. Certainly true in the case of one of my colleagues. (Like #15’s post — no doubt his iPhone keeps trying to connect to a GSM/Edge network all night long thus his battery runs down.) It’s amazing how people don’t put two and two together.

Comment by Ted T. — December 15, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

OK this could indeed be a problem but let me add that so is the battery in the last two LG phones I’ve owned in the past couple of years. Oh yes, there’s also the failure of my Vaio Laptop battery that gives me about 25 min instead of 4 hours. If it is a problem Apple should have done what the other gadget manufacturers do - make sure no one notices until the warranty is up in a year. :-)

Comment by courtney benson — December 15, 2007 @ 3:17 pm

I know 2 people with iPhones, one doesn’t have a problem with it, only because she uses it only for phone calls. As for my mum, her battery doesn’t last beyond a 16-hour day, but she takes a lot of pictures.

Comment by Prolific Programmer — December 15, 2007 @ 4:45 pm

This may not be what’s causing Patrick’s problems, but one issue that’s arisen with a couple of iPhones in my circle of friends has had to do with wifi. Our iPhones burned through the battery every day if we left wifi turned on, especially in Mountain View where there is a relatively week and constant Google municipal wifi signal. Turning wifi off eliminated the problem entirely.

Just a felt sense, but it seems that our phones used up a lot of energy negotiating connections with weak/transient wifi signals. When used in the presence of a strong wifi connection, wifi doesn’t affect battery life noticeably.

Comment by Eric Miraglia — December 15, 2007 @ 11:28 pm

Bought my iPhone release day, use it every day to listen to podcasts on the bus on the way to work and on the way back (hour each way). Use it to surf ad email all that time. Use it as my phone, plug it in each night. I am not seeing any reduction in battery life I have noticed if I accidentally have a javascript heavy page that does quirky stuff and I leave it open and return to the main menu (not quitting the browser by holding down the home button nor closing the page), the battery will run down quicker.

Comment by Eytan — December 16, 2007 @ 3:01 am

Same here. Battery is more than half empty in the morning, fully charged when going to bed. But I suspect it could have something to do with 3rd party apps, such as the Last.fm client Mobile Scrobbler that’s running in the background. And leaving SSH on seems to be eating away the battery life as well. So, I’m trying to single out the issue that’s really causing the battery drain.

Comment by Jaap — December 16, 2007 @ 4:59 am

No problems here in the Uk - mine seems fine, but battery life is one of the things I have listed as a needed improvement.

Comment by Jon Moss — December 16, 2007 @ 5:09 am

Third party apps are obviously going to affect it - not because of any lack of skill on the part of the developer because they’re working new technology which is as yet undocumented. I noticed my battery was draining about 30% overnight so I turned off the email checking automatically every 15 minutes. Funnily enough it stopped me being woken by the device at 2 am because someone wanted to sell me cheap whatevers! Bonus!

The lack of “sleep” has to be major too. iPhone is always awake.

Comment by mj — December 16, 2007 @ 5:11 am

Robert,

Do you know if Patrick has tried re-calibrating his iPhone’s battery (i.e. full charge followed by a full discharge)? I think it will help.

Comment by Siamak — December 16, 2007 @ 7:49 am

I’d like to know how many of those phones are jailbreaks. 3rd party apps can cause bad things to happen. Yea, that’s what I thought.
Don’t blame Apple for poorly designed SW.

Comment by Bizarro Ballmer — December 16, 2007 @ 1:46 pm

My partner and I have had our iPhones since the Friday after the release day. Neither of us is having battery problems. I charge mine most nights, but I do a lot of edge surfing and typically 1-2 hours of iPod listening every day, along with the occasional phone call and playing games like iSolitaire. My partner charges his phone every 3 or 4 nights but does relatively little with his during the day.

We both leave the wifi and bluetooth off except when we’re actually using them. I found that the worst offender on battery life was allowing the iPhone to tell me when it had found new hotspots so I almost never use that feature…again, unless I need it.

We both follow rechargable best practices and try to do a full-drain-and-charge roughly once a month. The biggest problem I have is actually waiting for my phone to shut down when the battery dies; I usually let it play some video while the wifi is turned on to help it along.

Comment by jburka — December 18, 2007 @ 8:37 am

Mine (which I bought this summer) was doing ok, but today both of my chargers are ceasing to work. The “battery charging” symbol turns on but then it changes to the “plug” symbol and no charge — neither with the computer cable nor with the wall charger.

Anyone else encountered this problem?

Argh!

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 25, 2007, 09:26:34 AM
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iPhone and iPod Playstation Emulator Released

http://www.mobilewhack.com/iphone-and-ipod-playstation-emulator-released/
Earlier this December, we reported that the unofficial Playstation emulator for the Apple iPhone and iPod, psx4iPhone,
would soon be released. Looks like the waiting time's over, folks,
because version 0.1.0 of said emulator's been released yesterday, December 22.
Make sure to drop by the
developer's web site
http://zodttd.com/wp/
for more information.

(http://www.mobilewhack.com/iphone-playstation-emulator.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2147/2128785627_dfd2ea6413.jpg?v=0)
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psx4iPhone In Action
http://www.youtube.com/v/lp5U4N_tJ9g&rel


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Let's Get Down on December 25, 2007, 10:04:13 PM
^ I've had my iPhone from day one, just like E.J. Rizo... absolutely no problems.  Best phone I've ever owned.  Hope the repair works out for you.

thx, same here :-\
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on December 27, 2007, 02:32:09 PM
i just saw a drop in the e-ten m700 to 330. was thinking about buying but i noticed in a video review its only 2g internet

why are qwerty slide out phones so damn expensive
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 29, 2007, 07:43:52 PM
^^^^
I can only assume,but I believe most qwerty phones is marketed and made for the business market. In other words,less units is produced,so each model cost more to produce.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on December 30, 2007, 04:46:34 AM
is there a big difference between 2 and 3g?

my current phone is still wap lol

i dont want to spend 300 if an important feature is outdated. but i dont have many options at that price
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 30, 2007, 06:02:05 AM
is there a big difference between 2 & 3g?
I dont want to spend 300 if an important feature is outdated

is there a big difference yes & no.
If you're going to download big files like music and shit,yes.
If you're only going to surf the net WITHOUT IMAGES,only text (turn OFF images),then,no.
(Same with e-mail). I believe the phone got edge (2,5) right?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on December 30, 2007, 06:41:54 AM
yea i think thats right. what is edge 2.5 exactly?

i wouldnt need images really. maybe the occasional time but mainly need internet for email, myspace, aim and browsing forums which wouldnt need images on

for downloading mp3 and streaming video id use the wi-fi

though how good would youtube work on 2g?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 30, 2007, 07:05:30 PM
EDGE;
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/enhanced_data_rates_for_gsm_evolution
If you get a unlimited data plan,fuck it then you can be on youtube 24/7,if not I wouldn't recomend it. Just turn on images when you need it,saves you time and money (if you don't have a unlimited data plan).
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on December 31, 2007, 03:24:34 AM
thanks man. vodafone do unlimited access 99c per day only charged days you use it too. only 50mb allowance per day though.im thinking that will cover me browsing the net with images off and im's

then just use wi-fi for everything else

m700 with delivery and 2gb card = 360

not bad will order today

was just worried edge speeds may be too slow but should be fine without images

thanks for the help
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 31, 2007, 04:57:45 AM
^^^^
you should add a 8GB memory card to your order if can afford it,BUT check first if it supports it.
I got around 1200 tracks on my phone,loving it.
Anyways give us a review when you get it,looking forward to another windows mobile user in here. (Matty use WM too,me and Tony use Symbian...)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on December 31, 2007, 06:48:26 AM
seems 8gb can be used with patches added, gonna stick with 2gb card for now. Only costs 12.36  ;D

Still plan on keeping my 20gb mp3 player on me at all times so this should do for now. can always upgrade the memory later.

Will definitely let you know how the phone is. my first windows mobile phone so probably wont be too much in detail

on expansys, when i try to check out it asks for credit card details. I want to pay via paypal, it lets me choose paypal express for each item individually but then i will have to pay separate shipping costs for phone and memory

trying to find a way around this
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on December 31, 2007, 09:50:22 AM
Just ordered. Expect it to arrive in 5-7 days.

Thanks for all the help and advice. yall got a week break till i start bugging you about app's and bugs lol
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on December 31, 2007, 09:49:52 PM
^^^^
I checked a review of your @;
www.mobiletechreview.com
It got a overall good review and the specs is on point.
E-TEN Glofiish M700
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/phones/E-TEN-Glofiish-M700.htm
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E-TEN Glofiish M700

It used to be HTC had a monopoly on that clever side-slider QWERTY keyboard design for Windows Mobile Pocket PC phones. The HTC Wizard (T-Mobile MDA, Cingular 8125) and the HTC Apache (Verizon XV6700 and Sprint PPC-6700) were the first and they were extremely popular. HTC continues the trend with their TyTN (sold as the Cingular 8525 in the US) and a few upcoming models. But none have a GPS. Enter E-TEN and their Glofiish M700 which has an internal SiRF Star III GPS along with every other feature you can cram into a Windows Mobile Pocket PC phone. Think of it as the keyboarded sibling to the Glofiish X500 we recently reviewed, since most every feature is identical. Like the X500, the Glofiish M700 has a 400MHz Samsung CPU, Bluetooth 2.0 +EDR, WiFi 802.11b/g, a 2megapixel camera, and is a quad band unlocked GSM phone with EDGE for data. It also features the same excellent E-TEN value added software and some of the X500's quirks. You'll notice similarity in our reviews of these two devices since they are in many ways identical.

(http://www.mobiletechreview.com/image/phones/m700.jpg)

Design, Ergonomics and Keyboard

But lets start with the important difference: the form factor. The M700 looks like your average reasonably compact Pocket PC phone with a 2.8" touch screen. But there's a side-sliding keyboard hiding in that compact casing: slide the display right to reveal the keyboard. The keyboard is quite similar to the Cingular 8125 and 8525's: broad, roomy and nicely domed keys. They're backlit in light blue and have a line blue LED light running between each row of keys, in typical cool E-TEN fashion.

(http://www.mobiletechreview.com/image/phones/M700_keyboard_lit.jpg)

Two very small Windows Mobile softkeys flank the keyboard (we'd like them to be larger), and the keyboard has dedicated Windows Start Menu and OK keys. The number bad is embedded in the keyboard, and is a darker shade of gray to make them easier to find quickly. To enter a number, press the Function key first (that's the key with a red dot at the lower left hand corner). The Fn key is sticky so you need not hold it down at the same time you're pressing the desired number or symbol, and a double press of the Fn key turns on Fn lock (another double-press turns it off).

(http://www.mobiletechreview.com/image/phones/m700_open.jpg)

The M700 is very close in size to the HTC Wizard and its variants, though the screen looks smaller relative to the casing on the M700. The keyboard slider has no jiggle or wiggle and it locks securely open and shut. Only time will tell if the slider stays tight (the Wizard's tended to get loose over time). The Glofiish is well made and put together, but it's clearly a very plasticy device. If you love gadgets that look and feel expensive, the M700 may not suit you. That said, plastic is plastic-- regardless of whether you buy a plastic device that looks high end or not so high end. While the Glofiish might come up second class in looks, it's just as good in terms of actual function and build quality.    
 
On the front you'll find GPS and Home Menu quick launch buttons above the display, with the earpiece centered between them. The M700 has standard Windows Mobile softkeys below the display and call send and end buttons that flank a square d-pad with center action button. Unfortunately, there are no dedicated OK or Windows Start Menu keys on the front face (these would speed up one-handed operation).

(http://www.mobiletechreview.com/image/phones/m700_back.jpg)
(http://www.mobiletechreview.com/image/phones/m700_bottom.jpg)

Volume up and down buttons as well as the voice command button and a stereo 2.5mm headset jack live on the device's left side and the camera and power buttons are on the right side. As with the X500, we found ourselves constantly accidentally activating voice command since the button is easy to press and is right where you grasp the device to pick it up. The stylus slot is at the bottom right hand corner and the MicroSD card slot and USB sync/charge port are on the bottom as well.

The camera lens, flash and self portrait mirror are on the PDA's back, with the speakerphone grill just to their right. The battery lives under a large plastic door on the back that's more easily removed if you pull the stylus out first, and the SIM lives under the battery. There's a battery release latch that you'll need to slide down before removing the battery. A rubber ridge runs across the back of the phone which makes for more gentle landings on hard surfaces.

In the Box

E-TEN includes the M700, a stylus, Lithium Ion battery, world charger (same mini USB connector, amperage and voltage as recent HTC phones), USB sync cable (the Glofiish supports USB charging), a black horizontal leather case with belt clip, software CD with ActiveSync and Outlook 2002, printed guide and a stereo earbud headset with inline mic.

Phone Features, Data and Reception

The Glofiish M700 is an unlocked GSM quad band phone that will work with any GSM carrier. It supports the 850/900/1800/1900Mhz bands, which are all the bands used in the world, and it has EDGE (but no 3G for data). Reception is good on the 1900MHz and 850MHz bands used in the US and we tested the Glofiish with both T-Mobile and Cingular SIM cards. Though RF isn't as strong as the T-Mobile Dash (an RF champ), it's better than average. Incoming voice quality using the built-in earpiece is good though not fantastic (the Treo 750 gets that honor) and volume is good as well, and similar to the HTC TyTN / Cingular 8525. Outgoing voice using the integrated mic is average with decent volume but some call recipients commented that we were definitely not landline clear. The bundled headset works well for calls and doubles as stereo headphones for multimedia playback.

Download speeds are good by EDGE standards and the M700 averaged 152k on DSL Reports mobile speed test. Mobile versions of Internet Explorer and Outlook are included on the device and they're a standard on all Windows Mobile phones and PDAs. Since the Glofiish runs Windows Mobile 5 with AKU 3.2 it supports MS Direct Push email for use with Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 SP2 or newer.

The M700 offers the same useful phone software found on prior E-TEN Pocket PC phones and the Glofiish X500. The Phone settings applet allows you to switch between 900/1800 MHz (Europe and Asia) and 850/1900 (US). It also offers the usual Windows Mobile settings for manual/automatic network selection, call waiting, call barring, caller ID and call forwarding. The Glofiish has two forms of speed dial, one of which is basically the traditional kind that can hold up to 99 numbers (unassigned slots are filled with most recently called numbers, ordered by how frequently you've called them) and another called Index Dial which shows you each letter of the alphabet. Tap on a letter to quickly see all the contacts whose first names start with that letter. This is much faster than scrolling through your Contacts list, though you have that option as well.

The Glofiish M700 comes with Voice Commander 2.0, a voice recognition system made by Cyberon that's identical to that found on the Glofiish X500. Voice Commander works for voice dialing (by name or digits) and issuing voice commands to the PDA, i.e.: "start calendar", "today's appointments" or "what can I say?" to bring up help and a list of possible commands. The application uses speech recognition so you need not record voice tags, though you can record them if you wish to improve recognition for challenging commands. The Settings app allows you to turn recognition on or off for applications installed on the device, record tags (if you desire, it's not required) and set sensitivity. Though there's a "Music" tab, there are no options for music. Voice Commander works reasonably well, and it works with Bluetooth headsets, though you must press the voice dialing button on the phone rather than initiate it from the headset.

Horsepower and Performance

We like the Samsung family of XScale compatible processors: they're fast and use less power than many of Intel's 400MHz processors. The M700 and Glofiish X500 share the same Samsung SC32442 CPU, and older E-TEN models relied on 400MHz Samsung processors that got great benchmarks compared to other similarly clocked Pocket PCs. The device is responsive by Windows Mobile standards and the CPU is more than up to demanding tasks such as gaming, mapping, video playback and rendering web pages quickly. Though it lacks a dedicated graphics chip, the M700 did a good job with video playback of clips in encoded in the 300-500kbps range.

The X700 has 128 megs of flash ROM (standard for Windows Mobile Pocket PC phones) with 69 megs available to store files and additional programs. E-TEN's value added programs (installed at first boot) take up 18.51 megs of space, leaving 51 megs free (you can remove any of these programs if you wish). The phone has the standard 64 megs of RAM (used like RAM in your computer) with just under 32 megs free just after boot. For additional storage the M700 has a MicroSD card slot located on the device's bottom edge. The smartphone is compatible with cards up to 2 gigs in capacity. The M700 runs Windows Mobile 5, AKU 3.2 and the ROM version on our phone is WWE 052 0300.
GPS

The Glofiish M700 has a SiRF Star III GPS with an internal antenna (identical to the Glofiish X500's right down to bugs and software, so both share the same review copy). It comes with a GPS viewer application but no mapping or guidance software, so you'll need to provide your own copy of CoPilot, TomTom or whatever Windows Mobile software you prefer. The M700's GPS has impressive reception-- in fact remarkable given the internal antenna. It managed to pick up 9 satellites in the first story of a two story brick building when we were within 10 feet of a window. The included basic GPS application has a lovely satellite view that shows satellites in view (tracked satellites appear in blue, those in view are red and the 4 used for a fix are shown in green). The app has a globe view that shows the satellites' approximate locations relative to your position on earth.

The "compass" view shows the current time and date, latitude, longitude, altitude, speed and GPS status. This application has some trouble with high ascii characters as you can see in the screen shot on the right, but that's not too troublesome. What is troublesome is that the application is wrong by about 11 miles in describing your current location (altitude is roughly correct). The same is true of the X500. Your first guess is that the GPS itself is not working well, but that's not the case. We tested the GPS with other software (CoPilot and Virtual Earth Mobile) and those applications pinpointed our location correctly.

Time to first fix is roughly a minute and a hot start takes 30 seconds. The M700 has an assisted GPS feature that's similar to the HP iPAQ hw6945. It downloads satellite data over EDGE and WiFi connections to speed up fix time. The GPS settings applet lets you view and change the GPS' COM ports (handy when using mapping applications). We had to fiddle with COM ports when using Virtual Earth Mobile until the application was happy (COM port agreement alone doesn't guarantee it will work, we had to find a port that suited the application, reminding us of the dark days of DOS and Windows 3.1). The M700 has a location SMS application which will send your coordinates via SMS to another phone. It also supports the TMC function which provides road traffic information (if available in your country and area).       


Display and Multimedia

The M700 has a bright and sharp 2.8" color TFT display that can show 65k colors. The touch screen works in both portrait and landscape modes (screen rotation is a standard feature of Windows Mobile 2003SE and newer), and the smartphone comes with a telescoping stylus. You can adjust screen brightness using a slider and there are options to auto-adjust brightness relative to battery level and by idle time (if you're not using the device, it cuts back the brightness after 30 seconds).

For sound the M700 has a rear-firing loud speaker than handles system sounds, music playback and the speakerphone. As with most PDAs, it won't thrill you, but it gets the job done. The speaker does distort at high volumes. Sound through the stereo 2.5mm headset jack is quite good using the included stereo earbud headset with mic. A mic gain applet lets you control recorded audio volume and there are no EQ settings built in for music and video playback.

WiFi and Bluetooth

The Glofiish M700 is a well connected device with WiFi 802.11b/g and Bluetooth 2.0 +EDR. The PDA sports E-TEN's usual wireless manager which allows you to control the phone, WiFi and Bluetooth radios. You can launch the manager by tapping its icon on the bottom of the today screen, or by launching it from M-Desk or the programs group. An x appears next to a radio that's turned off, and you can tap the ubiquitous E-TEN hammer to turn all radios on or off. You can't go directly from the Wireless Manager to the applets that control a given radio however, as you can on HTC devices like the Cingular 8525 and T-Mobile Dash. Instead you'll go to Programs and look inside the Utilities folder to find the Bluetooth Manager and WLAN Utility.

E-TEN uses their own Bluetooth Manager and driver which feature a wizard interface to get you connected to Bluetooth headsets, your ActiveSync partner, or to transfer files over FTP/OBEX. The device supports headset, handsfree, A2DP and serial port profiles as well as vCard exchange. You can set discoverability, default headset and specify the FTP folder on the device. We tested the M700 with a variety of Bluetooth headsets including the Plantronics Discovery 655 and the scala-700 and it worked well. We tested A2DP stereo output (and AVRC playback control) using the Plantronics Pulsar 590 Bluetooth stereo headset which worked fine for system sound and stereo audio. During pairing with headsets (all used the standard 0000 passcode) we didn't have to enter the passcode on the M700-- we assume it auto-tries 0000 when pairing headsets to save you the trouble. The same is true of the X500 which uses the same software as well as Bluetooth and WiFi radios. In file transfer tests, speeds averaged 90k which is more like straight Bluetooth 2.0 non-EDR speeds but still better than 1.1 and 1.2

The WiFi manager, called WLAN Utility, gives you comprehensive information on your current connection and offers power saving and Tx rate settings. It's a nice addition over the basic Windows Mobile 5 networking control panel which provides very little connection information. Connection strength and reliability were good and on par with the Cingular 8525 and HTC TyTN.

Camera

2 megapixels sounds good for a PDA phone, or even a regular US feature phone. As with the X500, there are plenty of pixels, but image quality isn't that great. Images suffer from excessive noise in indoor lighting and a general lack of color saturation in outdoor shots. Whites sometimes blow out for no apparent reason and color is sometimes off. The Glofiish M700's 2MP camera can't compare to the HTC TyTN /Cingular 8525's, and none compare to a good Nokia 2MP camera phone. Take note of our comments on the sample images below which were taken at the highest resolution and image quality settings with auto exposure and white balance.


The camera can take photos up to 1600 x 1200 resolution, as well as a variety of lesser resolutions including one suitable for MMS. Imaging software is the usual excellent and unique E-TEN offering. The camera app offers a wealth of settings, including white balance, special effects, timer and continuous shooting of photos (though the self-timer and continuous shot features were disabled on our production unit). The camera viewfinder takes up the entire screen and you can change between portrait and landscape orientation with the tap of a button.
If you tap on the wrench icon, large, mostly intuitive settings icons appear circling the screen's perimeter. The camera offers a wizard option which allows you to immediately do a variety of things with an image you've just taken: send it via MMS, edit it using the included Image Maker application, trash it, view it in Multimedia Manager or Frame it using Image Wizard. You can save images as JPEG or BMPs and specify the default save location, including the MicroSD card. The camera has 4x digital zoom that works even at maximum resolution (the volume controls act as the zoom buttons), and an LED flash that helps a wee bit when taking photos at close range. The M700 takes video in 3GP format at 320 x 240, 176 x 144 and 128 x 96 resolutions at an average of 4.4fps in normal quality mode at 176 x 144 resolution. Videos tend to be blocky and audio is just passable.

FM Radio

We love FM tuners, but they're still rare in US market phones. The M700's FM tuner supports the US, European and Japanese FM bands and you'll need to select the correct band to tune in stations. You can create a long list of favorite stations (50 per band), dim the screen and move from station to station using VCR-style buttons. As with all mobile phone FM radios, the included stereo headphones act as the FM antenna, so you'll need to plug those in to get reception. The Glofiish has OK reception by phone standards when skies are clear, and you'll have better luck manually stepping up the dial to tune in your stations. Just as with the X500, the station call numbers are off-- FM station 90.1 is read as 92.8 on the M700!    

Software

As always, E-TEN includes an impressive selection of their own value-added software with the phone. The bundle is identical to the X500's (so we'll again share review copy) and nearly identical to the older M500, M600, G500 E-TEN models. Should you delete one and want it back, use the Application Recovery program in the Utilities folder. E-TEN's applications include Add Ringtone, Backup Utility (backup to the device to a MicroSD card), Battery Meter, E-TEN's own Connection Wizard for Bluetooth, Voice Commander, Phone Dialer, Image Maker, Image Wizard, M-Desk, Multimedia Manager, Speed Dial, a customized phone application and dialer skin, GPS Viewer and Skype support.

M-Desk is an application launcher with tabs for Phone, PDA and Fun. Each tabbed screen has icons for appropriate apps and you can customize these with your preferred apps as well. The forth tab, System, gives you fairly comprehensive view of system status: battery charge, available RAM, and MicroSD card memory, backlight setting and it has shortcuts to File Explorer, Bluetooth Manager, Satellite data updater and Voice Commander settings. In addition, there are screen rotation icons at the bottom which allow you to quickly switch between left and right-handed landscape modes and portrait mode. You can add any program to any tab using M-Desk settings (press the wrench icon to get there).


he M700 ships with Skype (VoIP) support (a utility that automatically pipes incoming Skype audio to the earpiece), but not the application itself. So you'll need to download the latest Windows Mobile version from Skype's web site if you wish to make VoIP calls over a WiFi connection. In our tests, Skype worked well with the M700.    


The bundled backup app.


Battery Life

There's plenty of juice to power the Glofiish thanks to a 1530 mAh Lithium Ion battery that's user replaceable. A phone with WiFi, Bluetooth and a GPS needs some serious power, so we're pleased to see that relatively high capacity standard battery. We moderate use we got more than two days on a charge, and that included talking on the phone 40 minutes per day, surfing via EDGE for 30 minutes, using WiFi for 30 minutes, accessing PIM apps, listening to MP3s with the screen off and more each day. If you're a push email addict or plan to use WiFi for a few hours each day, expect to charge nightly. The GPS is a significant power consumer, and if you wish to use it in car for trips of several hours, we suggest a car charger. E-TEN claims the device will last through 5 to 7 hours of GPS use, but that includes no other usage as a phone or PDA. The M700 has a battery meter on the top menu bar and an indicator on the Today Screen-- good going E-TEN, why doesn't Microsoft make this a standard feature?

Conclusion

If you're a fan of the HTC Wizard design Windows Mobile Pocket PC phones but want an internal GPS, the Glofiish M700 is a tempting choice. It ups the ante with WiFi 802.11b/g and Bluetooth 2.0 and a 2MP camera, putting it on par with the newer Hermes line (HTC TyTN et al), and lacks only the TyTN's 3G capabilities. Though somewhat plain and plasticy in appearance, the M700 is solidly constructed and the slider is snug with a reassuring snap into open and closed positions. WiFi performs well, Bluetooth is good, though profile selection is slim compared to some recent Pocket PC phones. The M700 is definitely one of those everything except the kitchen sink devices, and happily most of it works well.

Pro: Fast performance, good battery life for a Pocket PC phone with quadruple wireless radios, very good keyboard, GPS is great at getting a fix even under adverse conditions. WiFi and Bluetooth will keep your device connected and the unlocked quad band world phone will keep you talking around the globe. As always, we really like E-TEN's custom suite of applications: they're very useful and stable.

Con: Plasticy looks, occasional spelling errors in E-TEN software on the device, included basic GPS applet gets location wrong by more than 10 miles (at least in the US) though the GPS itself is accurate when used with popular mapping and navigation applications. FM radio station numbers are off (again, at least in the US). No 3G.

 

Price: Approximately US $640

Web site: www.glofiish.com (and www.etencorp.com)

 



Specs:
Display: Transflective TFT color LCD. 65,536 colors, screen size diag: 2.8". Resolution: 240 x 320. Supports portrait and landscape display modes.

Battery: Lithium Ion rechargeable. Battery is user replaceable. 1530 mAh. Claimed Talk time: 5-7 hours, stand by: 150~200 hours. 10 - 15 hours of Pocket PC usage, 5-7 hours GPS usage claimed.

Performance: 400 MHz Samsung S3C2442 processor (100% ARM and XScale compatible). 64 MB built-in RAM. 128 MB Flash ROM with 69 megs available for your use (pre-installed and optional software consumes an additional portion of available storage memory).

Size: 117.5 x 59 x 19.8 mm, 4.62" x 2.32" x 0.78". Weight: 165 grams, 5.82 ounces.

Audio: Built in speaker, mic and 2.5mm stereo headphone jack. Voice Recorder and Windows Pocket Media Player 10 included for your MP3 and video pleasure. Stereo earbud headset with inline mic included.

GSM: Quad band GSM phone: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz. GPRS class 10 EDGE and GPRS for data. Unlocked for use with any GSM carrier.

Networking: Integrated Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR and WiFi 802.11b/g. Bluetooth profiles for FTP, ActiveSync, headset/handsfree, A2DP, DUN (Bluetooth PAN) and serial port. No IR port.

GPS: SiRFStarIII GPS, internal antenna. Supports TMC where available. Basic GPS viewer with satellite view included. You must supply navigation and mapping software. Has location SMS software and Satellite data update (updates data over EDGE or WiFi connection).

Camera: 2.0 MP CMOS camera capable of taking still photos and video with audio. Max. resolution: 1600 x 1200 still shots and 320 x 240 video. Has LED flash and self portrait mirror.

Software: Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC Phone Edition operating system with AKU 3.2 (OS 5.1.422). Microsoft Mobile Office suite including Word, Excel, PowerPoint (view presentations only), Internet Explorer and Outlook. Also, Terminal Services, Pocket MSN (MSN Messenger, Hotmail), Windows Media Player 10 Mobile, Photos and Videos, and Voice Recorder, Solitaire, Jawbreaker as well as handwriting recognition. 3rd party and E-TEN software: M-Desk launcher and system monitor, Image Maker, Image Wizard, Multimedia Manager, Camera, Voice Commander, E-TEN Bluetooth Manager, Backup, Wireless Modem, MMS Composer (some regions only, otherwise use Outlook on the device to send MMS), Call Filter, Speed Dial, Battery Meter, SIM Toolkit, Scenarios (create profiles for four different environments such as outdoor and meeting). ActiveSync 4.1 and Outlook 2002 for PCs included.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 01, 2008, 07:50:56 AM
affordable price too.

how much internet use will 50mb per day last me with images off? like how many kb is an aim message or dubcc forum page?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 01, 2008, 12:11:40 PM
like how many kb is an aim msg
1kb
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dubcc forum page?
5-10kb
^^^^
50mb? wow u can download a couple of tracks,watch a video or two,ha,ha. No problem....
The web browser that comes with it sucks,so the first thing u need is opera mini.
www.getjar.com
go & download all the apps u need now & beam them over to your phone when u get it
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 01, 2008, 12:43:57 PM
dope thanks man. im HOPING it arrives monday at the latest. gonna be a long wait till then!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 01, 2008, 12:51:58 PM
damn that site is amazing. just loaded the homepage and seen a program to make global calls at local rates and another program to send free sms texts. those will definately come handy

props for the link, gonna fully check out the site now!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 01, 2008, 01:16:51 PM
damn that site is amazing. just loaded the homepage and seen a program to make global calls at local rates and another program to send free sms texts. those will definately come handy

props for the link, gonna fully check out the site now!

^^^^
your phone supports J2ME so check out those apps too.
Another application that comes handy is www.nav4all.com for your build in GPS.
www.mig33.com got a good IM client.
As you see there's tons and tons of applications,I believe you will have something to play with for while.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 01, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
NEWS

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t's the Sony Ericsson W52S, umm... I mean the iPhone
http://www.sefanatics.com/other/its-the-sony-ericsson-w52s-umm-i-mean-the-iphone/

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I thought in Japan they would already have something similar to iPhone. I guess that's not true or this Japanese guy is just such a big fan of the Apple's iPhone that he decided to turn his Sony Ericsson Walkman W52S slider to an iPhone. I'm not sure if it was a good idea, because in my opinion this W52S (see below), I mean iPhone looks awful! Anyways, I hope this guy is happy with his new iPhone, heh.

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Sony Ericsson W52s Walkman for Japan
http://www.sefanatics.com/sony_ericsson_phones/sony-ericsson-w52s-walkman-for-japan/

Sony Ericsson W52s is a new Walkman phone for Japans market. It's a slider like the W42s, but everything else is new. W52s has huge 2,7 inch BRAVIA display, 2,1 megapixel camera, 2GB internal memory and it has both Memory Stick Micro and microSD card slots. W52s will be available from June on KDDI's au network in three colors: Arpeggio Blue, Pizzicato Pink and Harmonics White

W52s weights 130g and music playback time is rated at a very respectable 110 hours.

The estimated price is ¥25,000 (205$)

(http://www.sefanatics.com/Kuvat/japan/W52s_2.jpg)

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 02, 2008, 02:38:55 PM
i think im having batteries issues.It drains a lot quicker than usual,maybe i over used it lol .But the worst thing is that i live in canada and my phone and every phone that has the same battery well they doesnt sell those models here! i went to the nokia usa page and the battery is 60$! i went to ebay i can get battery for 1$ but i dont trust that shit. Some are not original and some are oem (original equipement manufacturer) i dont wanna buy something that will fuck up my phone! help me out!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 02, 2008, 03:00:11 PM
^^^^^
yep,the battery "dies" slowly after a years use.
Go back a page and read the post about iphone's battery issue's. The same go's for any phone,but iphone's case you must go to a service center to get it changed.
In your case I belive you must do the same,contact the Nokia service center in your city. So what happend,why don't you pick up a N82? The battery is WAY better than N95,the keys... well,they're SMALL.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 02, 2008, 03:59:45 PM
thx for the advice! i will order my n82 soon! i had to pay some other stuff (bills and shit)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 02, 2008, 09:27:12 PM
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Take back control of your device with Pointui Home.
No need to fumble for a stylus anymore as Home is designed with generously sized controls.

http://www.pointui.com/Home.aspx

Home's intuitive controls and highly responsive user interface makes using your device a breeze. Here are a few of the key features Home has to offer:
Control your device via touch or your thumb with the directional control
Smart Lists Navigation ™ with bookmarks allows you to easily locate an item in even the largest lists
Choose the slide navigation that suits you
One touch access to calls, email, text messages and music
Easily see who and when calls were received, made and missed
Using the Applet Ribbon ™ you can easily access the time, tasks, appointments, calendar and up to date weather forecasts and current temperatures
Easily manage your sound, wireless, battery and device settings
Easy create new emails, text messages, multimedia messages, tasks, appointments, documents and spreadsheets
Load and switch between running applications effortlessly

http://www.youtube.com/v/5pUBWYErW3s&rel&autoplay=0

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Here´s another app you should install ASAP Monotone^^^^^^^
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Ozir on January 03, 2008, 11:06:18 AM
^ Let's give credit where credit is due... this is a straight iPhone UI rip.  Looks good though.   8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 03, 2008, 12:50:07 PM
^ Let's give credit where credit is due... this is a straight iPhone UI rip.  Looks good though.   8)

I have no problem giving credit to where it's due and it's pretty evident that cats around the world do the same. But remember all those 3rd party apps that out there that change your WM or Symbian UI to a "iphone UI" is NOT done by WM or Symbian themself.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Ozir on January 04, 2008, 07:01:25 AM
^ I feel you on that.

I wonder if Apple will be sending these guys a cease and desist letter.

The main reason I love the iPhone is because the UI is amazing... it's like nothing on any phone out there.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 04, 2008, 11:07:05 AM
^ I feel you on that.
I wonder if Apple will be sending these guys a cease and desist letter.
The main reason I love the iPhone is because the UI is amazing... it's like nothing on any phone out there.

Ha,ha but all those apps is for free,so I think they´re going to be spread around anyway.
Windows and Symbian got nothing to do it. But Apple is Apple,they can be some dicks  ;)
I´ve only played with iPhone briefly,so I will save my words until later.....
But all my friends that got it + you guys seems to love it. But then again all of you are a little biased Apple fans. Ha,ha  ;)
I use a MAC myself,but I try not to be caught up with all the hype.
That said it pretty evident that their UI has set a new standards.

iPhone-like UI on a phone that runs Symbian
http://www.youtube.com/v/k0MqPMMBUqQ&rel

Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on January 04, 2008, 06:15:16 PM
I dont fuck with cell phones. majority of them cause cancer. true story.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 06, 2008, 04:52:00 PM
NEWS!

Quote
Look No Further, Freedom Phone is here
http://www.yankodesign.com/index.php/2008/01/03/look-no-further-freedom-phone-is-here/

Have you ever found yourself in a situation where you might have gone traveling overseas and your current mobile phone doesn’t work? Well kiss those problems goodbye with the new Freedom Phone. Freedom Phone is a small pre-paid phone that is unique in design and unique in out it works. Upon arriving into the new country, you have the option of purchasing the Freedom Phone with 60, 100 or 200 minutes. No SIM card needed-No Roaming charges and in 10 short minutes, the Freedom Phone is charged. The phone number, important service and other information are located on the back of the Freedom Phone. Best of all, the Freedom Phone is so tiny; there won’t be the frustration of lagging the phone around with you on your trip. The bottom line, Freedom Phone, is a perfect and new solution to your traveling needs.

Designer: Vadim Kibardin

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LG to make a watch phone?
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/06/lg-to-make-a-watch-phone.html
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Engadget got a chance to take few photos of what seems as LG-made watch phone. And while we still don’t dig the idea of wearing a phone around a wrist, I guess the Korean giant did some research and figured there’s a room on the market for such devices. Apparently, the phone/watch has some cool interface and relies on exclusively on the three buttons located at the bottom of the device. The bad news — at least for the watch phone lovers — is that it appears to be a mere prototype at the moment, but who knows - we may see it hitting the store shelves within few months. In the meantime, check out the short video demoing device after the jump.

http://www.youtube.com/v/ua7nK91d3SM&rel

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Microsoft launches Windows Mobile Training website

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Here’s the scenario. You just got the Windows Mobile device and you’ve no idea what your phone can do and have no-one to call to explain you all the nitty-gritty details. Or, you’re thinking about buying a Windows Mobile powered smartphone, but are unsure whether that’s the right way to go.

Well folks, Microsoft’s thinking about you. Actually they’re thinking (like any other company) how to increase their bottom line and educating the consumers — both individuals and businesses — is one of the pieces of the puzzle.
That being said, they’ve launched the
Windows Mobile Training website;
http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/
where both novice and advanced smartphone users can learn something new.
There’s tons of content available, including how-to demos, courses, documents, sales tools, presentations and much more.
Honestly, the site is so content rich and useful that I think all platform developing companies should have something similar.
This is not to say that Symbian or some other mobile OS developer doesn’t have something like this,
it’s just that Microsoft really did a great job producing and organizing all the content on the site.
Anyway, here’s the link
http://www.windowsmobiletraining.com/
and see for yourself why I like it so much, even though I don’t own a single Windows Mobile device.
NOTE: If you don’t have a Windows Live account (Passport), you’ll have to register to access the site.




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Is this Windows Mobile 7?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/is-this-windows-mobile-7/
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Not all the big news is coming out of CES today: thanks to Nathan Weinberg's InsideMicrosoft blog, we were able to check out a purported internal document detailing the revolutionary new input methods planned for Windows Mobile 7 as well as a ton of supposed screenshots. If this information is, in fact, accurate, it looks like Redmond is planning at least three methods of interacting with the device aside from pressing the usual buttons. First, as you might expect, is multi-touch capability á la the iPhone or Microsoft's own Surface, but it looks like WinMo 7 handsets will also be controllable via shaking and also rotation the device, and even at a distance by way of camera-based gesture recognition. Again, no guarantees that any of these features will be included in the final version or that any of this info or images are even legit, but as you can see from the rather large gallery below, the mounting evidence is extremely compelling. Specifically, you'll definitely want to check out:
New on-screen keyboard
Gesture control
Camera gesture recognition
Touch-based photo editing
Media player

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Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 07, 2008, 02:08:29 PM
More News!


Quote
Sony Ericsson CES 2008 lineup leaked?
www.seworld.com
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While we've yet to see anything legit come out of team Sony Ericsson at CES, we're seeing some nice pics surfacing of what are likely the real deal. Apparently Sony Ericsson are set to launch the W760i, Z555i, and the W350i -- which in our eyes is a pretty sweet flip -- which is pictured above. No specs have appeared yet, but we figure you'll settle for the lovely pics until Sony Ericsson opens the floodgates. Hit the read link for more shots.

Update: Many thanks to the posters over at SEworld for getting some early press images up


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Sony Ericsson announces W760 Walkman slider
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/sony-ericsson-announces-w760-walkman-slider/
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Though Sony Ericsson already has a couple phones out with support for North American 3G, you're feasting your eyes on the first and only Walkman branded handset to feature the sacred 850 and 1900MHz bands of HSDPA action. The W760 slider features quadband EDGE plus triband HSDPA, integrated GPS, FM radio, 3.2 megapixel camera, Memory Stick expansion, stereo speakers, and support for the "SensMe" technology recent handsets from the company have been rocking, allowing users to simply shake the phone to control music playback. No word on pricing, but it should launch in the second quarter of the year.


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Sony Ericsson W350i, Z555i, W760i to be announced at CES *UPDATE*
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/06/sony-ericsson-w350i-z555i-w760i-to-be-announced-at-ces.html

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Sony Ericsson announcing devices at CES? Sounds weird, you would think they would wait a month for 3GSM. Word on the street is their going to announce 3 handsets. The 350i brings back the old school flip form factor that is sure to win some nostalgic hearts. Next up is the Z555i which is supposed to be a fashion phone, I think. It certainly is shiny. Last is the 760i which excites me. It looks to have a 3.2 megapixel camera and a standard 3.5 mm headphone jack, something that we weren’t sure SE knew existed! It also has GPS. These are rough specs and they could be wrong, but it looks like we will find out in a few days if not definitely next month at Mobile World Congress.

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Update:

The press releases are now official. Phone Scoop has the best summary out there of all three devices which are supposed to hit in Q2:
W760: This Walkman phone is a slider that comes with quad-band GSM/EDGE as well as tri-band 850/1900/2100 HSDPA radios for worldwide 3G roaming. It has SensMe for turning off alarms and silencing calls by waving your hand over the phone, GPS with Wayfinder navigation and preloaded Google Maps, Track ID, an FM radio, Shake Control, and comes boxed with a 1GB Memory Stick. It also has a 3.2 Megapixel camera and stereo Bluetooth.
W350: This mid-range Walkman flip has two tri-band configurations, one 850/1800/1900 and the other 900/1800/1900. It also comes with a 1.3 Megapixel camera, Track ID, and lets you control music when the phone is closed. It has an FM radio, stereo Bluetooth and comes bundled with a 512MB Memory Stick.
Z555: This clamshell comes in two different diamond-styled colors. It has a hidden OLED exterior display, a 1.3 Megapixel camera, FM radio, Gesture control and stereo Bluetooth.

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SE W760
http://www.youtube.com/v/_4opl_YjLKM&rel

Sony Ericsson W760 with Tilt Steering in Games
http://www.youtube.com/v/Nh0-PwDqOLY&rel


EDIT;
I have added video of the new SE W760,Tony you better check it out.
If this is the direction SE is aiming for on their PSP phone shit will be mad dope....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 07, 2008, 02:14:42 PM
the phone looks promising as hell  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 08, 2008, 09:23:28 AM
Expansys telling me there is a delay in them receiving the stock, still waiting for the m700 to arrive  >:(
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 08, 2008, 05:06:22 PM
News


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Make your iPhone listen to your radio -- and tell you what's playing
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/07/make-your-iphone-listen-to-your-radio-and-tell-you-whats-pla/
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767100.jpg)

Picture it: you're riding in the car and a great song comes on the radio. You're dying to know what it is so you can go buy it ASAP but there's no satellite radio receiver to tell you what's playing. How can you find out what song it is?
Whip out your iPhone, put it near the car speakers, and watch the screen. Poof! There's the song, artist, and album.
No, I am not kidding.
Our own Erica Sadun was inspired by someone who came up with the original idea, she set off to make it happen, and the result is Listen. It's still "very beta" but, hey, it's still one of the coolest iPhone hacks I've ever heard of. Go check it out and let us know in the comments how it works for you.

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767109.jpg)
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Finally,before you say “Wow”, let me remind you that TrackID exists on Sony Ericsson phones
for some time and from just recently the same functionality is available for phones running Symbian S60 as well…  ;)



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Apple patent application for wobbly iPhone homescreen icons; throwable icons
http://www.intomobile.com/
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The world of tech-rumors is a “wobbly” one indeed (you see what we did there?). The juicier and longer the lead-time of a rumor, the more skepticism and doubt enshroud said rumor. But enough with the flowery rhetoric – the “leaked” iPhone v1.1.3 firmware from Gear Live has been the topic of hot debate as to whether or not the video is legit. We’re all hoping that the firmware-video is the real deal and not some fancy video editing, but we have to leave open the door for the possibility that the firmware “leak” is a hoax.

So, here’s a bit of patent-application-goodness to help legitimize the v1.1.3 firmware video.

It looks like Apple filed for a patent back in August of last year that details the now famous “wobbly” iPhone homescreen icon effect. The patent outlines a method by which a mobile device’s homescreen icons would vibrate/wiggle/wobble, whatever you want to call it, to indicate that the icons’ positions can be altered. The animated GIF below (put together from the patent application diagrams - props to Hrmpf!) matches up perfectly with what Gear Live showed us recently.

However, the patent application also mentions a feature that Gear Live’s video did not demonstrate – the ability for the homescreen icons to be “thrown” across the screen. In moving the icons, the speed and direction of the icon-movement could be interpreted to move the icon to a position different from the point of release. The faster, or “harder,” the icon is thrown, the further it moves.

Upon breaking contact with the touch-sensitive display, the respective icon may resume varying its position. In some embodiments, the respective icon can be “thrown,” so that the final position of the respective icon is different from the point at which the icon is released. In this embodiment, the final position can depend on a variety of factors, such as the speed of the “throw,” the parameters used in a simulated equation of motion for the “throw” (e.g., coefficient of friction), and/or the presence of a lay out grid with simulated attractive forces.

Now, just because Gear Live didn’t’ demonstrate the “throwable” icon feature doesn’t invalidate their “leak.” Technologies mentioned in patent applications are by no means guaranteed to make it into production. Furthermore, it can be argued that since the patent application was published prior to Gear Live’s video, the legitimacy of the video should be held in question.

Whatever the case, we’ll likely know more in a couple weeks. For the meantime, we’re looking forward to “wobbly” homescreen icons and “My Location” features on our iPhone.


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Motorola Z10 hands-on from CES 2008 Las Vegas
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/08/motorola-z10-hands-on-from-ces-2008-las-vegas.html#more-14918
http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/motorola-sign.jpg

We’ve known about it for some time now. We’ve been waiting for it to drop. Motorola just made it official. And, now we had a chance to play with the Motorola Z10.

Unfortunately, it turns out that the Z10 display units that we had a chance to test at the Motorola booth were still prototypes. We’ll talk more about what that means in a bit. For now we’re going to give you a bit of insight into the Motorola Z10 user experience.

Overall, the Moto Z10 is a striking piece of RAZR-esque design that is both bold and sleek at the same time. The handset’s lines are essentially the same as Motorola’s Z8 slide-phone - with the same “slide and bend” design.

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Buttons feel nice and rubbery with a satisfying tactile response. Dedicated music controls and camera buttons make it as easy to capture your memorable moments with the photo and video camera as it is to kick back and listen to some tunes.

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And, as Dusan mentioned previously, this Z8 successor bumps up the camera image-sensor pixel count to 3.2 megapixels, up from the Z8’s 2 million pixels. Pictures are sharp and clear with virtually no shutter lag - and the camera has a “multi-shot” feature that allows you to take 3, 5, or 12 pictures in sequence.

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However, likely owing to the fact that the Z10 we played with was a prototype (production units were said to be available at the end of the Q1 2008), video recording on the handset was unacceptably sub-par. Video seemed to be recording at something like 10-15fps - not what we expected from the Z10.

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Overall, the MOTORIZR Z10 is a slick piece. We weren’t able to test out the 3G HSDPA and full HTML browser, nor the instantaneous video broadcasting, but those are some pretty trick features that are sure to appeal to a lot of people. Oh, and don’t forget the 3.5mm headphone jack - Sony Ericsson always does.

Motorola MOTORIZR Z10 video recording sample
http://www.youtube.com/v/J3TuSYbKXFs&rel
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 09, 2008, 02:42:13 PM
NEWS

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Hands-on with Aigo's iPhone-ripping, Menlow-based MID
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/08/hands-on-with-aigos-iphone-ripping-menlow-based-mid/
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We got a chance to play with the new Aigo MID that sports the Intel Menlow chip, and here's a slew of shots for you to peep. A few items of note: first, the thing is totally trying to rip the iPhone's interface -- you can't really debate that, though sitting atop its janky Linux implementation, it feels pretty third rate. On the bright side, the little guy uses a new, touchscreen-MID-centric version of Mozilla called CoolFox, which is nice to see on a handheld. Check the gallery and see for yourself.

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^^^^So what will Apple do about this one Ozir? It´s not a fan made UI this time..
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SanDisk announces 12GB microSDHC card, world's largest; Promises 16GB later in the year
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/09/sandisk-announces-12gb-microsdhc-card-worlds-largest-promises-16gb-later-in-the-year.html
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Here’s something for those of you craving for more store capacity on your mobile phone. SanDisk has announced the “world’s largest” microSDHC card that has a capacity of 12GB. Apparently, that’s enough to store a combination of 1,500 songs, 3,600 photos and 24.5 hours of video — at least SanDisk says so.

According to Gizmodo, SanDisk’s reps at the CES said the bigger, 16GB, cards are coming later in the year! Still, some people — including the truly yours — consider 12GB to be quite enough. Can’t wait to see it released… Full release after the jump.

PRESS RELEASE - SanDisk Corporation, the proven leader in flash memory, today announced it has begun to sample 12-gigabyte (GB) microSDHC flash memory cards to major phone manufacturers for testing and evaluation. The 12GB card represents a 50 percent boost in card capacity from SanDisk’s industry-leading 8GB microSDHC cards, which are currently available worldwide, and highlights the growing popularity of mobile phones with storageintensive features that include music players, digital cameras, video recording and playback and GPS capabilities.

“Mobile phones have become a key part of consumers’ lifestyles around the globe,” said Jeff Kost, senior vice president and general manager of the Mobile Consumer Solutions division at SanDisk. “What many people tend to overlook is the important role that removable storage cards play in enabling the key features of these fully featured mobile phones. In fact, many people are not even aware that their phone has a card slot which is why SanDisk recently launched its Wake Up Your Phone campaign.”

SanDisk has embarked on a ’slot education’ program to raise awareness of both the card slot included in the majority of new mobile phones available today and the benefits to the consumers who use it. More information is available at: www.WakeUpYourPhone.com.

A 12GB microSDHC is ideal for storing large quantities of music, photos and video. For example, it will be able to store a combination of 1,500 songs, 3,600 photos and 24.5 hours of video.

SDHC is the designation for any SD or SD-based card that is larger than 2GB and adheres to the new SD 2.00 specification required for cards and hosts to support 4GB to 32GB capacities. The specification was developed by the SD Association, an industry standards board, which has also created three classes to define minimum sustained data transfer speed. These cards adhere to the SD Speed Class 4 Rating.

In addition to the microSDHC, SanDisk also offers a broad range of both embedded and removable storage solutions for mobile handset manufacturers and mobile network operators. These include iNAND and mDOC embedded flash drives; microSD, miniSD removable flash cards; and SIM and MegaSIM cards.

^^^^YES,YES,I need more memory... "only" got 6GB now,a little over 1300 tracks on my phone (no skits,straight up full tracks)
But need more,can never get enough  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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EA Mobile: iPhone is hurting mobile gaming industry
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/09/ea-mobile-iphone-is-hurting-mobile-gaming-industry.html
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Right from the floor of CES, Macworld brings us an interesting story about Apple and how it hurts mobile gaming industry. According to EA Mobile’s VP of worldwide studios Travis Boatman, iPhone is “a replacement for someone who had a RAZR before. They still want their content but there’s no distribution platform in place so there’s a negative impact on the industry.”

And while we agree with you on this Trevis, you should be more patient man. The SDK is right around the corner and you’ll be able to get back all the money you’ve “lost” because Apple closed the platform. In the meantime, go make your team release something interesting. You can always port it later…

^^^^^oooohhhh well^^^^^
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 09, 2008, 03:43:25 PM
12 GB? damn!!! i want one (mini not micro :P) we cant never have enough of memory!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 09, 2008, 08:00:21 PM
i went to the electronic store to buy some bluetooth headphone (insigna),baught them,went home,put the headphones on my head,connect to my cell phone and guess what? SOUND QUALITY IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!! i was so pissed off but in a way i dont give a fuck cause im gonna go exchange them tomorrow for some bomb ass earphones (skullcandy)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 09, 2008, 08:27:08 PM
12 GB? damn!!! i want one (mini not micro :P) we cant never have enough of memory!

but you're going to get N82 ain't you? is it out,it has been quiet since it officially got announced. (no reviews and what not,strange)
BTW,there's MINI converter in the package,so don't worry as long as your phone supports it.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 09, 2008, 08:37:31 PM
Thanks for all the info in here.  Some really good shit.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Ozir on January 09, 2008, 09:07:49 PM
Make your iPhone listen to your radio -- and tell you what's playing
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/07/make-your-iphone-listen-to-your-radio-and-tell-you-whats-pla/
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767100.jpg)

Picture it: you're riding in the car and a great song comes on the radio. You're dying to know what it is so you can go buy it ASAP but there's no satellite radio receiver to tell you what's playing. How can you find out what song it is?
Whip out your iPhone, put it near the car speakers, and watch the screen. Poof! There's the song, artist, and album.
No, I am not kidding.
Our own Erica Sadun was inspired by someone who came up with the original idea, she set off to make it happen, and the result is Listen. It's still "very beta" but, hey, it's still one of the coolest iPhone hacks I've ever heard of. Go check it out and let us know in the comments how it works for you.

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767109.jpg)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767092.jpg)


Finally,before you say “Wow”, let me remind you that TrackID exists on Sony Ericsson phones
for some time and from just recently the same functionality is available for phones running Symbian S60 as well…  ;)


Been playing with this all day and it is dead on... Very cool  8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 10, 2008, 10:07:46 AM
I went to the electronic store to buy some bluetooth headphone (insigna),
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bought them,went home,put the headphones on my head,connect to my cell phone and guess what?
SOUND QUALITY IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!
I was so pissed off but in a way i dont give a fuck cause im gonna go exchange
them tomorrow for some bomb ass earphones (skullcandy)
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What´s wrong the reception (sound) quality?
or the headphones sound quality?


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O ROKR Bluetooth Stereo Eyewear
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=137
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Get ready to enjoy wireless connectivity and stereo music with O ROKR, the next generation of Bluetooth® eyewear from Oakley and Motorola. O ROKR combines High Definition Optics® with technologies that let you stay connected to calls and music while hiking, biking or doing virtually any activity* where cords and wires would get in the way. O ROKR gives you absolute wireless freedom, digital stereo fidelity and patented optical clarity.

^^^^^ :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ^^^^^


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AudioBug Mini Wireless FM Transmitter Review
http://www.i4u.com/section-viewarticle-36.html
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The AudioBug is available at TheAudioBug.com for $39.95.

Overview:

This time the item up for review is the AudioBUG by Aerielle. Like the device I reviewed previously, this is an FM transmitter designed to be connected to ANY device that supports headphones and the transmit the audio to an FM radio (Since I reviewed another FM device I will do a comparison at the end of this review). The AudioBUG is, in a word, SMALL. (as in a little over an inch long and shaped like a little mouse either computer or real LOL). Including the tail (the headphone cord and plug) it has few controls, it has a power button (in place of one of the 'eyes') a small switch on the side to set the frequency to one of 4 choices (88.1, 88.3, 88.5, and 88.7 ) and finally a battery cover (taking one CR2 Lithium 3 Volt battery).

Like my testing with the Anydrive MP3, I used a variety of audio devices to test with (an MP3 CDS player, my Minidisc player, and my laptop computer this time and TV). Since the AudioBUG is battery powered, I can use it ANYWHERE, so I have been testing (and having fun mind you) this BUG everywhere.
Like tonight, I was watching TV, and my wife and I started making dinner, we couldn't hear the TV from the kitchen so I plugged the AudioBUG into the TV headphone jack, set the radio in the kitchen to the proper station, and long and behold, we had the TV audio in the kitchen (very clear too). The main limitation of the BUG is it only has a 15 foot range and another limitation is it only has the 4 frequencies it can transmit on, but it seems to have a slightly more powerful transmitter than the Anydrive product, so it stays clear longer.

All in all I have been having a blast with the AudioBUG, it will get a lot of use, both in the car and in the home as well (I almost forgot to mention, in the car it is awesome, no long wires all over the place. I just placed the audio device on the dashboard, along with the AudioBUG hooked up (I have a sticky pad on my dashboard) and I can listen in peace, without the birds nest of wires around)

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Good Points:
Flexible, can be used with ANY audio device.
Runs on a Battery, and can last up to 40+ hours (I'm still on the original battery and I have been using it a few days now)
Very tiny size, easy to take anywhere
Clear audio, in Stereo

Bad Points:
The CR2 battery it uses is on the expensive side (I checked around, finding them for about $6.45 or so at Wal-Mart). Limited frequency range, could have been better to have ability to tune across the whole frequency range.


Conclusion:
In conclusion I really like the AudioBUG, in my opinion, it's a nicer, more convenient device than the Anydrive I tested previously. It is more flexible, even though it won't take memory plugged in so you could play MP3's, it still is easier to use anyplace you want to have audio playing from any source, through your stereo.



Comparison between the Anydrive MP3 and the AudioBUG:

Size, the AudioBUG wins hands down (see photos)
Ease of use, again the AudioBUG by a slight margin, because of the battery use, as opposed to just using a power cord
Flexibility, well, depends on your uses, if you happen to have a 'thumbdrive' and want the option to play MP3's in your car from the thumbdrive, then the Anydrive is for you, if however you want to use the device ANYWHERE, even places without a power source, then the AudioBUG is for you
Portability, the AudioBUG wins again, it fits into ANY pocket, whereas the Anydrive MP3 will fit into a big pocket
Frequency range, The Anydrive wins here, it has 14 choices for frequency use, where the AudioBUG only has 4, more limited, but I haven't run into a problem yet.
Anydrive versus Audio

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Specification:Signal Format:   Standard FM Stereo, 38 KHz subcarrier
Audio Range:   15 Hz - 15 kHz
Signal-to-Noise Ratio:   >60dB
Total Harmonic Distortion:   0.3%, Max.
Channel Separation:   40 dB Typical
Channel Balance:   +/- 2 dB

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^^^^This shit looks cool,but what about the sound quality?^^^
This sounds fantastic,bringing my music with me everywhere!!!!!
I posted similar gadgets for SE and iphone below;


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Sony Ericsson MMR-60 musicphone FM transmitter
http://www.engadget.com/2005/10/17/sony-ericsson-mmr-60-musicphone-fm-transmitter/
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Sony Ericsson has just revealed a new FM transmitter for musicphones that will allow any handset (as long as it happens to say Sony Ericsson on it) to pipe its tunes to any radio within range. Clearly designed to complement their upcoming W900, the MMR-60 transmitter rocks the same colors and graphics we've come to know and love from Sony's "sports" lineup of "extreme" electronics. No word yet on pricing or availability, but it's a safe bet that you'll be able to pick this up concurrently or prior to the W900 hitting the scene.

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Griffin 4031-RDGC RoadTrip FM Transmitter and Car Charger for iPod (Charcoal)



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iPhone FM Transmitter With LCD Screen
http://www.ipodhacks.com/article.php?sid=2471
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Have the holidays left you the proud, new owner of an iPhone? Congrats and welcome to the wonderful world of iPhone accessory shopping! To start you off, here's a handy gadget for anyone whose commute involves sitting behind a steering wheel: the iPhone FM Transmitter with LCD screen

In fact, it's compatible with any iPod sporting a dock connector, as well. Just dial in the target FM channel of your choice and begin to enjoy its FM-broadcasted goodness.

The iPhone FM Transmitter with LCD Screen can be had for $24 USD.





Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 10, 2008, 10:26:15 AM
Make your iPhone listen to your radio -- and tell you what's playing
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/01/07/make-your-iphone-listen-to-your-radio-and-tell-you-whats-pla/
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767100.jpg)

Picture it: you're riding in the car and a great song comes on the radio. You're dying to know what it is so you can go buy it ASAP but there's no satellite radio receiver to tell you what's playing. How can you find out what song it is?
Whip out your iPhone, put it near the car speakers, and watch the screen. Poof! There's the song, artist, and album.
No, I am not kidding.
Our own Erica Sadun was inspired by someone who came up with the original idea, she set off to make it happen, and the result is Listen. It's still "very beta" but, hey, it's still one of the coolest iPhone hacks I've ever heard of. Go check it out and let us know in the comments how it works for you.

(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767109.jpg)
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tuaw.com/media/2008/01/asnapshot1199767092.jpg)


Finally,before you say “Wow”, let me remind you that TrackID exists on Sony Ericsson phones
for some time and from just recently the same functionality is available for phones running Symbian S60 as well…  ;)


Been playing with this all day and it is dead on... Very cool  8)


I have yet to test it myself,but shit looks cool.
Tony have have you tried it?
Posted download links for symbian S60 and Java versions below,will post a link for WM phones when I come over one  ;)


Symbian;
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Review: Shazam iD, TrackID is no longer just a Sony Ericsson thing
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/11/11/review-shazam-id-trackid-is-no-longer-just-a-sony-ericsson-thing.html
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0005.jpg)

f you have a Sony Ericsson device released in the past 2 years or so then you have a most awesome application on your device called TrackID. If you never used it before, here is what you’re missing out on: Once you open the TrackID application you can hold your phone up to a speaker playing a song and within a few seconds you have the name of the track, artist and album you’re currently listening to. This works with the radio as well so you don’t even have to take off your headphones in that situation.

I have long been an advocate that Nokia get off their ass and replicate this application for their S60 powered devices, but my complaints fell on deaf ears. That is until now.

Where did I find it?

I immediately went off on a quest to find this application,
but my efforts were thwarted once I reached
Shazam’s website.
http://www.shazam.com/music/portal/sp/s/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default/template/pages/p/shazam_id.html
Not only does this company fail to provide a URL for a SIS file, you have to be a UK resident and send a premium SMS to get a download URL. Who do I know in the UK? The folks over at All About Symbian! I sent an email to both Rafe and Steve asking if they could help me out with this review by giving me the download URL and they did without hesitation, thanks guys.

The link is
http://www.shazam.com/shazamid
and you have to visit it in your mobile web browser. This should make typing it out a lot less painful:
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazamid_qr.png)

Let me convince you to download this!

Here is Shazam’s icon. I find it horrible, which is why I’m pointing it out, in hope that they change it in future versions:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0004.jpg)

The splash screen is the first image on the top of this post, here is what you see after that disappears:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0008.jpg)

When you click “Tag Now” the application automatically begins to record a short snippet of the audio currently playing. This takes around 5 seconds at best, I didn’t time it so don’t quote me on that:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0020.jpg)

After it is finished Shazam will ask you to connect to the internet, in this case I selected my provider, Kolumbus:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0023.jpg)

What is this young, single, mobile phone addict listening to? Rick Astley! The song name scrolls, artist name is right under that and the last line indicates the time when you clicked on “Tag Me.” One more thing, full album art! I’ll come back to what that 1/14 indicates:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0026.jpg)

When clicking on “Share it,” a text message entry dialog pops up allowing you to send an SMS to a friend who might like, laugh at, or hate this song:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0031.jpg)

RealTone doesn’t work for me, it just pulls up Shazam’s site, which is useless. Now what did that 1/14 indicate? MyMusic is a list of all the songs you identified. No clue as to the limit of items within that list. Yes I like Modern Talking, no I’m not gay:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0041.jpg)

Moving one tab over to “TagChart” you can see the most popular songs people are trying to identify:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0049.jpg)

That is all. A very simple application, it does 4 things: ID the song currently playing, list the songs you tagged, list the songs people are tagging the most and letting you share the name of that track with your friends.

Message to Nokia:
Clone this
Add the ability to “Download now via the Nokia Music Store”
Add the ability for me to identify songs currently playing on the radio
Let me see what songs my friends are tagging
Let me see what songs my country and other countries are tagging
Do it before Sony Ericsson does because they already have plans to implement everything I just said.

Update: A developer asked me if Shazam and TrackID poll the same database, they do, it is called Gracenote. I’ve also decided to throw in one more screenshot of some songs I had playing over my stereo:

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/shazam0050.jpg)

(http://www.shazam.com/music/images/s/shazamid_hd.jpg)
(http://www.shazam.com/music/images/s/shazamid.jpg)
http://www.shazam.com/music/portal/sp/s/media-type/html/user/anon/page/default/template/pages/p/shazam_id.html



The fully-featured, full-fat enhanced version of Shazam's world leading music recognition technology now available as a downloadable smart application for Symbian operating system handsets

(see list below for details of handsets Shazam iD will work on).

Full-resolution sensitivity - cuts through background noise to sample the tune.
Twice as fast - fingerprint is taken 'on device'.
Can be used even if there's no network connectivity - the sample is stored and can be sent later.
View cover art.
Check and manage your tag list direct from your handset.
Share your tags with friends.
See the latest weekly Tag Charts on your mobile.
Download it and try it for FREE today!
Text SMART to 80805
You get a text with a link to the download. Click on the link.
Shazam checks that your phone is compatible.
The application gets downloaded to the appropriate folder in your phone!
Open it and start experiencing the next level of music recognition.

(UK only service.)

Trial version is free to use for a limited term. Terms apply.
Tips for successful downloading.

Make sure your wap browser settings allow downloads.
Shazam iD works on the following handsets

(Symbian 3rd Edition Mobile Devices)

Nokia E50
Nokia E60
Nokia E61
Nokia E61i
Nokia E62
Nokia E65
Nokia E70
Nokia E90
Nokia N71
Nokia N73
Nokia N75
Nokia N76
Nokia N77
Nokia N80
Nokia N91
Nokia N92
Nokia N93
Nokia N93i
Nokia N95

Download link for Symbian;
http://www.shazam.com/shazamid




JAVA;
Quote
InetTools- Free TrackID for Java J2ME Mobile Phones: Record Song using Mic to Identify/Recognise Track, Artist & Music Album
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/09/06/inettools-free-trackid-for-java-j2me-mobile-phones-record-song-using-mic-to-identifyrecognise-track-artist-music-album/

InetTools has released a free TrackID application for Java J2ME capable and MIDP 2.0 compatible mobile devices such as Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola, Blackberry and Palm.

TrackID is a free service that allows you to capture and record any music, song or sound clip through the mobile phone’s microphone, compare it to online digital signatures on Gracenote, and recognise/identify the media’s track, artist, and album info. I have previously mentioned TrackID for Nokia S60 and TrackID for Windows Mobile devices. Now you can enjoy the same on any Java J2ME mobile device.

(http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/27388/2000800704163619046_rs.jpg)

InetTools TrackID allows you to record a few seconds of a song using the mobile phone’s microphone and get the track, artist and album information within a few seconds.

Download TrackID for Java J2ME mobile phones here;
http://thinkabdul.com/2007/09/06/inettools-free-trackid-for-java-j2me-mobile-phones-record-song-using-mic-to-identifyrecognise-track-artist-music-album/
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 10, 2008, 08:40:20 PM
the sound quality was complete bullshit so i decided to exchange for some skullcandy earphones

(http://www.nusystems.co.uk/images/products/medium/Smokin.Bud.Black.3330.jpg)

the sound is very good! bang for the buck for sure!!! crystal clear bass
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 11, 2008, 08:09:28 AM
the sound quality was complete bullshit so i decided to exchange for some skullcandy earphones

(http://www.nusystems.co.uk/images/products/medium/Smokin.Bud.Black.3330.jpg)

the sound is very good! bang for the buck for sure!!! crystal clear bass

What´s was the damage?
Did you get to try the Track ID application?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 11, 2008, 08:26:47 AM
the bluetooth worked fine but the sound was crap and i hate crappy sound so i decided to change them
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 11, 2008, 09:04:57 AM
the bluetooth worked fine but the sound was crap and i hate crappy sound so i decided to change them

Damage = how much did you pay for it.....
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 11, 2008, 09:41:37 AM
55$ canadian
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 16, 2008, 10:12:22 PM
News!

Quote
Sony Ericsson superphone to be called "Xperia"?
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/16/sony-ericsson-superphone-to-be-called-xperia/
(http://www.engadget.com/media/2007/09/sony_ericsson-sm.jpg)

Trademork has dug a juicy morsel out of the Trademark Office's filing cabinets today,
nothing that Sony Ericsson filed to get its paws on the term "Xperia" on January 10.
The filing reads like a what's-what of pretty much everything
a cellphone could possibly be expected to do --
perform satellite navigation, function as a remote control for computers and run "multimedia presentations,"
to name a few -- which leads to the conclusion that Xperia will likely be used as the model name for some future superphone
(the rumored P5i, perhaps?)
Sony Ericsson releasing P5i superphone mid-2008?
2.8 inch VGA display, integrated GPS, WiFi, 5 megapixel camera with autofocus, HSUPA (yes, UPA, not DPA), and 128MB of RAM on board
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/11/14/sony-ericsson-releasing-p5i-superphone-mid-2008/
(http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/11/se-p5i-concept.jpg)

or as a new series of devices in the same vein as the Walkman and Cyber-shot lines. Personally,
we're hoping Xperia stands for "world-band 3G," and looking at the company's recent efforts,
we're thinking that's not too much to ask.


Quote
Samsung to unveil i900 Windows Mobile touchscreen smartphone with 5 MP camera at Mobile World Congress?
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/16/samsung-to-unveil-i900-windows-mobile-touchscreen-smartphone-with-5-mp-camera-at-mobile-world-congress.html
(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/samsung-i900-smartphone.jpg)

The Italian mobile magazine Cellularmania is writing Samsung
will unveil the powerful and cool-lookin’ i900 smartphone at this year’s Mobile World Congress in Barcelona.
According to the Italian watermark freaks, the upcoming device will sport the huge 3.5″ 240×400 touchscreen,
GPS receiver and 5 MP camera, and will run the latest version of Microsoft’s mobile OS - Windows Mobile 6.1.
Other specs include HSDPA, WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, FM radio, TV out, 1500 mAh Li-Ion battery, and of course the microSD card slot.

As for the pre-installed applications, the Korean giant will bundle such things as the
RSS reader, Opera 9.0, MSN Messenger and some software for streaming audio and video (Silverlight?).
The size of the device - 112×56×12.5 mm… Sounds promising.
Can’t wait for the February 11th.



^^^^^^^^
Both these two looks promising,what´s do you guys think?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 17, 2008, 10:39:28 AM
both looks nice but i rather have the sony erricson...128m of ram on a phone?!? fuck it's gonna be powerfull.We'ere gonna be able to do lots of shit with it! Imagine the quality of the games that we're gonna be able to play on it! 5mp camera,wifi...what more can you ask ? lol
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 22, 2008, 05:27:26 AM
News;



Quote

New 5 megapixel Sony Ericsson device leaked

http://www.intomobile.com/2008/01/21/new-5-megapixel-sony-ericsson-device-leaked.html



With Mobile World Congress coming up in exactly 3 weeks we’re going to see

more and more leaks coming out from people who have absolutely no restraint when it comes to keeping secrets.

This new 5 megapixel Sony Ericsson device is supposed to have a 16 million color QVGA (320×240) screen,

a first for Sony Ericsson.

While it will not have a Xenon flash like it’s older brother the K850i,

at least we get a regular looking dpad and T9 keyboard.

(remember the dreadful dpad on SE K850;?)

SE K850´s D-pad;  :P :-\ >:(

(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/k850_3.jpg)

Not digging the color scheme, :-[ but knowing SE there will be other variants.

No word as to which bands this device supports.



[Via: Slashphone]



(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/1210887_080121_se_kxxx_447.jpg)

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/1210887_080121_se_kxxx_447_01.jpg)

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/1210887_080121_se_kxxx_447_02.jpg)

(http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/1210887_080121_se_kxxx_447_03.jpg)




^^^^^^^

Finally a 5MP model from SE with normal keys and D-Pa.  ;) :laugh:

But what´s up with the cyan color?

Someone fire whoever in charge of the
color designs over at SE at the moment.  :-X :-\ :P......

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_kxxx_with_gps_in_the_wild-news-412.php
claims that it also packs GPS!;

Quote
Sony Ericsson Kxxx with GPS in the wild
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_kxxx_with_gps_in_the_wild-news-412.php

Obviously Sony Ericsson are in for a major announcement with a spanking new K-series Cyber-shot handset that is obviously loaded with goodies. The Chinese-based website pconline.com.cn has revealed details and live photos of the device.

Since there are a lot of comments going around if this phone is a Chinese fake, we can assure you that it's the real deal, as we've seen an actual working prototype of the device - and it even had that same gross color on.

Styled in a conservative form factor and a rather controversial color combo (read: we are not buying it), the new K-series handset sports a 3 megapixel auto focus camera (it's not a 5 megapixel one, trust us) and a dual-LED flash. But that's not all that this handset is about.

This new puppy will be among the first Sony Ericsson handsets to feature a built-in GPS receiver (remember Sony Ericsson W760, right?). The software part of the GPS navigation is ensured by the Location Services menu we also saw in the Sony Ericsson W890, which includes applications such as Google Maps, Favorite places, etc. This time however the menu has an even expanded functionality in order to make the most out of the integrated GPS receiver.

 The new Sony Ericsson handset will be positioned somewhere above Sony Ericsson K770 and Sony Ericsson K850. If you ask us though it looks rather reminescent of some older Sony Ericsson T-series handsets, so maybe a T-series designation will be more like it.

We are yet to see the real announcement of the device somewhere in the near future - perhaps in the beginning of February just as last year.

And since it's obviously SE leaks time, here's a video ad that shows another unannounced Sony Ericsson phone - the Sony Ericsson Z660, thanks to justamp.blogspot.com




Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on January 22, 2008, 05:33:00 AM
ayo tusken i just got my new samsung blackjack ii. hook it up with some programs!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 22, 2008, 06:07:26 AM

ayo tusken i just got my new samsung blackjack ii. hook it up with some programs!



NEW, IMPROVED BLACKJACK™ II EXCLUSIVELY FROM AT&T!

http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/blackjack2/

(http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/blackjack2/images/Samsung_BlackJack2_lp.jpg)








www.getjar.com the ultimate site for applications.

Another application that comes handy is

www.nav4all.com for your build in GPS. FREE! it works just fine  ;)

www.mig33.com got a good IM client. FREE! for your AIM



Phone looks good;

when you have installed and tried on some applications.

Review them and post links to the ones you recomend,there´s a couple of Windows Mobile users in here.

You should cope a 8GB memory card,I know I will... got 6GB now  :P,never enough memory.  :laugh:

It´s rumored that we will see 32GB  :o cards coming around summer time.  ;D


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on January 22, 2008, 06:24:37 AM
32 gig JESUS haha i only got a 512 in this one for the moment planning on at least grabbing a gig stick for the low but i got some other purchases to make before a 6 gig stick (dreamcast vga cord + xbox 360 dvd drive are gunna eat up my wallet this month haha)

oh yeah i also found a way to watch any youtube video on my cell phone. so dope with 3G shit loads so fast. fuck the iphone.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 22, 2008, 07:07:55 AM
32 gig JESUS haha i only got a 512 in this one for the moment planning
on at least grabbing a gig stick for the low but i got some other purchases to make before a 6 gig stick
(dreamcast vga cord + xbox 360 dvd drive are gunna eat up my wallet this month haha)


Ohhh well,as soon as you start filling it up with apps and music I´m sure you want more memory.
If there´s a OS that have 3rd party applications,it´s Windows Mobile  ;) ;) :laugh: :laugh:

oh yeah i also found a way to watch any youtube video on my cell phone.

 8) 8) 8)
this site will save you some $;
http://tinytube.net/
so next time you want to check out a video or two... try this one first;

so dope with 3G shit loads so fast.
fuck the iphone.

Don´t get those Apple "fans" crazy again  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

But it´s the iphone´s UI that makes it a winner,not the features.
Anyway,you can install iphone´s UI on your phone,of course it´s a "fan" made one...  :laugh: :laugh:
(http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/images/f2f.jpg)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 22, 2008, 01:48:11 PM
the desing of the 5mp sony ericsson phone is ugly,i dont like it a bit lol  ::)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 23, 2008, 03:51:11 AM
my m700 just arrived. size isn't as bad as i feared. same with the weight.

will give more thoughts later, waiting for it to fully charge so i can play around with it
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 23, 2008, 05:32:07 AM
The design of the 5mp Sony Ericsson phone is ugly,
I dont like it a bit lol  ::)

The design on the front ain´t that bad;
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/se_kxxx1.jpg)

but the cyan color (even on the keys  >:() :puke: and saphire blue d-pad  :puke: WTF is going on?
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/se_kxxx2.jpg)

The back looks like shit....  :puke:
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/se_kxxx3.jpg)

But I don´t think the design is aimed at us  :laugh: :laugh:...
It looks like a budget 5MP for kids.




My m700 just arrived.
Size isn't as bad as i feared.
Same with the weight.
will give more thoughts later,waiting for it to fully charge so i can play around with it.


Nice  ;)
Bundy just got himself a WM phone too,he´s a little applications freak.  ;)
So he will probably come with tons of apps hook ups.  ;D
Notice that he got WM6 standard and you got WM5 pro/pocket PC. (or was they nice and gave you WM6?)
WM7 is not coming before 2009,you can see screen shots of it on the previous page,looks nice.
 
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 23, 2008, 11:45:59 AM
just been testing it out. pretty cool. still trying to get a hang of this whole windows mobile

having trouble getting the wireless working at the moment
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 24, 2008, 04:10:19 AM
came with windows mobile 6 though  ;D
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 24, 2008, 08:09:54 AM
The design of the 5mp Sony Ericsson phone is ugly,
I dont like it a bit lol  ::)

The design on the front ain´t that bad;
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/se_kxxx1.jpg)

but the cyan color (even on the keys  >:() :puke: and saphire blue d-pad  :puke: WTF is going on?
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/se_kxxx2.jpg)

The back looks like shit....  :puke:
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/se_kxxx3.jpg)

But I don´t think the design is aimed at us  :laugh: :laugh:...
It looks like a budget 5MP for kids.




My m700 just arrived.
Size isn't as bad as i feared.
Same with the weight.
will give more thoughts later,waiting for it to fully charge so i can play around with it.


Nice  ;)
Bundy just got himself a WM phone too,he´s a little applications freak.  ;)
So he will probably come with tons of apps hook ups.  ;D
Notice that he got WM6 standard and you got WM5 pro/pocket PC. (or was they nice and gave you WM6?)
WM7 is not coming before 2009,you can see screen shots of it on the previous page,looks nice.
 

i told you it's ugly  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Matty on January 24, 2008, 05:09:33 PM
excited about a SE with GPS and a good camera. should be dope. the k850 has had a whole load of software issues (although a big part of it seems to be the vodafone modding) and the w910i is even worse. im shocked to say that im actually reccomending the n95 8gb at the mo to people as its had pretty much 0 problems :0
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 25, 2008, 04:14:34 AM
came with windows mobile 6 though  ;D

Nice,then you're set for the future.
Did you get your WLAN working?
I remember I had some problems too when I had a WM5 pro device for test a couple of weeks.
With WM5 standard however,there was no problems.
Maybe Matty can help you out?



The k850 has had a whole load of software issues

Well,I subscribe to the www.Esato.com boards RSS feeds.
There seems to be a overall software problem with SE's new version of the A1/200 OS.
So you can't blame Vodafone for everything.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
The first versions of Symbian 3.0 was a buggy too,remember SE P990?
Symbian 3.1 seems to be stabile,my N82 is little slow but that's it.


Im shocked to say that im actually reccomending the N95 8gb at the mo to people as its had pretty much 0 problems :0

Yep,I´m suprised myself when I bought N95....
I had been loyal to Ericsson since GH388,they was WAY ahead the competion when it came to new features.
Motorola was first Tri-band I believe,they was even early with GPRS in their phones.
But their UI has always been their weakest point.
Siemens tried their best too,but again the UI sucked....
LG,never cared for them.....
What happend to Panasonic?
Ohhh well back to Nokia,their S40 was too simple and the phones had hardly any killer features.
On the other hand the design for their Symbian devices was  :-X :P :-[
Remember 3650?  :-\ :-X :-[ :P :laugh:
(http://www.mobile-review.com/review/image/nokia/3650/pic1.jpg)

While SE already had a killer OS (A100) and features for their small JAVA devices with nice classic design.
Sure joining forces with Sony helped,but they didn´t add anything but a strong brand name for a long time.
But at the moment SE is sleeping and a little behind with the latest features,hope they step their game up....
Because right now Nokia and HTC run the "killer phones" game,packing their phones with "must have" features.  :laugh:



Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on January 25, 2008, 04:16:57 AM
came with windows mobile 6 though  ;D

Nice,then you're set for the future.
Did you get your WLAN working?
I remember I had some problems too when I had a WM5 pro device for test a couple of weeks. With WM5 standard however,there was no problems.
Maybe Matty can help you out?


does the samsung blackjack ii have wifi? it's windows mobile 6
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 25, 2008, 04:23:15 AM
got the wlan working. there was a power save feature enabled in the wifi settings, turning that off did the trick.

Quick question, downloaded opera mini onto my laptop, got the sync with the phone working. opera mini files are .cod and .alx

how do i install these? laptop doesnt recognize a program to open it with


on a sidenote regarding the pda, its pretty cool. Qwerty pad is great. the camera on it sucks and the phone does have a lot of problems with lagging. i think that only occurs when the wifi is turned on though. probably because it came with a lot of pre installed programs that take up ram. a quick reset push will have it running back as it should though

Memory:

Storage

Total : 57.32
In Use : 28.45
Free : 28.87 mb

Program

Total : 47.46
In Use : 25.51
Free : 21.95 mb

those decent numbers? noticed youtube wont stream on it. zshare and other sites that can use windows media work fine though
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: G.O.D. Pt. III on January 25, 2008, 04:24:33 AM
got the wlan working. there was a power save feature enabled in the wifi settings, turning that off did the trick.

Quick question, downloaded opera mini onto my laptop, got the sync with the phone working. opera mini files are .cod and .alx

how do i install these? laptop doesnt recognize a program to open it with


on a sidenote regarding the pda, its pretty cool. Qwerty pad is great. the camera on it sucks and the phone does have a lot of problems with lagging. i think that only occurs when the wifi is turned on though. probably because it came with a lot of pre installed programs that take up ram. a quick reset push will have it running back as it should though

Memory:

Storage

Total : 57.32
In Use : 28.45
Free : 28.87 mb

Program

Total : 47.46
In Use : 25.51
Free : 21.95 mb

those decent numbers? noticed youtube wont stream on it. zshare and other sites that can use windows media work fine though

yo monotone there are programs that let you stream youtube. you should google for it. i'm on a blackjack ii with windows mobile 6 and i can watch youtube on it after a quick visit to google
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 25, 2008, 05:20:18 AM
tusken you got aim?
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 25, 2008, 07:42:45 AM
Ha,ha Bundy I was sure you had tweaked your phone to death by now.  :laugh:
Hmmm,WLAN is almost a standard WM device feature.
But I checked the specs on the link I posted on the previous page and WLAN was NOT listed.
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/blackjack2/

Quote
NEW, IMPROVED BLACKJACK™ II EXCLUSIVELY FROM AT&T!
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/blackjack2/
(http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/blackjack2/images/Samsung_BlackJack2_lp.jpg)

Features & Benefits
Microsoft Windows Mobile 6 standard — stay connected with calendar, email, to-do list and more
Tri-band HSDPA/quad-band EDGE world phone — work from virtually anywhere at 3G speeds including Japan and South Korea**
Large 2.4" 65K TFT display screen — enjoy easier reading with the large display
Integrated GPS — find your next destination quickly with TeleNav Maps or TeleNav GPS Navigator™
Wireless email support for Microsoft Direct Push, Good® Mobile Messaging and Xpress Mail
Microsoft Office Mobile® — access Word®, Excel®, or view PowerPoint® files
2.0 megapixel camera and video recorder — capture and share great moments
Stereo Bluetooth® 2.0 connectivity — experience true hands-free communication
Embedded Mobile Instant Messenger supporting Yahoo!®, AOL®, and Windows Live™
AT&T Video & AT&T Music — stream music and video in real time
Video Share Calling — talk on the phone and share live video instantly
Embedded RSS Reader Client — customize news feeds direct to your device
QWERTY keyboard with front jog wheel


It should be on your start screen,however WM got several start screens to choose from.  ;D
-Go to settings
-Choose start screen options
-I believe "standard" got  WLAN in the start screen UI.
WM is perfect for you Bundy,you can tweak it to DEATH.
The few things uou could and did with your Razr is NOTHING!


Windows Mobile downloads,Search, purchase, and download third-party applications for Windows Mobile PDAs.
http://www.handango.com/cng/pc


Bundy maybe you should sign up here;
(http://forums.windowsforum.org/style_images/frosty/logo4.gif)
http://forums.windowsforum.org/index.php?s=2d719ad1559befca95f55f113d74c145&act=home








tusken you got aim?

Nope,I´m one of those old school fucks that hardly know what a computer is,cell phones on the other hand  :laugh: :P.
But you´re not the first one asking,so I might step my game up.  ;)


The lagging issue;
-CLOSE down the apps you don't need handy.
They keep running in the background,until you CLOSE them.
However,I believe there's a 3rd party application available that close them down for you automaticilly.
Why this ain't a STANDARD feature is beyond me.  :P :P
Delete all the pre-installed shit you don't need,if you need them back just reboot.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 25, 2008, 09:11:23 AM
News

Quote
YouTube launches new and improved mobile site for cellphones
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/youtube-launches-new-and-improved-mobile-site-for-cellphones/
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2007/06/youtube-mobile-n76.jpg)

There's certainly no shortage of ways to get your
YouTube fix on the go
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/tag/youtube
but it looks like those options just got a whole lot bigger, as the company today launched a newly expanded mobile website that provides access to "most" of YouTube's catalog on any capable mobile device.
That's quite the improvement over the version of the site that
launched last year
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/06/16/verizon-exclusivity-ends-youtube-mobile-opens-the-gates/
which was also open to any device but only provided a select few hand-picked videos. What's more, the new site will also let users log into the site and personalize things a bit and, just as importantly, users will also now be able to upload videos straight to the site from their mobile device of choice. Of course, while the service itself may be free (and even without ads, for now), all that data floating about most definitely is not, and YouTube kindly provides a hard-to-miss warning about that before you're even allowed to enter the site.
If that doesn't deter you, however, you can hit up
m.youtube.com
and watch your productivity hit the floor.



Quote
Mobile YouTube Beta already out
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/YouTube%20for%20Mobile.jpg)(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/YouTube%20for%20Mobile.jpg)

YouTube has announced its first beta version of the client for mobile devices. Using YouTube for Mobile users will be able to access video content on YouTube directly from their smartphones or communicators and enjoy most of YouTube's options: accounts, search, favorites, playlists, comments. The application also provides access to the portal's finest and most popular video clips, and more importantly, enables the user to upload videos from mobile device onto YouTube..

As of today, the bet version is available only for select models: Nokia N73, N95, E65, 6110 Navigator, 6120 Classic, and Sony Ericsson K800, W880. If you are a lucky owner of one of these,
then feel free to download your YouTube for Mobile client here.
http://pl.youtube.com/yt_mobile_app


or  try www.tinytube.net
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 25, 2008, 09:30:48 AM
3650 is a ugly ass phone! one of the worst desing i ever saw on a cell phone. Yo Bundy you got a kick ass phone!!! i like those samsung!  8) Thank Tusken for that mobile youtube site!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 26, 2008, 10:14:34 AM
I do close the programs, i go to ram and stop the running afterwards too, even disable wi fi but even still it starts to lag till i reset then its fine

once i connect via wifi the lagging comes back into play its odd
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 26, 2008, 10:49:58 AM
I do close the programs.
I go to ram and stop the running afterwards too,
even disable wi fi but even still it starts to lag till I reset then its fine once i connect via wifi the lagging comes back into play its odd

Definiatly strange,but the lagging issue has been a issue for a while on
ALL smart phones because the apps stay open until you close them.
The multi tasking feature is supposed to be one of the "main" advantages opposed to the "dum" phones.
That said SE´s "dum" phones as been able to multi task since SE K800.
But it´s indeed strange that you have to reset your phone to get it "going" again,
that in some ways make your WIFI feature a little useless  :P
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 26, 2008, 01:59:01 PM
News!

Quote
Sony Ericsson HGE-100 GPS Enabler
(http://i.fosfor.se/i07/070614_3c.jpg)

Out of all the press material we got from Sony Ericsson today, this is by far the most interesting product. It’s a tiny GPS enabler that can be used to give all Sony Ericsson phones from Here’s the most interesting product from Sony Ericsson from K800 and onwards that have Java support. That basically means that you can buy a Sony Ericsson HGE-100 GPS Enabler and instantly get GPS on your old phone. That is really, really cool! I guess the product development guys over at Nokia has to start sweating again…


Official information from Sony Ericsson:

The HGE-100 GPS Enabler

1. Find your way

Navigation with voice and text commands

1. Stay on track

‘Tracker’ GPS sports application records training sessions and analyses performance

1. Add flexibility

Compatible with many Sony Ericsson phones. Plugs in and doubles as a stereo portable handsfree.

The HGE-100 is the first personal GPS navigator that is built-in to a Stereo Portable Handsfree. This gives you the flexibility to decide when you want GPS on your phone. Plug it into your phone when you wish, use it as a handsfree to control calls and music or switch to GPS mode when you want to find your way.

Find yourself anywhere
However you are travelling, the HGE-100 will navigate you anywhere thanks to the navigation solution which is included with the product. You can choose between voice or text commands, and it’s simple to navigate the graphical, icon-based display. It can save destinations so that you don’t have to repeat your commands if you go somewhere more than once, and you can search your destination by address, person, company and even local points of interest.

Keep on track
Use the GPS Enabler as your personal trainer by using the ‘Tracker’ GPS sports application installed within the HGE-100. It monitors your speed, distance, route and calorie burn, recording and analysing data so you can monitor your progress. Because the HGE-100 gives you full control of your phone’s media player, you can enjoy music or the radio while working out and, if your run takes you further than you intended, you can always navigate your way back home if you need to.

A great team player
Flexible, lightweight and comfortable, the GPS Enabler HGE-100 is the perfect partner for the new Sony Ericsson K530 3G phone, also announced today. There is a universal 3.5mm connector half way up the cord, so you can switch headphones for different environments if you want to. The HGE-100 is compatible with a host of recent
Sony Ericsson phones, including the popular K800 Cyber-shot™ phone.

The GPS Enabler HGE-100 will be available in selected markets from Q3 2007.

(http://i.fosfor.se/i07/070614_3b.jpg)

Powerful navigation solution
Sports Tracker application
Navigate in the car
Integrated PHF headset

In-Box*:
GPS Enabler HGE-100
PHF headset
User guide

Size of remote control: 61mm x 28mm
Weight: 47.6g incl. PHF
Colour: Black and silver
Keys: Full remote control + GPS mode selector
In-ear solution headset

Compatible with Sony Ericsson mobile phones with Java support from K800 onwards.
For complete compatibility see:
www.sonyericsson.com/accessories.


^^^^^^^
Good news for all the SE cats  8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: Monotone on January 26, 2008, 05:10:48 PM
I do close the programs.
I go to ram and stop the running afterwards too,
even disable wi fi but even still it starts to lag till I reset then its fine once i connect via wifi the lagging comes back into play its odd

Definiatly strange,but the lagging issue has been a issue for a while on
ALL smart phones because the apps stay open until you close them.
The multi tasking feature is supposed to be one of the "main" advantages opposed to the "dum" phones.
That said SE´s "dum" phones as been able to multi task since SE K800.
But it´s indeed strange that you have to reset your phone to get it "going" again,
that in some ways make your WIFI feature a little useless  :P

true. ive started removing some programs i dont need to see if it makes a difference. Thinking of removing all the gps programs too. I hear tom tom is the best for gps?

gonna see if i can solve this lagging problem. been asking users on e-ten forum about it.
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 27, 2008, 05:44:15 AM
I do close the programs.
I go to ram and stop the running afterwards too,
even disable wi fi but even still it starts to lag till I reset then its fine once i connect via wifi the lagging comes back into play its odd

Definiatly strange,but the lagging issue has been a issue for a while on
ALL smart phones because the apps stay open until you close them.
The multi tasking feature is supposed to be one of the "main" advantages opposed to the "dum" phones.
That said SE´s "dum" phones as been able to multi task since SE K800.
But it´s indeed strange that you have to reset your phone to get it "going" again,
that in some ways make your WIFI feature a little useless  :P

True.
I´ve started removing some programs i dont need to see if it makes a difference.
Thinking of removing all the gps programs too.
I hear tom tom is the best for gps?
Gonna see if i can solve this lagging problem.
Been asking users on e-ten forum about it.

I have no experince with Tom Tom or Wayfinder,but Matty used Tom Tom on his WM5 and probably do on his new one too(?)
So I let him answer this  ;)
I use www.Nav4All.com
,it´s a free GPS app and does it´s job just fine for now.....  ;)
If you find a cracked version of Tom Tom or Wayfinder for Symbian S60 3.1 you´ll make me and Tony very happy  ;)
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 28, 2008, 10:10:12 PM
News!


Quote
Skyfire browser for Windows Mobile is game changing, does Flash
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/skyfire-browser-for-windows-mobile-is-game-changing-does-flash/
(http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/2008/01/skyfirebrowser.jpg)

The Skyfire browser is set to finally bring PC-like browsing to your Windows Mobile device with crazy speeds and support for all manner of embedded content. Sure, there are ways to get Youtube and other mobile video content through proxy sites that convert on the go or with other 3rd-party applications, but this puppy does it all in one sweet and free package. Facebook and Myspace pages load up in no time, video plays in the browser, and all of this is accomplished with some server side magic on the part of the Skyfire server but is completely transparent to the user. All flavors of Windows Mobile -- 5 and 6 for both touchscreen and not -- are supported with the roadmap hinting at Symbian support in the near future. Sounds too good to be true? It is, and you don't have to just take our word for it, follow the read link to get signed up for the beta, this is something that just cannot be missed.

http://www.youtube.com/v/4mWUoxiLZFc&rel


^^^^^^^^^
A new web browser for WM......


Quote
SE Cyber-shot W61S 5-megapixel camera phone
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

Sony Ericsson will offer au KDDI subscribers a new 5-megapixel camera phone from the Cyber-shot series – W61S. This slider phone features “Exmor” CMOS matrix, the same sensor technology (analog-digital converter) from Sony’s Alpha DSLR.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/W61S_01.jpg)

The W61S can work in CDMA 1 X WIN networks supporting EV-DO Rev.A technology, and supports Bluetooth, so the user can feel free without wires. GPS-functionality enhances photo capabilities of the phone: when you take a picture, the phone records the info from the GPS-receiver about the place, and then you can see it on a PC map.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/W61S_02.jpg)

In addition to photo and GPS the new Cyber-shot phone can boast of a big widescreen 2.8” TFT VGA display, which can be used as a pocket TV display. If the this display isn’t big enough for you to share the content, the developers added a video out.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/W61S_03.jpg)

The short technical specs of the W61S:
Networks: CDMA1X WIN
Dimensions: 50x114x22 mm
Weight: 149 g
Display: 2.8” widescreen, 480x800 pixels, 262K colors
microSD storage cards
Camera: 5.11-megapixel, CMOS
Payment, music and navigation services

The pink color is  :-X,the black is ok.... it´s for Japan only,so we will not see this model around our way anyway  :laugh: :laugh:


Quote
FULLFACE 2 (SoftBank 921SH) slider with motion sensor 
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

Sharp has rolled out several models for the spring collection of SoftBank operator, the FULLFACE 2 (921SH) being one of them. The device is peculiar for a big widescreen 3.2” VGA display, which is good for watching “One-segment” digital TV. In addition the 921SH comes with motion sensor, it allows operate 3D menu or camera and orient the display (portrait or landscape) depending on its location.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/SB_921SH_1.jpg)


The short technical specs of Sharp FULLFACE 2 (Softbank 921SH):
Networks: national W-CDMA
Weight: 123 g
Main display: 3.2” (480x854), Mobile ASV LCD, 262K colors
Main camera: 3.2-megapixel, CMOS with auto focus
Video call camera: CMOS, 110 kpix
External memory: microSDHC
Connectivity: Bluetooth, IrDA

Quote
Nokia N95 Diamond Edition
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

GoldStriker International has unveiled its Nokia N95 8GB Diamond Edition smartphone. This diamond handset is plated with 18-carat white gold and coated with 325 diamonds, 3.3-carat of total weight. The company released 10 devices, each has the unique number. The smartphones come with “Concierge” international service, phonebook protection and backup (free for 1 year). The price tag for Nokia N95 8GB Diamond Edition makes up 12000 pound sterling (about 23700 US dollars).

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Nokia%20N95%208GB%20Diamond.jpg)

^^^^^^^^
 :P :P :P :-X :-X :-X :-X :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on January 28, 2008, 10:37:11 PM
i like the design of the sony erricson but japan only kinda suck lol
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: swangin and bangin on January 28, 2008, 10:44:28 PM
yo cell phone niggas!!

i need yo help

game me up on tmobile phones
i need one thats dependable, has email and internet, and a full keyboard. it needs to work with Tmobile.
and bluetooth, and i want to be able to download ringtones from my computer.
pink phone would be a plus but if it aint its koo,

HOLLA!
Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on January 28, 2008, 11:13:05 PM
yo cell phone niggas!!

i need yo help

game me up on tmobile phones
i need one thats dependable, has email and internet, and a full keyboard. it needs to work with Tmobile.
and bluetooth, and i want to be able to download ringtones from my computer.
pink phone would be a plus but if it aint its koo,

HOLLA!


Well,these two is the only ones I recomend....
They both got Windows Mobile,Bundy,Monotone and Matty got WM phones too....
So they can help you with whatever you need when you´re set.


Quote
T-Mobile Wing™
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/detail.aspx?tp=tb2&device=acc8102d-4506-4eaa-bc2f-9c7b8ec1b1e0
(http://www.t-mobile.com/images/products/Tmobile_Wing_myfaves/250x270.jpg)

Stay connected with the T-Mobile Wing, a powerful phone with a touch screen and slide out keyboard that lets you take the strength of your desktop with you.Suggested retail   $449.99
Instant discount   -$100.00
Mail-in rebate   -$50.00
$299.99

Feature   Description
Windows Mobile®   Familiar and easy to use Windows Mobile® experience
Built-in QWERTY Keypad   With the built-in keypad, you can type messages easily.
GPRS/EDGE and Wi-Fi enabled*   Access fast, wireless connections from anywhere on the T-Mobile USA network.
2.0 megapixel camera   Take high-quality pictures from your phone that you can enlarge or print
E-mail*   Send and receive e-mail messages on your phone.
myFaves capable*   Get unlimited any-network calling to any 5 people with a myFaves plan.
Voice-activated functions   Control your phone with your voice.
Micro SD memory slot   Add more memory for multimedia files, data, and more.
Bluetooth® wireless technology   Lose the wires and keep your hands free for more important things – Bluetooth lets you connect your phone to your headset or computer wirelessly.
Video camera   Capture short video clips to keep for yourself or share with friends and family.
Picture messaging*   Send pictures from your phone to others.
Real web browsing*   Get more pages and better Web content delivered efficiently to your phone.
Instant messaging: Yahoo!®, MSN®, and AOL®*   Send and receive instant messages with Yahoo!, MSN, or AOL.
Quad-band world phone (850/900/1800/1900 MHz) Use this phone in any of the countries where T-Mobile provides GPRS service.
Text messaging*   The quick, quiet way to stay connected.
Speakerphone   Put down the phone and keep talking with a convenient speakerphone.
Wireless calendar synchronization with Outlook    Wirelessly synchronize the calendar on your phone with the one in Outlook on your desktop.
Windows Media® Player Windows Media Player lets you play audio and video files u download from the Internet or receive over e-mail.
MegaTones®, Wallpaper & Download new games,sounds and voices from hot artists,instrumental versions of songs,and wallpapers.



Quote
T-Mobile Dash
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/phones/Detail.aspx?device=f164419f-eee9-4cf6-a1bd-070dbe4b5023
(http://www.t-mobile.com/images/products/tmobile_dash_myfaves/250x270myfaves.jpg)

A sleek Windows Mobile® Smartphone to keep you connected and is comfortable to hold. Connect with all your e-mail easily. View and share photos, videos, and attachments or browse the Web. Suggested retail   $349.99
Instant discount   -$200.00
Mail-in rebate   -$50.00
$99.99


BasicsSize:   4.4 x 2.5 x 0.5 inches
Weight:   4.2 ounces
Included battery:   Li-Ion
Talk time:   up to 5 hours
Standby time:   up to 9 days
Band (frequency):   850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz

Included Accessories
Hands-Free Headset
Case
USB Cable
AC Adaptor
Battery


Top Phone Features
Messaging
Text messaging*
Instant messaging: Yahoo!®, MSN®, and AOL®*
Fun
1.3 Megapixel camera
Windows Media® Player
Video capture/playback
Communication
Easily synch w/ Microsoft Outlook
Built-in QWERTY Keypad
myFaves capable*
Stereo Bluetooth® wireless technology
Information
Real web browsing*
GPRS/EDGE and Wi-Fi enabled*
Micro SD memory slot
Voice-activated dialing
Assistants
Windows Mobile®
Speed dial


Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on February 02, 2008, 05:42:10 AM
News

Quote
Build-to-order zzzPhone is, well, something
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/02/05/build-to-order-zzzphone-is-well-something/
(http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/photos/btophone.jpg)

Now this is an interesting concept we can’t believe we haven’t seen before. Well, we have a little bit, but not like this. USA’s zzzPhone lets you customize your next mobile phone like you might customize a computer: you choose a base model, then add the screen, camera, and other features as you see fit.

The dual-SIM, GSM handsets can accomidate cameras up to 7-Megapixels, 4GB of internal memory, TV tuners, Skype, and other hotness that you won’t find on most phones. They can run Windows Mobile or “equivalent” operating systems, whatever that means.

They start at $150, and are available for configuration now.

^^^^That shit is crazy,now you can build your own "ultimate" phone ^^^^damn that´s tight.
Check their site out here;
http://www.zzzphone.com/index.php


Quote
Opera previews new version of mobile browser
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/O_cnn_entertainment.JPG)(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/O_menu_options.JPG)

Today, the popular web browser maker Opera the commercial release of its latest mobile version – 9.5, which offers a “desktop-like browsing experience”. Version 9.5 has a completely new user interface, users can pan, and zoom in on web pages. A new feature, which is supported by version 9.5, is Opera widgets -  which are basically small web programs running outside of the browser, widgets can 'float' around the screen. Version 9.5 should be faster than ever, due to the fact that 9.5 utilises Opera's Presto rendering engine, in order for 9.5 to achieve desktop-like browsing speed.

Also new to 9.5 is support for Flash Lite, as well as users having the option of sending web pages and text via SMS or MMS. Opera have claimed that their browser is somewhat faster than Windows Mobile's Internet Explorer. Opera mobile 9.5 will be available for Linux, Windows Mobile, and the UIQ platform. All in all the developers promise to bring the following features in the latest release:
Tabbed browsing
Improved text wrap
Page overview, zooming and panning
Landscape mode
Save Web page for future offline access
Call phone number from Web page
Send link as SMS/MMS
Send image as SMS/MMS
Small Screen Rendering™
Password manager
Web address input auto-completion
History and bookmarks
Copy text
Opera Widgets

^^^^^should be dope  ;) ^^^


Quote
Samsung G810 – the G800 gone smart
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/samsung-g810.jpg)


Unwiredview.com has dug out technical specifications for Samsung’s impending G810.While its feature packed G800 was released just over two months ago, now they are set to announce the G810 at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, next week. The G810 combines everything the G800 has, and packs in Symbian 9.2 OS with S60 3.1, on-board GPS, Wi-Fi, and a bigger battery (1200mh).

Technical specifications:
GSM/UMTS/3.6 Mbps HSDPA connectivity
Symbian 9.2 OS with S60 3.1 UI
2.6" 262K Color QVGA TFT display
5 megapixel camera with 3x optical zoom, anti-shake, face recognition, macro mode, autofocus
150 MB of memory and microSD memory card slot
GPS navigation
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, USB 2.0 (microUSB connector)
1200 mAh battery
Dimensions: 104x52.9x18 mm

^^^ about the same specs as Nokias N95. ^^^^^


Quote
Sanyo W62SA: waterproof with a hinge display
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/W62SA.jpg)

The spring collection of au KDDI operator has been extended with a Sanyo clamshell phone W62SA. This is a waterproof phone, which complies with IPX5, IPX7 standards. It features a hinge display revolving in two directions, so you can adjust it for watching “one-segment” TV-programs.

In addition the W62SA comes with an FM-tuner, which can communicate music from the phone to home and car audio systems. It also supports “au Smart Sports Run&Walk’ sport package.

The short specs of Sanyo W62SA:
Dimensions: 51x106x19.5 mm
Weight: 158 g
Main display: 2.8” widescreen, IPS (In-Plane Switching) 240x400 pixels
External display: 0.6” 96x16 pixels
Camera: 2-megapixel, auto focus
Memory: about 100 MB onboard, microSD cards (up to 2 GB)
Connectivity: USB, Bluetooth, IrDA
Navigation services


Quote
Toshiba SoftBank 921T – waterproof, hinge display, TV-tuner
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/SB_921T.jpg)

It has become a tradition with many Japan’s handset makers to give names of big TV brands to mobile displays and phone image processing systems. For example, Toshiba has equipped its new 921T handset (announced yesterday by SoftBank operator) with a widescreen OLED display called “REGZA”.

This clamshell phone has a waterproof shell, which complies with IPX5, IPX7 standards. Its hinge display can be revolving in two directions. The 921T comes with a TV-tuner receiving “one-segment” digital TV-programs, specially designed for mobile devices.

The short specs of Toshiba 921T:
National networks only - W-CDMA with HSPDA (up to 3.6 Mbps)
Dimensions: 51x106x19.4 mm
Weight: 132 g
Display: 2.8” widescreen, 240x400 pixels
microSD cards (up to 2 GB)
Main camera: 3.24-megapixel, auto focus, image stabilizer
Camera for video calls: CMOS, 320-kpix
Connectivity: Bluetooth (stereo sound), IrDA
Navigation and payment services
Terrestrial TV programs


Quote
Details on Glofiish V900 from E-Ten’s chief
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml
(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Glofiish%20V900(1).jpg)

We’ve already mentioned an upcoming E-Ten product – Glofiish V900 communicator, which will be announced at Mobile World Congres in Barcelona next month. A fortnight back E-Ten posted a teaser image of the communicator unveiling the support of digital TV in DVB-H, DVB-T, T-DMB и DAB formats.

This time company’s chief Hwang Shan-rong has shed light on some capabilities of it. Reportedly, the communicator is powered by Windows Mobile 6 Professional running on Samsung 667 MHz processor. The device features 3G networks (with HSDPA), a 3.2-megapixel camera for photo capture, a frontal camera for video calls. We expect other details at Mobile World Congress.


Quote
Mozilla Mobile browser - more details available
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml


Some of our past news items featured the impending Mozilla Mobile browser, which was being developed by the company, however no real facts had been out and about. Thankfully, some tidbits have made it to the Web - it turns out they already have two UI prototypes. The former is meant for devices with no touch-screen displays, and rather includes an on-screen pointer, so that the user can move about web pages via a conventional keypad.

(http://www.mobile-review.com/sadm_files/Mozilla%20Mobile1.jpg)

The other UI is tweaked for handsets enjoying touch-sensitive screens, and allows for finger-based navigation without requiring you to hold a stylus pen, which is a buzzed ability these days.

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Apart from that, both UIs support tabbed web-browsing, page scaling, and an array of other features making for easy and convenient browsing sessions on a mobile device's tiny screen. As the developers claim, their arch-goal is to get the mobile version of the browser as close to its desktop counterpart as possible. We'll see how  far they will go in this when the browser is released into the wild some time during the second half of 2008.


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SE’s patent for transformer phone
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

The US Patent Office has got a patent application from Sony Ericsson. The project describes a mobile phone with two detachable connected housings. The idea can be implemented in a clamshell, slider or a rotator-type phone. The phone consists of two parts: the one with the keypad and the battery (GPS-receiver and camera can go in there too) and the other with the display, some buttons and another battery. Both housings communicate with each other via Bluetooth. The developers believe such design serves two opposite goals – while being compact, it provides a convenient hardware keypad. That is, you can use only the display housing and the rest of the phone put deep in your bag. Besides you can joint two parts with the main display on the inside or outside of phone, when closed.

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nuvifone: Garmin’s GPS-phone
http://www.mobile-review.com/fullnews/main/index_eng.shtml

Garmin has announced its first mobile phone called nuvifone. Naturally, being a Garmin product it must have GPS-functionality. The nuvifone is a compact device with full touch control: a 3.5” display occupies most of the front panel and leaves no room for a keypad. The device features 3G support (HSDPA), Internet browser, built-in camera, which can tag coordinates to the image info, and media player (MP3, MPEG4/AAC). It comes with the preinstalled maps of America and Europe, vast database of POI, Google local search and Garmin Online service providing online info on road situation, news, weather forecast and so on.

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The sales of Garmin nuvifone are scheduled for 3Q 08. The price hasn’t been unveiled yet.

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Disappointed with your Windows Mobile handset's stereo performance? Crank up your speakers with SRS WOW plugin
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/02/01/disappointed-with-your-windows-mobile-handsets-stereo-performance-crank-up-your-speakers-with-srs-wow-plugin.html
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Windows Mobile handsets (most, if not all) come with “stereo speakers” nowadays. The thinking is that you’ll be able to rock-out to your Windows Mobile smartphone without the need to don some cumbersome headphones (earbuds, earphones, whatever). The sad reality is that the stereo speakers on most WinMo devices are placed to close together to project any real sense of “stereo” in the audio-field. What you get is incredibly flat, mono-sounding music from your cellphone. And that’s the other thing, the music sounds flat because there’s not enough definition, bass, treble, etc.

Enter the SRS WOW audio-enhancing plugin. With this handy-dandy little plugin, you’ll be able to squeeze Hi(er)-Fi sound from your WM device. SRS WOW allows you to control things like the “loudness,” definition, focus, bass, and even the center channel. But, the best part feature of the SRS WOW plugin is that it allows you to adjust the “SRS 3D Effect” - which essentially tweaks your audio output to give the impression that your stereo speakers are further apart than they really are. This feature is commonly known as “stereo widening” or “stereo separation.” If you’ve ever messed around with the Nokia N95’s audio setting, you’ll know what we’re talking about here.

Imagine that, stereo-sounding audio from your stereo speaker. Just remember to change your audio setting when you use headphones - there’s a special setting for that.

SRS WOW won’t endow your WinMo handset with the same audio-prowess as the N95 (it’s got damn fine audio-performance, by the way), but hey, it’s better than the crap-audio you’re dealing with now.

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Grab SRS WOW here:
Windows Mobile (Standard/non-touchscreen)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1792104&postcount=33
Windows Mobile (Pro/touchscreen)
http://www.winmobiletech.com/012008SRSWOWHD/SRS_WOWHD_ARM.rar

Download the file, unarchive the CAB file, then install it directly from your Windows Mobile device. Reboot your device and you’ll find your SRS WOW plugin under Start / Settings / System / WOW HD Settings.


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Mobile social network Mig33's raises some serious cash to make feature phones more powerful
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/02/01/mobile-social-network-mig33s-raises-some-serious-cash-to-make-feature-phones-more-powerful.html
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www.Mig33.com convinced its existing investors — Accel, Redpoint and TVP — to pour out additional money (Series B) along with DCM which lead the deal, into the mobile social network. The company will use the whooping $13.5 million to expand in the U.S. and internationally.

Those not familiar should know www.Mig33.com works via dedicated Java-based mobile application, which goes beyond the usual profiles and friending features, and also includes some of the smartphone’s standard features like VoIP calls, instant messaging, e-mail, text messaging, and picture sharing. In some markets, like South Africa, www.Mig33.com even sell calling cards.

At the moment, www.Mig33.com has over 9 million users across more than 200 countries, which sign on for more than a total of 2 million sessions and send more than 45 million messages each day. As for the image sharing, Mig33’s users send more than a million pictures to each other every month…



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Nokia's N82 now in black -- $629 unlocked
http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/06/nokias-n82-now-in-black-629-unlocked/
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After having scooped the world with the first press shots of the N82 in silver,
Intomobile brings us the first shots of the N82 in black.
Nothing else is new.
Then again,with a 5 megapixel camera,xenon flash,Carl Zeiss glass and quad-band GSM with HSDPA data,
assisted GPS, 802.11b/g WiFi, Bluetooth, FM Tuner, 3.5-mm jack, microSD slot, and 2.4-inch auto-rotating display...
is there anything you're missing?
Oh right, HSDPA on US frequencies would be damn nice if Nokia hopes to grow their domestic presence.
$629 is the unlocked cost, but hey, shipping is free.


^^^^^ damn I want to the black one looks better,don´t you think Tony? ^^^

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Still waiting to upgrade your AT&T 8525 to Windows Mobile 6.0? You still have time.
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/02/05/still-waiting-to-upgrade-your-att-8525-to-windows-mobile-60-you-still-have-time.html
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If you still haven’t upgraded your AT&T 8525 to the newer Windows Mobile 6.0 ROM, you still have time - luckily. You see, HTC and AT&T offered up the free upgrade
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/10/31/htc-announces-windows-mobile-60-upgrade-for-att-8525.html
So, if you’ve been lagging on bringing back your device’s fresh and clean (install, that is) feeling, you just lucked out. It seems the download deadline has been lifted. AT&T 8525 customers will now have until this coming Halloween to download the AT&T 8525 Windows Mobile 6.0 Professional ROM upgrade.
http://www.intomobile.com/2007/10/31/htc-announces-windows-mobile-60-upgrade-for-att-8525.html


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Nokia Aeon on eBay - say what?
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/02/05/nokia-aeon-on-ebay-say-what.html
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A Nokia Aeon
http://www.intomobile.com/2006/10/13/nokias-phone-of-the-future-aeon.html
is on sale on eBay? Riiight. Let’s all whip out our PayPal accounts and bid this auction up. The Nokia Aeon was going for just $999, which is a steal, considering that the handset is a Nokia concept and nothing more.

If you haven’t realized by now, the Nokia Aeon auction is a fake scam con unbelievably stupid attempt to steal other people’s money. eBay has already taken the auction down, but it was funny while it lasted.

Should you ever come across and of mercerwholesaleelectroncs8888’s auctions, you would do well to steer clear. This guy’s out to get some poor suckers money. Don’t be that sucker.



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Apple kicks up iPhone storage to 16GB for $100 more
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thought I’d say this, but this is the first time that I sincerely feel like getting rid of my iPhone 8GB. It’s just not as appealing as it once was.

Calm down. The only reason I say this is because my iPhone 8GB is no longer the big-kid on the iPhone-block. You see, Apple has just updated their iPhone (and iPod Touch) lineup to include a new 16GB version of the iPhone. That means we’re going back to the two-tier iPhone system that we saw with the 4GB and 8GB iPhones.

The new iPhone 16GB (and iPod Touch 32GB) will ding your wallet for an extra C-note ($100), but for double the memory it’s a bargain (that is, if you can call $499 a bargain). And, that is exactly what makes me want to get rid of my 8GB iPhone….and grab a 16GB iPhone.

Hey Apple! Let’s get an iPhone swap program going. Pretty please?

[Update]
Prices in the UK and Germany are £329 and 499 Euros, respectively.


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Title: Re: My phone > iPhone
Post by: RAIDErs of the lost ark on February 11, 2008, 10:00:18 AM
Samsung News

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Samsung's F480 Armani (without the Armani), Dual Touch Chic G400 flip and F400 B&O slider
http://www.mobile-review.com/exhibition/2008-3gsm-samsung-en.shtml

Samsung at 3GSM Congress

So it happens that our coverages of 3GSM Congress tend to kick off with write-ups on Samsung, which is not due to some agreements we have with this manufacturer, or our sympathies – it is all about editorial savvy. The thing is, before departing for the exhibition, it is always good to take a huge load off our shoulders, knowing that we won’t have to go over the slew of Samsung’s offerings in a hurry, for this requires a great deal of concentration and cool judgment. The company has been using the Congress to roll out as many new phones as possible, year in year out, whereas other makers prefer to lift the veil of mystery step-by-step, in course of the year, although, they still have a lot of things under their belts coming to this exhibition. As far as Samsung is concerned, this approach occasionally leads to debuts of solutions that are still somewhat far off. Last year, one of the most interesting showcased devices had been the Samsung F700, which hit selected markets only by the end of 2007, while handsets clad in wood and precious metals never made it at all. Nevertheless, many handsets have actually garnered much interest on the market, and, what is curious, Samsung has even managed to get through another generation of phones, so that these days it is showing off all novelties it has up its sleeve.

This article will get expanded with photos we have taken at the maker’s booth (supposedly in the evening), and probably churn out some write-ups on the most interesting solutions – one of them, our take on the Samsung G810 is already available at our main page. Stay tuned to get the most comprehensive coverage on the event taking place in Barcelona.
Samsung’s strategy for 2008

A relatively unexpected boon in the form of the second place, in mobile phone global sales chart (all thanks to Motorola), has provoked a revision of the maker’s range and priorities. What is interesting is that, this year’s 3GSM Congress will see the same leitmotif coming from other manufacturers in one way or another – what made the headlines yesterday is taking a back seat today. Imaging capabilities in mobile phones remain vital, although, they are not mind-blowing anymore, as the next big focus is entertainment and services.

Samsung has brought a couple of things to the fore, and the first one is its portfolio that is now divided up into 4 big ranges:
Style – fashion-savvy solutions, this group also includes all flagship phones specifically those coming from the U- and F-series. At this year’s Congress, they are ushering in two products of this type – the new flagship, Samsung U900 Soul, and the Samsung F480.
Multimedia – the maker virtually divides this segment into two camps: music and imaging, which is the right thing to do, since either sub-class has its own heroes, and own solutions, basically, there are no convergent devices that pack in both top-notch music department and stellar imaging capabilities.
Business – enterprise solutions and business-minded handsets, this group comprises primarily of Windows Mobile and Symbian based devices.
Infotainment – asymmetric answer to Nokia’s N-Gage platform, and Sony Ericsson’s revitalized and re-positioned Play Now. In a nutshell, this line comprises of entertainment-ready phones, although by and large, Samsung-branded phones offer nothing beyond stock games, and other applications.

Dismissing the classification Samsung utilizes for its products, you will find another way to categorize them. For instance, they are rolling out the La Fleur 2 collection (three phones) for women at 3GSM. La Fleur aside, the maker has demoed a couple of other models designed exclusively for women and comprising the L-series. An in-depth review of the La Fleur 2 range is coming up shortly, and for now, let’s move on to other solutions.

Touchscreen-enabled phones represent another promising branch of development for the company. In this field, they are rivaling LG, although Samsung has assumed the role of the runner-up (which we investigated in our review on the Samsung F490). By the way, we got our hands on a commercial edition of the F490 and will be updating the review later this week – they have slightly altered the design, sales package and some other minor things.

Without going into detail, Samsung is planning to extend the basic segmentation with more sub-groups and specific ranges, which will make for more precise positioning, and allow for an easier target audience based marketing of phones. Now, let’s look at the maker’s main offerings and their strengths/weaknesses.

The Flagship – Samsung U900 Soul

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If you ask me which form-factor will be Samsung’s favorite when it comes to designing a new flagship, I will snap answer - slider. Having initially banked on clamshells, the company has gotten really into slider-type phones as well. The Samsung U600 was so successful that even with the negative feedback regarding its touch-sensitive buttons in mind, the maker is now rolling out a follow-up to that handset – the U900, which will be its flagship solution for the year to come. Furthermore, they want it to sell at least as well as the U600/U700, which doesn’t look impossible at all.

The newcomer is dubbed “Soul”, and there is something more than just a regular meaning to it, “Soul” is also short for “The Spirit Of Ultra”, emphasizing that it stands above all models in the Ultra Edition range.


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The handset measures up at 105.9x49.8x12.9 mm, being pretty thin for a handset coming bundled with a 5 Megapixel autofocus-enabled camera, although it doesn’t differ much from the unit installed in the Samsung G600, what we mean is that it will shoot in a similar fashion, and for the most part, won’t be able to stand up to the solutions from Nokia and Sony Ericsson. On the other hand, it is a pretty decent camera for an all-in-one device, plus it boasts a couple of software modes, like Face Detection (a self-explanatory feature) and Wide Dynamic Range (WDR) that enhances images taken in low light (sets higher ISO settings, when the U900 finds out it is very dark around). The last thing we need to note is the U900’s image stabilizer, so on paper, its won’t be too far from the imaging-savvy Samsung G810, probably with the only difference being QVGA video recording. But in reality, the G810 is definitely ahead the Samsung U900 on all fronts, as far as photography is concerned, all thanks to its real optics (not a piece of plastic found on the U900). All-in all, it is pretty much in line with the finest imaging-ready offerings from other manufacturers – I managed to do a shootout between one of the Soul's prototypes and a of Sony Ericsson's CyberShot mass-market device, sporting a similar camera, and found them to be nearly identical. So, the U900’s camera is positively one of its fortes, albeit it is not the market’s finest solution. But, this handset is relatively minuscule at that, so this camera will be more than passable, as you can’t squash a stellar unit and a bevy of other features into a very pocketable casing anyway.


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The phone’s casing features both plastic and silverish metal accents. I bet we’ll see the U900’s black edition along with other trims very soon – that’s the company’s strategy and it never backed away from it even once. But, why are they showcasing not the most spectacular silver colour scheme first? Simply because they want to focus the market’s attention on the U900’s truly metallic casing and texture. But, the truth is, all these metallic plates are not even 1mm thick, however the user won’t notice that unless he rips the handset apart.

The U900 is the market’s second device (the Samsung E950 was the pioneer) to adopt a touch-sensitive display instead of a navi-button. While it was nameless in the E950, here, the maker’s marketers have come up with quite a title for a flagship device. They call it Magic Touch by DaCP. I have no idea why they spelled the abbreviation wrong (that’s what you will find in the press-release), as it in fact stands for Dynamic Adaptive Control Panel. A multitude of terms in one name doesn’t do this solution any justice – it would’ve been better off with just “Magic Touch” without that awkward “DaCP’, since even some of Samsung’s employees can’t give this technology’s full name anyway. By the way, I spent 15 minutes trying to figure out what “DaCP” meant, and I guess it is a record of some sort.

This display renders task-relevant buttons sitting on the places of directional keys. For instance, if you are managing the music player, you will see music controls, while for browser, the display morphs to offer navigation keys. However, this screen is let down by the lack of any tactile feedback, which is a common drawback among touch-screens. Similar context aware buttons are getting implemented into solutions from other makers as well, for example, you will find a bunch of these in the Motorola ROKR E8, but mind the fact that for these purposes it employs not a dedicated display, but a preset symbol layout engraved on a plastic sub-layer.

The phone’s music department is on par with other offerings, as it utilizes the ICEpower amplifier designed by B&O, which makes for loud and clear sound. On the downside, the music player packs in no bells and whistles and doesn’t have a rainbow of features you can get with Sony Ericsson’s handsets; but it holds its own when it comes to sound. The manufacturer rates its battery life as being good for 15 hours of music, which is pretty good. The U900 also comes armed with an RDS-enabled FM-radio.

Almost forgot to mention that the display is capable of showing up to 16 million colours, plus it hides underneath a mirror-like surface, lending it a feel quite similar to the Samsung U600. All colours seemed bright and vibrant; the screen measures 2.2 inches from corner to corner and sports QVGA resolution. The U900’s display also felt quite sturdy.

The handset’s software is done pretty much in the same vein as other latest-and-greatest offerings from Samsung, though with a couple of features that the maker puts focus on. Specifically, menu themes are settling down in the feature pack, what is more, you will be able to modify them as you please (sounds, wallpapers, menu color scheme). Moreover, you will be allowed to make up your own animated screensavers stitched together from various images or photos, enhanced by a selection of effects. This feature made its first appearance with the Samsung G800 – check out a sample video demoing it in our review.

Video, user-created animated wallpapers (mpg, 17,4 mb) >>>

As regard the rest of the U900’s functionality, it supports HSDPA, comes with quad-band (European) GSM connectivity, carries a microSD memory expansion slot onboard, along with OMA DRM 2.0, RSS, Google Search, support for MTP and hence Windows Media. Also inside are Bluetooth 2.0 and USB 2.0.

On balance, the U900 is a quite decent phone, a true flagship, although not without its own weak spots, in this case – ergonomics of the touch-sensitive buttons. Nevertheless, the example of the Samsung U600’s wild success indicates that consumers aren’t put off but this quirk, so we have no reason to believe the U900 will have any problems in this sense. The phone starts shipping in March, word is it will retail for around 400 Euro.



Style range
Samsung F480 – another Armani



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They have the Samsung Armani, and here comes the Samsung F480 - a lookalike, yet it has nothing to do with the co-branding hype. Missing name of a fashion designer doesn’t make it worse or less interesting – on the contrary, in many ways it surpasses its predecessor. Measuring up at 97.9x55x11.5 mm, it boasts a 2.8-inch display, capable of 240x320-pixel resolution (QVGA). It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to guess that the F480 will come preinstalled with the next version of Croix OS, which is the system the Samsung Armani runs on. Almost all menus offer tactile feedback for every screen tap (the handset starts vibrating a little). What makes this phone interesting is its 3G connectivity, FM-radio and a 5 Megpixel autofocus-enabled camera, with an LED flash. It carries 240 Mb of inbuilt storage, which can be beefed up with microSD memory cards. As far as software is concerned, it comes with themes, RSS, and some other generic options for the latest generation of Samsung’s offerings.

This phone’s release is slotted for April or May with its price tag set to 350-400 Euro, which, however, will greatly depend on how much LG will decide to charge for its similar offering.


Samsung G400 – Dual Touch Chic

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The motto they picked for the G400, “Dual Touch Chic” is spot-on, since it stresses that both screens on this handset are touch-sensitive, plus its design is very well described with the word “chic”. Limited number of technologies and edges on the mobile phone market means they will be similar-sounding slogans and product names – for instance, HTC is offering the Touch Dual, which is its latest and greatest offering.

But the foremost thing about this folder is not a pair of touch-sensitive displays, although they seem to be its centerpiece, but its all-metal casing. Samsung has never had phones like this before, and if the G400 gets popular, they might push this concept beyond a single model. The phone’s dimensions are 102.8x51.5x15.4mm, which is what we have come to expect from a folding phone.

Frankly speaking, why would someone need another touch screen, since the only function it can handle is the music player; but it will give it a good run-through at the maker’s booth to figure out whether they have added something with the latest versions of software, or hardware. It may seem that the G400 is Samsung’s reaction to the Motorola RAZR2 V8, however they deliver such different feelings and experiences, that putting them up against one another won’t make much sense. The only thing they have in common is controls, but, that’s about it.

The internal QVGA display measures 2.2 inches diagonally and shows up to 262 K colors. The G400’s specs are no different from other Samsung’s top-of-the-line offerings, plus it retains a 5 Megapixel autofocus-enabled camera, RDS-powered FM-radio, 100 Mb of storage, and a microSD memory expansion slot.

The phone is set to launch in late April or early in May at 300 Euro.


Samsung L310 – glamorous to the core

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This handset comes from the La’Fleur 2 collections, and some of our readers are aware of it. We will be putting it through its paces in our review very soon, probably this week already. What about it? Well, the L310 was definitely designed with Nokia’s L’Amour Collection in mind, as it employs the same colour scheme with gold, black and dark-brown. In fact, it doesn’t even have an external display – by folding it open, you activate the floral ornament on the top portion of the phone.

The L310 has every last thing a women could only demand: period calendar, calories counter, shopping list, and other features. Curiously, La’Fleur offerings have never been technologically talented, making up for this with their fancy designs. This handset is no exception, as it comes equipped with a 176x220-pixel display, and a diagonal size of 1.8 inches, a 2 MegaPixel camera, and several welcome improvements in the menu. All-in-all, the L310 is more of a mixed bag, considering its design, functionality and price.


Samsung L320 – Aqua still lives

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As far as sales are concerned, the previous edition of the La’Fleur collection was topped by the Samsung E570 (Aqua), plus it turned out to have the longest lifespan. This handset stood out thanks to its quirky design, a bevy of color schemes and women’s love.

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It would have been criminal not to roll out a follow up to this device, so Samsung did the right thing. The new phone goes by the name of “L320”, but it is not all that different from its predecessor, primarily in view of having a fully-fledged vertically laid out outer display. As far as other feats and smarts go, these two are pretty much identical, with the L320 sporting a 2 MegaPixel camera, RDS-enabled FM radio, music player, and the ability to bulk the built-in storage up with microSD cards. Aren’t they twin brothers? Pardon me, sisters.

The handset is about to hit the market, and its review will become available on Mobile-Review.com after February 15.


Samsung L170 – inexpensive candy-bar with ambitions


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When slim is in, many people start being nicer to you, provided that you are a phone. While Nokia runs with its 6500 Classic, and Sony Ericsson is presenting its brand-new W890i, Samsung picks a different approach. Why do they need to enter the market with an expensive solution, when they can come up with a reasonably priced unsophisticated handset that will have all the makings of a luxury device? That’s the story of the Samsung L170 (given its index, does it aim at women? I suppose no, judging by what it has under the hood). Metallic accents in design, 10.7mm profile, radio and player onboard, but a baby display measuring 1.6 inches diagonally, landscape orientation and a resolution of 220x176 pixels (262 K colors); plus a 2 Megapixel camera added for good measure. All this makes the L170 an appealing solution with a relatively light price tag (175 Euro), and if it will go a few rungs down the pricing ladder, it will make a solid statement as a potential leader of sales charts. Look for it on the shelves in March.


Samsung J150 – The Glitter in Svelte

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You thought the L170 was the cheapest candy bar clad in metal around? Well, it is official – you were wrong. In order to congest the market and push Motorola’s SLVR out of business, Samsung is releasing a really cheap entry-level device. While it is only 9.9 mm deep, other specs are little to no different from this segment’s standards – 1.9-inch display (176x220 pixels, 65K , TFT), 1.3 Megapixel camera, FM-radio, Bluetooth and a memory expansion slot for microSD cards. Think of yourself looking at a phone with these feats a couple of years ago – you would have said “wow”, but these days it is a budget handset retailing for 120-130 Euro.

Samsung J700 – The Beauty of Black Pearl

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Who said that low-end models can’t be charming? Obviously, Samsung has a different point of view, which is the reason they have come up with an inexpensive phone showing off a mirrorish surface, and of course it comes in black. As far as its spec sheet goes, it so short that we could have easily overlooked it – the J700 retains an FM-radio, 1.3 Megapixel camera, 2-inch display (128x160 pixels), microSD memory card slot and a music player thrown in for good measure. The handset is quite compact at 99.5x48x14.9 mm. The J700’s release is scheduled for early March, and 130-140 Euro should definitely be able to buy you one.

Samsung L770 – Mobile Sophisticate

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We have just been speaking about a phone decked out in a mirriorish finish, and what do you know – another model sporting this fancy design. There is nothing special to its technical specifications, for it is a UMTS-enabled phone from the previous generation packing in a 2 Megapixel camera, radio and other default features. Basically, it is here just to diversify the maker's range, despite having a pretty high index, which is more likely to indicate the L770’s price tag and the premium its owners will pay for design. This phone will be available in a variety of colors, right from the word go.

The L770 is set to go on sale in April and be freely available for 260-280 Euro.


Samsung E251 – gear up with music

One of the market’s most popular sliders was the Samsung E250, only because it looked so much like the Samsung D900, however it didn’t every try to hide its origins, being an entry-level solution to the bone, yet packed in an FM-radio, memory expansion slot and even a VGA camera. In an effort to prolong its lifespan, Samsung has added 1 to its index, a dedicated music key and.. well, that’s pretty much it. When it hits the shelves, the E251 will go for around 120-130 Euro, which is passable. Those who want to learn more about this phone should probably read our review on the Samsung E250, thankfully, the enhancements introduced in the E251 don’t make all that much of a difference.

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Multimedia range


I won’t be covering the products of this range that have already debuted on the market, and will rather give you a handful of links to our in-depth reviews:
Samsung F490
Samsung G800
Samsung i450
Samsung F330
Samsung F250 (coming up next week)

I hope that you have put an eye on the small strange detail in the list above – it includes both music-minded solution and the imaging-heavy G800, while the maker’s new flagship is nowhere to be found. That’s because of Samsung’s new positioning model, although the G810 would have been better off in this category, rather than in the Infotainment range. The Samsung F250 opens the La’Fleur 2 line-up and turns out that it belongs to the Style class as well. This contradiction has been solved in a very straightforward way – they have rolled out two editions of the F250, the one with a fancy pattern on the casing is meant for women, whereas the other one is a music-ready offering. Moreover, to distinguish them in a big way, the maker has put tiny speakers into the F250 music edition’s box.


Samsung F400 –B&O’s music-minded marvel
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When the Serenata (or Symphoy), the fruit of Samsung’s collaboration with B&O ,saw release, everybody liked its speakers and the sound quality they delivered, which turned this quirky phone into a potent music box. But given all oddities of the Serenata and it decidedly going against the average consumer’s common sense, it can only dream of becoming widely adopted. Back in September, one of Samsung’s managers said: “Serenata offers marvelous sound, but don’t expect its components to make it to mass-market solutions, they are way too expensive”. Thankfully, his gloomy predictions haven’t come true, as we are now having the pleasure of playing around with the Samsung F400, whose music department has been taken care of by B&O’s engineers.

The F400 employs dual-slider action – sliding it down will reveal two loudspeakers plus the B&O logo. Effectively, two speakers are not a must, for the distance between them is too insignificant to allow for a “stereo effect” of any kind. In the average Joe’s mind, two is always better than one, so the F400 comes with two speakers onboard. Regardless of whether you have earphones on or not, the handset delivers good sound quality.

What about other specs of the F400? It is a 3G device sporting a 2.2-inch display, with a QVGA resolution (262K, TFT), 3 Megapixel camera, with autofocus, slot for microSD memory cards and an RDS-enabled FM-radio. The F400 arrives in late March, with a price tag of 370-390 Euro. All-in-all, it is one of the finest phones Samsung has rolled out at 3GSM – a music-centric flagship in a way.
Business range

This range primarily comprises smartphones, bu,t for some reason, the Samsung D880 DuoS has made it into their ranks. I have to confess – the review was composed long ago, but I haven’t had time to publish it so far, and we will definitely make up for that in February. In my mind, the lack of a stand-alone DuoS range, and this phone’s positioning as a one-off solution is a tribute to carriers, who find these solutions no different from a disaster. Why would Samsung tease them for no reason? And Samsung is not teasing them, but still is offering the DuoS at its booth.

As for the rest of this range, below is the list of device we have already reviewed:
Samsung i780
Samsung i550
Samsung i560
Samsung i200 –Windows Mobile gone cheap

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There is nothing special about the i200 – it is a threadbare candybar, featuring 3G connectivity, a conventional keypad, 2 Megapixel camera, Windows Mobile 6.0 Standard, and a microSD memory expansion slot. The handset also comes with an unusual screen diagonal of 2.3 inches, and QVGA resolution. The i200 is due this spring, no word on its price, but, it is said to slip below 200 Euro. Probably, some will find this solution of certain interest, as it seems to be a relatively cheap WM-powered smartphone, and its price tag is not of the least importance.
Infotainment range

The centerpiece of this range is, undoubtedly, the Samsung G810, but we won’t be writing even a word more on, the reason being that our hands-on impressions are available in a dedicated piece on this handset already today.

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This range also includes the Samsung F700 – learn more about it here.

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The Samsung F490 has received an update in the form of the SCH-W420, an offering for the Korean market that sports only a 2 Megapixel camera, yet comes bundled with mobile TV (T-DMB). This phone won’t be shipped to other regions, though.

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Another phone of note is the folder-type phone, the W350, supporting satellite DMB signal. Curiously, the maker considers this handset’s 2.2-inch diagonal suited for watching videos, and what is more, consumers nod in approval as well. In this sense, beliefs shared by some many people that 2.2, 2.4 or 2.6 inch diagonals are insufficient for video fall apart. Of course, it is always great to enjoy bigger displays, but, if there are no other options, this one will have to do.


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The last mobile TV enabled device on the agenda is the P960, boasting support for DVB-H, and housed in the slider-type form factor. At 102x53x16.5 mm, it packs in a diagonal screen size of 2.6 inches, and offers QVGA resolution. Its TV features also include PiP (picture in picture), but as for the rest, it is a typical Samsung-branded offering coming equipped with a 3 Megapixel autofocus-enabled camera, music player and other features. The question remains whether the P960 will see its commercial release, but I, for one, don’t think there is a good chance of that.

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Roundup

Effectively, at 3GSM Congress, Samsung has revealed its plans for 6-7 months to come, which include the new flagship (Samsung U900 Soul), and leaders in specific fields – the Samsung G810 and Samsung F400 (imaging and music respectively). Our avid and savvy readers shouldn’t be confused by the wealth of offerings that re-debuted at this exhibition. In fact, Samsung is the only top manufacturer that is still into CEBIT, held in Hanover. I suppose this maker has a couple of models left in stock for that fair as well, especially as far as mid-tier devices are concerned. All in all, they haven’t introduced a multitude of sliders scheduled for summer 2008, nor have they rolled out the update to the Ultra Edition range (the whole range, rather than a sole flagship), plus a couple of other lesser solutions are yet to be announced. This year should see a ton of touchscreen-enabled handsets, as well as Samsung-branded solutions, running S60, the reason being that the maker is trying to grab a bigger market chunk in Europe, and basically all markets where Motorola’s influence is now fading. It is a sound goal, so let’s wait and see how it turns out


WOW,Samsung got a gang off new phones coming  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I found this one the most interesting,check the speakers  :o
Samsung F400 –B&O’s music-minded marvel
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Nokia news

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The Nokia 6220 classic, all 5 megapixels of it
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Why should Nseries devices get all the 5 megapixel, S60-packin' fun? Nokia thinks they shouldn't, popping out the generously-spec'd 6220 classic at Mobile World Congress today. At a suggested retail of €325 (about $471), the attractive candybar slides well under the N96's hefty sticker while hanging onto a Carl Zeiss lens with a 5 megapixel sensor -- and actually outdoes its pricier cousin by adding a xenon flash. It'll also include integrated AGPS, TV out, microSD expansion, FM radio, and HSDPA 900 / 2100 alongside quadband EDGE when it becomes available in the third quarter of the year.

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The Nokia 6210 Navigator
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The Nokia Navigator is back, and this time around, it's got enough 3G to satisfy pretty much everyone. Succeeding the 6110, the 6210 Navigator slider obviously puts an emphasis on providing directions to your destination, and a few nifty features help it excel at the task. First up, it features the just-announced Nokia Maps 2.0 app, which provides pedestrian in addition to the typical auto navigation -- a logical feature, considering this thing spends much of its life in your pants, not mounted to your windshield; secondly, it sports an integrated accelerometer that can keep the map updated at a reasonable rate while you're trolling about on foot ; third, the car mount is standard fare in the retail box, along with a 1GB microSD card. The S60 Third Edition handset also features an FM radio, Bluetooth 2.0, 3.2 megapixel camera, 120MB of internal storage, and -- get this -- can be used for navigation without a SIM card. Imagine that! It'll come in no fewer than four versions -- one with EDGE only and three with various flavors of HSDPA for different corners of the world -- in the third quarter for €300 (about $435).


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The Nokia N96 redefines "high-end"
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Rumored for a few weeks now as the N95's successor in waiting, the mighty N96 dual slider has gone all official on us at Mobile World Congress today. Though the phone it replaces is still a beast by any measure, the N96 pushes the envelope further by packing a solid 16GB of storage internally in addition to a microSD slot, something the N95 8GB lacks.
The 5 megapixel autofocus camera with Carl Zeiss Tessar lens carries over,
but there are now two LEDs doing flash and video light duty.
The 2.8 inch QVGA display will come in handy for the integrated DVB-H mobile TV tuner, while a 3.5mm headphone jack, A2DP,
and integrated stereo speakers should handle audio with aplomb.
Other features include WiFi, AGPS,
and morphing lights on the smaller second slide that hook the user up with
game controls when it's time to relax with a little N-Gage action.
Unfortunately, the first version of the N96 (and the only version announced thus far)
supports HSDPA only on the 900 and 2100MHz bands,
but we imagine the strength of the spec sheet should still be enough to sell a few
of these stateside when it launches in the third quarter for €550 (about $797).

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Nokia N96 world exclusive hands-on
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Now we´re talking; 16GB of storage internally in addition to a microSD slot.
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But fuck a "slide" phone,come with a "bar" phone and I´m sold.  ;D ;D ;D ;D


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The Nokia N78, in European and North American flavors
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The revamped Nseries lineup is coming fast and furious since the launch of the N81 and N82 late last year, and the latest candybar to get the updated industrial design is the N78, a midrange handset (by Nseries standards, anyway)
with an integrated FM transmitter setting it apart from the crowd.
Another notable feature is its picture geotagging capability,
made possible by the 3.2 megapixel autofocus camera paired with integrated AGPS.
Other than that, it's pretty much your average S60 Third Edition Feature Pack 2 piece with Bluetooth and WiFi,
though it's the very first Nseries model to be announced in both European and North American 3G versions simultaneously
 -- and if that's not progress, we don't know what is.
Look for it to start stocking shelves next quarter for €350 (about $507).



with an integrated FM transmitter setting it apart from the crowd.
^^^^^^dope feature ^^^^^^





Sony Ericsson News


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Two for the Cyber-shot crowd: Sony Ericsson intros C702 and C902
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At its press conference yesterday, Sony Ericsson has unveiled two new members of the Cyber-shot family - C702 and C902. Let's briefly go through them, shall we:

Sony Ericsson C702 Cyber-shot
3.2 MP camera, auto focus, 2x digital zoom, video recording
aGPS, Google Maps and Wayfinder pre-installed, Geo tagging
Splash and dust resistant
2.2" 262,144 QVGA color screen
Size: 106×48x15.5 mm, weight: 105 grams

Sony Ericsson C902 Cyber-shot
5 MP camera, auto focus, 2.5x digital zoom, video recording with light, image and video stabiliser
Face Detection
2" 262,144 QVGA color screen
108×49x10.5 mm, weight: 107 grams

In addition, both devices support stereo Bluetooth (A2DP), FM radio, and HSDPA connectivity. As for the pre-installed software, whether you grab the C702 or C902 — somewhere in Q2 2008 when they hit "select markets" — you'll get PlayNow, TrackID, Java, NetFront web browser, RSS reader, picture blogging, and other standard apps already on board.

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The Sony Ericsson W980
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Just as we've expected, Sony Ericsson announced the latest addition to its Walkman family of handsets - W980. Created with "music in mind," the new Walkman clamshell is simply beautiful in its "Piano Black" color.

As for the specs, there's the quad-band GSM/GPRS radio, HSDPA, stereo Bluetooth (A2DP), 2.2" QVGA internal and 176×176 pixels external screen, dedicated music keys, 8GB of internal memory, 3.2 MP camera, auto rotate feature, FM radio, FM transmitter (very cool), Shake control, TrackID, SensMe, and much more. Available from Q3 2008 in select markets… Full release follows after the jump.

PRESS RELEASE - Sony Ericsson today revealed the W980, a Walkman phone that promises to get the most out of your music. Its unique audio enhancing technology, together with the Walkman on Top design, sees the W980 cement Sony Ericsson's position as a true market leader in the world of music on your mobile.

"The W980 Walkman phone really sets a new standard for music on your phone," said Ben Padley, Head of Music Marketing, at Sony Ericsson. "We wanted to design a leading music player that we could combine with a feature-packed phone, all the while pioneering an audio experience that always left you wanting more. The W980 will surpass all expectations."

W980 Walkman phone Created with music in mind
Clear audio experience - Superior sound quality lets you enjoy your music as it was meant to be heard
Walkman on Top - Intuitive music access and control,
Storage solutions - 8GB internal memory lets you store up to 8,000 songs

Be true to the original recording

The W980 Walkman phone is designed to allow you to listen to music as it should be heard. Clear stereo enables the music to sound like the original recording. Clear bass delivers distortion free sound even at higher volumes. These features combine with the premium headphones, the Stereo Portable Handsfree HPM-77, to deliver an incredible clear audio experience and music that sounds as true as possible to the original recording

Share your music with friends

The W980 Walkman phone has a built-in FM transmitter, which allows you to send whatever's playing on your phone to other devices with a built-in FM radio receiver. This gives you the ability to share your music with all those around you, whether through a friend's hi-fi or your car stereo.

Quality music is made for sharing with the W980. Unplug your headset, sit back and let the music flow through the integrated stereo speakers for all to enjoy. Select a track from the extensive music library – the W980 lets you store up to 8000 songs – or tune in to your favourite radio station and listen out loud. No need to plug in an FM Receiver, since this is on-board with the W980.

Build your collection every day

With the recent evolution of PlayNow arena, Sony Ericsson's popular over-the-air (OTA) and web download service being launched this May, you will be able to access up to 5 million tracks to maximise your music collection. The W980's TrackID feature, which can identify any track that you just can't put a name to, will be fully integrated into PlayNow arena. This makes the W980 a genuine gateway to great music, as you can download the track instantly once it has been identified.

Customise your sound

You can tailor the W980's Walkman player to the music that you're listening to. This latest Walkman phone provides a choice of eight equaliser presets, each of which contains a distinct profile that is suitable to a range of music. So whether you're listening to jazz, pop or heavy metal, you've can always choose the best sound for the song.

Control your music at your fingertips

The Walkman on Top feature on the W980 gives you the full functionality of a Walkman player without even having to open your phone. The entire Walkman player that would normally be displayed on the inside of your clamshell is also replicated on the outside of the phone, so navigation through your music library is effortless.

Balance and beat

Every music enthusiast knows that a great audio experience requires great quality speakers or headphones. The W980 Walkman phone comes with the new Stereo Portable Handsfree HPM-77; a headset that lets you enjoy music in powerful stereo sound. The HPM-77 also allows users to take their calls handsfree, and its sleek design and in-ear wearing-style mean that it's both comfortable and reduces background noise to the bare minimum.

Whether listening via the headphones or the stereo speakers, the W980 Walkman phone is a must-have for those who want an unrivalled music experience, which they carry with them every minute of the day. It is a UMTS/HSDPA 2100 GSM/GPRS 850/900/1800/1900 phone that will be available in selected markets from Q3 2008.

The Stereo Portable Handsfree HPM-77 will be available in selected markets from June 2008.


Other goodies include an FM transmitter
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Nice feature  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Sony Ericsson G700 and G900 revealed
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The new G-series from Sony Ericsson is launching today at Mobile World Congress Barcelona as the Swedish-Japanese firm's "touchscreen organizer" offering. Sony Ericsson is touting this pair of handsets as a "personal organiser in-your-pocket keeps your contacts, calendars, notes, pictures and favourite Web sites all in one place and just a fingertip away." By which we presume that the Sony Ericsson G700 and G900 will be pulling PDA-duty for the smartphone set.

Both the Sony Ericsson G700 and Sony Ericsson G900 feature a 2.4-inch touchscreen display that allows the user to write "sticky notes" directly on the screen (with the stylus, of course). As an added bonus, the "sticky notes" can be "pasted" to the homescreen, serving as a handy reminder whenever you glance at your Sony Ericsson G700 or G900's display.

The SE G700 will be holding up the lower-end of this "organizer" duo. With a 3.2 megapixel camera, Bluetooth (A2DP), TrackID, FM radio with RDS, Opera web browser, text-input and calendar features, the G700 is definitely a capable handset (even if it is the "lighter" of the two handsets).

Which brings us to the Sony Ericsson G900. The SE G900 does everything its less-accomplished sibling is capable of doing, but bumps up the camera's pixel density to 5 megapixels and throws a bit of WiFi in the mix.

Both the G-series handsets from Sony Ericsson will be sporting tri-band (900/1800/1900Mhz) GSM/GPRS radios with European-flavored UMTS on the 2100Mhz band. Expect a Q2 2008 release with the G700 launching in Silk Bronze and the G900 launching in Dark Red and Dark Brown


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Sony Ericsson takes touchscreen mainstream with two phones set to simplify your life

10 February 2008The new G700 and G900 phones are designed to give back time. They place personal organiser features and easy finger-touch control within familiar form factors.

Barcelona, Spain – 10th February 2008 – Sony Ericsson today launched a new generation of phone: Touchscreen organisers with a broad appeal. The G700 and G900 phones are essential tools designed to organise the lives of all those with busy schedules to juggle, both at home and at work.
The G700 is here to help you live your life to the full. This personal organiser in-your-pocket keeps your contacts, calendars, notes, pictures and favourite Web sites all in one place and just a fingertip away. Touch and go.
The G900 has all the functions of the G700 with the added features of a unique new 5.0 megapixel Touch Auto Focus camera, touch photo album and editor. Perfect for those looking for a one-touch media experience combined with their organiser.

“Sony Ericsson is delivering touchscreen and innovative organiser capabilities to a wide audience without compromising on the size or shape of the phone. Both the G700 and G900 have regular keyboards and are no larger than a regular phone.” says Martin Winkler, Director Global Marketing and Head of Multimedia Web at Sony Ericsson. “These phones are ideal for users that are only interested in making their lives simpler. It’s not about technology for the sake of it.”

Sony Ericsson G700 phone
One-touch full organiser functions
Touch controlled Notes application - write and draw your memo's
Large 2.4" display with unique single touch control menu
3,2 megapixel camera
Compact size

Calendar is King
Access your calendar, reach family and friends and scribble and save your notes on your phone. With the G700, you can jot down a note on the screen with a stylus, just as you would with a pen on paper, and save it on your phone’s desktop to remind you - just as you’d stick a note on the fridge. You can even draw a map to the local shop or doodle personal notes to send them to your loved ones! Holding everything that is important to you wherever you go, the G700 is the most natural way to manage life. There’s no longer a need to have your home calendar separate from work – it works with you, the way you do.

Intuitively simple
With the G700 you can enjoy touchscreen text input, Web surfing, calendar and phone navigation. Want to contact someone at home? Just touch the relevant name in your phonebook and all of the various contact options will appear onscreen. It’s instantly intuitive messaging. You can even browse your photo album using the tip of your finger. The G700 also has dedicated keys for messaging, notes and a key lock on the side of the phone. All it takes is one press to unlock.

Sony Ericsson G900 phone
One touch media experience
5.0 megapixel camera with touch Auto focus and Multi-shot function
One- touch media and organiser menu
Large 2.4" display with single touch control menu
Wi-Fi™ for high speed data transfer and internet browsing

Print-quality photos to keep
The G900’s 5.0 megapixel camera lets you take print-quality photos and share them with friends and family straight away.

Frame your shot and decide where you want to focus the camera by simply touching the screen. Also, with Camera Multi-Shot, hold down the camera key and take as many pictures as you like. Great for taking photos of your kids as they dash around the garden! Scroll through all of the photos on your phone with touch control and even edit them there with the Touch photo album and editor.

Stay mobile
Got a moment to surf? Access your favourite Web pages when you’re in a Wi-Fi™ hotspot and view them on the large 2.4” display. Use the stylus or your finger to zoom-in or pan around the page. When you’ve barely got a moment to spare, get RSS feeds direct to your phone for the latest updates; news, football scores or whatever you are in to.

Organize with a personal touch
Touch, type or write… Everything comes naturally with the G900. Organise your schedule, touch and tap to make calls and jot down notes before you forget it. The G900 works your way to let you get more into your day. It’s the power of personal touch.

The G700 will launch in Silk Bronze and the G900 will launch in Dark Red and Dark Brown. Both are UMTS 2100 and GSM/GPRS 900/1800/1900 phones that will be available in selected markets from Q2 2008.

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2) Talk and standby times are affected by network preferences, type of SIM card, connected accessories and various activities e.g. games. Kit contents and color options may differ from market to market. The full range of accessories may not be available in every market.

© Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB, 2007.

The liquid identity logo, TrackID and PlayNow are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB. Sony, Memory Stick Micro and M2 are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sony Corporation.

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Symbian Powered ^^^^^^, The black G900 looks nice.

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More details on the Sony Ericsson Z770
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/02/11/more-details-on-the-sony-ericsson-z770.html#more-16441

10 February 2008The new Sony Ericsson Z770 is a powerful web enabled phone designed to keep you up- to-date with the latest headlines, your favourite website and your email inbox.

Barcelona, Spain – 10th February 2008 – Sony Ericsson today announced the launch of the new Z770, an elegant clamshell phone optimised for the web and benefiting from HSDPA data speeds. This classic-looking clamshell phone offers capabilities beyond expectation. It is designed to make it straightforward to surf the web or receive the latest news, and the ‘email set-up wizard’ makes it simple to access your inbox. The Z770 can also be connected directly to a laptop (via USB cable) and can be used as a modem.

“The Z770 is deceptively powerful for such a compact clamshell phone,” said Martin Winkler, Director Global Marketing and Head of Multimedia Web at Sony Ericsson. “It appeals to busy people who demand hassle-free email and high quality Web access on the move. These people need to be in-touch, need to be on top of their email, but don’t necessarily want a smartphone or PDA. The Z770 is the uncomplicated answer.”

Z770 phone – Gets you online with effortless style
Easy email set-up – for ultimate convenience
High-speed web access and intuitive navigation features for fast web browsing
Google™ Maps for Mobile – receive step-by-step directions on your screen to your destination

Style in your pocket
A compact, reliable phone that helps you juggle work, home, friends and family. With HSDPA technology providing fast data speeds, the Z770 provides multiple methods of communication whether it’s for a business matter or just staying in touch with the family. This phone combines up to 8.5 hours talk time with easy email set-up and fast internet access. This makes the Z770 a versatile phone for those that have a hectic lifestyle both at work and at home with the family.

Your inbox in your hand
The Z770 makes it easier than ever before to access your email. Even if you’re a technical novice you can access Web email (Hotmail, Yahoo etc) and retrieve mail, straight from your phone. And with Exchange ActiveSync™, you can even configure your phone to have work emails pushed straight to your phone, making it easier than ever to stay in touch on the move.

Choose how you want to get online
The Z770 gives you online access, however you choose to get there. Surf the web or retrieve email directly on your phone when you’re in a cab. And when you’re in the hotel lobby, connect the Z770 to your laptop (via USB Cable) and use it as a modem to access the web on your computer.

Once online, web browsing on the Z770 is easy thanks to the Magnetic Mouse Pointer that is controlled by the navigation key. The key changes the icon depending on its position on the Web page (i.e. from text input to pointer or to link). Plus, pan and zoom into an area you’re interested in for easy reading on the good-sized (2.2”) screen.

Stay up-to-date
The Z770 offers you all the information you need, right at your fingertips. Receive RSS feeds from news or entertainment websites as the action happens. Or simply click on the RSS tile, or ‘widget’, for instant access to your favourite webpage from your phone’s desktop (or standby screen). In addition, the Z770 has a useful built-in weather forecast application, allowing you to receive regular weather updates and plan your long weekend accordingly.

As well as receiving the latest news and weather forecasts, you can also keep loved ones informed about your own news. Snap a photo on the Z770 and upload it instantly to your own blog site.

Stay in touch in your car
You don’t need to hold the phone in your hand to get the best out of the Z770. With the Bluetooth ™ Handsfree HCB-150, also announced today, you can catch-up with your client or family in your car while staying focused on the road. The HCB-150 also features a convenient text to speech feature; the HCB-150 verbally alerts you who is calling. The HCB-150 has a talk time of up to 25 hours and 700 hours standby time- long enough to last for quite a few trips!

The Z770 is a UMTS/HSDPA 2100 and GSM/EDGE 900/1800/1900 phone that will be available in Vogue Red, Graphite Black and Exquisite Gold in selected markets from Q2 2008.

The Bluetooth™ Car Speakerphone HCB-150 will be available g