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Title: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Chief on October 30, 2008, 04:31:09 AM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Mr. O on October 30, 2008, 06:53:22 AM
Because people believe in lies.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: penenstamp on October 30, 2008, 06:57:28 AM
Veterans have a lot of status in the US. I think the main reason McCain was chosen to run for president is because he's a war hero.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: pootypooty on October 30, 2008, 08:30:26 AM
Veterans have a lot of status in the US. I think the main reason McCain was chosen to run for president is because he's a war hero.

That argument don't hold weight either because John Kerry is a war hero too when he ran against Bush 4 years ago, while Bush dodged serving in the National Guards.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 30, 2008, 08:55:45 AM
Why would anyone have voted for Bush? Especially the second time?

There are enough right wing Christian idiots in this country who let their mental illness (religion) make their choices for them. Those same idiots will vote for Mccain. There are also those people who blindly vote Republican or Democrat. Voting for Mccain doesnt make a whole lot of sense.....but what makes less sense is when middle or lower middle class people vote Republican. Wtf? Now these people, are some true idiots.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on October 30, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
Veterans have a lot of status in the US. I think the main reason McCain was chosen to run for president is because he's a war hero.

That argument don't hold weight either because John Kerry is a war hero too when he ran against Bush 4 years ago, while Bush dodged serving in the National Guards.

Kerry was sent home early from Vietnam because he shot himself. That normally doesn't constitute the label of hero, and most vets who served with Kerry didn't like him. But yeah, Bush dodged the Guard and Vietnam altogether.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on October 30, 2008, 01:02:28 PM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Javier on October 30, 2008, 03:32:21 PM
Veterans have a lot of status in the US. I think the main reason McCain was chosen to run for president is because he's a war hero.

That argument don't hold weight either because John Kerry is a war hero too when he ran against Bush 4 years ago, while Bush dodged serving in the National Guards.

Kerry was sent home early from Vietnam because he shot himself. That normally doesn't constitute the label of hero, and most vets who served with Kerry didn't like him. But yeah, Bush dodged the Guard and Vietnam altogether.

The SBVT were a bunch of assholes trying to just discredit Kerry for his service.  Swiftboating even became a term thanks to these assholes.  Here's the true story
_________________________________________________
The Third Purple Heart

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth further says Kerry didn't deserve his third purple heart, which was received for shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on right forearm. The Swift Boat group's affidavits state that the wound in Kerry's backside happened earlier that day in an accident. "Kerry inadvertently wounded himself in the fanny," Thurlow said in his affidavit, "by throwing a grenade too close (to destroy a rice supply) and suffered minor shrapnel wounds."

The grenade incident is actually supported by Kerry's own account, but the shrapnel wound was only part of the basis for Kerry's third purple heart according to official documents. The evidence here is contradictory.

Kerry's account is in  the book Tour of Duty by Douglas Brinkley, who based it largely on Kerry's own Vietnam diaries and 12 hours of interviews with Kerry. "I got a piece of small grenade in my ass from one of the rice-bin explosions and then we started to move back to the boats," Kerry is quoted as saying on page 313. In that account, Kerry says his arm was hurt later, after the mine  blast that disabled PCF-3, when a second explosion rocked his own boat. "The concussion threw me violently against the bulkhead on the door and I smashed my arm," Kerry says on page 314.

And according to a Navy casualty report released by the Kerry campaign, the third purple heart was received for "shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on his right forearm when a mine detonated close aboard PCF-94," Kerry's boat. As a matter of strict grammar, the report doesn't state that both injuries were received as a result of the mine explosion, only the arm injury.

The official citation for Kerry's Bronze Star refers only to his arm injury, not to the shrapnel wound to his rear. It says he performed the rescue "from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain." The description of Kerry's arm "bleeding" isn't consistent with the description of a "contusion," or bruise.

Rassmann's Aug. 10 Wall Street Journal article states that Kerry's arm was "wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat," which would make that wound clearly enemy-inflicted.

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the Web site of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.

Another major discrepancy raises a question of how close Kerry's accusers actually were to the rescue of Rassmann. Tour of Duty describes Rassmann's rescue (and the sniper fire) as happening "several hundred yards back" from where the crippled PCF-3 was lying, not "a few yards away," the distance from which the anti-Kerry veterans claim to have witnessed the incident.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Knuckles on October 30, 2008, 03:51:47 PM
There are a bunch of reason to vote McCain.  He's more experienced, he's more conservative economically, he has served his country and is a hero, etc.  I just love how some people just think their choice is the only reasonable choice and anyone who doesn't agree is stupid, everyone's an expert.  There is nothing wrong whatsoever with voting for McCain because it's not like Obama is the second coming of Christ. 

With that said, if I could vote I'd go with Obama, that's just me.   
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Mr. O on October 30, 2008, 05:52:50 PM
I don't get why McCain won't drop STUPID ASS joe the plumber when he don't give a fuck about McCAin.  Geez...joe been busy getting his publisher and his contract to do music..LMAO.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 30, 2008, 06:54:06 PM
Who gives a fuck what Europeans and Australians think anyway? They're the ones who are letting militant Islamists invade their countries and giving away their culture piece-by-piece because they've lost their sense of how to stand up for their culture and civilization.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 30, 2008, 06:59:47 PM
Who gives a fuck what Europeans and Australians think anyway? They're the ones who are letting militant Islamists invade their countries and giving away their culture piece-by-piece because they've lost their sense of how to stand up for their culture and civilization.

And what is your culture? Your ancestors were from Europe. They for damn sure werent from here.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Lanothegreat on October 30, 2008, 07:00:39 PM
I DONT KNOW IF IM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE THIS SHIT THROUGH...BUT...AMERICA HAS BEEN BIULT WITH A CLOSED CIRCUIT GOVERNMENT FOR MOST OF ITS EXISTENCE.SO...WHEN THEY'RE ARE ANY VARIABLES (COMPETION  IE....AFRICAN AMERICANS OR LATINOS)
RACE IS NOW A PRIME FACTOR IN EVERY TOPIC DEALING WITH THE BRANCH OR LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT DIRECTY EFFECTED...WHEN ITS TWO "WHITE" PPL....U NEVER HEAR ANY TALK OF RACE WHAT SO EVER..BECAUSE U HAVE TO VOTE FOR ONE OF THE TWO CANDIDATES WHICH ARE ACTUALLY PLAYING FOR THE SAME TEAM SO IT REALLY DOESNT MATTER IN THE END

TO SHOW YOU HOW ADVANCED PREJUDICE IS NOW....PPL WOULD STILL RATHER VOTE FOR MCCAIN..WHO IN FACT..HAS GIVEN THE WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN AMERICA TAX BREAKS SO THEY CAN "REDISTRIBUTE" WEALTH AMONGST THEMSELVES...IN THE FORM OF BUSINESSES,HOMES,CARS ETC....
BUT WHEN BARACK SAID...LETS TAX THE PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD THE TAX....PEOPLE SAID..HEY...BARACK WANT TO SPREAD THE WEALTH..OH NO...THEY CALL HIM A MARXIST...WHEN IN FACT..THIS COUNTRY IS ONE OF THE MOST MARXIST COUNTRIES  KNOWN TO MAN..OUR GOVERNMENT CAN THROW OUT ANY PHILOSOPHY WHICH SOUNDS BAD AND SMEAR IT ON PEOPLE...LOOK UP MARXISM AND IT SOUNDS LIKE AMERICA,THE BUSINESSES IN AMERICA...AND HOW THEY TREAT MINORITIES...LOL...
DO YOUR RESEARCH....
SOME..NOT ALL..WHITE PEOPLE RATHER VOTE FOR MORE BUSH BULLSHIT RATHER THAN CHANGE ONLY CAUSE THE PERSON TO CHANGE IT IS "BLACK"..


LOL...HUMANS DESTRUCTION IS INEVITABLE
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 30, 2008, 07:01:12 PM

And what is your culture? Your ancestors were from Europe. They for damn sure werent from here.

American culture, moron. Uniquely American.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on October 30, 2008, 07:33:37 PM
Who gives a fuck what Europeans and Australians think anyway? They're the ones who are letting militant Islamists invade their countries and giving away their culture piece-by-piece because they've lost their sense of how to stand up for their culture and civilization.

I'm pretty sure in 2006, Australia told the muslims who were immigrating to their nation to adapt or turn right back around and leave.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," Treasurer Peter Costello said on national television.

Better check your sources Jared.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on October 30, 2008, 07:40:10 PM
Veterans have a lot of status in the US. I think the main reason McCain was chosen to run for president is because he's a war hero.

That argument don't hold weight either because John Kerry is a war hero too when he ran against Bush 4 years ago, while Bush dodged serving in the National Guards.

Kerry was sent home early from Vietnam because he shot himself. That normally doesn't constitute the label of hero, and most vets who served with Kerry didn't like him. But yeah, Bush dodged the Guard and Vietnam altogether.

The SBVT were a bunch of assholes trying to just discredit Kerry for his service.  Swiftboating even became a term thanks to these assholes.  Here's the true story
_________________________________________________
The Third Purple Heart

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth further says Kerry didn't deserve his third purple heart, which was received for shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on right forearm. The Swift Boat group's affidavits state that the wound in Kerry's backside happened earlier that day in an accident. "Kerry inadvertently wounded himself in the fanny," Thurlow said in his affidavit, "by throwing a grenade too close (to destroy a rice supply) and suffered minor shrapnel wounds."

The grenade incident is actually supported by Kerry's own account, but the shrapnel wound was only part of the basis for Kerry's third purple heart according to official documents. The evidence here is contradictory.

Kerry's account is in  the book Tour of Duty by Douglas Brinkley, who based it largely on Kerry's own Vietnam diaries and 12 hours of interviews with Kerry. "I got a piece of small grenade in my ass from one of the rice-bin explosions and then we started to move back to the boats," Kerry is quoted as saying on page 313. In that account, Kerry says his arm was hurt later, after the mine  blast that disabled PCF-3, when a second explosion rocked his own boat. "The concussion threw me violently against the bulkhead on the door and I smashed my arm," Kerry says on page 314.

And according to a Navy casualty report released by the Kerry campaign, the third purple heart was received for "shrapnel wounds in left buttocks and contusions on his right forearm when a mine detonated close aboard PCF-94," Kerry's boat. As a matter of strict grammar, the report doesn't state that both injuries were received as a result of the mine explosion, only the arm injury.

The official citation for Kerry's Bronze Star refers only to his arm injury, not to the shrapnel wound to his rear. It says he performed the rescue "from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain." The description of Kerry's arm "bleeding" isn't consistent with the description of a "contusion," or bruise.

Rassmann's Aug. 10 Wall Street Journal article states that Kerry's arm was "wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat," which would make that wound clearly enemy-inflicted.

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the Web site of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.

Another major discrepancy raises a question of how close Kerry's accusers actually were to the rescue of Rassmann. Tour of Duty describes Rassmann's rescue (and the sniper fire) as happening "several hundred yards back" from where the crippled PCF-3 was lying, not "a few yards away," the distance from which the anti-Kerry veterans claim to have witnessed the incident.

I find this quite perplexing:

In any case, even a "friendly fire" injury can qualify for a purple heart "as long as the 'friendly' projectile or agent was released with the full intent of inflicting damage or destroying enemy troops or equipment," according to the Web site of the Military Order of the Purple Heart. All agree that rice was being destroyed that day on the assumption that it otherwise might feed Viet Cong fighters.

It's the military and obviously they have their own guidelines for earning honors, but that seems to debunk the statement earlier in the article that the grenade blast was enemy inflicted.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on October 30, 2008, 07:44:31 PM
SOME..NOT ALL..WHITE PEOPLE RATHER VOTE FOR MORE BUSH BULLSHIT RATHER THAN CHANGE ONLY CAUSE THE PERSON TO CHANGE IT IS "BLACK"..

What about the black people who are voting for Obama solely because he's black? An executive position like president of the United States should be about policy, not race. All I ask for is the best man for the job, but it's more like choosing between the lesser of two evils, regardless of who is running, their party, or their race.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on October 30, 2008, 07:52:16 PM
SOME..NOT ALL..WHITE PEOPLE RATHER VOTE FOR MORE BUSH BULLSHIT RATHER THAN CHANGE ONLY CAUSE THE PERSON TO CHANGE IT IS "BLACK"..

What about the black people who are voting for Obama solely because he's black? An executive position like president of the United States should be about policy, not race. All I ask for is the best man for the job, but it's more like choosing between the lesser of two evils, regardless of who is running, their party, or their race.

the amount of Black people voting FOR Obama simply for being Black will nowhere near counteract the amount of White/ Hispanic people who will vote against him because he IS.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 30, 2008, 07:59:35 PM
I'm pretty sure in 2006, Australia told the muslims who were immigrating to their nation to adapt or turn right back around and leave.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," Treasurer Peter Costello said on national television.

Better check your sources Jared.

Sadly, this brave man's views are not in the majority. Most Australians have bought into the leftist agenda.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Turf Hitta on October 30, 2008, 08:13:52 PM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

don't underestimate the racism of white people.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on October 30, 2008, 08:29:00 PM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

don't underestimate the racism of white people.
WORD!
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Sikoticô on October 30, 2008, 08:45:02 PM
1. racist
2. ignorant
3. a combo of both
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Infinite Trapped in 1996 on October 30, 2008, 09:58:04 PM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

Well, if I did vote for McCain (which I wouldn't) it would probably be fear of Obama being a socialist; because I believe in the free market rather than government enforcing where our money goes. 

However, the problem with that is that McCain is also a socialist (and on top of that a fascist.  He voted for the bail out which is basically an extended nationalization of the banking industry, and feels no reluctance in sticking governments nose into all aspects of human endeavor, from major league baseball (he's the one that threatened them with steroid legislation which is definitely not a function of the government as outlined in the Constitution), to meddling in the affairs of Nations abroad, and all the while he demands that man's highest duty is to the state much in the same way as Stalin or Hitler.

The best candidate is probably Chuck Baldwin from a Libertarian perspective. 

 
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Chief on October 31, 2008, 01:11:25 AM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

he has far more knowledge in economics than mc cain

obama atleast stated that the US may face financial crisis

what did mc cain say? the US has a strong foundation and will be fine less than a week later shit gets fucked up


and whoever said who cares what australians think, well the US is the greatest economy in the world, whoever is in charge of it effects the rest of the world. so fuck off.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on October 31, 2008, 02:34:59 AM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: řŕiņÁŽ on October 31, 2008, 09:28:57 AM
could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???


very good question.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on October 31, 2008, 12:45:11 PM
i am bamboozled

his running mate is basically against the party now, she is completely inexperienced, and they both dont know shit about the economy.

why would anyone vote for mc cain?

I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

he has far more knowledge in economics than mc cain

obama atleast stated that the US may face financial crisis

what did mc cain say? the US has a strong foundation and will be fine less than a week later shit gets fucked up

I wouldn't say he knows a great deal more about the economy than McCain. He may have a better view on economics, but certainly not enough to reverse what has happened on his own. That is why presidents have advisors.

And not that I find lying acceptable, but there have been many instances where someone of power says something, like McCain's "Everything is fine" comment, in an attempt to quell a negative effect. It made him look like an idiot because he was wrong, but if he were right, Obama would be the one looking like an idiot.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on October 31, 2008, 01:01:30 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on October 31, 2008, 01:04:34 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on October 31, 2008, 01:27:06 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
how can you speak on race relations in the STATES when your ass dont even live in the fuckin states. You motherfuckers live  where the percent of Blacks is like .0012 . please shut the fuck up. like eye dont overstand how ya motherfuckers have the nerve to open your fuckin mouths. no wonder why you running around saying nigga this and nigga that because they aint no Blacks out there to bitch slap your wigger ass. fuckin bullshit
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on October 31, 2008, 02:07:39 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
how can you speak on race relations in the STATES when your ass dont even live in the fuckin states. You motherfuckers live  where the percent of Blacks is like .0012 . please shut the fuck up. like eye dont overstand how ya motherfuckers have the nerve to open your fuckin mouths. no wonder why you running around saying nigga this and nigga that because they aint no Blacks out there to bitch slap your wigger ass. fuckin bullshit

I don't have to spend a summer in Phoenix to know that it's hot.
Are you guys such savages, that you bitch slap a person for using the exact same vocab that you do?
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Nat Turner-reincarnated on October 31, 2008, 02:41:16 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
how can you speak on race relations in the STATES when your ass dont even live in the fuckin states. You motherfuckers live  where the percent of Blacks is like .0012 . please shut the fuck up. like eye dont overstand how ya motherfuckers have the nerve to open your fuckin mouths. no wonder why you running around saying nigga this and nigga that because they aint no Blacks out there to bitch slap your wigger ass. fuckin bullshit

I don't have to spend a summer in Phoenix to know that it's hot.
Are you guys such savages, that you bitch slap a person for using the exact same vocab that you do?
OH SHIT WATCH OUT EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE SUMMER IN PHOENIX!!!!!!!! you certified now....................get the fuck out of here...........
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on October 31, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.
do you know how full of shit you are. youre a white boy who uses the word nigga. YOU LOST automatically. do you even live in the state? MATTER OF FACT HOW MANY OF YOU CRACKERS SPEAKING ON SHIT YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT?? How many you white fuckers cant even vote because ya motherfuckers dont even live in the US?

You use the term "cracker" and spout off shit in caps. Not really winner-behavior, is it? I can't vote, so I can't speak on shit? Riiiight. If I was black I'd feel ashamed reading your posts.
how can you speak on race relations in the STATES when your ass dont even live in the fuckin states. You motherfuckers live  where the percent of Blacks is like .0012 . please shut the fuck up. like eye dont overstand how ya motherfuckers have the nerve to open your fuckin mouths. no wonder why you running around saying nigga this and nigga that because they aint no Blacks out there to bitch slap your wigger ass. fuckin bullshit

I don't have to spend a summer in Phoenix to know that it's hot.
Are you guys such savages, that you bitch slap a person for using the exact same vocab that you do?
OH SHIT WATCH OUT EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONE SUMMER IN PHOENIX!!!!!!!! you certified now....................get the fuck out of here...........

Pop a xanax, relax.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on October 31, 2008, 05:05:45 PM

Are you guys such savages, that you bitch slap a person for using the exact same vocab that you do?

Yes, blacks are savages. That's why they rob, kill, and rape far more than whites, no matter what country they're in. It's in their genetics. And JOB knows this, too, but of course, he'll blame whitey for everything. Negro just can't accept his own shortcomings.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on November 03, 2008, 06:11:50 AM

Are you guys such savages, that you bitch slap a person for using the exact same vocab that you do?

Yes, blacks are savages. That's why they rob, kill, and rape far more than whites, no matter what country they're in. It's in their genetics. And JOB knows this, too, but of course, he'll blame whitey for everything. Negro just can't accept his own shortcomings.
 

lol
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on November 03, 2008, 10:08:18 AM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.

Credit is given where credit is due. Yeah, its good that there are so many people who are willing to vote for Obama even though they are white. But for someone like yourself (particularly seeing as how you live in Germany) to pretend as if race has not, and is not still a huge issue in this country is fuckin retarded. Youre so quick to accept generalizations about others, but as soon as there is a generalization about white people being racist, you fight it to the death lol. All white people are not racist, obviously...or none of them would vote for him. But there are still a HUGE amount of white people who will vote against him because he IS Black. What I wonder is why you dont give credit to Obama for making this far, rather then giving credit to white people for allowing him to get this far.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on November 03, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.

Credit is given where credit is due. Yeah, its good that there are so many people who are willing to vote for Obama even though they are white. But for someone like yourself (particularly seeing as how you live in Germany) to pretend as if race has not, and is not still a huge issue in this country is fuckin retarded. Youre so quick to accept generalizations about others, but as soon as there is a generalization about white people being racist, you fight it to the death lol. All white people are not racist, obviously...or none of them would vote for him. But there are still a HUGE amount of white people who will vote against him because he IS Black. What I wonder is why you dont give credit to Obama for making this far, rather then giving credit to white people for allowing him to get this far.

Obama is given credit left and right, wherever I look. I'm the type of person who doesn't feel the necessity of giving something or someone credit publically, if the entity is already recognized properly. Like Jared Taylor said, white racists don't hurt Obama, as those people who never vote for a Democrat anyway. In fact, I think that rednecks, hicks and other openly ignorant, fairly stupid whites help Obama. When you hear news about what some backwards white guy in the crowd said during a McCain event, you want to be different. I can tell you, there's not a too small fraction of whites who are voting for Obama for the sole reason of not being seen as being like that. So in conclusion, it is flat out wrong to blame any possible failure of Obama on white racists from that point on.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Kill on November 03, 2008, 12:41:01 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.

Credit is given where credit is due. Yeah, its good that there are so many people who are willing to vote for Obama even though they are white. But for someone like yourself (particularly seeing as how you live in Germany) to pretend as if race has not, and is not still a huge issue in this country is fuckin retarded. Youre so quick to accept generalizations about others, but as soon as there is a generalization about white people being racist, you fight it to the death lol. All white people are not racist, obviously...or none of them would vote for him. But there are still a HUGE amount of white people who will vote against him because he IS Black. What I wonder is why you dont give credit to Obama for making this far, rather then giving credit to white people for allowing him to get this far.

Obama is given credit left and right, wherever I look. I'm the type of person who doesn't feel the necessity of giving something or someone credit publically, if the entity is already recognized properly. Like Jared Taylor said, white racists don't hurt Obama, as those people who never vote for a Democrat anyway. In fact, I think that rednecks, hicks and other openly ignorant, fairly stupid whites help Obama. When you hear news about what some backwards white guy in the crowd said during a McCain event, you want to be different. I can tell you, there's not a too small fraction of whites who are voting for Obama for the sole reason of not being seen as being like that. So in conclusion, it is flat out wrong to blame any possible failure of Obama on white racists from that point on.
Not a bad point, except people don't watch you as you actually vote. People look at who you say you're gonna vote for. Obviously that's nothing to do with KKK rednecks who either vote Republican or don't vote at all and prefer spending their time dreaming of the fascist revolution. It's about people who don't want to be labelled racist, claim not to be racist, but are actually racist to that very limited extent which might still make them side with the white guy when it comes down to it and no one's watching. I'm not saying this is gonna be the no. 1 decisive factor tomorrow, but it might not be entirely irrelevant in, say, North Carolina.

Oh yeah, and this
(http://web.knoxnews.com/silence/archives/jesusland.jpg)
unfortunately still is an American problem
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on November 03, 2008, 01:47:35 PM
I agree that religion can be a true pain in the ass, but it plays a more horrendous role in other parts of the world. No doubt some people tell polls and friends they vote for person X and then go and vote for person Y ... the Obama situation is not unique in that regard. But like I said, white racists don't tend to vote for a Democrat anyway. So why get worked up over that? There's many whites who don't like the socialism in Obama's policies, but still gon' actually  vote for him in order to sleep better. Obama's skin color might have hurt him on his way up, but it is not hurting him today. Just to evade mis-interpretation: I am not at all denying that there are people who will not vote for him because of his ethnicity and would vote for him if he was white. I'm just saying that, mathematically speaking, those people don't out-weigh the people who consciously or sub-consciously wouldn't find him as interesting if he was white and therefore would not vote for him. To blame whites for a possible failure of Obama is the equivalent of blaming McCain's failure on "young people", "white liberals", "proud minorities" or even "democrats". Not necessarily wrong, but very misleading. I personally think the mind-set of "Blame white racists for Obama's possible failure" is extremely corny, and more of an attack on whites in general than a rational analysis of the situation.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Javier on November 03, 2008, 02:57:43 PM
I just want to state that important political strategists of the 60s-80s has shaped the current two major political parties.  The hardcore christian vote has benefited both parties in different eras. The Civil Rights movement  split the Democrats, basically all the progressives stayed with the party and majority of the Southern Democrats left the party.  All of that led Republican Strategist to figure out a way to get the racist Christian vote with the party's platform as a form of guideline, specifically in the South. Cutting programs, cutting taxes, etc became an abstract version of I hate niggers.  What Obama is showing is just how the country's political ideology can shift so quickly thanks to the fuck ups of one president. 
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on November 03, 2008, 03:30:40 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.

Credit is given where credit is due. Yeah, its good that there are so many people who are willing to vote for Obama even though they are white. But for someone like yourself (particularly seeing as how you live in Germany) to pretend as if race has not, and is not still a huge issue in this country is fuckin retarded. Youre so quick to accept generalizations about others, but as soon as there is a generalization about white people being racist, you fight it to the death lol. All white people are not racist, obviously...or none of them would vote for him. But there are still a HUGE amount of white people who will vote against him because he IS Black. What I wonder is why you dont give credit to Obama for making this far, rather then giving credit to white people for allowing him to get this far.

Obama is given credit left and right, wherever I look. I'm the type of person who doesn't feel the necessity of giving something or someone credit publically, if the entity is already recognized properly. Like Jared Taylor said, white racists don't hurt Obama, as those people who never vote for a Democrat anyway. In fact, I think that rednecks, hicks and other openly ignorant, fairly stupid whites help Obama. When you hear news about what some backwards white guy in the crowd said during a McCain event, you want to be different. I can tell you, there's not a too small fraction of whites who are voting for Obama for the sole reason of not being seen as being like that. So in conclusion, it is flat out wrong to blame any possible failure of Obama on white racists from that point on.

Ok, again. Youre not here. Point blank. What percentage of White people would you say wont vote for a Black man? A hard thing to figure out, but even harder to figure out from Germany. Black people make up a very small percentage of this country. The amount of White people (some hispanics included) who will vote against Obama due to race very much outweighs the amount of Black people who will vote for him due to race. Youre talking what, 1 out of every 10 White or Hispanic voters having an issue with a Black President being enough to counteract any Black votes for Obama (even the ones who are voting strictly on the issues). Sounds pretty likely. So to assume that voting wont be influenced by peoples desire to not have a Black President is completely ignorant. Im not saying he wont win, but if he does...it will be with the odds stacked against him more then any other candidate in history. He will be battling the rich, Christian fanatics, and racism.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on November 03, 2008, 03:36:25 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.

Credit is given where credit is due. Yeah, its good that there are so many people who are willing to vote for Obama even though they are white. But for someone like yourself (particularly seeing as how you live in Germany) to pretend as if race has not, and is not still a huge issue in this country is fuckin retarded. Youre so quick to accept generalizations about others, but as soon as there is a generalization about white people being racist, you fight it to the death lol. All white people are not racist, obviously...or none of them would vote for him. But there are still a HUGE amount of white people who will vote against him because he IS Black. What I wonder is why you dont give credit to Obama for making this far, rather then giving credit to white people for allowing him to get this far.

Obama is given credit left and right, wherever I look. I'm the type of person who doesn't feel the necessity of giving something or someone credit publically, if the entity is already recognized properly. Like Jared Taylor said, white racists don't hurt Obama, as those people who never vote for a Democrat anyway. In fact, I think that rednecks, hicks and other openly ignorant, fairly stupid whites help Obama. When you hear news about what some backwards white guy in the crowd said during a McCain event, you want to be different. I can tell you, there's not a too small fraction of whites who are voting for Obama for the sole reason of not being seen as being like that. So in conclusion, it is flat out wrong to blame any possible failure of Obama on white racists from that point on.
Not a bad point, except people don't watch you as you actually vote. People look at who you say you're gonna vote for. Obviously that's nothing to do with KKK rednecks who either vote Republican or don't vote at all and prefer spending their time dreaming of the fascist revolution. It's about people who don't want to be labelled racist, claim not to be racist, but are actually racist to that very limited extent which might still make them side with the white guy when it comes down to it and no one's watching. I'm not saying this is gonna be the no. 1 decisive factor tomorrow, but it might not be entirely irrelevant in, say, North Carolina.


Bradley effect. The polls are always completely misleading. People are never honest. I work in sales, and the white dude that works with me always complains about white people. "theyre the only people who wont just be honest and tell you they dont like something. They always pretend like they like what you have, and then make up an excuse why they wont buy it....rather then just being honest and saying no." The people responding to the polls will more then likely do the same thing.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: 7even on November 03, 2008, 04:59:01 PM
How about giving non-black people credit for letting Obama coming this far? LOL@blacks still calling whites racist. Imagine a scenario in which 70% of people were black, 12% white and there's always been black persidents in the history of the country. Do you think a white guy would have a chance? Let alone, noone would not not vote for him because of his skin? Get the fuck outta here. Voting for McCain might sound absurd to you guys, but it's far less absurd than voting for Bush the 2nd time. And Kerry was white. So get the fuck outta here with that whites are so so racist bullshit, cause other races aren't any better.

Credit is given where credit is due. Yeah, its good that there are so many people who are willing to vote for Obama even though they are white. But for someone like yourself (particularly seeing as how you live in Germany) to pretend as if race has not, and is not still a huge issue in this country is fuckin retarded. Youre so quick to accept generalizations about others, but as soon as there is a generalization about white people being racist, you fight it to the death lol. All white people are not racist, obviously...or none of them would vote for him. But there are still a HUGE amount of white people who will vote against him because he IS Black. What I wonder is why you dont give credit to Obama for making this far, rather then giving credit to white people for allowing him to get this far.

Obama is given credit left and right, wherever I look. I'm the type of person who doesn't feel the necessity of giving something or someone credit publically, if the entity is already recognized properly. Like Jared Taylor said, white racists don't hurt Obama, as those people who never vote for a Democrat anyway. In fact, I think that rednecks, hicks and other openly ignorant, fairly stupid whites help Obama. When you hear news about what some backwards white guy in the crowd said during a McCain event, you want to be different. I can tell you, there's not a too small fraction of whites who are voting for Obama for the sole reason of not being seen as being like that. So in conclusion, it is flat out wrong to blame any possible failure of Obama on white racists from that point on.

Ok, again. Youre not here. Point blank. What percentage of White people would you say wont vote for a Black man? A hard thing to figure out, but even harder to figure out from Germany. Black people make up a very small percentage of this country. The amount of White people (some hispanics included) who will vote against Obama due to race very much outweighs the amount of Black people who will vote for him due to race. Youre talking what, 1 out of every 10 White or Hispanic voters having an issue with a Black President being enough to counteract any Black votes for Obama (even the ones who are voting strictly on the issues). Sounds pretty likely. So to assume that voting wont be influenced by peoples desire to not have a Black President is completely ignorant. Im not saying he wont win, but if he does...it will be with the odds stacked against him more then any other candidate in history. He will be battling the rich, Christian fanatics, and racism.

Why do you choose to ignore what I say, then quote me regardless just to tell what has already been said, combined with the irrelevant fact that I'm not American? Does that get you anywhere? I'm not saying that just blacks vote for Obama because of his color. It can also be a reason for whites to do so, and I gave an effort to make that thesis clear to anybody. I also made clear why outright racists don't matter. Yet you choose to ignore all that and more entirely. I feel quite insulted.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on November 03, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
7even, you're not going to win against this Dragonstylz person. He is bound to come up with any conclusion that makes him feel comfortable.

I should point out that he claims Christians have killed more than Muslims historically, and I proved it wasn't so. He hasn't responded since.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Chief on November 03, 2008, 05:57:29 PM
voting mc cain would be like voting a 3rd bush!!!
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on November 03, 2008, 06:10:48 PM
voting mc cain would be like voting a 3rd bush!!!

While I did not vote for McCain, I think you should shut up. You don't live in this country.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: The King on November 03, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
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I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

What is a VP? Their job, number one, is be ready to replace the President if something happens. Palin has shown she has no experience, and no knowledge. What does Obama know about the economy? What does McCain know? They know what their advisers tell them. Experience is a minor thing anyways. Look at Clinton or Kennedy, no "experience" by your standards, but great presidents. Look at Bush, lots of experience, horrible President. The thing you need to ask yourself is, what kind of person do you want running the country? The educated, young person? Or the old man. Experience means nothing if you're a moron. Palin proved that. Cheney proved that. Bush proved that. Rumsfeld proved that.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on November 03, 2008, 07:52:55 PM
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I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

What is a VP? Their job, number one, is be ready to replace the President if something happens. Palin has shown she has no experience, and no knowledge. What does Obama know about the economy? What does McCain know? They know what their advisers tell them. Experience is a minor thing anyways. Look at Clinton or Kennedy, no "experience" by your standards, but great presidents. Look at Bush, lots of experience, horrible President. The thing you need to ask yourself is, what kind of person do you want running the country? The educated, young person? Or the old man. Experience means nothing if you're a moron. Palin proved that. Cheney proved that. Bush proved that. Rumsfeld proved that.

You have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen on this board. Experience equals the wherewithal to endure a crisis at any given time. Obama has NONE and he is the one running for president. You are trying to give Obama a pass with asinine statements. A VP is just a VP. Don't you think the person who is acutally going to be the president should have the knowledge to actually run a country? The "old man" is just as educated, if not more, than the "educated young person".

Clinton was the reason why APRs were given out at astounding rates, helping cause this economic turmoil we are in. He's hardly a "great" president. You give terrible examples. Do you even research what you write?
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on November 03, 2008, 07:54:28 PM
Do you even research what you write?

Rhetorical question, of course. Don't answer it, Mr. "King".
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: The King on November 03, 2008, 07:59:31 PM
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I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

What is a VP? Their job, number one, is be ready to replace the President if something happens. Palin has shown she has no experience, and no knowledge. What does Obama know about the economy? What does McCain know? They know what their advisers tell them. Experience is a minor thing anyways. Look at Clinton or Kennedy, no "experience" by your standards, but great presidents. Look at Bush, lots of experience, horrible President. The thing you need to ask yourself is, what kind of person do you want running the country? The educated, young person? Or the old man. Experience means nothing if you're a moron. Palin proved that. Cheney proved that. Bush proved that. Rumsfeld proved that.

You have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen on this board. Experience equals the wherewithal to endure a crisis at any given time. Obama has NONE and he is the one running for president. You are trying to give Obama a pass with asinine statements. A VP is just a VP. Don't you think the person who is acutally going to be the president should have the knowledge to actually run a country? The "old man" is just as educated, if not more, than the "educated young person".

Clinton was the reason why APRs were given out at astounding rates, helping cause this economic turmoil we are in. He's hardly a "great" president. You give terrible examples. Do you even research what you write?

Listen junior, I can't argue with your bullshit opinions. Who handled the economic crisis better? McCain, or Obama? What crisis has McCain handled as a Senator? Senators don't handle crisis's. They sit, they vote, they write bills. Don't give me bullshit. Clinton was a whole lot better then Bush, and who's policies does McCain support? Bush's. Who's policies does Clinton support? Obama's. It's simple son. Look at the fucking policies. And I'm talking about EDUCATION. You know, FORMAL EDUCATION? You're comparing a Harvard grad with someone who graduates at the bottom of their Naval Academy.

Yeah yeah, it's all Carters and Clintons fault we're in this crisis. Give me a break kid. You stick two examples of how Clinton is to blame for the economic crash. What about Biden? What about McCain? Aren't they just as at fault? Go read a book. If anyone is to blame for this shit, it's Bush. Bush hasn't done anything, for anyone, or made anything better, in 8 years. You're defending the same people who lied to your face about the Iraq war. Yet you still trust these war mongers. How educated could McCain be if he thought invading Iraq was a good idea? Really son. This isn't complicated shit. The last 8 years proves, deregulation, free market, doesn't work. Bush's policies are garbage. Take you're arrogant trolling somewhere else, you're out of your league. Get some formal education, and meet me back here in 8 years.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on November 03, 2008, 08:01:48 PM
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I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

What is a VP? Their job, number one, is be ready to replace the President if something happens. Palin has shown she has no experience, and no knowledge. What does Obama know about the economy? What does McCain know? They know what their advisers tell them. Experience is a minor thing anyways. Look at Clinton or Kennedy, no "experience" by your standards, but great presidents. Look at Bush, lots of experience, horrible President. The thing you need to ask yourself is, what kind of person do you want running the country? The educated, young person? Or the old man. Experience means nothing if you're a moron. Palin proved that. Cheney proved that. Bush proved that. Rumsfeld proved that.

You have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen on this board. Experience equals the wherewithal to endure a crisis at any given time. Obama has NONE and he is the one running for president. You are trying to give Obama a pass with asinine statements. A VP is just a VP. Don't you think the person who is acutally going to be the president should have the knowledge to actually run a country? The "old man" is just as educated, if not more, than the "educated young person".

Clinton was the reason why APRs were given out at astounding rates, helping cause this economic turmoil we are in. He's hardly a "great" president. You give terrible examples. Do you even research what you write?

Listen junior, I can't argue with your bullshit opinions. Who handled the economic crisis better? McCain, or Obama? What crisis has McCain handled as a Senator? Senators don't handle crisis's. They sit, they vote, they write bills. Don't give me bullshit. Clinton was a whole lot better then Bush, and who's policies does McCain support? Bush's. Who's policies does Clinton support? Obama's. It's simple son. Look at the fucking policies. And I'm talking about EDUCATION. You know, FORMAL EDUCATION? You're comparing a Harvard grad with someone who graduates at the bottom of their Naval Academy.

Yeah yeah, it's all Carters and Clintons fault we're in this crisis. Give me a break kid. You stick two examples of how Clinton is to blame for the economic crash. What about Biden? What about McCain? Aren't they just as at fault? Go read a book.

OBAMA IS A GOD DAMN SENATOR TOO! Geez you are dumb. Maybe you should go read a book. At least I actually have a diploma and a degree you dipshit.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Chief on November 03, 2008, 08:03:57 PM
voting mc cain would be like voting a 3rd bush!!!

While I did not vote for McCain, I think you should shut up. You don't live in this country.

lol coming from an alias, i think you should just fuck off!!
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on November 03, 2008, 08:33:27 PM
voting mc cain would be like voting a 3rd bush!!!

While I did not vote for McCain, I think you should shut up. You don't live in this country.

lol coming from an alias, i think you should just fuck off!!

Are all Australians noodle-armed choir boys like you? Then again, you probably don't even care that Muslims are taking over your country.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: The King on November 03, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
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I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

What is a VP? Their job, number one, is be ready to replace the President if something happens. Palin has shown she has no experience, and no knowledge. What does Obama know about the economy? What does McCain know? They know what their advisers tell them. Experience is a minor thing anyways. Look at Clinton or Kennedy, no "experience" by your standards, but great presidents. Look at Bush, lots of experience, horrible President. The thing you need to ask yourself is, what kind of person do you want running the country? The educated, young person? Or the old man. Experience means nothing if you're a moron. Palin proved that. Cheney proved that. Bush proved that. Rumsfeld proved that.

You have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen on this board. Experience equals the wherewithal to endure a crisis at any given time. Obama has NONE and he is the one running for president. You are trying to give Obama a pass with asinine statements. A VP is just a VP. Don't you think the person who is acutally going to be the president should have the knowledge to actually run a country? The "old man" is just as educated, if not more, than the "educated young person".

Clinton was the reason why APRs were given out at astounding rates, helping cause this economic turmoil we are in. He's hardly a "great" president. You give terrible examples. Do you even research what you write?

Listen junior, I can't argue with your bullshit opinions. Who handled the economic crisis better? McCain, or Obama? What crisis has McCain handled as a Senator? Senators don't handle crisis's. They sit, they vote, they write bills. Don't give me bullshit. Clinton was a whole lot better then Bush, and who's policies does McCain support? Bush's. Who's policies does Clinton support? Obama's. It's simple son. Look at the fucking policies. And I'm talking about EDUCATION. You know, FORMAL EDUCATION? You're comparing a Harvard grad with someone who graduates at the bottom of their Naval Academy.

Yeah yeah, it's all Carters and Clintons fault we're in this crisis. Give me a break kid. You stick two examples of how Clinton is to blame for the economic crash. What about Biden? What about McCain? Aren't they just as at fault? Go read a book.

OBAMA IS A GOD DAMN SENATOR TOO! Geez you are dumb. Maybe you should go read a book. At least I actually have a diploma and a degree you dipshit.

You mad? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. "Obama is a Senator." Profound. A diploma and a degree? Quiet impressive. Sounds like a community college transferee. Come talk to me when you have a real degree. Keep up the bad work.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on November 03, 2008, 11:01:56 PM
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I'm not a fan of McCain, but you can't use inexperience as an excuse when Obama isn't anymore experienced than Palin. Obama is the one running for president. Palin isn't. You are right by saying they don't know shit about the economy, but what has Obama done to make him the defacto economic expert?

What is a VP? Their job, number one, is be ready to replace the President if something happens. Palin has shown she has no experience, and no knowledge. What does Obama know about the economy? What does McCain know? They know what their advisers tell them. Experience is a minor thing anyways. Look at Clinton or Kennedy, no "experience" by your standards, but great presidents. Look at Bush, lots of experience, horrible President. The thing you need to ask yourself is, what kind of person do you want running the country? The educated, young person? Or the old man. Experience means nothing if you're a moron. Palin proved that. Cheney proved that. Bush proved that. Rumsfeld proved that.

You have to be one of the dumbest people I have ever seen on this board. Experience equals the wherewithal to endure a crisis at any given time. Obama has NONE and he is the one running for president. You are trying to give Obama a pass with asinine statements. A VP is just a VP. Don't you think the person who is acutally going to be the president should have the knowledge to actually run a country? The "old man" is just as educated, if not more, than the "educated young person".

Clinton was the reason why APRs were given out at astounding rates, helping cause this economic turmoil we are in. He's hardly a "great" president. You give terrible examples. Do you even research what you write?

Listen junior, I can't argue with your bullshit opinions. Who handled the economic crisis better? McCain, or Obama? What crisis has McCain handled as a Senator? Senators don't handle crisis's. They sit, they vote, they write bills. Don't give me bullshit. Clinton was a whole lot better then Bush, and who's policies does McCain support? Bush's. Who's policies does Clinton support? Obama's. It's simple son. Look at the fucking policies. And I'm talking about EDUCATION. You know, FORMAL EDUCATION? You're comparing a Harvard grad with someone who graduates at the bottom of their Naval Academy.

Yeah yeah, it's all Carters and Clintons fault we're in this crisis. Give me a break kid. You stick two examples of how Clinton is to blame for the economic crash. What about Biden? What about McCain? Aren't they just as at fault? Go read a book.

OBAMA IS A GOD DAMN SENATOR TOO! Geez you are dumb. Maybe you should go read a book. At least I actually have a diploma and a degree you dipshit.

You mad? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. "Obama is a Senator." Profound. A diploma and a degree? Quiet impressive. Sounds like a community college transferee. Come talk to me when you have a real degree. Keep up the bad work.

You obviously know nothing of value and therefore you are not worth anymore of my time. All you do is spew idiocy. Go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Chief on November 04, 2008, 06:01:30 AM
voting mc cain would be like voting a 3rd bush!!!

While I did not vote for McCain, I think you should shut up. You don't live in this country.

lol coming from an alias, i think you should just fuck off!!

Are all Australians noodle-armed choir boys like you? Then again, you probably don't even care that Muslims are taking over your country.

what do you care? you're not from australia!
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Jared Taylor on November 04, 2008, 10:23:21 AM

what do you care? you're not from australia!

I don't care. That's exactly my point. Australia can let all the Muslims in and rot in Shar'ia hell for all I care.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Chief on November 05, 2008, 12:30:59 AM
lol

but like i said before, fuck off.

thats a gay ass alias you chose anyway, fail.
Title: Re: could someone explain to me why anyone would vote for mc cain???
Post by: Low Key on November 05, 2008, 01:50:37 AM
lol

but like i said before, fuck off.

thats a gay ass alias you chose anyway, fail.

After a quick follow up on the name Jared Taylor, I agree. He is an alias and it is very corny.