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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on November 26, 2007, 11:03:37 AM
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Sudan holds British teacher for naming bear Mohammed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/sudanbritainarrest;_ylt=AhpZJ189DuX9FfpiSOwGmi3q188F)
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by Jennie Matthew
29 minutes ago
KHARTOUM (AFP) - A British teacher in Sudan on Monday faced lashes and deportation as she languished in police custody accused of insulting the Muslim prophet for allowing young children to name a teddy bear Mohammed.
Sudanese police arrested Gillian Gibbons in Khartoum on Sunday after parents complained that she allowed six-year-old boys and girls at an expensive English school to name the bear, and so "insult" the Prophet Mohammed.
The penalty carries the death sentence for Muslims in Sudan, where Islamic Sharia law is enforced in Khartoum and the north, but a non-Muslim could face a maximum penalty of lashes, prison, a fine and deportation if found guilty.
A shaken Gibbons, whom a British embassy spokesman said on Monday had not yet been charged and who never intended that naming the bear would cause offence, was poised to spend a second night in police custody.
"She was arrested yesterday by the local police and she's currently being held in a police station in Khartoum. We visited her today. She's shaken up but she's alright," said the embassy spokesman.
"We're following up with the Sudanese authorities and also with the school who are providing her with legal representation. She's not been charged officially but there are still investigations going on," the spokesman said.
Sudanese officials on Monday closed the fee-paying Christian-run Unity High School until further notice, one teacher told AFP on condition of anonymity.
The British headmistress of the school, where the majority of pupils are Muslim from well-off Sudanese and expatriate families, was unreachable.
One teacher charged that the incident stemmed from a private dispute between another colleague and the school management.
The Sudanese Media Centre, a news agency close to the country's intelligence servives, quoted the school as apologising and allegedly claiming the teacher had been sacked.
"The school apologised officially to the students, families and all Muslims for an individual act that does not represent the policy of the school, or its deep respect for Muslims and their faith," SMC quoted the school as saying.
Members of the Khartoum state assembly swiftly demanded greater control of foreign schools, which are popular with Sudan's growing affluent class in the capital, as well as the children of embassy officials and aid workers.
For devout Muslims, any physical depiction of Mohammed is blasphemous and strictly forbidden.
If charged and brought before a court, Gibbons's fate would be decided by a judge who could sentence her to prison, a quota of lashes and a fine, independent legal experts said. She would also face certain deportation.
Gibbons was understood to have worked as a deputy headteacher at a primary school in Liverpool, northwest England, from 2002 until this July when she left for Sudan.
Her relatives declined to comment. "I have spoken with her children and they do not want to say anything and aggravate the situation over there. They have decided not to say anything," said a family spokesman.
However a former neighbour in Liverpool said she had dedicated her life to teaching children -- and lamented what has happened in Sudan.
"Gillian was a very nice person and wouldn't harm a fly. It is ridiculous what has happened," said Peter Sorensen, 64, who lived next door to Gibbons for more than 20 years.
"She will be going through hell in jail over there. I think what has happened must have come out of the blue -- it is dangerous territory, she probably hasn't realised that."
The British Foreign Office website says that while Sudan's constitution says non-Muslims shall be exempt from Sharia law, this has not yet resulted in practical changes and that people should expect Sharia law to apply.
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Muslims can be retardedly uptight when it comes to their religion. Thank God I wasn't born into such a culture. Fuck religion and Bush.
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Muslims can be retardedly uptight when it comes to their religion. Thank God I wasn't born into such a culture. Fuck religion and Bush.
agreed, due to a lack of alternative identities, which would usually be a result of education and prosperity, possible also a lack of outlet for democratic expression so they turn to their qurans
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Yeah, it's definitely only partly their fault. The west is quick to look down on other people but when put into the same situation from the beginning (culture etc) a good portion of them would act the same, similar or even worse. If there's one thing I'm unconditionally glad for then it's the fact that I was always given the chance to be different, having a relatively high freedom of expression, fuck the thought police all day every day braaaaaaat tat tat tat
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the thought police can suck my dick
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I feel sorry for the Teach..But Seriously, you are in Sudan, whnere you hear of attacks in that region or nayboring countries..i.e Ethipoa, of conflicts between Xtians & Muslim, You are the head mistress of a predominately Musilim Schools..why would you name a 'bear' "Mohammad'..??.and think nothing drastic would ensue????
Sumtime is can't understand sum pple!!
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i wouldnt be out there on some naive good intentions shit in the first place if i wasnt black
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saw this on the news before, its a fookin joke imo
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I feel sorry for the Teach..But Seriously, you are in Sudan, whnere you hear of attacks in that region or nayboring countries..i.e Ethipoa, of conflicts between Xtians & Muslim, You are the head mistress of a predominately Musilim Schools..why would you name a 'bear' "Mohammad'..??.and think nothing drastic would ensue????
Sumtime is can't understand sum pple!!
um she didn't name the bear, her students did. Even a muslim teacher at the school said she didn't find it offensice.
Plus half her students were probably called mohammad anyways, so how she supposed to know it would be an insult.
Nothing wrong with being in africa its one of the safest places in the world, don't believe the hype in the news, just aviod the war zones.
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I feel sorry for the Teach..But Seriously, you are in Sudan, whnere you hear of attacks in that region or nayboring countries..i.e Ethipoa, of conflicts between Xtians & Muslim, You are the head mistress of a predominately Musilim Schools..why would you name a 'bear' "Mohammad'..??.and think nothing drastic would ensue????
Sumtime is can't understand sum pple!!
um she didn't name the bear, her students did. Even a muslim teacher at the school said she didn't find it offensice.
Plus half her students were probably called mohammad anyways, so how she supposed to know it would be an insult.
Rite..ma Bad!!!
If her Studenst named the bear, why is She the scapegoat???
Pretty weird right??
Nothing wrong with being in africa its one of the safest places in the world, don't believe the hype in the news, just aviod the war zones.
.."safest Places in the World"..U Sure about That???
For The Most Part it's Cool..but not as safe as you make it out to be,Playa!
But thanks for clearing that info Up!
+1
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Mohammad is the most popular name used in the world. Most Muslim parents name their male children Mohammad. Aren't we being a little too sensitive here? How can you assume that it is being used in reference to Mohammad the prophet?
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I feel sorry for the Teach..But Seriously, you are in Sudan, whnere you hear of attacks in that region or nayboring countries..i.e Ethipoa, of conflicts between Xtians & Muslim, You are the head mistress of a predominately Musilim Schools..why would you name a 'bear' "Mohammad'..??.and think nothing drastic would ensue????
Sumtime is can't understand sum pple!!
Thats what I call asking for trouble.
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I feel sorry for the Teach..But Seriously, you are in Sudan, whnere you hear of attacks in that region or nayboring countries..i.e Ethipoa, of conflicts between Xtians & Muslim, You are the head mistress of a predominately Musilim Schools..why would you name a 'bear' "Mohammad'..??.and think nothing drastic would ensue????
Sumtime i can't understand sum pple!!
Thats what I call asking for trouble.
Exactly!!!
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Mohammad is the most popular name used in the world. Most Muslim parents name their male children Mohammad. Aren't we being a little too sensitive here? How can you assume that it is being used in reference to Mohammad the prophet?
True.,Guess naming our son after the Prophet is akin to reverence,and showing respect adn hoping the Son would follow the steps of the Prophet.
Naming any innate object "Mohammad" can be construed to mean something different and offensive to Muslim..That's my understanding of it..
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Now, I didn't read the article - couldn't really give a flying fuck about those brainwashedlivingintheyear450ad, but after I looked at the subject something tells me that there's something wrong with those who holds someone captive just for naming a teddybear Mohammed. Shit's lame. lol
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I feel sorry for the Teach..But Seriously, you are in Sudan, whnere you hear of attacks in that region or nayboring countries..i.e Ethipoa, of conflicts between Xtians & Muslim, You are the head mistress of a predominately Musilim Schools..why would you name a 'bear' "Mohammad'..??.and think nothing drastic would ensue????
Are you fucking serious? What sane person would ever expect to be sentenced to 40 lashes because of what they named a fucking teddy bear. No rational person could ever expect in their wildest dreams something so backwards and barbaric.
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Yeah, it's definitely only partly their fault. The west is quick to look down on other people but when put into the same situation from the beginning (culture etc) a good portion of them would act the same, similar or even worse.
Oh yes, it is always white people's fault, isn't it? Muslims are completely helpless and not responsible for anything bad they could ever do, huh?
More stupidity from 7Even.
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I support this.
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This is great news. Too bad she didn't get the 40 lashes like she deserves.
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Yeah, it's definitely only partly their fault. The west is quick to look down on other people but when put into the same situation from the beginning (culture etc) a good portion of them would act the same, similar or even worse.
Oh yes, it is always white people's fault, isn't it? Muslims are completely helpless and not responsible for anything bad they could ever do, huh?
More stupidity from 7Even.
What the hell has this to do with white people, dumbfuck? You didn't get the quintessence of my post. I'm way smarter than you either way, so think before you insult my intelligence.
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Yeah, it's definitely only partly their fault. The west is quick to look down on other people but when put into the same situation from the beginning (culture etc) a good portion of them would act the same, similar or even worse.
Oh yes, it is always white people's fault, isn't it? Muslims are completely helpless and not responsible for anything bad they could ever do, huh?
More stupidity from 7Even.
Please stop posting in this forum
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