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Elements => Tha Studio => Topic started by: +[=PHI@SK0=]+ on August 01, 2002, 11:33:50 AM
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Okay, now I made this beat the other day and sccit is complaining that it sounds exaclty like the ROCKY BALBOA THEME (which I've never heard or even seen the movie)... I think that it has the same rhythm, but definatly not the same notes and doesn't sound the same. If anyone knows anything about music and law, they would know that this could not hold up a case in court. What do you guys think. Sccit gives his opinion in this little audio portion...
LISTEN: http://artists.hubba.com/phiasko/albums/3092/sccitibovsphiasko/play.m3u
DOWNLOAD: http://artists.hubba.com/phiasko/albums/3092/sccitibovsphiasko/download.mp3
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Honestly...how can u say that these 2 dont sound alike? The tune is exactly the same...If you tell me this couldn't make a case in court than i feel bad for your ears...
Not only that, I think the actual Rocky Balboa Theme (Not the one I-Bo remade) sound's even more alike Phiaskos beat...PeAcE
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hello everybody :)
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holy shit......sccits right :o
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Well, Ibo doesnt wanna state his opinion cuz he thinks were beefing and he doesnt wanna take sides or whatever (same reason he didnt vote in the auiod battle between us)...But here's a convo I had with him...
DEEEEzzzz NuTz: well, what do u think? does that rocky balboa beat sound like phiaskos?
IBO213: I CANT DENY IT
DEEEEzzzz NuTz: deny it?
IBO213: *i cant deny it
DEEEEzzzz NuTz: deny what?
IBO213: that it sounds alike
DEEEEzzzz NuTz: could it make a case in court?
IBO213: yes it could
^^^Ibo knows a lot about music as well, so keep that in mind...PeAcE
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Werd up, IT does sound like it alot. Peace
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well wut about I-Bo's... wut, that wouldn't make a case in court?
And it wouldn't make a case in court because theyre not the same notes... it's only the same rhythm... if you don't know what the difference is, then sorry. But I had not even heard this song before I made it, so i was not trying to mimic the rhythm nor the sound. Alot of songs have the same rhythm, theres only so many, wut should all they go to court???
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+ link=board=thalab;num=1028237631;start=0#6 date=08/01/02 at 17:31:15]well wut about I-Bo's... wut, that wouldn't make a case in court?
And it wouldn't make a case in court because theyre not the same notes... it's only the same rhythm... if you don't know what the difference is, then sorry. But I had not even heard this song before I made it, so i was not trying to mimic the rhythm nor the sound. Alot of songs have the same rhythm, theres only so many, wut should all they go to court???
im positive that it would make sense in court
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they sound alike but i don't think it's a copy...i believe phiasko...it doesn't do all the other shit like the rocky theme...just those couple notes...whatever though, peace.
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Well... here's my two cents....
they both have the same rhythm... but at different tempos and different instruments... they sound different to the ear, but they do have the same tune... however I think it wouldn't work in court... cause they are two different pieces and are different enough
-Big BpG
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they sound alike but i don't think it's a copy...i believe phiasko...it doesn't do all the other shit like the rocky theme...just those couple notes...whatever though, peace.
im not saying that i think that he copied.... i dont even know if he heard my beat before (he says no, but NIK says yes)...
but im my beat was copyrighted, he would faceproblems if he released that beat... sampling is not only note by note, its also about structure... well i care less.. its just a beat
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im not saying that i think that he copied.... i dont even know if he heard my beat before (he says no, but NIK says yes)...
but im my beat was copyrighted, he would faceproblems if he released that beat... sampling is not only note by note, its also about structure... well i care less.. its just a beat
Ibo- yes he has heard your's I let this bitch hear it over the phone, so he has.
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Okay... first of all.... the rhythms aren't exact, I went and listened to them closley, and they're off by one count, I can recreate I-Bo's and show you the difference if you want to make it a hastle for me. Second of all, they're not the same tempo, and their not the same instruments, and they're definatly not the same notes. And it definatly would not make a case in court...I'll get a proffesional opinion on it and then post it... you guys dont know what your talking about tho. no worries tho, I'm not trippin'.
Let me break it down for you:
My rhythm: I--- ---- --I- -I--
I-Bo's rhythm: I--- ---- ---- II--
My tempo: 83 BPM
I-Bo's tempo: 97 BPM
And then as far as the notes, they're waaay different. Not only are they not the same notes, they're not the same pitch or octave.
Therefore, you have no case!
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pitch and octave generates the same result... if you rais the pittch, you change the octave
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Listen, you're the one who made a big deal over this shit...All I said is that it used a Rocky Balboa sample, and u started tripping...Honestly, who care's if it would make a case in court? Does it reall make a difference? No, so just drop this arguement, it's straight out stupid...PeAcE
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Listen, you're the one who made a big deal over this shit...All I said is that it used a Rocky Balboa sample, and u started tripping...Honestly, who care's if it would make a case in court? Does it reall make a difference? No, so just drop this arguement, it's straight out stupid...PeAcE
LMAO it was your idea to make a thread and you were the one that brought up whether it would make a case in court or not!
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+ link=board=thalab;num=1028237631;start=0#16 date=08/01/02 at 22:09:41]
LMAO it was your idea to make a thread and you were the one that brought up whether it would make a case in court or not!
Yea, cuz you started making a fuss and telling me you were gunna go ask your sister...LMaO
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Okay... so I asked my cousin who is a Harvard student staying with my family for the summer to work for my dad. He's going into his third year at Harvard, studying bio-chem, right now he's getting into buisness, knows alot about law and politics, and has been heavily involved with music since he was a really young. He's basically an all around smart and talented guy. Annnyywaaays... now that you have his background, let me give you his opinion. He said that I-Bo's beat would make a court case (well thats kinda obvious because it was inteded to be a remake of the Rocky Balboa song), but he said that mine definatly would not make a case, he didn't even have to think about it. I didn't even have to break it down for him like I did for ya'll, and you still don't believe me! But whatever, I know I'm right, I didn't have to ask him. PZ!
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Wtf? Phiasko..why would Ibo's make a case in court? he didnt do everything the same u idiot jus that one part like u did. foo
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i donno i've never heard the original... my cuzin was the one that listened to both and told me.