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Title: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Elano on October 27, 2008, 11:13:32 PM
 Federal prosecutors charged two men with plotting a "killing spree" against African-Americans that would have been capped with an attempt to kill Sen. Barack Obama while they wore white tuxedos, federal officials said Monday.

The U.S. attorney's office in Jackson, Tennessee, said Daniel Cowart, 20, and Paul Schlesselman, 18, were self-described white supremacists who met online through a mutual friend.

Both men have been charged with illegal possession of a sawed-off shotgun, conspiracy to rob a federally licensed gun dealer and making threats against a presidential candidate.

The men planned to kill more than 100 African-Americans, including 14 who would be beheaded, according to the affidavit. But federal law enforcement sources said there was no evidence Cowart, of Bells, Tennessee, and Schlesselman, of West Helena, Arkansas, had any details of Obama's schedule.

"We take this very, very seriously but we see no evidence these guys have the ability or the wherewithal to pull off what they say they wanted to do," one law enforcement source said.

According to an affidavit from the federal agent who questioned them, Cowart and Schlesselman planned to charge at Obama with a car, firing from the windows as they went. They would be dressed in white tuxedos and top hats during the attempt, the affidavit states.

Cowart and Schlesselman were arrested outside Jackson, about 75 miles east of Memphis, Tennessee, after an aborted robbery attempt last week, according to court records.

Though they told investigators they would be willing to die in their mission, the men backed out of their October 21 attempt to rob the gun dealer after spotting two cars and a dog at the home, the affidavit states. The men also shot out the window of a church on their way back to Cowart's grandfather's home, where they were arrested the next day.

Cowart and Schlesselman made their initial appearances before a federal judge Monday and are scheduled for a bond hearing Thursday in Memphis.

Obama, an Illinois Democrat, is the first African-American nominee to lead a major-party ticket and was placed under Secret Service protection in May 2007, far earlier than other candidates.

Eric Zahren, a spokesman for the Secret Service, said it was unclear whether the suspects would have had the capability or means to carry out any sort of plot. But he said the matter was being taken seriously, and a joint investigation was under way.

There was no indication either had attended any Obama event or had drawn Secret Service attention in the past, Zahren said.

Campaign spokeswoman Linda Douglass said, "We never comment on security matters."

Threats against Obama have led to arrests in two previous cases. In one, federal prosecutors concluded that the three people arrested with drugs and weapons in a suburban Denver motel posed a "true threat" to the candidate.

In the second, a Florida man was charged with threatening bodily harm against the candidate in August. He has pleaded not guilty.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Low Key on October 27, 2008, 11:25:59 PM
There are a lot of crazy fuckers out there.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Mr. O on October 27, 2008, 11:41:42 PM
ain't nothing new..crazy..yeah..but we all heard these type of shit..
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Elano on October 27, 2008, 11:44:50 PM
if he'll be the new president he'll need some crazy protection
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Sikotic™ on October 28, 2008, 12:31:20 AM
Barack Hussein Obama should buy the Pope-mobile off eBay.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 28, 2008, 12:32:00 AM
sad part... all it takes is a crazy man with a hand gun to take out a great man... see RFK, Lincoln. Those were just crazy people with a gun, not no JFK conspiracy shit.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on October 28, 2008, 02:41:20 AM
that's the price you pay when you allow every dumbfuck to carry a gun.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: hellrazor86 on October 28, 2008, 05:49:15 AM
sad part... all it takes is a crazy man with a hand gun to take out a great man...
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: 7even on October 28, 2008, 05:59:20 AM
Isn't this all bullshit? Those are some random fuckers who can't do shit right. LOL@conspiracy. They weren't even able to get the guns. But because it's Obama, it's of course big news. Some retards sure as hell plotted to kill George Bush, just never got around to do it for all the obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Mr. O on October 28, 2008, 08:31:41 AM
Isn't this all bullshit? Those are some random fuckers who can't do shit right. LOL@conspiracy. They weren't even able to get the guns. But because it's Obama, it's of course big news. Some retards sure as hell plotted to kill George Bush, just never got around to do it for all the obvious reasons.
someone tried to assassinate Clinton.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: M Dogg™ on October 28, 2008, 08:50:13 AM
Isn't this all bullshit? Those are some random fuckers who can't do shit right. LOL@conspiracy. They weren't even able to get the guns. But because it's Obama, it's of course big news. Some retards sure as hell plotted to kill George Bush, just never got around to do it for all the obvious reasons.
someone tried to assassinate Clinton.

I remember that, he got a rifle and just started shotting at the White House. Bill Clinton was on the road somewhere... lol.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: 'EclipZe on October 28, 2008, 01:34:12 PM
that's the price you pay when you allow every dumbfuck to carry a gun.

true that, but people can always get their hands on weapons if they want to.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 28, 2008, 03:50:01 PM
Let me explain something to you people...as a white nationalist and a racially conscious voter, I actually WANT Barack Obama to win the Presidency. And yes, I hate the man, hate his policies, think he will in all likelihood damage America in the four years he's in office (and I mean it when I say THE four years...because I assure ya'll that he'll be gone by 2012).

Why, you ask? Because I have studied countries where non-white governments have come to power after having white governments in power, such as South Africa and Zimbabwe, and seen how they always go to shit once the non-white government is elected. You can also look at American cities that have fared very poorly under non-white mayors, like David Dinkins in New York. Non-white governments tend to be corrupt and steal wealth for themselves, and they tend to ruin countries far more than they help them. But too many stupid white liberals, like yourselves, believe that an Obama presidency will be good for America. I want ya'll to see for yourselves what happens when a non-white government is in power, because I think you'll be a lot less deluded by the time Obama leaves office.

And many white nationalists agree with me. General consensus amongst readers of American Renaissance, Stormfront, and other racially conscious publications/sites is that America can afford four years under Obama, if it teaches deluded white liberals how bad it is to have a black President. So ya'll are kidding yourselves if you think that us "racists" (the correct term is "racially conscious") are afraid of an Obama presidency, or are willing to kill to prevent his election. But delude yourselves into believe there's a racist conspiracy to kill Obama if it makes you feel better.

that's the price you pay when you allow every dumbfuck to carry a gun.

Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: GENERAL ZOD on October 28, 2008, 11:26:00 PM
if obama goes down there will be a obama comission and maybe 20 years later some of the truth will leak out - obama seems cool like he listens to jazz & smokes pot and fucks whitegirls on the low  8)
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 29, 2008, 12:28:28 AM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Elano on October 29, 2008, 01:46:14 AM
Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think?

MAYBE ;D
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: 7even on October 29, 2008, 03:34:21 AM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Elano on October 29, 2008, 04:24:22 AM
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Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on October 29, 2008, 05:05:37 AM

Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.


Really? It's just that  I don't see the connection between guns and democracy. Who is threatening your democracy? Do you have to defend it against foreign powers, like Mexico? The Queen of England? ??? Or do you possess them for the case your own government goes crazy, so you can defend yourself with a few rifles against the strongest military force in the world?

Since I'm so stupid, can you please expalin me how guns secure democacy so I can demand this for my fascist country too

Can sb explain me who's behind all those aliases? Is Old Man= Jared Taylor? I lost the overview.


Well this time it wasn't sth. serious, but I'm pretty sure there will be a serious assassination attempt on Obama.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: JAZ on October 29, 2008, 05:28:09 AM
ol @ cowart being his last name.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: 7even on October 29, 2008, 09:31:02 AM
Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.
Can sb explain me who's behind all those aliases? Is Old Man= Jared Taylor? I lost the overview.

Yes, I assume they both belong to J Bananas... as well as this Job-mockery alias. As well as his normal account. Probably got even more under his belt, the nigga is busy.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 29, 2008, 10:00:06 AM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".


the incident itself isnt whats a big deal, the mindset behind it is. Obamas danger isnt in these white trash rednecks from Arkansas....its in the KKK members who wear suits and ties. But these idiots could have been a potential danger to any other innocent Black people who might have been caught up in their little plan. So yes, its gonna be a big deal...its gonna make front page. Deal with it. I know how youre so against others (actually, just Black people) getting any attention over yourself...that you get all butt hurt everytime there is a story. But too bad, just deal with it. As far as Bush goes...are you kidding me? Where do you live man? Cus after 9/11....people were being questioned by Secret Service for just making negative Bush comments, let alone plots to kill him. But on the real, where do you live?
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 29, 2008, 10:07:08 AM
Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.

lol The right to bear arms is great and all. But it made more sense when it was originally thought of.....because the Government had fuckin muskets also. The average person could defend themself against the government in the event that the government became corrupt (which it is). There seems to be a little big larger gap between the quality of weaponry that the government has now....and the people have.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 29, 2008, 10:15:57 AM
Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.

lol The right to bear arms is great and all. But it made more sense when it was originally thought of.....because the Government had fuckin muskets also. The average person could defend themself against the government in the event that the government became corrupt (which it is). There seems to be a little big larger gap between the quality of weaponry that the government has now....and the people have.

There was a huge gap between the quality of weapons that the Viet Cong and the American military had, too. There is a huge gap now between the weapons that Hezbollah has and the IDF has. Does that mean jack shit?

Thanks for proving again why we can't take you seriously.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 29, 2008, 10:17:07 AM

Really? It's just that  I don't see the connection between guns and democracy. Who is threatening your democracy?

Liberals and their PC-fascist agenda.

You can't see the connection because you're a retarded liberal yourself, of course.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: 7even on October 29, 2008, 10:21:10 AM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".


the incident itself isnt whats a big deal, the mindset behind it is. Obamas danger isnt in these white trash rednecks from Arkansas....its in the KKK members who wear suits and ties. But these idiots could have been a potential danger to any other innocent Black people who might have been caught up in their little plan. So yes, its gonna be a big deal...its gonna make front page. Deal with it. I know how youre so against others (actually, just Black people) getting any attention over yourself...that you get all butt hurt everytime there is a story. But too bad, just deal with it. As far as Bush goes...are you kidding me? Where do you live man? Cus after 9/11....people were being questioned by Secret Service for just making negative Bush comments, let alone plots to kill him. But on the real, where do you live?

The mindset behind it? You mean certain groups of people who don't want a black president? Lol. We really needed that to become aware of that! Anyways, Obama is inclined to get attention over something like this, it's not a surprise. I'm just asking the public to be a bit more rational, that's all. Of course Bush got protection, as will Obama if he becomes president. I'm just saying that if 2 dread-locked Haitian low-lives who smoke ganja all day "plotted" to kill Bush and 102 random whites, noone would have taken it seriously, yet alone called it a conspiracy. And rightfully so. I'm from Europe, Germany, Munich.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 29, 2008, 10:23:16 AM
Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.

lol The right to bear arms is great and all. But it made more sense when it was originally thought of.....because the Government had fuckin muskets also. The average person could defend themself against the government in the event that the government became corrupt (which it is). There seems to be a little big larger gap between the quality of weaponry that the government has now....and the people have.

There was a huge gap between the quality of weapons that the Viet Cong and the American military had, too. There is a huge gap now between the weapons that Hezbollah has and the IDF has. Does that mean jack shit?

Thanks for proving again why we can't take you seriously.

we're talking about the average US Citizens right to bear arms dumbass. Im for the right to bear arms...but only stupid rednecks think that their right to bear arms is somehow allowing them to protect democracy lol.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 29, 2008, 10:32:36 AM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".


the incident itself isnt whats a big deal, the mindset behind it is. Obamas danger isnt in these white trash rednecks from Arkansas....its in the KKK members who wear suits and ties. But these idiots could have been a potential danger to any other innocent Black people who might have been caught up in their little plan. So yes, its gonna be a big deal...its gonna make front page. Deal with it. I know how youre so against others (actually, just Black people) getting any attention over yourself...that you get all butt hurt everytime there is a story. But too bad, just deal with it. As far as Bush goes...are you kidding me? Where do you live man? Cus after 9/11....people were being questioned by Secret Service for just making negative Bush comments, let alone plots to kill him. But on the real, where do you live?

The mindset behind it? You mean certain groups of people who don't want a black president? Lol. We really needed that to become aware of that! Anyways, Obama is inclined to get attention over something like this, it's not a surprise. I'm just asking the public to be a bit more rational, that's all. Of course Bush got protection, as will Obama if he becomes president. I'm just saying that if 2 dread-locked Haitian low-lives who smoke ganja all day "plotted" to kill Bush and 102 random whites, noone would have taken it seriously, yet alone called it a conspiracy. And rightfully so. I'm from Europe, Germany, Munich.

You dont get it. The mindset isnt about certain people not wanting a Black President. Its the mindset of being willing to kill a potential President because he is Black. How do you not see this? I know youre in Germany, so your point of view on this is almost irrelevent. But cmon. There are always gonna be lunatics who would like to kill the President. But typically, in the US, they arent racially motivated. Oh, and if those two Haitians wanted to run on the court during a Dallas playoff choke and murder Dirk simply because he's a fuckin German....youd be on here throwin out all kinds of racial slurs against them.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on October 29, 2008, 01:47:03 PM
Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.

lol The right to bear arms is great and all. But it made more sense when it was originally thought of.....because the Government had fuckin muskets also. The average person could defend themself against the government in the event that the government became corrupt (which it is). There seems to be a little big larger gap between the quality of weaponry that the government has now....and the people have.

There was a huge gap between the quality of weapons that the Viet Cong and the American military had, too. There is a huge gap now between the weapons that Hezbollah has and the IDF has. Does that mean jack shit?

Thanks for proving again why we can't take you seriously.


So you would lead a guerilla war against your own country. It'd be hilarious too see some stupid rednecks who are to drunk to hold a gun vs a well trained and equipped army.
You shitheads are so fascinated with guns and war that you can't see the easiest option, which is to defeat your government   without violence.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on October 29, 2008, 01:50:26 PM
Fuck off, stupid Eurotrash loser. The fact that Americans can own guns is what allows us to ensure our government stays democratic, instead of becoming some politically correct fascist state like whatever country you're from.
Can sb explain me who's behind all those aliases? Is Old Man= Jared Taylor? I lost the overview.

Yes, I assume they both belong to J Bananas... as well as this Job-mockery alias. As well as his normal account. Probably got even more under his belt, the nigga is busy.


They also remind me of Foday-Sankoh.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: 7even on October 29, 2008, 03:25:34 PM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".


the incident itself isnt whats a big deal, the mindset behind it is. Obamas danger isnt in these white trash rednecks from Arkansas....its in the KKK members who wear suits and ties. But these idiots could have been a potential danger to any other innocent Black people who might have been caught up in their little plan. So yes, its gonna be a big deal...its gonna make front page. Deal with it. I know how youre so against others (actually, just Black people) getting any attention over yourself...that you get all butt hurt everytime there is a story. But too bad, just deal with it. As far as Bush goes...are you kidding me? Where do you live man? Cus after 9/11....people were being questioned by Secret Service for just making negative Bush comments, let alone plots to kill him. But on the real, where do you live?

The mindset behind it? You mean certain groups of people who don't want a black president? Lol. We really needed that to become aware of that! Anyways, Obama is inclined to get attention over something like this, it's not a surprise. I'm just asking the public to be a bit more rational, that's all. Of course Bush got protection, as will Obama if he becomes president. I'm just saying that if 2 dread-locked Haitian low-lives who smoke ganja all day "plotted" to kill Bush and 102 random whites, noone would have taken it seriously, yet alone called it a conspiracy. And rightfully so. I'm from Europe, Germany, Munich.

You dont get it. The mindset isnt about certain people not wanting a Black President. Its the mindset of being willing to kill a potential President because he is Black. How do you not see this? I know youre in Germany, so your point of view on this is almost irrelevent. But cmon. There are always gonna be lunatics who would like to kill the President. But typically, in the US, they arent racially motivated. Oh, and if those two Haitians wanted to run on the court during a Dallas playoff choke and murder Dirk simply because he's a fuckin German....youd be on here throwin out all kinds of racial slurs against them.

Not wanting a black president and wanting to kill someone to prevent this from happening is not that much of a difference from an attitude point of view. Some people are killers, some aren't. Either way, it's not a surprise that those things are happening. Like you said, there are always gonna be niggas who would like to kill the president. Now why are they typically not racially motivated? Because in the past any nigga who was in serious contention to become president was white. It's like wanting to kill a tennis player because he is white. Doesn't make sense, does it? Stop being butt-hurt over this. Noone is defending those 2 guys. All I'm saying is that they were neither special, nor were they a serious threat. Lol@you getting personal and throwing ad hominem analogies at me. Fuck you.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 29, 2008, 03:50:24 PM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".


the incident itself isnt whats a big deal, the mindset behind it is. Obamas danger isnt in these white trash rednecks from Arkansas....its in the KKK members who wear suits and ties. But these idiots could have been a potential danger to any other innocent Black people who might have been caught up in their little plan. So yes, its gonna be a big deal...its gonna make front page. Deal with it. I know how youre so against others (actually, just Black people) getting any attention over yourself...that you get all butt hurt everytime there is a story. But too bad, just deal with it. As far as Bush goes...are you kidding me? Where do you live man? Cus after 9/11....people were being questioned by Secret Service for just making negative Bush comments, let alone plots to kill him. But on the real, where do you live?

The mindset behind it? You mean certain groups of people who don't want a black president? Lol. We really needed that to become aware of that! Anyways, Obama is inclined to get attention over something like this, it's not a surprise. I'm just asking the public to be a bit more rational, that's all. Of course Bush got protection, as will Obama if he becomes president. I'm just saying that if 2 dread-locked Haitian low-lives who smoke ganja all day "plotted" to kill Bush and 102 random whites, noone would have taken it seriously, yet alone called it a conspiracy. And rightfully so. I'm from Europe, Germany, Munich.

You dont get it. The mindset isnt about certain people not wanting a Black President. Its the mindset of being willing to kill a potential President because he is Black. How do you not see this? I know youre in Germany, so your point of view on this is almost irrelevent. But cmon. There are always gonna be lunatics who would like to kill the President. But typically, in the US, they arent racially motivated. Oh, and if those two Haitians wanted to run on the court during a Dallas playoff choke and murder Dirk simply because he's a fuckin German....youd be on here throwin out all kinds of racial slurs against them.

Not wanting a black president and wanting to kill someone to prevent this from happening is not that much of a difference from an attitude point of view. Some people are killers, some aren't. Either way, it's not a surprise that those things are happening. Like you said, there are always gonna be niggas who would like to kill the president. Now why are they typically not racially motivated? Because in the past any nigga who was in serious contention to become president was white. It's like wanting to kill a tennis player because he is white. Doesn't make sense, does it? Stop being butt-hurt over this. Noone is defending those 2 guys. All I'm saying is that they were neither special, nor were they a serious threat. Lol@you getting personal and throwing ad hominem analogies at me. Fuck you.

Its like youre arguing just to argue man. The story isnt just the little "plot" by these idiots. The story is the  racially motivated "plot" by these idiots. Race is obviously going to play a larger role in this election then any other election in our history. A couple of dumbass hillbillies who decide they want to go on a rampage and attempt to kill the next potential President because he's is Black....IS a story.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Low Key on October 29, 2008, 03:59:53 PM
But because it's Obama, it's of course big news.

Umm...yeah. Maybe because he's running for President. Potentially the first Black man to become President, and some racist fucks have a plot (not a good one obviously, but still a plot) to kill him. Sounds like something that should be a big deal, you think? Those guys who put up the Palin and McCain dolls made the news also....and had to deal with the secret service. There poor taste wasnt quite as bad as these idiots now was it?

Um, yes? Still, my point is that those fucks are not more relevant than any other random guy who kinda wants to kill some famous person. There must have been hundreds of guys who "plotted" to kill Bush. I'm sure there are even people who "would like" to kill Paul Pierce. I wouldn't call that a huge neo-nazi conspiracy against poor black Obama. That's the point I am making. All the tabloids over here were loaded with that news in big capital letters on the front page, like it was something very serious and thought-through that only the brilliant CIA could prevent or something. When in reality, it was 2 worthless fucks who never did anything in life correctly and had completely unrealistic "plots".


the incident itself isnt whats a big deal, the mindset behind it is. Obamas danger isnt in these white trash rednecks from Arkansas....its in the KKK members who wear suits and ties. But these idiots could have been a potential danger to any other innocent Black people who might have been caught up in their little plan. So yes, its gonna be a big deal...its gonna make front page. Deal with it. I know how youre so against others (actually, just Black people) getting any attention over yourself...that you get all butt hurt everytime there is a story. But too bad, just deal with it. As far as Bush goes...are you kidding me? Where do you live man? Cus after 9/11....people were being questioned by Secret Service for just making negative Bush comments, let alone plots to kill him. But on the real, where do you live?

The mindset behind it? You mean certain groups of people who don't want a black president? Lol. We really needed that to become aware of that! Anyways, Obama is inclined to get attention over something like this, it's not a surprise. I'm just asking the public to be a bit more rational, that's all. Of course Bush got protection, as will Obama if he becomes president. I'm just saying that if 2 dread-locked Haitian low-lives who smoke ganja all day "plotted" to kill Bush and 102 random whites, noone would have taken it seriously, yet alone called it a conspiracy. And rightfully so. I'm from Europe, Germany, Munich.

You dont get it. The mindset isnt about certain people not wanting a Black President. Its the mindset of being willing to kill a potential President because he is Black. How do you not see this? I know youre in Germany, so your point of view on this is almost irrelevent. But cmon. There are always gonna be lunatics who would like to kill the President. But typically, in the US, they arent racially motivated. Oh, and if those two Haitians wanted to run on the court during a Dallas playoff choke and murder Dirk simply because he's a fuckin German....youd be on here throwin out all kinds of racial slurs against them.

Not wanting a black president and wanting to kill someone to prevent this from happening is not that much of a difference from an attitude point of view. Some people are killers, some aren't. Either way, it's not a surprise that those things are happening. Like you said, there are always gonna be niggas who would like to kill the president. Now why are they typically not racially motivated? Because in the past any nigga who was in serious contention to become president was white. It's like wanting to kill a tennis player because he is white. Doesn't make sense, does it? Stop being butt-hurt over this. Noone is defending those 2 guys. All I'm saying is that they were neither special, nor were they a serious threat. Lol@you getting personal and throwing ad hominem analogies at me. Fuck you.

Its like youre arguing just to argue man. The story isnt just the little "plot" by these idiots. The story is the  racially motivated "plot" by these idiots. Race is obviously going to play a larger role in this election then any other election in our history. A couple of dumbass hillbillies who decide they want to go on a rampage and attempt to kill the next potential President because he's is Black....IS a story.

White people aren't the only ones pulling hate crimes. ::)

Take a good look at this picture:(http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/0/2005/04/26/175x131/images_sizedimage_116141428.jpg)

He was pulled out of his car and beaten because he was white, no other reason. That didn't make the local news and HE WORKS FOR A TELEVISION NETWORK. Hate crimes are committed by every race, but it's only the white on black hate crimes that get media attention. It isn't anything new.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 29, 2008, 05:37:03 PM
we're talking about the average US Citizens right to bear arms dumbass. Im for the right to bear arms...but only stupid rednecks think that their right to bear arms is somehow allowing them to protect democracy lol.

It means EVERYTHING. Non-violent resistance is a pipe dream unless you're Gandhi. Empowering the people through possession of arms is the best check against a tyrannical government. Our founding fathers (wiser men than your little ass could ever hope to be) knew it, and that's why it's in the Constitution.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 29, 2008, 05:39:38 PM
So you would lead a guerilla war against your own country. It'd be hilarious too see some stupid rednecks who are to drunk to hold a gun vs a well trained and equipped army.
You shitheads are so fascinated with guns and war that you can't see the easiest option, which is to defeat your government   without violence.

This country is full of veterans and people who are well-trained with firearms. You don't know what you're talking about, so shut the fuck up, Eurotrash.

You can't defeat the government with non-violence if the government is committed to having its way by force. Keep telling yourself that. But then again, Europeans lost their spine a long time ago. That's why they now openly welcome Muslims and allow them to impose Green Fascism (read: Shari'ah Law) upon the population. It's quite obvious that the dumb leftists like yourself are the reason Europe has lots its glory and is seeing its civilization taken over and destroyed by Middle Easterners.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 29, 2008, 05:50:12 PM

White people aren't the only ones pulling hate crimes. ::)

Take a good look at this picture:(http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/0/2005/04/26/175x131/images_sizedimage_116141428.jpg)

He was pulled out of his car and beaten because he was white, no other reason. That didn't make the local news and HE WORKS FOR A TELEVISION NETWORK. Hate crimes are committed by every race, but it's only the white on black hate crimes that get media attention. It isn't anything new.

Blacks commit far more "hate crimes" than whites do nowadays. A white woman is far more likely to be raped by a black man than a black woman is likely to be raped by a white man. Black-on-white killings rarely make the news. Just look up the case of Charon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

The reason, of course, is that the Marxist media doesn't want us to know the true nature of the negro - a savage animal. But many whites, deep down inside, know the truth.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Low Key on October 29, 2008, 08:30:30 PM

White people aren't the only ones pulling hate crimes. ::)

Take a good look at this picture:(http://llnw.image.cbslocal.com/0/2005/04/26/175x131/images_sizedimage_116141428.jpg)

He was pulled out of his car and beaten because he was white, no other reason. That didn't make the local news and HE WORKS FOR A TELEVISION NETWORK. Hate crimes are committed by every race, but it's only the white on black hate crimes that get media attention. It isn't anything new.

Blacks commit far more "hate crimes" than whites do nowadays. A white woman is far more likely to be raped by a black man than a black woman is likely to be raped by a white man. Black-on-white killings rarely make the news. Just look up the case of Charon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

The reason, of course, is that the Marxist media doesn't want us to know the true nature of the negro - a savage animal. But many whites, deep down inside, know the truth.

This is a west coast rap forum and you say shit like blacks are savages. Seriously? Don't go and blame problems on others when you are the one starting it in the first place. Your instigating on here isn't any better. Saying the things you say creates hate. It may not be violent, but it sure can (and usually does) lead to it.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 29, 2008, 09:24:23 PM

This is a west coast rap forum and you say shit like blacks are savages. Seriously? Don't go and blame problems on others when you are the one starting it in the first place. Your instigating on here isn't any better. Saying the things you say creates hate. It may not be violent, but it sure can (and usually does) lead to it.

But as I have pointed out, the racist violence is mostly coming from the blacks nowadays. The white nationalist movement - such as it is - is mostly non-violent. Yet of course, the liberal establishment tries as hard as they can to publicize every white-on-black crime possible and make it into a "hate crime" in order to convince us all of the imminent danger of the white supremacists.

There is nothing hateful about pointing out the hate of a certain group of people.
Title: Re: Men charged with plotting to kill Obama
Post by: Low Key on October 29, 2008, 10:37:19 PM

This is a west coast rap forum and you say shit like blacks are savages. Seriously? Don't go and blame problems on others when you are the one starting it in the first place. Your instigating on here isn't any better. Saying the things you say creates hate. It may not be violent, but it sure can (and usually does) lead to it.

But as I have pointed out, the racist violence is mostly coming from the blacks nowadays. The white nationalist movement - such as it is - is mostly non-violent. Yet of course, the liberal establishment tries as hard as they can to publicize every white-on-black crime possible and make it into a "hate crime" in order to convince us all of the imminent danger of the white supremacists.

There is nothing hateful about pointing out the hate of a certain group of people.

You go beyond observation by adding racist statements. I'd say that's fairly hateful.