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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: FILMSTARS08.COM on July 31, 2008, 10:04:57 PM
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WHY IS IT THE WEST COAST, THE MOST POWERFUL IN THE BUSINESS NOT HAVE A PLACE IN HIP-HOP AT THE MOMENT? WHY ARE THEY NOT EMBRACING THIS NEW WEST COAST MOMENT FILMSTARS08.COM HAS PUT TOGETHER WITH POWERFUL STUDIO'S LIKE HARPO? DO THEY KNOW? DO THEY CARE? WHY ARE WE NOT BANNING TOGETHER. WHATS UP NEW WEST? THIS PLAT FORM IS FOR WEST COAST ARTIST TO SHOWCASE THEIR TALENT ON A INTERNATIONAL STAGE.
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WHY YOU JUS INSIST THAT THE WESTCOAST DONT HAVE UNITY,, SAME SHIT IN ALL OTHER REGIONS.. SO DONT GO SAYIN BEEF IS THE CAUSE OF A DOWNFALL.. WE AINT FELL OFF OR WENT NO WHERE..JUS A DOWN FALL LIKE WALL STREET.. SO CUZZ MIS ME WIT DAT BULLSHIT.... >:(
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too many haters.
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I BLAME IT ON JIMMY IOVINE :laugh:
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I could give a doodoo about unity among rappers.
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I could give a doodoo about unity among rappers.
for real just make hot music.
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because these rappers are bitchass niggahs and they beefing for the white dollar, whites in america love to see west coast rappers beefing so they do it for the silver screen, hence other areas think we are the "Wack" Coast, we behind every other coast, as soon as the West figures the unity shit out, they be on top again, until then, lets just watch these fools struggle for some importance in hip hop
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because these rappers are bitchass niggahs and they beefing for the white dollar, whites in america love to see west coast rappers beefing so they do it for the silver screen, hence other areas think we are the "Wack" Coast, we behind every other coast, as soon as the West figures the unity shit out, they be on top again, until then, lets just watch these fools struggle for some importance in hip hop
shut the fuk up with that black/white shit again homie, that shits played out. there aint been unity ever... since dre/eazy, quik/eiht, bloods/crips. now u got people like spider loc who cant get along with anyone cuz he 2 busy set trippin tryin to be the 'hardest' on the coast. as much as u wanna hate on em at least people like bishop lamont, game, and g malone as making some good music becauase they understand what its about and they put some effort and hustle into it. like i been saying, there is good music on the coast it just dont get attention becuase its not commercial enough. back in the day g funk was all over the place cuz it was different for the time, once the radio stations got tired of it they started looking for the next thing that sold. im tellin u homie, we still got dope music if u look for it...
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I could give a doodoo about unity among rappers.
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the west is pretty unified and it would bge alot more if spider loc was dead
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what does free post mean?
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the west is pretty unified and it would bge alot more if spider loc was dead
damn my nigga what he do to you ? ;D
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the west is pretty unified and it would bge alot more if spider loc was dead
FUCC YOU !!! BITCH-ASS NIGGA!!! I AINT NEVER SEEN SO MUCH HOE SHIT BEFORE IN MY LIFE!!! U GIVE LONG BEACH A BAD NAME...MATTER OF FACT U CANT BE FROM LONG BEACH U FROM LAGUNA BEACH!!! I WISH U WAS DEAD NIGGA!!!
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the west is pretty unified and it would bge alot more if spider loc was dead
FUCC YOU !!! BITCH-ASS NIGGA!!! I AINT NEVER SEEN SO MUCH HOE SHIT BEFORE IN MY LIFE!!! U GIVE LONG BEACH A BAD NAME...MATTER OF FACT U CANT BE FROM LONG BEACH U FROM LAGUNA BEACH!!! I WISH U WAS DEAD NIGGA!!!
and i wish your daughter and your cracka girlfriend was dead too, but before they die i hope they were both raped by an elephant
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www.myspace.com/spit
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Yeah Spider is the one fuckin it up tryna play games.
Fuck outta here.
Spider is the one fuckin it up.
Spider is a straight cornball +Straight Outta Coonville+, real talk.
Nigga can't rap, can't act, monotone ass voice, no bars, he think he got good lyrics,
writes his raps on paper he took home from Burger King.
Spider walkin around with open-toe sandals and shit giving 50 fellatios and shit.
Fuck this nigga. He fuckin it up.
Spider will be gone soon tho. Dont worry about it. He gonne choke up suckin 50s dick too hard. Just watch. I am the watcher.
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money is the root of all evil over on the westside of things. niggas get money then get egos and that's it. too many haters.
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money is the root of all evil over on the westside of things. niggas get money then get egos and that's it. too many haters.
first thing u said that i can co-sign.
but still at the end of the day buck > t.lie.p
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money is the root of all evil over on the westside of things. niggas get money then get egos and that's it. too many haters.
first thing u said that i can co-sign.
but still at the end of the day buck > t.lie.p
buck is cool but t.i. is better.
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Yeah Spider is the one fuckin it up tryna play games.
Fuck outta here.
Spider is the one fuckin it up.
Spider is a straight cornball +Straight Outta Coonville+, real talk.
Nigga can't rap, can't act, monotone ass voice, no bars, he think he got good lyrics,
writes his raps on paper he took home from Burger King.
Spider walkin around with open-toe sandals and shit giving 50 fellatios and shit.
Fuck this nigga. He fuckin it up.
Spider will be gone soon tho. Dont worry about it. He gonne choke up suckin 50s dick too hard. Just watch. I am the watcher.
LMAO real muthafuckin talk +1
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the west is pretty unified and it would bge alot more if spider loc was dead
FUCC YOU !!! BITCH-ASS NIGGA!!! I AINT NEVER SEEN SO MUCH HOE SHIT BEFORE IN MY LIFE!!! U GIVE LONG BEACH A BAD NAME...MATTER OF FACT U CANT BE FROM LONG BEACH U FROM LAGUNA BEACH!!! I WISH U WAS DEAD NIGGA!!!
Keep yo fat ass up outta here
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why does their need to be unity tho, why cant rappers jus release muzik?
if crooked dont want to fucc wit snoop/kurupt etc... that dont mean the west is dead?
bottomline is crooked spits heat, release a album
why get along jus to get along?
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no its not that ^^
but all these westcoast artist (including game, snoop) spend (or have spent) most of their time trying to "expose" the
"top dog" on the west, (ie game, xzibit, snoop) or diss him and diss him instead of focusing and trying to create good music.
cuz most westcoast artist is tryin to sell their image, not their music (ie spider loc).
when game could've dropped regular songs back in 06 (cuz he had to diss g-unit in 05 to stay alive in the industry, other wise his career would've been gone cuz 50 was huge at the time)
with beats like Body Bags and shit, he spent his time dissin em. just like now, he didnt have to diss g-unit on that "taped convo" song.
same thing with spider. instead of runnin around like a clown step your lyrics up. step your flow game up. step it up nigga.
you got all these artist hollerin shit on dvd's, talkin reckless on songs and shit instead of tryin to make good music together.
you dont seem to understand that people love to see unity, but when you put out a negative energy, thats how people are goin to portray you from there on.
like for instance spider will ALWAYS be "related" to controversy or negativity.
i mean damn just imagine a song by jay rock and ice cube?
a real song by yukmouth and game?
crooked i and game?
see what im sayin?
cuz you dont get it, when if im a new artist, and i diss game, then HIS fans and MY fans are going to have to pick a side, cuz people are gullible nowadays.
so basically, you lose at least 3-5% of your fans. and then another nigga disses you on a dvd. there goes another 5% of your fanbase and etc.
thats how it is.
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nah i get what you sayin but cats keep sayin crooked needs to get along wit snoop,
kurupt needs to fucc wit this rapper
this n that
why cant rappers jus release muzik and do their own thing?
jim jones stay dissin cats but look his does his own thing?
tech n9ne been talkin bad about people (problems hes ran into wit labels etc..)but he stays doin his thing
this coast jus as any other coast should be able to do that!
but nah rappers use releasin a mixtape as an album
a mixtape isnt a album, thats a mixtape for free!
so why cant yuk make dope muzik again like he was and jus release it?
he dont need to be down wit c-bo?
c-bo aint doin shit, he not releasin dope muzik anymore!
and game I mean Im not mad at the kid
he did what he had to do
he destroyed g-units group/camp etc... I mean he shut em down completely
he destroyed a company, a whole empire pretty much by himself
whether he did that for attention/bein a fake blood/ whatever reason others may think who knows, but he made SOME good muzik in the process
of all that
he didnt need to get along wit them to do that, he kept on makin muzik unlike others, and others complain its slavery, im bein blackballed, jimmy the jew is selfish
yeah fucc jimmy, but create your own lane like TECH N9NE DID
now look tech n9ne is creatin a empire of his own, he stayed goin at heads but look hes more consistent than yuk and yuk put him on
no its not that ^^
but all these westcoast artist (including game, snoop) spend (or have spent) most of their time trying to "expose" the
"top dog" on the west, (ie game, xzibit, snoop) or diss him and diss him instead of focusing and trying to create good music.
cuz most westcoast artist is tryin to sell their image, not their music (ie spider loc).
when game could've dropped regular songs back in 06 (cuz he had to diss g-unit in 05 to stay alive in the industry, other wise his career would've been gone cuz 50 was huge at the time)
with beats like Body Bags and shit, he spent his time dissin em. just like now, he didnt have to diss g-unit on that "taped convo" song.
same thing with spider. instead of runnin around like a clown step your lyrics up. step your flow game up. step it up nigga.
you got all these artist hollerin shit on dvd's, talkin reckless on songs and shit instead of tryin to make good music together.
you dont seem to understand that people love to see unity, but when you put out a negative energy, thats how people are goin to portray you from there on.
like for instance spider will ALWAYS be "related" to controversy or negativity.
i mean damn just imagine a song by jay rock and ice cube?
a real song by yukmouth and game?
crooked i and game?
see what im sayin?
cuz you dont get it, when if im a new artist, and i diss game, then HIS fans and MY fans are going to have to pick a side, cuz people are gullible nowadays.
so basically, you lose at least 3-5% of your fans. and then another nigga disses you on a dvd. there goes another 5% of your fanbase and etc.
thats how it is.
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yukmouth mentioned how the west needs to unite more often, now thats what im talking about. im glad he said that but if he says it then why doesnt he do it then?
but yh westcoast needs to unite more often. i mean if u hav a spice 1 ft. ice cube track which would be hot obv then thats gd cuz they aint rapped b4 with each other and could boost album sales.
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thats good but I mean a dope, DOPE SPICE 1 ALBUM would be great for his fans
a DOPE ICE CUBE album would be great for his fans
A DOPE ABOVE THE LAW ALBUM would be great for their fans
A DOPE YUKMOUTH ALBUM would be great for his fans
if they dont want to work together its not the end of the world
better to release a dope album than nothin?
but were not even gettin that?
at least from cube/wc/ we are!
but think about it if we had
A DOPE ALBUM BY ALL THESE ARTISTS:
YUK
SPICE
E-40
THE GAME
KURUPT
ABOVE THE LAW
ICE CUBE
WC
RAS KASS
CROOKED I
BISHOP LAMONT
MC REN
EASTWOOD
JAY O FELONY
MITCHY SLICK
DJ QUIK
KOKANE
WARREN G
CPO BOSS HOGG
and remember people want hardcore gangsta rap, but their not gettin it!
the west would be on some insane shit, but its not cuz we only have a few spittin heat and releasin that heat!
IMO it has nuthin to do wit the fact that theres no unity, no unity that dont stop you from releasin muzik, it shouldnt!
yukmouth mentioned how the west needs to unite more often, now thats what im talking about. im glad he said that but if he says it then why doesnt he do it then?
but yh westcoast needs to unite more often. i mean if u hav a spice 1 ft. ice cube track which would be hot obv then thats gd cuz they aint rapped b4 with each other and could boost album sales.
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^^ true but it is a way to get the west back on top
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nah it is and im not tryna to sound like I dont want em to get along but at the end of the day
if we get heat, nothin but heat from those artists and more str8 heat spitters, then this coast will not be railroaded!
I have been studyin this coast for a while the rappers/releases/what cats say etc.. and its the same shit for years!
crooked still doesnt have a fuckin album out! his new mixtape is on some weird shit!
we have to wait for cube/wc to bring heat!
we cant rely on game for muzik, hes a all-round artist, not str8 westcoast!
yuk-releases a album, not on godzilla's level
kurupt-hasnt released heat (album) in a while
wheres above the law?
wheres mc ren?
wheres that raw g-funk kokane?
wheres jay o felony?
bishop is producin is heat but it takes a whole coast, dont need to be united, jus more heat spitters!
its not like this coast aint got em
mixtapes aint shit these days! they arent doin it, that aint enuff!!
look at the eastcoast
they do mixtapes, albums, tours, the whoel fuckin 9!
thats why cats are callin this coast and its rappers "mixtape rappers"
^^ true but it is a way to get the west back on top
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2 many niggaz hatin on each other...thats y... 8)
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yukmouth mentioned how the west needs to unite more often, now thats what im talking about. im glad he said that but if he says it then why doesnt he do it then?
but yh westcoast needs to unite more often. i mean if u hav a spice 1 ft. ice cube track which would be hot obv then thats gd cuz they aint rapped b4 with each other and could boost album sales.
if feel u on that enyce but some of these artist are pretty lazy 2 and expects a handout from other rappers.
and to kurupt4life//
yes its true, yukmouth did say that...but what has he done to make it happen? nothin
i hear spider loc talkin about unity, but hes the same cat that is contributing to negativity the westcoast is suffering from right now.
i hear snoop talkin about we need to make peace and bla bla, but then he talks left and right about crooked i?
see what im sayin. they (everyone) talks alot but does nothin, even tho its hard.
man the DR days was the shit. U had a whole camp of people helpin each other out during each individuals projects and it westcoast was on top.
of course EVERYBODY aint gonna like each other but thats how its always gonna be.
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they need to have just one big ass west coast function artists and producers(including dr. dre) and Minister Louis Farrakhan and push making the best quality of music they can make. and dead all the bullshit seriously.
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they need to have just one big ass west coast function artists and producers(including dr. dre) and Minister Louis Farrakhan and push making the best quality of music they can make. and dead all the bullshit seriously.
Didn't a conference already happen? And nothing came out of it. I'd say the majority of the coast is unified to a certain extent. But you do have a few stragglers out there that choose to go against it.
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they need to have just one big ass west coast function artists and producers(including dr. dre) and Minister Louis Farrakhan and push making the best quality of music they can make. and dead all the bullshit seriously.
Didn't a conference already happen? And nothing came out of it. I'd say the majority of the coast is unified to a certain extent. But you do have a few stragglers out there that choose to go against it.
yeah but that was headed by snoop and you already know that was some bullshit. there are some bad apples though.
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2 many niggaz hatin on each other...thats y... 8)
That can be a reason. That's what happened with Memphis rap some years ago, the crab bucket mentality. 1 of the reasons the south is doing well is because of unity. Florida artists also. It should be all about team, money & success. If the west coast unites[most of it] they'd be hard to stop & reign supreme again. Just like when this one dude that was on Taxicab Confessions over a decade ago who looked like Keyshawn Johnson said it best. It black people can unite, there be no stopping us. And I think bigots know that.
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yeah exactly ^
i mean damn Dj Khaled aint even a fuckin rapper or a c.e.o. but that nigga promotes the SHIT out of miami artist, westcoast dj's barely plays anything aside from Snoop, Game and maybe Cube.
then you had that "new artists vs old artists" thing for a while.
then you had that "new west" whatever the fuck that is.
then spider talkin about "true west"
then theres Game vs spider loc
Snoop vs Spider
Crooked I vs Snoop
Ras Kass vs Game
Cube and Mack aint speakin (but i know this is some personal shit)
Half the new cats dont respect or want to fuck with the old/established cats and vice versa.
I honestly think most of these artist dont even go out and cop each others album.
I think Glasses is one a few who actually supports westcoast artists heavy.
shit just years ago Dresta was biggin up Game talkin good, talkin about how they was supposed to do mixtape together and all that, then years later it was "fuck you".
first Lil Eazy was fuckin with Game, then he flipped it and all of a sudden he wasnt.
See the problem is, most westcoast rappers take the whole "gangbangin/street" mentality with em into the industry. And shit the record excecutives are scared as FUCK that they might experience the shit they went through when DR reigned supreme (ppl got smacked up, rappers died, controversy here and there)
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nowhere has unity
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It just isn't a situation where it makes sense. Snoop and Game doing the "West Unity" thing really didn't do much long term. The artists who benefited were the cats who were already established like Cube, Too Short, Dogg Pound, etc. They both brought a heavy West Coast influence on their immediate album after that but when it didn't do as big as they projected, they went to new formulas for their next ones. At this point, Game seems to be more into reaching out to artists from other regions like Wayne and such. He doesn't have a lane to bring out new artists. Snoop hasn't brought up new proteges or acts since Eastsidaz and even they were pretty much just guys who were down since the Death Row DPG camp days. Cube's only big prospect is W.C. who been doing it since the 80's.
I think the unity issue comes down to the older artists not creating a window for the younger ones and the young cats throwing shots as a response.
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yeah exactly ^
i mean damn Dj Khaled aint even a fuckin rapper or a c.e.o. but that nigga promotes the SHIT out of miami artist, westcoast dj's barely plays anything aside from Snoop, Game and maybe Cube.
then you had that "new artists vs old artists" thing for a while.
then you had that "new west" whatever the fuck that is.
then spider talkin about "true west"
then theres Game vs spider loc
Snoop vs Spider
Crooked I vs Snoop
Ras Kass vs Game
Cube and Mack aint speakin (but i know this is some personal shit)
Half the new cats dont respect or want to fuck with the old/established cats and vice versa.
I honestly think most of these artist dont even go out and cop each others album.
I think Glasses is one a few who actually supports westcoast artists heavy.
shit just years ago Dresta was biggin up Game talkin good, talkin about how they was supposed to do mixtape together and all that, then years later it was "fuck you".
first Lil Eazy was fuckin with Game, then he flipped it and all of a sudden he wasnt.
See the problem is, most westcoast rappers take the whole "gangbangin/street" mentality with em into the industry. And shit the record excecutives are afraid as FUCK that they might experience the shit they went through when DR reigned supreme (ppl got smacked up, rappers died, controversy here and there)
real talk...especially the last part... 8)