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Title: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on October 24, 2007, 05:03:25 AM
what are your thoughts on this track? I only heard it in bad quality sounds like somebody ripped it off a cassette but from what I heard it sounds like a track from Warren G's album "Runnin Wit No Brakes" basicially the same beat and Snoop and Dre goiing back and forth rapping, I think it would have been a dope addition to Doggystyle since there are no Dre features
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: 3331 on October 24, 2007, 05:04:26 AM
i like that song more then half of doggystyle. shit's tight as hell.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: drakeshakenbake on October 24, 2007, 05:12:49 AM
its tight.. shame we probably will never hear a proper version..
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: topshotta on October 24, 2007, 05:51:33 AM
It's a very good track that should've and could've EASILY been on "Doggystyle". I don't think the track is overrated or anything like that, it's just too bad it wasn't included on the album!
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 24, 2007, 07:13:30 AM
the whistling effect is so dope  8)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 24, 2007, 07:33:15 AM
hell nah that track ain't overrated other than Tha Shiznit and Gz And Hustlaz I never heard Snoop flow like that ever :o
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 24, 2007, 10:20:46 AM
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 24, 2007, 12:00:42 PM
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.

No Iīm with you....
It's dope,but I still think it's a little overated and we praise it a little
TOO MUCH because it's a UNRELEASED Dre and Snoop track.
Dubcc favorite duo,so "we're" a little biased,right?
That said I hope we will get the track in CDQ,now that Geffen is trying to buy the rights to Death Row's catalog.

offcourse it's a bit overrated, but aside from that it's still a great g-funk song imo.
but i doubt it will ever officially be released. i mean, if it was so easy(not saying that you said it was), suge probably would have put it on the snoop doggy dogg's death row greatest hits (since he put some other unreleased songs on the album as well). since the song is produced by dre, and dre is featured on it, suge knew that he wouldn't get away with it.
i'm kinda suprised there are still so many lawsuits against death row going on though ( dre recently started a new lawsuit right? why so late, it's not like he was threatened by suge? dre does have a lot of security right).
i hope as much as you do, that the track will be released in better quality; the lawsuits should be settled ....and lol at all these companies willing to buy death row ( but for the material that may be released in the future, it probably won't make much of a difference).
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on October 24, 2007, 12:24:44 PM
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.

No Iīm with you....
It's dope,but I still think it's a little overated and we praise it a little
TOO MUCH because it's a UNRELEASED Dre and Snoop track.
Dubcc favorite duo,so "we're" a little biased,right?
That said I hope we will get the track in CDQ,now that Geffen is trying to buy the rights to Death Row's catalog.

offcourse it's a bit overrated, but aside from that it's still a great g-funk song imo.
but i doubt it will ever officially be released. i mean, if it was so easy
(not saying that you said it was), suge probably would have put it on the snoop doggy dogg's death row greatest hits
(since he put some other unreleased songs on the album as well).
since the song is produced by dre, and dre is featured on it, suge knew that he wouldn't get away with it.
i'm kinda suprised there are still so many lawsuits against death row going on though
(dre recently started a new lawsuit right? why so late, it's not like he was threatened by suge? dre does have a lot of security right).
i hope as much as you do, that the track will be released in better quality; the lawsuits should be settled
....and lol at all these companies willing to buy death row
( but for the material that may be released in the future, it probably won't make much of a difference).

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/1831710013_17b05f351b.jpg?v=0)
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature 4 unreleased produced Dre tracks,
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.
There was another thread about the dilema youīre talking about;
if it would matter who owns them or not.
Well if Geffen buys them and is on better terms with Dre than Suge,maybe they can work something out?
Iīm not holding my breath,but letīs see how it plays out when it comes down business.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 24, 2007, 12:42:51 PM

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature X produced Dre tracks (canīt remember how many right now),
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.
lol, i've never seen any of those ads  :laugh: yeah i guess suge somehow thought he could release them and make some money ( that's probably why he didn't just leak them on the internet. maybe he thought he would sell it to a website, such as for the people entertainment).
and even if a big company buys it, and the original issue with the sample clearance still isn't resolved, then they can resolve it the same way as with the song come & go right, just sharing the production/writing credits with all people involved, and split the profit(or something like that, don't know how exactly how they settled it with come & go ).
but was the song ever finished, otherwise it may not be possible to release it in cdq? i know that the full version has leaked, but i don't know how good the quality is of the original master that is somewhere in the vaults, and if it's possible to simply remaster it?
about the "dilemma"; i guess i won't make the same mistake again, and switch the subject of the topic, so i'll just quote a part of your post that is relevant for the other topic, and reply there.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on October 24, 2007, 01:11:42 PM

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature X produced Dre tracks (canīt remember how many right now),
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.
lol, i've never seen any of those ads  :laugh: yeah i guess suge somehow thought he could release them and make some money ( that's probably why he didn't just leak them on the internet. maybe he thought he would sell it to a website, such as for the people entertainment).
and even if a big company buys it, and the original issue with the sample clearance still isn't resolved, then they can resolve it the same way as with the song come & go right, just sharing the production/writing credits with all people involved, and split the profit(or something like that, don't know how exactly how they settled it with come & go ).
but was the song ever finished, otherwise it may not be possible to release it in cdq? i know that the full version has leaked, but i don't know how good the quality is of the original master that is somewhere in the vaults, and if it's possible to simply remaster it?
about the "dilemma"; i guess i won't make the same mistake again, and switch the subject of the topic, so i'll just quote a part of your post that is relevant for the other topic, and reply there.



I was not part of the other thread,just remember reading it.
You kind of stayed on topic and made it more interesting,so if you ask me you didnīt do anything wrong.  :D
Youīre still talking about the OG Next Episode right?
Hereīs the deal (as I have been told),it exist on promo vinyl. (at least)
How many copies of this vinyl there is I donīt know,
but word is that Funkmaster Flex got a copy and has played on his Radio show in NYC back then.
If this is true or not,I canīt tell,but thatīs how the story goes as I was told it.
I also remember there was some drama about a sample issue right before Doggystyle dropped,
there was rumors about a Madonna sample that didnīt clear,
I have not heard about this Madonna issue since then and at the time assumed
that it was the Next Episode sample that didnīt get cleared.
So when finally the OG Next Episode leaked in the end of the 90īs,there was no Madonna sample on it,so I guess itīs another unreleased track or it was just some bullshit rumor.

The "dilema" convo continues in the next thread.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Sosna on October 24, 2007, 01:16:16 PM
"Doggystyle" should be re-released with all leftovers from it in CDQ as bonus tracks... 8)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 24, 2007, 01:32:54 PM

You kind of stayed on topic and made it more interesting,so if you ask me you didnīt do anything wrong.  :D
Youīre still talking about the OG Next Episode right?
Hereīs the deal (as I have been told),it exist on promo vinyl. (at least)
How many copies of this vinyl there is I donīt know,
but word is that Funkmaster Flex got a copy and has played on his Radio show in NYC back then.
If this is true or not,I canīt tell,but thatīs how the story goes as I was told it.
I also remember there was some drama about a sample issue right before Doggystyle dropped,
there was rumors about a Madonna sample that didnīt clear,
I have not heard about this Madonna issue since then and at the time assumed
that it was the Next Episode sample that didnīt get cleared.
So when finally the OG Next Episode leaked in the end of the 90īs,there was no Madonna sample on it,so I guess itīs another unreleased track or it was just some bullshit rumor.
lol some parts of my posts were not really offtopic, but they weren't just about the next episode OG master. i was just saying that, the same thing could happen as in an other topic, where the subject matter slightly changed as more replies were posted (from a bad wannabe dre act freepost topic to serious detox talk lol) :D

and yeah it's been 14 years, so some things you mentioned are probably just rumors, but hey, who knows.
but if there is a promo vinyl, that would mean it's still possible to remaster it right?
funny though, not sure if this is related, but have you heard that 1-8-7 track from the 15 years on death row compilation ( i think the song is also on chronicle, death row classics), it sounds so different. i know that a normal deep cover version, and a remix exist, but the one from that compilation is different from those 2 ( if you haven't heard it, listen to a snippet from amazon.com here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000FA5FCI001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/105-2486836-0947610 it has different drums )
so if the next episode OG is going to be remastered, will the same thing happen as with the 187 track ( that the remastered version sounds different than the OG), or not ( if not, that would mean that death row just messed up "187")  :laugh:
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Serio_818 on October 24, 2007, 01:56:02 PM
can somebody post up the track even if bad quality
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 24, 2007, 02:04:22 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on October 24, 2007, 02:16:12 PM

You kind of stayed on topic and made it more interesting,so if you ask me you didnīt do anything wrong.  :D
Youīre still talking about the OG Next Episode right?
Hereīs the deal (as I have been told),it exist on promo vinyl. (at least)
How many copies of this vinyl there is I donīt know,
but word is that Funkmaster Flex got a copy and has played on his Radio show in NYC back then.
If this is true or not,I canīt tell,but thatīs how the story goes as I was told it.
I also remember there was some drama about a sample issue right before Doggystyle dropped,
there was rumors about a Madonna sample that didnīt clear,
I have not heard about this Madonna issue since then and at the time assumed
that it was the Next Episode sample that didnīt get cleared.
So when finally the OG Next Episode leaked in the end of the 90īs,there was no Madonna sample on it,so I guess itīs another unreleased track or it was just some bullshit rumor.
lol some parts of my posts were not really offtopic,but they weren't just about the next episode OG master.
I was just saying that, the same thing could happen as in an other topic, where the subject matter slightly changed as more replies were posted
(from a bad wannabe dre act freepost topic to serious detox talk lol) :D

and yeah it's been 14 years, so some things you mentioned are probably just rumors, but hey, who knows.
but if there is a promo vinyl, that would mean it's still possible to remaster it right?
funny though, not sure if this is related, but have you heard that 1-8-7 track from the 15 years on death row compilation
(i think the song is also on chronicle, death row classics), it sounds so different.
I know that a normal deep cover version,and a remix exist,but the one from that compilation is different from those 2
(if you haven't heard it, listen to a snippet from amazon.com here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000FA5FCI001001/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_001/105-2486836-0947610
it has different drums)
so if the next episode OG is going to be remastered, will the same thing happen as with the 187 track
(that the remastered version sounds different than the OG), or not
(if not, that would mean that death row just messed up "187")  :laugh:

That was a hard one because it wasnīt exactly CDQ from your link,but the drums sounded different. True,true.
The 187 track appears a couple of places,I believe it first appeared on the Let Me Ride single.
Then on re-issues of the Deep Cover OST,
I has always tought the drums hit a little harder on "187" than on Deep Cover,maybe Iīm imagine things?
Oh well,so what youīre basicilly saying is that if they remaster it,it will coming out sounding different?
Donīt Funkmaster Flex have a myspace or something?
Maybe someone can send him a message and ask,I wouldnīt bother to answer if I was him,but hey why not?

....and props for turning bullshit threads to interesting convos and for hitting up other threads if you goes off topic.




dre's lyrics are different on that version and the bass line is different than the original i have on 12"

But now you're talking about Deep Cover and 187,right?
Dre-Day is talking about a remastered 187 track that he thinks the drums sound different,he posted a link for it.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 24, 2007, 03:22:04 PM
^
damn homie it sounds like you and the other dude are the same person LOL
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Serio_818 on October 24, 2007, 04:18:53 PM
dre's lyrics are different on that version and the bass line is different than the original i have on 12"
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Serio_818 on October 24, 2007, 04:36:32 PM
dre's lyrics are different on that version and the bass line is different than the original i have on 12"

But now you're talking about Deep Cover and 187,right?
Dre-Day is talking about a remastered 187 track that he thinks the drums sound different,he posted a link for it.

yeah i was talking about deep cover
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 24, 2007, 06:23:06 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

damn that's some shitty quality LOL, still dope as fuck tho I never heard Dre and Snoop rap that dope on the same track 8)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 25, 2007, 03:21:17 AM
....and props for turning bullshit threads to interesting convos and for hitting up other threads if you goes off topic.
you're welcome; apparently some ppl don't like discussions, cause my karma level keeps going down lately. not that i have a big problem with ppl increasing or decreasing my karma level, but it would be so much better if they would also tell me why they (dis)agree with me to keep the discussions going.
That was a hard one because it wasnīt exactly CDQ from your link,but the drums sounded different. True,true.
The 187 track appears a couple of places,I believe it first appeared on the Let Me Ride single.
Then on re-issues of the Deep Cover OST,
I has always tought the drums hit a little harder on "187" than on Deep Cover,maybe Iīm imagine things?
Oh well,so what youīre basicilly saying is that if they remaster it,it will coming out sounding different?
if anybody is interested, here is the alternate remastered version of 187: http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/ (i think the OG 187 is better, the remastered version misses something).
anyway, i don't have the death row vaults in my room, so i can't back up my theory, it's just strange that deep cover was never put on a death row compilation ( as far as i know, so correct me if i'm wrong).
but death row also messed up "fuck with dre day", when they remastered it, so it's hopefully just possible to restore The Next Episode OG succesfully in it's original form ( what normally happens with old recordings).
by the way, i just realised that death row sort of remastered the 187 OG in it's original form on the death row singles collection ( which makes it even stranger why they put a slightly different version of 187 on other compilations, damn they certainly know how to mess it up lol); here it is http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

damn that's some shitty quality LOL, still dope as fuck tho I never heard Dre and Snoop rap that dope on the same track 8)
yeah i know, now you probably understand why this topic was created  ;)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on October 25, 2007, 03:31:46 AM
props for all the replies, I always liked the way Snoop ripped it on "187" not to say its better than Deep Cover but just as dope to me, as for the OG Next Episode I am in NYC and never heard that Flex played it but it could be true I remember that before "What's My Name?" officially came out they used to play a version I think with only one verse and used to bleep out the curse words this was around September of '93
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on October 25, 2007, 04:14:14 AM
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)

edit: ok, now i know that this is real, i might as well upload Gz up hoes down  :laugh:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/44386395d850a7/

edit2: ill put my reply here to prevent total change of subject;


Now I got confused which one is the remastered version?
Because I got the original,so donīt need that.

Hmmm,there has been 100 off threads about this but Dre-Day managed to turn it into something interesting.
So again got to give it up to Dre-Day and hopefully more people will follow his example.
sorry for confusing you, but at first i thought that death row didn't remaster 187 in it's original form. that's why i posted a link to the alternate remastered version.
but then i realised that koch put the OG remastered version of 187 on the recently released death row singles compilation.
so the first download link in my post was the alternate 187 remastered version, and the 2nd download link is the OG remastered one ( the one you have, but with slightly better sound quality), so it's up to you whether you want to download them or not  ;)
and thanks for the compliment, i always try to stay away from certain topics, but i guess i need to be more careful lol.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on October 25, 2007, 04:31:30 AM
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)


yeah thats the one I have, it was the first pressings of the CD with Gz Up Hoez Down on(short track but another classic really smooth and goes well with the 2nd half of Doggystyle)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on October 25, 2007, 05:20:25 AM
....and props for turning bullshit threads to interesting convos and for hitting up other threads if you goes off topic.

you're welcome; apparently some ppl don't like discussions,cause my karma level keeps going down lately.
not that i have a big problem with ppl increasing or decreasing my karma level,
but it would be so much better if they would also tell me why they (dis)agree with me to keep the discussions going.

The thing is that people in here can be two face,they donīt dare to say it to your face but love to push the karma button.
Al Bundy has made a thread about it Fuck The Haters;
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=155701.0
I donīt know if you have noticed but negative threads always get more attention
than positive and constructive threads that bring interesting things to the table.
I guess thatīs just how it is.

That was a hard one because it wasnīt exactly CDQ from your link,but the drums sounded different. True,true.
The 187 track appears a couple of places,I believe it first appeared on the Let Me Ride single.
Then on re-issues of the Deep Cover OST,
I has always tought the drums hit a little harder on "187" than on Deep Cover,maybe Iīm imagine things?
Oh well,so what youīre basicilly saying is that if they remaster it,it will coming out sounding different?

if anybody is interested, here is the alternate remastered version of 187:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/
(i think the OG 187 is better, the remastered version misses something).
anyway, i don't have the death row vaults in my room, so i can't back up my theory,
it's just strange that deep cover was never put on a death row compilation ( as far as i know, so correct me if i'm wrong).
but death row also messed up "fuck with dre day", when they remastered it,
so it's hopefully just possible to restore The Next Episode OG succesfully in it's original form
(what normally happens with old recordings).
by the way, i just realised that death row sort of remastered the 187 OG
in it's original from on the death row singles collection
(which makes it even stranger why they put a slightly different version of 187 on other compilations,
damn they certainly know how to mess it up lol); here it is
http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

Now I got confused which one is the remastered version?
Because I got the original,so donīt need that.

damn that's some shitty quality LOL, still dope as fuck tho I never heard Dre and Snoop rap that dope on the same track 8)
yeah i know, now you probably understand why this topic was created  ;)

Hmmm,there has been 100 off threads about this but Dre-Day managed to turn it into something interesting.
So again got to give it up to Dre-Day and hopefully more people will follow his example.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 25, 2007, 05:37:33 AM
^
dude you need to chill with what makes things interesting and what doesn't the song is in shitty quality man wtf
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 25, 2007, 09:31:27 AM
^
dude you need to chill with what makes things interesting and what doesn't the song is in shitty quality man wtf

? What? I didnīt say anything like that?
Iīm just having a convo about the facts around the OG Next Episode track.
If you go back a couple of post I said I think itīs over rated,but still dope.

nah you need to chill with this you got like 3 different aliases and act like you run shit
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 25, 2007, 09:55:29 AM
^
dude you need to chill with what makes things interesting and what doesn't the song is in shitty quality man wtf

? What? I didnīt say anything like that?
Iīm just having a convo about the facts around the OG Next Episode track.
If you go back a couple of post I said I think itīs over rated,but still dope.

nah you need to chill with this you got like 3 different aliases and act like you run shit

Dre-Day,Vader and HighEyeQue,hello we know it all and run shit....
I think you got things twisted kid,,,,,, chill and read the posts thoroughly,then you will see....

glad that you finally admitted it
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: MIAMI4LIFE on October 25, 2007, 11:07:08 AM
^
dude you need to chill with what makes things interesting and what doesn't the song is in shitty quality man wtf

? What? I didnīt say anything like that?
Iīm just having a convo about the facts around the OG Next Episode track.
If you go back a couple of post I said I think itīs over rated,but still dope.

nah you need to chill with this you got like 3 different aliases and act like you run shit

Dre-Day,Vader and HighEyeQue,hello we know it all and run shit....
I think you got things twisted kid,,,,,, chill and read the posts thoroughly,then you will see....

glad that you finally admitted it

you got it wrong homie no one is putting people down I just made this thread cause I thought it was an interesting topic its obvious the track is in poor quality there's no need to get heated and I don't claim to know more than anyone plus my screen name does not indicate that I do its was kind of a joke me and a few friends took an online IQ test in college about 4 years ago and I scored the highest and thats what they started calling me just to let you know I aint no genius or anything, +1 to everyone in this it was interesting
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 25, 2007, 11:37:24 AM
alright man I'm through with arguing about this, time to light one up 8)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Young Dan Iza on October 25, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
remember back in the days, there was some dude on the board that said his copy of doggystyle had the next episode included on it and that it was in crystal clear quality. he said he couldnt rip it cuz his cpu was slow but he posted on here like everyday, he said the cd was red instead of the blue picture of snoop and lastly he said he would trade it for a 64 impala or 10,000 bucks,,,whatever happened 2 him i miss him
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: DJSpin on October 25, 2007, 01:21:09 PM
remember back in the days, there was some dude on the board that said his copy of doggystyle had the next episode included on it and that it was in crystal clear quality. he said he couldnt rip it cuz his cpu was slow but he posted on here like everyday, he said the cd was red instead of the blue picture of snoop and lastly he said he would trade it for a 64 impala or 10,000 bucks,,,whatever happened 2 him i miss him

he sounds like a dweeb..   but lets find him so we can tell him he dont really have the song..he's full of it
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 29, 2007, 05:04:41 AM
remember back in the days, there was some dude on the board that said his copy of doggystyle had the next episode included on it and that it was in crystal clear quality. he said he couldnt rip it cuz his cpu was slow but he posted on here like everyday, he said the cd was red instead of the blue picture of snoop and lastly he said he would trade it for a 64 impala or 10,000 bucks,,,whatever happened 2 him i miss him

he sounds like a dweeb..   but lets find him so we can tell him he dont really have the song..he's full of it

yeah I remember wasn't a member back then but I used to surf these boards his name was jakedoggy dogg or something like that
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: smegma on October 29, 2007, 05:33:05 AM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=profile;u=2550

Dude was in his teens when he said this. I have forgiven him.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on October 30, 2007, 07:33:15 AM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?action=profile;u=2550

Dude was in his teens when he said this. I have forgiven him.

that's him? thought it was star wars dude lol
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: SP0RTY on October 30, 2007, 10:07:53 PM
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)

edit: ok, now i know that this is real, i might as well upload Gz up hoes down  :laugh:
http://www.zshare.net/audio/44386395d850a7/

edit2: ill put my reply here to prevent total change of subject;


Now I got confused which one is the remastered version?
Because I got the original,so donīt need that.

Hmmm,there has been 100 off threads about this but Dre-Day managed to turn it into something interesting.
So again got to give it up to Dre-Day and hopefully more people will follow his example.
sorry for confusing you, but at first i thought that death row didn't remaster 187 in it's original form. that's why i posted a link to the alternate remastered version.
but then i realised that koch put the OG remastered version of 187 on the recently released death row singles compilation.
so the first download link in my post was the alternate 187 remastered version, and the 2nd download link is the OG remastered one ( the one you have, but with slightly better sound quality), so it's up to you whether you want to download them or not  ;)
and thanks for the compliment, i always try to stay away from certain topics, but i guess i need to be more careful lol.
i dont even seee your links for either...am i trippin or are they not up anymore
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: SP0RTY on November 01, 2007, 10:28:32 PM
is it me or would this seem like an earlier version of nuthin but a g thang becuz they say that a couple of times ???
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 02, 2007, 02:24:35 AM
SP0RTY, are you still looking for both 187 versions? if so, they are still available:

187 alternate remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/

187 OG remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

and no i don't think Tha next episode is an earlier version of nuthin but a g thang; the track was supposed to be put on Doggystyle, HighEyeCue confirmed that it was listed on the back. snoop probably just recycled a small part of the lyrics.

Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 02, 2007, 03:39:38 AM
kinda confused who is miami4life?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on November 02, 2007, 02:55:09 PM

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature 4 unreleased Dre produced tracks,
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.

lol, i've never seen any of those ads  :laugh:

Found one of the adds,Suge was supposed to release 4 unreleased Dre tracks,
thereīs another add that says that Just Dogginī is on it (The Dr.Dre produced version)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/1831710013_17b05f351b.jpg?v=0)

Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: SP0RTY on November 02, 2007, 10:54:20 PM
SP0RTY, are you still looking for both 187 versions? if so, they are still available:

187 alternate remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/

187 OG remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

and no i don't think Tha next episode is an earlier version of nuthin but a g thang; the track was supposed to be put on Doggystyle, HighEyeCue confirmed that it was listed on the back. snoop probably just recycled a small part of the lyrics.


thanks hoime yea thats probably what it was it jus seems to have more of a nuthin but a g thang feel to me and at the end of each i dono what u call it but right before the hook starts they say and aint nuthin but a g thang baby...maybe they took the g thang song from something they said in this one
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 03, 2007, 01:16:06 AM
SP0RTY, are you still looking for both 187 versions? if so, they are still available:

187 alternate remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/

187 OG remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

and no i don't think Tha next episode is an earlier version of nuthin but a g thang; the track was supposed to be put on Doggystyle, HighEyeCue confirmed that it was listed on the back. snoop probably just recycled a small part of the lyrics.


thanks hoime yea thats probably what it was it jus seems to have more of a nuthin but a g thang feel to me and at the end of each i dono what u call it but right before the hook starts they say and aint nuthin but a g thang baby...maybe they took the g thang song from something they said in this one

I think its probably an earliler version of Gthang too they mentioned it in the song and they never mention next episode but they mention next episode in the original gthang
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 03, 2007, 01:45:53 AM

I donīt know if you remember the adds for Suge Knightīs Chronic 2000?
Well,in the adds it said that it was going to feature 4 unreleased Dre produced tracks,
anyway Dre went the legal way and stopped Death Row from releasing them and somehow that idiot Suge Knight have respected that.
Iīm sure he could have been sued crazy if he released them,but Suge could just leak them for the hell of it,right?.
But Suge probably knows that those tracks is a gold mine if he keeps on to them.

lol, i've never seen any of those ads  :laugh:

Found one of the adds,Suge was supposed to release 4 unreleased Dre tracks,
thereīs another add that says that Just Dogginī is on it (The Dr.Dre produced version)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/1831710013_17b05f351b.jpg?v=0)
haha nice job, that picture is hilarious; shameless promotion  :laugh: do you also have that other advertisement?  :D

SP0RTY, are you still looking for both 187 versions? if so, they are still available:

187 alternate remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/4436863909dcec/

187 OG remastered version: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44371298735c68/

and no i don't think Tha next episode is an earlier version of nuthin but a g thang; the track was supposed to be put on Doggystyle, HighEyeCue confirmed that it was listed on the back. snoop probably just recycled a small part of the lyrics.

thanks hoime yea thats probably what it was it jus seems to have more of a nuthin but a g thang feel to me and at the end of each i dono what u call it but right before the hook starts they say and aint nuthin but a g thang baby...maybe they took the g thang song from something they said in this one
you're welcome.yeah, nuthin but a g thang and next episode OG are both laid back g-funk tracks; but like i said, it is a doggystyle leftover. i don't know when the track was recorded, it could be right after nuthin but a g thang, but it also makes sense if the chronic was finished before any track of doggystyle was even recorded . i obviously wasn't there, so maybe dubcnn can talk about it when they interview snoop again.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 03, 2007, 05:04:54 AM
has this shit been proven that this was on the back cover of Doggystyle cuz my copy don't have it :-\
^
never mind this post my dumb ass saw it in the other thread ;D
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 03, 2007, 05:45:20 AM
Dre-Day I should have the other add,will up it when I come across it. Wonder what four tracks that was? Was the Just Doggin' OG one of them? or was it 4 Dre "solo" tracks? There's a couple of die hard Death Row fans on this site,maybe they know something about this?
ok would be great if you can find the other one  ;)

well just doggin OG was released before the chronic 2000 right? but the advertisement that you were talking about mentioned just doggin, so that would mean that just doggin og is one of the four( but then again, i haven't seen that ad, so maybe it said 4 unreleased tracks and just doggin or something like that).
but maybe Suge was just bluffing. i mean, dr.dre had a studio at home right? i know that 4 tracks is not much, so suge could be telling the truth, but if his statement was true, then the tracks must be from the period 92-94(that's when dre was recording material at the death row offices right?).
i'm just speculating, so i guess we need some die hard death row fans to clear this up; Inmate, DJR, Tha psycho hustla?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on November 03, 2007, 07:49:54 AM
Dre-Day I should have the other add,will up it when I come across it. Wonder what four tracks that was? Was the Just Doggin' OG one of them? or was it 4 Dre "solo" tracks? There's a couple of die hard Death Row fans on this site,maybe they know something about this?

ok would be great if you can find the other one  ;)

Will do so when I come across it.....  :)

Well just doggin OG was released before the Chronic 2000 right?
But the advertisement that you were talking about mentioned Just Doggin,so that would mean that just doggin og is one of the four
(but then again,I haven't seen that ad,so maybe it said 4 unreleased tracks and Just Doggin or something like that).
But maybe Suge was just bluffing. I mean,Dr.Dre had a studio at home right?
I know that 4 tracks is not much,so Suge could be telling the truth,but if his statement was true,
then the tracks must be from the period 92-94 (that's when dre was recording material at the Death Row offices right?).
I'm just speculating,so i guess we need some die hard Death Row fans to clear this up; Inmate, DJR,Tha psycho hustla?

If I remember the add right,it said;
Featuring the hit single Just Dogginīproduced by Dr.Dre.
I told you before that Dre stopped Suge/Death Row to release those tracks,so theyīre real.
I think I got a article about that in a magazine somewhere too. When I come across it again,I will post it.  :)
Not sure when Dre moved his studio to his crib,but around 94/95 seems right.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 03, 2007, 02:54:48 PM
Dre-Day I should have the other add,will up it when I come across it. Wonder what four tracks that was? Was the Just Doggin' OG one of them? or was it 4 Dre "solo" tracks? There's a couple of die hard Death Row fans on this site,maybe they know something about this?

ok would be great if you can find the other one  ;)

Will do so when I come across it.....  :)

Well just doggin OG was released before the Chronic 2000 right?
But the advertisement that you were talking about mentioned Just Doggin,so that would mean that just doggin og is one of the four
(but then again,I haven't seen that ad,so maybe it said 4 unreleased tracks and Just Doggin or something like that).
But maybe Suge was just bluffing. I mean,Dr.Dre had a studio at home right?
I know that 4 tracks is not much,so Suge could be telling the truth,but if his statement was true,
then the tracks must be from the period 92-94 (that's when dre was recording material at the Death Row offices right?).
I'm just speculating,so i guess we need some die hard Death Row fans to clear this up; Inmate, DJR,Tha psycho hustla?
If I remember the add right,it said;
Featuring the hit single Just Dogginīproduced by Dr.Dre.
I told you before that Dre stopped Suge/Death Row to release those tracks,so theyīre real.
I think I got a article about that in a magazine somewhere too. When I come across it again,I will post it.  :)
Not sure when Dre moved his studio to his crib,but around 94/95 seems right.
my bad. but i doubt that those 4 tracks are all dr.dre solo's (tha next episode might be one of them though)
by the way, i found something:
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/c0/e7/1bd5_1.JPG)
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-226045-1098471919.gif)
HEC, if you read this, maybe you can scan your back cover of doggystyle if you have a scanner


Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on November 03, 2007, 05:06:07 PM
Dre-Day I should have the other add,will up it when I come across it. Wonder what four tracks that was? Was the Just Doggin' OG one of them? or was it 4 Dre "solo" tracks? There's a couple of die hard Death Row fans on this site,maybe they know something about this?

ok would be great if you can find the other one  ;)

Will do so when I come across it.....  :)

Well just doggin OG was released before the Chronic 2000 right?
But the advertisement that you were talking about mentioned Just Doggin,so that would mean that just doggin og is one of the four
(but then again,I haven't seen that ad,so maybe it said 4 unreleased tracks and Just Doggin or something like that).
But maybe Suge was just bluffing. I mean,Dr.Dre had a studio at home right?
I know that 4 tracks is not much,so Suge could be telling the truth,but if his statement was true,
then the tracks must be from the period 92-94 (that's when dre was recording material at the Death Row offices right?).
I'm just speculating,so i guess we need some die hard Death Row fans to clear this up; Inmate, DJR,Tha psycho hustla?
If I remember the add right,it said;
Featuring the hit single Just Dogginīproduced by Dr.Dre.
I told you before that Dre stopped Suge/Death Row to release those tracks,so theyīre real.
I think I got a article about that in a magazine somewhere too. When I come across it again,I will post it.  :)
Not sure when Dre moved his studio to his crib,but around 94/95 seems right.
my bad. but i doubt that those 4 tracks are all dr.dre solo's (tha next episode might be one of them though)
by the way, i found something:
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/c0/e7/1bd5_1.JPG)
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-226045-1098471919.gif)
HEC, if you read this, maybe you can scan your back cover of doggystyle if you have a scanner




yeah homie I'll try to get around to it either later tonite or tomorrow, btw that is the back cover but there are 19 tracks on the CD that include the interludes Chronic Break, Domino, and My Name is Snoop
tha next episode is actually #17 and its the the Sam Sneed interlude with G'z up Hoez Down at #18 and Pump Pump at #19
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: SP0RTY on November 04, 2007, 07:06:45 PM
Dre-Day I should have the other add,will up it when I come across it. Wonder what four tracks that was? Was the Just Doggin' OG one of them? or was it 4 Dre "solo" tracks? There's a couple of die hard Death Row fans on this site,maybe they know something about this?

ok would be great if you can find the other one  ;)
do u have the cd...and btw does anyone have jus doggin og

Will do so when I come across it.....  :)

Well just doggin OG was released before the Chronic 2000 right?
But the advertisement that you were talking about mentioned Just Doggin,so that would mean that just doggin og is one of the four
(but then again,I haven't seen that ad,so maybe it said 4 unreleased tracks and Just Doggin or something like that).
But maybe Suge was just bluffing. I mean,Dr.Dre had a studio at home right?
I know that 4 tracks is not much,so Suge could be telling the truth,but if his statement was true,
then the tracks must be from the period 92-94 (that's when dre was recording material at the Death Row offices right?).
I'm just speculating,so i guess we need some die hard Death Row fans to clear this up; Inmate, DJR,Tha psycho hustla?
If I remember the add right,it said;
Featuring the hit single Just Dogginīproduced by Dr.Dre.
I told you before that Dre stopped Suge/Death Row to release those tracks,so theyīre real.
I think I got a article about that in a magazine somewhere too. When I come across it again,I will post it.  :)
Not sure when Dre moved his studio to his crib,but around 94/95 seems right.
my bad. but i doubt that those 4 tracks are all dr.dre solo's (tha next episode might be one of them though)
by the way, i found something:
(http://i13.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/c0/e7/1bd5_1.JPG)
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-226045-1098471919.gif)
HEC, if you read this, maybe you can scan your back cover of doggystyle if you have a scanner




yeah homie I'll try to get around to it either later tonite or tomorrow, btw that is the back cover but there are 19 tracks on the CD that include the interludes Chronic Break, Domino, and My Name is Snoop
tha next episode is actually #17 and its the the Sam Sneed interlude with G'z up Hoez Down at #18 and Pump Pump at #19
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 05, 2007, 02:53:41 AM
never seen that cover before Death Row did some shit lol
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: klubbstyle on November 09, 2007, 09:07:31 AM
yeah i got the DOGGY STYLE Cassette tape still, and it has this song actually written on the tracklist. aslo this same cassette contains "gz up, hoez down" on it, also listed in tracklist.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on November 09, 2007, 09:15:53 AM
I LOVE THIS TRACK

when i first heard i was goin crazy in the library
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: DJSpin on November 09, 2007, 12:27:36 PM
yeah i got the DOGGY STYLE Cassette tape still, and it has this song actually written on the tracklist. aslo this same cassette contains "gz up, hoez down" on it, also listed in tracklist.


all of us who got the cd/tape the day it dropped back in the day got G'z up Hoez down, and the misleading tracklist
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: klubbstyle on November 09, 2007, 11:05:22 PM
yeah i got the DOGGY STYLE Cassette tape still, and it has this song actually written on the tracklist. aslo this same cassette contains "gz up, hoez down" on it, also listed in tracklist.


all of us who got the cd/tape the day it dropped back in the day got G'z up Hoez down, and the misleading tracklist
YES, i know u know, but NOT EVERY1 has an actual Snoop Dogg CASSETTE TAPE Now do they with these tracks on it?

Nor do they got a cd 4 that matter.

its very special.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: snoopadelic on November 10, 2007, 04:55:10 AM
reason it wasn't on cuz Warren G straight did the whole track Dre had nothing to do with it 8)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Sosna on November 10, 2007, 06:59:21 AM
damn, that must have been cool to be in the studio with Dre, Snoop and Warren  8) did you also get a chance to hear some snippets from other death row projects ( such as helter skelter)?

I wish 2 see how Dre was making a beat in studio and then Snoop was writin' the lyrics...
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 10, 2007, 07:20:15 AM
reason it wasn't on cuz Warren G straight did the whole track Dre had nothing to do with it 8)

Warren G produced this?  :-\
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: klubbstyle on November 10, 2007, 07:50:41 AM
reason it wasn't on cuz Warren G straight did the whole track Dre had nothing to do with it 8)

Warren G produced this?  :-\
did he?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 10, 2007, 07:59:28 AM
reason it wasn't on cuz Warren G straight did the whole track Dre had nothing to do with it 8)

Warren G produced this?  :-\
did he?

don't know this dude said that he was in the studio and Warren G produced and Snoop don't write his lyrics news to me I always thought Snoop and Dre were a team and worked together?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: DJSpin on November 10, 2007, 09:12:39 AM
reason it wasn't on cuz Warren G straight did the whole track Dre had nothing to do with it 8)

Warren G produced this?  :-\

the OG definately sounds like a warren g beat to me.. and he basicly used it on his regulate cd... so i beleive that
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 10, 2007, 10:12:56 AM
even though the subject matter is a little different, some people were also talking about OG next episode and runnin' with no breaks:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=146326.0
both songs have the same sample;but runnin' with no breaks sounds more like a Warren G beat to me(that song basically replays the sample). not that i'm saying that Warren G had no involvement in the production of the next episode, but it seems likely that(like some poster said in the topic that i was referring to) Warren only brought the sample to dre, and then dr.dre added the G-Funk effects to it(and when you listen to the chronic and doggystyle, it makes sense).
but i don't think it's a good idea to talk about it too much here, cause this has been discussed so many times and we'll never know what exactly happened. it's the same thing with all the claims from other producers that dre stole production credits; these topics have been discussed so many times before, and there isn't much more to add to it.
so if you want to know more, i'd suggest you search the forum,  check interviews (from dubcnn for example, or thaformula.com)with the people that are related to this( Snoop, the d.o.c. , Warren G, Daz etc.)

anyway, the next episode og was not put on the album because death row couldn't get the sample cleared in time(Warren G then used it for his album ). but as the backcover of the first print of doggystyle shows, the track was meant to be on the album. GZ up hoes down was on the first release of the album however, but it also had a sample clearance issue ( if i remember correctly), that's why it was not on newer releases of doggystyle.
as said before, death row can't release the next episode OG because of legal reasons.
apparently the issue with GZ up hoes down is solved, cause koch recently put the track on a death row compilation. maybe the next episode will be released sometime in the future, but it really depends on the outcome of all those death row lawsuits, and the plans of the new owner of death row.
i think that basically sums up some of the important things that have been said in this topic.


Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on November 10, 2007, 10:34:48 AM
^^^^
I agree with search the board for info,I have posted the formula interviews with D.O.C and Ren.
Pluss a gang of scans so all of us can do research.
When it comes to Next Episode OG,I think Snoop spoke on this in one of his last interview with Nima. Dre-Day search them up and copy and paste the parts about production credits. I'm on a cell right now,so can't copy and paste.


^
Thanx for the info Dre-Day and Chad

To tell you the truth I don't remember who produced it,there has been so much back and forth about this track that I got it all mixed up,ha,ha.
But seem to remember that Snoop set it straight in one of his interviews with Nima.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 10, 2007, 10:58:03 AM
^
thanx for the info Dre-Day and Chad
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 10, 2007, 11:36:06 AM
When it comes to Next Episode OG,I think Snoop spoke on this in one of his last interview with Nima. Dre-Day search them up and copy and paste the parts about production credits. I'm on a cell right now,so can't copy and paste.

sure:
Quote
Dubcnn:  Do you ever dream of running into the Death Row vaults and grabbing all the unreleased shit you have in there, like "Ho Hopper", "Next Episode OG" and shit?
Nah, I don't never worry about all that. That music is timeless, it's priceless, and I don't even think about it, cause I'm so far ahead in the game with this new shit that I'm on and these new artists. I mean, sometimes I do think about all of them records that I made, like "where the fuck are they at?, or "what happened to this song or that song", cause niggas made some real hit records over there that never came out, but at the same time, I'm still cool, I'm still good.

Quote
Dubcnn:  You probably would make a lot more money if you dug up all the old shit and sold that shit! Cause people would go crazy for it, it's so many people hunting unreleased songs.

Trust me, I told you what I'm doing, I'm selling 12 beats with no lyrics on them for $500! So imagine when I start saying "Okay, I just found some old Snoop Dogg music that I'm selling." But I am selling an unreleased Snoop Dogg, but I'm only selling for $25,99, cause I don't want to scare you away. Get the first for $25, and you'll be like "Damn I ain't never heard that one!" Then on the next one, I'ma go get some shit from WAY BACK! So this one is gonna cost a little bit more cause this shit is hard to find, this is shit that I had to pay a nigga to get this shit. I got shit I did with DJ Glaze and niggas that own cassettes and 8track mixers from 1987, 88, 89 that I got, that I ain't never released on a nigga, where I can just pop that and be like "Boom!" I even got the first 213 song! "Long Beach Is A Muthafucka"!

Quote
Dubcnn: But he still should get some production credit though.

But, at the same time, Dre didn't take that from Sha Money. And when he was doing that for niggas back in the days, they didn't deserve to have their name in the game like that, because he did all of the work! So what you found a sample and you got a cool little drum file, but he brought the shit to life, so he really produced the track! Producing is bringing the track to life! Beatmakers make beats. A lot of niggas make beats. He produces tracks. So that ain't disrespect what I'm saying. I'm just telling you what's real.

I seen him make tracks from scratch. My whole record the nigga made damn near everything from scratch. "Ain't No Fun", Daz and Warren G brought him the little *sings melody*, that's all they had! Dre took that muthafucka to the next level! Warren G brought in the Donny Hathaway, "Little Ghetto Boy, laying in the ghetto streets." Dre flipped it like "Hold on, gimme that!" Took that muthafucka and made it straight hit!


Dubcnn: So you're saying it's wrong that Daz or Warren G would claim that they didn't get the credit they deserved on The Chronic or Doggystyle?

I'ma say it like this: they didn't deserve the credit back then because they didn't do the work. They made beats, Dre produced that record. Point blank, and I'd say it in they face. They made beats, cuzz produced the record. If you a real nigga in the rap game, you'll understand what I'm saying. I can make a beat, but I can't produce! I can make a beat, but can I tell a nigga what to rap about, can I tell him when to come with the hook? Can you break the beat down? That's what producing is.


Dubcnn: Right, but if I brought in the beat, I would still want my name somewhere.


But, if you brought in the beat, that's all you did, was brought in the beat. You didn't produce this record. This song says "Produced by" not "brought in the beat by". Keep it real! So that's what niggas got wrong, and they started pointing fingers and try to bad mouth him, when in actuality Dre doesn't need ya'll, ya'll needed him! Because this shit ya'll learned from him, that made ya'll better producers. He didn't learn shit from ya'll! See that's what niggas don't understand! Before The Chronic, how many hit records did Dre have before that? Everything he made was a hit record right?


Dubcnn: Right.

How many hits did Warren G make, how many hits did Daz make? None. None. Okay now, look at the tracks that they produced on The Chronic. Did they have any records like that by theyselves? No. You answer the question for me!
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dubcnn: There were a few leftovers from your debut album Doggystyle such as "The Original next Episode" & the track "Doggystyle" can we ever expect to hear these released?

Snoop Dogg : Um, i dont own those - Death Row owns those - so, im pretty sure Suge Knight will put them out when my album comes out or something, you know how he work!
it's snoop dogg's part of the story, so it doesn't have to be true offcourse.
he respects dre a lot, but that doesn't mean he never critisizes dre ( in interviews); that's why i don't think snoop has a reason to lie about the production credits for the chronic and doggystyle.

^
thanx for the info Dre-Day and Chad
you're welcome. i'll post some more parts from interviews if i find anything related to the subject.

by the way, chad, did dre ever talk about the role of Daz and Warren G in the production of the chronic and doggystyle in interviews? i'm quite sure i've read something about it, but then again, i've read so many interviews lately that i may be a bit confused.




Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 10, 2007, 01:51:36 PM
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dubcnn.com : Is it true that you and Daz produced songs on Doggystyle / Chronic that you didn't get credit for?

Uhh, I didn't produce nothing on Doggystyle, I rapped on Doggystyle, and that was Ain't No Fun. As far as on the Chronic, I'm not trying to take no credit away from nobody, I was involved in the Chronic, Daz was invovled in the Chronic, Chris Glove was involved in the Chronic, Dr. Dre was involved in the Chornic, all of us producers together as one, but Dre is a genius, I'll never try and take no credit away from Dr. Dre! But what we did help out on the Chronic, WITH Dre. The niggas a genius man, he's a genius!
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 10, 2007, 03:01:11 PM
if anyone is to blame for not getting credit shouldn't it be Suge not Dre?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on November 10, 2007, 03:05:21 PM
if anyone is to blame for not getting credit shouldn't it be Suge not Dre?

he's to blame for not releaseing tracks
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 10, 2007, 03:23:28 PM
The only time I can remember Dre talk about Daz was in his interview in The Source after he left Death Row. Dre had nothing but positive things to say about Daz. (will post this interview later). All those cats that Warren mentioned got their credits for what they did even Daz,check the credits in The Chronic and Doggystyle. If my memory serves me right,Daz programed the drums on Rat-ta-tat and he's credited for working on the Murder was the case track.
yeah i know that daz' claims were false. looking forward to reading that interview by the way  8)

if anyone is to blame for not getting credit shouldn't it be Suge not Dre?
correct.

he's to blame for not releaseing tracks
well that's not true(you're talking about suge knight right?), and i think me and a few others have explained why in this topic.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on November 10, 2007, 03:34:06 PM
oh wait i just realized can't dre just sue suge for releasing them or same with snoop he tried to sue when that one cd came otu but i think he lost
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on November 10, 2007, 05:58:23 PM
damn this thread is alive and poppin! Only thing I liike to add about Daz was that he made a lot of claims but when Dre left Death Row completely Daz beats were not the same not to say they weren't dope cause Daz definitely did his thing on Doggfather, Gang Related Soundtrack and his first solo on Death Row but his mixing game suffered until he hooked up with Mike Dean, even if you check out the dope beats that he did on AEOM check the mixing of his vocals especially on Got My Mind Made Up they are down now imagine if Dre mixed that record :o
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: KC-HOODSTA on November 11, 2007, 11:20:24 AM
oh wait i just realized can't dre just sue suge for releasing them or same with snoop he tried to sue when that one cd came out but I think he lost

Not sure what album you're talking about,but Dre managed to stop Suge to release those Dre tracks that was supposed to be on Death Row's Chronic 2000,check the add I posted in a previous post.


im talkin bout dead man walkinh
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: jbel1021 on November 11, 2007, 11:30:51 AM
damn this thread is alive and poppin! Only thing I liike to add about Daz was that he made a lot of claims but when Dre left Death Row completely Daz beats were not the same not to say they weren't dope cause Daz definitely did his thing on Doggfather, Gang Related Soundtrack and his first solo on Death Row but his mixing game suffered until he hooked up with Mike Dean, even if you check out the dope beats that he did on AEOM check the mixing of his vocals especially on Got My Mind Made Up they are down now imagine if Dre mixed that record :o

Could u imagine if Daz and Mike Dean produced most of Tha Dogg Pound's next release? Obviously won't happen, but that would be sick. As for Daz's beats not being the same since Dre left, well, ur right. Dre was his mentor and even without him, Daz still made some great cuts for 2Pac's All Eyez On Me without Dre. As for Daz's first solo on DR, well idk. The beats sounded very dated for the late 90's. Daz, if u read this, hook up with Mike Dean!!! lol
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: SP0RTY on November 11, 2007, 12:37:24 PM
i dont get how u list the song on the cd but not have the track on there...that seems like a pretty big mistake, why wasnt it on the first few copies then pulled like gz up hoez down
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 11, 2007, 03:15:08 PM
i dont get how u list the song on the cd but not have the track on there...that seems like a pretty big mistake, why wasnt it on the first few copies then pulled like gz up hoez down
yeah that's a very big mistake indeed. i guess we'll never find out exactly why the next episode OG wasn't put on the first release, while GZ up hoes down actually was(unless Warren G can clear it up in a new interview with dubcnn, although he stated in that quote that i posted, that he didn't produce anything on doggystyle)
both had similar issues with sample clearance( so SP0RTY i don't understand why both tracks weren't put on the first release of the album either).

it would make more sense if both tracks weren't put on the first release, cause then you could conclude that the samples couldn't be cleared before the deadline( and that would be the reason why they weren't on the album).
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on November 11, 2007, 03:40:37 PM
oh wait I just realized can't Dre just sue suge for releasing them or same with
Snoop he tried to sue when that one cd came out but I think he lost

Not sure what album you're talking about,
but Dre managed to stop Suge to release those Dre tracks that was supposed to be on Death Row's Chronic 2000,
check the add I posted in a previous post.


Im talkin bout dead man walking

Ok,but Dre didnīt do any work on Dead Man Walking...... so his name should be left out.  ;)


i dont get how u list the song on the cd but not have the track on there...that seems like a pretty big mistake, why wasnt it on the first few copies then pulled like gz up hoez down
yeah that's a very big mistake indeed. i guess we'll never find out exactly why the next episode OG wasn't put on the first release, while GZ up hoes down actually was(unless Warren G can clear it up in a new interview with dubcnn, although he stated in that quote that i posted, that he didn't produce anything on doggystyle)
both had similar issues with sample clearance( so SP0RTY i don't understand why both tracks weren't put on the first release of the album either).

it would make more sense if both tracks weren't put on the first release, cause then you could conclude that the samples couldn't be cleared before the deadline( and that would be the reason why they weren't on the album).



As I said before in a previous post there was some rumors around when
Doggystyle was going to be released that it had some problems with a sample clearance of a Madonna track.
But I guess this was just bullshit since this issue has never been brought up again.
Even the The Chronic first booklet was labeled wrong,
it didnīt have the features label on the front at first and Bitches Aint Shit was listed as number 7 or 8.
Was this a "ghetto" gimmick or did they hire some ghetto ass designer that fucked up twice?  :laugh:



Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
you mean like this: http://www.discogs.com/image/R-468156-1167308278.jpeg

but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?

Your link didnīt work,but went to the site,didnīt know they released with all the videoīs.
Got to get that one. I donīt see Dreīs name....  :-\
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-644594-1163043607.jpeg)
(http://www.discogs.com/image/R-644594-1163043746.jpeg)

Hereīs the link to the images just in case discogs decide to take them down again;
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-644594-1163043607.jpeg
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-644594-1163043746.jpeg
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 12, 2007, 03:44:44 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 12, 2007, 03:55:38 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL

ha,ha scan that part and post it here!

don't have a scanner but it does say produced by Suge Knight on the back it is a remastered copy from when Death Row remastered all their albums, shit I wish I had the original
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 12, 2007, 04:26:40 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
now that you mention it, i remember reading a dr.dre interview about the chronic/doggystyle on a website; dre said that suge had no involvement in the project(s), but he did put his name on it. it's been a while since i read that interview and i haven't been able to find out from which website it was.

anyway i found a quote from mellowman that is a bit related to some post on page 4 of this topic:
Q: Does Dre steal credit? 
A: I hate this f'in question. I know this will always be out there no matter how hard I argue it.  So i'm not going to attempt to win this arguement.  But No Dre does not steal credit from others. In my experience with Dre I have ALWAYS gotten proper credit and full publishing.   Since the first Aftermath album Dre has given proper credit to every songwriter, producer, musician, engineer, whoever. Dre told me he learned how not to run a label during his Death Row days. He vowed to give proper credit to everyone who works on each track.  Whether Dre produces or co produces , Dre's name will almost always go first.  That's just the way it is.  The only time it doesn't is when Dre doesn't actively work on the making of the track. If it is finished and he jumps on and adds or changes he will not be the first name.  But if Dre is active in the true creation of the track he will go first, and rightfully so as Dre is the orchestrator and director of every track.  At death row Dre and every other artist i talked to has told me suge would let Dre get his own publishing but suge would basically steal everyone elses.  In music, getting publishing credit is almost everything.  Whether Snoop or Kurupt or whoever wrote the verse it didn't matter.  Suge publishing would get the credit.  Dre will always admit that creating The Chronic and Doggystyle was a team effort, but that there was no doubt he was the mastermind behind the production of the tracks.  Obviously I wasn't there during the Death Row days but everyone I have talked to during my time with Dre who was actually there said that Dre was the main force, the main producer and orchestrator of every track.  he got a lot of help from musicians and ocassional help from co-producers like sam sneed, and warren g, etc. which Dre credits for helping make those classic records.  In the end though suge would not pay them correctly so a lot of people left.  the original death row is gone, and they almost all left after dre left - even daz - that should tell you something.  suge stole credits and publishing from the musicians and writers all the time.  and although Dre couldn't (although maybe he should have) force suge to change as co owner of death row he was ultimatley responsible, and Dre felt really bad about it. he felt responsible although it wasn't really his fault. That was a major factor in starting Aftermath.  Dre wanted to run a label the correct way and make sure everyone who worked with him got full credit and the correct publishing.  I can honestly say Dre has never cheated me or anyone else i know during my time at Aftermath.  Egos can get involved where some people think they should get more credit than they deserve. Scott had those issues once but he's back and working with us and is very happy to be a part of dre's team.
If you ask anyone who has ever worked with Dre if he treats them fairly they will all say yes.  If you are willing to put in the work it takes to be successful dre will treat you and compensate you like family.  He will reward you for your efforts.
Hopefully this sheds a little light on things.  Dre is far from perfect, even very irritable sometimes, but in this business of music you will find few people as giving and humble as Dre. 
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 12, 2007, 04:37:48 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
now that you mention it, i remember reading a dr.dre interview about the chronic/doggystyle on a website; dre said that suge had no involvement in the project(s), but he did put his name on it. it's been a while since i read that interview and i haven't been able to find out from which website it was.

anyway i found a quote from mellowman that is a bit related to some post on page 4 of this topic:
Q: Does Dre steal credit? 
A: I hate this f'in question. I know this will always be out there no matter how hard I argue it.  So i'm not going to attempt to win this arguement.  But No Dre does not steal credit from others. In my experience with Dre I have ALWAYS gotten proper credit and full publishing.   Since the first Aftermath album Dre has given proper credit to every songwriter, producer, musician, engineer, whoever. Dre told me he learned how not to run a label during his Death Row days. He vowed to give proper credit to everyone who works on each track.  Whether Dre produces or co produces , Dre's name will almost always go first.  That's just the way it is.  The only time it doesn't is when Dre doesn't actively work on the making of the track. If it is finished and he jumps on and adds or changes he will not be the first name.  But if Dre is active in the true creation of the track he will go first, and rightfully so as Dre is the orchestrator and director of every track.  At death row Dre and every other artist i talked to has told me suge would let Dre get his own publishing but suge would basically steal everyone elses.  In music, getting publishing credit is almost everything.  Whether Snoop or Kurupt or whoever wrote the verse it didn't matter.  Suge publishing would get the credit.  Dre will always admit that creating The Chronic and Doggystyle was a team effort, but that there was no doubt he was the mastermind behind the production of the tracks.  Obviously I wasn't there during the Death Row days but everyone I have talked to during my time with Dre who was actually there said that Dre was the main force, the main producer and orchestrator of every track.  he got a lot of help from musicians and ocassional help from co-producers like sam sneed, and warren g, etc. which Dre credits for helping make those classic records.  In the end though suge would not pay them correctly so a lot of people left.  the original death row is gone, and they almost all left after dre left - even daz - that should tell you something.  suge stole credits and publishing from the musicians and writers all the time.  and although Dre couldn't (although maybe he should have) force suge to change as co owner of death row he was ultimatley responsible, and Dre felt really bad about it. he felt responsible although it wasn't really his fault. That was a major factor in starting Aftermath.  Dre wanted to run a label the correct way and make sure everyone who worked with him got full credit and the correct publishing.  I can honestly say Dre has never cheated me or anyone else i know during my time at Aftermath.  Egos can get involved where some people think they should get more credit than they deserve. Scott had those issues once but he's back and working with us and is very happy to be a part of dre's team.
If you ask anyone who has ever worked with Dre if he treats them fairly they will all say yes.  If you are willing to put in the work it takes to be successful dre will treat you and compensate you like family.  He will reward you for your efforts.
Hopefully this sheds a little light on things.  Dre is far from perfect, even very irritable sometimes, but in this business of music you will find few people as giving and humble as Dre. 

thanks man dope, Suge sounds like he always was pulling some bullshit like this and Dre sounds like a hella cool dude
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 12, 2007, 06:05:46 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
you mean like this: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=468156

but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on November 12, 2007, 06:44:41 AM
damn this thread is alive and poppin! Only thing I liike to add about Daz was that he made a lot of claims but when Dre left Death Row completely Daz beats were not the same not to say they weren't dope cause Daz definitely did his thing on Doggfather, Gang Related Soundtrack and his first solo on Death Row but his mixing game suffered until he hooked up with Mike Dean, even if you check out the dope beats that he did on AEOM check the mixing of his vocals especially on Got My Mind Made Up they are down now imagine if Dre mixed that record :o

Daz's beats sounded very good on AEOM, but remember that record was mixed by DJ Quik, who was probably the only person other than Dre that could do top-quality mixing at that time.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: klubbstyle on November 14, 2007, 06:02:45 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
you mean like this: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=468156

but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?
Does it only say "prod. by Suge Knight" on the re-releases and re-mastered versions of the cds?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 14, 2007, 11:38:36 AM
Suge always pulling some shit, I went to get the Chronic CD and it says produced by Suge Knight on the back and then I look at my friends CD guess it was an older copy and its says Produced by Dr. Dre I didn't know Suge was a producer LOL
you mean like this: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?what=R&obid=468156

but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?
Does it only say "prod. by Suge Knight" on the re-releases and re-mastered versions of the cds?

don't know about the rest but the Chronic one I have is exactly like the pic, fucking Suge
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 14, 2007, 11:47:15 AM
don't know about the rest but the Chronic one I have is exactly like the pic, fucking Suge
but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?

inside the booklet he is credited just on the back cover he was replaced by Suge
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 14, 2007, 12:44:11 PM
don't know about the rest but the Chronic one I have is exactly like the pic, fucking Suge
but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?

inside the booklet he is credited just on the back cover he was replaced by Suge

ok thanks for answering my question. yeah you already said that suge was listed as an executive producer, but you didn't talk about the booklet in your previous posts.
it's all good now though  ;)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Snoopafly-1986 on November 14, 2007, 04:16:47 PM
don't know about the rest but the Chronic one I have is exactly like the pic, fucking Suge
but what about the booklet, dr.dre is still credited somewhere as a producer right?

inside the booklet he is credited just on the back cover he was replaced by Suge

ok thanks for answering my question. yeah you already said that suge was listed as an executive producer, but you didn't talk about the booklet in your previous posts.
it's all good now though  ;)

yeah lol, not like anybody doesn't know that Dre produced it but still bitch move by Suge to take Dre off of the back cover and put his name :-\
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: lawz2760 on November 14, 2007, 07:14:35 PM
Song is cool, I really do think that we will never see a OG CDQ of this song
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on November 15, 2007, 10:47:41 AM
I bought my Chronic CD in 1993 and it does not have "Bitches Ain't Shit" listed on the back or in the booklet and on the front Snoop is listed as "Snoop Dog" and "That Nigga Daz" what was going on there? ;D
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 15, 2007, 11:28:12 AM
I bought my Chronic CD in 1993 and it does not have "Bitches Ain't Shit" listed on the back or in the booklet and on the front Snoop is listed as "Snoop Dog" and "That Nigga Daz" what was going on there? ;D
lol  :) by the way, could you scan and upload the backcover from doggystyle with tha next episode listed on the back?  :D offcourse we want a cdq version of tha next episode, but the backcover would still be a nice addition to the topic  ;)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on November 15, 2007, 12:18:22 PM
having trouble posting it here I uploaded it to the FLUX community hopefully it works

http://community.dubcnn.com/063FBFFFF000E9095000700045ECE/

got it to post
(http://files2.fluxstatic.com/00045ECE000E9095000763FBFFFF)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 15, 2007, 12:20:14 PM
thanks a lot, lol at death row  ;)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: klubbstyle on November 16, 2007, 06:27:18 AM
I bought my Chronic CD in 1993 and it does not have "Bitches Ain't Shit" listed on the back or in the booklet and on the front Snoop is listed as "Snoop Dog" and "That Nigga Daz" what was going on there? ;D

I bought my Chronic cassette tape (still got it) when it came out, NO Bitches aint shit on it. But i got the Chronic CD a few months later and it HAS "BITCHES Aint Shit" ON IT!.

Got my Snoop - DoggyStyle cassette tape when it came out and it HAD "G'Z UP, HOEZ DOWN" on it and Tha Next Episode IS LISTED, got the DoggyStyle CD a bit later on with NO EXTRA tracks and NO SONGS Listed.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: M Dogg™ on November 16, 2007, 08:42:57 AM
having trouble posting it here I uploaded it to the FLUX community hopefully it works

http://community.dubcnn.com/063FBFFFF000E9095000700045ECE/

got it to post
(http://files2.fluxstatic.com/00045ECE000E9095000763FBFFFF)

I call FAKE!!!!!!!!!!

First off, I bought Doggystyle right when it came out, I'm 27, 13 when it came out, and I never ever... and I mean EVER heard of a Doggystyle with Next Episode. I knew some bootlegs leaked to the swap meet, and that might have been the source, or the song just got leaked during the Death Row years Suge was in jail. Second, and this was what tipped me off on the fake, on the original verson of Doggystyle, G'z Up, Hoes Down is before Pump, Pump. The order goes, G'z and Hustlers, then the You Betta Reconize skit with Sam Sneed, and then G'z Up, Hoes Down, and the Pump Pump.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on November 16, 2007, 08:50:17 AM
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)


yeah thats the one I have, it was the first pressings of the CD with Gz Up Hoez Down on(short track but another classic really smooth and goes well with the 2nd half of Doggystyle)
what was going on there? ;D

I bought my CD at a Sam Goody in Queens NY the day it came out in '93 and I remember thinking where is this track the Next Episode and the CD does play the Sam Sneed skit then G'z Up Ho's Down and ends with Pump Pump as M Dogg said
yeah i know, i was only posting those quotes to show that M Dogg's post was unnecessary; nobody ( well at least none of the serious contributors) in this topic claimed that they had a copy of doggystyle with the next episode on the cd; some only had the track listed on the backcover
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on November 16, 2007, 10:34:39 AM
I bought my CD at a Sam Goody in Queens NY the day it came out in '93 and I remember thinking where is this track the Next Episode and the CD does play the Sam Sneed skit then G'z Up Ho's Down and ends with Pump Pump as M Dogg said
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: M Dogg™ on December 05, 2007, 08:29:56 AM
you're welcome.
i remember reading in an other topic that the first release of doggystyle had the next episode listed on the back, i don't know if this is true though( but the person who posted that also said that the track wasn't on the cd, so it makes sense; otherwise this topic obviously wouldn't have existed  :laugh:)


yeah thats the one I have, it was the first pressings of the CD with Gz Up Hoez Down on(short track but another classic really smooth and goes well with the 2nd half of Doggystyle)
what was going on there? ;D

I bought my CD at a Sam Goody in Queens NY the day it came out in '93 and I remember thinking where is this track the Next Episode and the CD does play the Sam Sneed skit then G'z Up Ho's Down and ends with Pump Pump as M Dogg said
yeah i know, i was only posting those quotes to show that M Dogg's post was unnecessary; nobody ( well at least none of the serious contributors) in this topic claimed that they had a copy of doggystyle with the next episode on the cd; some only had the track listed on the backcover

well not only is Next Episode not on the CD, my main point was that the track listing is wrong.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: klubbstyle on December 05, 2007, 08:38:49 AM
i have the ORIGINAL CASSETTE TAPE with GZ UP HOEZ DOWN on it, Tha Next Episode OG is the last track LISTED on it.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: o g s u e s o n e on December 05, 2007, 10:05:48 AM
having trouble posting it here I uploaded it to the FLUX community hopefully it works


got it to post


I call FAKE!!!!!!!!!!

First off, I bought Doggystyle right when it came out, I'm 27, 13 when it came out, and I never ever... and I mean EVER heard of a Doggystyle with Next Episode. I knew some bootlegs leaked to the swap meet, and that might have been the source, or the song just got leaked during the Death Row years Suge was in jail. Second, and this was what tipped me off on the fake, on the original verson of Doggystyle, G'z Up, Hoes Down is before Pump, Pump. The order goes, G'z and Hustlers, then the You Betta Reconize skit with Sam Sneed, and then G'z Up, Hoes Down, and the Pump Pump.


what u mean with fake? these albums are not boots. i have the very first doggystyle cassette, the vinyl and the cd. all have next epsiode listed on the cover, backcover or label but the tracks was not pressed on the albums. they all have gz up hoes down tho. i think they pulled the track seconds before they pressed the albums. for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: DJSpin on December 05, 2007, 10:12:28 AM
having trouble posting it here I uploaded it to the FLUX community hopefully it works

http://community.dubcnn.com/063FBFFFF000E9095000700045ECE/

got it to post
(http://files2.fluxstatic.com/00045ECE000E9095000763FBFFFF)

I call FAKE!!!!!!!!!!

First off, I bought Doggystyle right when it came out, I'm 27, 13 when it came out, and I never ever... and I mean EVER heard of a Doggystyle with Next Episode. I knew some bootlegs leaked to the swap meet, and that might have been the source, or the song just got leaked during the Death Row years Suge was in jail. Second, and this was what tipped me off on the fake, on the original verson of Doggystyle, G'z Up, Hoes Down is before Pump, Pump. The order goes, G'z and Hustlers, then the You Betta Reconize skit with Sam Sneed, and then G'z Up, Hoes Down, and the Pump Pump.
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its just a scan.. obviously the track isnt on there... poeple wanted to see the album back that listed The Next Episode..  my copy has it listed too and its not on it... and it also has g'z up h0ez down on it...
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: R1ZE on December 05, 2007, 10:39:29 AM
just some speculation... those 4 dre ogs could possibly have been any combination of:

rat-tat-tat-tat og
tha next episode og
doggystyle feat. george clinton
the third pac track he did (forgot the name.. something about death in it)
just doggin


but we'll probably never know
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on December 06, 2007, 12:29:58 PM
its really hard to judge Next Episode against the classic songs on Doggystyle because we will probably never hear it in good quality so we can't compare but one thing I do know is Snoop blacked out on that even more than usual
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on December 09, 2007, 09:57:40 AM
its really hard to judge Next Episode against the classic songs on Doggystyle because we will probably never hear it in good quality so we can't compare but one thing I do know is Snoop blacked out on that even more than usual

oh yeah no doubt about that. but you don't need to have a cdq version of it to decide whether you like the track or not( not aimed at you HighEyeCue; i mean in general);
it definately helps though.
there was a topic about sound systems not too long ago; that also helps if you have such a thing ( to maximize the listening experience), but it's not a requirement i think.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: HEC on December 09, 2007, 11:16:44 AM
its really hard to judge Next Episode against the classic songs on Doggystyle because we will probably never hear it in good quality so we can't compare but one thing I do know is Snoop blacked out on that even more than usual

oh yeah no doubt about that. but you don't need to have a cdq version of it to decide whether you like the track or not( not aimed at you HighEyeCue; i mean in general);
it definately helps though.
there was a topic about sound systems not too long ago; that also helps if you have such a thing ( to maximize the listening experience), but it's not a requirement i think.

oh yeah no doubt I have it on my Ipod and ripped on a CD just wish there was someway this would wind up in better quality somewhere, the track as it stands is very dope and the back and forth rapping between Snoop and Dre is just insane on this
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on May 06, 2008, 03:21:28 AM
its really hard to judge Next Episode against the classic songs on Doggystyle because we will probably never hear it in good quality so we can't compare but one thing I do know is Snoop blacked out on that even more than usual

oh yeah no doubt about that. but you don't need to have a cdq version of it to decide whether you like the track or not( not aimed at you HighEyeCue; i mean in general);
it definately helps though.
there was a topic about sound systems not too long ago; that also helps if you have such a thing ( to maximize the listening experience), but it's not a requirement i think.

oh yeah no doubt I have it on my Ipod and ripped on a CD just wish there was someway this would wind up in better quality somewhere, the track as it stands is very dope and the back and forth rapping between Snoop and Dre is just insane on this

somehow it doesn't have much replay value for me; i haven't listened to the track that much but i still feel that i've heard it too many times  :laugh:

i tried to compromise the sound quality of the audio file a little by using audio editing software; will hook it up for you sometime  ;)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: messi19 on May 06, 2008, 03:44:12 AM
its really hard to judge Next Episode against the classic songs on Doggystyle because we will probably never hear it in good quality so we can't compare but one thing I do know is Snoop blacked out on that even more than usual

oh yeah no doubt about that. but you don't need to have a cdq version of it to decide whether you like the track or not( not aimed at you HighEyeCue; i mean in general);
it definately helps though.
there was a topic about sound systems not too long ago; that also helps if you have such a thing ( to maximize the listening experience), but it's not a requirement i think.

oh yeah no doubt I have it on my Ipod and ripped on a CD just wish there was someway this would wind up in better quality somewhere, the track as it stands is very dope and the back and forth rapping between Snoop and Dre is just insane on this

somehow it doesn't have much replay value for me; i haven't listened to the track that much but i still feel that i've heard it too many times  :laugh:

i tried to compromise the sound quality of the audio file a little by using audio editing software; will hook it up for you sometime  ;)


Props
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on August 15, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
classic topic  :laugh:

that's when you were actually posting, Chad :D
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 15, 2009, 06:58:32 PM
classic topic  :laugh:

that's when you were actually posting, Chad :D

why don't you stop postin while your at it
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on August 16, 2009, 12:38:35 AM
classic topic  :laugh:

that's when you were actually posting, Chad :D

why don't you stop postin while your at it
i can't, due to contractual obligations :(
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: 2euce 7even on August 16, 2009, 01:40:54 AM
maybe WA will release it in CDQ and true OG?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: JD Bastin on August 16, 2009, 02:35:34 PM
chad vador is weird 
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Black Excellence on August 16, 2009, 08:46:09 PM
I must be at a minority here to think that Next Episode doesn't fit well with Doggystyle. Doggystyle was more uptempo, party type jams. Who Am I (What's My Name), Gin and Juice, and the list goes on. It might have joint in with Tha Shiznit as a song that was good, but nothing stand out.
i agree homie. the next ep ddidn't fit on doggystyle. 'maybe' on the chronic.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 16, 2009, 08:50:03 PM
next episode would've fit in perfectly


how the HELL did m dogg not like The Shiznit?  maybe the best song on the CD
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: 2euce 7even on August 17, 2009, 03:45:39 AM
chad vader is weird 

(http://www.yousmoketoomuch.com/smoking-darth-vader.jpg/smoking-darth-vader-large.jpg)

lol..

what about that "god donīt like ugly" track?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on August 17, 2009, 02:40:23 PM
classic topic  :laugh:

that's when you were actually posting, Chad :D

why don't you stop postin while your at it
i can't, due to contractual obligations :(


thatīs right  ;D

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_P4nxiZJl1DY/SeCwWJquNWI/AAAAAAAAEDM/AZu16DIX0Gc/s400/darth-vader-couple.jpg)


chad vader is weird  

(http://www.yousmoketoomuch.com/smoking-darth-vader.jpg/smoking-darth-vader-large.jpg)

lol..

what about that "god donīt like ugly" track?


This is all I know about it;
Snoop Dogg; Doggystyle (God Donīt Like Ugly) preview in The Source July 1993,# 46
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3350/3249741599_bc65400051.jpg)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Blasphemy on August 22, 2009, 04:51:32 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

Mind Reuping?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on August 22, 2009, 07:21:24 PM
god dont like ugly, it was written

HEY NAS, YOUR WHOLE DAMN STYLE IS BITTEN
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on August 27, 2009, 10:57:03 AM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

Mind Reuping?
yo, if you still haven't got it yet, let me know ;)
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Blasphemy on August 27, 2009, 01:07:21 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

Mind Reuping?
yo, if you still haven't got it yet, let me know ;)

I got it :D

lol on my MP3 I put it at the end of my Doggy Style album lo
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: 2euce 7even on August 27, 2009, 01:59:35 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

Mind Reuping?
yo, if you still haven't got it yet, let me know ;)

I got it :D

lol on my MP3 I put it at the end of my Doggy Style album lo

ok.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Dre-Day on August 27, 2009, 02:18:53 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

Mind Reuping?
yo, if you still haven't got it yet, let me know ;)

I got it :D

lol on my MP3 I put it at the end of my Doggy Style album lo
so you had it all the time ;D
nice :laugh:

how is that possible though? do you use a playlist & was the song not on it, or do listen to albums separately?

you see,on my mp3 player i've selected to play all songs: in alphabetical order  ;)

Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Blasphemy on August 27, 2009, 09:23:47 PM
sure: http://www.zshare.net/audio/44241089e12df7/

Mind Reuping?
yo, if you still haven't got it yet, let me know ;)

I have my mP3 set up via albums. So All the albums are in order and I can make playlist and stuff. I have playlist of Calm G-Funk, Hardcore shit stuff like that.

All I had to do is go into the MP3 prop and put the album info, upload it and it appears at the final track. I did the same with Gz up Hoes down because I only own the Digital Remastered version. IMO I think albums should always stay in complete status. Next Episode was suppose to be on the OG doggy, so I put it. I also have the OG THUG LIFE album, but it has those fuckin tags lol its all good tags are not noticeable.

On my Chronic, I removed the song "Bitches Ain't Shit" and changed the info so its now apart of The Chronic 2 Poppa's Got A Brand New Funk (just a bunch of Death Row songs I put in a Compilation).I also put Deep Cover and its remix in my Chronic 2, cause I didn't have the track list of were it was suppose to be on the The Chronic. lol

I got it :D

lol on my MP3 I put it at the end of my Doggy Style album lo
so you had it all the time ;D
nice :laugh:

how is that possible though? do you use a playlist & was the song not on it, or do listen to albums separately?

you see,on my mp3 player i've selected to play all songs: in alphabetical order  ;)


Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: GSmith on August 28, 2009, 03:17:56 AM
Does any one have a link to the song? even if it is a terrible quality one. I never heard this song.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: hobomotel on August 28, 2009, 03:50:37 AM
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64778241be9a0c6d/
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: GSmith on August 28, 2009, 06:04:14 AM
http://www.zshare.net/audio/64778241be9a0c6d/

Thanks
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on August 28, 2009, 08:55:17 AM
its really hard to judge Next Episode against the classic songs on Doggystyle because we will probably never hear it in good quality so we can't compare but one thing I do know is Snoop blacked out on that even more than usual


even at shit quality it's one of the best westcoast songs ever
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on January 31, 2010, 08:16:43 PM

The original
Les McCann & Eddie Harris; Go On And Cry (1974)
http://www.youtube.com/v/mr6fA3ZL16g&hl=en_US&fs=1





Pimpin Young flipped the sample pretty tight on
Sittin Back Thinkin (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zw4nuyin2wm) 320 kbps
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/517wxf0Cu8L._SL500_AA280_.jpg)



another one
Cella Dwellas; Good Dwellas 1996 ( HQ )
http://www.youtube.com/v/koDqvrptgxQ&hl=en_US&fs=1
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 31, 2010, 08:18:45 PM
new pimpin young album chad?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Chad Vader on January 31, 2010, 08:21:39 PM
new pimpin young album chad?


yes  ;)
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=222865.msg2420198#msg2420198
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 31, 2010, 08:43:56 PM
i prefer the Crooked I version IMO    "real thugs"
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 31, 2010, 08:51:01 PM
Ending Beat Of "The Next Episode">>>>>>crookeds real thugs
Chamillionaire- The Next Episode Flow>>>>>
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 31, 2010, 09:04:26 PM
come on chad.....rosie O'Donnell could have made a better song than that dogg....hahaa
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 31, 2010, 09:16:03 PM

Les McCann & Eddie Harris; Go On And Cry (1974)....haha



come on chad.....rosie O'Donnell could have made a better song than that dogg....hahaa


Pimpin Young or Cella Dwellas?

Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 31, 2010, 09:29:44 PM
Ending Beat Of "The Next Episode">>>>>>crookeds real thugs
Chamillionaire- The Next Episode Flow>>>>>

crooked i's real thugs > dre and snoop > anyone else's version of next episode incuding warren g's


granted if i had a CDQ copy of dre and snoops then maybe things would change.  i still know all the lyrics to it but the Q makes it hard to want to bump it alot
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 31, 2010, 09:30:26 PM
damn you feelin this for real or jus cuz you like crookeds muzik?
cuz its really wack hack....and whats the g-dubb version?




Ending Beat Of "The Next Episode">>>>>>crookeds real thugs
Chamillionaire- The Next Episode Flow>>>>>

crooked i's real thugs > dre and snoop > anyone else's version of next episode incuding warren g's
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 31, 2010, 09:32:38 PM
damn you feelin this for real or jus cuz you like crookeds muzik?
cuz its really wack hack....and whats the g-dubb version?




Ending Beat Of "The Next Episode">>>>>>crookeds real thugs
Chamillionaire- The Next Episode Flow>>>>>

crooked i's real thugs > dre and snoop > anyone else's version of next episode incuding warren g's


crooked's verses are fucking ill as hell
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on January 31, 2010, 09:52:44 PM

Let me ask you a question Hack.... can't they be equally good?
Or has everything got be ranked?  :P

I mean they all work on different levels.
-Crooked kills it lyrically
-Dre & Snoop has that chemistry thing going for them
-Pimpin Young's sounds groovy
and so on....  ;)




nah man  we're men - we have to have a favorite
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 31, 2010, 10:00:29 PM
real talk chad





Let me ask you a question Hack.... can't they be equally good?
Or has everything got be ranked?  :P

I mean they all work on different levels.
-Crooked kills it lyrically
-Dre & Snoop has that chemistry thing going for them
-Pimpin Young's sounds groovy
and so on....  ;)

Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Nutty on January 31, 2010, 10:01:57 PM
+1 on the Pimpin Young track.
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: V2DHeart on February 01, 2010, 07:36:38 AM
damn you feelin this for real or jus cuz you like crookeds muzik?
cuz its really wack hack....and whats the g-dubb version?




Ending Beat Of "The Next Episode">>>>>>crookeds real thugs
Chamillionaire- The Next Episode Flow>>>>>

crooked i's real thugs > dre and snoop > anyone else's version of next episode incuding warren g's

You'll know it, and more than likely forgot. Runnin' Wit No Breaks from Regulate - The G Funk Era. Classic album brought out in the 90's lol

Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 01, 2010, 07:39:19 AM
damn thats not dope for real
both the crooked and g dubb versions are wack IMO




damn you feelin this for real or jus cuz you like crookeds muzik?
cuz its really wack hack....and whats the g-dubb version?




Ending Beat Of "The Next Episode">>>>>>crookeds real thugs
Chamillionaire- The Next Episode Flow>>>>>

crooked i's real thugs > dre and snoop > anyone else's version of next episode incuding warren g's

You'll know it, and more than likely forgot. Runnin' Wit No Breaks from Regulate - The G Funk Era. Classic album brought out in the 90's lol


Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Real American on February 12, 2010, 05:43:25 PM
Does anyone have a link to this song?
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Blasphemy on February 12, 2010, 06:19:58 PM
Just the LQ version. The CDQ isn't leaked yet. the LQ sounds like they are in the studio, you can still bump it but its not sounding proper. lol its like you record something at a party lo
Title: Re: Tha Next Episode OG
Post by: Real American on February 12, 2010, 07:17:06 PM
Can someone link the crappy version?