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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Hey Ma on October 03, 2007, 08:48:18 PM

Title: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Hey Ma on October 03, 2007, 08:48:18 PM
I noticed one thread in this section about the Murs & Slug Felt 2 album which was good to see, cuz it seems like most of the stuff flooding this area is the same old watered down shit with a different colored diaper. (no offense to g. malone/bishop lamont/crooked i fans but thats what it is, i like it too but it gets boring quick)

My question is, what are some recommendations for California rappers or crews that don't constantly trip off money and stupid stuff in their lyrics?

Is there anyone here willing to discuss this?
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Laconic on October 03, 2007, 08:53:14 PM
Paris, Zion I, T-KASH, Living Legends, Kam, People Under the stairs, Sick Symphonies, etc.

All of the above are dope and not constantly talking about the shit you mentioned above.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Blu Lacez on October 03, 2007, 08:54:47 PM
Well There's Murs
There's Xl Middleton (Black,1st Born,etc)
Planet Asia
These are just but a few, i'm sure others on here,will be able to be bring you up to Speed!!
Props on the Topic!!
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Blu Lacez on October 03, 2007, 08:55:52 PM
Paris, Zion I, T-KASH, Living Legends, Kam, People Under the stairs, Sick Symphonies, etc.

All of the above are dope and not constantly talking about the shit you mentioned above.

Yup!!
Forgot bout those mentioned in your Post!!
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 08:57:03 PM
absolutely.......i'll just list sum of my favorites that any open minded hip hop head should feel (aside from murs)

people under the stairs
blu & exile (their debut album 'below the heavens' is the best of the year imo)
dilated peoples (and all their affiliated projects i.e. evidence's 'the weatherman' the likwit junkies, dj babu mixtapes, expansion sound system. etc.)
sick symphonies (althought they do have a heavy street edge)
self scientific
psc aka luckyiam (not TI's wack ass group)
living legends
aceyalone
abstact rude
planet asia (the older 'cali agents' era stuff is his best)

...thats just a few off the top.......

Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 09:00:10 PM
here's a few more:

loot pack and most madlib projects
rascoe (not roscoe, two totally different artists)
LA symphony
pigeon john
jurassic 5 (tho' i think they may have broken up)
the visionaries

Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Hey Ma on October 03, 2007, 09:03:15 PM
I've seen some promo for blu and exile so thats definently worth checking out? i'll find it on torrent
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Blu Lacez on October 03, 2007, 09:03:34 PM
here's a few more:
LA symphony

Haha!!
You Like LA Symphony??
Only heard a few of their Tracks,
and what i heard i'm digging it!!
I saw 'em performin on a Christian Channel, a few weeks back!
Enjoyed it!!
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 09:07:11 PM
I've seen some promo for blu and exile so thats definently worth checking out? i'll find it on torrent

its some real throw back-feel good type hip hop......im from that early 90's era so maybe thats why im digging it so much...........it really is some grade a quality music, i cant see how anyone could front on it.......u shoudlnt be dissapointed
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 09:08:47 PM
here's a few more:
LA symphony

Haha!!
You Like LA Symphony??
Only heard a few of their Tracks,
and what i heard i'm digging it!!
I saw 'em performin on a Christian Channel, a few weeks back!
Enjoyed it!!
yeah, i was heavy in the LA underground scene for a while......my crew has actually done shows wit sharlock peoms, cookbook, and uno mas in the past........i was really into their early stuff, but i havent heard their newest album
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 09:12:46 PM
I've seen some promo for blu and exile so thats definently worth checking out? i'll find it on torrent
check ur pm's homie
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: maxpowers on October 03, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
Madlib [the whole stone throw family]
del da homosapien [hieroglyphics family]
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 09:29:38 PM
Madlib [the whole stone throw family]
del da homosapien [hieroglyphics family]
yeah, cant believe i left out heiro......tho del and pep love are really the only ones putting out dope music......the last shit i heard from a plus and tajai were 'meh'...
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: d-nice on October 03, 2007, 10:15:03 PM
Heiro, Ikuestion, Jehuniko, Kemo Tha Blaxican, Delinquent Habits, Tha Liks, Dilated camp, Homeless Nation, man I could be here all day, good topic thread.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: d-nice on October 03, 2007, 10:21:51 PM
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!


Most def. I would be hard for most to name some artists like that because they are really not promoted out west other than a chosen few. It's sad because their is really some dope rappers out west pushing that positivity and got real skills and will never get that push other would promoting bullshit.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Krucial-Styles on October 03, 2007, 10:43:24 PM
DIDO, THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD WEST COAST RAPPER, WITH SOME GREAT LYRICS.

I USE MY LYRICS ABOUT PAIN, AND REALITY OF MY LIFE, SOME HARD TIMES, BUT IT IS MY POSITIVE THERAPY. THE LATEST SINGLE THOUGH IS FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES, AND TO TRY AND PLEASE THE RADIO CREW.  SOMETIMES U GOTTA GIVE EM WHAT THEY WANNA HEAR. CLICK THROUGH ON THIS LINK>
 
http://www.clearchannelmusic.com/cc-common/artist_submission/player.html?art=58429&g=1191385068

Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Machiavelli on October 03, 2007, 10:45:36 PM
black eyed peas

Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 03, 2007, 11:11:59 PM
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!

your right............genocide and juice was my shit in highschool......boots' first verse on 'fat cats, bigga fish' was sooooooooo dope.......even 'pimps' was way, WAY ahead of its time as far as concept and subject......it applies even more so currently........and for all those heads who only want gangsta shit, there's a track wit spice 1 about being locked up thats dope as fuck too........great album, one of the best from that year, and thats saying alot for the time period (i wanna say 94', 95'?)
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: maxpowers on October 04, 2007, 12:47:17 AM
black eyed peas


big up. BEP are hiphop.

Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Rud on October 04, 2007, 04:04:26 AM
Pacific Division
Bleu Collar
Clinton Wayne
Fashawn The Phenom
Madi B
Jeff Jones


these are just a few on top of the other names mentioned...search for any of them on Dubcnn.com and you will see info and audio to see what im talking about...
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: d-nice on October 04, 2007, 08:16:58 AM
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!


Most def. I would be hard for most to name some artists like that because they are really not promoted out west other than a chosen few. It's sad because their is really some dope rappers out west pushing that positivity and got real skills and will never get that push other would promoting bullshit.

Me personally donīt mind "gangster shit",I remember when NWA came out there was a lot of talk about their lyrics,I had a lot of arguments with friends of mine their "ignorant" lyrics. I was all heavy into BDP at the time,but at the time a realised that I canīt live my life after these rappers lyrics. KRS,PE and NWA all had different takes on life. So from then on I enjoyed the skills and quality of the music. Itīs not what you say itīs how you say it. Take a MC like Kurupt,does his lyrics make much sense? No,but you canīt deny that his way to put words and the way he spits them is dope.
As for promoting these kind of artists well,The Coup was signed to Wild Pitch Records.......
Quote
Wild Pitch Records was a hip hop record label started in the mid 1980s by Stuart Fine and was eventually distributed by EMI and eventually acquired by Jay Faires, who tried to reactivate it as part of his short-lived JCOR Entertainment label. Artists who released records under this label include Main Source, Lord Finesse, Ultramagnetic MCs, Chill Rob G, Gang Starr, UMC'S, O.C., Brokin English Klik, Hard knocks, and the Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Pitch_Records
.....they promoted The Coup pretty good,at the time they got played on radio and MTV.
Itīs more about the approach,right now you got no west coast artists that use this "alternative/backpack" style in a mainstream way,well thereīs one group,Black Eyed Peas,but theyīre hella pop. The rest of them keep it "hardcore/underground",as opposed to the "gangster rappers" wich got whole gang of artists representing in the mainstream.
Itīs a whole "underground/hardcore" scene of "gangster rappers" out there too that donīt get any exposure also.
I think itīs sad that neither of these artists get some shine,not even on this board.
I believe that the "alternative/backpack" scene can get some shine trough Bishop Lamont,yes heīs the one that have sell his soul so rest of them can get a little shine. He will carry the torch,so donīt kill him because he have to comprimise and do some generic bullshit tracks.



I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!

your right............genocide and juice was my shit in highschool......boots' first verse on 'fat cats, bigga fish' was sooooooooo dope.......even 'pimps' was way, WAY ahead of its time as far as concept and subject......it applies even more so currently........and for all those heads who only want gangsta shit, there's a track wit spice 1 about being locked up thats dope as fuck too........great album, one of the best from that year, and thats saying alot for the time period (i wanna say 94', 95'?)

Yeah,that album is hella tight. It came out in 94,I had to check myself,ha,ha.
Their concepts is fucking dope,Boots Riley is tight.
I saw them live back in March or April,shit was super dope. If you got the chance check them out,you wont regret it.






Quote
The Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coup
The Coup is a hip-hop group based in Oakland, California. It formed as a three-member group in 1992 with rappers Raymond "Boots" Riley and E-Roc along with DJ Pam the Funkstress. E-Roc left on amicable terms after the group's second album, but appears on the track "Breathing Apparatus" on The Coup's third album, Steal This Album. The group is now a duo

History

The Coup, politically radical and Marxist in their music, align themselves with other radical hip-hop groups like Dead Prez. Their music is characterized by electronic sounds and bass-driven backbeats overlaid by humorous, cynical and sometimes violent lyrics criticizing capitalism, American politics, prostitution, and police brutality, among other things.
The Coup's debut album was 1993's Kill My Landlord. In 1994 they released their second album, Genocide and Juice. After a four-year recording hiatus, the group released the critically acclaimed Steal This Album in 1998, the title of which was reminiscent of lifestylist Abbie Hoffman's Steal this Book. The album featured the stand-out single "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night". The online magazine Dusted called Steal This Album "the best hip-hop album of the 1990s".[1]
In 2001, The Coup released Party Music to widespread praise. However, in part due to distribution problems, sales of the album were low. The original album cover art depicted group members Pam the Funkstress and Riley standing in front of the twin towers of the World Trade Center as they are destroyed by huge explosions; Riley is pushing the button on a guitar tuner. The album's planned release date was just after the events of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and the cover art was withdrawn hastily. The cover art was finished in June 2001; there was no connection between the band and the attacks. The album release was held back as alternative cover art was prepared.
The attention generated to the album's cover art generated some criticism of the group's lyrical content as well, particularly the Party Music track "5 Million Ways to Kill a CEO". The song's rap includes lines like, "You could throw a twenty in a vat of hot oil/When he jump in after it, watch him boil". Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin cited the song in calling The Coup's work a "stomach-turning example of anti-Americanism disguised as highbrow intellectual expression".[2]
On November 15, 2005, Tarus Jackson (AKA Terrance), who had joined the group as a "hype man", was shot dead during a robbery at his home in Oakland.[3]
December 2, 2006 saw another tragedy for The Coup: About two hours following a performance at the San Diego House of Blues, the tour bus in which they were riding drove off the road and flipped over before becoming engulfed in flames.[4] All passengers managed to climb out alive, though some were badly injured. They did, however, lose all of their clothes, computers, cash, identification, house/car keys and cell phones as well as all of their instruments and sound equipment. Since an insurance settlement is potentially a year away, they were forced to cancel the rest of their tour.

Current members

Boots Riley
Since the age of 14, he has considered himself to be a communist:
I think that people should have democratic control over the profits that they produce. It is not real democracy until you have that. And the plain and simple definition of communism is the people having democratic control over the profits that they create.[5]
In 1991, he and other artists founded the Mau Mau Rhythm Collective, a group set up to use the power of hip hop music to publicize other efforts and movements. The next year, Riley founded The Coup.
Riley wrote and performed the music for The Simpsons episode "Pranksta Rap". Matt Selman wrote the lyrics for the songs.

Pam the Funkstress
Pam the Funkstress was a student of the late DJ Prince of Charm. In addition to DJing, she currently owns and operates a successful catering business in northern California. As of the 2006 tour promoting Pick a Bigger Weapon, Pam does not tour with The Coup. Instead, Boots performs with a three-man band.


The Coup resume;

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/21ABB0TK5VL.jpg)
Kill My Landlord
Released: May 4, 1993
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #83
Singles: "Dig It"/"Fuck a Perm", "Funk"/"The Liberation of Lonzo Williams", "Not Yet Free"/"I Ain't the Nigga"
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BPJZNE93L._AA240_.jpg)
Genocide & Juice
Released: October 18, 1994
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #62
Singles: "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish", "Takin' These"
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DHS5.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Steal This Album
Released: November 10, 1998
Label: Dogday Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #51
Singles: "Me & Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"/"20,000 Gun Salute"/"U.C.P.A.S.", "The Shipment"
(http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/911/9-11_Truth_files/image002.jpg)
Party Music
Released: November 6, 2001
Label: 75 Ark Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "5 Million Ways to Kill a C.E.O."

(http://www.pastelmusic.com/list/20050810/43.gif)
Steal This Double Album (Steal This Album re-release)
Released: August 13, 2002
Label: Polemic Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles:
(http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/b/8/-/-/pickabiggerweapon.jpg)
Pick a Bigger Weapon
Released: April 25, 2006
Label: Epitaph Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "My Favorite Mutiny"/"Laugh/Love/Fuck"





Hereīs some videoīs and audio,donīt sleep!!!!

Kill My Landlord
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/21ABB0TK5VL.jpg)
Not Yet Free
http://www.youtube.com/v/-liNf9GEt8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-liNf9GEt8A
Dig It
http://www.youtube.com/v/LsUDGxdeICw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUDGxdeICw
Funk
http://www.youtube.com/v/Iq8yZHJq3Bc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq8yZHJq3Bc

Genocide & Juice
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BPJZNE93L._AA240_.jpg)
Fat Cats and Bigga Fish
http://www.youtube.com/v/-v-rIWUAQuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-rIWUAQuI

Steal This Album
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DHS5.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Me and jesus the pimp in a 79 granada last night
http://www.youtube.com/v/OMsEDX9IosU

Party Music
(http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/911/9-11_Truth_files/image002.jpg)
04 Ghetto Manifesto.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?1mbo93mjqnd
09 Pork And Beef.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?2wt543di02m
Ride The Fence
http://www.youtube.com/v/V6BJeoHilUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6BJeoHilUI

Pick a Bigger Weapon
(http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/b/8/-/-/pickabiggerweapon.jpg)
04 My Favorite Mutiny.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?0tjyy9jdnmy
11 MindFuck (A New Equation).m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?73njyziwebl


No doubt Tusken, I agree with that you are saying. I guess my comment could be taken that I don't like gangsta rap but I do. I have damn near every gangsta rap album made. I feel like artists we are talking about in this thread it almost seems like PURPOSELY these artists are overlooked. It's like if it ain't gangsta shit, it gets no exposure. But definitely there are some lyrics to be had in gangsta rap. That was why I really enjoyed when Xzibit became popular. All be it Dre and Snoop had alot to do with it, it gave people a different perspective of a west coast mc. But the 90's was big for showcasing ALL of what the west had to offer. Just seems like after Pac died, that shit was gone.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: d-nice on October 04, 2007, 08:23:20 AM
+1 to everyone dropping knowledge in this thread. Alot of people think the west is just about gangsta rap and that ain't the case. There is so such more to it then that.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: d-nice on October 04, 2007, 09:26:56 AM
I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!


Most def. I would be hard for most to name some artists like that because they are really not promoted out west other than a chosen few. It's sad because their is really some dope rappers out west pushing that positivity and got real skills and will never get that push other would promoting bullshit.

Me personally donīt mind "gangster shit",I remember when NWA came out there was a lot of talk about their lyrics,I had a lot of arguments with friends of mine their "ignorant" lyrics. I was all heavy into BDP at the time,but at the time a realised that I canīt live my life after these rappers lyrics. KRS,PE and NWA all had different takes on life. So from then on I enjoyed the skills and quality of the music. Itīs not what you say itīs how you say it. Take a MC like Kurupt,does his lyrics make much sense? No,but you canīt deny that his way to put words and the way he spits them is dope.
As for promoting these kind of artists well,The Coup was signed to Wild Pitch Records.......
Quote
Wild Pitch Records was a hip hop record label started in the mid 1980s by Stuart Fine and was eventually distributed by EMI and eventually acquired by Jay Faires, who tried to reactivate it as part of his short-lived JCOR Entertainment label. Artists who released records under this label include Main Source, Lord Finesse, Ultramagnetic MCs, Chill Rob G, Gang Starr, UMC'S, O.C., Brokin English Klik, Hard knocks, and the Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Pitch_Records
.....they promoted The Coup pretty good,at the time they got played on radio and MTV.
Itīs more about the approach,right now you got no west coast artists that use this "alternative/backpack" style in a mainstream way,well thereīs one group,Black Eyed Peas,but theyīre hella pop. The rest of them keep it "hardcore/underground",as opposed to the "gangster rappers" wich got whole gang of artists representing in the mainstream.
Itīs a whole "underground/hardcore" scene of "gangster rappers" out there too that donīt get any exposure also.
I think itīs sad that neither of these artists get some shine,not even on this board.
I believe that the "alternative/backpack" scene can get some shine trough Bishop Lamont,yes heīs the one that have sell his soul so rest of them can get a little shine. He will carry the torch,so donīt kill him because he have to comprimise and do some generic bullshit tracks.



I can't believe you all forgot to mention The Coup,damn. Shit they released one of the best albums last year if not the best,"Pick a bigger weapon".
Their whole catalog is dope. Don't sleep!!!

your right............genocide and juice was my shit in highschool......boots' first verse on 'fat cats, bigga fish' was sooooooooo dope.......even 'pimps' was way, WAY ahead of its time as far as concept and subject......it applies even more so currently........and for all those heads who only want gangsta shit, there's a track wit spice 1 about being locked up thats dope as fuck too........great album, one of the best from that year, and thats saying alot for the time period (i wanna say 94', 95'?)

Yeah,that album is hella tight. It came out in 94,I had to check myself,ha,ha.
Their concepts is fucking dope,Boots Riley is tight.
I saw them live back in March or April,shit was super dope. If you got the chance check them out,you wont regret it.






Quote
The Coup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coup
The Coup is a hip-hop group based in Oakland, California. It formed as a three-member group in 1992 with rappers Raymond "Boots" Riley and E-Roc along with DJ Pam the Funkstress. E-Roc left on amicable terms after the group's second album, but appears on the track "Breathing Apparatus" on The Coup's third album, Steal This Album. The group is now a duo

History

The Coup, politically radical and Marxist in their music, align themselves with other radical hip-hop groups like Dead Prez. Their music is characterized by electronic sounds and bass-driven backbeats overlaid by humorous, cynical and sometimes violent lyrics criticizing capitalism, American politics, prostitution, and police brutality, among other things.
The Coup's debut album was 1993's Kill My Landlord. In 1994 they released their second album, Genocide and Juice. After a four-year recording hiatus, the group released the critically acclaimed Steal This Album in 1998, the title of which was reminiscent of lifestylist Abbie Hoffman's Steal this Book. The album featured the stand-out single "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night". The online magazine Dusted called Steal This Album "the best hip-hop album of the 1990s".[1]
In 2001, The Coup released Party Music to widespread praise. However, in part due to distribution problems, sales of the album were low. The original album cover art depicted group members Pam the Funkstress and Riley standing in front of the twin towers of the World Trade Center as they are destroyed by huge explosions; Riley is pushing the button on a guitar tuner. The album's planned release date was just after the events of the September 11, 2001 attacks, and the cover art was withdrawn hastily. The cover art was finished in June 2001; there was no connection between the band and the attacks. The album release was held back as alternative cover art was prepared.
The attention generated to the album's cover art generated some criticism of the group's lyrical content as well, particularly the Party Music track "5 Million Ways to Kill a CEO". The song's rap includes lines like, "You could throw a twenty in a vat of hot oil/When he jump in after it, watch him boil". Conservative columnist Michelle Malkin cited the song in calling The Coup's work a "stomach-turning example of anti-Americanism disguised as highbrow intellectual expression".[2]
On November 15, 2005, Tarus Jackson (AKA Terrance), who had joined the group as a "hype man", was shot dead during a robbery at his home in Oakland.[3]
December 2, 2006 saw another tragedy for The Coup: About two hours following a performance at the San Diego House of Blues, the tour bus in which they were riding drove off the road and flipped over before becoming engulfed in flames.[4] All passengers managed to climb out alive, though some were badly injured. They did, however, lose all of their clothes, computers, cash, identification, house/car keys and cell phones as well as all of their instruments and sound equipment. Since an insurance settlement is potentially a year away, they were forced to cancel the rest of their tour.

Current members

Boots Riley
Since the age of 14, he has considered himself to be a communist:
I think that people should have democratic control over the profits that they produce. It is not real democracy until you have that. And the plain and simple definition of communism is the people having democratic control over the profits that they create.[5]
In 1991, he and other artists founded the Mau Mau Rhythm Collective, a group set up to use the power of hip hop music to publicize other efforts and movements. The next year, Riley founded The Coup.
Riley wrote and performed the music for The Simpsons episode "Pranksta Rap". Matt Selman wrote the lyrics for the songs.

Pam the Funkstress
Pam the Funkstress was a student of the late DJ Prince of Charm. In addition to DJing, she currently owns and operates a successful catering business in northern California. As of the 2006 tour promoting Pick a Bigger Weapon, Pam does not tour with The Coup. Instead, Boots performs with a three-man band.


The Coup resume;

(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/21ABB0TK5VL.jpg)
Kill My Landlord
Released: May 4, 1993
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #83
Singles: "Dig It"/"Fuck a Perm", "Funk"/"The Liberation of Lonzo Williams", "Not Yet Free"/"I Ain't the Nigga"
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BPJZNE93L._AA240_.jpg)
Genocide & Juice
Released: October 18, 1994
Label: Wild Pitch Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #62
Singles: "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish", "Takin' These"
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DHS5.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Steal This Album
Released: November 10, 1998
Label: Dogday Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: #51
Singles: "Me & Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"/"20,000 Gun Salute"/"U.C.P.A.S.", "The Shipment"
(http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/911/9-11_Truth_files/image002.jpg)
Party Music
Released: November 6, 2001
Label: 75 Ark Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "5 Million Ways to Kill a C.E.O."

(http://www.pastelmusic.com/list/20050810/43.gif)
Steal This Double Album (Steal This Album re-release)
Released: August 13, 2002
Label: Polemic Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles:
(http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/b/8/-/-/pickabiggerweapon.jpg)
Pick a Bigger Weapon
Released: April 25, 2006
Label: Epitaph Records
Billboard 200 chart position: -
R&B/Hip-Hop chart position: -
Singles: "My Favorite Mutiny"/"Laugh/Love/Fuck"





Hereīs some videoīs and audio,donīt sleep!!!!

Kill My Landlord
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/21ABB0TK5VL.jpg)
Not Yet Free
http://www.youtube.com/v/-liNf9GEt8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-liNf9GEt8A
Dig It
http://www.youtube.com/v/LsUDGxdeICw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsUDGxdeICw
Funk
http://www.youtube.com/v/Iq8yZHJq3Bc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq8yZHJq3Bc

Genocide & Juice
(http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41BPJZNE93L._AA240_.jpg)
Fat Cats and Bigga Fish
http://www.youtube.com/v/-v-rIWUAQuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-v-rIWUAQuI

Steal This Album
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000DHS5.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Me and jesus the pimp in a 79 granada last night
http://www.youtube.com/v/OMsEDX9IosU

Party Music
(http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/911/9-11_Truth_files/image002.jpg)
04 Ghetto Manifesto.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?1mbo93mjqnd
09 Pork And Beef.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?2wt543di02m
Ride The Fence
http://www.youtube.com/v/V6BJeoHilUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6BJeoHilUI

Pick a Bigger Weapon
(http://z.about.com/d/rap/1/0/b/8/-/-/pickabiggerweapon.jpg)
04 My Favorite Mutiny.m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?0tjyy9jdnmy
11 MindFuck (A New Equation).m4a
http://www.mediafire.com/?73njyziwebl


No doubt Tusken,I agree with that you are saying.
I guess my comment could be taken that I don't like gangsta rap but I do.
I have damn near every gangsta rap album made.
I feel like artists we are talking about in this thread it almost seems like PURPOSELY these artists are overlooked. It's like if it ain't gangsta shit, it gets no exposure. But definitely there are some lyrics to be had in gangsta rap. That was why I really enjoyed when Xzibit became popular. All be it Dre and Snoop had alot to do with it, it gave people a different perspective of a west coast mc. But the 90's was big for showcasing ALL of what the west had to offer. Just seems like after Pac died, that shit was gone.


I know very well that youīre a fan of "gangster rap",fuck all posts in the Kurupt/DPG threads proves that + that your all time favorite MC is Cube and youīre fan of the Rap-A-Lot rooster speaks for it self.
I was speaking to everyone in this thread,the only comment to you was the promo these artists get.
Me personally donīt mind "gangster shit",I remember when NWA came out there was a lot of talk about their lyrics,I had a lot of arguments with friends of mine their "ignorant" lyrics. I was all heavy into BDP at the time,but at the time a realised that I canīt live my life after these rappers lyrics. KRS,PE and NWA all had different takes on life. So from then on I enjoyed the skills and quality of the music. Itīs not what you say itīs how you say it. Take a MC like Kurupt,does his lyrics make much sense? No,but you canīt deny that his way to put words and the way he spits them is dope.

I feel like artists we are talking about in this thread it almost seems like PURPOSELY these artists are overlooked.
It's like if it ain't gangsta shit,it gets no exposure.

Well,we canīt sit and complain and do nothing,thatīs being a hypocrite.
If we want shit to change we have to support the artists/products we value as "dope/good".
The other problem with "alternative/backpack" rap out here is that there ainīt a diverse scene like you got out east,you got to have a balance,both mainstream and underground + some shit in the middle.
The only mainstream "alternative/backpack" act we got at the moment is Black Eyed Peas and they suck,as I said before Bishop Lamont may be the one to hold the mainstream torch. All these other artists mentioned in this thread is either gone or have a "underground" sound. That said thereīs mad "gangster rappers" thatīs "overlooked" too,but I choose or assume to believe that these artists with a "underground" sound ainīt targeting the mass marked.



But definitely there are some lyrics to be had in gangsta rap. That was why I really enjoyed when Xzibit became popular. All be it Dre and Snoop had alot to do with it, it gave people a different perspective of a west coast mc. But the 90's was big for showcasing ALL of what the west had to offer. Just seems like after Pac died, that shit was gone.

Yeah,the west gets overlooked for their lyrics because it donīt fit "east coast model".
Xzibit is a MC,that got a "east coast" twist,while MCīs like Cube,WC,Kurupt,RBX and MC Ren donīt fit in.
Like you said we had a diverse scene before Pac died,I dare to say there has never been a so diverse scene in Hip Hop anywhere as back then. Well,that was back then,letīs concentrate on the future,,,, The future looks bright for the west Bishop,Crooked,Maylay,Omar Cruz,Taje,Jim Gettum.Komplex,Rome,Dae One and the list goes on......

Yes the future does have some dope new talent. You are wise beyond your years Jedi LOL! For real that is real talk.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Man On The Moon on October 04, 2007, 06:49:50 PM
Defari!
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: d-nice on October 04, 2007, 08:10:34 PM
Shame from the Yay Area is another one with good material. His California album he dropped for free download on a couple of the sites this year is one of the best albums I have heard this year.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: We Fly High on October 04, 2007, 10:04:24 PM
HeyMa - im glad that youre on the same page as me. Im really tired of all these "gangsta" rappers talkin about guns money, and redundant shit. Please check this group out, like Rud said... Pacific Division.. guarantee you wont be disappointed..

- Chuck Knoxxx, if you like the Blu cd, you'll definitely like this shit. I also think blu's cd is top cd of the year thus far.. it just kinda sucks that its not getting the recognition it deserves on this board..
but Pacific Division has actually been in the studio recording with Blu recently, so look out for that..

Pacific Division - You Know My Style
http://www.zshare.net/audio/38360611b53f85/

Pacific Division - Grown Kid Syndrome (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3758306a897325/

Pacific Division - Relax (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/375842731e9f75/

Pacific Division - How We Chill (ridin over the 93 till Infinity beat)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3836051424cd36/

Pacific Division - Fareal (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/october/Pacific_Division-Fareal(dubcnn).mp3

Pacific Division - Women Problems (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/october/Pacific_Division-Women_Problems.Swiff_D_Production(dubcnn).mp3

Pacific Division - Put Me On (ridin over ATCQ - Bonita Applebaum)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3836113949bd81/

PACIFIC DIVISION - BLEND TAPE ** (THIS IS SOME GOOD MUSIC, ENTIRE CD)
http://www.zshare.net/download/37237807dcb11e/
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: no1wammy on October 04, 2007, 10:46:49 PM
yeah, i was heavy in the LA underground scene for a while......my crew has actually done shows wit sharlock peoms, cookbook, and uno mas in the past........i was really into their early stuff, but i havent heard their newest album

What crew? You a rapper, Chuck Knoxxx?
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on October 06, 2007, 12:56:45 PM
HeyMa - im glad that youre on the same page as me. Im really tired of all these "gangsta" rappers talkin about guns money, and redundant shit. Please check this group out, like Rud said... Pacific Division.. guarantee you wont be disappointed..

- Chuck Knoxxx, if you like the Blu cd, you'll definitely like this shit. I also think blu's cd is top cd of the year thus far.. it just kinda sucks that its not getting the recognition it deserves on this board..
but Pacific Division has actually been in the studio recording with Blu recently, so look out for that..

Pacific Division - You Know My Style
http://www.zshare.net/audio/38360611b53f85/

Pacific Division - Grown Kid Syndrome (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3758306a897325/

Pacific Division - Relax (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/375842731e9f75/

Pacific Division - How We Chill (ridin over the 93 till Infinity beat)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3836051424cd36/

Pacific Division - Fareal (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/october/Pacific_Division-Fareal(dubcnn).mp3

Pacific Division - Women Problems (Produced by Swiff D)
http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/2006/october/Pacific_Division-Women_Problems.Swiff_D_Production(dubcnn).mp3

Pacific Division - Put Me On (ridin over ATCQ - Bonita Applebaum)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/3836113949bd81/

PACIFIC DIVISION - BLEND TAPE ** (THIS IS SOME GOOD MUSIC, ENTIRE CD)
http://www.zshare.net/download/37237807dcb11e/
yeah, pacific division is dope, i seen them a few times live, my homies from infinit p'tenchul did a show with them, aswell as seen them at that unity show wit la coka nostra back in may.....i met one of them cats too, real cool peeps.....they deffiantely gonna blow up soon, they got a real original style.....

yeah, i was heavy in the LA underground scene for a while......my crew has actually done shows wit sharlock peoms, cookbook, and uno mas in the past........i was really into their early stuff, but i havent heard their newest album

What crew? You a rapper, Chuck Knoxxx?
yeah, we're called all angles.....check any of the links in my sig for more info....we've  opened shows for a while out here in the LA underground scene wit most of the staple underground groups like 2mex, myka nine, abstract rude, defari and most recently delinquent habits and custom made.....just sum starving artists trying to do our thing.....i dont spam the board about it cuz i figure there's enough heads doing that already and people seem to hate that more than anything......we got sum callabo's in the works for our new album that should surpirse a few heads, it'll be out around december......feel free to show luv or hate, i can take either
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on October 06, 2007, 04:46:30 PM
yeah, we're called all angles.....check any of the links in my sig for more info....we've  opened shows for a while out here in the LA underground scene wit most of the staple underground groups like 2mex, myka nine, abstract rude, defari and most recently delinquent habits and custom made.....just sum starving artists trying to do our thing.....i dont spam the board about it cuz i figure there's enough heads doing that already and people seem to hate that more than anything......we got sum callabo's in the works for our new album that should surpirse a few heads, it'll be out around december......feel free to show luv or hate, i can take either
props homie,that death valley track is cool,im feelin that beat..keep grindin
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: SP0RTY on October 07, 2007, 11:18:27 PM
props for the info i heard of some these guys but ima check out alot of the others
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Oklin on October 08, 2007, 01:41:33 AM
loot pack and most madlib projects
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Dargine on October 08, 2007, 04:20:44 AM
Big Paybacc (even though he sometimes spitt that ganster-shit too, but he's a Crip so what else is he supposed to do, but he drops a lotta knowledge in his tracks too, and is about to do a track with Blak Civil from BK)
Columbo Black
Perfecto
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on February 11, 2008, 04:29:21 PM
happy now?
lol +1
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Mister Lepht on February 11, 2008, 05:40:13 PM
I think you are looking for NameBrand.. Here a free link to his mixtape and myspace..

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4. Who Dem Boyz ft. Crooked I
5. Tranzformerz Ft. Ras Kass
6. #1
7. The Return (He's Back)
8. Yeah!! ft. Ras Kass
9. Mattress Money ft. Printz Haze
10. The Game Will Be Alright
11. Miss Conception ft. Jayou (Ghetto Blastrz)
12. Get It In ft. Ras Kass (Produced by: Alchemist)
13. You Aint Shit ft. The Pozerz
14. Say Good Bye
15. My Garden
16. Let's Rock (Bonus Track)


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Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on February 12, 2008, 12:23:13 AM
good thread,good to see cats is open enough to checc out other artist out here then just the typical,but also try to find a common ground cause what sense would it make if one side just says awwww that gangsta shit is wacc,and the other side says they hip hop shit is boring and wacc, find that common ground and respect all artist thats truly being themselves. it's all west coast,and we are mad creative out here just the fans need to show more respect, and who knows the next big artist on the west may not even be no gangsta type of rapper might just be  the regular cat with ill raps the way it really should be yell
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Dre-Day on February 12, 2008, 02:31:19 AM
i don't really have problem with the gangsta rap "style", otherwise i wouldn't be here i guess  :laugh:
but the formula of gangsta rap got exploited to the fullest, so there are definately a lot of rotten apples.
but you know what they say, money makes the world go round  ;)

i think bishop lamont is an example of a rapper that has a mix of different styles ( if you check his street albums), although i wouldn't say he's the truth or whatever ( some of his songs don't go beyond the cliché level).
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: D-e-f- on February 13, 2008, 06:12:52 AM
Blackalicious !

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41V42ZFSA7L._AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RJN03QKRL._AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419KY5VS6VL._AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51QMMET7VML._AA240_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Y1VR3VR4L._AA240_.jpg)
(A2G EP with Alphabet Aerobics) check the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/v/i-dJ6xbrWHQ

The Gift Of Gab (of Blackalicious)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51WJ083PQTL._AA240_.jpg)
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: K.Dub on February 13, 2008, 08:41:21 AM
^Blackalicious is dope, no doubt.


And I can't believe I've been sleepin on The Coup. Good music, props Raide/Chad for uppin them. I'ma check them out.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: K.Dub on February 13, 2008, 09:29:58 AM
^Blackalicious is dope, no doubt.


And I can't believe I've been sleepin on The Coup. Good music, props Raide/Chad for uppin them. I'ma check them out.

I can up the albums if you want?
All of you guys is sleeping on them.

I found Pick A Bigger Weapon and Kill My Landlord, but yes please ;)
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: HG on February 13, 2008, 10:53:47 AM
custom made
pacific division
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: SGV on February 13, 2008, 11:34:16 AM
The problem is that a lot of the artists from the West who were never on that shit ended up flipping the script to gain more support from these West Coast heads who thought they were too nerdy (Even though 80% of the West Coasts heads on here are nerdy as fuck).

The West Coast has always slept on their underground. ALWAYS. Lord knows how many topics I've made about Project Blowed and related artists and very few people would remotely care. This is a good amount of the Project Blowed artists on one track. These cats are dope when it comes to posse cuts:

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5092/heavyweightsroundivsm4.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/v/Apn5h6IiMtw

Heavyweights Round 4 featuring J-Smoov, Aceyalone, Neb Luv (Yes, all you G-Funk fans, this is the same Neb Luv from the 5 Footaz), P.E.A.C.E., Rifleman Ellay Khule, Medusa (The same chick that collabed with Pac), Abstract Rude, Suga B, Mikah 9, Zulu Butterfly Priest, NgaFsh, Self Jupiter, K-Bar, Trensetta, Rhymin Riddlore?, Busdriver, Ko Ko & Volume 10 (Yes, Pistol Grip Pump fame) ...

Scratches: Rhettmatic (Beat Junkies, Visionaries fame) & DJ Drez

Production: Fat Jack, Josef Leimberg (The same guy who fucks with Snoop and them), Daddy Kev, Mr. French & Abstract Rude

Here's Chillin Villain Empire, they're from Project Blowed, you heard a few of them on the song I posted above. They're busting over DJ Unk's Walk It Out:

http://www.youtube.com/v/x-kBX8mqPsI

Busting over This Is Why I'm Hot

http://www.youtube.com/v/iCuIWt8_l08

Ellay Khule aka Rifleman - Who's Killing Hip Hop

http://www.youtube.com/v/G6tYMaEHvmU

Hip Hop Kclan (Ellay Khule aka Rifleman & Pterradacto)

http://www.youtube.com/v/Z3OCD09utK4

Some more of the Project Blowed cats:

http://www.youtube.com/v/LUJUajiNEdY

Pretty much all worthwhile West Coast artists have been named here. I'll just throw in:

Psycho Realm/Sick Symphonies camp:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b7/The-Psycho-Realm.jpg/596px-The-Psycho-Realm.jpg)
Psycho Realm (Sick Jacken & Big Duke) - Psycho Realm (1997) B-Real was apart of the group at this time.

Psycho City Blocks.

http://www.youtube.com/v/uEqj1XqHn9k

Showdown

http://www.youtube.com/v/Ov27tmcq4eg

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/AWarStoryBookIPsychoRealm.jpg)
A War Story Book 1 (1999)

Sick Dogs

http://www.youtube.com/v/KrUrUeXKNH4

Movin Through The Streets

http://www.youtube.com/v/oez6OLZh9Z0

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/59/AWarStoryBookIIPsychoRealm.jpg)
A War Story Book 2 (2003)

Good Times

http://www.youtube.com/v/wcnsnmz3KFc

Killing Fields

http://www.youtube.com/v/Zm0TZ8VVWw4

(http://cdbaby.name/s/t/streetplatoon.jpg)
Street Platoon (Crow & Cynic) - Steel Storm (2003)

Funeral March

http://www.youtube.com/v/IwNTtWKy_iQ

Dead Lines

http://www.youtube.com/v/iz-9LBikg5I

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51P68QZW57L._SS500_.jpg)
Sick Symphoniez (Sick Jacken, DJ FM, Crow & Cynic) - Sickside Stories (2005)

In My Lifetime

http://www.youtube.com/v/lgnuLhAOMzA

Reason To Fight

http://www.youtube.com/v/Uf__osMmj8g

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/MEX1KAN/terrortapes.jpg)
Sick Jacken & Cynic - Terror Tapes (2006)

Grapples Of War

http://www.youtube.com/v/yPPTUUymYnY

One Love

http://www.youtube.com/v/dj-8u8MGqnM

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Wkc8bR4-L._SS500_.jpg)
Sick Jacken & DJ Muggs with Cynic - Legend Of The Mask And The Assassin (2007)

2012

http://www.youtube.com/v/SYkWGAU9-dw

Legend Of The Mask & The Assassin

http://www.youtube.com/v/gDqhvnZiPVU

They might have a little gun talk, but their music is militant. It's street. It's political. It's in depth.

Others to check: Tha Mexakinz

This is one of the illest Wake Up Show Anthems ever, Xzibit (Damn he was a beast back then), Chino XL & Tha Mexakinz

http://www.youtube.com/v/lbr-I1r38ps

This is the video for the track, but it has a different verse from I-Man & doesn't have Chino.

http://www.youtube.com/v/o1KWAZtzMM4

Provoke The Extreme with Chino XL

http://www.youtube.com/v/cVbi6p0HRaM

Abstract Rude (Was on Heavyweights Round IV that I posted)

Yep

http://www.youtube.com/v/DgMvNecANL0

Stop Bitin

http://www.youtube.com/v/qZ4tiHLG5bw

Trensetta (Was featured on Heavyweights Round IV that I posted)

Freestyle

http://www.youtube.com/v/vw_VBXd-BFE

Some Track, not sure of the name

http://www.youtube.com/v/qWAGmvCY1So
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Tay on February 14, 2008, 12:38:03 AM
Props to everybody for getting this thread active, there are so many solid artists and groups listed here that it is ridiculous. Chad brought up the Jacka and the Mob Figaz, who have a lot of gangsta songs, but especially Jacka and Fed-Ex have a different way of rapping about it, and a lot of references to being Muslim and spiritual. The Team has a few gangsta lines and a lot of club songs and stuff, but they had a different sound going that has some nice appeal. Frontline is also pretty nice, their last album "Lock & Left" had no promotion or buzz, but it was pretty solid. Andre Nickatina & Equipto have an alternative vibe to their music, and someone barely brought up Sick Jacken, who is dope. Also, I didn't see Chace Infinite mentioned, another L.A. cat who is nice on the mic.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Intriago33 on February 14, 2008, 02:58:20 AM
Frontline is also pretty nice, their last album "Lock & Left" had no promotion or buzz, but it was pretty solid.

Really? I didn't know they dropped another album, their early stuff with E-A-Ski was alright.

Also, I didn't see Chace Infinite mentioned, another L.A. cat who is nice on the mic.

Indeed, Chace is a beast, him and Khalil are a nice combination.
I heard they're working on a new SS record?
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: gwincorporated on February 14, 2008, 11:12:58 AM
you may wanna check out my boy wing to www.myspace.com/gwestwing he resides from compton
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Tay on February 27, 2008, 08:29:09 PM
Chad brought up the Jacka and the Mob Figaz, who have a lot of gangsta songs,
but especially Jacka and Fed-Ex have a different way of rapping about it, and a lot of references to being Muslim and spiritual.

The Jacka is hella underated and Rob Loīs beats is some soulfull shit.
The real problem is generic gangster rap,not gangster rap itself.
Thereīs some generic bullshit alternative rap too,so donīt act like everything is good on "your" side of the fence.  >:(

The Team has a few gangsta lines and a lot of club songs and stuff, but they had a different sound going that has some nice appeal.

Personally I donīt feel them,but to each his own you know  ;)

Frontline is also pretty nice, their last album "Lock & Left" had no promotion or buzz, but it was pretty solid.

Shit was ok  ;)

Andre Nickatina have an alternative vibe to his music

^^^^yeah  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: alternative it is,bugged out  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I feel him,heīs funny.

I didn't see Chace Infinite mentioned, another L.A. cat who is nice on the mic.

I did,heīs a member of Self Scientific  ;)

Ok, I see where they were mentioned now, I guess I missed it. And I definitely agree about there being plenty of garbage alternative rap and all that, but I was just trying to make it relate to this topic. I think Rob Lo's beats are incredibly underrated, and would like to see him work more with some other sounds outside of the Mob Figaz just to get more variety and exposure. I think Fed-X is really talented too, he sounds like he puts so much effort into his rhymes and has a nice style. Also, I don't think this was mentioned, but the Prophets of Rage, and especially, Rico Pabon. Sometimes he rhymes in Spanish which really isn't my thing, but he has some good music. I actually found out about him at a concert through my college music class, so that was really cool. I'll try to up something in a little bit, but check him out because he is talented and has a cool sound.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: The Ultimate Pianist on March 29, 2008, 08:40:14 PM
props for starting and posting in this thread...discovered many artists.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Laconic on March 29, 2008, 11:41:56 PM
Dre-Day hooked me up with this album today;
T-K.A.S.H. Turf War Syndrome
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51y6br9BPlL._AA240_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Turf-War-Syndrome-T-K-S-H/dp/B000EJ9NZ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1206836302&sr=1-1

Only listened to the album a couple of times,but I like what I heard so far.
Check this track out,it features Boots Riley from The Coup. Dope shit!!!
16 American Nightmare Long Version (Feat The Coup).mp3
http://www.mediafire.com/?xaigcyew3gh

Great song.  Album is solid but lacking in the production a bit.  Regardless, T-KASH can get down on the mic.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Chad Vader on March 30, 2008, 02:38:28 AM
Chad brought up the Jacka and the Mob Figaz, who have a lot of gangsta songs,
but especially Jacka and Fed-Ex have a different way of rapping about it, and a lot of references to being Muslim and spiritual.

The Jacka is hella underated and Rob Loīs beats is some soulfull shit.
The real problem is generic gangster rap,not gangster rap itself.
Thereīs some generic bullshit alternative rap too,so donīt act like everything is good on "your" side of the fence.  >:(

The Team has a few gangsta lines and a lot of club songs and stuff, but they had a different sound going that has some nice appeal.

Personally I donīt feel them,but to each his own you know  ;)

Frontline is also pretty nice, their last album "Lock & Left" had no promotion or buzz, but it was pretty solid.

Shit was ok  ;)

Andre Nickatina have an alternative vibe to his music

^^^^yeah  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: alternative it is,bugged out  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I feel him,heīs funny.

I didn't see Chace Infinite mentioned, another L.A. cat who is nice on the mic.

I did,heīs a member of Self Scientific  ;)



How about checking out Shock G?

Shock G; Fear of a Mixed Planet
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61F9G5DTE5L._AA240_.jpg)
1-02 Cherry Flava'd Email.m4a featuring Ant D.O.G of the Link Crew
http://www.mediafire.com/?cgdkzmmmczm
1-04 Cinnamon Waves.m4a Featuring Ray Luv
http://www.mediafire.com/?37uwnnddl99

Use the dubCC search engine for the rest of the album  ;)



Have bumped this album for the last couple of days;
Visionaries - Pangaea Mear WCA did the cover  ;)
(http://bp3.blogger.com/_WZH6IzT6JYY/SCCTgykm3gI/AAAAAAAAAjw/H7Y--s7kEGM/s400/visionaries_pangaea_cover.jpg)

Must say the beats is banging,the whole Technicali click is dope.


I just finished checking two albums that suprised me.  :o :o
I had them in my radar for a minute,but was a little reluctant.  :P
RBX is featured on both albums,but this is FAR from gangster rap,just straight up Hip Hop.
Hereīs a couple of tracks from the albums,check them out and leave comments.  ;)

Visionaries; We Are the Ones (We've Been Waiting For)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41cTS0diYIL._AA240_.jpg)
Visionaries - Need to learn (features RBX,Brotha J (X-Clan) and Sadat X (Brand Nubian)) interesting combo  ;)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/8881303307c8b5/
02-visionaries-in_the_good_(ft._ariano).mp3  :firedevil: :firedevil:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mgw9f5yansz

LD and Ariano; A Thin line
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/518K6KGGB8L._AA240_.jpg)
5. Father Time is Ticking feat LMNO & RBX
http://www.mediafire.com/?lujgtntge4x
06 The Price Of Freedom 1.m4a:firedevil: :firedevil:
http://www.mediafire.com/?olaslm5b04f


Dre-Day hooked me up with this album today;
T-K.A.S.H. Turf War Syndrome
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51y6br9BPlL._AA240_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Turf-War-Syndrome-T-K-S-H/dp/B000EJ9NZ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1206836302&sr=1-1

Only listened to the album a couple of times,but I like what I heard so far.
Check this track out,it features Boots Riley from The Coup. Dope shit!!!
16 American Nightmare Long Version (Feat The Coup).mp3
http://www.mediafire.com/?xaigcyew3gh


^^^
the album is produced by Paris right?
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Laconic on March 30, 2008, 09:04:29 AM
^Yep Yep
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: HimselfTheMajestic on May 12, 2008, 08:03:18 PM
I used to fuck with a lot of "backpacker" west coast shit but eventually, i just got tired of it. The only artist's i still fuck with are the hiero crew(specifically del, even though his new shit was whack), scarub, murs, and luckyiam, 2 mex (he's really hit or miss though).

I just don't feel  a lot of it because it gets so abstract and corny that it almost doesn't even resemble hip hop anymore. Like they try and mix in too much bullshit, and lyrically, their later stuff gets as redundant as most gangster rap. They lose that hard edge that hardcore hip hop is supposed to have.

other then that, i fuck with a lot of psycho realm/sick symphonies and what not, Planet Asia of course, always on point.

I give bishop lamont alot of props for kinda trying to marry both styles together. I kinda see him as a harder version of murs with better production and a lazier flow.

also, any of yall remember that beneath the surface album that came out a bit back? it basically had the whole project blow'd family plus a bunch of other cats from all over LA and i think the bay too on it. that was some serious abstract production/rhyming type shit. i used to stay bumping that shit.
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: Chad Vader on May 12, 2008, 08:32:38 PM
And I definitely agree about there being plenty of garbage alternative rap and all that,
but I was just trying to make it relate to this topic.

 :) sure,cats blame everything on gangster rap.  :laugh:
Just because you like alternative it doesnīt mean itīs better than gangster rap.....
Itīs all the same,you find dope and wak shit in both camps.

I think Rob Lo's beats are incredibly underrated,
and would like to see him work more with some other sounds outside of the Mob Figaz just to get more variety and exposure.
I think Fed-X is really talented too, he sounds like he puts so much effort into his rhymes and has a nice style.


Rob Lo is hella tight,people is really sleeping on him.
He shold produce album for Too Short or something,get him off that hyphy shit  >:(

Also, I don't think this was mentioned, but the Prophets of Rage, and especially, Rico Pabon.
Sometimes he rhymes in Spanish which really isn't my thing, but he has some good music.
I actually found out about him at a concert through my college music class, so that was really cool.
I'll try to up something in a little bit, but check him out because he is talented and has a cool sound.

Only heard their names,but not familier with their music.



I used to fuck with a lot of "backpacker" west coast shit but eventually, i just got tired of it.
The only artist's i still fuck with are the hiero crew
(specifically del, even though his new shit was whack), scarub, murs, and luckyiam, 2 mex (he's really hit or miss though).

I just don't feel  a lot of it because it gets so abstract and corny that it almost doesn't even resemble hip hop anymore.
Like they try and mix in too much bullshit, and lyrically, their later stuff gets as redundant as most gangster rap.
They lose that hard edge that hardcore hip hop is supposed to have.

Well,you seem to mix up Hip Hop with alternative rap...
I know all these (sub) generes can be confusing,since some of these artists mix them up.  :P :P
But I get and understand what youīre saying though  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: J Bananas on May 12, 2008, 08:49:46 PM
Oh shit, I forgot I started this thread with one of my aliases. nice
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: eazye on May 31, 2008, 09:33:12 AM
I'm still really behind on most of the artist that have been discussed, but I will change that in the future

I really like Murs, he's really dope, and I ain;t even checked half of his material

I've heard some loose tracks from the Hiero crew and thought they were dope, but nothin' really special.I really REALLY like Extra Prolific tho, his 1994 album Like It Should Be is GREAT (I plan on making a thread about it), and I don't really know why he was kicked out of the crew

Paris is the shit too
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: MediumL on May 31, 2008, 09:39:25 AM
Pharcyde  8)
Title: Re: Westcoast artists not focused on guns, money, redundant gangsta bullshit
Post by: K.Dub on June 01, 2008, 12:41:29 PM
I've heard 6-7 tracks from that LD & Adriano. It's real tight!