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Title: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: UCC on May 10, 2008, 06:27:24 AM
Don't know if this has been posted already, but just read this over at mtv.com
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1587264/20080509/snoop_dogg.jhtml


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Snoop's next LP is "temporarily" called Malice in Wonderland and was inspired by a session he had with composer Lalo Schifrin.

"He conducted some music for me that was so sinister, so evil, mean and dark," Snoop described. "I just wanted to make a record like that. That's just the way I feel."


Dope that he's worked with Lalo Schifrin - dude is one of the most legendary and dopest composers of all time
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: D-Stress on May 10, 2008, 06:32:44 AM
 ???
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Post by: Elano on May 10, 2008, 06:37:11 AM
pretty interesting  8)
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Post by: Lunatic on May 10, 2008, 07:22:07 AM
maybe this means this one'll be a dark album..
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Post by: Dre-Day on May 10, 2008, 07:36:43 AM
Don't know if this has been posted already, but just read this over at mtv.com
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1587264/20080509/snoop_dogg.jhtml


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Snoop's next LP is "temporarily" called Malice in Wonderland and was inspired by a session he had with composer Lalo Schifrin.

"He conducted some music for me that was so sinister, so evil, mean and dark," Snoop described. "I just wanted to make a record like that. That's just the way I feel."


Dope that he's worked with Lalo Schifrin - dude is one of the most legendary and dopest composers of all time

would be great if he sticks with the plan to make a dark album.

but since the news is coming from snoop dogg and his last album has only been out for 2 months, i don't expect snoop to make a concept album.

he might prove me wrong next year though :laugh:

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2008, 08:23:23 AM
does this nigga really need to make another LP?

unless hes gonna put out some OG WESTCOAST GANGSTA sheet i don't wanna hear it.
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Post by: Booz on May 10, 2008, 09:25:14 AM
Wouldn't be a surprise even if it would become a Heavy Metal Album...it's snoop after all!
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Post by: KURUPTION-81 on May 10, 2008, 09:41:10 AM
aint gonna happen this is like when he said all of ego trippin would be produced by him.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Johnny B on May 10, 2008, 10:04:51 AM
does this nigga really need to make another LP?

unless hes gonna put out some OG WESTCOAST GANGSTA sheet i don't wanna hear it.

co-sign..
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: snopafly on May 10, 2008, 10:18:09 AM
 >:( he is taking that ego trippin to far, i dont want a country album from snoop .. He should stay true to his fans and stop being corny " willie is a soldier" johny cash is gangsta..... please stay true to your game.....
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Brutus on May 10, 2008, 10:21:51 AM
aint gonna happen this is like when he said all of ego trippin would be produced by him.

he never said that
he said no features

legend of jimmy bones hood of horrors were dope
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Brutus on May 10, 2008, 10:24:20 AM
>:( he is taking that ego trippin to far, i dont want a country album from snoop .. He should stay true to his fans and stop being corny " willie is a soldier" johny cash is gangsta..... please stay true to your game.....

you and johny 1:1 he'll take your life
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Post by: funkkid on May 10, 2008, 10:36:11 AM
where the fuck is the g shit...i hate ego trippin' that damn near made me stop being a fan..i need some gangsta shit from snoop
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Post by: Elano on May 10, 2008, 10:37:37 AM
maybe this means this one'll be a dark album..

muggs MUST be on it  8)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: snopafly on May 10, 2008, 10:43:37 AM
where the fuck is the g shit...i hate ego trippin' that damn near made me stop being a fan..i need some gangsta shit from snoop

yeah , i have ego trippin and i like it. But i dont think he should take it to far.. realy who wanna hear snoop do a country album or a heavy metal album and whatever .. the fans basicly only wanna hear him rap, so he should stick with it..
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Klue on May 10, 2008, 11:32:39 AM
some dark rap which sound like NOLA rap, murder inc and shit would be dope
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: COMPTONRIDA1 on May 10, 2008, 12:28:16 PM
HE BETTA DO SOMETHING CUZ HIS MUSIC AND CREDIBILITY IS AT STAKE..WELL MAYBE HE'S A FIGHT PROMOTER NOW...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: h2k4 on May 10, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
where the fuck is the g shit...i hate ego trippin' that damn near made me stop being a fan..i need some gangsta shit from snoop

True but sadly I doubt we'll ever get that again.
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Post by: D~Nice on May 10, 2008, 12:54:09 PM
maybe this means this one'll be a dark album..

muggs MUST be on it  8)

Now ya talking. A Muggs/Snoop collabo would be sick. Muggs can make some Gangsta shit too but with his own twist to it.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: jai0489 on May 10, 2008, 01:01:35 PM
EGO TRIPPIN' WAS COOL BUT YEAH I WANT SOME OF THE DOGGYSTYLE SHIT GET DRE CUBE GAME MALONE JAY ROCK 50 PAPOOSE AKON MACK 10 WC R. KELLY DJ QUIK PROBLEM TERRACE MARTIN KURUPT DAZ N SUGA FREE
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: D-Stress on May 10, 2008, 03:53:23 PM
unless hes gonna put out some OG WESTCOAST GANGSTA sheet i don't wanna hear it.
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Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Booz on May 10, 2008, 04:20:26 PM
where the fuck is the g shit...i hate ego trippin' that damn near made me stop being a fan..i need some gangsta shit from snoop

True but sadly I doubt we'll ever get that again.
Unless Detox get's released in our lifetime...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Matty on May 10, 2008, 06:02:14 PM
snoop - welcome to the hood

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=2B46EC6B70F9EF86

serious trunk rattler! i dunno who produced this but the bass is ridicolous :0
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Matty on May 10, 2008, 06:07:21 PM
yeah thats right. i remember bumping this in the car a whole lot. major vibrations :0
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Matty on May 10, 2008, 06:29:38 PM
yeah.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 10, 2008, 07:33:24 PM
snoop's "dark" songs


pump pump
murder was the case (both versions)
serial killa
lil ghetto boy (the remix is GANGSTAD OUT but the chronic version is fine as well)
the legend of jimmy bones  (i think thats what it was called)
2 of amerikaz most wanted
hollywood bank robbery

sheet like this
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Matty on May 10, 2008, 08:08:20 PM
snoops got a lot of songs with a dark/eerie kinda vibe to them. 'round here' is a goodie - creepy keys, bells and some low low bass...
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Post by: Funkstradamus on May 10, 2008, 08:34:39 PM
if Snoop is gonna do a whole concept album he need to call Battlecat....do a whole album with just Cat on tha beats and Snoop on the rhymes....they could call it "The Adventures of Cat & Dogg" or some shit...
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: h2k4 on May 10, 2008, 08:49:46 PM
where the fuck is the g shit...i hate ego trippin' that damn near made me stop being a fan..i need some gangsta shit from snoop

True but sadly I doubt we'll ever get that again.
Unless Detox get's released in our lifetime...

Haha, yeah but it wont be an entire Snoop Dogg album.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Dre-Day on May 10, 2008, 11:16:34 PM

would be great if he sticks with the plan to make a dark album.
but since the news is coming from snoop dogg and his last album has only been out for 2 months,
i don't expect snoop to make a concept album.
he might prove me wrong next year though :laugh:

If he lets Lalo Schifrin produce the whole think,with maybe Fred Wreck doing the beats....
This could work.


 ;)


besides, let's not forget about Geffen.

on a side note, it seems very likely that Terrace Martin is going to be involved with the next album ; i'm sure he can produce some great dark shit  8)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Si-Chiggedy on May 11, 2008, 05:33:45 AM
unless hes gonna put out some OG WESTCOAST GANGSTA sheet i don't wanna hear it.
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go on and cry
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: UCC on May 11, 2008, 05:59:35 AM
In case y'all mofos don't know who Lalo Schifrin is, here is some of the stuff he wrote and conducted, peep game -


Theme from Enter The Dragon -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FG3nMJJGho
(dope ass synth line for the main melody!)


Theme from Mission Impossible -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJl8J1nvx8s&feature=related
(y'all know that shit)


Theme from Bullitt -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP42mm-qkl4&feature=related
(dark and funky!)


Theme from Dirty Harry -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbHl6hStvk
(upbeat, some dope-ass synths in there and percussion)


Theme from Magnum Force -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFdmoX5zSk&feature=related
(starts out just aight, then the vocal melody shit comes in and it's like, oh whut!)


Portishead track that samples Lalo Schifrin -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTT2l6kfueo&feature=related
(dark shit, strings, eerie atmosphere - Heltah Skeltah of Boot Camp Clik also sampled that shit)


Imagine snoop rapping over that last beat with harder drums and shit!


Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: hiphophead on May 11, 2008, 07:27:39 AM
I think this is great news if Snoop is really conisidering this, but I am a little skeptical about it. Snoop has made similar promises in the past about upcoming albums "Tha Doggfather" was supposed to be an all dark "mafioso style" album and as recently as last year "Ego Trippin" an all Snoop album with no guests
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: UCC on May 11, 2008, 08:16:16 AM
"Tha Doggfather" was supposed to be an all dark "mafioso style" album

Yeah, I was mad disappointed with him not going with that idea, I'm hoping at least a track with Schifrin will get that vibe
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Chad Vader on May 11, 2008, 08:48:36 AM
Dope that he's worked with Lalo Schifrin - dude is one of the most legendary and dopest composers of all time


^^^^^ YEP,YEP!!! ^^^^
Let him produce the whole shit!!!!!


maybe this means this one'll be a dark album..

RBX could write him some bad ass Horror-core shit....  :P
A horror-core album by Snoop could be interesting  ;)

would be great if he sticks with the plan to make a dark album.
but since the news is coming from snoop dogg and his last album has only been out for 2 months,
i don't expect snoop to make a concept album.
he might prove me wrong next year though :laugh:

If he lets Lalo Schifrin produce the whole think,with maybe Fred Wreck doing the beats....
This could work.

legend of jimmy bones hood of horrors were dope

^^^^Yep,someone up the Snoop track from Hood Of Horrors,that shit was cold....  ;) ^^^


snoop - welcome to the hood
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=2B46EC6B70F9EF86
serious trunk rattler! i dunno who produced this but the bass is ridicolous :0

Thanx  ;)
I might be wrong,but I seem to remember that it was Buckshot....
Anyway,shit is fire  ;)


yeah thats right.
I remember bumping this in the car a whole lot. major vibrations :0

About Buckshot,you mean?  ;)


yeah.

 ;) ;) ;) ;)


snoop's "dark" songs

murder was the case (both versions)
serial killa
the legend of jimmy bones  (i think thats what it was called)


^^^^ I was thinking more along those tracks. ^^^
It would be dope if it had some kind of story line (horror theme),
and Lalo Schifrin could compose and produce it,while maybe another cat suplied the beats.
I believe a cat like Lalo Schifrin could bring some dope shit out of Snoop.


snoops got a lot of songs with a dark/eerie kinda vibe to them. 'round here' is a goodie - creepy keys, bells and some low low bass...

sure itīs cool.... ;)
maybe I should express myself clearer  :P ;)
I was thinking about a more theatrical sound like the Welcome To The Hood joint....
That shit sounds like a "movie"....
Donīt get me wrong I love his dark "gangster" tracks,
but maybe he can get away with his cartoonish lyrics if itīs a "horror - story - concept" album.  :P ;)


if Snoop is gonna do a whole concept album he need to call Battlecat....
do a whole album with just Cat on tha beats and Snoop on the rhymes....
they could call it "The Adventures of Cat & Dogg" or some shit...

That could be dope album  ;) ;)
But clearly Snoop want to venture out and try new shit;  ;)
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Snoop has definitely earned his stripes in hip-hop.
That's why he can experiment with other genres as he did on Ego Trippin'.
"I think I have more room than ever to do as I please," Snoop said.
"I've made so many records that were true to hip-hop, true to Snoop Dogg and true to the West Coast and gangsta rap in genre.
Now it's time for me to make records that feel good to me and [to] venture out.
source;
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1587264/20080509/snoop_dogg.jhtml

So some sort of (horror) musical could be it?





In case y'all mofos don't know who Lalo Schifrin is;


Lalo Schifrin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lalo_Schifrin
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Lalo Schifrin (born June 21, 1932) is an Argentine-American pianist and composer.
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Biography

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Early life & education

Schifrin was born Boris Claudio Schifrin in Buenos Aires of Jewish heritage. His father, Luis Schifrin, led the second violin section of the orchestra at the Teatro Colón for three decades. At the age of six, Schifrin began a six-year course of study on piano with Enrique Barenboim, the father of the pianist and conductor Daniel Barenboim. At age 16, Schifrin began studying piano with the Russian expatriate Andreas Karalis, former head of the Kiev Conservatory, and harmony with Argentine composer Juan-Carlos Paz. During this time, Schifrin also became interested in jazz.

Although Schifrin studied sociology and law at the University of Buenos Aires, it was music that captured his attention. At age 20, he successfully applied for a scholarship to the Paris Conservatoire. While there, he attended Olivier Messiaen's classes and formally studied with Charles Koechlin, a disciple of Maurice Ravel. At night he played jazz in the Paris clubs. In 1955, Schifrin played piano with Astor Piazzolla and represented his country at the International Jazz Festival in Paris.

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Career

After returning home to Argentina, Schifrin formed a jazz orchestra, a 16-piece band that became part of a popular weekly variety show on Buenos Aires TV. Schifrin also began accepting other film, television and radio assignments. In 1956, Schifrin met Dizzy Gillespie and offered to write an extended work for Gillespie's big band. Schifrin completed the work, Gillespiana, in 1958. Later that year Schifrin began working as an arranger for Xavier Cugat's popular dance orchestra.

While in New York in 1960, Schifrin again met Gillespie, who had by this time disbanded his big band for financial reasons. Gillespie invited Schifrin to fill the vacant piano chair in his quintet. Schifrin immediately accepted and moved to New York City. In 1963, MGM, which had Schifrin under contract, offered the composer his first Hollywood film assignment with the African adventure, Rhino!. Schifrin moved to Hollywood late that year.

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Scores

To date, he has written more than 100 scores for films, television and video games. Among the classic scores are The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, Mannix, The Fox, Cool Hand Luke, Bullitt, Enter the Dragon, THX 1138, The Four Musketeers, Dirty Harry, The Big Brawl, The Cincinnati Kid, T.H.E. Cat, The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (Schifrin wrote music for two episodes of the television series, although the main theme was composed by Jerry Goldsmith),[1] Voyage of the Damned, Rollercoaster, The Amityville Horror and The Osterman Weekend.

One of Schifrin's most recognizable and enduring compositions is the theme music for the long-running TV series Mission: Impossible. It is a famously distinctive tune written in an unusual 5/4 time signature.

Recent film scores include Rush Hour, Rush Hour 2, Rush Hour 3, Bringing Down the House, The Bridge of San Luis Rey, After the Sunset, and Abominable. He also wrote the songs for Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow. In the 1999 film Tango, Schifrin returned to the tango music he had grown familiar with while working as Astor Piazzolla's pianist in the mid-1950s. He brought traditional tango songs to the film as well as introducing compositions of his own in which tango is fused with jazz elements.[2]

In 1970, he composed the Paramount Television (which by then had taken over production of Mission: Impossible) logo jingle "Color I.D." It was an 8-note jingle featuring horns, woodwinds and timpani. This music would have a long run in Paramount's TV production logos through 1987.

Schifrin's "Tar Sequence" from his Cool Hand Luke score (also written in 5/4) was the longtime theme for the Eyewitness News broadcasts on New York station WABC-TV and other ABC affiliates, as well as National Nine News in Australia. CBS Television used part of the theme of his St. Ives soundtrack for its golf broadcasts in the 1970s and early 1980s.

Schifrin's working score for 1973's The Exorcist was rejected by the film's director William Friedkin. Schifrin had written six minutes of difficult and heavy music for the initial film trailer but audiences were reportedly too scared by the combination of sights and sounds. Warner Bros. executives told Friedkin to instruct Schifrin to tone it down with softer music, but Friedkin did not relay the message. Schifrin's final score was thrown out into the parking lot. Schifrin reported in an interview that working with Friedkin was the one of the most unpleasant experiences in his life.[3]

To date, Lalo Schifrin has won four Grammy Awards (with twenty-one nominations), one Cable ACE Award, and received six Oscar nominations, and has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

He is also widely sampled in hip-hop and trip-hop songs, see Heltah Skeltah's Prowl or Portishead's Sour Times. Both songs sample Schifrin's "Danube Incident", one of many themes he composed for specific episodes of the Mission: Impossible TV series.

Schifrin made a cameo appearance in Red Dragon (2002) as an orchestra conductor.


In case y'all mofos don't know who Lalo Schifrin is
here is some of the stuff he wrote and conducted, peep game -
Theme from Enter The Dragon -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FG3nMJJGho
(dope ass synth line for the main melody!)
Theme from Mission Impossible -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJl8J1nvx8s&feature=related
(y'all know that shit)
Theme from Bullitt -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP42mm-qkl4&feature=related
(dark and funky!)
Theme from Dirty Harry -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbHl6hStvk
(upbeat, some dope-ass synths in there and percussion)
Theme from Magnum Force -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFdmoX5zSk&feature=related
(starts out just aight, then the vocal melody shit comes in and it's like, oh whut!)
Portishead track that samples Lalo Schifrin -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTT2l6kfueo&feature=related
(dark shit, strings, eerie atmosphere - Heltah Skeltah of Boot Camp Clik also sampled that shit)
Imagine snoop rapping over that last beat with harder drums and shit!




^^^^^ is it clearer now? ^^^^
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: D-Reborn on May 11, 2008, 10:42:10 AM
snoop is done, each of his recent albums is more shitty then the previous one, no matter how many new things he try, itll be bullshit.

 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: D~Nice on May 11, 2008, 10:53:29 AM
This composer, and maybe a couple producers that could fit that style. Dre, Fred and Muggs. Man I would just cop the instrumental off that to see what it would sound like.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: D~Nice on May 11, 2008, 06:39:46 PM
This composer, and maybe a couple producers that could fit that style.
Dre, Fred and Muggs.
Man I would just cop the instrumental off that to see what it would sound like.

This dude only needs beats,off course it would benifit if it was a experienced beat maker/producer....
so they could work together on such a project.
I like to point out that this is a project that any rapper for that matter should try out.
Itīs not limited to Snoop  ;) ;)


Most definitely. Test the creative boundaries of music. I doubt it will fall into place like that but maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Mackin on May 11, 2008, 07:01:38 PM
The  desire to experiment is there!

The need to pigeon hole oneself to a box is so paramount, what is holding these Artist from doing this, is fans, that only want a certain style for the rapper anything other than that is considered a 'sell Out'..Shame really...

I personally want to see Snoop try new arenas, challenge himself and seek new musical horizon,if it can all fall into place and he puts out with an Album,i think these other rappers rather than diss, should take note and follow suit..

Alas if only the fans would let them... :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2008, 10:05:03 AM
what about Brotha Lynch Hung?

they collabored not too long ago, and Brotha Lynch Hung makes dark music so?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2008, 10:09:11 AM
what about Brotha Lynch Hung?

they collabored not too long ago, and Brotha Lynch Hung makes dark music so?

you mean that Lynch should write Snoopīs lyrics for a project like this?


he could write and produce right?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Muhfukka on June 11, 2008, 10:15:08 AM
you think snoop is going to go from his e! show and ego trippin to a horrorcore album?
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2008, 10:19:38 AM
you think snoop is going to go from his e! show and ego trippin to a horrorcore album?

well i'm very skeptical, so i don't think so (as you can read in my previous posts on page 1).

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Dre-Day on June 11, 2008, 10:36:00 AM
what about Brotha Lynch Hung?

they collabored not too long ago, and Brotha Lynch Hung makes dark music so?

you mean that Lynch should write Snoopīs lyrics for a project like this?


he could write and produce right?


I would be down for it,but is Snoop?  :P

that's a good question.

one thing's for sure, he'll let some other artists write for him.

Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: D~Nice on June 11, 2008, 10:51:27 AM
RBX would be a good contributor for a album with that kind of vibe also. I am a little bit biased when it comes to Muggs but I think this kind of project is right up his alley beat wise. Picture Snoop over some Black Sunday beats.
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: K-9 on June 11, 2008, 11:44:08 AM
SPIDER LOCS HARDCORE SONGS > SNOOPS DOGG ALICE IN WONDERLAND
Title: Re: Snoop Dogg's next LP?
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on June 11, 2008, 01:09:54 PM
please not... I still need to recover from his last album (not that it was pure garbage, but...)