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Title: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 05, 2002, 10:38:16 PM
http://www.mr-angulus.com/rockthewest.mp3

check this beat ....

drop your comments + if ur rappin try to rap on this beat and send it back to me on icq or upload it ...


peace

Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Rud on April 06, 2002, 01:56:37 AM
Fuck Man Thats Is Dope!!

I May Drop Something On It Need 2 Get That Mic This Week



peace
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: KVB on April 06, 2002, 04:25:51 AM
This is dope as fuck... man for real, you're a really dope producer... this beat got me in the mood for freestyling right now... excellent beat, you're easily the #1 producer around here
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 06, 2002, 04:59:15 AM
nice beat...

u sould encode it to 192kb/s .. else the quality of the hihats is lacking
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 06, 2002, 05:00:44 AM
shit.. this beat sounds little similar to the beat i'm making to the WCC compliation album too :-/
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: AlerG on April 06, 2002, 07:32:05 AM
god muthafuckin damn...this is the best beat i have ever heard you make jay, fucken heated doesn't even describe it, peace.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 07, 2002, 04:37:50 PM
if you don't mind i would like to record something to that beat
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Suga Foot on April 07, 2002, 04:52:35 PM
Tite beat Jay!  
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2002, 05:14:55 PM
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god muthafuckin damn...this is the best beat i have ever heard you make jay, fucken heated doesn't even describe it, peace.




Dope beat, but its not your BESt like some people were saying..though it is a 4.5/5
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: bLaDe HeLi[X] on April 07, 2002, 05:21:24 PM
nice

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tha_Chozen_1 on April 07, 2002, 06:04:30 PM
Tiiiiiiiight.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 08, 2002, 06:39:19 AM
yo jay i have all the lyrics recorded to this shit....This will be on the WCC album.I will upload the shit to here and jay can mix the beat or what not..peace
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 08, 2002, 10:25:26 AM
yeah y not
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 08, 2002, 10:30:12 AM
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yeah y not


ive already mixed and mastered it .. im also gonna mix in some scratching samples by tomorrow...

btw.. what bpm is the beat?
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Gate Won on April 09, 2002, 03:44:38 AM
that shit is live
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 09, 2002, 03:51:37 AM
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ive already mixed and mastered it .. im also gonna mix in some scratching samples by tomorrow...

btw.. what bpm is the beat?


i d like  to mix it though...
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 09, 2002, 03:52:06 AM
it s my beat so why u mixed it?
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 09, 2002, 03:57:06 AM
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it s my beat so why u mixed it?


so u mean that since it's your beat, i cant mix it???

primo asked for someebody to mix it so i did, and i also mastered it since u obviously didnīt do that ...if you dont like it, talk to him...
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 09, 2002, 08:17:22 AM
the track is finished and i gave full props to jay which is in the song......
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 09, 2002, 03:30:04 PM
BTW Jay, would u like to hear the track i recorded to the beat u made me titled "NIK.mp3"...The track is called "Confusion" and itll be on the WCC compilation, people told me they liked it...If you want, ill send it to u...



Ps, Im still waiting for a new beat from u, when u got it, or if your not gunna do a new one for me, hit me up...
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 10, 2002, 03:51:41 AM
to I-BO

i d like to mix my shit ...thats it .if i produce a beat i want to mix it ...it s not even your business.no diss ( u know that ) but my shit is my shit and your shit is yours.
u can mix your songs and i will mix my songs.
btw i don t even get your idea of the term "mastering" if u don t even got any vocals on it...
i heard your mix and i can honestly say that i didn t like it -

quote PRIMO:"I will upload the shit to here and jay can mix the beat or what not..peace "

this is what  he told me and i was down ....
so why did primo ask u then?????
let me mix this beat.up the acapella.

to NIK

PM me the url of that song aight?

Peace
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 10, 2002, 04:08:18 AM
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to I-BO

i d like to mix my shit ...thats it .if i produce a beat i want to mix it ...it s not even your business.no diss ( u know that ) but my shit is my shit and your shit is yours.
u can mix your songs and i will mix my songs.
btw i don t even get your idea of the term "mastering" if u don t even got any vocals on it...
i heard your mix and i can honestly say that i didn t like it -

quote PRIMO:"I will upload the shit to here and jay can mix the beat or what not..peace "

this is what  he told me and i was down ....
so why did primo ask u then?????
let me mix this beat.up the acapella.

to NIK

PM me the url of that song aight?

Peace



whats your problem... i thaught i explained things for you in ICQ...

1. Primo asked for somebody to mix... u didnt answer, so i offered him to mix it and he responded
2. I did send you the full track over icq and u admitted that it was good
3. I did tell you that if you want to mix it you shall holla at primo, cuz he got the unedited acapella...
4. Primo did talk to me and i told him that you wanted to mix it and that he shall holla at you

so i dont understand why you're making this post

btw ..... if you record a track in studio, the vocals will be perfectly clear, the peaks wont be to high, the frequences wont be to wide and all other terms would be perfect ... in that case theres no diffrence in mastering the track with or without the vocals...

BUT....

when you record a track with a computer mic YOU MUST separate the files before mastering, to make a good result... a computer mic isnt ment for recording songs, so you gotta master the acapella, compress it, set the peak level, filter noise, add reverb, whathever, THEN you either mmix it to the beat and master it OR master the beat first, then mix it .... if you mix it to the beat before mastering it you may destroy sum of the voice quailty since it aint good to master a file twice....

thats the reason i mastered the beat and vocals before mixing them
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 10, 2002, 04:20:38 AM
oh oh oh something is wrong..-.-..-.-.-.-  ::)

1. Primo asked for somebody to mix... u didnt answer, so i offered him to mix it and he responded


i answered dogg i said "yeah , y not " u even quoted that one  ::)

2.u said i wrote to u that i liked your mix ...??????

can t remember that here s the history :
JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:33 sup?

I-BO       09.04.02 16:33 chillin.. self?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:34 same...
                             
                              i d like to talk about that beat i made , to be
                              honest i d like to hear your mixing before the
                              song is " done " ....
                             
                             

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:35 cause i d like to mix that by myself

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:35 re send

I-BO       09.04.02 16:35 i can tell u exactly what ive done with your beat

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:35 send it over i wanna hear it

I-BO       09.04.02 16:37 it sounded little empty, i used "magneto" to
                              "fill" the beat .. then i used a compressor to
                              raise the low frequents and lower the higher,
                              then i set the peak level to 0
                             

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:37 send it over i wanna hear it

I-BO       09.04.02 16:37 have u check the demo i sent?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:38 i can t listen to letters u know;-)

I-BO       09.04.02 16:38 lol.. i just sent u a 10 sec preview.. didnt i?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:39 no

I-BO       09.04.02 16:39 after producing your beats.. do you master them?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:40 yeah

I-BO       09.04.02 16:40 did you master the primo-beat?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:41 produce - mix - master
                             
                              no the primo beat was just to get the idea

I-BO       09.04.02 16:41 i prefer produce - master - mix

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:42 y?

I-BO       09.04.02 16:42 so that i can master the acapella and compress it
                              the way i want without effecting the beat

I-BO       09.04.02 16:42 and vice verca

I-BO       09.04.02 16:44 like maby i notice that the beat have to much
                              bass or to high hihats or sumthing.... if the
                              beat is already mixed with the acapella it will
                              be difficult to adjust it without also adjusting
                              the acapella

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:45 let me handle it ... i l do it

I-BO       09.04.02 16:45 it wasnt good enough?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:46 what "it"

I-BO       09.04.02 16:46 the beat

I-BO       09.04.02 16:46 *the track

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:48 the main thing i want to do about it is to
                              arrange it properly ...
                              i might mix it here and there but overall i m
                              satisfied with what i got

I-BO       09.04.02 16:48 well.. u talk to primo about this.... its up to
                              him

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:49 ok

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:50 do u have the acapella

I-BO       09.04.02 16:50 only the mastered acapella

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:50 could u send it over

I-BO       09.04.02 16:53 shit.. i cant find it.. hold

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:55 dogg .... let me mix it

I-BO       09.04.02 16:55 hold

I-BO       09.04.02 17:01 aight

I-BO       09.04.02 17:03 sorry.. i cant find that either... ull had to
                              holla at primo

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 17:05 ok hit me back




now let me mix it ....
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 10, 2002, 04:46:47 AM
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I-BO  09.04.02 16:45 it wasnt good enough?

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:46 what "it"

I-BO  09.04.02 16:46 the beat

I-BO  09.04.02 16:46 *the track

JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:48 the main thing i want to do about it is to
     arrange it properly ...
    i might mix it here and there but overall i m
     satisfied with what i got


^^prove^^

since you didnt said anything about the mastering question, im guessin that u understand why i master them separate....

btw, i did mix the track BEFORE u said "yeah, why not" ....


im smelling an inch of beef here, so im ending this discussion .... i already told you to holla at primo if you want to mix the beat... i also told primo to holla at you cuz you want to mix the beat, so dont try to act like im tryin to "take away" the mixing from you....

and off discussion from my side
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 10, 2002, 05:16:04 AM
lol i was talkin about  my beat and not your track .
i wouldn t have told u that i wanted to mix it. ::)

at that time , i didn t even listen to your mix....

the thing is, let me handle my beats
"JAYMASTAJA 09.04.02 16:48 the main thing i want to do about it is to
     arrange it properly ...
     i might mix it here and there but overall i m
     satisfied with what i got  "

how should i mix a complete track ?

i don t want no beef but i don t like the way u mix songs, u can t even turn most of your songs up without fucking up your ears.my shit used to sound as bad as yours but i know alot of poeple who are real sound engineer and i m going to a school this september to become one myself.

just let me handle this...
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 10, 2002, 05:21:44 AM

lol... ^^.. im taking that aīs a joke.... cuz i havent heard much things from you thats well mixed..... or well mastered ...


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lol i was talkin about  my beat and not your track .
i wouldn t have told u that i wanted to mix it.  

u thaught i asked u if you think your beat was good enough??  ::) ... thats the worsest exuse i ever heard


i have a deja vu feeling... im droppin this before things is getting heated... :-/
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 10, 2002, 06:01:31 AM
if this is the final version of the song i ain t down with it....
if u gon mix the whole cd it s gon be trashhhhhh.....
peace
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 10, 2002, 06:34:18 AM
FOOL I ALREADY TOLD YOU YOU'RE MIXING YOUR GOD DAMN TRACK BY YOURSELF .... DO YOU HAVE BRAIN IN YOUR HEAD OR NOT, CUZ YOU OBVIOUSLY ACTIN LIKE YOU GOT A APPLE THERe OR SUMTHIN....

since you cant stop dissing me, WHY shall i hold back on you ....

1. You claimin that you can master tracks, even though over 60% of your tracks ive listened to have been unmastered .. even though your beat sounds like theres no bass at all, even though you beats guitars is always to loud...hold...
u told me on ICQ that u dont master before uve placed vocals... ::).. so when u said that u master all your track, you gotta mean that mc's have rapped to ALL your tracks.. OR???
2. you're sayin that my beats are wack?? ... even though i got over 10 guys hollering at me for beats... ive heard sum of your tracks with your german homies ... ive heard sum your your tracks with EMCEE (who actually lives in same city as i) ... ive heard his opinions concerning your beats and your cockyness ive heard others opinions concerning your beats and your cockyness.... HOW THE HELL could you claim to do professional beats when u used your wack synthesizer with those wack drums and pianos and basses??? ... just listen to AlerG's album... props for AlerG who's trememdous on the mic with dope skillz... but them beats...are amteur beats...btw ALL of them are unmastered.. what ive heard many people have said that the dopest beat was made from you ... the "Sadam Hitler" beat.. WTF??? isnt it made by ME?? exactly...

finally you got sum dope instruments... even though the basses and the drums still are weak... but still you dont manage to mix it right.. lets take the "rock west" beat for example... pretty nice beat, i gotta admit that... but where is the bass??... almost impossible to hear... and .listen from 0:50 to 1:40 .. same 4/4 loop during almost a whole minute... then the only changes u makes is by adding /removing the saxophone until the beat fades out.... hm....

i didnt start this, you started it, like you started our first beef 1 year ago... remember that...

(dont u even dare removing this post like you did in the old days, else ill holla at Overseer to have your mod position removed...overseer dont like mods to delete posts to have advantage.. just check what happened to bigjakedoggydogg..)
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 10, 2002, 08:21:26 AM
woah woah woah..My AIM name is redrum213....I will give the accapella to jay to mix.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 10, 2002, 10:23:12 AM
::)2I-BO



8)
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 10, 2002, 11:26:19 AM
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::)2I-BO



8)


lol.. u still dont understand that im the one who told primo to holla at you.... he said he didnt mind whoever would mix it and i told him to holla at you... thats a fact u seems to ignore all the time..

ive dropped my last words conserning this topic
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2002, 12:57:25 PM
Ibo, stop being concerened with all the mastering mixing same loop for drums, whatever, who gives a shit? If it sounds good it sounds good...


Jay, you know I think your probably one of the dopest producers on the net, but listen up, Ive heard your mixing, and it isnt too good. Sometimes you mix the beat too loud, and the lyrics too low. For example, "Cast Away"...Im not saying your bad, but some tracks ive heard u mix, werent mixed too well...But I definently agree you are a dope producer, and so is I-Bo. You guys are both dope and should stop beefing...


I-Bo, You know I think your dope as well, but dont act like your a profesianal mixer either, I mean, your not bad, but one track that I herad u mix was absolutely horrible (no offence)...That track with Igeezy, your voice was mixed like 20 times higher than I geezy, when your part came one, my ear drums just bursted and i had to turn the volume down...The other shit i heard u mix was cool, but your not the greatest, and Jay, you aint the greatest either...Both of you are extraordinary and tremendously dope producers with amazing talent, and should stop beefing over stupid shit...Peace


No beef guys, Im not in this to get into any beefs, Im in this to break it up...
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 10, 2002, 01:31:28 PM
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Ibo, stop being concerened with all the mastering mixing same loop for drums, whatever, who gives a shit? If it sounds good it sounds good...


Jay, you know I think your probably one of the dopest producers on the net, but listen up, Ive heard your mixing, and it isnt too good. Sometimes you mix the beat too loud, and the lyrics too low. For example, "Cast Away"...Im not saying your bad, but some tracks ive heard u mix, werent mixed too well...But I definently agree you are a dope producer, and so is I-Bo. You guys are both dope and should stop beefing...


I-Bo, You know I think your dope as well, but dont act like your a profesianal mixer either, I mean, your not bad, but one track that I herad u mix was absolutely horrible (no offence)...That track with Igeezy, your voice was mixed like 20 times higher than I geezy, when your part came one, my ear drums just bursted and i had to turn the volume down...The other shit i heard u mix was cool, but your not the greatest, and Jay, you aint the greatest either...Both of you are extraordinary and tremendously dope producers with amazing talent, and should stop beefing over stupid shit...Peace


No beef guys, Im not in this to get into any beefs, Im in this to break it up...


u know i got love for you.. if you give constructive critism i can handle it... so its all good... and yes, i agree that the igeezy track wasnt well mixed...

but he's the one starting the beef.. i told him 3 TIMES that he shall holla at primo if he want to mix it, but he still being ignorant about it...


by the way.. check this beat i made 2day and drp your opinion
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=UnsignedHype;action=display;num=996637131
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: AlerG on April 10, 2002, 06:02:35 PM
don't knock jay for the producing on "cast away" because me and my homie did the mixing for that and it was our first song ever mixing so it didn't turn out as good as the rest of the cd, but it was aight, peace.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: jay on April 11, 2002, 03:38:12 AM
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don't knock jay for the producing on "cast away" because me and my homie did the mixing for that and it was our first song ever mixing so it didn't turn out as good as the rest of the cd, but it was aight, peace.


all the tracks on alerg s album weren t mixed by me just to make that one clear.

and i told i-bo before that i don t mix my beats when i upload them for the first time.

i gave i bo some mixed beats about a month ago so he should know that i  can mix my shit .
i can t upload those beats for yall but i think i gave infinte one short beat so he should know too.

all i want is to be in control of my own shit and i think most of yall understand that.


i m not trying to get angry at someone i don t know.
i m in control of my shit now and from now on i think nobody will put his hands on others songs without asking and thats cool.

i ve been here everysince the dreday site was hot.
and i had my beefs now it s time for me to make beats.
i don t care if i-bo is mad , typing all the shit he can think about me because 99.9% of what  he s talking bout ain t tru or off the topic.i m not even reading his shit anymore.

lets make music and stop talking.

Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Maestro Minded on April 11, 2002, 04:08:33 AM
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i gave i bo some mixed beats about a month ago so he should know that i  can mix my shit.

yeah.. i did hear them.. they sounded unmastered... i thaught they were promo os something

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i ve been here everysince the dreday site was hot.

your point??

Quote

and i had my beefs now it s time for me to make beats.
i don t care if i-bo is mad , typing all the shit he can think about me because 99.9% of what  he s talking bout ain t tru or off the topic.i m not even reading his shit anymore.

well if you say so... ::)


Quote
lets make music and stop talking.

i totaly agree
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: I TO DA GEEZY on April 15, 2002, 03:43:02 AM
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I-Bo, You know I think your dope as well, but dont act like your a profesianal mixer either, I mean, your not bad, but one track that I herad u mix was absolutely horrible (no offence)...That track with Igeezy, your voice was mixed like 20 times higher than I geezy, when your part came one, my ear drums just bursted and i had to turn the volume down...

lol...^...well i guess that mix waz kinda my fault(tho i liked it ...btw...tha overly high volume mix on I-BOz verse soundz kinda tight when you bump it on tha system..lol ;D), i pretty much rushed I-BO into mixing it...cauze that track waz mad pushed back in my planz...i think I-BO iz a great producer i loved every beat i heared from him. :).

JAY....this beat iz ILL...u a great producer as well...btw...i"m still waiting like crazy to hear that shit you laying down for my album :)....
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Matty_C on April 15, 2002, 04:50:02 PM
Jay i would love to use this for my disc,
Get at me man,
Its all written out, Just need permission, if not its cool.

Peace
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 15, 2002, 04:52:10 PM
nexus i already spit on this shit
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Matty_C on April 15, 2002, 04:56:30 PM
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nexus i already spit on this shit


Oh aight,
N/M then,

I gotta hear this track when u up it.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 16, 2002, 05:17:41 AM
hmmmm wait a minute....This track is kinda short...Maybe you can spit a 2 verses and we can combine that shit for one song
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Matty_C on April 16, 2002, 06:03:56 AM
Up it somewhere so i can download it, then il just record my parts and send it back to you and it'l be complete.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 17, 2002, 01:08:34 PM
woah!


Nexus recorded a track to this beat titled "The One" and it is just pure dopeness...
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Tecknine on April 18, 2002, 05:01:20 PM
Woah we need to combine this some how so both our tracks are not wasted..Get at me on Aim Redrum213
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Matty_C on April 19, 2002, 05:48:10 AM
Aight, il get at you,
Ur on my list.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: AlerG on April 24, 2002, 12:23:42 PM
me and my homie are going to record a song to this beat but it will not be released on the net, because i don't want it to interfer with the success of primo's version...i will however send it to jay when it's done but it's not a priority to get finished right now, later though, peace.
Title: Re: new jmj beat for anyone ( possible WCC track)
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 28, 2002, 11:51:46 AM
Thats 3 people making a song tto 1 beat...LMAO