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Title: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Doggystylin on April 02, 2008, 01:02:33 PM
those are some of the hugest human concepts and if they understand those then that is incredible

i'm fuckin blazed btw
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Floydness on April 02, 2008, 01:30:33 PM
of course they understand love and care, they also understand many other PURE emotions. Animals are much smarter than many people think...
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Doggystylin on April 02, 2008, 01:32:00 PM
then how the fuck can people say that animals can't understand pleasure through sex, that's ridiculous
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Floydness on April 02, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
who said that? lmao animals go into heat all the time, and they feel bomb once they're actually having sex.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Kill on April 03, 2008, 04:57:58 PM
I think I once read that four species can have an orgasm, I think that was humans, pigs, bonobos and dolphins...also, I think dolphins are the only species other than human to have intercourse when there's no point in it in terms of serving reproduction, so I wouldn't be sure about how most animals enjoy sex...but if they're intelligent enough to exist cosnciously (which most animals are not), they gotta enjoy it in some way, a species of animals who don't care about making babies would have quite a hard time on this planet.

And as for love and care, some animals (intelligent mammals mostly) do understand that, but not as intellectual concepts in a human sense. But intelligent animals share most basic emotions known to humans, love, hate, fear, anxiety, happiness, sadness, pleasure, even stuff like guilt or boredom
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 03, 2008, 05:19:34 PM
They understand food and fucking. That's pretty much where my comparison with the animals ends.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2008, 10:46:30 PM
They understand food and fucking. That's pretty much where my comparison with the animals ends.


That's off...animals feel emotions just like humans.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: J Bananas on April 11, 2008, 12:48:47 AM
I don't give a shit, they are all just food to me. ever have alligator? delicious.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: MoreSwaggerThanMickJagger on April 11, 2008, 09:09:08 PM
of course they understand love and care, they also understand many other PURE emotions. Animals are much smarter than many people think...
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 13, 2008, 02:56:04 AM
They understand food and fucking. That's pretty much where my comparison with the animals ends.


That's off...animals feel emotions just like humans.
I disagree!
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: herpes on April 13, 2008, 10:27:47 AM
what animal should I eat today.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 13, 2008, 03:43:10 PM
They understand food and fucking. That's pretty much where my comparison with the animals ends.


That's off...animals feel emotions just like humans.
I disagree!


go get drunk and you might just change your mind.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Elevz on April 15, 2008, 12:33:16 AM
Animals don't understand anything. They recognize however, and they value. What's interesting is that their values aren't as conflicting as those of most humans.

Love and care aren't necessarily human concepts, btw. Care is a concept of life, and love is the expression of it. Any dog who enjoys his life, will recognize the caring of his owner, and love him accordingly.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 15, 2008, 05:19:22 PM
They understand food and fucking. That's pretty much where my comparison with the animals ends.


That's off...animals feel emotions just like humans.
I disagree!


go get drunk and you might just change your mind.
I did, but I still disagree. Sure, there are those cases where a dog will save their owner, but he is merely protecting his investment.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: JAZ on April 16, 2008, 08:34:51 AM
do you think your dog loves you? yeah, it loves the food youre giving it.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 16, 2008, 11:56:49 AM
do you think your dog loves you? yeah, it loves the food youre giving it.


that's some dumbass shit to say...dogs love attention and care, just like humans. same with cats and most other animals.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: JAZ on April 16, 2008, 04:07:17 PM
do you think your dog loves you? yeah, it loves the food youre giving it.


that's some dumbass shit to say...dogs love attention and care, just like humans. same with cats and most other animals.
name 3 animals that hate love, attention and care.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: WestCoasta on April 16, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
do you think your dog loves you? yeah, it loves the food youre giving it.

if you really pay attention to a dog then yeah they 'love' you

my dad is always with the dog and takin him out front and playin, he follows him everywhere but the bathroom
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: JAZ on April 16, 2008, 04:29:30 PM
thats because the dog believes it needs your dad to survive. if a dog realises it can get food on his own, and no owner gives it anything, itll be like go fetch that stick your self, miscreant.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: WestCoasta on April 16, 2008, 06:37:53 PM
I think you're getting dogs and cats confused

I mean, anyone who has a dog (and is relatively nice to it and shows it attention) knows that dogs show affection back

whether or not they understand shit is irrelevant, you're being too cut and dry with it

of course dogs can see when a person treats it right, that's why it trusts you

there are people who don't feed their dogs and treat them like shit and they still try to get attention from the owner
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Sikotic™ on April 16, 2008, 08:30:08 PM
The minute I jump out of my bed, my dog comes running into my room bowing before me and shit. I go to the kitchen, bust out the Purina One and he doesn't bother me until later on in the day.

That's true love.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Kill on April 17, 2008, 08:51:56 AM
It really ain't as simple as some of you are trying to make it. Of course animals can't think in the same intellectual way that humans can, but some more intelligent animals have a similar system of emotions built into them as we do. Homo sapiens is just the animal with the most highly developed brain in the areas responsible for human culture, but other than that, it's not like we're anything special in a biological sense.

This is interesting too (http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20070630/fob7.asp)
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Cheese on April 18, 2008, 10:06:45 AM
This actually is an interesting question. Some theories assume animal behaviour is simply the reaction to a stimulus, whereby only humanbeings have the capability to interpret a stimulus.
Other theories claim some animals have the capability to interpret a stimulus too.
I really wouldn't know the answer. Is animal behaviour just the result of conditioning and reinforcement, whereby emotions are just human interpretations of animal behaviour? Does a dog really show "affection (which is a concept made up my humanbeings)" when a human is feeding it, or is his behaviour simply reinforcing the human to give it more food?
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 18, 2008, 02:44:14 PM
Has anyone heard of the story where a guy was being attacked by a Grizzly bear, only to be saved by his dog?... the dog ended up dying, but if that's not love and care, then I dunno what is. Point is, animals can feel emotions just like humans can. Just because they are not as complex as us doesn't mean they don't understand love. If you enforce positive energy on a cat, it will purr. If the cat loves you, it will come back to you and purr every time it feels the love. When I sleep at my girls house, the cat wakes me up by laying on my chest and purring. Then when I start petting him, he rubs his head into my face. Anyone who thinks animals are all about food is lost.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Cheese on April 18, 2008, 03:06:44 PM
Has anyone heard of the story where a guy was being attacked by a Grizzly bear, only to be saved by his dog?... the dog ended up dying, but if that's not love and care, then I dunno what is. Point is, animals can feel emotions just like humans can. Just because they are not as complex as us doesn't mean they don't understand love. If you enforce positive energy on a cat, it will purr. If the cat loves you, it will come back to you and purr every time it feels the love. When I sleep at my girls house, the cat wakes me up by laying on my chest and purring. Then when I start petting him, he rubs his head into my face. Anyone who thinks animals are all about food is lost.

So where's your evidence animals can feel emotions just like humans can? Love is concept made up by humanbeings, which maybe only exists in our own minds. The concept of love actually differs a lot among different cultures. Just because you interpret the animal's behaviour as loving, doesn't have to mean the animal actually feels the love? The cat, for example, knows that purring will be rewarded with petting, which gonna make pur it even more. Where's the love in that cyclus? And the dog trying to save it's owner is simple group behaviour. That's how wolves support eachother in the wild too. There's no love involved in that, it's just altruďstic behaviour.
I'm not saying animals can't feel love, but for now I don't see any real scientific evidence.
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 18, 2008, 04:18:07 PM
Has anyone heard of the story where a guy was being attacked by a Grizzly bear, only to be saved by his dog?... the dog ended up dying, but if that's not love and care, then I dunno what is. Point is, animals can feel emotions just like humans can. Just because they are not as complex as us doesn't mean they don't understand love. If you enforce positive energy on a cat, it will purr. If the cat loves you, it will come back to you and purr every time it feels the love. When I sleep at my girls house, the cat wakes me up by laying on my chest and purring. Then when I start petting him, he rubs his head into my face. Anyone who thinks animals are all about food is lost.

So where's your evidence animals can feel emotions just like humans can? Love is concept made up by humanbeings, which maybe only exists in our own minds. The concept of love actually differs a lot among different cultures. Just because you interpret the animal's behaviour as loving, doesn't have to mean the animal actually feels the love? The cat, for example, knows that purring will be rewarded with petting, which gonna make pur it even more. Where's the love in that cyclus? And the dog trying to save it's owner is simple group behaviour. That's how wolves support eachother in the wild too. There's no love involved in that, it's just altruďstic behaviour.
I'm not saying animals can't feel love, but for now I don't see any real scientific evidence.


When a cat purrs that means it feels content...they don't choose to purr, it just comes out. Explain why a cat will fall asleep on a humans chest purring? If the human leaves the room, the cat stops purring. LOL. Love is an energy. You can feel an animals energy when it's loving. Do you own any pets, by any chance?
Title: Re: Animals understand love and care?
Post by: Cheese on April 19, 2008, 03:19:10 AM
Has anyone heard of the story where a guy was being attacked by a Grizzly bear, only to be saved by his dog?... the dog ended up dying, but if that's not love and care, then I dunno what is. Point is, animals can feel emotions just like humans can. Just because they are not as complex as us doesn't mean they don't understand love. If you enforce positive energy on a cat, it will purr. If the cat loves you, it will come back to you and purr every time it feels the love. When I sleep at my girls house, the cat wakes me up by laying on my chest and purring. Then when I start petting him, he rubs his head into my face. Anyone who thinks animals are all about food is lost.

So where's your evidence animals can feel emotions just like humans can? Love is concept made up by humanbeings, which maybe only exists in our own minds. The concept of love actually differs a lot among different cultures. Just because you interpret the animal's behaviour as loving, doesn't have to mean the animal actually feels the love? The cat, for example, knows that purring will be rewarded with petting, which gonna make pur it even more. Where's the love in that cyclus? And the dog trying to save it's owner is simple group behaviour. That's how wolves support eachother in the wild too. There's no love involved in that, it's just altruďstic behaviour.
I'm not saying animals can't feel love, but for now I don't see any real scientific evidence.


When a cat purrs that means it feels content...they don't choose to purr, it just comes out. Explain why a cat will fall asleep on a humans chest purring? If the human leaves the room, the cat stops purring. LOL. Love is an energy. You can feel an animals energy when it's loving. Do you own any pets, by any chance?

I have a dog. I feel like I'm important for it and the dog gives me "love" back. Although that "love" is my interpretation of the dog's bahaviour. It's impossible to tell if there are actually any feeling involved from the dogs behalf.