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Title: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: wcsoldier on October 05, 2007, 08:19:01 AM
http://www.spinemagazine.com/music/october/nas/survivingthetimes.mp3

Thanks to Spinemag ... that's Nas at his best
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Meho on October 05, 2007, 08:28:39 AM
Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
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Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 05, 2007, 08:31:31 AM
Props, I love real hip hop!!!!!! 1+
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Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on October 05, 2007, 08:45:34 AM
Nice
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Post by: Man On The Moon on October 05, 2007, 09:41:08 AM
Damn this shit is so sick!!!!
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Post by: Lazar on October 05, 2007, 09:53:19 AM
Great track
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Post by: WC Iz Active on October 05, 2007, 10:17:04 AM
wow!!  fuckin great!
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Post by: k1000 on October 05, 2007, 11:35:31 AM
Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
isnt that song known by everybody, from the Rush Hour 3 OST
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Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on October 05, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
WOAH, this is like nas's old shit!! CHRIS WEBBER really outdid himslf with this beat!! This and Blunt Ashes are dope as fuck 8)
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Meho on October 05, 2007, 01:37:28 PM
Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
isnt that song known by everybody, from the Rush Hour 3 OST

Didnt know that, hook up please.

And damn, Chris Webber did this ? Dude got talent.
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Simon From Poland on October 05, 2007, 01:48:50 PM
That sounds great! But I'm not waiting for Nas's "Greatest Hits", cuz if I want, I can come back to his albums from back in the days.
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Post by: boycriedwolf619 on October 05, 2007, 04:18:11 PM
Great song indeed, can't wait to hear the joint with Cee-Lo too.
isnt that song known by everybody, from the Rush Hour 3 OST
Yea, I was confused  because if this is on a greatest hits cd, then how could it be exclusive , etc. but whatever its cool song, didn't know it was on the soundtrack of rush hour 3
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Bones01 on October 05, 2007, 04:23:57 PM
theres apprently one new track on the greatest hits. Isn't Chris Webber a basketball player ???
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: K.Dub on October 06, 2007, 03:29:27 AM
This is a great track! Props
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Post by: eazye on October 06, 2007, 03:48:04 AM
Damn, listenin him reminisce on how he and Akinyele were trying to find a deal back in the day is some truly sick shit man, props

Excellent track 8)
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Post by: Oklin on October 06, 2007, 05:28:23 AM
Dope track indeed
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Post by: G-lock on October 06, 2007, 08:41:27 AM
This is a great track! Props

You said it!
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Post by: *Z* - The Queen of Dubcc on October 06, 2007, 08:50:58 AM
fucking amazing! prpz
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Post by: Man On The Moon on October 06, 2007, 09:22:15 AM
Man, been bumpin' this track no-stop.
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Post by: JMan on October 06, 2007, 09:28:41 AM
now this is what im talking about, great track  :)
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Post by: Don Mega on October 06, 2007, 11:23:27 AM
Damn, imagine if this was the standard for hiphop.
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Post by: PLANT on October 06, 2007, 01:10:42 PM
prizzops, great track!
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Post by: ThatSICCNESS on October 06, 2007, 11:20:29 PM
sicc...  8) great track
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on October 06, 2007, 11:32:36 PM
Thats the shiiiiiit
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Post by: D1G1T4L on October 07, 2007, 10:48:44 AM
what sample is that in the beat
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Post by: bez on October 07, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
love it
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Post by: everlast1986 on October 07, 2007, 12:42:03 PM
Wow this is better than every song on 'Hip Hop Is Dead'.
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Post by: Invincible on October 07, 2007, 08:33:04 PM
I've bumped this about 10 times today. Beat is sick.
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Man On The Moon on October 07, 2007, 10:55:54 PM
what sample is that in the beat

Nippey Russell - What Would I Do if i Could Feel, off "The Wiz" soundtrack.
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: jeromechickenbone on October 07, 2007, 11:49:13 PM
Nas rules
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Lil Jay on October 08, 2007, 04:37:31 AM
I've bumped this about 10 times today. Beat is sick.
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: es-jay on October 08, 2007, 05:28:53 AM
good song, a bit of controversy surrounding the track though...

(from D12World/Wordsmith's MySpace)


Wordsmith Issued Statement,

It has been brought to Wordsmith's attention that Nas released a track last Friday called "Surviving the Game/Times" that closely resembles his track, "As the Art Fades Away," Produced by Strada. Word is a huge Nas fan, so he is sad to see something like this is possible and he doesn't want to jump to conclusions either. Word debated over even speaking on this issue because he is not trying to build his career off of someone else's fame and he prides himself on that. Wordsmith had this to say:

I wrote my track "As the Art Fades Away" in 2006, as an unofficial version that I actually recently re-recorded for my debut album "The Next Level Experience" on Saturday, October 6th until I heard about this. My in house producer Strada made this beat a year ago and I am here to just state the facts and not attack Nas, so I just ask that everyone judges this fairly. No producer is going start a track the exact same way and no producer is going use the same sounds, loops, rhythems, etc. to create a track. My version starts off with a sample of my own voice saying "The pop rap charts make the art fade away" followed by "That's the whole tragic point my friend." Now, whoever produced Nas's version, and I heard its Chris Webber, which sounds rather odd to me, would not start there track off with the same sample unless they heard it somewhere else first. To me they strung the sample out from there, so it would sound different, but the piano, horn, and baseline are exactly the same way my producer laid his.

Two, my producer used "What Would I do" as the hook part of my song and I Chose to fill it in by saying Imagine if certain rappers never did what they did, how would the game be. Nas's version uses the same concept, but the producer uses a different section of the song where its says,"What Would I do," from the Wiz and just looped the hook. I have never officially released this track and it can only be heard on my myspace page. I put it out last year because I felt the game really needed it, but I like I said I have re-recorded it with no samples and a female singing on the hook, so it is radio ready to be dropped as my first official single on December 1st. I still filed it with ASCAP last year and anybody can look up my name at ascap.com to see I registered it last year along with the BDS. Furthermore, Nas has the same concept as me and I just want to say this again, no two rappers are going write about the same thing when they hear a beat and no two producers are going to produce a beat the same exact way. With that said, that's what makes music unique; the fact that any musician has the creative freedom to create something special from scratch, that's what keeps music fresh. I don't really know what else to say, but that I am disappointed in one of our greats, but at the same time, I do not know Nas or Chris Webber for that matter, so I can't really say what happened. I do know the Wiz movie has been out there since Nas and I were kids and millions of producers could of sampled it, but my Producer Strada had the idea first, so that tells me something, but until the facts come out I am just speculating.

Finally, please don't look at this as I am complaining because I am not, I just felt the need to speak on it because so many great people have come to my defense, so I would like to thank everyone out there for that and I even would like to think any haters as well because we all have a job to do. So what I have done is post links to both tracks below, pleasecheck them out and leave your comments. Thanks for everyone's time and lets not make this a bash session, but a good old fashioned challenge to Nas and the fans. Let us know who has the better track because my official version of "As the Art Fades Away" will drop on December 1st followed by the Video on MTV and BET, so look out for me, PEACE!!!

Wordsmith-As the Art Fades Away (Produced by Strada/Click for Unofficial Release on Myspace)
http://myspace.com/classicwordsmithmusic
http://board.rapbasement.com/showthread.php?t=386219
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on October 08, 2007, 07:19:05 AM
good song, a bit of controversy surrounding the track though...

(from D12World/Wordsmith's MySpace)


Wordsmith Issued Statement,

It has been brought to Wordsmith's attention that Nas released a track last Friday called "Surviving the Game/Times" that closely resembles his track, "As the Art Fades Away," Produced by Strada. Word is a huge Nas fan, so he is sad to see something like this is possible and he doesn't want to jump to conclusions either. Word debated over even speaking on this issue because he is not trying to build his career off of someone else's fame and he prides himself on that. Wordsmith had this to say:

I wrote my track "As the Art Fades Away" in 2006, as an unofficial version that I actually recently re-recorded for my debut album "The Next Level Experience" on Saturday, October 6th until I heard about this. My in house producer Strada made this beat a year ago and I am here to just state the facts and not attack Nas, so I just ask that everyone judges this fairly. No producer is going start a track the exact same way and no producer is going use the same sounds, loops, rhythems, etc. to create a track. My version starts off with a sample of my own voice saying "The pop rap charts make the art fade away" followed by "That's the whole tragic point my friend." Now, whoever produced Nas's version, and I heard its Chris Webber, which sounds rather odd to me, would not start there track off with the same sample unless they heard it somewhere else first. To me they strung the sample out from there, so it would sound different, but the piano, horn, and baseline are exactly the same way my producer laid his.

Two, my producer used "What Would I do" as the hook part of my song and I Chose to fill it in by saying Imagine if certain rappers never did what they did, how would the game be. Nas's version uses the same concept, but the producer uses a different section of the song where its says,"What Would I do," from the Wiz and just looped the hook. I have never officially released this track and it can only be heard on my myspace page. I put it out last year because I felt the game really needed it, but I like I said I have re-recorded it with no samples and a female singing on the hook, so it is radio ready to be dropped as my first official single on December 1st. I still filed it with ASCAP last year and anybody can look up my name at ascap.com to see I registered it last year along with the BDS. Furthermore, Nas has the same concept as me and I just want to say this again, no two rappers are going write about the same thing when they hear a beat and no two producers are going to produce a beat the same exact way. With that said, that's what makes music unique; the fact that any musician has the creative freedom to create something special from scratch, that's what keeps music fresh. I don't really know what else to say, but that I am disappointed in one of our greats, but at the same time, I do not know Nas or Chris Webber for that matter, so I can't really say what happened. I do know the Wiz movie has been out there since Nas and I were kids and millions of producers could of sampled it, but my Producer Strada had the idea first, so that tells me something, but until the facts come out I am just speculating.

Finally, please don't look at this as I am complaining because I am not, I just felt the need to speak on it because so many great people have come to my defense, so I would like to thank everyone out there for that and I even would like to think any haters as well because we all have a job to do. So what I have done is post links to both tracks below, pleasecheck them out and leave your comments. Thanks for everyone's time and lets not make this a bash session, but a good old fashioned challenge to Nas and the fans. Let us know who has the better track because my official version of "As the Art Fades Away" will drop on December 1st followed by the Video on MTV and BET, so look out for me, PEACE!!!

Wordsmith-As the Art Fades Away (Produced by Strada/Click for Unofficial Release on Myspace)
http://myspace.com/classicwordsmithmusic
http://board.rapbasement.com/showthread.php?t=386219

Hmmn it'll be interesting to see how this pans outs, wonder if CHRIS WEBBER (Yes, the basketball player and producer of 'Blunt Ashes') really robbed this beat ??? ....
Title: Re: WOW ... New NAS song from his upcoming greatest hits album
Post by: Bones01 on October 08, 2007, 08:10:35 PM
yeah those beats sound identical. Dude's version is not bad either