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Title: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 02:10:16 PM
Producer Credits: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=184774.0



http://www.zshare.net/audio/18952758157ad3c8/

prod. by dj toomp i believe
Title: Re: (NEW) T.I. Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. - On Top Of The World (Paper Trail)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
this shit is fire even wit luda on it.
Title: Re: (NEW) T.I. Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. - On Top Of The World (Paper Trail)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 02:44:42 PM
this shit is fire even wit luda on it.
ya wow
this is NUTS!
Title: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 02:59:39 PM
pretty sure this is the real tracklisting

1. 56 Bars
Prod. By DJ Toomp

2. I'm Illy
Prod. By Danja

3. Ready For Whatever
Prod. By DJ Toomp

4. On Top Of The World Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B.
Prod. By DJ Toomp

5. Live Your Life Ft. Rihanna
Prod. By Just Blaze

6. Whatever You Like
Prod. By Jim Jonsin

7. No Matter What
Prod. By Danja

8. My Life, Your Entertainment Ft. Usher
Prod. By Drumma Boy

9. Porn Star
Prod. By ?

10. Swing Ya Rag
Prod. By Swizz Beats

11. What's Up, What's Happening
Prod. By Drumma Boy

12. Every Chance I Get
Prod. By ?

13. Swagga Like Us W/ Jay-Z Ft. Lil Wayne & Kanye West
Prod. By Kanye West

14. Slide Show Ft. John Legend
Prod. By ?

15. You Ain't Missing Nothing
Prod. By DJ Toomp

16. Dead & Gone Ft. Justin Timberlake
Prod. By Timbaland
Title: T.I. - 56 Bars (Intro) Paper Trail Prod. By DJ Toomp
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:02:46 PM
http://www.zshare.net/audio/18956921f58ae80c/
Title: Re: (NEW) T.I. Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. - On Top Of The World (Paper Trail)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:05:47 PM
BANGER!
Title: Re: T.I. - 56 Bars (Intro) Paper Trail Prod. By DJ Toomp
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 03:08:28 PM
fire. paper trail will be a classic.
Title: Re: T.I. - 56 Bars (Intro) Paper Trail Prod. By DJ Toomp
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:09:04 PM
fire. paper trail will be a classic.
wow, the 3 leaked songs today are FIRE
and after seeing the tracklisting
Toomp got at least FOUR beats :o
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 03:09:45 PM
great.
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:10:33 PM
^at least 4 toomp beats
wow, that's dope

want to know who prod the 3 songs with the ?
Title: Re: (NEW) T.I. Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. - On Top Of The World (Paper Trail)
Post by: Black Friday on September 17, 2008, 03:13:21 PM
wasn't kanye supposed to be on this ? Oh well tracks still fire  8)
Title: Re: (NEW) T.I. Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. - On Top Of The World (Paper Trail)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
wasn't kanye supposed to be on this ? Oh well tracks still fire  8)
he was taken off and replaced by luda cause the label didn't want 2 kanye features (kanye on 'swagger like us')
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:14:09 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/ri87iv.jpg)
Title: Re: T.I. - 56 Bars (Intro) Paper Trail Prod. By DJ Toomp
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 03:16:15 PM
fire. paper trail will be a classic.
wow, the 3 leaked songs today are FIRE
and after seeing the tracklisting
Toomp got at least FOUR beats :o
a classic indeed. album of the year.
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 17, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
(http://i36.tinypic.com/ri87iv.jpg)


that white boy needs to upload that shit
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:19:48 PM
i've got a bad feelin the cd will leak very soon
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 03:20:16 PM
i'm not even mad at the tracklisting. it's cool.
Title: Paper Trail Out To Stream...Weird
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:24:19 PM
http://www.deezer.com/#music/album/216677

that's fucked.
Title: Re: Paper Trail Out To Stream...Weird
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 03:31:57 PM
i'm still coppin' it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 03:49:52 PM
You Ain't Missin' Nothin'
http://www.zshare.net/audio/18958775afc99e79/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: HA2O on September 17, 2008, 03:53:28 PM
T.I. killed that Intro. Toomp too.

Besides, Luna, i'm sure that " Ready For Whatever " is not a Toomp Track. 100 % sure.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 17, 2008, 04:02:42 PM
damn, i'm gonna avoid listening to all this til i buy it. well i'm going to try at least lol.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 04:03:11 PM
You Ain't Missin' Nothin'
http://www.zshare.net/audio/18958775afc99e79/
this shit is hot. damn album of the year.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:04:11 PM
i heard whole cd will be out within the hour
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: wc-reppin on September 17, 2008, 04:07:28 PM
Regardless if it leaks today I will be purchasing this the 1st day it drops. T.I. is always dope!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:08:43 PM
Regardless if it leaks today I will be purchasing this the 1st day it drops. T.I. is always dope!!
same as me!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: wc-reppin on September 17, 2008, 04:11:19 PM
Difference between you and I Lunatic is that I will only buy 1 or 2 copies not wipe out Best Buy's racks hahahhaa just playin
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:12:54 PM
Difference between you and I Lunatic is that I will only buy 1 or 2 copies not wipe out Best Buy's racks hahahhaa just playin
LMAO i would probably do that (j/k) if my wallet let me  ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: wc-reppin on September 17, 2008, 04:14:24 PM
Nah I respect you as a fan man. You are true to T.I.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: wc-reppin on September 17, 2008, 04:15:20 PM
By the way that top of the world song  :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:15:36 PM
Nah I respect you as a fan man. You are true to T.I.
no doubt! thanks!
i respect u as a person dog
it's Under Wire Mag doin it big! 8)  i wish u all the success!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:15:52 PM
By the way that top of the world song  :o :o :o :o
tell me bout it 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: wc-reppin on September 17, 2008, 04:17:10 PM
Damn it if you give me props spell the magazine right Underwire hahahah just fuckin with you fam
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:17:53 PM
Damn it if you give me props spell the magazine right Underwire hahahah just fuckin with you fam
lmao my bad i put the space
my dog 8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Jome on September 17, 2008, 04:24:59 PM
Webrip is out.. will do until the group drops.  8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 04:26:17 PM
Webrip is out.. will do until the group drops.  8)
seen
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 04:46:52 PM
can anyone pm me about the webrip? wanna check this out for those toomp tracks and the other danja one 8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:17:28 PM
13 days early it leaked, damn
anyone remember how early carter 3 leaked?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 17, 2008, 05:24:19 PM
13 days is completley normal, it usually leaks 11 days earlier, so give and take +-2 and you get your leak period.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:25:22 PM
13 days is completley normal, it usually leaks 11 days earlier, so give and take +-2 and you get your leak period.
not really - the norm is usually 7-8 days
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 05:26:07 PM
i'm sure he will still sell loads i don't reckon the leaks make as much difference as they could these days. the reason for the early leak is probably cause of the pressing starting earlier cause they will be making a lot of copies of an album expected to sell very heavily.

i doubt there's many people who are copping a particular record that don't know they could be downloading it free a week + beforehand. t.i. seems to have a very good fanbase in terms of people actually buying his cds 8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: MoodMuzik on September 17, 2008, 05:28:27 PM
hows the cd nyways
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:32:18 PM
i heard whole cd will be out within the hour
i hope.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:32:45 PM
i heard whole cd will be out within the hour
i hope.
it's leaked - the webrip has at least
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 05:35:39 PM
i wish he coulda had more production from by danja on the album. a cd handled mostly by dj toomp + danja would have been fire. good to see quite a few toomp tracks though. i reserve judgement until listening...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:36:43 PM
i wish he coulda had more production handled by danja. a cd handled mostly by dj toomp + danja would have been fire. good to see quite a few toomp tracks though. i reserve judgement until listening...
3 toomp beats
3 drumma boy beats
2 danja beats
just blaze
timbaland
kanye west

and still 3 songs we don't know who produced that cud be those names or other big 1s

prod. list looks straight
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 05:40:30 PM
yeah its solid. the track with JT was a goodie. i'm just a danja groupie cause imo he's easily the best producer in the game right now. 'no matter what' is still the freshest track i heard from this album...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:40:38 PM
i heard whole cd will be out within the hour
i hope.
it's leaked - the webrip has at least
i want to burn this on cd.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:41:13 PM
i heard whole cd will be out within the hour
i hope.
it's leaked - the webrip has at least
i want to burn this on cd.
do it then dog
but still cop it sept 30 ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:42:11 PM
i wish he coulda had more production handled by danja. a cd handled mostly by dj toomp + danja would have been fire. good to see quite a few toomp tracks though. i reserve judgement until listening...
3 toomp beats
3 drumma boy beats
2 danja beats
just blaze
timbaland
kanye west

and still 3 songs we don't know who produced that cud be those names or other big 1s

prod. list looks straight
who did 'you ain't missin' nothin' ? that song is amazing !!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:43:02 PM
^DJ Toomp
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Reventón Bogotá Rolla on September 17, 2008, 05:43:29 PM
damn!!! I knew Paper Trail would be the one to copp out of all the others...


yo...CLASSIC!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:44:05 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:44:40 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
u already know how toomp get down!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 05:44:52 PM
Quality..............: Poor, (avg. bitrate: 132kbps) ;|
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:45:38 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
u already know how toomp get down!
so he has 4 beats on the album !
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:46:35 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
u already know how toomp get down!
so he has 4 beats on the album !
ya i think its 4
2 others are still unknown who prod. them (porn star & slide show) but they don't sound like toomp
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:49:00 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
u already know how toomp get down!
so he has 4 beats on the album !
ya i think its 4
2 others are still unknown who prod. them (porn star & slide show) but they don't sound like toomp
he shoulda added some mannie fresh.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:49:57 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
u already know how toomp get down!
so he has 4 beats on the album !
ya i think its 4
2 others are still unknown who prod. them (porn star & slide show) but they don't sound like toomp
he shoulda added some mannie fresh.
oh well, it's all good - the prod. list is damn flawless
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:52:50 PM
Regardless if it leaks today I will be purchasing this the 1st day it drops. T.I. is always dope!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:53:47 PM
^DJ Toomp
damn !!!!!!!!!
u already know how toomp get down!
so he has 4 beats on the album !
ya i think its 4
2 others are still unknown who prod. them (porn star & slide show) but they don't sound like toomp
he shoulda added some mannie fresh.
oh well, it's all good - the prod. list is damn flawless
hell yeah. i consider this album a classic.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 05:58:10 PM
just started officially bumpin it
god damn this intro is nuts
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 05:59:38 PM
just started officially bumpin it
god damn this into is nuts
where ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:01:10 PM
just started officially bumpin it
god damn this into is nuts
where ?
u aint listening 2 it yet?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 06:01:34 PM
classic material you considered this album a classic before even hearing it! but i aint hating it i'm playing it now and so far its banging. looking at the production list it's probably be more hit and miss after these first 4 tracks which are GREAT.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 06:02:28 PM
just started officially bumpin it
god damn this into is nuts
where ?
u aint listening 2 it yet?
i got most of the songs. not all.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:02:42 PM
WOW T.I. went OFF on I'm Illy!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 06:04:29 PM
classic material you considered this album a classic before even hearing it! but i aint hating it i'm playing it now and so far its banging. looking at the production list it's probably be more hit and miss after these first 4 tracks which are GREAT.
you are sadly mistaken. the songs that are out now plus the shit you ain't heard combined shapes up to be a classic.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:06:53 PM
wow if that ain't some real shit on "ready for whatever" i dunno what is
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 06:20:57 PM
wow if that ain't some real shit on "ready for whatever" i dunno what is
toomp did it ? drumma boy 3 ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:23:23 PM
wow if that ain't some real shit on "ready for whatever" i dunno what is
toomp did it ? drumma boy 3 ?
ready for whatever was drumma boy
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 06:29:29 PM
wow if that ain't some real shit on "ready for whatever" i dunno what is
toomp did it ? drumma boy 3 ?
ready for whatever was drumma boy
oh.... i'm guess the song is on some g shit.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:30:21 PM
^major..talkin' bout his gun case and shit - it's so dope
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 17, 2008, 06:31:10 PM
Luna do you know if "Let My Beat Pound" will be a bonus track ? I really want this track in good quality and surprised it didn't make the album
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
Luna do you know if "Let My Beat Pound" will be a bonus track ? I really want this track in good quality and surprised it didn't make the album
no idea
somethin' that leaked had 2 get cut
he cut that and like i do
good decisions imo
they wouldn't fit on the cd
but he should have kept like i do over porn star im hearing
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 17, 2008, 06:37:35 PM
Luna do you know if "Let My Beat Pound" will be a bonus track ? I really want this track in good quality and surprised it didn't make the album
no idea
somethin' that leaked had 2 get cut
he cut that and like i do
good decisions imo
they wouldn't fit on the cd
but he should have kept like i do over porn star im hearing

damn hopefully it becomes an iTunes bonus or one of the bonus tracks for Bestbuy or Target lol
i'm not going to listen to any more T.I. leaks until the grouprip leaks of the album that way I can hear it in the proper quality. When I listened to L.A.X. when it was clean and webrip I really thought the cd was just average but after the grouprip dropped that totaly changed my mind.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:38:48 PM
Luna do you know if "Let My Beat Pound" will be a bonus track ? I really want this track in good quality and surprised it didn't make the album
no idea
somethin' that leaked had 2 get cut
he cut that and like i do
good decisions imo
they wouldn't fit on the cd
but he should have kept like i do over porn star im hearing

damn hopefully it becomes an iTunes bonus or one of the bonus tracks for Bestbuy or Target lol
i'm not going to listen to any more T.I. leaks until the grouprip leaks of the album that way I can hear it in the proper quality. When I listened to L.A.X. when it was clean and webrip I really thought the cd was just average but after the grouprip dropped that totaly changed my mind.
it may, who knows
i also usually wait for grouprip's but this webrip is pretty good quality
u can wait though
this cd is fire dog, wow
all the haters who was originally anticipatin' this and had that go down are going to jump right back on the bandwagon
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 06:42:59 PM
Luna do you know if "Let My Beat Pound" will be a bonus track ? I really want this track in good quality and surprised it didn't make the album
no idea
somethin' that leaked had 2 get cut
he cut that and like i do
good decisions imo
they wouldn't fit on the cd
but he should have kept like i do over porn star im hearing
in a way i'm glad that track didn't make the cut. especially wit someone else having the beat(which was aight) in the first place.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 06:46:53 PM
^100% agreed
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 06:51:18 PM
based off the tracks i've heard so far. i'd say this album is classic. ''you ain't missin' nothin'' deserves hip hop quotable in the source. damn this shit is fire.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 07:04:35 PM
^ya wow, that song is somethin' special. the sax's is unreal and TI spittin real shit

16 songs of an album that will sell through the roof without a single cliche song rappin' about drugs or guns and y'all will still hate
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 07:07:15 PM
^ya wow, that song is somethin' special. the sax's is unreal and TI spittin real shit

16 songs of an album that will sell through the roof without a single cliche song rappin' about drugs or guns and y'all will still hate
i'd say so myself.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 17, 2008, 07:07:38 PM
so album of the year...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
so album of the year...
yup.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 07:10:47 PM
so album of the year...
listen 2 it and see wat u think
i bet u'll be shocked and it exceeds your expectations
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: MoodMuzik on September 17, 2008, 07:12:40 PM
so album of the year...
Lol hiphop had a bad year then
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 07:12:57 PM
so album of the year...
Lol hiphop had a bad year then
lol u know u want to hear it
drop ya thoughts after
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 17, 2008, 07:14:22 PM
so album of the year...
Lol hiphop had a bad year then

LOL! :laugh:

somebody link me...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 07:16:07 PM
so album of the year...
Lol hiphop had a bad year then
lol u know u want to hear it
drop ya thoughts after
shit might go over they heads.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 07:16:41 PM
^will see what there thoughts our (don't "hate" me or classic material and make up ya mind on this new T.I. cd b4 u even heard it - y'all know what i mean).
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 17, 2008, 07:59:54 PM
well i've heard 10 songs already (including the songs that leaked).

4-5/5 Tracks

1. Im Illy
2. No Matter What
3. Live Your Life
4. Dead And Gone
5. You Ain't Missing Nothing

3-4/5 Tracks

1. 56 bars
2. My Life, Your Entertainment
3. Swagga Like Us
4. Swing Ya Rag
5. On Top Of The World
6. What's Up, What's Happening

2.5 & Less/5 Tracks

1. Whatever You Like
2. Porn Star

Tracks Yet To Hear...

1. Ready For Whatever
2. Every Chance I Get
3. Slide Show

so far, its definatly not album of the year. i honestly dont think the three tracks i havent heard will make it album of the year either. was above my expectations, not going to lie. some hot joints, i dont know where the other three songs will sound like. Untitled & LAX > This. but unless im forgetting an album, ill rank it 3rd on the year with Snoop a close 4th (ill give the edge to PT over Ego Trippin'). it was impressive. this isnt my final view on it...i got three tracks left to bump, and it definatly has some replay value so things might grow...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 08:06:52 PM
well i've heard 10 songs already (including the songs that leaked).

4-5/5 Tracks

1. Im Illy
2. No Matter What
3. Live Your Life
4. Dead And Gone
5. You Ain't Missing Nothing

3-4/5 Tracks

1. 56 bars
2. My Life, Your Entertainment
3. Swagga Like Us
4. Swing Ya Rag
5. On Top Of The World
6. What's Up, What's Happening

2.5 & Less/5 Tracks

1. Whatever You Like
2. Porn Star

Tracks Yet To Hear...

1. Ready For Whatever
2. Every Chance I Get
3. Slide Show

so far, its definatly not album of the year. i honestly dont think the three tracks i havent heard will make it album of the year either. was above my expectations, not going to lie. some hot joints, i dont know where the other three songs will sound like. Untitled & LAX > This. but unless im forgetting an album, ill rank it 3rd on the year with Snoop a close 4th (ill give the edge to PT over Ego Trippin'). it was impressive. this isnt my final view on it...i got three tracks left to bump, and it definatly has some replay value so things might grow...
fuck outta here.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 08:08:53 PM
DJ Toomp produced 'every chance i get' !
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 08:17:11 PM
pretty sure this is the real tracklisting

1. 56 Bars
Prod. By DJ Toomp

2. I'm Illy
Prod. By DJ Toomp

3. Ready For Whatever
Prod. By Drumma Boy

4. On Top Of The World Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B.
Prod. By DJ Toomp

5. Live Your Life Ft. Rihanna
Prod. By Just Blaze

6. Whatever You Like
Prod. By Jim Jonsin

7. No Matter What
Prod. By Danja

8. My Life, Your Entertainment Ft. Usher
Prod. By Drumma Boy

9. Porn Star
Prod. By Jazze Pha

10. Swing Ya Rag
Prod. By Swizz Beats

11. What's Up, What's Happening
Prod. By Drumma Boy

12. Every Chance I Get
Prod. By DJ Toomp

13. Swagga Like Us W/ Jay-Z Ft. Lil Wayne & Kanye West
Prod. By Kanye West

14. Slide Show Ft. John Legend
Prod. By Kanye West

15. You Ain't Missing Nothing
Prod. By DJ Toomp

16. Dead & Gone Ft. Justin Timberlake
Prod. By Timbaland
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 17, 2008, 08:20:59 PM
the 3 songs u ain't hear yet are SICK
this album has less avg-bad songs than LAX did
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 17, 2008, 08:23:43 PM
Heres how I'd rate it:

1. 56 Bars - 9/10
2. I'm Illy - 10/10
3. Ready For Whatever - 9/10
4. On Top Of The World Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. - 10/10
5. Live Your Life Ft. Rihanna - 10/10
6. Whatever You Like - 7/10
7. No Matter What - - 10/10
8. My Life, Your Entertainment Ft. Usher - 9/10
9. Porn Star - 7/10
10. Swing Ya Rag - 9/10
11. What's Up, What's Happening - 9.5/10
12. Every Chance I Get - 9.5/10
13. Swagga Like Us W/ Jay-Z Ft. Lil Wayne & Kanye West - 8/10
14. Slide Show Ft. John Legend - 9/10
15. You Ain't Missing Nothing - 10/10
16. Dead & Gone Ft. Justin Timberlake - 9.5/10
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 08:23:55 PM
the 3 songs u ain't hear yet are SICK
this album has less avg-bad songs than LAX did
LOL.....check the credits. this album is a classic i even like the porno star joint.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 17, 2008, 08:30:40 PM
Im Illy >>> Your favorite rappers album. Got this shit on repeat heavy.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 17, 2008, 08:32:34 PM
Im Illy >>> Your favorite rappers album. Got this shit on repeat heavy.
LOL......
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 08:52:09 PM
the album is cool but as i suspected it kinda loses its way after a great opening 3/4 tracks. thats not to say its not a good album cause it is but i'm just not feeling most the tracks as much as those opening ones and a few others. now don't flame me guys cause its just an opinion :P

tip to classic material you come across as an idiot when you hate on anyone who doesn't instantly think this is a classic album. learn to accept and intelligently engage with other people's opinions. that dude above thought the majority of the cd was good/very/good excellent (as do i) so i don't see the problem. just maybe not a classic :P
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 17, 2008, 09:18:40 PM
the album is cool but as i suspected it kinda loses its way after a great opening 3/4 tracks. thats not to say its not a good album cause it is but i'm just not feeling most the tracks as much as those opening ones and a few others. now don't flame me guys cause its just an opinion :P

tip to classic material you come across as an idiot when you hate on anyone who doesn't instantly think this is a classic album. learn to accept and intelligently engage with other people's opinions. that dude above thought the majority of the cd was good/very/good excellent (as do i) so i don't see the problem. just maybe not a classic :P


I dont wanna speak for my nigga Classic but thats not the problem tho. We not the ones saying yall can't have yall opinions of the shit. You got it backwards.  Its the fact that whenever Luna, Classic or I posts anything positive about TI, motherfuckers wanna claim we dickriding or we sweat TI. Its come to the point where niggas dont even seem to listen to the shit no more as soon as they see a new TI song they already made up their mind theyre gonna hate on it. After a while you start to feel like cats on here are lookin at shit biased. They just wanna claim the shits wack so they can talk reckless and fit in with everybody else here especially since the haters are the majority here.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 17, 2008, 09:35:02 PM
i just don't like seeing valid opinions getting brushed aside cause of some over the top fanboyism. it's pretty easy to tell when someone is hating for the sake of it or giving a balanced opinion. to be fair this was happening a crazy amount when game's album dropped. most neutral reviews got instantly dismissed as hating and biased against game over in westcoast land...

if you look at sheer amount of posts and the content of this thread then i think you might have a case for dickriding t.i. but its obvious you guys are fans and are excited about the project. that's completely cool but its not cool when anyone with even a slightly different opinion then gets hated on in return. it comes across like if you dont think this cd is an absolute classic get the fuck outta this thread your/opinion is worthless. and that is dickriding.

i'd give this album 7.5/10 right now...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Let's Get Down on September 18, 2008, 12:23:02 AM
Wow..."Ain't Missin Nothin" & "56 Bars" are both pretty dope!! Better than any recent snoop tracks i've heard. PT should be a solid album 8) But it's missin a Scott Storch beat.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: E-L-P on September 18, 2008, 12:32:55 AM
Pretty solid album, I'd say. "I'm Illy" is pretty fucking dope. "Officially, the hottest nigga rapping since Tupac".
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on September 18, 2008, 02:54:02 AM
I was expecting something crap because of what Ive heard leaked in the net but this is pretty coo cd
both singles with Rihanna and "Whatever U Like" are not that bad after several radio spins
I like most of the songs, not excellent songs but its coo to listen to
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 18, 2008, 02:57:21 AM
hook on "top of the world" is ridiculous

great song
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 18, 2008, 03:50:12 AM
I think this is a great mainstream album. Untiteld is still better but I'd easilly put this over L.A.X. Most of the people here are gonna hate on it because of Lunatic's and Classic Material's over quote-ing which is annyoing sometimes but you just have to look past that. I like that most of the album has songs with concept, production is really on point and T.I.'s flow and lyrics have improved drastically since T.I. Vs. T.I.P.

After 1st listen I devided the album in 3 categories:

a) Concept tracks : On Top Of The World (great vibe on this track, the hook is awsome), Ready For Whatever, Live Your Life (Rihaana is unecessary though), No Matter What, My Life Your Entertaiment, Slide Show, You Ain't Missing Nothin', Dead And Gone (wow at Justin's production talent)

b) Just spitting/bragging : 56 Bars, I'm Illy (Danja is a beast), What's Up What's Happenin, Every Chance I Get, Swagga Like Us

c) Alright tracks: Swing Ya Rag, Whatever You Like

d) Wack: Porn Star


Looks like him catching that case was the best thing that could happen to him artistic wise, lot's of introspective tracks.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 04:45:05 AM
I think this is a great mainstream album. Untiteld is still better but I'd easilly put this over L.A.X. Most of the people here are gonna hate on it because of Lunatic's and Classic Material's over quote-ing which is annyoing sometimes but you just have to look past that. I like that most of the album has songs with concept, production is really on point and T.I.'s flow and lyrics have improved drastically since T.I. Vs. T.I.P.

After 1st listen I devided the album in 3 categories:

a) Concept tracks : On Top Of The World (great vibe on this track, the hook is awsome), Ready For Whatever, Live Your Life (Rihaana is unecessary though), No Matter What, My Life Your Entertaiment, Slide Show, You Ain't Missing Nothin', Dead And Gone (wow at Justin's production talent)

b) Just spitting/bragging : 56 Bars, I'm Illy (Danja is a beast), What's Up What's Happenin, Every Chance I Get, Swagga Like Us

c) Alright tracks: Swing Ya Rag, Whatever You Like

d) Wack: Porn Star


Looks like him catching that case was the best thing that could happen to him artistic wise, lot's of introspective tracks.
I agree Untitled is better but this is better than LAX. Glad u could look past it and still enjoy this album. Prod really is on point and T.I. is really spitting on this. WOW at 4 Toomp beats :o 

Definitely better than TI VS TIP
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on September 18, 2008, 04:57:56 AM
TI Vs TIP was trash tho

I just give a second listen and "On Top Of The World" is def a banger, my fav track on it
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on September 18, 2008, 06:32:42 AM
Im gonna try and resist downloading the album till the grouprip is out, since otherwise ill play out the album before it's released, i've only heard the leaked tunes (thankfully quite a few were cut) and some of the ones which ive heard on youtube or zshare. The album sounds like its dope, the justin tune and b.o.b tunes are sick, Toomps got some monster beats, sounds like it gonna be just below King/ Trap Musik, guess i gotta hope the Grouprip comes out soon...

EDIT What happened to 'Collect Call'
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OchoCinco on September 18, 2008, 07:18:10 AM
its a decent album but my beef with it is that its way too pop/mtv rap...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 18, 2008, 09:14:48 AM


6.5/10

he has a problem with bringin it an entire album..been like that since im serious..he start the shit off excellent..then it goes down hill...

then his songs that was scraped from the album...release u will wonder why it didnt make it...oppose to some of the stuff that made it..

got some trunk action tho...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 09:45:47 AM
some of you niggas don't be even having no valid opinion. you're dumb as fuck if this album ain't tip at his best even under his circumstances. the lyrics are hot. the production is hot. and this is the album of the year. a classic.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R-Tistic on September 18, 2008, 09:53:39 AM
"Whatever you like" may be the major single everybody is on...but I like the energy that "Swing ya rag" has, and think it will have a longer appeal than "Whatever you like." Meaning...right now, WYL gets the best club reaction...but 2-3 years from now, Swing ya rag could still be used in clubs, while WYL will be hella played out and won't have that "hit." It's similar to how Sexual seduction may have been a bigger pop single...but Life of the party is the true club track that people can get off on.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 18, 2008, 10:32:30 AM
some of you niggas don't be even having no valid opinion. you're dumb as fuck if this album ain't tip at his best even under his circumstances. the lyrics are hot. the production is hot. and this is the album of the year. a classic.

Haven't heard "Paper Trail" yet but for me Tip at his best would probably be "Trap Muzik" or "King"
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 18, 2008, 10:34:17 AM
some of you niggas don't be even having no valid opinion. you're dumb as fuck if this album ain't tip at his best even under his circumstances. the lyrics are hot. the production is hot. and this is the album of the year. a classic.

Haven't heard "Paper Trail" yet but for me Tip at his best would probably be "Trap Muzik" or "King"

agreed.. i dont like his new flow.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 18, 2008, 10:34:38 AM
I keep laughing at this:

Ordering ? and lobster
celebrating coming from nothing
to winning Grammys and rappers winning Oscars (yeeah!)
And they say rapper shouldn't act, nah suckers
we see Samuel L.Jackson
like "WHATS UP MOTHAFUCKA!"


It's the way he says it, Luda is the shit.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 18, 2008, 10:41:40 AM
chea ^

i thought so too but didnt mention it cause i didnt want this to get to a luda vs ti thing

but he killed that track. tis part was dull imo
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
the album is cool but as i suspected it kinda loses its way after a great opening 3/4 tracks. thats not to say its not a good album cause it is but i'm just not feeling most the tracks as much as those opening ones and a few others. now don't flame me guys cause its just an opinion :P

tip to classic material you come across as an idiot when you hate on anyone who doesn't instantly think this is a classic album. learn to accept and intelligently engage with other people's opinions. that dude above thought the majority of the cd was good/very/good excellent (as do i) so i don't see the problem. just maybe not a classic :P

i call everything how it is seen. i voiced my opinion you voiced yours. i'm buying it, whatever you do is ya buisness. btw you and anybody wit an opinion about me is useless. you don't know me and vice versa. let's keep it that way.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 10:46:15 AM
chea ^

i thought so too but didnt mention it cause i didnt want this to get to a luda vs ti thing

but he killed that track. tis part was dull imo
both of them did they thing on that song. tip's verses was sharp.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 10:51:19 AM
some of you niggas don't be even having no valid opinion. you're dumb as fuck if this album ain't tip at his best even under his circumstances. the lyrics are hot. the production is hot. and this is the album of the year. a classic.

Haven't heard "Paper Trail" yet but for me Tip at his best would probably be "Trap Muzik" or "King"
he spitting on this new shit.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
Wow..."Ain't Missin Nothin" & "56 Bars" are both pretty dope!! Better than any recent snoop tracks i've heard. PT should be a solid album 8) But it's missin a Scott Storch beat.
LOL....
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 10:54:15 AM
some of you niggas don't be even having no valid opinion. you're dumb as fuck if this album ain't tip at his best even under his circumstances. the lyrics are hot. the production is hot. and this is the album of the year. a classic.

Haven't heard "Paper Trail" yet but for me Tip at his best would probably be "Trap Muzik" or "King"

agreed.. i dont like his new flow.
it just gets better and better.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 10:57:51 AM
this album is the album his fans (such as me) have been waiting for since Trap Muzik i'd say. This is about on par with King so far.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 11:12:48 AM
this album is the album his fans (such as me) have been waiting for since Trap Muzik i'd say. This is about on par with King so far.
yes sir.
Title: Re: Paper Trail Tracklisting
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 11:15:56 AM
pretty sure this is the real tracklisting

1. 56 Bars
Prod. By DJ Toomp

2. I'm Illy
Prod. By DJ Toomp

3. Ready For Whatever
Prod. By Drumma Boy

4. On Top Of The World Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B.
Prod. By DJ Toomp

5. Live Your Life Ft. Rihanna
Prod. By Just Blaze

6. Whatever You Like
Prod. By Jim Jonsin

7. No Matter What
Prod. By Danja

8. My Life, Your Entertainment Ft. Usher
Prod. By Drumma Boy

9. Porn Star
Prod. By Jazze Pha

10. Swing Ya Rag
Prod. By Swizz Beats

11. What's Up, What's Happening
Prod. By Drumma Boy

12. Every Chance I Get
Prod. By DJ Toomp

13. Swagga Like Us W/ Jay-Z Ft. Lil Wayne & Kanye West
Prod. By Kanye West

14. Slide Show Ft. John Legend
Prod. By Kanye West

15. You Ain't Missing Nothing
Prod. By DJ Toomp

16. Dead & Gone Ft. Justin Timberlake
Prod. By Timbaland
5 toomp beats damn !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on September 18, 2008, 11:20:42 AM
when the GroupRip leaks I'ma check it
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 11:41:02 AM
so Jazze Pha did Porn Star, cool

Toomp did I'm Illy? I thought it was Danja?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 18, 2008, 11:49:03 AM
So the leak(s) is/are proper?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 11:49:36 AM
So the leak(s) is/are proper?
webrip - quality is pretty good
it is 100% the retail version to be sold in stores
not as good quality i guess
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 11:50:15 AM
so Jazze Pha did Porn Star, cool

Toomp did I'm Illy? I thought it was Danja?
toomp did illy. has toomp signature all over it
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 11:50:56 AM
so Jazze Pha did Porn Star, cool

Toomp did I'm Illy? I thought it was Danja?
toomp did illy. has toomp signature all over it
alright i'll take ya word for it
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 11:52:07 AM
So the leak(s) is/are proper?
webrip - quality is pretty good
it is 100% the retail version to be sold in stores
not as good quality i guess
i can't wait to cop the cd. 'live your life' sounds even better towards the end of the song.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 11:53:13 AM
so Jazze Pha did Porn Star, cool

Toomp did I'm Illy? I thought it was Danja?
toomp did illy. has toomp signature all over it
alright i'll take ya word for it
listen to the snare real close.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 11:54:25 AM
So the leak(s) is/are proper?
webrip - quality is pretty good
it is 100% the retail version to be sold in stores
not as good quality i guess
i can't wait to cop the cd. 'live your life' sounds even better towards the end of the song.
ya 'live your life' is hot - man i can't get over how dope these are: i'm illy, ready for whatever, on top of the world, 56 bars, every chance i get, slide show, you ain't missin' nothin, dead/gone

plus the leaked 1s that were so hot already (no matter what, whats haapnin, etc)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 11:57:46 AM
So the leak(s) is/are proper?
webrip - quality is pretty good
it is 100% the retail version to be sold in stores
not as good quality i guess
i can't wait to cop the cd. 'live your life' sounds even better towards the end of the song.
ya 'live your life' is hot - man i can't get over how dope these are: i'm illy, ready for whatever, on top of the world, 56 bars, every chance i get, slide show, you ain't missin' nothin, dead/gone

plus the leaked 1s that were so hot already (no matter what, whats haapnin, etc)
hell yeah. 'every chance i get' is blazin' too. toomp is a monster.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 12:00:07 PM
^i'm so glad T.I. got so many damn Toomp beats on this - the best/consistent producer in the game
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 12:04:12 PM
^i'm so glad T.I. got so many damn Toomp beats on this - the best/consistent producer in the game
5 of them damn things.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 18, 2008, 12:04:44 PM
ok, I'll check.

Did all the leaked tracks make the cut?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 12:06:01 PM
ok, I'll check.

Did all the leaked tracks make the cut?
nope
"like i do" feat. the dream got cut
so did "let my beat pound"
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 12:12:26 PM
we still don't know who does that hook on "porn star" though.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OchoCinco on September 18, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
You guys are in heaven listen to a new T.I album arent you lol :D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 12:20:29 PM
You guys are in heaven listen to a new T.I album arent you lol :D
you know it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 12:21:29 PM
we still don't know who does that hook on "porn star" though.
who is it ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 12:27:17 PM
its a decent album but my beef with it is that its way too pop/mtv rap...
which songs are pop/mtv besides w.e u like and live your life? the songs with usher, john legend and justin timberlake (songs ppl all thought were going to be pop) are not
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OchoCinco on September 18, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
those songs were first that came into my head but i can honestly say that after givin it a full through listen i actually like most of it...album gets like a 8/10 from me....happy?lol

and he would be better if he tried switchin his flow up a bit... he ever rap fast? besides hurt
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 12:33:18 PM
those songs were first that came into my head but i can honestly say that after givin it a full through listen i actually like most of it...album gets like a 8/10 from me....happy?lol
lol its not about me bein happy, it's just what it is - ppl gon' think tracks with legend/usher/j.t. are on some bs and make they mind up b4 even hearin' it - in reality those 3 songs are great and have real good concepts/messages 2 them

it's about what reality is and what's real
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 18, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
ok, I'll check.

Did all the leaked tracks make the cut?
nope
"like i do" feat. the dream got cut
so did "let my beat pound"

Could you pm me those, I know u got em ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 12:43:54 PM
^i'll post them here
there leftovers, don't think it'll be a problem

Like I Do Ft. The Dream
Prod. By Jazze Pha
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1900477944a6a03d/

Let My Beat Pound
Prod. By Jonathan "JR" Rotem
http://www.zshare.net/audio/19004848ad8a2e66/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 18, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Props
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 01:40:34 PM
Props
no doubt!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 03:13:04 PM
this album is flames !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 18, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
when the GroupRip leaks I'ma check it
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 18, 2008, 04:32:24 PM
classic? ???
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OchoCinco on September 18, 2008, 04:33:56 PM
classic? ???

not close but a dec album
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 18, 2008, 04:44:02 PM
classic? ???

not close but a dec album

agreed.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 18, 2008, 04:44:26 PM
classic? ???
classic !!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 18, 2008, 05:58:40 PM
'brawds hit they knees, eyes closed when they greet me, mouth wide open just beggin me to skeet skeet, ya in a deep sleep, stop dreamin, six albums in for ten years i been fire hot steamin, the lime light's mine, im gleamin, beamin, why i say im king? bitch i got my reasons'
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: sav on September 18, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
"I'm Illy" is a fuckin' banger.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: 1 Mizzick on September 18, 2008, 10:47:57 PM
meeeeh, this shit was cool but def not classic or anything else. im suprised how none of yall comaplin about the chick/rnb type songs but when other rappers do it you complain.

imo untitled, lax, carter 3 (and i dont even like wayne) > paper trail > the recession > t.o.s.


aaaand....3....2...1....here comes Bigg Faggot and/or classicmaterial... ;D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on September 19, 2008, 01:52:42 AM
LOL

paper trail after first listen >>>>>>>>>>>>> carter III
matter of fact, dead and gone >>>>>> carter III

jay z came sick on his verse
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 02:30:44 AM
I really like that Dream song... gives me a michael jackson vibe for some reason...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Trav Treezy on September 19, 2008, 04:00:25 AM
That song "what up what's happenin" is my shit. If shawty lo and ti was still beefing he would put the nail in the coffin with that song and especially the video. He did it in Bowen Homes hahahaha
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:42:07 AM
im suprised how none of yall comaplin about the chick/rnb type songs but when other rappers do it you complain.
because there's only 2 of them ???  w.e u like and porn star
just because a song has john legend, usher, justin timberlake on it, doesn't automatically mean it's a chick/r&b song - actually listen to those records ::)

lol at anyone thinkin' the carter 3 was better than this
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 19, 2008, 05:44:49 AM
I really like that Dream song... gives me a michael jackson vibe for some reason...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 19, 2008, 05:47:41 AM
meeeeh, this shit was cool but def not classic or anything else. im suprised how none of yall comaplin about the chick/rnb type songs but when other rappers do it you complain.

imo untitled, lax, carter 3 (and i dont even like wayne) > paper trail > the recession > t.o.s.


aaaand....3....2...1....here comes Bigg Faggot and/or classicmaterial... ;D
all those albums you named this album tops them. the chick songs aren't bad it's only two. btw 'live your life' is incredible.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 19, 2008, 07:11:55 AM
Listened once now, didn't really like "Whatever You Like" and that gay sample on Live Your Life. Rest is cool. Will listen "deeper" next time.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 19, 2008, 10:00:32 AM
meeeeh, this shit was cool but def not classic or anything else. im suprised how none of yall comaplin about the chick/rnb type songs but when other rappers do it you complain.

imo untitled, lax, carter 3 (and i dont even like wayne) > paper trail > the recession > t.o.s.


aaaand....3....2...1....here comes Bigg Faggot and/or classicmaterial... ;D

LOL! Havent you learned after stalking Trav that the shit makes you look dumb? Youre entitled to your opinion its just that at this point nobody with a brain on this site gives a rats ass about it. And please stay off my dick. Go jerk off to your LAX cover or something. Im done with your bitch ass.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: DazDilly on September 19, 2008, 10:24:28 AM
T.I. hasn't dropped a decent album since Urban Legend, and that whole album was saved by Daz gracing his prescene on one song.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 19, 2008, 10:37:40 AM
T.I. hasn't dropped a decent album since Urban Legend, and that whole album was saved by Daz gracing his prescene on one song.
LOL. urban legend was fire are you serious ? shorty b saved daz so called presence by co producing that song. and daz hasn't had anything that hot since the death row days. his own cousin(snoop dogg) don't even fuck wit his beats no more. he hasn't fucked wit daz beats since tha doggfather. LMFAO.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 19, 2008, 10:42:01 AM
T.I. hasn't dropped a decent album since Urban Legend, and that whole album was saved by Daz gracing his prescene on one song.

Haha, how's life in the 90's?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 10:48:07 AM
listen to the lyrics on songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, ready for whatever, dead/gone, slide show, you ain't missin' nothin' - Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right - actually LISTEN to this album lyrically and try and argue that.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
T.I. Takes A Leak....Knocks Expectations Out The Park!

Posted on September 18, 2008 10:59 AM


Last night Tip's new album Paper Trail leaked on the internet. I am actually surprised that it took this long, but alas it's out there and is probably being downloaded at lightening speed.
We all remember what happened the last time I put you all onto the location of the link, so I will not be doing that again, ever.
And I guess since me and Mr. Harris are cool it wouldn't be the best idea to even give you all hints like I usually do. SOHH Let's just say its out, and if you are computer savvy then I have every confidence that you'll find it.
However, after listening to Tips new album in it's entirety, I've got to give the man props, because the project is quite good! Wayne calls his himself the "greatest rapper alive", Jay-Z insists he's the "best rapper alive", but Clifford Harris, Jr. might actually be the best of the best as it relates to the south.
My favorite cut from the album is titled "Every Chance I Get". The Toomp produced track is classic TI with enough swagger and confidence in the lyrical content and delivery to stay on repeat in my ipod for at least two weeks.
It's clear that he took the frustration and stress from his life and focused it into the music. The 15 track project is packed with bonafied hits.
SOHH far this year, there hasn't been one hip-hop album that's been executed as properly as Paper Trail.
Though Lil' Wayne's album is presently dominating the Billboard charts, it's clear that The Carter III can't hold a flame to Tip's new album as far as production and delivery.
Paper Trail seems to also be echoing the embattled rappers current mantra of "piece and positivity". In the true essence of the words, Cliff has reunited with legendary beat maker Toomp on four tracks for this album. It's clear that they have settled their beefs between each other.
You won't find any rap beefs, or pot shots taken at anybody. I didn't hear that other Bankhead rapper's mentioned on any other song outside of "No Matter What".
T.I. seems to be on a whole other level in terms of his music delivery.
Anyone who know reads SOHH Atlanta understands that I am very crticial of today's hip-hop music. As a fan, I want to be surprised, inspired and down right excited to buy ones music. Alot of rappers haven't been able to pull that off as of late.
But thankfully for me T.I. isn't one of them!
Though I know a lot of people are going to be downloading the "King's" newest album illegally, hopefully you'll all will still support his music with your wallets on September 30th.
I mean, shouldn't good music be rewarded?
Talk to y'all lata
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 19, 2008, 11:08:33 AM
listen to the lyrics on songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, ready for whatever, dead/gone, slide show, you ain't missin' nothin' - Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right - actually LISTEN to this album lyrically and try and argue that.
lyrically tip advanced on cats.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 19, 2008, 02:05:31 PM
niggas still listening to the web rip?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Jome on September 19, 2008, 02:27:02 PM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Explicit)-2008-AIE
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 02:30:39 PM
You won't find any rap beefs, or pot shots taken at anybody.

::) did he miss what up?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 02:45:40 PM
You won't find any rap beefs, or pot shots taken at anybody.

::) did he miss what up?
i didn't say that?  ???
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 02:48:23 PM
grouprip has leaked
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 02:54:16 PM
You won't find any rap beefs, or pot shots taken at anybody.

::) did he miss what up?
i didn't say that?  ???

in that review you posted
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 02:55:13 PM
You won't find any rap beefs, or pot shots taken at anybody.

::) did he miss what up?
i didn't say that?  ???

in that review you posted
i haven't reviewed this cd yet ???  someone must have changed my quote..
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OchoCinco on September 19, 2008, 02:57:15 PM
im suprised how none of yall comaplin about the chick/rnb type songs but when other rappers do it you complain.
because there's only 2 of them ???  w.e u like and porn star
just because a song has john legend, usher, justin timberlake on it, doesn't automatically mean it's a chick/r&b song - actually listen to those records ::)

lol at anyone thinkin' the carter 3 was better than this

that rhianna song wasnt a chick song to u??? that shit was ultra pop
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 03:02:35 PM
^how is a song about living your life, taking life for granted etc. a "chick" song?  ???
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OchoCinco on September 19, 2008, 03:07:56 PM
i just consider those mtv tunes chick songs
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 03:12:58 PM
i just consider those mtv tunes chick songs
lol well it ain't a chick song - the subject matter is good and positive.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 03:13:39 PM
listening now... Ready For Whatever and On Top of the World are fucking amazing

can't wait to hear these in the ride
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 03:14:32 PM
listening now... Ready For Whatever and On Top of the World are fucking amazing

can't wait to hear these in the ride
those 2 tracks are super hot; don't sleep on the first 2 as well (intro and im illy)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Avalanche on September 19, 2008, 03:34:14 PM
sure aie is a group rip? no pic of the actual cd...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 03:37:52 PM
the one i found wasnt actually a grouprip.. or if it was it was a bad one. no tags, wrong tracklist,and the rip of one of the songs is kinda messed up:

Code: [Select]
T.I. - Paper Trail

ARTIST.....: T.I.
TITLE......: Paper Trail
LABEL......: Atlantic
RIP DATE...: Sep-17-2008
STORE DATE.: Sep-30-2008
GENRE......: Hip-Hop
QUALITY....: VBR   /  44.1Hz  /  Joint-Stereo
SIZE.......: 108,1 MB


Track Listing:

01 - 56 Barz                                    03:04
02 - Dead and Gone                              05:00
03 - Every Chance I Get                         04:50
04 - Im Illy                                    04:07
05 - Live Your Life (Ft. Rihanna)               05:39
06 - My Life, Your Entertainment (Ft. Usher)    05:00
07 - No Matter What                             04:42
08 - On Top of the World (Ft. Ludacris & B.O.B) 04:57
09 - Porn Star                                  03:32
10 - Ready for Whatever                         05:13
11 - Slide Show (Ft. John Legend)               03:43
12 - Swagga Like Us                             05:28
     (Ft. Kanye West, Jay-Z, Lil Wayne)
13 - Swing Ya Rag (Ft. Swizz Beatz)             03:20
14 - What Up, Whats Haapnin                     05:01
15 - Whatever You Like                          04:10
16 - You Ain't Missin Nothing                   05:10

                                                -----
                                                70:56 min
Release Notes:

Brought to you By kid Lo 27 / un1t27
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 03:40:59 PM
ok, I'll check.

Did all the leaked tracks make the cut?
nope
"like i do" feat. the dream got cut
so did "let my beat pound"

"collect call" too
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 03:41:16 PM
^that's fucked up..the 1 i got was right tracklist and all, but the quality itself doesn't sound any better than the webrip imo

im'a upload the intro - y'all tell me if u see a difference between it's quality and the webrip quality and let me know if its real grouprip - i always have a tough time tellin' the difference

56 bars intro prod by dj toomp
http://www.zshare.net/audio/190695517b830804/

notice a difference?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 03:41:45 PM
ok, I'll check.

Did all the leaked tracks make the cut?
nope
"like i do" feat. the dream got cut
so did "let my beat pound"
"collect call" too
he asked about leaked tracks.."collect call" never leaked.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 03:48:51 PM
ok, I'll check.

Did all the leaked tracks make the cut?
nope
"like i do" feat. the dream got cut
so did "let my beat pound"
"collect call" too
he asked about leaked tracks.."collect call" never leaked.

my bad.

i cant tell a difference between your 56 bars and mine

I'm downloadin the AIE one now.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 19, 2008, 03:54:39 PM
198kbps (VBR) is the quality of the one I have



Livin your Life; 3.5 min of talking/hook before he spits a verse?  this the real version?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:05:10 PM
^lol at 3.5 mins
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 04:12:32 PM
198kbps (VBR) is the quality of the one I have



Livin your Life; 3.5 min of talking/hook before he spits a verse?  this the real version?

thats the same one i had. its not 3.5 mins, the time is just fucked up on it. if you skip to the end of the song it played past the ending mark

anyway, just finished the album. pretty good. probably his second or third best. I'll have to give Trap Muzik and KING relistens to decide. Wish "Like I Do" was on the album instead of Porn Star. There's some filler, but this is a really solid cd. Biggest disappointment was the John Legend track.. beat is crap.

I stand by my comments on his new flow/delivery. his super high/soft voice is weak. he should stick to his I'm illy and ready for whatever voices. he sounds corny the other way.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:18:01 PM
anyway, just finished the album. pretty good. probably his second or third best. I'll have to give Trap Muzik and KING relistens to decide. Wish "Like I Do" was on the album instead of Porn Star. There's some filler, but this is a really solid cd. Biggest disappointment was the John Legend track.. beat is crap.

I stand by my comments on his new flow/delivery. his super high/soft voice is weak. he should stick to his I'm illy/ready for whatever/"raspy"
flow most of the time. he sounds corny the other way imo
it's probably his 2nd best imo. definitely not better than trap muzik..it's def better than i'm serious, urban legend and ti vs tip..those had more filler. king and this are close but i think king had more filler (stand up guy, hello, swizz beats track)..the only song i'd classify as filler on this is porn star.

really on the john legend 1? i love that song; cool kanye west beat, great singin' from legend and TI spits real shit on it.

just curious, what did u find filler besides porn star?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 19, 2008, 04:18:25 PM
well I after listening to the AIE version which is supposed to be a grouprip I gotta say...i'll deffinetely be copping this when it drops  8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 04:27:16 PM
anyway, just finished the album. pretty good. probably his second or third best. I'll have to give Trap Muzik and KING relistens to decide. Wish "Like I Do" was on the album instead of Porn Star. There's some filler, but this is a really solid cd. Biggest disappointment was the John Legend track.. beat is crap.

I stand by my comments on his new flow/delivery. his super high/soft voice is weak. he should stick to his I'm illy/ready for whatever/"raspy"
flow most of the time. he sounds corny the other way imo
it's probably his 2nd best imo. definitely not better than trap muzik..it's def better than i'm serious, urban legend and ti vs tip..those had more filler. king and this are close but i think king had more filler (stand up guy, hello, swizz beats track)..the only song i'd classify as filler on this is porn star.

really on the john legend 1? i love that song; cool kanye west beat, great singin' from legend and TI spits real shit on it.

just curious, what did u find filler besides porn star?


I'm Illy  -> not BAD by any means, but he has alot of songs like this and its the weakest
Whatever You Like -> self explanatory. its a hit, but I prefer "Like I Do"
Porn Star --> weak attempt at a neptunes style slow track
Slide Show --> will probably grow on me but I don't like the melody of it

Thats basically it... I'm not a big fan of 56 barz or every chance I get, but they've already begun to grow on me. It's hard to give accurate ratings for songs when you've just heard them. Gotta meditate on it first.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:30:44 PM
I'm Illy  -> not BAD by any means, but he has alot of songs like this and its the weakest
Whatever You Like -> self explanatory. its a hit, but I prefer "Like I Do"
Porn Star --> weak attempt at a neptunes style slow track
Slide Show --> will probably grow on me but I don't like the melody of it

Thats basically it... I'm not a big fan of 56 barz or every chance I get, but they've already begun to grow on me. It's hard to give accurate ratings for songs when you've just heard them. Gotta meditate on it first.
DAMN - I'm Illy is 1 of my fav tracks - he is SPITTING on that 1 - that might be his best lyrically imo on this cd - it'll probably grow on u
can't blame u on whatever u like or porn star
i love slide show as stated

56 bars is dope lyrically as well
every change i get has such a sick hook, wow - this reminds me of a trap muzik cut - this song has grown on me like crazy

ya i ain't ratin' songs individually yet either but i will soon
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 04:35:24 PM
I'm Illy  -> not BAD by any means, but he has alot of songs like this and its the weakest
Whatever You Like -> self explanatory. its a hit, but I prefer "Like I Do"
Porn Star --> weak attempt at a neptunes style slow track
Slide Show --> will probably grow on me but I don't like the melody of it

Thats basically it... I'm not a big fan of 56 barz or every chance I get, but they've already begun to grow on me. It's hard to give accurate ratings for songs when you've just heard them. Gotta meditate on it first.
DAMN - I'm Illy is 1 of my fav tracks - he is SPITTING on that 1 - that might be his best lyrically imo on this cd - it'll probably grow on u
can't blame u on whatever u like or porn star
i love slide show as stated

56 bars is dope lyrically as well
every change i get has such a sick hook, wow - this reminds me of a trap muzik cut - this song has grown on me like crazy

ya i ain't ratin' songs individually yet either but i will soon

Yeah, I already like every chance i get. I think the problem was on first listen, it was like "another song like this?", but its a good song on its own merits. I'm Illy reminds me more of Trap Muzik, tho. He raps good on it, but the beat annoys me so I'm just not a fan.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:37:52 PM
Yeah, I already like every chance i get. I think the problem was on first listen, it was like "another song like this?", but its a good song on its own merits. I'm Illy reminds me more of Trap Muzik, tho. He raps good on it, but the beat annoys me so I'm just not a fan.
I feel that on 'every chance i get.'

I'm Illy is so dope lyrically..i love that beat..still confused over who did it though..it sounds like toomp but i'm hearing storch did it ???

Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 19, 2008, 04:39:23 PM
^lol at 3.5 mins


ttrack is listed at 5:39, he does not rap until the 4:29 mark



shit goes on for 7min then just cuts off
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 04:40:20 PM
Yeah, I already like every chance i get. I think the problem was on first listen, it was like "another song like this?", but its a good song on its own merits. I'm Illy reminds me more of Trap Muzik, tho. He raps good on it, but the beat annoys me so I'm just not a fan.
I feel that on 'every chance i get.'

I'm Illy is so dope lyrically..i love that beat..still confused over who did it though..it sounds like toomp but i'm hearing storch did it ???



nahhh its definitely Toomp.

edit: I actually completely forgot about My Life, Your Entertainment. Complete filler. It's a shame cause lyrically its a good song but musically its forgettable (as evidenced).
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:42:19 PM
nahhh its definitely Toomp.

edit: I actually completely forgot about My Life, Your Entertainment. Complete filler. It's a shame cause lyrically its a good song but musically its forgettable (as evidenced).
that's what i'm sayin' (toomp did it).

I can see why u say that bout MLYE. I say no simply because the lyrics are great and i like the concept and Usher does a good job on it. Drumma Boy came weak on that beat though.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 19, 2008, 04:42:42 PM
I still can't decide who did I'm Illy ---> on one hand the basic melody has that space-ish voice thing which is Danja's style but on the other hand the beat is quite simple; no background elements that Danja always uses.

MLYE is dope but like Lilve Your Life, Usher's verse is unnecesary.
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Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 04:48:00 PM
imo you can tell completely by the sound of the synths that its toomp.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:52:01 PM
i seen ppl sayin' i'm illy is by danja, toomp, or storch lol..i could see how it's toomp..cud be danja i guess..can't predict storch beats anymore (he got a new sound seems) but i seen his name pop up 2
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 04:52:43 PM
MLYE is dope but like Lilve Your Life, Usher's verse is unnecesary.
I also like it but cud see why sum may not
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Post by: Black Excellence on September 19, 2008, 04:58:23 PM
dj toomp did 'i'm illy' listen close you'll hear toomp's trademark cymbal tappng also you'll hear it on 'every chance i get' and the intro. 'my life, your ent.' is hot. and porno isn't bad i think it's a cool track actually. i've listened to the whole album so far and it's not a wack song on this album.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 05:03:33 PM
^porn star has grown on me cause i like the beat and the hook; it's still the worst song on the album though - like a 6.5/10 probably.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 19, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
^porn star has grown on me cause i like the beat and the hook; it's still the worst song on the album though - like a 6.5/10 probably.
my main thing before ever hearing this album was how the lyrics would be affected but this album exceeded my expectations. the lyrics are as sharp as ever and the production is fresh and innovative. btw that song with john legend is fire too. kanye laced that. i say it's the album of the year.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 05:23:57 PM
^porn star has grown on me cause i like the beat and the hook; it's still the worst song on the album though - like a 6.5/10 probably.
my main thing before ever hearing this album was how the lyrics would be affected but this album exceeded my expectations. the lyrics are as sharp as ever and the production is fresh and innovative. btw that song with john legend is fire too. kanye laced that. i say it's the album of the year.
ya he brought it lyrically. i love the john legend track. he named it 'paper trail' cause lyrics and boy was he on point with the title.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: D1G1T4L on September 19, 2008, 06:23:42 PM
Lunatic 63 how many T.I. posters do you have in your room?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 06:24:37 PM
Lunatic 63 how many T.I. posters do you have in your room?
o - i ain't got no posters in my room, fool.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: zilla on September 19, 2008, 06:36:56 PM
he named it 'paper trail' cause lyrics and boy was he on point with the title.

huh?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 06:39:28 PM
he named it 'paper trail' cause lyrics and boy was he on point with the title.

huh?
T.I. named this album "paper trail" because he was once again writing lyrics down on "paper" (something he hasn't done his last 3 albums or so) hence the title and hence the idea that this album is supposed to be more lyrical from him - and it is.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Retro on September 19, 2008, 06:50:13 PM
ok wow so when i first heard "swagga like us" i didnt like it, but after  8) its crazy
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 06:58:45 PM
ok wow so when i first heard "swagga like us" i didnt like it, but after  8) its crazy
jigga, weezy, tip killed that shit - kanye came pretty weak (few good lines here and there) but he provided a dope beat and great sample hook.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Reventón Bogotá Rolla on September 19, 2008, 07:23:26 PM
I still can't decide who did I'm Illy ---> on one hand the basic melody has that space-ish voice thing which is Danja's style but on the other hand the beat is quite simple; no background elements that Danja always uses.

MLYE is dope but like Lilve Your Life, Usher's verse is unnecesary.

DEFINITELY not danja, the beat is too simple...

I say thoomp or a no name
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 07:26:25 PM
^T.I. ain't fuckin' with any no namers lol

Toomp or Storch

surprised Khao, Keith Mack, Tony Galvin (Grand Hustle in-house guys) have no beats on this - C-Gutta at least has 1.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 19, 2008, 07:33:47 PM
ok wow so when i first heard "swagga like us" i didnt like it, but after  8) its crazy
jigga, weezy, tip killed that shit - kanye came pretty weak (few good lines here and there) but he provided a dope beat and great sample hook.

NAHHHHHH

jay was aight
tip was on point

weezy and kanye were terrible. im sorry, but this song shouldve been an event. tis the only one that tried.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 07:35:00 PM
NAHHHHHH

jay was aight
tip was on point

weezy and kanye were terrible. im sorry, but this song shouldve been an event. tis the only one that tried.
I likes Jigga on it
TIP KILLED it
I didn't like Weezy at first, but some of his lines were hot - 'write ya name on the bullet make u feel special' 'runnin this shit like i got four thighs' 'my juels blue and yellow, the type of shit that make them call u carmelo' i liked that haha!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: MoodMuzik on September 19, 2008, 07:45:26 PM
average album
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: MoodMuzik on September 19, 2008, 07:45:44 PM
yo jome cmon man unlock my thread
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 07:46:26 PM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: MoodMuzik on September 19, 2008, 07:48:23 PM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 07:49:41 PM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
i got cha - the praise for it is the same all around - wordofsouth, sohh, etc.
definitely better than his last cd
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Laconic on September 19, 2008, 07:50:20 PM
I might give this a listen if he's actually speaking some real shit.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 19, 2008, 07:50:30 PM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album

no doubt its better...but word, kinda overrated. its cool...but not this classic album response i keep feelin its getting...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 07:55:04 PM
I might give this a listen if he's actually speaking some real shit.
tracks like ready for whatever, my life your entertainment, no matter what, slide show, dead/gone, you ain't missin' nothin' are on some real shit - songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, what up, every change i get are just too dope and lyrical to avoid or hate on. on top of the world with ludacris is a big record 2.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Laconic on September 19, 2008, 07:59:14 PM
I might give this a listen if he's actually speaking some real shit.
tracks like ready for whatever, my life your entertainment, no matter what, slide show, dead/gone, you ain't missin' nothin' are on some real shit - songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, what up, every change i get are just too dope and lyrical to avoid or hate on. on top of the world with ludacris is a big record 2.

I'll check the former and go from there.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 07:59:58 PM
I might give this a listen if he's actually speaking some real shit.
tracks like ready for whatever, my life your entertainment, no matter what, slide show, dead/gone, you ain't missin' nothin' are on some real shit - songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, what up, every change i get are just too dope and lyrical to avoid or hate on. on top of the world with ludacris is a big record 2.

I'll check the former and go from there.  Thanks for the info.
what's the former? no problem!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Laconic on September 19, 2008, 08:01:57 PM
I might give this a listen if he's actually speaking some real shit.
tracks like ready for whatever, my life your entertainment, no matter what, slide show, dead/gone, you ain't missin' nothin' are on some real shit - songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, what up, every change i get are just too dope and lyrical to avoid or hate on. on top of the world with ludacris is a big record 2.

I'll check the former and go from there.  Thanks for the info.
what's the former? no problem!

The 1st tracks you listed.  If I dig those I'll check the others  ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 08:03:07 PM
I might give this a listen if he's actually speaking some real shit.
tracks like ready for whatever, my life your entertainment, no matter what, slide show, dead/gone, you ain't missin' nothin' are on some real shit - songs like 56 bars, i'm illy, what up, every change i get are just too dope and lyrical to avoid or hate on. on top of the world with ludacris is a big record 2.

I'll check the former and go from there.  Thanks for the info.
what's the former? no problem!

The 1st tracks you listed.  If I dig those I'll check the others  ;)
ok oh - i'm sure u will ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on September 19, 2008, 09:38:56 PM
Can somone hook up the songs that didmt make the album?? I never got to hear them.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 19, 2008, 09:45:43 PM
Can somone hook up the songs that didmt make the album?? I never got to hear them.
only 2 leaked leftovers so far

Like I Do Ft. The Dream
Prod. By Jazze Pha
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1900477944a6a03d/

Let My Beat Pound
Prod. By Jonathan "JR" Rotem
http://www.zshare.net/audio/19004848ad8a2e66/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on September 19, 2008, 10:33:51 PM
Can somone hook up the songs that didmt make the album?? I never got to hear them.
only 2 leaked leftovers so far

Like I Do Ft. The Dream
Prod. By Jazze Pha
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1900477944a6a03d/

Let My Beat Pound
Prod. By Jonathan "JR" Rotem
http://www.zshare.net/audio/19004848ad8a2e66/

Props Luna, The beat on "Let my beat pound" is fuckin dope, Dont know if i like the computer voice voice sounds yet.  Chill song tho.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 08:24:48 AM
^ya but im glad it got cut
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 09:05:36 AM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
you know what i say though ? i've listened to this album from top to bottom and this album is a classic. i've said it, tip proved it, and that's all. every song on this shit i like. lyrically and productionwise he created a beautiful body of work. and to people sayin' the i'm illy beat is simple (among other things) dj toomp laced that beat and that joint is bananas.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 09:07:22 AM
^i'm illy beat is simple, but still sick. i actually like that it's a simple beat and i think that was done on purpose. T.I. is really spitting on this track and i think the point of it was to provide him a cool beat to do so - not a beat that was going to take attention away from the lyricism of this track.

the beat fits in perfect and draws your attention to T.I. lyrics which was 10/10 on point.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 09:09:51 AM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
it's not overrated at all. good music can't be denied no matter the region, artist, or genre music the artist makes. say what you want but to me this album is tip at his best and this album is album of the year. btw 'you ain't missin' nothin'= '08 'i ain't mad at cha'
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 09:17:01 AM
^i'm illy beat is simple, but still sick. i actually like that it's a simple beat and i think that was done on purpose. T.I. is really spitting on this track and i think the point of it was to provide him a cool beat to do so - not a beat that was going to take attention away from the lyricism of this track.

the beat fits in perfect and draws your attention to T.I. lyrics which was 10/10 on point.
it's musical as well. it rminds me of 'the ruler's back' from the blueprint. this album is epic !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 09:19:21 AM
^hell ya

this album as is good as a mainstream album can get
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 09:33:56 AM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
it's not overrated at all. good music can't be denied no matter the region, artist, or genre music the artist makes. say what you want but to me this album is tip at his best and this album is album of the year. btw 'you ain't missin' nothin'= '08 'i ain't mad at cha'

lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 10:20:09 AM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
it's not overrated at all. good music can't be denied no matter the region, artist, or genre of music the artist makes. say what you want but to me this album is tip at his best and this album is album of the year. btw 'you ain't missin' nothin'= '08 'i ain't mad at cha'

lol
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: D1G1T4L on September 20, 2008, 10:33:29 AM
so I just listened to the album and I am disappointed just like with the last album
He needs to stop using generic sounding beats that sound the same just like some young jeezy shit.. (ready for whatever/whats up whats happening... I just personally hate beats like this and how he raps on them)

IMO
He needs to make an album full of club bangers (like get loose/you dont know me/bring them out mixed with songs like I am serious (my favorite song of his) )

and if he is going to use slow songs/make slow beats dont make them sound like some rnb shit.. rap fast/flow like he does on dead and gone

back to urban legend......
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
IMO
He needs to make an album full of club bangers (like get loose/you dont know me/bring them out mixed with songs like I am serious (my favorite song of his) )
lol so he needs to be a sell out? he does a few club records and that's enough.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 10:41:28 AM
so I just listened to the album and I am disappointed just like with the last album
He needs to stop using generic sounding beats that sound the same just like some young jeezy shit.. (ready for whatever/whats up whats happening... I just personally hate beats like this and how he raps on them)

IMO
He needs to make an album full of club bangers (like get loose/you dont know me/bring them out mixed with songs like I am serious (my favorite song of his) )

and if he is going to use slow songs/make slow beats dont make them sound like some rnb shit.. rap fast/flow like he does on dead and gone

back to urban legend......
i usually try to cut fools some slack on they opinion. but the shit you just stated was bullshit. who in their right mind would want to hear a gangsta rapper make an album like you just described. those beats you claim you don't like are fire and the production is far from generic. that's drumma boy's signature. this album is hot and exceeded any t.i. fans expectations i'm quite sure. his flows on 'ready for whatever' and 'what up, what's haapnin' is incredible. i say you listen again.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
IMO
He needs to make an album full of club bangers (like get loose/you dont know me/bring them out mixed with songs like I am serious (my favorite song of his) )
lol so he needs to be a sell out? he does a few club records and that's enough.
some people don't know any better.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 20, 2008, 11:28:52 AM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
it's not overrated at all. good music can't be denied no matter the region, artist, or genre of music the artist makes. say what you want but to me this album is tip at his best and this album is album of the year. btw 'you ain't missin' nothin'= '08 'i ain't mad at cha'

lol
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.

just curious here, but uh....what does have to do with anything? lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 11:31:28 AM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
it's not overrated at all. good music can't be denied no matter the region, artist, or genre of music the artist makes. say what you want but to me this album is tip at his best and this album is album of the year. btw 'you ain't missin' nothin'= '08 'i ain't mad at cha'

lol
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.

just curious here, but uh....what does have to do with anything? lol
inside joke.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: 1 Mizzick on September 20, 2008, 11:46:14 AM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 11:47:05 AM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: NillerTheKid on September 20, 2008, 11:55:06 AM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Common, Game, Jay-Z, Lupé
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 20, 2008, 12:24:37 PM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Common, Game, Jay-Z, Lupé

and bun b and luda, probably others too can't think right now

i'm a big TI fan, and from what i've heard so far it sounds like a really good album. but yeah, i'd never say he's on the same level as nas. this album is probably top 3 or 5 of the year, but no way it's better than untitled, that's on another level than anything else out right now that was a classic imo.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 12:25:07 PM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Common, Game, Jay-Z, Lupé
Jay-Z ain't
Common yea
Lupe yea
This album is better than LAX
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 12:26:35 PM
and bun b and luda, probably others too can't think right now

i'm a big TI fan, and from what i've heard so far it sounds like a really good album. but yeah, i'd never say he's on the same level as nas. this album is probably top 3 or 5 of the year, but no way it's better than untitled, that's on another level than anything else out right now that was a classic imo.
bun b is sick but II trill had many songs with dumbed down lyrics and overall isn't as good a cd as paper trail. will see what luda comes with his new record. i'm skeptical. i didn't say he same level as nas, jus sayin' nas the only other cat to drop as lyrical and album as this one is or better. this is probably the 2nd best cd of the year so far behind only untitled.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 20, 2008, 12:30:17 PM
and bun b and luda, probably others too can't think right now

i'm a big TI fan, and from what i've heard so far it sounds like a really good album. but yeah, i'd never say he's on the same level as nas. this album is probably top 3 or 5 of the year, but no way it's better than untitled, that's on another level than anything else out right now that was a classic imo.
bun b is sick but II trill had many songs with dumbed down lyrics and overall isn't as good a cd as paper trail. will see what luda comes with his new record. i'm skeptical. i didn't say he same level as nas, jus sayin' nas the only other cat to drop as lyrical and album as this one is or better. this is probably the 2nd best cd of the year so far behind only untitled.

can't disagree with you there homie, no doubt about it TI has stepped up lyrically and with substance on this one.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 12:53:57 PM
average album
why u say that? the general consensus so far has been great.
idk i dont dislike it but i feel its gettin a lil overrated here...i do think its better then his las album
it's not overrated at all. good music can't be denied no matter the region, artist, or genre of music the artist makes. say what you want but to me this album is tip at his best and this album is album of the year. btw 'you ain't missin' nothin'= '08 'i ain't mad at cha'

lol
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.

lol no its not. UV is so much better than his. and this may SLIGHTLY be better than SOR...this is just average...being built up ridiculously for no reason. clearly you enjoy what TI puts out, and clearly your going to fight for him when somebody says its average, so i understand...amd i dont blame you, your fans. you can make the argument its better than average, and maybe win. but you cant even say its album of the year, or better than UV.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 12:55:52 PM
^it's not better than UV but is 100% better than SOR
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 20, 2008, 01:12:59 PM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Common, Game, Jay-Z, Lupé
Jay-Z ain't
Common yea
Lupe yea
This album is better than LAX

it's close but I think i'mma go with LAX
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 01:18:27 PM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Common, Game, Jay-Z, Lupé
Jay-Z ain't
Common yea
Lupe yea
This album is better than LAX

it's close but I think i'mma go with LAX

i hope so...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 20, 2008, 01:25:02 PM
^ you hope LAX is better than Paper Trail ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 01:29:33 PM
y'all are fuckin' crazy this album is better than games, ice cube's, snoop's,nas and anybody else y'all wanna throw in the mix. lyrically he brought it. the production is sick and futuristic. the best album this year hands down and his best album yet. from top to bottom. 'you ain't missin' nothin' >>>>>nas album.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: zilla on September 20, 2008, 01:55:30 PM
After soakin it in all night, this gotta be a candidate for album of the year easily.. anyone know where the Rhianna track is sampled from?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Conan on September 20, 2008, 01:56:35 PM
11 pages deep, largely positive feedback, sales will probably be big... yup, I'm gonna have to check this ASAP and do a DUBCNN review.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 20, 2008, 02:11:25 PM
11 pages deep, largely positive feedback, sales will probably be big... yup, I'm gonna have to check this ASAP and do a DUBCNN review.

Well to be real, Lunatic and Classic are responsible for like 9 of those  :P
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 20, 2008, 02:13:09 PM
I finally got through listening to this album



I'll drop my unbiased review later
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 02:28:31 PM
^i don't think u can do that lol but will see (unbiased)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 02:29:15 PM
11 pages deep, largely positive feedback, sales will probably be big... yup, I'm gonna have to check this ASAP and do a DUBCNN review.
haters will do there job, but check the feedback on here, wordofsouth, sohh, etc - it's 85% (at the least) positive thus far. Sales will be HUGE - close to the 700K mark 1st week imo
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 02:50:07 PM
^it's def better than SOR - that album is avg.
UV was a classic though
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Jome on September 20, 2008, 02:50:38 PM
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.

LMAO.
You just went too far, I hope that was just an attempt to ruin Chamillitary Click's day.  :D

Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 20, 2008, 03:14:41 PM
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.

LMAO.
You just went too far, I hope that was just an attempt to ruin Chamillitary Click's day.  :D


nah. i mean it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 03:30:42 PM
LOL.........it's better than both chamillionaire albums.

LMAO.
You just went too far, I hope that was just an attempt to ruin Chamillitary Click's day.  :D


nah. i mean it.

lol, it wouldn't ruin my day. unless he's right..........











































































SIKE!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 03:31:44 PM
^ you hope LAX is better than Paper Trail ?

no i hope you think LAX is better than PT or else... :baseballbat:

jp homie. 8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: D1G1T4L on September 20, 2008, 04:23:04 PM
so how do you guys compare this album to lil waynes?  :50 more pages of discussion:
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 04:31:38 PM
so how do you guys compare this album to lil waynes?  :50 more pages of discussion:

LOL! 50 more pages. well Wayne is a hate/love album. those who really enjoyed it, will think C3 is better. but theres more C3 haters than lovers on this board, so itll go TI here.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 04:32:45 PM
Anyone who thinks C3 was better than this, slap yaself - that shit was filled with commercial and pop bullshit where this album has about 3 of those.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Reventón Bogotá Rolla on September 20, 2008, 04:34:22 PM
Anyone who thinks C3 was better than this, slap yaself - that shit was filled with commercial and pop bullshit where this album has about 3 of those.

ur joking right...




I like both.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 04:47:32 PM
Anyone who thinks C3 was better than this, slap yaself - that shit was filled with commercial and pop bullshit where this album has about 3 of those.

ur joking right...

I like both.
Got Money, Comfortable, Tie My Hands, Mrs. Officer and Lollipop - 5 commercial bullshit joints; not to mention the crazy annoying and horrible "Phone Home" and "LA LA."
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on September 20, 2008, 04:51:58 PM
Someone slap me...

IMO Carter 3 >>>> Paper Trail

The albums are similar, both have only 1 REALLY wack song, but i prefer the Commercial tunes, Standout tunes on C3 >> PT
Ok T.I.s more lyrical on PT then Wayne is on C3 but C3's effectively Waynes 'King' album, whereby IMO he hit his peak commercially (like T.I. did with King, big single, ATL dropped at the same time) so C3's not gonna be super lyrical, whereas T.I.'s fresh from the Gun charge drama, going to jail etc etc, and of course he's writing again, so you'd expect it to be more lyrical. PT's solid but i think it lacks those standout tunes, thats why i'd place it behind King as my fav T.I. album (TM isnt there as i've never really listenened to it fully due to the version i downloaded being shit quality). Also production on C3 >> PT

But at the end of the day its all down to opinion, so...let the haters hate....i expect a response from Classic within the next minute
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 20, 2008, 05:32:13 PM
Nas is the ONLY mainstream rapper fucking with T.I. lyrically right.

wooooooow. this is just sad. i understand u love ti but talk about reachin homie. and it aint even about hatin but cmon, ti came hard on this album
but overall to say Nas is the only "mainstream rapper fuckin with T.I. lyrically is ridiculous"
who is right now?
Common, Game, Jay-Z, Lupé
Jay-Z ain't

LOL
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: 3rd Coast on September 20, 2008, 05:39:01 PM
Someone slap me...

IMO Carter 3 >>>> Paper Trail

The albums are similar, both have only 1 REALLY wack song, but i prefer the Commercial tunes, Standout tunes on C3 >> PT
Ok T.I.s more lyrical on PT then Wayne is on C3 but C3's effectively Waynes 'King' album, whereby IMO he hit his peak commercially (like T.I. did with King, big single, ATL dropped at the same time) so C3's not gonna be super lyrical, whereas T.I.'s fresh from the Gun charge drama, going to jail etc etc, and of course he's writing again, so you'd expect it to be more lyrical. PT's solid but i think it lacks those standout tunes, thats why i'd place it behind King as my fav T.I. album (TM isnt there as i've never really listenened to it fully due to the version i downloaded being shit quality). Also production on C3 >> PT

But at the end of the day its all down to opinion, so...let the haters hate....i expect a response from Classic within the next minute

i agree..

paper trail aint been out a week n niggas already claimin its classic..1st week..that 6 i gave it still stands..it aint grew on me yet...

its the only 2 albums in my disc changer..this n ro...started wit tip...n since thursday..its been all rotha...

so im goin back n forth..

n tip still aint done it yet...the production classic tho...

Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 08:31:53 PM
Anyone who thinks C3 was better than this, slap yaself - that shit was filled with commercial and pop bullshit where this album has about 3 of those.

ur joking right...

I like both.
Got Money, Comfortable, Tie My Hands, Mrs. Officer and Lollipop - 5 commercial bullshit joints; not to mention the crazy annoying and horrible "Phone Home" and "LA LA."

Tie My Hands? ???

that was the deepest joint on the whole album. it was a cool album if you can feel its vibe.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
^the deepest joint was def the last 1 but he overdid it with that 1
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 20, 2008, 09:42:44 PM
^the deepest joint was def the last 1 but he overdid it with that 1

well it was still one of them...

yeah that last one was cool, until he had to like talk about random shit for 6 mintues. although the Al Sharpton part had me rollin! :laugh:
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 20, 2008, 09:43:26 PM
^the deepest joint was def the last 1 but he overdid it with that 1

well it was still one of them...

yeah that last one was cool, until he had to like talk about random shit for 6 mintues. although the Al Sharpton part had me rollin! :laugh:
yea he dragged it way 2 long; i don't really see this album being as good as PT. If there more tracks like the opener and mr.carter yes, but wasn't the case.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Though Death Is Callin, I'ma Keep Ballin on September 21, 2008, 02:27:29 AM
LOLLLL @ Lunatic... if he had any credibility before, he's lost it all now.. he's on Classic Material status with his "T.I. > Jay-Z" comment.. and claiming that Nas is the ONLY rapper fuckin wit T.I. right now.  LMAO.. what a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 04:21:43 AM
^the deepest joint was def the last 1 but he overdid it with that 1
lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 06:24:14 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 06:28:16 AM
Anyone who thinks C3 was better than this, slap yaself - that shit was filled with commercial and pop bullshit where this album has about 3 of those.

ur joking right...

I like both.
Got Money, Comfortable, Tie My Hands, Mrs. Officer and Lollipop - 5 commercial bullshit joints; not to mention the crazy annoying and horrible "Phone Home" and "LA LA."
lyrically wayne can't touch tip. ready for whatever>>>>>all those joints you named above.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 06:44:36 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 07:01:46 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 07:11:26 AM
LOLLLL @ Lunatic... if he had any credibility before, he's lost it all now.. he's on Classic Material status with his "T.I. > Jay-Z" comment.. and claiming that Nas is the ONLY rapper fuckin wit T.I. right now.  LMAO.. what a fucking idiot.
Jay-Z hasn't been that good over the last few years. Only morons like yourself would think i'm talkin' all time. I'm talkin' right now and it's evident. T.I. murdered Jay-z on Swagga' Like us
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 21, 2008, 07:42:45 AM
LOLLLL @ Lunatic... if he had any credibility before, he's lost it all now.. he's on Classic Material status with his "T.I. > Jay-Z" comment.. and claiming that Nas is the ONLY rapper fuckin wit T.I. right now.  LMAO.. what a fucking idiot.
Jay-Z hasn't been that good over the last few years. Only morons like yourself would think i'm talkin' all time. I'm talkin' right now and it's evident. T.I. murdered Jay-z on Swagga' Like us

Swagga Like Us is a very annoying track in all aspects.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 07:49:20 AM
LOLLLL @ Lunatic... if he had any credibility before, he's lost it all now.. he's on Classic Material status with his "T.I. > Jay-Z" comment.. and claiming that Nas is the ONLY rapper fuckin wit T.I. right now.  LMAO.. what a fucking idiot.
Jay-Z hasn't been that good over the last few years. Only morons like yourself would think i'm talkin' all time. I'm talkin' right now and it's evident. T.I. murdered Jay-z on Swagga' Like us
Swagga Like Us is a very annoying track in all aspects.
but T.I.'s verse blows Jay-Z's out the water
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Friday on September 21, 2008, 07:58:28 AM
^ you hope LAX is better than Paper Trail ?

no i hope you think LAX is better than PT or else... :baseballbat:

jp homie. 8)

haha yeah I think LAX is better. Paper Trail is pretty good though  8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 21, 2008, 08:02:58 AM
LOLLLL @ Lunatic... if he had any credibility before, he's lost it all now.. he's on Classic Material status with his "T.I. > Jay-Z" comment.. and claiming that Nas is the ONLY rapper fuckin wit T.I. right now.  LMAO.. what a fucking idiot.
Jay-Z hasn't been that good over the last few years. Only morons like yourself would think i'm talkin' all time. I'm talkin' right now and it's evident. T.I. murdered Jay-z on Swagga' Like us
Swagga Like Us is a very annoying track in all aspects.
but T.I.'s verse blows Jay-Z's out the water

I don't know or care. All I know is that this will probably be a big club hit and that once again marketing wins from quality.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 08:05:36 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much

this is true...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 08:26:46 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 08:35:30 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 21, 2008, 09:00:34 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 09:04:20 AM
LOLLLL @ Lunatic... if he had any credibility before, he's lost it all now.. he's on Classic Material status with his "T.I. > Jay-Z" comment.. and claiming that Nas is the ONLY rapper fuckin wit T.I. right now.  LMAO.. what a fucking idiot.
Jay-Z hasn't been that good over the last few years. Only morons like yourself would think i'm talkin' all time. I'm talkin' right now and it's evident. T.I. murdered Jay-z on Swagga' Like us
yes sir......left 'em all in the dust !!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 09:09:30 AM
"been thuggin' all my life, can't say i don't deserve to take a break/u rather see me catch a case and watch my future fade away"

fits the T.I. haters on this board
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 09:11:31 AM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.
i'm not overrating it. it's a pretty good album...... his best yet. and yes classic. wayne's album was good (productionwise). lyrically it was bird shit.  lyrically & productionwise paper trail kills lax, untitled, ego trippin', raw footage, trilla, etc. the album was a complete album.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 21, 2008, 09:13:40 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail

you can not say ti is better
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 09:14:33 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail

you can not say ti is better
the truth hurts doesn't it ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 09:20:02 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail
you can not say ti is better
verses on no matter what > jay-z on maybach music
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on September 21, 2008, 09:20:56 AM
"been thuggin' all my life, can't say i don't deserve to take a break/u rather see me catch a case and watch my future fade away"

fits the T.I. haters on this board

There arent that many T.I. haters on this board, its just that u and mainly Classic talk about T.I. as though he's the messiah of rap, everything he touches is gold and classic, when truth be told T.I. is only one of the dopest artists out because theres rappers like Soulja Boy around
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 09:22:25 AM
There arent that many T.I. haters on this board, its just that u and mainly Classic talk about T.I. as though he's the messiah of rap, everything he touches is gold and classic, when truth be told T.I. is only one of the dopest artists out because theres rappers like Soulja Boy around
there are quite a few
nah, i don't talk like that at all
ppl take that from what i say
he's 1 of the dopest artists
i end it there
y'all act like i say this album or any of his albums is the best ever
i say i think the new album is probably about top 3 this year and y'all jump my throat
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 09:22:52 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail
you can not say ti is better
verses on no matter what > jay-z on maybach music
damn that's killin' 'em. the album version of that shit is flames. jay can't fuck wit tip.  i'm illy>>>>>jay on maybach music.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 21, 2008, 09:23:11 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail
you can not say ti is better
verses on no matter what > jay-z on maybach music

That's not something to praise T.I. about. :P Now I haven't heard Maybach Music, but No Matter What got old quick. You should keep things like that in mind before you post something like this.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 09:23:57 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail
you can not say ti is better
verses on no matter what > jay-z on maybach music
Now I haven't heard Maybach Music, but No Matter What got old quick. You should things like that in mind before you post something like this. That's not something to praise T.I. about. :P
maybe it did for ppl like u who dislike TI anyway - fans know that song is great and will remain 1 of the best of his career
the song came out in April and still sounds fresh
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 21, 2008, 09:25:39 AM
"been thuggin' all my life, can't say i don't deserve to take a break/u rather see me catch a case and watch my future fade away"

fits the T.I. haters on this board

There arent that many T.I. haters on this board, its just that u and mainly Classic talk about T.I. as though he's the messiah of rap, everything he touches is gold and classic, when truth be told T.I. is only one of the dopest artists out because theres rappers like Soulja Boy around

Bullshit. Most people on here were hoping for him to get locked up for the full sentence. Somethings wrong with niggas hoping and praying a successful black man who actually gives back to his community and stays humble gets locked up for a long time for trying to protect himself and his family. But then again this forum is mostly white boys who don't know shit about the streets anyway.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 09:25:49 AM
im sorry luna, but jay-zs verse on maybach music > any from paper trail
you can not say ti is better
verses on no matter what > jay-z on maybach music

That's not something to praise T.I. about. :P Now I haven't heard Maybach Music, but No Matter What got old quick. You should keep things like that in mind before you post something like this.
i don't give a fuck how old it is. it's still a standout on paper trail and lyrically runs over maybach music.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: eS El Duque on September 21, 2008, 10:13:16 AM
fuck hip hop
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 10:38:26 AM
fuck hip hop
fuck you shit bag.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 21, 2008, 11:01:59 AM
Lunatic and Classic don't you get it ? The more you post in these topic, overanalayze everything he says and overrate him in general, people are gonna hate on the album more and more. You 2 are pratically responsible for 11 out of 13 pages. Let it be, it's a dope album, top 5 from the mainstream this year and nowehere near a classic. The more you're gonna jump on anybody that says something negative about T.I., people are gonna find more things to pick on.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 11:03:14 AM
Lunatic and Classic don't you get it ? The more you post in these topic, overanalayze everything he says and overrate him in general, people are gonna hate on the album more and more. You 2 are pratically responsible for 11 out of 13 pages. Let it be, it's a dope album, top 5 from the mainstream this year and nowehere near a classic. The more you're gonna jump on anybody that says something negative about T.I., people are gonna find more things to pick on.
only morons let other ppl's opinions get to them so much where they begin hating an artist or album - i'll let the morons be. I never said it was a classic, def top 5 this year.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Though Death Is Callin, I'ma Keep Ballin on September 21, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
I downloaded this... it was better than I expected... but I had very low expectations, so that's not saying much. It's an average release like his others... some dope production on there though that's for sure. I still prefer Carter III  over this. Maybe once T.I. has all that arrest/jail bullshit behind him he can start making better music.. until then, we'll have to settle for this. Btw.. Luda outshined T.I. on his track.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: RingMan on September 21, 2008, 11:33:38 AM
half of the album is good, rest is wack, like every T.I. album except King, hate me if you want, but you know that's true
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 11:34:33 AM
half of the album is good, rest is wack, like every T.I. album except King, hate me if you want, but you know that's true
i don't hate opinions like some on here

just curious, u thought half of trap muzik was wack?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: RingMan on September 21, 2008, 12:26:24 PM
yes, because I dont even know what songs are on the album, only 24's and Rubber Band Man, and I heard that album twice

I'm not saying I don't like T.I., I heard all his albums but I think his albums are unbalanced, King is modern time classic for me, Urban Legend is good too, but the rest is, as I said
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 12:31:47 PM
yes, because I dont even know what songs are on the album, only 24's and Rubber Band Man, and I heard that album twice

I'm not saying I don't like T.I., I heard all his albums but I think his albums are unbalanced, King is modern time classic for me, Urban Legend is good too, but the rest is, as I said
false.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 12:36:35 PM
yes, because I dont even know what songs are on the album, only 24's and Rubber Band Man, and I heard that album twice

I'm not saying I don't like T.I., I heard all his albums but I think his albums are unbalanced, King is modern time classic for me, Urban Legend is good too, but the rest is, as I said
damn
Trap Muzik is considered a southern classic
ain't just me saying it, Rolling Stone Mag just called it a classic hip-hop album
i think u should listen to that record again
King is great minus 2-3 songs; same as Urban Legend

all good, props
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Reventón Bogotá Rolla on September 21, 2008, 12:43:56 PM
Lunatic and Classic don't you get it ? The more you post in these topic, overanalayze everything he says and overrate him in general, people are gonna hate on the album more and more. You 2 are pratically responsible for 11 out of 13 pages. Let it be, it's a dope album, top 5 from the mainstream this year and nowehere near a classic. The more you're gonna jump on anybody that says something negative about T.I., people are gonna find more things to pick on.

this post has already crossed that line....
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Meho on September 21, 2008, 01:20:29 PM
 ???
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 02:37:44 PM
This thread is going nowhere lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 02:43:09 PM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.

lol how can you say when PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop. i dont care what you think about Nas or Game's albums compared to Pro Tools. fact is there albums are better than PT, the end...go cry urself to sleep with all that bitchin and whinin u be doin.

btw ur almost as bad as Classic Material when it comes to suckin on TI, so your opinon means absolute shit to me, or anybody else on here...so u might as well just give on on posting cuz no one will ever take you seriously lol. well, except your freind who thinks  TI is some hip hop God, who has blessed you with an overrated album.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop.
now that's going overboard
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 02:58:12 PM
the general consensus right now is great; let the ppl hate. a few on here are calling it over rated but i think it's some mad ppl the feedback has been great. check out sohh. check out wordofsouth. check out where u want. the album ain't even out yet! lmao - wait til the major sites release there reviews.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 03:01:00 PM
PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop.
now that's going overboard

remarks as "classic" and "album of the year", when as you said...it hasn't even dropped yet. thats not overrated, when its clealy not classic nor album of the year?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 03:07:01 PM
PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop.
now that's going overboard

remarks as "classic" and "album of the year", when as you said...it hasn't even dropped yet. thats not overrated, when its clealy not classic nor album of the year?
i didn't call it classic nor album of the year. other ppl did. u can probably find someone who would say those exact things about any album as soon as it drops. does that mean we should label every hiphop album ever released over rated? if your not understanding me i mean if u look, i bet soon as game/nas/cube/ANYONE leaked, u cud find a fan calling it album of the year or classic. therefore every album ever wud be over rated.

that's not a good analysis.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 03:08:39 PM
the general consensus isn't classic nor album of the year - nor is it over rated. most are calling it a solid album which is an upgrade from his last, from a proven vet and 1 of the top mainstream albums released this year - that's fair imo.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 03:11:15 PM
PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop.
now that's going overboard

remarks as "classic" and "album of the year", when as you said...it hasn't even dropped yet. thats not overrated, when its clealy not classic nor album of the year?
i didn't call it classic nor album of the year. other ppl did. u can probably find someone who would say those exact things about any album as soon as it drops. does that mean we should label every hiphop album ever released over rated? if your not understanding me i mean if u look, i bet soon as game/nas/cube/ANYONE leaked, u cud find a fan calling it album of the year or classic. therefore every album ever wud be over rated.

that's not a good analysis.

im not singling you out. i know who said it lol. i didnt mean in like overrated in the world, i just meant on this board...i didnt make it clear though. my fault...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 03:31:20 PM
im not singling you out. i know who said it lol. i didnt mean in like overrated in the world, i just meant on this board...i didnt make it clear though. my fault...
i wasn't singling u out either just for the record. oh ok, that makes more sense.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 21, 2008, 03:55:09 PM
I listened to this three times now and I can't get to a different conclusion that this album is really mediocre. The beats sound played out and the raps are mediocre. It's a good thing that I cut T.I.'s verses out of those two tracks cause those two edited tracks will be the only tracks that won't end up in my Recycle Bin.

On another note: That leftover "Let My Beat Pound" is crap. The only thing that stands out in that track is the Transformers sound, but the song already got old after 10 spins :-\
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 03:56:01 PM
On another note: That leftover "Let My Beat Pound" is crap.
;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 21, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
On another note: That leftover "Let My Beat Pound" is crap.
;)

So you agree that the song isn't all that? :P I was reading some discussions about this album before I heard it and thought that a lot of people think it's a standout song.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 03:58:51 PM
On another note: That leftover "Let My Beat Pound" is crap.
;)
So you agree that the song isn't all that? :P I was reading some discussions about this album before I heard it and thought that a lot of people think it's a standout song.
ya i've already said i'm glad it got cut. didn't like this nor the 'like i do' song with the dream very much - he made the right decision on cutting those 2.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 21, 2008, 04:00:50 PM
On another note: That leftover "Let My Beat Pound" is crap.
;)
So you agree that the song isn't all that? :P I was reading some discussions about this album before I heard it and thought that a lot of people think it's a standout song.
ya i've already said i'm glad it got cut. didn't like this nor the 'like i do' song with the dream very much - he made the right decision on cutting those 2.

I didn't bother to listen to "Like I Do". Songs with The Dream are generally crap. T.I. isn't good enough to save tracks with him on it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 04:04:16 PM
On another note: That leftover "Let My Beat Pound" is crap.
;)
So you agree that the song isn't all that? :P I was reading some discussions about this album before I heard it and thought that a lot of people think it's a standout song.
ya i've already said i'm glad it got cut. didn't like this nor the 'like i do' song with the dream very much - he made the right decision on cutting those 2.

I didn't bother to listen to "Like I Do". Songs with The Dream are generally crap. T.I. isn't good enough to save tracks with him on it.
ya the song wasn't very good. after a few listens i'm guessing "porn star" replaced it and it's at least a small upgrade.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on September 21, 2008, 04:12:55 PM
Lunatic and Classic don't you get it ? The more you post in these topic, overanalayze everything he says and overrate him in general, people are gonna hate on the album more and more. You 2 are pratically responsible for 11 out of 13 pages. Let it be, it's a dope album, top 5 from the mainstream this year and nowehere near a classic. The more you're gonna jump on anybody that says something negative about T.I., people are gonna find more things to pick on.

I stopped reading the thread here. Couldn't have put it any better. You bring the hate you get and the dickriding coments on yourself because even if you say you're not, the way you write makes you come across as if you're on Tip's jock way hard. Just look at the amount of posts you made in this thread alone.

The album is dope by the way, I've been bumping it since it leaked and Tip came through. Some of the beats are questionable but he's on point lyrically IMO.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 04:15:28 PM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.

lol how can you say when PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop. i dont care what you think about Nas or Game's albums compared to Pro Tools. fact is there albums are better than PT, the end...go cry urself to sleep with all that bitchin and whinin u be doin.

btw ur almost as bad as Classic Material when it comes to suckin on TI, so your opinon means absolute shit to me, or anybody else on here...so u might as well just give on on posting cuz no one will ever take you seriously lol. well, except your freind who thinks  TI is some hip hop God, who has blessed you with an overrated album.
listen up bitch. a nigga's opinion is just as valuable as you think yours is. i think alot of you guys are mad that paper trail came out to be a little better than y'all thought it would. and that's okay. in my opinion it's a great album if you can't call it a claasic. and it's definitely album of the year. like it or not.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 04:30:24 PM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.

lol how can you say when PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop. i dont care what you think about Nas or Game's albums compared to Pro Tools. fact is there albums are better than PT, the end...go cry urself to sleep with all that bitchin and whinin u be doin.

btw ur almost as bad as Classic Material when it comes to suckin on TI, so your opinon means absolute shit to me, or anybody else on here...so u might as well just give on on posting cuz no one will ever take you seriously lol. well, except your freind who thinks  TI is some hip hop God, who has blessed you with an overrated album.
listen up bitch. a nigga's opinion is just as valuable as you think yours is. i think alot of you guys are mad that paper trail came out to be a little better than y'all thought it would. and that's okay. in my opinion it's a great album if you can't call it a claasic. and it's definitely album of the year. like it or not.

aii man, your right. ::)

i just find it comical that nothing TI ever puts out is bad, & even when most, if not all agree its bad, it is still better than anything in the history of music. :D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 21, 2008, 04:32:02 PM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.

lol how can you say when PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop. i dont care what you think about Nas or Game's albums compared to Pro Tools. fact is there albums are better than PT, the end...go cry urself to sleep with all that bitchin and whinin u be doin.

btw ur almost as bad as Classic Material when it comes to suckin on TI, so your opinon means absolute shit to me, or anybody else on here...so u might as well just give on on posting cuz no one will ever take you seriously lol. well, except your freind who thinks  TI is some hip hop God, who has blessed you with an overrated album.
listen up bitch. a nigga's opinion is just as valuable as you think yours is. i think alot of you guys are mad that paper trail came out to be a little better than y'all thought it would. and that's okay. in my opinion it's a great album if you can't call it a claasic. and it's definitely album of the year. like it or not.

aii man, your right. ::)

i just find it comical that nothing TI ever puts out is bad, & even when most, if not all agree its bad, it is still better than anything in the history of music. :D
fuck off.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 21, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
classic material = ti
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Though Death Is Callin, I'ma Keep Ballin on September 21, 2008, 07:21:14 PM
classic material = ti

LOL not even T.I. would be retarded enough to make those kind of claims...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 07:23:44 PM
classic material = ti

lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 21, 2008, 07:32:34 PM
classic material = ti

lol

it all makes sense now! :D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 07:35:04 PM
So, I've listened to it another time tonight, and it's a good album. DEFINATLY better than the last one - but not better than KING - I think I like every song on that.
Anyway, Dead & Gone is tight - but I'm still not over that sample for that Rihanna track and Whatever You Like sounds like a PCD track lol.

Will give it another listen tomorrow.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 21, 2008, 07:36:29 PM
Oh and yeah, Mauzip or any of you music-mp3-editors, could you try edit the yodeling out of the track? :D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 21, 2008, 07:40:30 PM
So, I've listened to it another time tonight, and it's a good album. DEFINATLY better than the last one - but not better than KING - I think I like every song on that.
Anyway, Dead & Gone is tight - but I'm still not over that sample for that Rihanna track and Whatever You Like sounds like a PCD track lol.

Will give it another listen tomorrow.
oh ya, easily better than his last cd. i think it's more consistent than king which had BAD songs like 'stand up guy' and 'get back.'
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: BiggSadot on September 21, 2008, 08:35:28 PM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.

lol how can you say when PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop. i dont care what you think about Nas or Game's albums compared to Pro Tools. fact is there albums are better than PT, the end...go cry urself to sleep with all that bitchin and whinin u be doin.

btw ur almost as bad as Classic Material when it comes to suckin on TI, so your opinon means absolute shit to me, or anybody else on here...so u might as well just give on on posting cuz no one will ever take you seriously lol. well, except your freind who thinks  TI is some hip hop God, who has blessed you with an overrated album.

You think I give a fuck if cats on this board don't like me? Most of them is white boys from Europe who come on here and try to say whats hot or not in a country they not in when they completely out the loop and don't know shit anyway. You can have the respect from this board cause its full of hater motherfuckers and fake ass thugs hiding behind computer screens. You fit in perfectly. And you seem to be the one bitching. the fact that niggas like this album and it turned out good got to be eating you up inside. When this shit go platinum just blow your brains out and end it cause this nigga only gonna get bigger and better.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Avalanche on September 21, 2008, 09:55:19 PM
so is an official grouprip out or what, because the AIE is definitely a re-encoded rip.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Let's Get Down on September 22, 2008, 01:08:42 AM
I haven't given the album a full listen yet but so far I'm feelin, "You Ain't Missin Nothing", "56 Bars", "I'm Illy" (he goes hard on this), "On Top Of The World", "No Matter What", "Every Chance I Get"...Already 6 songs I'm feelin..Guess it's safe to say it's a solid album. I never gave "TI vs TIP" album a listen and judging from some of your reviews for it, I don't think I'll be checkin it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 22, 2008, 01:27:24 AM
Oh and yeah, Mauzip or any of you music-mp3-editors, could you try edit the yodeling out of the track? :D

There is nothing good to say about that song, so it would be a waste of time to work on it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 22, 2008, 03:23:25 AM
classic material = ti
LOL
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 22, 2008, 03:24:32 AM
classic material = ti

LOL not even T.I. would be retarded enough to make those kind of claims...
your mom would.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 22, 2008, 12:21:42 PM
I haven't given the album a full listen yet but so far I'm feelin, "You Ain't Missin Nothing", "56 Bars", "I'm Illy" (he goes hard on this), "On Top Of The World", "No Matter What", "Every Chance I Get"...Already 6 songs I'm feelin..Guess it's safe to say it's a solid album. I never gave "TI vs TIP" album a listen and judging from some of your reviews for it, I don't think I'll be checkin it.
All those tracks u mentioned are hot as fuck..had "every chance i get" on repeat; that shit is hard as fuck - better than i thought. wait til u hear a few more tracks, hot stuff. "TI VS TIP" wasn't bad at all imo minus 3-4 songs, but some ppl disliked it. The album is 3 sections. TIP. TI. TI VS TIP. the TIP side and the TI VS TIP side are HOT AS FUCK. The Ti side was kind of commercial and poppy minus 1 hot ass track (help is coming). I would check it out if i was u.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 22, 2008, 01:04:57 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: RingMan on September 22, 2008, 01:44:02 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
lol, what you smokin?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 22, 2008, 02:16:02 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
lol, what you smokin?

nothing, i just want classic material to like me
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on September 22, 2008, 02:24:04 PM
so has the GroupRip leaked yet?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 22, 2008, 03:04:28 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
lol, what you smokin?

nothing, i just want classic material to like me
i'm glad my name is mentioned even when i'm not logged on this site. i feel very important. anyway, homie whether you like the album or not is up to you. i will just encourage you not to miss out on a great album. sept. 30th i will still be purchasing paper trail bright and early with my hard earned paper. as the day for paper trail gets closer and closer, there's nothing to argue with clowns' over. i've said it over and over. i've heard the album. it confirms what i've been sayin'. we'll see what's next.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: J. Bryson on September 22, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
lol, what you smokin?

nothing, i just want classic material to like me
i'm glad my name is mentioned even when i'm not logged on this site. i feel very important. anyway, homie whether you like the album or not is up to you. i will just encourage you not to miss out on a great album. sept. 30th i will still be purchasing paper trail bright and early with my hard earned paper. as the day for paper trail gets closer and closer, there's nothing to argue with clowns' over. i've said it over and over. i've heard the album. it confirms what i've been sayin'. we'll see what's next.

i do like the album, i am a TI fan. just saying maybe, just maybe why not many people respect your opinion is because when you disagree with them it's an automatic "your a fuckin idiot, TI is better than (insert whoever this person has in their sig), as well as your mom." lol, even when people aren't hating on it and like the album except maybe one track it's "fuck you shitbag. this album is classic and flawless." everyone is entitled to their opinions. if you refuse to hear anything else other than what you think, then why post here?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 22, 2008, 04:31:40 PM
paper trail shits on the carter 3. comparing the carter 3 to the king album is blaspemy. imo paper trail is a classic. lyrically he advanced and the production is flawless. it's easily better than every major label release that came out so far.        i'm illy>>>>>>carter 3.

But your so obviously biased your opinion don't matter much
it's the fuckin' truth. no major album dropped this year that's this good. anybody who can listen to wayne wit a clear and logical mind and can't see that he says nothing is an idiot.
I didn't mention C3. I was talking bout your overrating of Paper Trail.

also that "its easily better than every major label release that came out so far." comment is a bit overly biased.

C3 has that vibe. just a cool listen.

If your an idiot it is cool to listen to. If you actually pay attention to lyrics the shit is mind numbing and unlistenable.  And all this talk about is PT better than untitled or LAX is killing me since both Untitled & LAX are both overrated. Pro Tools >>> LAX & Untitled, Operation Take Back HipHop >>> LAX & Untitled. I can go on. Stop dickriding Nas like he can do no wrong. His production has been garbage since the Def Jam deal. I wont even get on LAX. Album was a joke. No shock that people dickride it tho as this is a westcoast site.

lol how can you say when PT is shaping out to be the most overrated album in the history of hip hop. i dont care what you think about Nas or Game's albums compared to Pro Tools. fact is there albums are better than PT, the end...go cry urself to sleep with all that bitchin and whinin u be doin.

btw ur almost as bad as Classic Material when it comes to suckin on TI, so your opinon means absolute shit to me, or anybody else on here...so u might as well just give on on posting cuz no one will ever take you seriously lol. well, except your freind who thinks  TI is some hip hop God, who has blessed you with an overrated album.

You think I give a fuck if cats on this board don't like me? Most of them is white boys from Europe who come on here and try to say whats hot or not in a country they not in when they completely out the loop and don't know shit anyway. You can have the respect from this board cause its full of hater motherfuckers and fake ass thugs hiding behind computer screens. You fit in perfectly. And you seem to be the one bitching. the fact that niggas like this album and it turned out good got to be eating you up inside. When this shit go platinum just blow your brains out and end it cause this nigga only gonna get bigger and better.

lol...im bitching? i say i think its average, YOUR the one bitching LMAO!

anyway you have me all twisted, i am a fan of TI. i have nothing against him. your boy classic keeps saying to me to value other peoples opinons, so listen to him like you do about most other things (TI), and value mine. im tellin you like it is, i wanna see TI drop a classic...he didnt, get over it. ::)

he dropped the 4th best so far, behind Nas, Game, Reks. thats a nice list right there, so feel special hes puttin shit out to be named with them.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 22, 2008, 04:34:44 PM
I been workin' on a professional style of this album for raptalk - i think some of u will be surprised by it (hopefully).
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 22, 2008, 04:51:01 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
lol, what you smokin?

nothing, i just want classic material to like me
i'm glad my name is mentioned even when i'm not logged on this site. i feel very important. anyway, homie whether you like the album or not is up to you. i will just encourage you not to miss out on a great album. sept. 30th i will still be purchasing paper trail bright and early with my hard earned paper. as the day for paper trail gets closer and closer, there's nothing to argue with clowns' over. i've said it over and over. i've heard the album. it confirms what i've been sayin'. we'll see what's next.

i do like the album, i am a TI fan. just saying maybe, just maybe why not many people respect your opinion is because when you disagree with them it's an automatic "your a fuckin idiot, TI is better than (insert whoever this person has in their sig), as well as your mom." lol, even when people aren't hating on it and like the album except maybe one track it's "fuck you shitbag. this album is classic and flawless." everyone is entitled to their opinions. if you refuse to hear anything else other than what you think, then why post here?
you didn't read my statement well i see. read it again and breathe it in. i'll just say the album is flawless and definitely a classic. it is my opinion and you have the right to state yours as well. as long as i'm not disrespected. my standard of music is unparralled wit these kids on this forum and it shows only the real fuck wit the real shit and the lames.....you can figure it out can't you?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 22, 2008, 05:37:42 PM
this is the greatest album of all time, better than all eyez on me IMO
lol, what you smokin?

nothing, i just want classic material to like me
i'm glad my name is mentioned even when i'm not logged on this site. i feel very important. anyway, homie whether you like the album or not is up to you. i will just encourage you not to miss out on a great album. sept. 30th i will still be purchasing paper trail bright and early with my hard earned paper. as the day for paper trail gets closer and closer, there's nothing to argue with clowns' over. i've said it over and over. i've heard the album. it confirms what i've been sayin'. we'll see what's next.

i do like the album, i am a TI fan. just saying maybe, just maybe why not many people respect your opinion is because when you disagree with them it's an automatic "your a fuckin idiot, TI is better than (insert whoever this person has in their sig), as well as your mom." lol, even when people aren't hating on it and like the album except maybe one track it's "fuck you shitbag. this album is classic and flawless." everyone is entitled to their opinions. if you refuse to hear anything else other than what you think, then why post here?
you didn't read my statement well i see. read it again and breathe it in. i'll just say the album is flawless and definitely a classic. it is my opinion and you have the right to state yours as well. as long as i'm not disrespected. my standard of music is unparralled wit these kids on this forum and it shows only the real fuck wit the real shit and the lames.....you can figure it out can't you?

lol. its funny how it slowly regresses back to the usual shit.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Let's Get Down on September 23, 2008, 12:24:12 AM
I haven't given the album a full listen yet but so far I'm feelin, "You Ain't Missin Nothing", "56 Bars", "I'm Illy" (he goes hard on this), "On Top Of The World", "No Matter What", "Every Chance I Get"...Already 6 songs I'm feelin..Guess it's safe to say it's a solid album. I never gave "TI vs TIP" album a listen and judging from some of your reviews for it, I don't think I'll be checkin it.
All those tracks u mentioned are hot as fuck..had "every chance i get" on repeat; that shit is hard as fuck - better than i thought. wait til u hear a few more tracks, hot stuff. "TI VS TIP" wasn't bad at all imo minus 3-4 songs, but some ppl disliked it. The album is 3 sections. TIP. TI. TI VS TIP. the TIP side and the TI VS TIP side are HOT AS FUCK. The Ti side was kind of commercial and poppy minus 1 hot ass track (help is coming). I would check it out if i was u.

Hmm, I might then go borrow the album from my bro since he got all of T.I.'s shyt.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 10:47:01 AM
^cool and good idea
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 23, 2008, 10:52:49 AM
I been workin' on a professional style of this album for raptalk - i think some of u will be surprised by it (hopefully).

Like a review? lol
The one problem with that would be that it's written by an extremely biased person.


Can you hook up that Top Back RMX by the way?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 11:01:47 AM
Like a review? lol
The one problem with that would be that it's written by an extremely biased person.
Can you hook up that Top Back RMX by the way?
my bad, forgot to put the word "review" in there, lol
you'll see it and form your own opinion
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1928399704b22dd8/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Old English on September 23, 2008, 11:03:06 AM
yo this might be the best LP of 2008...all u Wayne Stans shld really check it out b4 u get mad...

For the record I hated T.I vs TIP and really wasnt too excited about this one but man smash after smash on this album got me a T.I fan again!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 11:08:34 AM
yo this might be the best LP of 2008...all u Wayne Stans shld really check it out b4 u get mad...

For the record I hated T.I vs TIP and really wasnt too excited about this one but man smash after smash on this album got me a T.I fan again!!
let the truth be told!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 23, 2008, 11:15:36 AM
Like a review? lol
The one problem with that would be that it's written by an extremely biased person.
Can you hook up that Top Back RMX by the way?
my bad, forgot to put the word "review" in there, lol
you'll see it and form your own opinion
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1928399704b22dd8/

k, thanks

Now I can work on that T.I. free edit for Though Death Is Callin, I'ma Keep Ballin :)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 11:17:15 AM
Like a review? lol
The one problem with that would be that it's written by an extremely biased person.
Can you hook up that Top Back RMX by the way?
my bad, forgot to put the word "review" in there, lol
you'll see it and form your own opinion
http://www.zshare.net/audio/1928399704b22dd8/
k, thanks
Now I can work on that T.I. free edit for Though Death Is Callin, I'ma Keep Ballin :)
no problem!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 23, 2008, 05:37:26 PM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Proper)-2008-C4
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 05:38:04 PM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Proper)-2008-C4
u hear it? actual group rip?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 23, 2008, 06:04:30 PM
C4 always is...

too bad I already wasted a cd on the aie rip. the bass just wasnt hitting right
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 06:06:16 PM
^true
w.e, fuck it
not gonna' spend time downloadin' this 1, deletin' old 1 off cpu, removin' from ipod/itunes and addin' new 1
will just wait for the 30th to cop it
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 23, 2008, 06:06:45 PM
C4 always is...

too bad I already wasted a cd on the aie rip. the bass just wasnt hitting right
where is the group rip ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 23, 2008, 06:09:25 PM
it is on the internets
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 23, 2008, 06:11:47 PM
it is on the internets
i seen one on vibe.net.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: TRG on September 23, 2008, 06:55:24 PM
just downloaded the C4 rip, sounds a lot better on my system now.

will cop when it drops
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 23, 2008, 07:38:37 PM
When T.I.P. ran his initial campaign in 2003 to be anointed “King of the South,” he made a compelling case with his dismantling of then commercially viable Lil Flip, and his breakout third LP Urban Legend. Met with little resistance, T.I. went on to further build his legacy and become a mainstream star with KING, T.I. vs. T.I.P., and the 2006 film ATL.

 

With the success came challengers, as rivals began questioning T.I.’s credibility as an artist and his claim of being the South’s premier MC. Now learning that defending the crown is harder than chasing it, T.I. seeks to continue his reign and quiet critics with his sixth studio album Paper Trail (Grand Hustle/Atlantic).

 

The album begins appropriately with the lyrical dexterity of “56 Bars (Intro).” With regal authority, TIP dissects then dismisses his less talented naysayers without ever having to call out a name. Reunited with the producer that’s crafted his biggest hits, DJ Toomp’s pulsing bass lines fit perfectly with the Bankhead star’s cocksure demeanor; setting a good start for the disc.

 

That focus continues on their second album collaboration “I’m Illy.” Again in battle mode, T.I. juxtaposes his achievements with a thinly veiled, local Atlanta rapper who aspires to the king’s throne in mind.

 

For the first time, TIP addresses in detail the events that lead to his gun prosecution on “Ready For Whatever.” Over Drumma Boy’s urgent but sprawling synths, T.I. makes a compelling argument for his need for weapons, explaining the murder of his best friend before his eyes despite the six figures he already pays for security. What makes the track work so well is that TIP is brave enough to leave his Rap persona at the door and reveal the fear that fueled his rash decisions.

 

The middle half of the album is dominated by a long string of commercial and pop tracks which contribute a mixed bag to the LP. “On Top of the World” features T.I.’s first partnership with former heated rival Ludacris and rising ATL newcomer B.O.B. Instead of a confrontational song, the Atlanta headliners produced a joyous track detailing their many accomplishments. While it works, the collaboration will likely do little to deter the talk of those still wishing for both men to pick up where “Stomp” left off.

 

The back to back syrupy singles “Live Your Life” and “Whatever You Like” follow next. Smart fans will recognize that these songs are necessary to appeal to the king’s pop constituency, but that doesn’t cancel out that they are commercial fluff that does nothing for the LP.

 

Danja’s bluesy, organ-tinged musicianship on “No Matter What” gets things back in order with T.I.’s assertions of triumph over his many personal struggles. “Swing Ya Rag” has him in lyrically weaving Swizz Beatz’s signature rhythms into another guaranteed infectious hit in the vein of “Bring ‘Em Out.”

 

On the all-star collaboration “Swagger Like Us,” Kanye West, Jay-Z and Lil Wayne all make convincing cases why their swagger supersedes all others. While some will undoubtedly find the continued auto-tune effects from Kanye and Wayne clichéd, both men deliver good set up verses for T.I., who in the coveted last spot slightly edges out a clever Jay-Z verse by dismantling the M.I.A. sampling track with a rapid closing succession of consonance-heavy lyrics.

 

Even with distractions ranging from legal woes to petty and childish territorial “beef,” T.I. has managed to craft an album that gives listeners the standout moments they expect from the Bankhead star. Paper Trail’s achievements are enough to remind fans why they fell in love with T.I. back in 2003, and keep his tenuous title as “King of the South” in place for the immediate future.

let the positive reviews begin
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 23, 2008, 07:41:56 PM
When T.I.P. ran his initial campaign in 2003 to be anointed “King of the South,” he made a compelling case with his dismantling of then commercially viable Lil Flip, and his breakout third LP Urban Legend. Met with little resistance, T.I. went on to further build his legacy and become a mainstream star with KING, T.I. vs. T.I.P., and the 2006 film ATL.

 

With the success came challengers, as rivals began questioning T.I.’s credibility as an artist and his claim of being the South’s premier MC. Now learning that defending the crown is harder than chasing it, T.I. seeks to continue his reign and quiet critics with his sixth studio album Paper Trail (Grand Hustle/Atlantic).

 

The album begins appropriately with the lyrical dexterity of “56 Bars (Intro).” With regal authority, TIP dissects then dismisses his less talented naysayers without ever having to call out a name. Reunited with the producer that’s crafted his biggest hits, DJ Toomp’s pulsing bass lines fit perfectly with the Bankhead star’s cocksure demeanor; setting a good start for the disc.

 

That focus continues on their second album collaboration “I’m Illy.” Again in battle mode, T.I. juxtaposes his achievements with a thinly veiled, local Atlanta rapper who aspires to the king’s throne in mind.

 

For the first time, TIP addresses in detail the events that lead to his gun prosecution on “Ready For Whatever.” Over Drumma Boy’s urgent but sprawling synths, T.I. makes a compelling argument for his need for weapons, explaining the murder of his best friend before his eyes despite the six figures he already pays for security. What makes the track work so well is that TIP is brave enough to leave his Rap persona at the door and reveal the fear that fueled his rash decisions.

 

The middle half of the album is dominated by a long string of commercial and pop tracks which contribute a mixed bag to the LP. “On Top of the World” features T.I.’s first partnership with former heated rival Ludacris and rising ATL newcomer B.O.B. Instead of a confrontational song, the Atlanta headliners produced a joyous track detailing their many accomplishments. While it works, the collaboration will likely do little to deter the talk of those still wishing for both men to pick up where “Stomp” left off.

 

The back to back syrupy singles “Live Your Life” and “Whatever You Like” follow next. Smart fans will recognize that these songs are necessary to appeal to the king’s pop constituency, but that doesn’t cancel out that they are commercial fluff that does nothing for the LP.

 

Danja’s bluesy, organ-tinged musicianship on “No Matter What” gets things back in order with T.I.’s assertions of triumph over his many personal struggles. “Swing Ya Rag” has him in lyrically weaving Swizz Beatz’s signature rhythms into another guaranteed infectious hit in the vein of “Bring ‘Em Out.”

 

On the all-star collaboration “Swagger Like Us,” Kanye West, Jay-Z and Lil Wayne all make convincing cases why their swagger supersedes all others. While some will undoubtedly find the continued auto-tune effects from Kanye and Wayne clichéd, both men deliver good set up verses for T.I., who in the coveted last spot slightly edges out a clever Jay-Z verse by dismantling the M.I.A. sampling track with a rapid closing succession of consonance-heavy lyrics.

 

Even with distractions ranging from legal woes to petty and childish territorial “beef,” T.I. has managed to craft an album that gives listeners the standout moments they expect from the Bankhead star. Paper Trail’s achievements are enough to remind fans why they fell in love with T.I. back in 2003, and keep his tenuous title as “King of the South” in place for the immediate future.

let the positive reviews begin
the review was tight although i like both 'live your life' and 'whatever you like'.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 23, 2008, 07:44:38 PM
Live Your Life is like the best song on the album...syrupy? ???
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 23, 2008, 07:52:25 PM
i love how just blaze murdered that beat !!!!!!!! can't wait to get my official copy. damn toomp said this album was gonna be on some 2010 shit.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 23, 2008, 08:15:10 PM
very fair review. there are a couple more tracks i'm not overly keen on for example i wouldn't compare that swizz beatz track to his earlier track with t.i. 'bring em out' cause that track had way more energy and was generally just a lot better. on the whole i agree its a solid effort, especially lyrically as t.i. is on point. having tracks from toomp was a good move but its a big shame there wasn't more danja collabs as 'no matter what' is easily a standout...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on September 23, 2008, 08:29:09 PM
Props on the review.

This album is dope!!!

Is it better then lil wayne?

This could be a case of 1.A/ 1.B

Both albums are very good and undoudably the best two records of 08, this coming from a guy who is all westcoast and all New york.
Lets face it the south has it going on right now and been had it going on for a long time.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 23, 2008, 11:46:01 PM
Finally a proper rip, lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Jome on September 24, 2008, 04:50:22 AM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Proper)-2008-C4

This got Jome's stamp of approval, bass is much heavier & cleaner, volume is better, and it overall sounds crisper.
C4 = Those dudes.

Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Matty on September 24, 2008, 05:01:07 AM
yeah something was clearly wrong with that other rip. not enough clarity and the low-end was kinda filtered out...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Young Old Head on September 24, 2008, 09:05:05 AM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Proper)-2008-C4

This got Jome's stamp of approval, bass is much heavier & cleaner, volume is better, and it overall sounds crisper.
C4 = Those dudes.

in this case: yes. in general: no. they fucked up some other releases...w/ tracks skipping when the proper cd wouldn't have any...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: --Vance-- on September 24, 2008, 01:36:04 PM
Finally got it. It's a good mainstream rap album.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: H.O.V.A. on September 24, 2008, 02:47:52 PM
just listened to the group rip,i have to say it´s a great album...the toomp beats are :o, especially "i´m illy".
production is great overall and TIP spits heat mostly...i see this movin a lot of units.
does anybody know what the next single is gonna be?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 24, 2008, 02:49:23 PM
just listened to the group rip,i have to say it´s a great album...the toomp beats are :o, especially "i´m illy".
production is great overall and TIP spits heat mostly...i see this movin a lot of units.
does anybody know what the next single is gonna be?
swing ya rag is the next single.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 24, 2008, 03:34:23 PM
just listened to the group rip,i have to say it´s a great album...the toomp beats are :o, especially "i´m illy".
production is great overall and TIP spits heat mostly...i see this movin a lot of units.
does anybody know what the next single is gonna be?
a video for "whats up, what's haapnin" just dropped and a video for "swing ya rag" has dropped. i think a video for "live your life" will certainly be released as well.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 24, 2008, 04:02:50 PM
just listened to the group rip,i have to say it´s a great album...the toomp beats are :o, especially "i´m illy".
production is great overall and TIP spits heat mostly...i see this movin a lot of units.
does anybody know what the next single is gonna be?
a video for "whats up, what's haapnin" just dropped and a video for "swing ya rag" has dropped. i think a video for "live your life" will certainly be released as well.
great. i finally heard the group rip. the album sounds amazing.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Bojakabo on September 24, 2008, 11:32:07 PM
hm i find T.I to be a boring rapper but just had to check this one out because of this thread lol

In my opinion lil wayne is much more of an entertainer.. and when luda spits on that "top of the world" he clearly outshines T.I

so this really is not my taste..even the beats is boring and has the worst of all commercial sounds.

The only tracks i can listen to in my opinion are ready for whateva, top of the world, no  matter what, you aint missing nothing and the track with legend

btw is that live your life a joke? LOL @ that corny sample..
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 25, 2008, 02:03:16 PM
^props givin' the cd a shot
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 25, 2008, 03:59:28 PM
hm i find T.I to be a boring rapper but just had to check this one out because of this thread lol

In my opinion lil wayne is much more of an entertainer.. and when luda spits on that "top of the world" he clearly outshines T.I

so this really is not my taste..even the beats is boring and has the worst of all commercial sounds.

The only tracks i can listen to in my opinion are ready for whateva, top of the world, no  matter what, you aint missing nothing and the track with legend

btw is that live your life a joke? LOL @ that corny sample..
that album is a monster. you might still have some wayne wax in ya ears.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Al Bundy on September 25, 2008, 11:38:27 PM
skimmed thru it. better than TI vs TIP fa sho but nowhere near classic. I think KING. deserves that title of classic
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Let's Get Down on September 26, 2008, 12:34:05 AM
^props givin' the cd a shot

Propz for 16,000 homie!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on September 26, 2008, 04:16:35 PM
I thought the album was dope, it's alot better than the last album without a doubt... I give it a 4/5, I will be copping this as long as I got the $
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 28, 2008, 05:38:31 PM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Proper)-2008-C4
this shit sounds good. everything is where it suppose to be.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 28, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
^dope
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Al Bundy on September 28, 2008, 10:17:03 PM
whats up, what's hapnin has been getting alot of rotations in the car.. and sadly whatever you like to keep my girl from bitching
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on September 29, 2008, 12:44:28 AM
T.I.-Paper_Trail-(Proper)-2008-C4
this shit sounds good. everything is where it suppose to be.

word. i downloaded this damn album 3 times lol

but it was worth it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 29, 2008, 10:54:13 AM
will be coppin' tomorrow!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 29, 2008, 10:57:30 AM
will be coppin' tomorrow!

it's out over here already

the booklet has way too many pages. i could barely fit it back in, lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 29, 2008, 11:00:56 AM
will be coppin' tomorrow!
it's out over here already
the booklet has way too many pages. i could barely fit it back in, lol
real talk
lol cool at the book! wait, who do u have it? don't tell u bought it cause i no u didn't :P
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: K.Dub on September 29, 2008, 11:02:11 AM
will be coppin' tomorrow!

it's out over here already

the booklet has way too many pages. i could barely fit it back in, lol

Europe gets album released a day earlier, lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: penenstamp on September 29, 2008, 11:04:32 AM
will be coppin' tomorrow!
it's out over here already
the booklet has way too many pages. i could barely fit it back in, lol
real talk
lol cool at the book! wait, who do u have it? don't tell u bought it cause i no u didn't :P

i just looked at it in the record store, haha




will be coppin' tomorrow!

it's out over here already

the booklet has way too many pages. i could barely fit it back in, lol

Europe gets album released a day earlier, lol

or on Fridays...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 29, 2008, 11:05:30 AM
^that makes more sense lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on September 29, 2008, 02:02:05 PM
album gon be a classic thats 4 sure!

T.I. On It Again..

One
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 29, 2008, 02:16:58 PM
will be coppin' tomorrow!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 29, 2008, 03:58:10 PM
album gon be a classic thats 4 sure!

 :D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 30, 2008, 06:14:03 AM
i got my official copy.
Title: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 01:28:43 PM
Raptalk.net featured review for the new T.I. album "Paper Trail" in stores today!

Read Here: http://raptalk.net/website/content/view/885/56/
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Flava In Ya Ear on September 30, 2008, 01:32:00 PM

another TI thread?

god damn all you do is post TI shit.

you could've posted this in your "super mega ti - paper trail thread"

shits annoying.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
this is my professionally written review for the album for a hip-hop website which i contribute content to. it deserves a new thread because i put a lot of work into it. stop being a little crybaby and don't enter the thread if it really bothers u
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Flava In Ya Ear on September 30, 2008, 01:35:37 PM
this is my professionally written review for the album for a hip-hop website which i contribute content to. it deserves a new thread because i put a lot of work into it. stop being a little crybaby and don't enter the thread if it really bothers u

i try avoiding them but its all i see. when i check the outbound section all i see is at least 5-7 ti topics started by you, and then with Classic Thread and BiggSaddot goin back n forth with other dudes.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 01:37:29 PM
this is my professionally written review for the album for a hip-hop website which i contribute content to. it deserves a new thread because i put a lot of work into it. stop being a little crybaby and don't enter the thread if it really bothers u

i try avoiding them but its all i see. when i check the outbound section all i see is at least 5-7 ti topics started by you, and then with Classic Thread and BiggSaddot goin back n forth with other dudes.
stop entering the threads

im'a stop responding to u in this thread now

i put a lot of hard work and time into this review, not gonna let something negative overshadow it
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: penenstamp on September 30, 2008, 01:42:54 PM
Jesus Christ, dude! I'm sure you're a good guy, but you fucking ruin Outbound with your T.I. spam!
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 01:43:55 PM
lol at u guys avoiding the review and acting like i didn't just post 2 other reviews; i am now reviewing albums. paper trail came out today. i reviewed it like i did term/big kuntry new albums. get over it.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Flava In Ya Ear on September 30, 2008, 01:44:19 PM
Yeah and i find it funny how dude can make a review about the rapper he dickrides.

Thats why people should take notice and realize that reviews are always biased.

Funny how T.I.'s album had "a good mixtures of songs for everybody" but LAX "had no direction".

LMAO the double standard nowadays.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: penenstamp on September 30, 2008, 01:46:00 PM
lol at u guys avoiding the review and acting like i didn't just post 2 other reviews; i am now reviewing albums. paper trail came out today. i reviewed it like i did term/big kuntry new albums. get over it.

keep your T.I. spam in one thread

or go to wordofsouth.com and spam over there


Yeah and i found it funny how dude can make a review about the rapper the dickrides.

and even dares to call it "professionally" LOL
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Black Excellence on September 30, 2008, 01:51:28 PM
great.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Black Excellence on September 30, 2008, 01:53:05 PM
lol at u guys avoiding the review and acting like i didn't just post 2 other reviews; i am now reviewing albums. paper trail came out today. i reviewed it like i did term/big kuntry new albums. get over it.
tell 'em homie !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 02:11:51 PM
but LAX "had no direction".
and where did i say this?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 02:19:55 PM
^me 2

The hype leading into Clifford Harris' highly-anticipated "Paper Trail" has been hard to avoid. It's hard to say for certain if it's been overkill. On the one hand releasing SIX singles before your full-length album even hits stores is a potential album killer. It's hard to imagine fans who have already downloaded the best songs a la carte from "Paper Trail" suddenly wanting to reinvest and pay $15 to own them all again. On the other hand any album strong enough to have six singles before it even hits brick 'n mortar retail is probably going to be a certifiable banger start to finish. Fans who only bought one or two of these songs would definitely want to have the rest, especially since T.I. is one of the most popular rap artists to come out of Atlanta in the 21st century. Even those who had bought more could probably be persuaded to have a "hard copy" of all of the songs from one of their favorite MC's. It seems either way the risk of overexposure was one that both Alantic Records and T.I. were willing to take, with each single building up anticipation for "Paper Trail" as it simultaneously risked reaching the tipping point beyond which the album could flop.

Before addressing whether or not the risk paid off, let's address the singles individually. Things started off really hot all the way back in May of this year with the Danja produced "No Matter What." Besides having a hypnotic church-like musical backdrop and some crunk-ass melody, the opening verse was one of the most honest and raw of T.I.'s entire career, addressing his personal and legal problems and his supreme desire to overcome all obstacles in his way.

"Hey, hey never have you seen in your lifetime
A more divine sSuthern rapper with a swag like mine
Facin all kinda time, but smile like I'm fine
Brag with such passion and shine without tryin
Believe me, pain's a small thang to a giant
I was born without a dime, out the gutter I climbed
Spoke my mind and didn't stutter one time
Ali said even the greatest gotta suffer sometimes
So I huff and puff rhymes, lyrics so sick wit it
Set the standard in Atlanta how to get get get it
So you up and coming rappers wanna diss, just kill it
I'm officially the realest (yeah) point blank, period
Whether I still live in the hood or just visit
Whatever you can do in the hood, I done did it
That why the dope boys and the misfits feel it
This still the city long as TIP livin, nigga"

The emphatic chorus defines T.I. as well as he ever has in his entire career, with the stark declaration "I ain't dead, I ain't done; I ain't scared, I ain't run/But still I stand... no matter what pimpin' here I am." From there the releases from "Paper Trail" continued to escalate in both dopeness and impact. The Jim Jonsin produced "Whatever You Like" blazed up radio with T.I. busting out the Bankhead version of Nelly or Flo Rida, giving his rap a musical flow that matched perfectly with the song's smooth electronic bounce. For those looking for something a little harder, "Swing Ya Rag" featuring (and produced by) Swizz Beatz put over T.I. as one of the hardest ballers with the biggest bankroll in all of the South. It's perhaps ironic that a sound with so much club appeal would feature a chorus stating "I don't dance, no way/I just take my Louis rag out and wave it 'round in the air" but so be it.

Three hot singles right off the bat, that's certainly not unprecedented for an upcoming album - everyone from the aforementioned Nelly to Jay-Z has done that before. What was really surprising about "Paper Trail" was when three more dropped IN THE SPAN OF TEN DAYS. From September 2nd through September 10th the internet kept blowing up, starting with "What Up, What's Haapnin'" and followed four days later by "Swagga Like Us" until eventually finishing with "Live Your Life." Arguably each song serves a different and valuable purpose for Atlantic and T.I. "What Up, What's Haapnin'" is a Drumma Boy production at a time when DB is one of the most ON FIRE producers in all of rap, cranking out hits like "Put On" for Young Jeezy and "Umma Do Me" for Rocko time after time. The song doesn't deviate from that formula and is ear-pleasing as a result, but "Swagga Like Us" may be one of the MOST unusual singles that ANY hip-hop artist has put out since Jeru the Damaja's "Come Clean." Kanye West went all the way beyond traditional rap into a mind-bending, noisy, warbling and exaggerated electronic melody, stitched together in the chorus by a sample taken from M.I.A.'s hit song "Paper Planes." Not only did the song go experimental, the guest rap roster from Kanye to Jay-Z to Lil Wayne were adjusting their braggadocious vocals with AutoTune even when NOT singing. The whole presentation could have been overwhelming but T.I.'s down to earth final verse not only grounds the song but steals the show in flow:

"Ay, you can go see Weezy for the wordplay, Jeezy for the bird play
Kanyeezy for diversity and me for controversy
I'm a verse that's picture perfect, only spit to serve a purpose
You ain't livin what you kickin then you worthless!
Lookin from the surface it may seem like I got reason to be nervous
Then observe my work to see if my adversity was worth it
Verse is autobiographical, absolutely classical
Last thing I'm worried 'bout is what another rapper do
Ain't nobody hot as me; even if they rap they ass off
blast off and have outstandin qualities
Sell a lot of records, I'll respect it and salute that
But spin real life on hot beats, I'm the truth at
You kick it like me, no exaggeration necessary
Livin revolutionary, nuttin less than legendary
Gangsta shit hereditary, got it from my dad
Flow colder than February with extraordinary swag!"

When the story of the year 2008 in rap is written, regardless of how "Paper Trail" does in sales, the song "Swagga Like Us" will go down as one of the year's most memorable tracks. In fact to be perfectly honest about it, following up with "Live Your Life" featuring Rihanna was unnecessary. The first problem with the track is the choice of sample - jacking from the infamous "Numa Numa" fad that dominated YouTube for far too long (the "Dragostea din tei" song by O-Zone). To be honest I don't feel that Just Blaze flipped it up enough to make it worth hearing the ten-thousandth time, and hearing Rihanna try to sing new words in the same melody and tempo as this insipid track makes it even worse. I thought three singles was more than plenty, five was really pushing it, but "Live Your Life" was a song that I absolutely wouldn't have dropped to promote a hardcore hip-hop star. Perhaps T.I. is trying to prove he has a sense of humor and that he's not afraid to be compared to Gary Brolsma, but this song is so irritating it shouldn't have even been put on "Paper Trail" at all.

Fortunately for listeners this is the only serious mistake on the otherwise oustanding "Paper Trail," and having six singles off the album doesn't turn out to be overkill after all. T.I. wastes no time spitting "56 Bars" right from the album's beginning, giving all of his fans exactly what they were waiting for with no filler or BS, proclaiming himself "without the braids the closest thing to O-Dog." It's followed closely by the Chuck Diesel banger "I'm Illy" with some of T.I.'s most braggadocious lyrics to date:

"How could a nigga think that he could see me
Other than the magazine covers or the TV
Know I sold mo' mixtapes than your CD
You're waitin on your big break, prayin you can be me!"

It's that sense of confidence and "extraordinary swag" that carries T.I. through all the trials and tribulations of his life, including beefs with multiple Southern artists and a rap sheet sheet with as many criminal hits as he has chart hits. With his slick talking and often surprisingly introspective flow (noting on "Ready for Whatever" that "even though my head in the clouds, I'm planted on the pavement") T.I.'s ability to flip it fast or slow and maintain clear diction on his flow even with a distinctive Georgia accent sets him far apart from his contemporaries. In other words, T.I. is just as much of a star as he thinks he is, and when you believe in yourself and have great ability you can achieve great things. You can hear him reaching for the stars and grabbing hold even on songs that HAVEN'T been released as singles, songs which EASILY would have been better choices than "Live Your Life." Trench Werk's "On Top of the World" featuring Ludacris and B.o.B. is just one. "My Life Your Entertainment" with R&B crooner Usher is another. It would be more than fair to say "Live Your Life" is the only really offensive song on the whole album, and it may be that people who aren't familiar with "Numa Numa" may find it far less annoying than this critic does. It's actually fairly ballsy that they would release an experimental song such as "Swagga Like Us" as a single compared to surefire choices like "Slide Show" with John Legend and the album's finale "Dead and Gone" featuring Justin Timberlake, but that just goes to show how complete of an album "Paper Trail" is.

With very little filler and a strong selection of songs from start to finish, the hype that this is potentially "album of the year" according to Atlantic Records may ACTUALLY be true. There's still three months left in 2008 and a fairly good year of albums leading up to this point, but whoever wants to take T.I.'s #1 spot after today is going to have to put it in overdrive in a MAJOR way. Congratulations to T.I. on finding the perfect balance of comedy and tragedy, swagger and humble attitude, pop music and hardcore hip-hop, living up to the nickname "Jay-Z of the South" in a big way.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: hellrazor86 on September 30, 2008, 02:22:10 PM
lol at u guys avoiding the review and acting like i didn't just post 2 other reviews; i am now reviewing albums. paper trail came out today. i reviewed it like i did term/big kuntry new albums. get over it.
tell 'em homie !!!!!!!!

Nice review ;)
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 02:30:44 PM
lol at u guys avoiding the review and acting like i didn't just post 2 other reviews; i am now reviewing albums. paper trail came out today. i reviewed it like i did term/big kuntry new albums. get over it.
tell 'em homie !!!!!!!!

Nice review ;)
thx a lot!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 02:34:18 PM
Well, it's definetly biased, just by reading it's clear what your emotions towards T.I. are. Other than that I enjoyed reading the review, altough I strongly disagree with a) Whatever You Like being a "hot" single and Swagger Like Us being the most unpredictable single since the 90's (or something like that).
LMAO that ain't my review dog
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: es-jay on September 30, 2008, 02:42:50 PM
first few paragraphs were very well written, then it just sort of slid off...

some parts were poorly worded, i selected several but thought i better not draw your attention to them and be tarred a 'hater' like everybody else.


oh, and i was distracted while i read the review: http://raptalk.net/website/content/view/882/56/


keep at it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on September 30, 2008, 02:43:21 PM
Itunes Bonus Song

Collect Call
Prod. By Nard & B
http://www.mediafire.com/?v2tqjuymdtv
dope.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 02:44:33 PM
first few paragraphs were very well written, then it just sort of slid off...
some parts were poorly worded, i selected several but thought i better draw your attention to them and be tarred a 'hater' like everybody
else.
oh, and i was distracted while i read the review: http://raptalk.net/website/content/view/882/56/
keep at it.
thanks for readin it
i wouldn't call u a hater for that
u got me misunderstood
haters are the ppl in here hatin' without even readin
u actually read it
thanks a lot
yes sir q-tip!
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: --Vance-- on September 30, 2008, 02:48:03 PM
Props for the review and stop hating! You made some good points.
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 02:59:50 PM
Props for the review and stop hating! You made some good points.
thanks a lot!
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Blood$ on September 30, 2008, 03:08:54 PM
+1 for the review

on a side note, I just copped the album at Target today and got that lil' DVD it came with... money well spent  8)
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on September 30, 2008, 03:18:32 PM
I thought the first few paragraphs felt like kind of a drag. It took a while to get to the actual review. But it was good, I disagree with some of the things u said about certain tracks but u were on point with tracks like 'You Aint Missin Nothin', 'Every Chance I Get', and 'Dead & Gone'. Good review homie, Props. I'm still uncertain whether or not I'ma buy this.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 03:25:07 PM
Blood Money: Thanks! Picked up my copy today as well!
Nicc: Thanks for reading! it's a great album, pick it up!
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 30, 2008, 03:46:34 PM
this is my professionally written review for the album for a hip-hop website which i contribute content to. it deserves a new thread because i put a lot of work into it. stop being a little crybaby and don't enter the thread if it really bothers u

i try avoiding them but its all i see. when i check the outbound section all i see is at least 5-7 ti topics started by you, and then with Classic Thread and BiggSaddot goin back n forth with other dudes.

word, those two are the reason TI has much hate on this board. they make stupid comments about TI. then they make every other thread about TI. like if theres a thread about Nas, they bring up how TI is better and how they think he looks cute in his shades. :P

like H2K4 said, it should be renamed the TI-Bound Section lol. no matter what topic it will end up with a statement like "TI>>>>>>>the rap game".

as far for this review, its cool. if yall dont like it, make your own review of the album. i mean no offense to Luna but what does opinon matter? if you think you can make a better review, please, show us an UNBIASED one. this isnt biased imo...
Title: Re: T.I. "Paper Trail" Album Review!
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 03:47:14 PM
this isnt biased imo...
thanks..
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 03:48:09 PM
my review is positive..rapreviews.com was extremely positive..and here's another..they keep flowin in ;)

T.I. Grand Hustle/Atlantic. 16 tracks.
Grade: B+

http://www.accessatlanta.com/music/c...view_0930.html
Quote:
Facing a year and a day of prison time, one might think that Atlanta’s T.I. would do anything but begin his new album with a track titled “56 Bars.”

But that’s the really good thing about “Paper Trail” — it is everything and nothing you would expect from the hip-hop superstar.
And by everything, yes, that means T.I. is the same charismatically slick, super-boastful, profanity-spewing T.I. who’s sold millions of his previous five CDs. (Never mind that outside of recording studios, he’s giving motivational speeches in schools and church services to fulfill some 1,000-plus hours of community service, part of a guilty plea for felony weapons charges. He’s due to be sentenced in March 2009.)
The introduction, in fact — “56 Bars” — is basically one long brag with the audacity to begin: “This [is] what the folk been waiting on.” But T.I. does his assertion no favors with the track that follows. “I’m Illy” stumbles with a hook too similar to “Get Silly” by the less talented V.I.C.
T.I. is better than that, and rhymes better from that point on.
The next single, “Ready For Whatever,” answers the question every fan had last year when the Grammy winner (and convicted felon) — on his way to the BET Hip Hop Awards where he was the leading nominee — decided to detour to a Midtown Walgreens to buy machine guns and silencers.
That question, of course, is why?!
“If your life was in jeopardy everyday is you telling me you wouldn’t need weaponry, just because of your felonies?” T.I. asks in “Ready.” “Consider this at least — I’ve got everybody sweating me. On the streets is people who won’t rest unless I rest in peace. Killed my folk a year ago still in my sleep they threaten me … I’m dealing with depression from my partner dying next to me. Think cause no one’s arrested they coming for me eventually. See this was all the things that I was going through mentally.”
In the end, “I’m wrong and I know it” T.I. adds.
If “Ready” is riveting for its openness, “Live Your Life” (featuring Rihanna) is on mark for its pop anthem potential, while “Swagga Like Us” (featuring Jay-Z, Kanye West and Lil Wayne) has rap star power, and “Porn Star” is, well, X-rated smolder.
But again, that’s T.I. as you would expect.
So what’s the unexpected? That he actually sings an entire song on his recent — and first — No. 1 pop single in the country, “Whatever You Like.” Also surprising is that he recruits A-list artists (Ludacris, Usher, John Legend, Justin Timberlake), with whom he only comes up with “B” or “B-” songs.
And in curious, 2Pac-like fashion, he uses the subject of facing — and enduring — prison time to craft one of his best songs here, “You Ain’t Missin’ Nothing.”
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 30, 2008, 05:53:21 PM
it's crazy how old this album gets
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on September 30, 2008, 06:03:19 PM
AHH gave it a 7.5
http://www.allhiphop.com/stories/reviewsmusic/archive/2008/09/23/20520490.aspx

When T.I.P. ran his initial campaign in 2003 to be anointed “King of the South,” he made a compelling case with his dismantling of then commercially viable Lil Flip, and his breakout third LP Urban Legend. Met with little resistance, T.I. went on to further build his legacy and become a mainstream star with KING, T.I. vs. T.I.P., and the 2006 film ATL.

With the success came challengers, as rivals began questioning T.I.’s credibility as an artist and his claim of being the South’s premier MC. Now learning that defending the crown is harder than chasing it, T.I. seeks to continue his reign and quiet critics with his sixth studio album Paper Trail (Grand Hustle/Atlantic).

The album begins appropriately with the lyrical dexterity of “56 Bars (Intro).” With regal authority, TIP dissects then dismisses his less talented naysayers without ever having to call out a name. Reunited with the producer that’s crafted his biggest hits, DJ Toomp’s pulsing bass lines fit perfectly with the Bankhead star’s cocksure demeanor; setting a good start for the disc.

That focus continues on their second album collaboration “I’m Illy.” Again in battle mode, T.I. juxtaposes his achievements with a thinly veiled, local Atlanta rapper who aspires to the king’s throne in mind.

For the first time, TIP addresses in detail the events that lead to his gun prosecution on “Ready For Whatever.” Over Drumma Boy’s urgent but sprawling synths, T.I. makes a compelling argument for his need for weapons, explaining the murder of his best friend before his eyes despite the six figures he already pays for security. What makes the track work so well is that TIP is brave enough to leave his Rap persona at the door and reveal the fear that fueled his rash decisions.

The middle half of the album is dominated by a long string of commercial and pop tracks which contribute a mixed bag to the LP. “On Top of the World” features T.I.’s first partnership with former heated rival Ludacris and rising ATL newcomer B.O.B. Instead of a confrontational song, the Atlanta headliners produced a joyous track detailing their many accomplishments. While it works, the collaboration will likely do little to deter the talk of those still wishing for both men to pick up where “Stomp” left off.

The back to back syrupy singles “Live Your Life” and “Whatever You Like” follow next. Smart fans will recognize that these songs are necessary to appeal to the king’s pop constituency, but that doesn’t cancel out that they are commercial fluff that does nothing for the LP.

Danja’s bluesy, organ-tinged musicianship on “No Matter What” gets things back in order with T.I.’s assertions of triumph over his many personal struggles. “Swing Ya Rag” has him in lyrically weaving Swizz Beatz’s signature rhythms into another guaranteed infectious hit in the vein of “Bring ‘Em Out.”

On the all-star collaboration “Swagger Like Us,” Kanye West, Jay-Z and Lil Wayne all make convincing cases why their swagger supersedes all others. While some will undoubtedly find the continued auto-tune effects from Kanye and Wayne clichéd, both men deliver good set up verses for T.I., who in the coveted last spot slightly edges out a clever Jay-Z verse by dismantling the M.I.A. sampling track with a rapid closing succession of consonance-heavy lyrics.

Even with distractions ranging from legal woes to petty and childish territorial “beef,” T.I. has managed to craft an album that gives listeners the standout moments they expect from the Bankhead star. Paper Trail’s achievements are enough to remind fans why they fell in love with T.I. back in 2003, and keep his tenuous title as “King of the South” in place for the immediate future.

 

Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 06:04:42 PM
rap-reviews 9/10 and called best album of year
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on September 30, 2008, 06:13:31 PM
rap-reviews 9/10 and called best album of year


rap reviews also gives everything a high rating
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 06:14:16 PM
rap-reviews 9/10 and called best album of year
rap reviews also gives everything a high rating
usually 8
9 is good
and they don't call every cd album of the year  ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on September 30, 2008, 06:31:35 PM
well I just finished typing a long ass paper for school, while bumping the album, and I'm in the zone so fuck it I'll post my review too lol

01. 56 Barz - 4/5, nice way to open the album, T.I. spits nothing but heat and it is a good sign of what is to come
02. Im Illy - 5/5, this track is crazy... sick ass beat by Chuck Diesel and T.I. kills it... something like this was missing from the last album
03. Ready for Whatever - 4/5, it was good to see T.I. finally do a track speaking on his charges and it came out nice
04. On Top of the World (Feat. Ludacris and B.O.B) - 4.5/5, I'm loving this joint... B.o.B kills the hook and both T.I. and Luda go hard, beat is nice as well
05. Live Your Life (Feat. Rihanna) - 4.5/5, yeah it's more of a pop song but I don't care what people have to say, this is my shit... T.I. went in and Rihanna did her thing on this one 8)
06. Whatever You Like - 3.5/5, I HATED this at first, especially T.I. singing the whole thing, but it did end up growing on me and I can play this one now
07. No Matter What - 4.5/5, liked it when I first heard it and it still isn't even overplayed for me yet... T.I. shows a lot of growth on this track lyrically and with his flow
08. My Life Your Entertainment (Feat. Usher) - 4/5, this was better than I expected, not that I thought it would be wack, but I thought it was going to be just another pop song on the album, but it's a good track, Usher killed the hook
09. Porn Star - 3/5, worst track on the album easily but it's not horrible, I don't think it will grow on me though
10. Swing Ya Rag (Feat. Swizz Beatz) - 4/5, I wasn't crazy about the hook at first but I always liked the beat and T.I. killed it, now I think this one is a banger
11. What Up Whats Haapnin' - 4.5/5, looove this track as well, everything about it is dope, and he basically puts the nail in Shawty Lo's coffin without even saying his name  ;D
12. Every Chance I Get - 4.5/5, great followup to the previous song, T.I. remains on point and DJ Toomp provides another banger
13. Swagga Like Us (Feat. Kanye West Jay-Z Lil Wayne) - 4/5, I can see why this track is overrated by some but it's kool with me, nothing classic, but far from wack... everybody did their thing IMO, but T.I. had the best verse without question
14. Slide Show (Feat. John Legend) - 4/5, nice track, I don't have much to say about it really other than John Legend's hook was dope and T.I. was also dope on it
15. You Aint Missin Nothing - 4/5, one of the more personal tracks on the album, T.I. put a lot into it and I haven't heard any other prison tracks like this one
16. Dead and Gone - 4.5/5, this was the best song to end the album off with, Justin Timberlake did a good job with the hook and on the production tip and T.I. ended on a good note

overall I give this album a 4/5, this was one of the best albums to come out in 2008 and is definitely in my top 10 for the year... no wack songs on it and it can be played all the way through IMO... not quite a classic, but a solid release from T.I., and it shits all over his last album... some may not like this because it's too "pop" but it didn't bother me personally... I recommend y'all go out and cop this one and support T.I. cuz he deserves it for delivering a dope album

TOP TRACKS:
I'm Illy
On Top Of The World
No Matter What
What's Up, What's Haapnin'
Every Chance I Get
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 06:33:02 PM
^props for ya review
Toomp didn't do I'm Illy though
Chuck Diesel did
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on September 30, 2008, 06:34:07 PM
damn I thought Toomp did, gonna have to fix that error
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: S P I C E on September 30, 2008, 06:34:59 PM
it's crazy how old this album gets

you hate on everything that isnt westcoast, LAME
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on September 30, 2008, 06:35:32 PM
damn I thought Toomp did, gonna have to fix that error
all good
toomp did the intro and every chance i get
some (like me) thought he also did you aint missin nothin and on top of the world
you aint missin nothin - drumma boy
on top of the world - nard & b
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on September 30, 2008, 08:04:03 PM
this is straight insanity! :yikes:
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on September 30, 2008, 09:51:20 PM
Anyone get the bonus dvd?? I was wondering what was on it, if anyone seen it. 8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on October 01, 2008, 03:49:18 AM
Anyone get the bonus dvd?? I was wondering what was on it, if anyone seen it. 8)

I have it, it's a 30 minute interview of T.I. basically just speaking on the album and what not... it's straight to watch one time  8)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 12:20:21 PM
^cool!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 01, 2008, 01:56:38 PM
it's crazy how old this album gets

here we go again
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 03:05:45 PM
Anyone get the bonus dvd?? I was wondering what was on it, if anyone seen it. 8)

I have it, it's a 30 minute interview of T.I. basically just speaking on the album and what not... it's straight to watch one time  8)
you bought it from target ?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: 1234 on October 01, 2008, 03:09:43 PM
Can someone give me a little review of the album? I heard its his best album since Trap Muzik.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 03:15:14 PM
Can someone give me a little review of the album? I heard its his best album since Trap Muzik.
it's definitely one of his best. i'll say it's arguably his best yet. it's a great album though. next album he might write half and go off the top the other half.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 03:25:49 PM
Can someone give me a little review of the album? I heard its his best album since Trap Muzik.
www.rapreviews.com
MY raptalk review - http://raptalk.net/website/content/view/885/56/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 03:33:22 PM
hitsdailydouble.com:
It’s all about the Dirty South next week, as rap entrepreneur’s sixth release, the Grand Hustle/Atlantic album Paper Trail, will debut on top of the HITS sales chart with 550k next week, fueled by the #1 CHR/Rhythmic single, “Whatever You Like.”

Sohh:
The rapper’s previous album T.I. vs. T.I.P. debuted at No. 1 in its first week in 2007 selling 468,000 copies. Popular industry website Hits Daily Double is projecting the new set to sell the about the same numbers in its first week, setting the number at 467,000

Quite the gap between 470K and 550K LOL! hopefully 550K is the accurate 1..
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Blood$ on October 01, 2008, 03:39:22 PM
Anyone get the bonus dvd?? I was wondering what was on it, if anyone seen it. 8)

I have it, it's a 30 minute interview of T.I. basically just speaking on the album and what not... it's straight to watch one time  8)
you bought it from target ?

yeah, I had 2 gift cards that I had won for Target and I caught the commercial for the album saying it had the bonus DVD, so I said fuck it, why not? lol
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 03:43:20 PM
^good decision, hot album :P
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2008, 04:17:37 PM
Can someone give me a little review of the album? I heard its his best album since Trap Muzik.
it's definitely one of his best. i'll say it's arguably his best yet. it's a great album though. next album he might write half and go off the top the other half.

you did say that Trap Muzik is better than Illmatic...and if your going to say this is arguably better than Trap Muzik, basically your statement is that Paper Trail is arguably better than Illmatic. :o
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 04:18:29 PM
Trap Muzik > Paper Trail (ofcourse)

Trap Muzik is a classic hip-hop album

Paper Trail is solid and I think I will put it at TI's 2nd best.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2008, 04:40:56 PM
Trap Muzik > Paper Trail (ofcourse)

Trap Muzik is a classic hip-hop album

Paper Trail is solid and I think I will put it at TI's 2nd best.

over King?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 04:46:03 PM
Can someone give me a little review of the album? I heard its his best album since Trap Muzik.
it's definitely one of his best. i'll say it's arguably his best yet. it's a great album though. next album he might write half and go off the top the other half.

you did say that Trap Muzik is better than Illmatic...and if your going to say this is arguably better than Trap Muzik, basically your statement is that Paper Trail is arguably better than Illmatic. :o
well illmatic is a classic album and to me i think doggystyle is better than illmatic. it's a few albums i think is better than that. when i say paper trail is better than his previous i go by lyrics(even though i like it better when he don't write) because productionwise he always come wit it.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 04:51:28 PM
Trap Muzik > Paper Trail (ofcourse)
Trap Muzik is a classic hip-hop album
Paper Trail is solid and I think I will put it at TI's 2nd best.
over King?
King was SICK but had some weak cuts imo (stand up guy & get it) and some avg cuts (im straight, told you so). Paper Trail is literally just a tad better.

Trap Muzik - 9.5/10
Paper Trail - 8.75/10
King - 8.5/10
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 05:04:33 PM
Trap Muzik > Paper Trail (ofcourse)
Trap Muzik is a classic hip-hop album
Paper Trail is solid and I think I will put it at TI's 2nd best.
over King?
King was SICK but had some weak cuts imo (stand up guy & get it) and some avg cuts (im straight, told you so). Paper Trail is literally just a tad better.

Trap Muzik - 9.5/10
Paper Trail - 8.75/10
King - 8.5/10

to me the only bad song on king was stand up guy. the rest was fire.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 05:05:07 PM
^HATED the beat on get it..
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 06:24:59 PM
^HATED the beat on get it..
interesting.....i thought that was one of swizz best beats.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: S P I C E on October 01, 2008, 06:34:48 PM
I gave this album a quick spin last night and TI stepped up his lyrics alot!  Hes always been good but he is spittin alot better in Paper Trail, Im gonna give this album a proper listen tonight
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 07:02:43 PM
i'm already anticipating the next album.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2008, 07:11:58 PM
i'm already anticipating the next album.

after he serves his time?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 07:13:08 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2008, 07:16:06 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then

is he allowed a pen and pad in there? he could make two albums, and by the time hes done...hell be walkin out of jail.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 07:18:21 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then

is he allowed a pen and pad in there? he could make two albums, and by the time hes done...hell be walkin out of jail.
of course he'll be allowed a pen/pad..he goes to prison like march 09..be out by top of 2010 for sure..i can see atlantic releasing some sort of TI project while he locked up
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 01, 2008, 07:22:19 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then

is he allowed a pen and pad in there? he could make two albums, and by the time hes done...hell be walkin out of jail.
of course he'll be allowed a pen/pad..he goes to prison like march 09..be out by top of 2010 for sure..i can see atlantic releasing some sort of TI project while he locked up

so TI will still be plenty relevant when he comes out. not a big deal...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 07:23:33 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then

is he allowed a pen and pad in there? he could make two albums, and by the time hes done...hell be walkin out of jail.
of course he'll be allowed a pen/pad..he goes to prison like march 09..be out by top of 2010 for sure..i can see atlantic releasing some sort of TI project while he locked up
so TI will still be plenty relevant when he comes out. not a big deal...
oh ya..he already did 9 months in 2003..this will be around 9 months as well..no big deal..
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 01, 2008, 07:36:44 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then

is he allowed a pen and pad in there? he could make two albums, and by the time hes done...hell be walkin out of jail.
of course he'll be allowed a pen/pad..he goes to prison like march 09..be out by top of 2010 for sure..i can see atlantic releasing some sort of TI project while he locked up
so TI will still be plenty relevant when he comes out. not a big deal...
oh ya..he already did 9 months in 2003..this will be around 9 months as well..no big deal..
2004. he had already started urban legend and stayed working on it while on work release until he came home officially. the next album should be out next year probably (4th quarter). he's probably already started working on it as he's always done previously.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 01, 2008, 07:44:50 PM
^lol for real we won't be gettin' the next TI album til' winter 2010 or so most likely unless he avoids the time

this album is dope let's appreciate it til then

is he allowed a pen and pad in there? he could make two albums, and by the time hes done...hell be walkin out of jail.
of course he'll be allowed a pen/pad..he goes to prison like march 09..be out by top of 2010 for sure..i can see atlantic releasing some sort of TI project while he locked up
so TI will still be plenty relevant when he comes out. not a big deal...
oh ya..he already did 9 months in 2003..this will be around 9 months as well..no big deal..
2004. the next album should be out next year. he's probably already started working on it as he's always done.
my bad, ya it was 2004; in between trap muzik and urban legend.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 02, 2008, 05:16:13 AM
i'm already anticipating the next album.

after he serves his time?
yeah. he said he think he's gonna write half and go off the top the other half.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 02, 2008, 10:54:49 AM
^that would be cool!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 02, 2008, 11:04:47 AM
^that would be cool!
hell yeah.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 02, 2008, 11:19:41 AM
i'm already anticipating the next album.

after he serves his time?
yeah. he said he think he's gonna write half and go off the top the other half.

would be tight
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: D-Nice on October 02, 2008, 12:41:49 PM
Man this album is the shit. Very lyrical, probably lyrically his best so far.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: thisoneguy360 on October 02, 2008, 07:47:18 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 02, 2008, 11:40:52 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 03, 2008, 04:37:53 AM
^great to hear u 2 liked it!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 03, 2008, 08:43:29 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 03, 2008, 09:58:27 PM

Keith Caulfield, L.A.
T.I.'s "Paper Trail" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic) is on course to debut at No. 1 on The Billboard 200 next week. The rapper's sixth studio set leads Nielsen SoundScan's Building chart, released today (Oct. 3). Unweighted sales of "Paper Trail" through the close of business yesterday stood at 357,000.

Billboard estimates the nine merchants who report to Nielsen SoundScan's Building chart -- Trans World Entertainment, Best Buy, Circuit City, iTunes, Starbucks, Borders, Target, Anderson Merchandisers and Handleman Co. -- comprise about 80% of all U.S. album sales.

The 357,000 figure is the third-largest Friday Building Chart sum of the year, trailing only Lil Wayne's Cash Money/Universal Motown set "Tha Carter III" (630,000) and Coldplay's Capitol album "Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends" (459,000). Those two albums finished their first full week in stores shifting 1 million and 721,000, respectively.

If "Paper Trail" does hit No. 1, it will be T.I.'s third straight chart topper on The Billboard 200, following "King" in 2006 and "T.I. Vs. T.I.P." in 2007. "King" bowed with 522,000 while "T.I.P." landed with 468,000.


Next week's Billboard 200 will also greet handsome entries from Jennifer Hudson's self-titled debut (Arista) and Robin Thicke's "Something Else" (Star Trak/Interscope), both of which are looking good for top five debuts.

Other albums with a chance for a top 10 entry are Jack's Mannequin's "The Glass Passenger" (Sire/Warner Bros.), James Taylor's "Covers" (StarCon/Hear Music), Kellie Picker's self-titled sophomore album (BNA) and Ben Folds' "Way To Normal" (Epic).

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/..._id=1003870324
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 03, 2008, 11:37:24 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.

nope. ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on October 03, 2008, 11:54:08 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.

nope.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 04, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.

nope.
it is the best album this year.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 04, 2008, 02:30:46 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.

nope.
it is the best album this year.

maybe this month, but not the year lol.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 04, 2008, 02:52:07 PM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.

nope.
it is the best album this year.

maybe this month, but not the year lol.
this year period !!!!!!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Muhfukka on October 04, 2008, 11:06:03 PM
haha classic material what the fuck why do you need to defend ti so much
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 05, 2008, 12:01:54 AM
haha classic material what the fuck why do you need to defend ti so much

thats the million dollar question lol.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 05, 2008, 04:56:39 AM
haha classic material what the fuck why do you need to defend ti so much
because muthafuckas like you gotta get set straight.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 05, 2008, 04:58:31 AM
haha classic material what the fuck why do you need to defend ti so much

thats the million dollar question lol.
you niggas stay wit  my name in ya mouth. but it's cool.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: thisoneguy360 on October 05, 2008, 05:33:44 AM
haha classic material what the fuck why do you need to defend ti so much
because muthafuckas like you gotta get set straight.

Set straight? Just because someone doesn't think an album is as good as you doesn't mean they have to be set straight. Personally I thought the album was dope as fuck but c'mon now
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 05, 2008, 05:46:03 AM
haha classic material what the fuck why do you need to defend ti so much
because muthafuckas like you gotta get set straight.

Set straight? Just because someone doesn't think an album is as good as you doesn't mean they have to be set straight. Personally I thought the album was dope as fuck but c'mon now
you got it wrong. most of these muthafuckas when they mention tip wit some stupid shit to say they often include my name or others who happens to like tip's music. the album is out doing good so there's nothing to argue about.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: es-jay on October 05, 2008, 06:23:04 AM
a review from one of the best hip hop blogs

thought you'd be interested in this review.



The CEO of Grand Hustle and the self-proclaimed ‘King of the South’ has certainly made a name for himself in the last few years. His breakout came in 2003 with Trap Muzik and T.I. (Clifford Harris Jr.) became a household name for the radio listeners, the music video watchers, and the hardcore hip hop fans. He was a large part of the southern uprising in the hip hop scene and out of all the other artist (one hit wonder or not) coming out of the south who are as commercially successful as T.I., he easily stands head and shoulders above all of them. Paper Trail is T.I.’s return from a difficult year that included a firearms charge and a rather mediocre album (T.I. vs. T.I.P.) that had a lot of people wondering if he would return the skill-set he showed on one of the best releases of the 2006 year, King. This album is littered with narcissism, A-list guest appearances, and tracks for the ladies with a variety of production styles. T.I. had plenty of time to really focus on this album as he wrote it while being under house arrest for his pending charges. Does this writing relay nicely onto the disc or does it come off as a mash up of his frustrations and a need for him to remind veryone of his “swag”?


The DJ Toomp banger, “56 Bars,” starts off the album and has T.I. displaying a cocky tone to a lyrically boring track. The track comes off as three minutes of nothing because there is no structure to the rhyme scheme and lyrically it is more like a freestyle. So much for focused writing. Toomp is around again for another banger that suits T.I. extremely well, and the MC speaks of taking whatever he wants, when he wants it. Oh, he let’s us know how rich he is throughout the entire track to. Original. The cliché subject matter is even more hurtful when he drops the tracks “Whatever You Like” and “Porn Star.”

Just Blaze co-produces “Live Your Life” which contains one of the stupidest samples possible and features Rihanna stealing the show with her feature on the upbeat chorus. The lyrical content, although cliché, is very necessary given the recent struggles of the emcee. Similar thoughts are unleashed on the very good “Ready For Whatever,” which talks directly about all of his legal issues.

It’s not all bad; as noted, his lyricism is simply a sign of the times for him. “No Matter What” is a very nice track that is backed by a great beat that does allow T.I. to preach a positive message. The most solid track on the album is the closer, “Dead and Gone,” produced by the one and only Justin Timberlake. It is a destroy and rebuild story of a man, backed by the haunting piano and a Timberland-esque beat, T.I. lets loose with JT returning the favour T.I. gave him with “My Love.”

How about Timberlake coming on the album and dropping the best beat on the whole damn thing?! This could be because the production is rather stagnant. The big names like Kanye, Just Blaze and Swizz Beatz seem out of their element, but Toomp goes 2 for 2.

A great quality about T.I. is his ability to carry a track regardless of how much it is deemed to not provide anything relevant. “I’m Illy” is a prime example of a song that shouldn’t be as good as it actually is because T.I. is able to lift up the production with his much improved flow and hunger. The problem is that this hunger seems too inconsistent throughout the album. “Swagger like Us” features Jay-Z, Lil Wayne and Kanye (both on the mic and production), but, it is still T.I. who drops the best verse on the song and possibly the album. The track is very addictive, even if it is the four cockiest rappers in hip hop talking about how much they have.

To say that you are the “King of the South” is a bold statement that T.I. has not yet lived up to. Especially with artist that came before him like Andre 3000, Bun B and Scarface and artist like Phonte and Ludacris more than able to take that crown, it is a risky claim that could backfire. This album is a return to his form on King, although not as stellar of a release, Mr. Harris does maintain his own despite all of his hardships. It is unfortunate that some of the best tracks on the album came as a result of the inspiration he got from his legal issues; hopefully he can take that inspiration and transfer it to something beyond “swag.”

Overall Rating: 65/100

Standout Tracks:

“I’m Illy”

“No Matter What”

“Ready For Whatever”

“Swagger Like Us”


http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/10/03/ti-paper-trail/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 05, 2008, 06:53:38 AM
a review from one of the best hip hop blogs

thought you'd be interested in this review.



The CEO of Grand Hustle and the self-proclaimed ‘King of the South’ has certainly made a name for himself in the last few years. His breakout came in 2003 with Trap Muzik and T.I. (Clifford Harris Jr.) became a household name for the radio listeners, the music video watchers, and the hardcore hip hop fans. He was a large part of the southern uprising in the hip hop scene and out of all the other artist (one hit wonder or not) coming out of the south who are as commercially successful as T.I., he easily stands head and shoulders above all of them. Paper Trail is T.I.’s return from a difficult year that included a firearms charge and a rather mediocre album (T.I. vs. T.I.P.) that had a lot of people wondering if he would return the skill-set he showed on one of the best releases of the 2006 year, King. This album is littered with narcissism, A-list guest appearances, and tracks for the ladies with a variety of production styles. T.I. had plenty of time to really focus on this album as he wrote it while being under house arrest for his pending charges. Does this writing relay nicely onto the disc or does it come off as a mash up of his frustrations and a need for him to remind veryone of his “swag”?


The DJ Toomp banger, “56 Bars,” starts off the album and has T.I. displaying a cocky tone to a lyrically boring track. The track comes off as three minutes of nothing because there is no structure to the rhyme scheme and lyrically it is more like a freestyle. So much for focused writing. Toomp is around again for another banger that suits T.I. extremely well, and the MC speaks of taking whatever he wants, when he wants it. Oh, he let’s us know how rich he is throughout the entire track to. Original. The cliché subject matter is even more hurtful when he drops the tracks “Whatever You Like” and “Porn Star.”

Just Blaze co-produces “Live Your Life” which contains one of the stupidest samples possible and features Rihanna stealing the show with her feature on the upbeat chorus. The lyrical content, although cliché, is very necessary given the recent struggles of the emcee. Similar thoughts are unleashed on the very good “Ready For Whatever,” which talks directly about all of his legal issues.

It’s not all bad; as noted, his lyricism is simply a sign of the times for him. “No Matter What” is a very nice track that is backed by a great beat that does allow T.I. to preach a positive message. The most solid track on the album is the closer, “Dead and Gone,” produced by the one and only Justin Timberlake. It is a destroy and rebuild story of a man, backed by the haunting piano and a Timberland-esque beat, T.I. lets loose with JT returning the favour T.I. gave him with “My Love.”

How about Timberlake coming on the album and dropping the best beat on the whole damn thing?! This could be because the production is rather stagnant. The big names like Kanye, Just Blaze and Swizz Beatz seem out of their element, but Toomp goes 2 for 2.

A great quality about T.I. is his ability to carry a track regardless of how much it is deemed to not provide anything relevant. “I’m Illy” is a prime example of a song that shouldn’t be as good as it actually is because T.I. is able to lift up the production with his much improved flow and hunger. The problem is that this hunger seems too inconsistent throughout the album. “Swagger like Us” features Jay-Z, Lil Wayne and Kanye (both on the mic and production), but, it is still T.I. who drops the best verse on the song and possibly the album. The track is very addictive, even if it is the four cockiest rappers in hip hop talking about how much they have.

To say that you are the “King of the South” is a bold statement that T.I. has not yet lived up to. Especially with artist that came before him like Andre 3000, Bun B and Scarface and artist like Phonte and Ludacris more than able to take that crown, it is a risky claim that could backfire. This album is a return to his form on King, although not as stellar of a release, Mr. Harris does maintain his own despite all of his hardships. It is unfortunate that some of the best tracks on the album came as a result of the inspiration he got from his legal issues; hopefully he can take that inspiration and transfer it to something beyond “swag.”

Overall Rating: 65/100

Standout Tracks:

“I’m Illy”

“No Matter What”

“Ready For Whatever”

“Swagger Like Us”


http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/10/03/ti-paper-trail/
the review is half assed. fortunately the album is out and the positive response says otherwise.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 05, 2008, 09:01:39 AM
props..reviews have mostly been major positive
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 05, 2008, 12:29:34 PM
a review from one of the best hip hop blogs

thought you'd be interested in this review.



The CEO of Grand Hustle and the self-proclaimed ‘King of the South’ has certainly made a name for himself in the last few years. His breakout came in 2003 with Trap Muzik and T.I. (Clifford Harris Jr.) became a household name for the radio listeners, the music video watchers, and the hardcore hip hop fans. He was a large part of the southern uprising in the hip hop scene and out of all the other artist (one hit wonder or not) coming out of the south who are as commercially successful as T.I., he easily stands head and shoulders above all of them. Paper Trail is T.I.’s return from a difficult year that included a firearms charge and a rather mediocre album (T.I. vs. T.I.P.) that had a lot of people wondering if he would return the skill-set he showed on one of the best releases of the 2006 year, King. This album is littered with narcissism, A-list guest appearances, and tracks for the ladies with a variety of production styles. T.I. had plenty of time to really focus on this album as he wrote it while being under house arrest for his pending charges. Does this writing relay nicely onto the disc or does it come off as a mash up of his frustrations and a need for him to remind veryone of his “swag”?


The DJ Toomp banger, “56 Bars,” starts off the album and has T.I. displaying a cocky tone to a lyrically boring track. The track comes off as three minutes of nothing because there is no structure to the rhyme scheme and lyrically it is more like a freestyle. So much for focused writing. Toomp is around again for another banger that suits T.I. extremely well, and the MC speaks of taking whatever he wants, when he wants it. Oh, he let’s us know how rich he is throughout the entire track to. Original. The cliché subject matter is even more hurtful when he drops the tracks “Whatever You Like” and “Porn Star.”

Just Blaze co-produces “Live Your Life” which contains one of the stupidest samples possible and features Rihanna stealing the show with her feature on the upbeat chorus. The lyrical content, although cliché, is very necessary given the recent struggles of the emcee. Similar thoughts are unleashed on the very good “Ready For Whatever,” which talks directly about all of his legal issues.

It’s not all bad; as noted, his lyricism is simply a sign of the times for him. “No Matter What” is a very nice track that is backed by a great beat that does allow T.I. to preach a positive message. The most solid track on the album is the closer, “Dead and Gone,” produced by the one and only Justin Timberlake. It is a destroy and rebuild story of a man, backed by the haunting piano and a Timberland-esque beat, T.I. lets loose with JT returning the favour T.I. gave him with “My Love.”

How about Timberlake coming on the album and dropping the best beat on the whole damn thing?! This could be because the production is rather stagnant. The big names like Kanye, Just Blaze and Swizz Beatz seem out of their element, but Toomp goes 2 for 2.

A great quality about T.I. is his ability to carry a track regardless of how much it is deemed to not provide anything relevant. “I’m Illy” is a prime example of a song that shouldn’t be as good as it actually is because T.I. is able to lift up the production with his much improved flow and hunger. The problem is that this hunger seems too inconsistent throughout the album. “Swagger like Us” features Jay-Z, Lil Wayne and Kanye (both on the mic and production), but, it is still T.I. who drops the best verse on the song and possibly the album. The track is very addictive, even if it is the four cockiest rappers in hip hop talking about how much they have.

To say that you are the “King of the South” is a bold statement that T.I. has not yet lived up to. Especially with artist that came before him like Andre 3000, Bun B and Scarface and artist like Phonte and Ludacris more than able to take that crown, it is a risky claim that could backfire. This album is a return to his form on King, although not as stellar of a release, Mr. Harris does maintain his own despite all of his hardships. It is unfortunate that some of the best tracks on the album came as a result of the inspiration he got from his legal issues; hopefully he can take that inspiration and transfer it to something beyond “swag.”

Overall Rating: 65/100

Standout Tracks:

“I’m Illy”

“No Matter What”

“Ready For Whatever”

“Swagger Like Us”


http://kevinnottingham.com/myblog/2008/10/03/ti-paper-trail/
the review is half assed. fortunately the album is out and the positive response says otherwise.

its clearly half assed. who doesn't love this classic album? ::)

hmm, im still trying to figure out why everyone on this board ALWAYS relates you to TI... :eh: :P
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on October 05, 2008, 05:38:22 PM
paper trail single-handedly saved hip hop
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 05, 2008, 05:39:03 PM
paper trail single-handedly saved hip hop
i'll have to agree

 :laugh: ::)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Muhfukka on October 05, 2008, 06:00:01 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 05, 2008, 07:23:43 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Muhfukka on October 05, 2008, 08:24:17 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
try to enjoy his music? i just heard that whatever you like song for the first time earlier today, and i have to say that is one of the WORST "rap" songs ever made. and here is this bitch classic material trying so desperately to defend that shit. go ahead and "diss" me i dont give a fuck about your little nerd points
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 05, 2008, 08:31:12 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
try to enjoy his music? i just heard that whatever you like song for the first time earlier today, and i have to say that is one of the WORST "rap" songs ever made. and here is this bitch classic material trying so desperately to defend that shit. go ahead and "diss" me i dont give a fuck about your little nerd points

na ur a cool dude +1. everyone on this board gets like you when they meet Classic lol. most always be tellin him hes retarded & im guilty as charged lol. something you just gotta learn to deal with. i dont know if i would call Whatever You Like a rap song, but its definatly not good. Paper Trail isnt that bad, its just the board makes it seem like its something much greater than it really is IMO.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 10:55:30 AM
a ridiculous amount of leftovers leaked today

On Top Of The World Remix Ft. Ludacris & B.o.B. (Includes B.o.B Verse which he KILLS)
http://www.zshare.net/audio/20042877d8a3eda7/

Bitch Who Ft. Mac Boney
http://www.zshare.net/audio/200437359322aff2/

Get Dat'
http://www.zshare.net/audio/20043920f8f6aead/

It's All G
http://www.zshare.net/audio/20044041eeb1c300/

Hold Up (Snippet) Ft. Nelly
http://www.zshare.net/audio/20044089984e7aee/
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on October 06, 2008, 11:16:18 AM
Just checked out the album today. Dope ass cd, TI is such a well rounded artist, never disapoints me.
it's the best album this year.

nope.
it is the best album this year.


not even close
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 11:33:02 AM
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Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
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Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 01:57:32 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch
you're my little bitch. don't you ever forget that.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 01:59:31 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
gold in 1 week? i think maybe.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 02:19:16 PM
gold in 1 week? i think maybe.
they say he sold 300,000+ in the first three days.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 02:20:13 PM
gold in 1 week? i think maybe.
they say he sold 300,000+ in the first three days.
something like 357K after 4 days
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 02:35:34 PM
gold in 1 week? i think maybe.
they say he sold 300,000+ in the first three days.
something like 357K after 4 days
that's great. i hope it's platinum in a week. that's beautiful for hip hop.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 02:38:55 PM
^it''ll take 3-4 weeks for him to go plat.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2008, 03:28:34 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.

ohh, but you do. TI had much more respect on this board before you made many hate on him lol.

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props to TI, good luck to him goin plat. ;)
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 03:39:02 PM
^no doubt; let's hope for a 2x plat!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2008, 03:41:22 PM
^no doubt; let's hope for a 2x plat!

lol chasin Wayne!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 06, 2008, 03:42:13 PM
^no doubt; let's hope for a 2x plat!

lol chasin Wayne!
ha! why not!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on October 06, 2008, 04:04:44 PM
after tis carbon copy of waynes lollipop gets him gold in one week... can we expect even more?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 04:44:04 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.

ohh, but you do. TI had much more respect on this board before you made many hate on him lol.

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props to TI, good luck to him goin plat. ;)
you can't blame me for the way you feel homie. look at everything all the haters said about tip i still went and copped paper trail, i'm still bumpin' all the unreleased shit i got no matter what anyone says so don't give me that sad song.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2008, 05:59:15 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.

ohh, but you do. TI had much more respect on this board before you made many hate on him lol.

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props to TI, good luck to him goin plat. ;)
you can't blame me for the way you feel homie. look at everything all the haters said about tip i still went and copped paper trail, i'm still bumpin' all the unreleased shit i got no matter what anyone says so don't give me that sad song.

lol, i definatly didnt buy this cd. its a cool album, and good luck to him with sales...thats all. :cheers:
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 06:08:09 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.

ohh, but you do. TI had much more respect on this board before you made many hate on him lol.

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props to TI, good luck to him goin plat. ;)
you can't blame me for the way you feel homie. look at everything all the haters said about tip i still went and copped paper trail, i'm still bumpin' all the unreleased shit i got no matter what anyone says so don't give me that sad song.

lol, i definatly didnt buy this cd. its a cool album, and good luck to him with sales...thats all. :cheers:
too bad.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 06, 2008, 06:09:10 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.

ohh, but you do. TI had much more respect on this board before you made many hate on him lol.

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props to TI, good luck to him goin plat. ;)
you can't blame me for the way you feel homie. look at everything all the haters said about tip i still went and copped paper trail, i'm still bumpin' all the unreleased shit i got no matter what anyone says so don't give me that sad song.

lol, i definatly didnt buy this cd. its a cool album, and good luck to him with sales...thats all. :cheers:
that's your loss.

or an extra 15 bucks to spend on a REAL cheap ho! :D
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 06, 2008, 06:10:55 PM
this shit is just comedy. ti's a little bitch and classic material is ti's little bitch

whatever. hes never going to change his ways. we'll just have to try to enjoy his music, even though Classic ruins almost everyones opinon about TI on this board lol.
i don't ruin nothin' for you. you do it yourself.

ohh, but you do. TI had much more respect on this board before you made many hate on him lol.

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props to TI, good luck to him goin plat. ;)
you can't blame me for the way you feel homie. look at everything all the haters said about tip i still went and copped paper trail, i'm still bumpin' all the unreleased shit i got no matter what anyone says so don't give me that sad song.

lol, i definatly didnt buy this cd. its a cool album, and good luck to him with sales...thats all. :cheers:
that's your loss.

or an extra 15 bucks to spend on a REAL cheap ho! :D
not a bad idea.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: OpenMindsENT on October 06, 2008, 06:46:22 PM
Decent album... nothing great yet not bad.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 07, 2008, 10:49:58 AM
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Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 07, 2008, 11:16:23 AM
interview on video shoot "live your life" addressin' the jim jones issue:
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/X9yQFSqqyLUspYVA
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 07, 2008, 12:14:42 PM
interview on video shoot "live your life" addressin' the jim jones issue:
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/X9yQFSqqyLUspYVA

i wanted diss tracks. :-\

although, i wouldnt want diss tracks about each others swag lol.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 07, 2008, 12:35:39 PM
^ya, TI just brushin em off
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 07, 2008, 12:38:16 PM
NOW IN: 77.12%
   
LW   TW   artist / album   label   power index
--   1   T.I.   GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC   482,644
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 07, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
^ya, TI just brushin em off
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 07, 2008, 01:59:52 PM
NOW IN: FINAL
   
LW   TW   artist / album   label   power index   % change
--   1   T.I.   GRAND HUSTLE/ATLANTIC   577,673   --

very impressive!
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on October 07, 2008, 02:03:05 PM
just wait for it...

either busta or 50 are up next. lollipop pt 3 comin up
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Lunatic on October 09, 2008, 10:49:04 AM
Atlanta rap star T.I. has taken his hit making streak to the next level with a historic showing on this week’s Billboard albums and singles charts.

he rapper’s latest release, Paper Trail, entered the Billboard 200 at No. 1 with 568,000 copies sold in its first week.

The ranking, which was echoed on Billboard’s Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums, Top Rap Albums and Top Digital Albums charts, marks T.I.’s third consecutive number one album behind his last two platinum-certified albums, 2006's King and 2007's T.I. VS. T.I.P.

The feat also resulted in T.I.’s label, Atlantic Records, receiving its biggest sales week since Nielsen SoundScan began tracking data in 1991.

Paper Trail’s showing was one of two achievements for T.I., who made an impact on Billboard’s Hot 100 singles chart with his latest single, “Live Your Life.”

The song, which features R&B/Pop vocalist Rihanna, made the biggest ever one-week leap on the chart as it rose from it’s No. 80 spot last week to this week’s position at No. 1.

The move top’s the previous record holder, also held by T.I. for the single “Whatever You Like,” which made the jump to No. 1 from No. 71 the week of Sept. 6.

“Whatever You Like” remained at No. 1 until it was knocked off by “Live Your Life.”

As a result, T.I. became the first artist to replace himself at No. 1 since the feat was accomplished by Usher in 2004.

In addition to topping the Billboard singles chart, “Live Your Life” had the biggest-ever first-week digital singles sales in history with downloads of nearly 335,000.

so he broke the record earlier this year from jumping from #71 to #1; a few weeks later, his new single breaks that record and goes from #80 to #1. Not to mention he has 3 albums in the top 200 sales this week.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 09, 2008, 10:52:02 AM
that's great news. paper trail is the album of the year.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on October 09, 2008, 04:25:16 PM
just wait for it...

either busta or 50 are up next. lollipop pt 3 comin up

part 3? what was two? "Whatever You Like"?
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: R1ZE on October 09, 2008, 06:53:52 PM
of course - jim jonson beat, sung verses, studio-enhanced hook... its all there
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 10, 2008, 01:15:35 AM
that's great news. paper trail is the album of the year.

if its based by sales then yeah...
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on October 10, 2008, 01:35:00 AM
that's great news. paper trail is the album of the year.

if its based by sales then yeah...
Nah if it was by sales then The Carter III would be album of the year
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: Black Excellence on October 10, 2008, 02:55:41 AM
interview on video shoot "live your life" addressin' the jim jones issue:
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/X9yQFSqqyLUspYVA

i wanted diss tracks. :-\

although, i wouldnt want diss tracks about each others swag lol.
me too.
Title: Re: T.I. - Paper Trail (Lunatic's Grand Major Paper Trail Thread)
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 10, 2008, 11:11:49 AM
that's great news. paper trail is the album of the year.

if its based by sales then yeah...
Nah if it was by sales then The Carter III would be album of the year

ohh shit almost forgot this... my bad..