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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: infinite59 on March 23, 2002, 05:49:57 PM
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Assulamulakum Brothers. In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful! All praises are due to Allah, the Lord of all worlds! Salutations and Blessings to brothers Prince Techniec, Infinite, Illicit, I BO, 7TH, Doggystylin, Jamal, Roccy, NimaDPG, PakiGangsta, BL7, Cant C Me, Waswipp, and H20Proof.
Quote from the Qu'ran for the week: Dealing with Reciprocity, "Revenge, Retaliation, and Get Back."
Surah 2
"But if they cease,
Let there be no hostility
Except to those
Who practice oppresion"
- If the opposite party ceases to persecute you, your hostility ends with them as a party, but it does not mean you become friends to oppresion. Your fight is against wrong; there should be no rancour against men.
Islamic Hip-Hop Quote of the Week: Comes from our brother MC Ren off "The Villian In Black" album
"I Don't eat swine but I'll take a turkey burger/
I can't fade worms/
That pork's full of germs/"
and
"Blind your sight/
From the shit that I recite/
Live from Compton/
It's Saturday Night/
But ain't no jokes/
Cause I don't play that shit/
Niggaz you know I ain't no muthafuckin comic/
Droppin Street Knowledge/
Plus a nigga Islamic/"
Salam brothers: That is all for this week. One life, One love, and One God. Let's all unite under the oneness of God. Salam. ~1~
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Nice shit Infinite......
If u really do drop this kinda knowledge every week from now on then mad props goes out 2 u......
Dat MC Ren rhyme waz pretty tight, I neva heard dat before, Ima d/l dat......
MB Reppin....... ;D.......Holla.
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Nice shit Infinite......
If u really do drop this kinda knowledge every week from now on then mad props goes out 2 u......
Dat MC Ren rhyme waz pretty tight, I neva heard dat before, Ima d/l dat......
MB Reppin....... ;D.......Holla.
Thanks brother man.... those were quotes from two different songs off of Villian In Black, "Keepin It Real" and "Live From Compton It's Saturday Night"
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"I Don't eat swine but I'll take a turkey burger/
I can't fade worms/
That pork's full of germs/"
and
"Blind your sight/
From the shit that I recite/
Live from Compton/
It's Saturday Night/
But ain't no jokes/
Cause I don't play that shit/
Niggaz you know I ain't no muthafuckin comic/
Droppin Street Knowledge/
Plus a nigga Islamic/"
I know that song, but i never even payed attention to what he meant. That's kinda dope.
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infinite....thank you very much 4 the post.....did u jus start this or have u been postin the "muslim newsletter" 4 a while now?...cuz i'm new at the board and its coo to read sumthin like this once in a while
keep it up brother
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as yall know i aint a religeous person i decided to check a few of infinites post to see wtf he talken about.. and from a person blind to religeon.. it seems ur quote was basically sayen.. dont show hostitlity to sumone unless they show opression.. i dun understand what that means.. but correct me if im wrong isnt that telling u to show hostility to ppl? im jsut curious..
holla
~1~
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Thanks Infinite nice post.
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as yall know i aint a religeous person i decided to check a few of infinites post to see wtf he talken about.. and from a person blind to religeon.. it seems ur quote was basically sayen.. dont show hostitlity to sumone unless they show opression.. i dun understand what that means.. but correct me if im wrong isnt that telling u to show hostility to ppl? im jsut curious..
holla
~1~
show hostility to those who oppress u, basically defend yourself but dont be an aggressor...
peace
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btw
jazakumullah infini for the newsletter, keep em coming, u need help holla at me...
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show hostility to those who oppress u, basically defend yourself but dont be an aggressor...
peace
whoa...lines like this might rase alot of contrevercy...i mean...if you think about it...this iz one of tha fulez dat might and prolly already have been used by terroristic relegiouslly fanatic organisationz....tha whole Gihad concept iz made from lines like this one.
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so basically we shouldnt defend ourselves?
i mean suicide bombers in discos are stupid, thats fuckin dumb
i condemn that to the fullest...........
but palestinians killing israeli soldiers in the west bank and gaza, thats legitimate resistance.........
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Good post Infinite. Nice quotes too, I didn't even know MC Ren was a Muslim. ???
Peace out....
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so basically we shouldnt defend ourselves?
i mean suicide bombers in discos are stupid, thats fuckin dumb
i condemn that to the fullest...........
but palestinians killing israeli soldiers in the west bank and gaza, thats legitimate resistance.........
Killings a form of legitimate resistance?
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Killings a form of legitimate resistance?
thank you...dis iz^ exactlly what i waz gonna say...
but palestinians killing israeli soldiers in the west bank and gaza, thats legitimate resistance
tha ISRAELI soljhaz ain"t sent to GAZA and tha west bank for fun you know......do you think that any of us enjoy servin at tha hot spottz....dayyum tha soljhaz iz da ones dat suffer tha most...and most consistentlly. tha soljhaz sent to GAZA and tha west bank r there to prevent terroristz from gettin out of there...come on...even when tha soljhaz r there there iz enough terorristz mannagin to get out of there...so we need them to be there to protect tha sevilianz inside Israel.
tha soljhaz ain"t sent there to kill palestinianz...so what protection r you exactlly talkin about?.
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as yall know i aint a religeous person i decided to check a few of infinites post to see wtf he talken about.. and from a person blind to religeon.. it seems ur quote was basically sayen.. dont show hostitlity to sumone unless they show opression.. i dun understand what that means.. but correct me if im wrong isnt that telling u to show hostility to ppl? im jsut curious..
holla
~1~
Islam, is in my opinion more realistic then Christianity. Chritianity describes the way the world should be, and Islam describes the way the world is, in addition to how it should be. Like Techniec said, show hostility to those who oppress you, but don't be the aggresor. Turnin the other cheek, isn't always realistic. Which has been shown in the American-Afgan War, neither side chose to turn the other cheek. Although I believe it could have been done. It is more valued to practice non-violent resistence in Islam. Islam is a way of life. It's a complete religion, the Qu'ran leaves no stone unturned. It is socio-political, socio-religious, socio-economical, educational, legislative, judicial, and militaristic system garbed in religious terminology. Our prophets, are humans, who recieved prophetic messages from God. (Allah) There have been hundreds of prophets, even some who are still unknown I believe, since the begining of time, who spoke of One God. Abraham, peace be unto him, Moses, peace be unto him, Noah, peace be unto him, Mary, peace be unto her, Jesus Christ, peace be unto him, Muhammad, peace be unto him, and some even believe Noble Drew Ali and Elijah Muhammad to be the prophets who revealed the truth of God to the lost tribe of Shabazz, and other lost and destitute descendants of the trans-atlantic slave trade. Islam has always been one of the more dominant religions in Africa. Consequently, many slave descendants have been robbed of their true name and religion. However, I myself, am an orthodox Muslim so I refer to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be unto him, as the last in a long line of devinely inspired messengers of God. (Allah) ~1~
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^^ Christianity sums up how the world "should" be in one simple phrase. What Would Jesus Do? And according to my faith, jesus was without sin. So we should strive to be like him. And my question is, how is it unrealistic to TRY and be like him? God is realistic enough to know that we cannot, and will not be perfect. That is why Jesus died for us, so that we can be forgiven for the sins we make. The bible isn't one big book of should and shouldn'ts. It is a source of wisdom, guidance, and healing. I'm not going to try and convince you Infinite, or anyone of the Muslim faith that one way or the other is wrong. I just get upset with assumptions, that Christianity is unrealistic. I might feel the same way about Islamic beliefs, but I won't display that for the simple fact that I don't know all that it has to offer, and I have NOT read the Qu'ran, so I don't feel justified in criticizing it's beliefs. I HAVE read the entire bible, so I can, and will discuss with anyone who wants to on Christianity. Peace though, not tryin to start anything.
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I should also add, that I'm sorry for cluttering a Muslim Brotherhood Newsletter with views on Christianity. The only reason I entered the thread in the first place is because I am curious as to Muslim beliefs. I will forever believe that Jesus is the son of god, but I am interested in seeing what other religions believe, and say. So once again, sorry for bringing a non muslim response to the board. Hope no one objects to a Christian reading your info.
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^^ Christianity sums up how the world "should" be in one simple phrase. What Would Jesus Do? And according to my faith, jesus was without sin. So we should strive to be like him. And my question is, how is it unrealistic to TRY and be like him? God is realistic enough to know that we cannot, and will not be perfect. That is why Jesus died for us, so that we can be forgiven for the sins we make. The bible isn't one big book of should and shouldn'ts. It is a source of wisdom, guidance, and healing. I'm not going to try and convince you Infinite, or anyone of the Muslim faith that one way or the other is wrong. I just get upset with assumptions, that Christianity is unrealistic. I might feel the same way about Islamic beliefs, but I won't display that for the simple fact that I don't know all that it has to offer, and I have NOT read the Qu'ran, so I don't feel justified in criticizing it's beliefs. I HAVE read the entire bible, so I can, and will discuss with anyone who wants to on Christianity. Peace though, not tryin to start anything.
Exactly. if everyone strived to be like Jesus then I believe there would be way less troubles in the world today.
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Exactly. if everyone strived to be like Jesus then I believe there would be way less troubles in the world today.
That's why Jesus is a prophet on the same level as Muhammad in Islam.... But Christians saying that God doesn't seek vengence against wrong doers is a lie, you'll find that if you've read any of the Old Testement... God burns people at the stake, and other tortorous methods for wrong doing.
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Yeah Infinite, OLD TESTIMENT! If you read the bible, the entire bible, you will find out why Jesus is so important to Christianity. That is when God stopped with the vengence. He put himself on the earth in human form basically, and saw our pain, lived in our flesh, and gave himself for our sins, meaning that we can be forgiven. Since Jesus, God has never acted against man. It is that simple.
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Yeah Infinite, OLD TESTIMENT! If you read the bible, the entire bible, you will find out why Jesus is so important to Christianity. That is when God stopped with the vengence. He put himself on the earth in human form basically, and saw our pain, lived in our flesh, and gave himself for our sins, meaning that we can be forgiven. Since Jesus, God has never acted against man. It is that simple.
First off, good discussion, I don't mind any Christians entering the weekly newsletter and offering their thoughts and concerns, as long as we keep it respectable, like we have been.
You brought up two things. One. Are you saying God was wrong in the Old Testament? And two. Myself and many Muslims veiw, nature, death, natural disasters, etc., as the wrath of God, or God showing that he is far-reaching and limitless, his awesome and ultimate power.
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That's why Jesus is a prophet on the same level as Muhammad in Islam.... But Christians saying that God doesn't seek vengence against wrong doers is a lie, you'll find that if you've read any of the Old Testement... God burns people at the stake, and other tortorous methods for wrong doing.
There are no Christians in there right mind that would say God doesn't punish people when they do wrong. Where are you getting your info from?
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Killings a form of legitimate resistance?
Right there homie, ^^ You questioned Islamic theology, and gave me the impression, that you have the misconception, that God was never vengeful, and never violent... but apparently, you don't have that mindset. So are we on the same page?
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You know what Infinite, I had a huge paragraph written out trying to explain my views on why things happen, and whether or not god was wrong in being a vengeful god before Jesus, but I know our (you and I) type. No amount of typing will convince the other what is what. I'll say this. The God that I know, and have prayed to since I was 3 years old, is a kind, and loving god. I don't fear him like Baptists, or other denominations preach, but I respect his power, and know that if he wanted me off this earth this second, it would happen... so in that sense, I do fear him, however, I don't view god that way. I veiw him as my friend, father, leader, and ticket into heaven. God is my best friend. I know that no matter when or where I end up, he is with me the whole time. No one can shake that, and it takes a load off my shoulders everytime I get down on something to think that he is there with me. I know that when I pray for forgiveness EVERY night, he does just that. Out of respect for him, I pray constantly, tell him the things he has done that helped me, thank him for those things, and even question why things happen. Although he has never verbally spoken to me, I see his answers every day. If I look, I can see god in everything.
Now, does that mean that I'm right about everything I just wrote?? Who knows. Maybe god does send natural disasters to wipe out villages, or bombs WTC's to prove a point to capitalistic societys... I won't know till I'm in heaven. I will just say that the god that I know, and pray to does not want to see men die. He wants them to follow in his path, and have good lives. Once again, I'm not saying that this is exactly how god is, or feels, I have nothing to go on besides my own walk.. so take that for what it is worth. I respect your faith, and your knowledge on several issues, and this is not meant to be a bring down for you Infinite. I just feel that maybe you are too quick to blame mans', and natures' violence on God.
As to Sikotic, I wasn't saying that people who do wrong don't go punished, eventually, we all get judged on our own faults/sins, whatever, just saying that God does not mass punish anymore since the Old Testiment (floods, firestorms, ect..)
Peace everyone. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.
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You know what Infinite, I had a huge paragraph written out trying to explain my views on why things happen, and whether or not god was wrong in being a vengeful god before Jesus, but I know our (you and I) type. No amount of typing will convince the other what is what. I'll say this. The God that I know, and have prayed to since I was 3 years old, is a kind, and loving god. I don't fear him like Baptists, or other denominations preach, but I respect his power, and know that if he wanted me off this earth this second, it would happen... so in that sense, I do fear him, however, I don't view god that way. I veiw him as my friend, father, leader, and ticket into heaven. God is my best friend. I know that no matter when or where I end up, he is with me the whole time. No one can shake that, and it takes a load off my shoulders everytime I get down on something to think that he is there with me. I know that when I pray for forgiveness EVERY night, he does just that. Out of respect for him, I pray constantly, tell him the things he has done that helped me, thank him for those things, and even question why things happen. Although he has never verbally spoken to me, I see his answers every day. If I look, I can see god in everything.
Now, does that mean that I'm right about everything I just wrote?? Who knows. Maybe god does send natural disasters to wipe out villages, or bombs WTC's to prove a point to capitalistic societys... I won't know till I'm in heaven. I will just say that the god that I know, and pray to does not want to see men die. He wants them to follow in his path, and have good lives. Once again, I'm not saying that this is exactly how god is, or feels, I have nothing to go on besides my own walk.. so take that for what it is worth. I respect your faith, and your knowledge on several issues, and this is not meant to be a bring down for you Infinite. I just feel that maybe you are too quick to blame mans', and natures' violence on God.
As to Sikotic, I wasn't saying that people who do wrong don't go punished, eventually, we all get judged on our own faults/sins, whatever, just saying that God does not mass punish anymore since the Old Testiment (floods, firestorms, ect..)
Peace everyone. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.
damn dogg, i feel you there, i see what your sayin and agree 100%, ima muslim and i believe the same things your sayin, peace,
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^^ See, part of the reason I've been intrigued by the muslim conversations on this board is due to the similarities between my views, and some of you cats. It is interesting. Glad that even though we worship differently, we can see important things eye to eye. Peace.
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You know what Infinite, I had a huge paragraph written out trying to explain my views on why things happen, and whether or not god was wrong in being a vengeful god before Jesus, but I know our (you and I) type. No amount of typing will convince the other what is what. I'll say this. The God that I know, and have prayed to since I was 3 years old, is a kind, and loving god. I don't fear him like Baptists, or other denominations preach, but I respect his power, and know that if he wanted me off this earth this second, it would happen... so in that sense, I do fear him, however, I don't view god that way. I veiw him as my friend, father, leader, and ticket into heaven. God is my best friend. I know that no matter when or where I end up, he is with me the whole time. No one can shake that, and it takes a load off my shoulders everytime I get down on something to think that he is there with me. I know that when I pray for forgiveness EVERY night, he does just that. Out of respect for him, I pray constantly, tell him the things he has done that helped me, thank him for those things, and even question why things happen. Although he has never verbally spoken to me, I see his answers every day. If I look, I can see god in everything.
Now, does that mean that I'm right about everything I just wrote?? Who knows. Maybe god does send natural disasters to wipe out villages, or bombs WTC's to prove a point to capitalistic societys... I won't know till I'm in heaven. I will just say that the god that I know, and pray to does not want to see men die. He wants them to follow in his path, and have good lives. Once again, I'm not saying that this is exactly how god is, or feels, I have nothing to go on besides my own walk.. so take that for what it is worth. I respect your faith, and your knowledge on several issues, and this is not meant to be a bring down for you Infinite. I just feel that maybe you are too quick to blame mans', and natures' violence on God.
As to Sikotic, I wasn't saying that people who do wrong don't go punished, eventually, we all get judged on our own faults/sins, whatever, just saying that God does not mass punish anymore since the Old Testiment (floods, firestorms, ect..)
Peace everyone. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.
First off, I have nothing but respect for you, your thoughts, and opinions. But let me explain to you the other side of what you just said.
Alot of folks today, are living with a God complex. Whether, that be parents, your boss, governments, kings, or just your next door nieghbor. They are giulty of self-love, and they think that man is all-powerful, and that man dominates the world, and nature, they are arrogant, bourgeiouse, and conceded. They need to be humbled, so they can learn appreciation and respect for ones self and one's nature. And it is only when they reach the understanding that generations of people have been wiped out before us. And once again, we too, will be wiped out. Man has no real power. All the power, and all the glory, is with God. And man should never fear man, man should only fear God. If a cop pulls you over, if you lie to him, you fear him more than you fear God. And I am often giulty of that as well. But a prophet, or spiritually excellent man, would never lie, for he believes strongly that God is the hearer and knower of all of our actions, and we shall fear him, and not the cop. If you fear man, then you are more likely to lie and be decietful. So to fear God, is to be humble and righteous, and fair in your dealings. This is the straight path.
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Right there homie, ^^ You questioned Islamic theology, and gave me the impression, that you have the misconception, that God was never vengeful, and never violent... but apparently, you don't have that mindset. So are we on the same page?
I was questioning Techniec when he said Palestinians killing Jewish soldiers is a form of legitimite resistance. I wasn't talking about God.
It was just a misunderstanding so it's cool.
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So if what you are saying is the true path in the islamic faith, then there is the biggest difference between Christians, and Muslims.
Jesus taught us to Love god. He also taugh god to love us, no matter what. We should always be mindful of what god could do if he wanted, but it isn't like that anymore, and won't be until satan (antichrist) walks amoung us again.
I hope you didn't twist me saying God is my friend as me saying I didn't fear. I meant what I said by knowing that only God can control my eternity, not a cop, not nature, not any human act of violence ect..
Once again, I'm not trying to turn you to christianity, just giving you my personal observations.
And you are right. Too many christians have a god complex. I wish everyone would worry about their own path, and not concern theirselves with telling others how to live their life, and focusing on the examples that you yourself stated with the police officer, neighbor, parents, ect.. It makes me sad. And christians that stray too far away from the true meaning, give the religion a bad name.
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As to Sikotic, I wasn't saying that people who do wrong don't go punished, eventually, we all get judged on our own faults/sins, whatever, just saying that God does not mass punish anymore since the Old Testiment (floods, firestorms, ect..)
Peace everyone. Sorry if I pissed anyone off.
You didn't piss me off because I was agreeing with pretty much everything you were speaking on.
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You didn't piss me off because I was agreeing with pretty much everything you were speaking on.
Okay man, just makin sure.
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yes killing is a form of resistance!! no my bad, handing our roses is ........ ???
fuck, those soldiers serving in the Palestinian terrorities
should be as brave and valiant as those 300 Refuse-niks, who see through the blood and smoke and refuse to serve in the occupied terrorities
and i to da geezy, the military censores its actions in the occupied terrorities, so are u sure u know whats REALLY happening in there,just wondering.......
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and basically infini put it down beautifully
we should fear God, yet love him as well, we are all servants of Him, so we should never lose our fear of him lest we reduce His prominence
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So if what you are saying is the true path in the islamic faith, then there is the biggest difference between Christians, and Muslims.
Jesus taught us to Love god. He also taugh god to love us, no matter what. We should always be mindful of what god could do if he wanted, but it isn't like that anymore, and won't be until satan (antichrist) walks amoung us again.
I hope you didn't twist me saying God is my friend as me saying I didn't fear. I meant what I said by knowing that only God can control my eternity, not a cop, not nature, not any human act of violence ect..
Once again, I'm not trying to turn you to christianity, just giving you my personal observations.
And you are right. Too many christians have a god complex. I wish everyone would worry about their own path, and not concern theirselves with telling others how to live their life, and focusing on the examples that you yourself stated with the police officer, neighbor, parents, ect.. It makes me sad. And christians that stray too far away from the true meaning, give the religion a bad name.
Jesus (peace be unto him) taught Muslims those same things, he is an exalted prophet in Islam just like Muhammad, (peace be unto him).
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i jus wanted to add something to this conversation....i dunno if anyone already mentioned this becuz i havent had time to read all the posts.....its a long thread.......but.....
muslims view the Bible and Torah as holy books , we believe in what is written in they say and we do not claim your holy books as false.....but we do believe they are incomplete because they were written before the life of Muhammed (peace be upon him)....which we believe is the last of the messengers
i'm glad christians as well as mulims post their opinions and views.....it helps us to understand each other, learn more about each other's religion, and we can see all the similarities that these two religions share....because we r not all that different.....we believe in the same SINGLE ALMIGHTY GOD.....except we refer to GOD as ALLAH
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i jus wanted to add something to this conversation....i dunno if anyone already mentioned this becuz i havent had time to read all the posts.....its a long thread.......but.....
muslims view the Bible and Torah as holy books , we believe in what is written in they say and we do not claim your holy books as false.....but we do believe they are incomplete because they were written before the life of Muhammed (peace be upon him)....which we believe is the last of the messengers
i'm glad christians as well as mulims post their opinions and views.....it helps us to understand each other, learn more about each other's religion, and we can see all the similarities that these two religions share....because we r not all that different.....we believe in the same SINGLE ALMIGHTY GOD.....except we refer to GOD as ALLAH
WORD. Al-Hamdu-Illah.
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yes killing is a form of resistance!! no my bad, handing our roses is ........ ???
fuck, those soldiers serving in the Palestinian terrorities
should be as brave and valiant as those 300 Refuse-niks, who see through the blood and smoke and refuse to serve in the occupied terrorities
and i to da geezy, the military censores its actions in the occupied terrorities, so are u sure u know whats REALLY happening in there,just wondering.......
ok...i dont" mean to diss you or anythang but saying "fuck those soldiers" iz a very ignorent statement....by sayin it you also diss me and my friendz who go there and get killed...
do you think that it"z their choice to go wherever they"re sent? those r decisionz coming from tha government.
second of all....as you know we have every teen at 18 yearz old going to tha army...and even peepz who already served still r considered spare soljhaz on whatever duty they were...so even if there iz a normal secret keepin" (after all it"z da millitarry...) peepz iz aware of whaz going on.....now...do you think we should leave GAZA and tha west bank and let terroristz come in as if it waz their back yard?....FUCK THAT...FUCK THAt shit....NO FUCKIN way we gonna alow them come in and kill us and our familyz....
i repeat tha soljhaz ain"t sent to kill palestinianz they r sent there to prevent terroristz from gettin in...and yea...also kill terorristz they know fa sho" iz gonna make moves...
of course as in every war there iz inocent peepz dieing"...but they r dieing on both sidez.
now as for those refuse-nikz .....tha harm that they cauzed Israel wit their sudden" change of mind or whatever waz going through their head when they did that....iz visable...yea of course there iz alwayz place for moralz...but this iz a war...and thingz happen...we"re fightin for our place under tha sun....what they did waz very iresponsable...i can understand tha stress they were under since tha beginin of tha Intifaada...but this waz straight up fallin under presure...
p.s you seem to be mo critical of Israel that tryies to protect itself from terroristz than of tha terorrism supportin"-inconect people killing-unwillin to leave in peace-leadership of tha authority(notice:not tha palestinianz....tha headz of tha authority...most notably Y. Arafat)
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first of all homie, u off line...
i didnt say "fuck those soldiers"
i just said "fuck" at the beginning of the sentence
"fuck, those soldiers..."
youre right it would be incorrect of me to address those soldiers by that regard because your govt fucks up not the people
ok so next time look out for the commas homeboy
as for leaving the gaza to the terrorists...
the second you leave gaza and west bank, terrorism will be finished,
Hamas and Islamic Jihad dont recognize Israels right to exist, yeah thats true, but Al Aqsa Bridgades and PFLP, as well as Fatah would all accept peace and Hamas and Islamic Jihad would lose all the support they have
Hamas and Islamic Jihad only have support rite now cuz there are no options left
as for criticizing Israelis more than Palestinians....
I condemn suicide attacks in civilian areas
I condemn intentionally targeting of civilians
I denounce the PLO, i think they became an inefficiant corrupt body a long time ago
but you cant denounce the victims more than the oppressors....
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first of all homie, u off line...
i didnt say "fuck those soldiers"
i just said "fuck" at the beginning of the sentence
"fuck, those soldiers..."
youre right it would be incorrect of me to address those soldiers by that regard because your govt fucks up not the people
ok so next time look out for the commas homeboy
as for leaving the gaza to the terrorists...
the second you leave gaza and west bank, terrorism will be finished,
Hamas and Islamic Jihad dont recognize Israels right to exist, yeah thats true, but Al Aqsa Bridgades and PFLP, as well as Fatah would all accept peace and Hamas and Islamic Jihad would lose all the support they have
Hamas and Islamic Jihad only have support rite now cuz there are no options left
as for criticizing Israelis more than Palestinians....
I condemn suicide attacks in civilian areas
I condemn intentionally targeting of civilians
I denounce the PLO, i think they became an inefficiant corrupt body a long time ago
but you cant denounce the victims more than the oppressors....
:)...i"m glad we cleared that missunderstandin about "fuck, those soljhaz"...ok now to tha arguement...
go figga who iz tha victim...and why do you use tha word opressor....you should use tha word agressor...if tha palestinianz have their own authority...what opresion r you talkin about ....if they have their place...how can we possibly opress them....if you mean tha soljhaz...i told you what they r doing in GAZA and tha WEST bank...
now as for what you said about tha terroristic actz stopin if tha soljhaz would get out of GAZA and tha west bank...
why do you think they came in , in tha first place....cauze they planned an army trip to da occupied territoryz?...think about it ...they came in cauze there waz no other choice...i promiss you no Israeli enjoyz serving there...now as for our government being fucked up....you see...WE r democratical...and alow me to remind you that tha mess started when Barak waz da prime (he iz a left wing guy)...and he gave arfat 97%of tha demand. on camp david......if you recall....arfat din"t take prolly tha most generous offer any Israeli government would ever agree to give.... Yaser declined it....
so really iz OUR gov tha one datz fucked up?
than tha Intifaada kicked in...which waz a matter of time we all knew were arfatz decline leadz...and than SHaron tha right wing guy gettz ellected...createz a national support government and startz workin on what waz left to him by the previous prime....still sharon iz very very compromizing for a right wing guy.....you should know it...so i don"t think our governement iz in anyway responsable for whatz going on....it"z all Arafatz and hiz suroundinz folt.
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regardless of whether it was Israels best offer or not
it wasnt a right offer
israel needs to withdraw from 100% of the West Bank and Gaza, and Golah Heights
dismantle all settlements cuz those are fuckin illegal
right of return...that can be negotiated
in return, PLO recognizes Israel and clamps down on terrorists but Arafat is a proxie
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regardless of whether it was Israels best offer or not
it wasnt a right offer
israel needs to withdraw from 100% of the West Bank and Gaza, and Golah Heights
dismantle all settlements cuz those are fuckin illegal
right of return...that can be negotiated
in return, PLO recognizes Israel and clamps down on terrorists but Arafat is a proxie
this waz all mo less possible when Barak waz here...now after all ths fuckin Intifaada....i doubt they will get anythang....
second....Israel must not negotiate under fire.
and.... oh JOY tha PLO will recognize Israel...whoohoo oh happy day...really?....this iz what we have existed for...come on man...who cares about those fuckin terorristz...
look what happent after we gave LEBANON that security zone....now tha hizballa just haz better positionz to bomb us.
p.s as for tha setellmentz...did ya know they weren"t even in tha palestinian originall demand?...it"z just one of tha shitz they use to show they have reasonz for tha terorristic actz....
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^ what gave Israel a right to set up a country on Palestinian land in the first place?.....u know Israel only been around for like 60 years........
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dont take me the wrong way I am glad that Jews got to establish a country of their own that they can call home.....but the point of my previous post was to tell u to take things from the perspective of the Palestinians......they had been living there for centuries and all of a sudden a whole new government comes into being and takes away half the land......how would u feel in their position?.....so i hope u can see why these people are filled wit this kind of anger.....
personally I hope this conflict ends as soon as possible because all the lives being lost on both sides are not worth this battle.....I dont take sides....I think both sides are wrong
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infinite59 i'm sorry if i have messed up ur muslim newsletter post.....we should have started a new thread for the previous discussion
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^ what gave Israel a right to set up a country on Palestinian land in the first place?.....u know Israel only been around for like 60 years........
hmmm.....letz think...you"ve read tha bible?...na seriouslly man aside of this land being hystoryclly jewish land...tha palestinianz themselves exist basiclly on paper just like Israel if we look at this practiclly...tha so called palestinian declaration said "every one who lived in palestine since year so and so iz considered palestinian"....this iz basiclly what waz uniting these people in tha beginin"...
p.s this declaration waz formed yearz after the Yeshuv started.
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I agree with Igeezy...Whats up with all these palastiniens killing all these little jewish children nowadays? I mean I cant wake up without hearing about another bombing in Israel etc...
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i know that Jews lived there before the Palestinians a long time ago, and then the Palestinians controlled the area for the last couple centuries before the Holocaust and Jews needing a state of their own (which I think was a good thing because the Jewish people of the world needed and should have a place to call home).......but if that is the case......then the Native Americans should be allowed to take as much land in the United States as they want and call it their own......because they were here first and americans have only been here for the last couple centuries......
and what sccit said.....I agree....I never said Palestinians were doing any good by killing Israelis......the terrorists are just as fuckin retarded as the Israeli army
too many people die in that region everyday.....thas why i said earlier that i hope peace will come about them soon
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could everyone please read my post on PAGE 2 of the thread thats named BOARD DISCUSSION: IS U.S. JUSTIFIED IN ATTACKING......
if u read that you'll see how fucced up the Israeli army is along with its government......i know the Palestinian suicide bombers are even more retarded......but we know that because we always get to see that on TV.....every time Israelis get killed its on TV right away......but as you can tell from reading the article there are many things going the other way that we DONT GET TO SEE
i'm not making this a jewish vs. muslim thing....at least i'm not trying to.....i got nothing against jews....as a matter of fact i have more jewish friends than i do muslim ones......it is something between the Israeli government which can be wrong at times and the retarded suicide bombers whohave been brainwashed by that muthaphucca arafat
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those settlements are so fuckin illegal man!
think about it
the israeli govt has been sending in thousands of jews in to arab east jerusalem, so that slowly palestinians lose control of their land
thats in essence ethnic relocation which is one of the characteristics of ethnic cleansing
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the corrupt ass media pisses me off
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the corrupt ass media pisses me off
thats cuz most media conglomerates, are owned by jews or right wing americans with financial connections to Israel
the Jewish lobby in Washington is imcomprehensibly huge!
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u know everyone says that U.S. is the most powerful....but theoretically it isnt........Israel is........cuz Israel got the U.S. on check....U.S. dont wanna fucc up its relations wit Israel cuz Israelis (jews) got so much fuccin money invested in the U.S.....we fucc wit Israel....our economy fucced
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well bassicly the jews run the US not the americans, so no matter what israel does their never gonna stop suporting them, the jews have so much power right now, and wtf? have you seen the numbers? in the past year 1300 palestinians have been killed and 300 israelis, now you tell me thats even, and what soilders beat palestinians for fun and probably shoot a few if they get bored around there,lol, naw probably not but anyways, what about that soilder that shot a kid last year? now dont tell me palestinians are the ones doin all the killing
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yo i thought u was a white dude infinite
why the fucc u fools talkin about religion this isnt WEST COAST RELIGION BOARD, or church or should i say CHUUUUUCH
man there are alot of gay peeps on here
Shut the fuck up..
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man this is some fuckin bullshit changin around my words man, if yall like islam so much start an islam forum muthafuckaz. this is west coast shit forum
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man this is some fuckin bullshit changin around my words man, if yall like islam so much start an islam forum muthafuckaz. this is west coast shit forum
DMD 4 MODERATOR!
if u notice when u click on "Anything Goes" u enter some place where u can post about um ANYTHING!
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aiight good post homie i feel ya its squashed
be a man 2 and squash it also
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aiight good post homie i feel ya its squashed
be a man 2 and squash it also
lol squash what beef? But there whatever, beef squashed
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well bassicly the jews run the US not the americans, so no matter what israel does their never gonna stop suporting them, the jews have so much power right now, and wtf? have you seen the numbers? in the past year 1300 palestinians have been killed and 300 israelis, now you tell me thats even, and what soilders beat palestinians for fun and probably shoot a few if they get bored around there,lol, naw probably not but anyways, what about that soilder that shot a kid last year? now dont tell me palestinians are the ones doin all the killing
OH MY GOD....i din"t expect such a NAZI post in this century....no diss...but did you see what you waz typing..."jewz run tha u.s and not tha americanz"....and you talkin about right wing?...man...this iz tha most w.a.s.p shit i heared\read in tha last year....as for tha numbaz you brought....do you think thingz iz all even in a war...?...
first of all there iz many terrroristic org. peepz in tha authority.....not a suprise in a terrorism suportin authority like tha palestinian authority....and peepz that just r payed(if they payed they do it...cauze there iz lotsa poor peepz in tha authority...aks arafat about tha support money datz lieing on hiz bank acound) to subatage some ish might be considered terroristz....i sware to anyone who will ever spitt this statement...Israel hAZ no intention nor tha will to hurt inocent people (unlike the authority)...if tragic mistakes happend and incoent people die...it"z very sad....but what esle do you expect in a war....tha terorristz comin into israel hurt many mo inocent poeple....we got every coupla dayz or so reportz about babyz loosin their lives....
now mo about that shit....about israel being tha most powerfull....damn this iz a very......very ignorent statement...
do you think that tha most powerfull country (hmmm...USA)
would fuck for such a long time wit some terorristz desturbing it"z peace....look at what tha statez did to afganistan...yall gotta abe kidden".
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geezy answer this
if Israel had the right to take back the land they lived in thousands of years ago but Palestinians were settled in the region at the time of Israeli takeover then should the U.S. have to give the Native Americans all the land they demand ?
never gonna happen is it ?
why does everything only go one way?
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OH MY GOD....i din"t expect such a NAZI post in this century....no diss...but did you see what you waz typing..."jewz run tha u.s and not tha americanz"....and you talkin about right wing?...man...this iz tha most w.a.s.p shit i heared\read in tha last year....as for tha numbaz you brought....do you think thingz iz all even in a war...?...
first of all there iz many terrroristic org. peepz in tha authority.....not a suprise in a terrorism suportin authority like tha palestinian authority....and peepz that just r payed(if they payed they do it...cauze there iz lotsa poor peepz in tha authority...aks arafat about tha support money datz lieing on hiz bank acound) to subatage some ish might be considered terroristz....i sware to anyone who will ever spitt this statement...Israel hAZ no intention nor tha will to hurt inocent people (unlike the authority)...if tragic mistakes happend and incoent people die...it"z very sad....but what esle do you expect in a war....tha terorristz comin into israel hurt many mo inocent poeple....we got every coupla dayz or so reportz about babyz loosin their lives....
now mo about that shit....about israel being tha most powerfull....damn this iz a very......very ignorent statement...
do you think that tha most powerfull country (hmmm...USA)
would fuck for such a long time wit some terorristz desturbing it"z peace....look at what tha statez did to afganistan...yall gotta abe kidden".
youre the same guy who told me that if youre against the Israeli govt, youre a nazi, cut that shit out homes, Jews run the american govt, thats no opinion,
and about how israelis not targeting civilians'
how do u explain lil kids gettin capped in the head execution style, that shit was caught on French camera, how do u explain, homes being demolished?
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LOL yo geezzy yeah i would be shocked too but ya gotta get the real info about your country and people and not the media bullshit, its sad but true, so whoever speaks the truth nowdays is a nazi?
and yes they would be fuckin around this long and killin em off slowly cause if they just wiped the palestinans out the arab countries and a lot of other countries wouldnt have that shit and WWIII would break out
now please dont even call my shit ignorant, peace
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Khafesho kuni
i dont need your help
;D
i had to get ya back for bending me over in the last post lol
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geezy answer this
if Israel had the right to take back the land they lived in thousands of years ago but Palestinians were settled in the region at the time of Israeli takeover then should the U.S. have to give the Native Americans all the land they demand ?
never gonna happen is it ?
why does everything only go one way?
lol man...there were no palestinianz untill like about 100 yearz ago...THEY EXIST ONLY ON PAPER....tha palestinian declaration anounced dat a palestinian iz anyone who lived in palestine since year so and so...and it waz created many yearz after tha jewish YESHUV started...they were peepz from diffrend tribes and placez that found their common cauze to get tha jewz outa here.
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youre the same guy who told me that if youre against the Israeli govt, youre a nazi, cut that shit out homes, Jews run the american govt, thats no opinion,
and about how israelis not targeting civilians'
how do u explain lil kids gettin capped in the head execution style, that shit was caught on French camera, how do u explain, homes being demolished?
yea i"m the one who told you this...and it"z true....if there waz no Israel all them neo nazi groupz would find much mo support while the so called "anoyin" jews would be still tha reachest and tha most succsesfull....so there would be tha 3"d world war in no time...Isarel waz created basicly to decrease tha number of jews in th world...THIS iz a no doubt arguement.
as for jewz runnin tha statez...this statement iz loughable(no diss)...do you think that if jews would run tha statez there would be a palestinian authority...lol...if this waz true man....there would be no PLO...no Hamaz no FATAH....there would be no arafat....ya know why?...cauze they would be all destroyed...look what statez were doing to afgan after tha twinz...look what happent in vietnam...come on.
do you realy think that tha most powerfull (as you call us) peopele in tha world would let this mothafucka explode in our restaurantz....man you gotta stop readin sience fiction and shit. cut this jewz-Illuminati crap...this iz a no-statment
as for yo french reporterz camera...lol...did you know bout tha camera-supllying program?...palestianz who support all kinda terorristic so called liberation programz get cameraz...and while kidz provoking IL soljhaz wit stones...or some palestinan boy shot by some palestinain(by mistake letz asume) that walkz around hiz city wit illegal weaponz in front of cameraz...filmz tha lil boy...and sayez it iz a boy killed by IL soljhaz...there waz a number of shitz like this proven.
now...if there do happen mistakes and incoent peepz do get killed by IL soljhaz...what do you expect in a war?...tha soljaz gotta check everythang...everythang....and be in full control not to alow terorristz in....at leat tha soljha zdont' do it by intention....our army got a very strict moral code...believe me i know better about this....i"m 18...what meanz...-ARMY man...
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LOL yo geezzy yeah i would be shocked too but ya gotta get the real info about your country and people and not the media bullshit, its sad but true, so whoever speaks the truth nowdays is a nazi?
and yes they would be fuckin around this long and killin em off slowly cause if they just wiped the palestinans out the arab countries and a lot of other countries wouldnt have that shit and WWIII would break out
now please dont even call my shit ignorant, peace
lol..man you don"t speak tha truth...you basicly speak rumorz...read my reply to techniec about tha jewz controlin tha u.s...
believe me that we here inside know much better than any kid who watchez tha newz and thinkz he knowez fuckin everythang....damn we live it man....you see it on T.V.....so plz...don"t teach me...i know what i"M talkin about.
lol...who told you israeliz wipe palestinianz in other arab countryz alow me to remind you that tha one who wiped hell lotsa palestinainz waz tha king of jordan HUSIEN after they took over that whole territory past tha west bank (it belonged to jordan at that time and some of it does now)...we don"t wipe peepz we try to wipe out terroristz that threaten our lives...just like tha statez nowadayz.
and basicly no arab country wantz them on it"Z territory as well thatz where tha Egyptian,Serian (and otherz) support iz comin from not from any islamic brotherhood feelingz....
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Palastiniens just hate jews, they dont care about owning the land etc, I mean looks how SMALL israel is...they probly just hate jews, so even if the Jews give up their SMALL peice of land they will still get heat by fuckin palasteniens...
when do u hear of an israeli going in palastien and bombing clubs for teens, or killing lil 5 year old children that dont understand in this shit?! never!!! but all I hear about in the paper is another fuckin suicide bomber going in busses, clubs, nursery homes, whatever and killing little innocent children...its against the jewish religion to kill, only kill if neccesary and thats when jews kill, when they are being attacked by retarded palasteniens throwing rocks...jews are the good guys in this, I aint gunna be racist, but im sick of hearing about little 5 year old kids getting bombed by terrorist bombers on the news....Its sad, shit like this happens on weekly basis in israel...whatever, i aint gunna argue, its usless...theres too many palestiniens who are gunna defend themselves on this board (way more than jews)...
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as long as we"re on tha topic...yesterday waz comitted another suicide xplosion in NATANIA....i dunno if yall heared it....cauze ya know how tha media treadz IL from outside...
it"z like about 100 injured and 20 died by now(it aint final cauze peepz might die during an operation and shit)....tha fag dressed as a women got into a hotelz loby near tha dinning place and xploded (alow me to remind yall that it waz tha passover evening...and tonz of peepz waz there celebrating)
....one celebration... i"d say. :'(...R.I.P.
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i heard about that last night on the news :'(
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RIP
that was fuckin retarted, i mean, bombing a hotel wont end the occupation.....
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more newz:at this moment i"m listenin to tha newz dat were longered to mo than 2 hourz now....a family iz being held up as hostagez by some terorrist at their own house. 3 people out tha family r already dead....and 1 iz injured. mo shit...damn.
R.I.P once again :'(
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Palastiniens just hate jews, they dont care about owning the land etc, I mean looks how SMALL israel is...they probly just hate jews, so even if the Jews give up their SMALL peice of land they will still get heat by fuckin palasteniens...
when do u hear of an israeli going in palastien and bombing clubs for teens, or killing lil 5 year old children that dont understand in this shit?! never!!! but all I hear about in the paper is another fuckin suicide bomber going in busses, clubs, nursery homes, whatever and killing little innocent children...its against the jewish religion to kill, only kill if neccesary and thats when jews kill, when they are being attacked by retarded palasteniens throwing rocks...jews are the good guys in this, I aint gunna be racist, but im sick of hearing about little 5 year old kids getting bombed by terrorist bombers on the news....Its sad, shit like this happens on weekly basis in israel...whatever, i aint gunna argue, its usless...theres too many palestiniens who are gunna defend themselves on this board (way more than jews)...
a jew from america,
how could possibly understand our side?.....
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more newz:at this moment i"m listenin to tha newz dat were longered to mo than 2 hourz now....a family iz being held up as hostagez by some terorrist at their own house. 3 people out tha family r already dead....and 1 iz injured. mo shit...damn.
R.I.P once again :'(
damn it"z 4 dead people now...tha injured one died....
R.I.P
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damn this is fucked up, bad....R.I.P
-{bLaDe}
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damn it"z 4 dead people now...tha injured one died....
R.I.P
You know there will be reprisals for the bombing, and id lay money on more Palestinian's being killed, will you be crying then? Your all as bad as each other, when are y'all (both Israel + Palestine) gonna realise that the violence gets nobody anywhere, y'all gotta put faith in the political process, look at Northern Ireland for example. Believe me i know.
However it was a horrible attack on innocent civillians, R.I.P to those who died in this callous act. It's time everyone dropped the animosity and worked shit out, this has gone on far too long y'all...
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You know there will be reprisals for the bombing, and id lay money on more Palestinian's being killed, will you be crying then? Your all as bad as each other, when are y'all (both Israel + Palestine) gonna realise that the violence gets nobody anywhere, y'all gotta put faith in the political process, look at Northern Ireland for example. Believe me i know.
However it was a horrible attack on innocent civillians, R.I.P to those who died in this callous act. It's time everyone dropped the animosity and worked shit out, this has gone on far too long y'all...
as for fixing tha shit:
easier said than done....
besides....i"ll say this again ISRAEL haz no intention killin inocent people unlike tha authority and itz terorristz...so there iz no way you can put Israel in tha same moral category wit tha authority.not even near it.
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as for fixing tha shit:
easier said than done....
I understand, theres alot of fanatics, who think by dying and killing innocents, they become heros or martyrs. But honestly, how many innocent Israelis + Palestinians have too die before people realise the violence does nothing but lead to more violence. I dont know what an be done, but cats gotta stop pointing fingers, 5 of my close friends are Pakistani Muslims, and their mosque has voiced concerns over muslim ignorance towards the matter. But as this thread has shown it goes both ways. The violence is sickening.
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IMO nik shouldnt be talkin on this, lol....i mean atleast I geezy comes with facts and reasonable shit...well :-/....anywas i mean nik is comin out and sayin palestinians are the bad guys and jews are the good? what type of shit is that? there are good and bad on both sides. comon yall lets look at this at a different view.....
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I understand, theres alot of fanatics, who think by dying and killing innocents, they become heros or martyrs. But honestly, how many innocent Israelis + Palestinians have too die before people realise the violence does nothing but lead to more violence. I dont know what an be done, but cats gotta stop pointing fingers, 5 of my close friends are Pakistani Muslims, and their mosque has voiced concerns over muslim ignorance towards the matter. But as this thread has shown it goes both ways. The violence is sickening.
first of all i"ll repeat Israel haz no intention in killing inocent citizentz....tha once who get killed by intention r tha ones who want and come to kill.
second of all, tha palestinian authority gained alot of support money over tha yearz from countryz...and where did you think that money went?....waz it used by tha authority headz to build some helpfull or needed institutionz for their people....-i"ll answer...NO....and you can see it by tha poorness tha palestinian people r living in......tha money however iz used to support terorristic organizsionz and support familyz of tha so called shahidz who agree to go and xplode in some public place....some also lay on tha headz bank acountz (tha mathematicz done show that one head can be reacher than tha whole fuckin authority all in all..)
third...if tha so critical world would like to help tha palestinian people(and it includez the muslim countryz....that r basicly humangouslly rich from oil) believe me they would do it....the palestinian people got like a number of millionz people living there....what is just enough to create a nice standart u.s.a style sized city....so it"z basiclly a filthy...filthy political game...to live israel trapped in between terroristz and rival arab countryz(arab countryz that basiclly use tha palestinianz as a weapon against Israel) that threaten our existence....why...cauze neither of"em care....they all care about their assez and only know how to be critical...if tha world would like to stop tha violence they would stop tha desperation of tha people that sign up to terorristic orgz cauze they don"t have shit....israel iz not tha calliber of country to do missionz like that we basiclly r a small dependent country.
p.s tha so critical world iz tha one that should stop pointin dawg.
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there are good and bad on both sides.
I agree with u 100% ..
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third...if tha so critical world would like to help tha palestinian people(and it includez the muslim countryz....that r basicly humangouslly rich from oil) believe me they would do it....the palestinian people got like a number of millionz people living there....what is just enough to create a nice standart u.s.a style sized city....so it"z basiclly a filthy...filthy political game...to live israel trapped in between terroristz and rival arab countryz(arab countryz that basiclly use tha palestinianz as a weapon against Israel) that threaten our existence....why...cauze neither of"em care....they all care about their assez and only know how to be critical...if tha world would like to stop tha violence they would stop tha desperation of tha people that sign up to terorristic orgz cauze they don"t have shit....israel iz not tha calliber of country to do missionz like that we basiclly r a small dependent country.
p.s tha so critical world iz tha one that should stop pointin dawg.
Firstly, you keep saying the israeli government has no intention in killing innocents, yet your government consistently does kill innocents.
And your saying the critical world should stop pointin fingers, if it wasnt for other countries your country would've wiped the Palestinians out by now. The reason the U.S doesnt step in is because of the middle eastern oil, as long as Israel have power, so do they. The UK has no reason to get involved, we got our own shit to do, we cant be dealing with your problems. We WANT to stop the violence, but y'all CAN stop the violence, theres a big difference.
I was staying neutral in this argument, cause of the amount of Muslims here outweighs the Jews but you've got a complex about how innocent your country is. Bullshit homie, Ariel Sharon and Arafat are both guilty of some bullshit, as are Blair and Bush. Im just being real with you now.
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Firstly, you keep saying the israeli government has no intention in killing innocents, yet your government consistently does kill innocents.
And your saying the critical world should stop pointin fingers, if it wasnt for other countries your country would've wiped the Palestinians out by now. The reason the U.S doesnt step in is because of the middle eastern oil, as long as Israel have power, so do they. The UK has no reason to get involved, we got our own shit to do, we cant be dealing with your problems. We WANT to stop the violence, but y'all CAN stop the violence, theres a big difference.
I was staying neutral in this argument, cause of the amount of Muslims here outweighs the Jews but you've got a complex about how innocent your country is. Bullshit homie, Ariel Sharon and Arafat are both guilty of some bullshit, as are Blair and Bush. Im just being real with you now.
man...did you see me saying tha countryz should not get involved?....what i said iz dat instead of shittin on Israel"z so called unadequate actionz(which r not inadequate in fact...)
and that whole "letz stop tha violance " talk....tha world should help them create a finnansial \economycal base.....not send them weaponz like tha other arab countryz do(weird isn"t it.......they can efford large amountz of weaponz...but they can"t create a nice economical base....this just proves my statment about tha arab countryz using tha palestinianz as a weapon against Israel)
first you"re saying dat tha countryz should be invloved....and than you say that it"z our problem and we should handle it.....this iz just how it iz in tha world man.....this hypocracy killz inocent people man....if tha countryz can preach and shit....and activate their political weight to make us do what they want...why won"t they do somethin" themselves.....tha headz of tha countryz know much better than me how they can help....but i"ll tell you this....they CAN(read my previous post again)....tha question iz why haven"t they done anythang yet....(you"re saying tha U.K shouln"t be involved...man tha u.k iz invloved from day one....see "tha british mandat" on palestine).....tha statez helpz us like crazy financially....why can"t it help tha authority tha same way(cauze of tha oil?....so they worry mo about their riches than about human lives?)....you"re wrong ....very wrong saying it"z our buisness....this typa fuedz iz tha ones tha have tha most potensial to create tha third world war....
as for sharon being as guilty as arafat....lol....thatz loughable....tha INTIFADA started be4 ashron waz even a prime minister....back when it started Ehud barak waz tha prime minister and he offered tha biggest...and tha most generous offer to tha palestinianz any ISRAELI LEADr haz ever offered be4...he gave them 97% of tha demand...and arafat still declined it....why?...-go back to one of my previous replyez on tha thread.
AS FOR THIS:
"you keep saying the israeli government has no intention in killing innocents, yet your government consistently does kill innocents."......THIS iz not a contrediction...put a line under tha word "intention" and you"ll see.
when terroristz kill they kill by intention (to kill inocentz) so we"ll be afraid of our own shadow while we live here. and tha palestinian authority supportz them.
i got no complex about tha inocense of my country....what i say iz pure factz man....you can check any of it.
i think you got some kinda complex trying to be liberal and tread wit equallity even while tha sidez r not equall in guilt.
this iz not a fairy tail man....neither a history lesson where you can discuss shit....lives of inocent people depend on it.
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Where did i say the US + UK should get involved? The Us are involved selling you weapons and artillery to "defend" yourselves. I never said the UK shouldnt get involved either, your right we were one of the countries that were first involved, im saying we should'nt pull an America and back Israel in whatever they do.
as for sharon being as guilty as arafat....lol....thatz loughable....tha INTIFADA started be4 ashron waz even a prime minister....back when it started Ehud barak waz tha prime minister and he offered tha biggest...and tha most generous offer to tha palestinianz any ISRAELI LEADr haz ever offered be4...he gave them 97% of tha demand...and arafat still declined it....why?...-
See you cant admit that your government is involved in some shady shit, Ariel Sharon is and extremist, but then you'll just deny that. He's as bad as Arafat.
when terroristz kill they kill by intention (to kill inocentz) so we"ll be afraid of our own shadow while we live here. and tha palestinian authority supportz them.
Tell me, does Palestine have an army? Are they anywhere near as big and as well equipped as yours? One mans terrorist is another mans hero.
And your denying your country kills innocents, you gotta open your eyes, Arafat does support the terrorists, and that isnt right, im not disputing that, but Israel does a gang of wrong shit too, one day you gotta admit that.
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Where did i say the US + UK should get involved? The Us are involved selling you weapons and artillery to "defend" yourselves. I never said the UK shouldnt get involved either, your right we were one of the countries that were first involved, im saying we should'nt pull an America and back Israel in whatever they do.
See you cant admit that your government is involved in some shady shit, Ariel Sharon is and extremist, but then you'll just deny that. He's as bad as Arafat.
Tell me, does Palestine have an army? Are they anywhere near as big and as well equipped as yours? One mans terrorist is another mans hero.
And your denying your country kills innocents, you gotta open your eyes, Arafat does support the terrorists, and that isnt right, im not disputing that, but Israel does a gang of wrong shit too, one day you gotta admit that.
man...no metter what party sharon balongz to, he wazn"t tha prime minister when tha intifada started....it started monthz be4 he came to be tha prime...this iz nothin to argue about...IT"Z A FACT.....i dunno why you argueing about this....get it....tha man din"t have anythang to do wit tha situation untill he got ellected...and by that time tha INDIFAADA waz already in full spead...and prolly waz one of tha reasonz he....and especially he got ellected....
as for tha authority having an ARMY...well that"z all they have... they got tha TANZIM....and they got tonz of illegal weaponry support from tha other arab countryz(remeber KARIN A...FROM IRAN)...i already said this(they can suplly weapon to tha palestinianz but theysupposebly can"t help them economicly which proves my statment about them using the palastinienz as a weapon against israel)...so now you want a terrorism supportin authority to have an army that iz as organized as ourz(a country that does not support terrorism)?...you gotta be kidden...it"z like wishing tha taliban waz mo organized than it iz....
my government ain"t involved in shit that contredictz our armyz moral codez....of course mistakes do happen...but i"ve already told you we got no intention to hurt inocent people....just like tha statez in afgan.
we"re not terroristz...i can"t blieve yall peepz from outside can be that blind...stop listenin to rumourz and get some real information....there iz nothin in common between tha way of ISRAEL and arafatz terroristic way....we have no interest fighting them....they r tha ones that make us try and protect ourselves....read my previous post again...you seem to be ignoring/denieing some of tha thingz i"ve said.
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Man, i aint arguing im debating, it's all gravy, we just got different views, i fully accept what you say, but your gonna have a different view as you live in Israel and your affected daily by whats happening.
I dont think Sharon is to blame for the ongoing troubles, but he is playing a large part in prolonging them, as is Arafat. Of course other muslim nations are going to give weapons to Palestine, theres so many shady nations that take the troubles to heart, again thats one of the factors prolonging the drama.
I cant debate this for much longer cause i really dont feel as strongly about it as you, and i quite simply dont have the facts on the matter, im just giving an opinion, and a view of someone from a neutral stand point.
Aight, Peace.
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i except pointz of view and shit....i just like bringen" the factz and sometimes i might get overagresive...but it"z all good. i know ya ain"t a hypocritical politition man :)....only out of yo wordz of support and caring towarz tha weak people that get hurt in this shit you say... i can see it...so i got respect for you....not many uninvolved peepz give a real fuck.lol
this iz a very paradoxical situation while normally in fuedz between countryz an outsider nutral opinion might help...on this one it increasez tha confusment and tha rumorz towardz tha side that doesn"t deserve any of it plus to it"z phisycal problemz....here whaz needed iz an outsider practical help to tha weak layerz of tha palestinian sitizentz....this will decrease tha desperation....but whaz bad iz dat no country will take it as a mission ...and stick to it...untill it"z solved....all kinda dirty political games iz involved in it....too many of them.
peace.
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Word, props for keeping it civil homie, much respect.
Peace
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Word, props for keeping it civil homie, much respect.
Peace
*runs into thread*
Fuck keeping it "civil"!!!
*throws a punch at I Geezy*
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;D ;D ;D
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*runs into thread*
Fuck keeping it "civil"!!!
*throws a punch at I Geezy*
lol...you see what i"m talking about....?...
btw mo bad newz..:about half an hour ago there waz another xplosion in TEL AVIV....in a cofie house....apereantlly it waz comitted by a FATAH member...what meanz....arafatz personal people...
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Israel constantly flaunts international law, it just invaded the palestinian territories, and attack Arafats own compound!
Theyre ignoring UN resolutions....
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Israel constantly flaunts international law, it just invaded the palestinian territories, and attack Arafats own compound!
Theyre ignoring UN resolutions....
what did you expect us to do?...smile and sit quietlly after mo terroristic atacz?... after arfat already promissed to stop them?....izn"t terrorism an ignoring of UN resolutionz....?
we protecting our-selvez.....you seem to ignore all this terroristic bullshit dat"z going on here non stop (last four dayz...there wazn"t one day without an xplosion).
FUCK Arafat he should be fuckin banned.....fuckin terrorism suporter.....
p.s man what do you mean "invaded"?...don"t terorristz invade...and not just for tha sake of operational reasonz....but to hurt inocent siticentz....you just need to look at tha situation objectivley man...i know dat you"re muslim and everythang....but terrorism and terrorism supportaz iz tha worst feature of Islam...to prove you r a true muslim you don"t need to support them FAGZ...support peace man..
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For fucks sake the terrorists do what they do cause they have been repressed and treated like shit for years
If Sharon really wanted peace he's be the bigger man and start the peace campaign rolling
But he won't cause he's the real terrorist
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For fucks sake the terrorists do what they do cause they have been repressed and treated like shit for years
If Sharon really wanted peace he's be the bigger man and start the peace campaign rolling
But he won't cause he's the real terrorist
man don"t get mad but dat"z bullshit...tha terroristz killing themselves while xploding shit doing it cauze they were brain washed since age 6 by their xploiting, terrorism supporting authority(look at any palestinian text book...lol...hamas iz responsable for tha education)...they believe they"ll get 70 somethin" virginz after when they go to heaven...repressed?....lol...king husein killed 10,000 palestinianz at one time...and yall bitch on us...tha only reason they frontin iz cauze they want us out....they"ve already had many chansez....learn tha modern history....remeber the "Oslo" agreementz?....remeber "camp david" they were offered tha largest offer any israeli leader ever offered?...so don"t talk that represion B.S....if ya knew about this you would know why they frontin"....
now as for sharon...get of hiz dick...all he does after he got ellected iz trying to protect our country from terroristz...so cut tha crap...arafat iz tha real and tha biggest terrorist he"z been doing it for yearz...now he just got support of filthy political interessed sidez....(BTW you might wanna learn somethin, tha INTIFAADA waz started not long after camp david and arafatz decline....it waz monthz before sharon got ellected)
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you are a sick motherfucker bry guy.
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you are a sick motherfucker bry guy.
yeah but you have no choice to prop him for the MC Ren quote.
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lol @ my peaceful wack ass posting style in my debut days
lol @ i geezy and nik not learning a single thing in 5 yrs
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lol @ my peaceful wack ass posting style in my debut days
lol @ i geezy and nik not learning a single thing in 5 yrs
lol