West Coast Connection Forum

DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lunatic on November 28, 2008, 10:21:01 AM

Title: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Lunatic on November 28, 2008, 10:21:01 AM
Look, they say tomorrow's not promised, but if it was I wouldn't get open
Wouldn't get suits them shits was made to be broken
'Member comin up dudes talkin bout hoes, boastin
I was just a Juvenile movin in Slow Motion
I dropped outta school to be a dude with mad jewelry
Once I got it shit wasn't even cool to me
I dreamt of condos and video vixens
Until I learned most girls in videos is pidgeons
I just wanted the world to see that I was for real wit it
Wanted a deal, I got it and couldn't deal wit it
I want me and my old homeboys to still kick it
I wish they saw me as Mouse and not a meal ticket
Let the beat play
I wish I could see a day wit no he say, she say, just wanna see Trey
Wanna play the hood and not fuck with the toasters
Middle child, wish me and my brother was closer
I wanna scream at her, catch myself before I start to
And then remember it takes two people to argue
All she do is provoke me
All I do is diss her
All I did was shake her
She say that I hit her
She just takin everything I say out of context
I'm tryin not to black, I'm like a nigga wit a complex
Was mad as a FUCK, didn't even show it
Yesterday was better off, didn't even know it
Complete role reversal so it's usless these days
TV got real, music went fake
Please help her for God's sake
When I proposed to the game I figured life was merry
5 years later I'm feelin like Tyler Perry
Maybe I'm exhausted, maybe I just lost it
Maybe I should pick up a pen and try 'n force it
Same old story, guts and no glory
They tryna low ball me, do him like Joe Torre
I reintroduced myself to the world, I'M JERZ
I'm a artist, I paint pictures, I don't rhyme words
More than a rapper I pay attention to detail
But how I do in retail tells me if I prevail
Leadin all the way see these trials and tribulations
Foul situations with some mild stipulations
I feel like being a addict cuz it hurts
But somethin 'bout dude makes bad shit worse
Look, its three types of niggas in this world ya know
So you either gon' make shit happen OR
Watch shit happen OR
Not know what happened
So i couldn't just sit there like 'FUCK rappin'
Its dudes with problems I couldn't imagine havin
If I had to have 'em I couldn't fathom me lastin, like
I used to bump into Tammy in the club
Few of them, she even helped a nigga get in
See a person long enough you know you bound to get fly wit em
Care for em, be more than high and by wit em
Its been a while, I can't front like I ain't phased
She was my reality check, cuz we the same age
I mean she put on a show that you CAN'T stage
She made the shit sound effortless
I was damn near in tears checkin my messages
I got goosebumps all over my skin
She said "Mouse I highly doubt that I'll ever see you again
Hope everything is well kid
You see I'm just findin out I have a brain tumor but I never felt it
The doctor's givin me three weeks to live
Not three weeks til I die, thats three weeks to give
I just wanna tell you that I love you and I care
I wish you all the best throughout the rest of your career"...
And then she broke into tears
I pressed 7, took the phone from my ears
Sometimes the simplest of things people need it
But I ain't call back in fear of being speechless
What was I to put her at ease wit?
I picked a real bad time to be stradegic
I think my lifes bad, pickin up the pieces
Some folk already got they appointment to see Jesus
In this world full of diseases
I've learned not to bite my tongue or have siezures
Depression tells me I suck
So I reply "I ain't here cuz I fell down, i'm here cuz I got up"
Shit came outta nowhere, was real random
According to him, I'm responsible for Jerz too
"I never helped niggas?" How the FUCK you think they heard you?
Muhfucka's got a lot of nerve duke
I was the nigga believed in you spittin
Had to con the industry just so they would listen
But go 'head, you just gon' wreck yourself
How was you protectin me, you can't protect yourself
Keep the lies to a minimal, just read your interview
And can't help but ask what's gotten into dude
Media training but he don't know how that go
It help you come across not soundin like an ASSHOLE
In my past though been to jail, I ain't enjoy it
So why would I stand behind the mic and exploit it?
I ain't ig'nant, just because I exercise spiritually
They try to ignore how I exercise lyrically
I thought I had a great job
Back when niggas loved the culture, wasn't in it for the money like a A-Rod
Even when I'm spittin bout current events
Its a sublime sayin 'Who's more current than him?'
So I'm wonderin, if a higher power tryna underman
When you shoot for the stars, sometimes you gonna jam
I ain't been to Summer Jam
I learned from Lupe: when you Dumb It Down its just harder to understand
2008, foes is still near me
So you can think I'm tight as FUCK, I'm still weary
The Geto Boys say its all in the mind
Certain wounds only heal over time
No shame in my game
No pain no gain
And since I ain't see a profit I figured God would stop it
Waitin on a alley, niggas just won't lob it
Still a risk taker lemme put it in words:
Can't steal second base and keep your foot on first
Been about 10 years since I was high off the angel
Now I'm walkin side by side with an angel
In front of my eyes that prize keep gettin dangled
But can't grab at it, my pride is being strangled
Workin shorty's nerves like a personal trainer
But its me, its personal, it ain't her
Friends keep tellin me "leave her," I won't
Cuz she sees somethin in me that I DON'T
And I see somethin in her that ya'll won't
If u never been in love don't tell me I'm wrong
See I preach gratitude, she keeps an attitude
Argue long enough and that shit becomes laughable
My norm now since my heart is so natural
Wish I could dwell into all them niggas after you
So not compatible, that we compatible
Its nothin else in this world that we would rather do
Anybody out there relate to my pain?
Turn the music up let me know that I'm sane
We broke up, bitches was starin' at my chain
Dude was fuckin you but starin' at my name
But we ain't gotta entertain all that
Back like we never left, we overcame all that
FUCK who made better tacos or who ass fatter
Its different now, right now, none of that matters
Keep bringin it up its gon' backlash us
Why am I meetin' so many backstabbers?
Why whenever I'm bout to crash I go faster?
Past is a disaster
When your house is see through, learn to close your eyes incase the
glass shatters
Just sayin, its always a million more pages when my stupid ass keep
thinkin I'm on the last chapter
No tit for tat, I ain't equipped for that
Deadin new yorks chitter chat with a midget mac
As I get older I keep gettin sick of rap
Wanna call it quits but a nigga can't picture that
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: penenstamp on November 28, 2008, 10:24:03 AM
dude... im not gonna read the lyrics of that entire verse or song. post it and i'll give feedback 8)
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: DTG Entertainment on November 28, 2008, 10:25:55 AM
dude... im not gonna read the lyrics of that entire verse or song. post it and i'll give feedback 8)

It's called Dear Diary. This song is amazing.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: Lunatic on November 28, 2008, 10:26:05 AM
dude... im not gonna read the lyrics of that entire verse or song. post it and i'll give feedback 8)
pay close attention to the lyrics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEv8dpd5CYU

he speaks the truth, from scandelous girls, to fake homies, the fucked up rap game, to his friend's/fam death. It was all real.

I got a lot of this from another board, its the truth though.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Meho on November 28, 2008, 11:01:19 AM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: BiggSadot on November 28, 2008, 11:19:56 AM
Royce is a good rapper, but he cant make these introspective personal songs like Joe.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: R1ZE on November 28, 2008, 11:37:14 AM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

agreed 100%
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: S P I C E on November 28, 2008, 12:18:32 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

agreed 100%
to each his own but as amazing as I think Royce is,  Budden is clearly the better rapper, he's the best alive as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Booz on November 28, 2008, 12:21:58 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

agreed 100%
to each his own but as amazing as I think Royce is,  Budden is clearly the better rapper, he's the best alive as far as I'm concerned.
No. I think Crooked and Ortiz are better.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Al Bundy on November 28, 2008, 12:27:48 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

agreed 100%
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: S P I C E on November 28, 2008, 12:28:52 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

agreed 100%
to each his own but as amazing as I think Royce is,  Budden is clearly the better rapper, he's the best alive as far as I'm concerned.
No. I think Crooked and Ortiz are better.

2 of my favorites but they aren't even close to as diverse as Budden is, Joey is able to make any type of song and has so much subject matter it's unreal.  You gotta listen to songs like "Explain My Life" "Three Sides to a Story" and "Dumb Out",  when I hear those songs it's hard not to think Joe Budden is the best rapper alive.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: 2euce 7even on November 28, 2008, 12:49:20 PM
dude´s dope.i like his songs.
he was beefin wit game but they´re cool now right?
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: Lunatic on November 28, 2008, 12:49:38 PM
dude´s dope.i like his songs.
he was beefin wit game but they´re cool now right?
ya there cool..game appears on the new budden single actually..
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Michael on November 28, 2008, 01:49:54 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

agreed 100%
to each his own but as amazing as I think Royce is,  Budden is clearly the better rapper, he's the best alive as far as I'm concerned.
No. I think Crooked and Ortiz are better.

2 of my favorites but they aren't even close to as diverse as Budden is, Joey is able to make any type of song and has so much subject matter it's unreal.  You gotta listen to songs like "Explain My Life" "Three Sides to a Story" and "Dumb Out",  when I hear those songs it's hard not to think Joe Budden is the best rapper alive.
my opinion also!
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: K.Dub on November 28, 2008, 04:39:55 PM
Joey is amazing. Joe over Royce easily for me.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: stillinrehab on November 28, 2008, 04:48:56 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 28, 2008, 04:58:26 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: hellrazor86 on November 29, 2008, 01:35:08 AM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)

Double Co-Sign from here.. Royce Is The best period.. second is Joy... then crook & Joell...!
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: AnybodyKilla on November 29, 2008, 03:12:16 AM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)

Double Co-Sign from here.. Royce Is The best period.. second is Joy... then crook & Joell...!

Ill triple co-sign that. Buddens a beast and i although i can still listen to hm, his voice does get annoying and boring, he needs to work on that!!!
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 29, 2008, 07:51:37 AM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)

Double Co-Sign from here.. Royce Is The best period.. second is Joy... then crook & Joell...!

Ill triple co-sign that. Buddens a beast and i although i can still listen to hm, his voice does get annoying and boring, he needs to work on that!!!

this might be the first "triple co-sign" in Dubcc history! :D :P
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on November 29, 2008, 09:25:50 AM
fuck that Joey>Royce...other than Crooked,to me budden has no rivals in this shit right now
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 29, 2008, 11:37:06 AM
Joe Budden is too real for this era of rap. If dude would've been around in the early 90s he would be respected as one of the best EVER. But when you have grown ass men crackin the souljaboy, songs like this get looked at as "boring" or "too depressing".
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: bez on November 29, 2008, 03:09:58 PM
Budden shudda blew up big time. He should be bigger than Weezy is. Shame really. I dont think people appreciate REAL hip hop anymore.
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: AnybodyKilla on November 29, 2008, 04:04:09 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)

Double Co-Sign from here.. Royce Is The best period.. second is Joy... then crook & Joell...!

Ill triple co-sign that. Buddens a beast and i although i can still listen to hm, his voice does get annoying and boring, he needs to work on that!!!

this might be the first "triple co-sign" in Dubcc history! :D :P

LOLLL!!!
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: Jome on November 29, 2008, 07:30:04 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)

Double Co-Sign from here.. Royce Is The best period.. second is Joy... then crook & Joell...!

Ill triple co-sign that. Buddens a beast and i although i can still listen to hm, his voice does get annoying and boring, he needs to work on that!!!

this might be the first "triple co-sign" in Dubcc history! :D :P

Let me quadruple co-sign this motherfucka.

He obviously got lyrics, but his voice and delivery... naah.  :-\

Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: S P I C E on November 29, 2008, 09:23:05 PM
Joe Budden is too real for this era of rap. If dude would've been around in the early 90s he would be respected as one of the best EVER. But when you have grown ass men crackin the souljaboy, songs like this get looked at as "boring" or "too depressing".

So true!!!  I couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest track
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 29, 2008, 09:48:27 PM
There's just something about Budden that makes me wanna turn the song off. I get bored with his voice or/and delivery. I mean he's definetly lyrical but imo Royce is 10x the rapper Budden is.

SPOT ON... simple as that man 8) Not hating cuz Joe is still sweet but you have hit the nail on the head right there!

co-sign. ;)

Double Co-Sign from here.. Royce Is The best period.. second is Joy... then crook & Joell...!

Ill triple co-sign that. Buddens a beast and i although i can still listen to hm, his voice does get annoying and boring, he needs to work on that!!!

this might be the first "triple co-sign" in Dubcc history! :D :P

Let me quadruple co-sign this motherfucka.

He obviously got lyrics, but his voice and delivery... naah.  :-\



someone has to co-sign this to the 5th & that record will never be broken. :D
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: MoodMuzik on November 29, 2008, 10:09:21 PM
Budden shudda blew up big time. He should be bigger than Weezy is. Shame really. I dont think people appreciate REAL hip hop anymore.
culdent have said it ny better
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on November 29, 2008, 10:15:11 PM
whens Crook droppin his mix tape/cd w/ ill bill?  i heard it was goin to be soon

Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on November 29, 2008, 11:31:35 PM
How is it when a person can say 3 words in a line and just cuz he says it with a slang or a gangsta bravado ppl hop on it.  And when dudes who can spit word for word connecting each scheme together without stopping, ppl don't see/respect the skill involved in that...  I dunno I guess it comes in time...

To me, if the delivery (different than flow) is on point, I don't give a fuck whatsoever about the beat or how he's riding it... 

So you got these cats with the killer delivery, and the best lyrics out but ppl sleep cuz they don't listen to the rapper rap...

That's what I find with alot of ppl who can't get into Budden, or East Coast Hip-Hop..  If Hip-Hop was acapella, without the beat, y'all would have alot different top 10 lists..  And of course the beat is half the genre, but I hate when ppl say so-and-so is a better artist, and they're talking about lyrics and delivery, and not beats..
Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: Chamillitary Click on November 30, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
^i love East-Coast; Budden's cool too...just something about him is just boring & its hard to get through a whole song by him... :-\

Title: Re: Joe Budden - 4 those who dont like him, this gotta be 1 of the realest tracks
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on November 30, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
^^ That's what Def Jam said.  lol.