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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Floydness on December 01, 2008, 10:40:03 AM
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The whole concept of karma is interesting and I would like to know your thoughts on it.. Do u honestly believe that what goes around comes around?
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I believe in karma very much so and have been a witness first hand that it exists. I am a very layed back and easy to get along with person but i choose my friends very carefully. I used to be more 'fuck you and your friends my crew will smash yall'... used to play around with a lot of women at a time an do some of them pretty dirty ::) But just this past year my whole world got rocked, i was in a serious car accident and i am lucky to be here. No i didnt become religious but it opened up my eyes to a lot of things. I am more open minded to why people can act certain ways. Stopped playing with these females like they are all hoes (most are, but there have to be good ones somewhere!), had a few try to play me.(Enjoy your karma as i leave you in the dust batches! 8) ) And i am just now realizing that karma is very real. If you arent trying to do something positive with your life and push forward, then who are you to expect good things to happen to you?
In retrospect its sad that it took 7 staples, hella stitches and me almost dying for me to just start realizing that there is more to life than just the area code i live in. There is a whole world out there, so if you arent at least trying to do something positive and push forward with your life then you cant expect to make any progress. Im not telling everyone to go be Mr Niceguy to everyone just so you will have good karma, no, you will get stepped on. Its all about finding that balance. You will never have only good things happen to you. Or only bad things, although, sometimes it may seem that there is just a never ending streak of good or bad shit going on. You just gotta take it with stride and keep on walking! 8)
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thats pretty interesting^^ any other replies? lol
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Why dont you tell us what you think lol?
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What I think? I think im confused lol... I dont know what to believe anymore.. At this point in my life I feel as though there are so many explanations as to why and how things happen.. A big part of me believes in karma but the real question I ask myself is "how do I know?". Seriously, how do I know that karma exists? The truth is that I dont know and I dont think anyone really knows, everyone in life just adds their 2 cents (sometimes more) to theories and nobody REALLY knows... I think that its all a matter of what you believe. I also strongly believe in the laws of attraction, so if you believe in karma so much (even subconsciously) you will see how karma is effective in your life. Ive also though about destiny.. Do we all have a destiny or are we destined to make our own?Is everything pre-planned or do we make our own plans that somehow lead us to where we end up in life.. is it up to us? And if it is, to what degree? Is this knowledge all really usefull or is a waste of time and energy because I wont ever know the answer? A lot of things run through my mind... It seems as though I was born in a state of confussion. Will I ever know the answer? If not me, who? ???
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I don't believe in most of the Buddist concepts I used to believe in, and karma is one of them. I started believing in karma when I was younger, really I would say I was an avid believer in it for around ten years from age 15 through age 25. Even as a Muslim I believed in it, because we have a similar concept in Islam, and that concept is that any good that you do Allah will reward you for it; or that likewise, the Qu'ran says "any bad that befalls you it is because of what your own hands have set forth".
Qu'ran verse 8:51
"This is for what your own hands have sent on before, and because Allah is not in the least unjust to the servants"
But I experienced the bad consequences of a belief in karma first hand. I kept making effort and self-sacrifice thinking that one day it would pay off and come back around to me, and I'd have to say I reached after many years there came a point when I finally had to admit that not only had it not paid off, but that I possibly even WORSE off than before. Which caused me to later research and find that my belief had not been rational.
So let's look at the concept of karma logically and we will see that it is false. First of all, it works upon the belief that if you give "good" to others than that "good" will come back to you. One problem is that "good" and "bad" are SUBJECTIVE terms. What is good for one person is not good for another. An easy example of this is the husband or wife who sacrifices greatly for their partner and believes they have done so much "good" for their loved one, and their partner leaves them for somebody who beats the shit out of them every night.
Obviously it was more "good" for that woman to have the shit beat out of her every night, rather than have a man who was sensitive and gentle with her.
Another example would be the crusades. Obviously those Christian, Muslims, Jews, who sacrifice their own happiness and struggle for God believe they are bringing great "good" to the world. While their enemy believes they are bringing great "harm" to the world. Or maybe even their fellow Christian or Muslim brother hates them as well, because they think they are distorting the religion. Look at Usama Bin Laden for example. To some Muslims him and his followers are great examples of self-sacrifice for the sake of a greater good, while to other Muslims they may say he's caused great destruction to befall on the Muslim world, or some say that he's distorting the religion of Islam and some may even say he's not really a Muslim at all.... or whatever... you have a million opinions because THE TRUTH IS SUBJECTIVE!
Let's take a less extreme example. Say Angelina Jolie for example doing charity in Africa. So maybe we say she's doing great "good" by giving to children in Africa. But maybe for Brad Pitt he feels he's being neglected and his needs aren't being met because she is busy saving children around the world.
These are all just some hypothetical examples to show what is "good" for one person can be "bad" for another.
Bottom line: If you want to bring about good for yourself, then don't go around thinking you are doing good for the world because the world may end up rejecting your charity. SO GIVE TO YOURSELF! ULTIMATELY YOUR OWN HAPPINESS IS THE ONLY THING YOU CAN CONTROL, AND SOMETIMES WE CAN'T EVEN MAKE OUR OWN SELVES HAPPY, SO HOW NAIVE IS IT TO THINK WE ARE MAKING OTHERS HAPPY?
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What I think? I think im confused lol... I dont know what to believe anymore.. At this point in my life I feel as though there are so many explanations as to why and how things happen.. A big part of me believes in karma but the real question I ask myself is "how do I know?". Seriously, how do I know that karma exists? The truth is that I dont know and I dont think anyone really knows, everyone in life just adds their 2 cents (sometimes more) to theories and nobody REALLY knows... I think that its all a matter of what you believe. I also strongly believe in the laws of attraction, so if you believe in karma so much (even subconsciously) you will see how karma is effective in your life. Ive also though about destiny.. Do we all have a destiny or are we destined to make our own?Is everything pre-planned or do we make our own plans that somehow lead us to where we end up in life.. is it up to us? And if it is, to what degree? Is this knowledge all really usefull or is a waste of time and energy because I wont ever know the answer? A lot of things run through my mind... It seems as though I was born in a state of confussion. Will I ever know the answer? If not me, who? ???
Truth is karma, your destiny,the bible and yes, santa claus are all fake. But its just, well, sort of common sense that if you do good, good is sure to come back around. Oh and this is probably a bad example but if you really need proof that karma exists, i bet if you murder someone you will be locked in a cage! ;)
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But its just, well, sort of common sense that if you do good, good is sure to come back around.
But what is "good"? Because what is "good" for one person can be bad for another person.
Even if you went around smiling in people's faces there would be someone who said, "I hate that mutherfucker smiling all the time, who the fuck does he think he is, why is he happy and I'm sad, I hate that guy!"
You could even say that the Buddists in Tibet that believe in Karma and believe they are doing so much "good" by meditating all day, are just a drain on the Tibetan economy.
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Im a shaolin kung fu practioner so i avidly believe in karma. But my actions are not based on the end result, i do my duty and then let everything else take care of itself. Its pretty funny that those who denounce karma, selfishly state that they "self-sacrificed" thinking that it would pay-off but they ended up WORSE than before, the works of god/karma/laws of universe, work in such magical ways that you can not truly discount that doing good things for other people did not work for you becuase you had not won the lottery that upcoming week, but if someone is wishfully confessing this to me on his deathbed, that he selfsacrificed but ended up worse than before i would be more ept on listening to him because he has experienced the full length of life and karma was no good to him. But i laugh at those who are like 20 years old and think that there is no good waiting for them anymore and that all the good things they have done are gone to waste. Just like truth is the daughter of time, patience is the father of karma.
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Im a shaolin kung fu practioner so i avidly believe in karma. But my actions are not based on the end result, i do my duty and then let everything else take care of itself. Its pretty funny that those who denounce karma, selfishly state that they "self-sacrificed" thinking that it would pay-off but they ended up WORSE than before, the works of god/karma/laws of universe, work in such magical ways that you can not truly discount that doing good things for other people did not work for you becuase you had not won the lottery that upcoming week, but if someone is wishfully confessing this to me on his deathbed, that he selfsacrificed but ended up worse than before i would be more ept on listening to him because he has experienced the full length of life and karma was no good to him. But i laugh at those who are like 20 years old and think that there is no good waiting for them anymore and that all the good things they have done are gone to waste. Just like truth is the daughter of time, patience is the father of karma.
But how do you know that you are doing "good"?
For example, if you bring someone a gift, how do you know they will like your gift? They may dislike your gift, and may be annoyed that now they have to fake like they like your gift, and use it in front of you, when in reality they'd rather you hadn't given them the gift at all. So now your actually wasting their time and doing them harm.
On the other hand, let's say Bill Gates works hard because he wants to be rich and successful so he can buy things he wants, but while doing this for selfish means, he employs millions of people and provides us with technology that makes our lives better. He was doing it to be selfish, yet he brought great good to the world by his selfishness.
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Im a shaolin kung fu practioner so i avidly believe in karma. But my actions are not based on the end result, i do my duty and then let everything else take care of itself. Its pretty funny that those who denounce karma, selfishly state that they "self-sacrificed" thinking that it would pay-off but they ended up WORSE than before, the works of god/karma/laws of universe, work in such magical ways that you can not truly discount that doing good things for other people did not work for you becuase you had not won the lottery that upcoming week, but if someone is wishfully confessing this to me on his deathbed, that he selfsacrificed but ended up worse than before i would be more ept on listening to him because he has experienced the full length of life and karma was no good to him. But i laugh at those who are like 20 years old and think that there is no good waiting for them anymore and that all the good things they have done are gone to waste. Just like truth is the daughter of time, patience is the father of karma.
But how do you know that you are doing "good"?
For example, if you bring someone a gift, how do you know they will like your gift? They may dislike your gift, and may be annoyed that now they have to fake like they like your gift, and use it in front of you, when in reality they'd rather you hadn't given them the gift at all. So now your actually wasting their time and doing them harm.
I am not taking anyone gifts to do good LOL. at my work i help the disabled and seniors help load heavy shit. After droping my car in the garage, i helped this blind man cross the street then i got him a taxi, turns out he was a gold medalist at the paralympics in Sydney 2000 pretty dope!
Dont get me wrong, i dont deserve a medal for doing these things, i just dont ignore em like most of the people though. And the things i stated above is what i count as doing good.
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I am not taking anyone gifts to do good LOL. at my work i help the disabled and seniors help load heavy shit, after droping my car in the garage, i helped this blind man cross the street then i got him a taxi, turns out he was a gold medalist at the paralympics in Sydney 2000 pretty dope!
You think what you are doing is "good" and I'm not disagreeing with you. I am only pointing out that what is good to some may be bad to others.
Ayn Rand and her followers for example would say that you are part of a great problem plaguing this world in which we focus our help and attention on the disabled, who provide little to society, and neglect the talented ones, upon whom so many people in society depend upon.
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I am not taking anyone gifts to do good LOL. at my work i help the disabled and seniors help load heavy shit, after droping my car in the garage, i helped this blind man cross the street then i got him a taxi, turns out he was a gold medalist at the paralympics in Sydney 2000 pretty dope!
You think what you are doing is "good" and I'm not disagreeing with you. I am only pointing out that what is good to some may be bad to others.
Ayn Rand and her followers for example would say that you are part of a great problem plaguing this world in which we focus our help and attention on the disabled, who provide little to society, and neglect the talented ones, upon whom so many people in society depend upon.
How does me helping a disabled senior citizen load like 10 bags of top soil in his car neglect someone talented?
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This thread is slowly spiraling out of control lol. I will take some time to
smoke think about this then reply again later 8) ::)
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How does me helping a disabled senior citizen load like 10 bags of top soil in his car neglect someone talented?
Because resources are limited. Our time on Earth is limited. So any time you spend with the senior citizen is time you could have spent doing something else. So while you are with the senior citizen you are neglecting everything else.
You fall under my Angelina Jolie example. Maybe Brad Pitt feels neglected when she is spending so much time doing charity in Africa. I am only speaking hypothetically. Maybe he loves her for that. I don't know. I'm just pointing out that while she is doing that there is other things she is neglecting. It's not possible to do more than one thing at a time.
...by the way, I'm not trying to tell you to stop doing what your doing, or that what your doing is bad. I think it's great what you are doing. I am just pointing out that "good" is subjective. So therefore, the concept of karma, that any "good" you bring to the world will come back to you is false. Because it's impossible to bring "good" to the world. Because what is "good" to one person may be bad to another. Look at all these technological advances that appear "good" to the world but then you have environmentalists complaining that the technology is "destroying the Earth for the next generations."
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How does me helping a disabled senior citizen load like 10 bags of top soil in his car neglect someone talented?
Because resources are limited. Our time on Earth is limited. So any time you spend with the senior citizen is time you could have spent doing something else. So while you are with the senior citizen you are neglecting everything else.
You fall under my Angelina Jolie example. Maybe Brad Pitt feels neglected when she is spending so much time doing charity in Africa. I am only speaking hypothetically. Maybe he loves her for that. I don't know. I'm just pointing out that while she is doing that there is other things she is neglecting. It's not possible to do more than one thing at a time.
...by the way, I'm not trying to tell you to stop doing what your doing, or that what your doing is bad. I think it's great what you are doing. I am just pointing out that "good" is subjective. So therefore, the concept of karma, that any "good" you bring to the world will come back to you is false. Because it's impossible to bring "good" to the world. Because what is "good" to one person may be bad to another. Look at all these technological advances that appear "good" to the world but then you have environmentalists complaining that the technology is "destroying the Earth for the next generations."
but see, you said that we should do things,that make us happy and helping a blind man cross the street is more selfsatisfying than being on the streets fuelling a coc addiction. so by helping the blind man im neglectin the coc addiction, the resources that i pertain within my range of abilities are being put to good use. And your brad and angelina jolie example has a lot of "maybes" for me to consider it but i like your technological example. But i pray that you do understand the balance of life, nothing on earth is just purely "good" Even something as the Quran, evil to many people for the way freedom fighers cite it to justify actions and good to a whole lot others.
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Very interesting responses... :)
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See I'm all for positivity and what not. But miss me with that karma shit. I mean, where do you draw the line? Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no. I always try to be just in my dealings but karma is just peoples way of rationalizing the good and the bad.
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but see, you said that we should do things,that make us happy and helping a blind man cross the street is more selfsatisfying than being on the streets fuelling a coc addiction. so by helping the blind man im neglectin the coc addiction, the resources that i pertain within my range of abilities are being put to good use. And your brad and angelina jolie example has a lot of "maybes" for me to consider it but i like your technological example. But i pray that you do understand the balance of life, nothing on earth is just purely "good" Even something as the Quran, evil to many people for the way freedom fighers cite it to justify actions and good to a whole lot others.
but maybe now the cocaine dealer will make less money and he can't feed his kids. Or maybe the cocaine dealer is a guy living in LA who was going to be the next 2pac and he needed the money for studio time to create an album that will put the West Coast back on top and make everyone at the dubcc happy. Or maybe if everyone in your generation was hooked on crack cocaine it would be good because it would reduce the population, and the next generations would benefit by less traffic, less pollution, and more affordable living space. In some countries overpopulation is a huge problem.
I know that sounds strange. If the karma concept works for you, then maybe it is real. Truth is a means to an end. "Truth" is something we use to better estimate possible outcomes. Like it's "true" that when I'm thirsty if I drink water it quenches my thirst. So the "truth" has a use. We know that a possible outcome of drinking water is quenching our thirst. But now the question becomes, why do we want to quench our thirst? Because it makes us feel better! So if believing in karma works for you and makes you feel better... well then I guess it is true enough. But for me at this current stage of my life it is not true to me.
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but see, you said that we should do things,that make us happy and helping a blind man cross the street is more selfsatisfying than being on the streets fuelling a coc addiction. so by helping the blind man im neglectin the coc addiction, the resources that i pertain within my range of abilities are being put to good use. And your brad and angelina jolie example has a lot of "maybes" for me to consider it but i like your technological example. But i pray that you do understand the balance of life, nothing on earth is just purely "good" Even something as the Quran, evil to many people for the way freedom fighers cite it to justify actions and good to a whole lot others.
but maybe now the cocaine dealer will make less money and he can't feed his kids. Or maybe the cocaine dealer is a guy living in LA who was going to be the next 2pac and he needed the money for studio time to create an album that will put the West Coast back on top and make everyone at the dubcc happy. Or maybe if everyone in your generation was hooked on crack cocaine it would be good because it would reduce the population, and the next generations would benefit by less traffic, less pollution, and more affordable living space. In some countries overpopulation is a huge problem.
I know that sounds strange. If the karma concept works for you, then maybe it is real. Truth is a means to an end. "Truth" is something we use to better estimate possible outcomes. Like it's "true" that when I'm thirsty if I drink water it quenches my thirst. So the "truth" has a use. We know that a possible outcome of drinking water is quenching our thirst. But now the question becomes, why do we want to quench our thirst? Because it makes us feel better! So if believing in karma works for you and makes you feel better... well then I guess it is true enough. But for me at this current stage of my life it is not true to me.
look bud i hope you understand that im not trying to push all of this karma fundamentals on you, im just telling you to keep your head and not be let down by your self sacrifices cause believe me they will pay off for you.
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See I'm all for positivity and what not. But miss me with that karma shit. I mean, where do you draw the line? Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no. I always try to be just in my dealings but karma is just peoples way of rationalizing the good and the bad.
word...i just do me and try and be the best person i can. i fuck up but anyone that knows me can always say the good outweighs the bad and with that im satisfied.
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i only believe in goblins
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Its all about finding that balance.
Money
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
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i believe in kramer
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possibly
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I believe in karma. That's why I don't feel sorry for girls that get raped in the butt and need a few stitches. They asked for it somewhere somehow.
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but maybe now the cocaine dealer will make less money and he can't feed his kids. Or maybe the cocaine dealer is a guy living in LA who was going to be the next 2pac and he needed the money for studio time to create an album that will put the West Coast back on top and make everyone at the dubcc happy. Or maybe if everyone in your generation was hooked on crack cocaine it would be good because it would reduce the population, and the next generations would benefit by less traffic, less pollution, and more affordable living space. In some countries overpopulation is a huge problem.
I know that sounds strange. If the karma concept works for you, then maybe it is real. Truth is a means to an end. "Truth" is something we use to better estimate possible outcomes. Like it's "true" that when I'm thirsty if I drink water it quenches my thirst. So the "truth" has a use. We know that a possible outcome of drinking water is quenching our thirst. But now the question becomes, why do we want to quench our thirst? Because it makes us feel better! So if believing in karma works for you and makes you feel better... well then I guess it is true enough. But for me at this current stage of my life it is not true to me.
Karma is as simple, yet as complicated as LIFE, existence and the universe itself. Its cause and effect, its mathematics on level and levels within levels son. Worlds rising, dying and ending.
It is being written with each day and is as much a part of existence as existence itself. Perhaps THE cause of existence. gatdamn.
Buddhists believe karma operates without any GOD, that is; without any arbitrary supernatural intervention.
Kind of also how the ancient Greeks believed that even the creator god Zeus walked in awe of the MOIRAI, You know them? Those 3 old hags always with that spinning wheel? The MOIRAI were three goddesses who were daughters of Mother Night, but they were concieved without a father...Zeus walked in awe of them and had no power over them as the Moirai were the progeny of the depths of the Night which was the oldest power in the universe....
THE SYMBOLSIM IS EVERYWHERE MUFAFUCARS!
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I believe in a sort of an "ebb and flow" of actions and trends that societies go through which reflect previous actions and trends. You could call that karma, but I don't believe in some person to person "you fucked my sister so you deserved to get in that car wreck" type of selfish philosophy. As Overfiend brought up, Buddhists believe that "karma" happens without God, and I believe that whole heatedly. A simple cause and effect, ebb and flow of attitudes and actions, that belong to US. We are responsible for carrying out "karma".
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Fuck yeah I believe in karma that bitche gives a mean lap dance I always wear my sweat pants when I know she's working
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everytime i give out -1 i seem to get one back the next day..its a bitch
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^ lol i see what you did there.
Thanks to this thread, i have stopped being a believer. I am now a prick to everyone because i realize that if someone tried being a prick to me, i could just be an even bigger prick. I can't lose.
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i believe in karma
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this thread almost sounds like my World Views & Philosophy class
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
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you're gay.....and?
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everytime i give out -1 i seem to get one back the next day..its a bitch
hahaha..
yes i believe in karma.
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
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you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
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you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
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nah, karma is a crock of shit
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I believe in karma. That's why I don't feel sorry for girls that get raped in the butt and need a few stitches. They asked for it somewhere somehow.
::) so when a baby is born handicapped, or a child gets abused, it deserves it becuz of its bad karma... how naive are u?
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
:camp:
you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
Jesus christ...There is no such thing as good or bad in this sense jackdick. There are actions and reactions. If I break my ankle and can't walk for a month it could be perceived as bad. However, it may have kept me from walking across the street and getting hit and killed by a car. Therefore breaking my ankle was arguably the greatest thing to happen to me. Spitting in someones face and therefore getting knocked the fuck out isn't karma, it's a reaction.
So if I do step on a bug and I'm not going to hell for it, what is the karmic response then? I will then get bit by a spider or something?
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I believe in karma. That's why I don't feel sorry for girls that get raped in the butt and need a few stitches. They asked for it somewhere somehow.
::) so when a baby is born handicapped, or a child gets abused, it deserves it becuz of its bad karma... how naive are u?
If a baby is born handicapped that's pure bad luck. One day positive karma will come back to them.
What if a baby is not physically handicapped, but mentally handicapped? That is not necessarily bad karma. Remember when you were 4 years old and you didn't have a clue about how life works and everything was done for you and you had practically no worries?
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I believe in karma. That's why I don't feel sorry for girls that get raped in the butt and need a few stitches. They asked for it somewhere somehow.
::) so when a baby is born handicapped, or a child gets abused, it deserves it becuz of its bad karma... how naive are u?
If a baby is born handicapped that's pure bad luck. One day positive karma will come back to them.
What if a baby is not physically handicapped, but mentally handicapped? That is not necessarily bad karma. Remember when you were 4 years old and you didn't have a clue about how life works and everything was done for you and you had practically no worries?
fine, but what if you get raped at the age of 2-4??? does it mean karma applies only to grown ups or in your oppinion only to women from the age of what, 16?
if you ask me this is just a bunch of bullshit.
there are people acting like the last immporal fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
:camp:
you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
Jesus christ...There is no such thing as good or bad in this sense jackdick. There are actions and reactions. If I break my ankle and can't walk for a month it could be perceived as bad. However, it may have kept me from walking across the street and getting hit and killed by a car. Therefore breaking my ankle was arguably the greatest thing to happen to me. Spitting in someones face and therefore getting knocked the fuck out isn't karma, it's a reaction.
So if I do step on a bug and I'm not going to hell for it, what is the karmic response then? I will then get bit by a spider or something?
you're an idiot...honestly
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
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you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
Jesus christ...There is no such thing as good or bad in this sense jackdick. There are actions and reactions. If I break my ankle and can't walk for a month it could be perceived as bad. However, it may have kept me from walking across the street and getting hit and killed by a car. Therefore breaking my ankle was arguably the greatest thing to happen to me. Spitting in someones face and therefore getting knocked the fuck out isn't karma, it's a reaction.
So if I do step on a bug and I'm not going to hell for it, what is the karmic response then? I will then get bit by a spider or something?
you're an idiot...honestly
ok then prove it by arguing my post.
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
:camp:
you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
Jesus christ...There is no such thing as good or bad in this sense jackdick. There are actions and reactions. If I break my ankle and can't walk for a month it could be perceived as bad. However, it may have kept me from walking across the street and getting hit and killed by a car. Therefore breaking my ankle was arguably the greatest thing to happen to me. Spitting in someones face and therefore getting knocked the fuck out isn't karma, it's a reaction.
So if I do step on a bug and I'm not going to hell for it, what is the karmic response then? I will then get bit by a spider or something?
you're an idiot...honestly
ok then prove it by arguing my post.
How can I argue something that goes completely over your head? It's not that you don't believe in karma, it's that you don't UNDERSTAND it. Now, if you only believe in actions and reactions, then you clearly don't believe in God. To think that you can just do evil shit without paying for it in one way or another only goes to show that you're an unspiritual being. Say, for instance, you believe that the only way there will be a reaction to you being a cheater is if someone caught you cheating...by the laws of karma, that is wrong. It's not what you do that dictates karma, it's the energy you put behind it. If you believe in God, which I doubt you do, you would have understood this concept a lot better...PeACe
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
:camp:
you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
Jesus christ...There is no such thing as good or bad in this sense jackdick. There are actions and reactions. If I break my ankle and can't walk for a month it could be perceived as bad. However, it may have kept me from walking across the street and getting hit and killed by a car. Therefore breaking my ankle was arguably the greatest thing to happen to me. Spitting in someones face and therefore getting knocked the fuck out isn't karma, it's a reaction.
So if I do step on a bug and I'm not going to hell for it, what is the karmic response then? I will then get bit by a spider or something?
you're an idiot...honestly
ok then prove it by arguing my post.
How can I argue something that goes completely over your head? It's not that you don't believe in karma, it's that you don't UNDERSTAND it. Now, if you only believe in actions and reactions, then you clearly don't believe in God. To think that you can just do evil shit without paying for it in one way or another only goes to show that you're an unspiritual being. Say, for instance, you believe that the only way there will be a reaction to you being a cheater is if someone caught you cheating...by the laws of karma, that is wrong. It's not what you do that dictates karma, it's the energy you put behind it. If you believe in God, which I doubt you do, you would have understood this concept a lot better...PeACe
I don't pretend to know if there is a God or not. I'm agnostic. I understand the concept of karma, but what I've said is where is the line drawn? Where does it begin and end? I can be the most unselfish, giving, loving person on earth and bad shit can still happen to me. Did bad shit ever happen to Ghandi? Mother Teresa? Jesus?
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I don't believe in karma until 500 posts ::)
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Like if I step on a bug, swat a fly, accidently spit in someones face when I talk - do I have repurcussions? Hell no.
LMAO :stupid:
:camp:
you're gay.....and?
and so explain to me where you draw the line with your karma bullshit.
there is no line, moron...if you step on a bug, you're not gunna go to hell for it, obviously. but when you give yourself persmision to knowingly inflict evil in any way shape or form, that's when shit starts coming back to bite you in the ass. there are different levels of evil, and depending upon how much you get into it, that's how much it's gunna come back at you. this is pretty much the same thing as believing in God. LOL@you not understand the concept of karma. "if i accidentally spit in someone's face, will I have repercussions?" LMAO.
Jesus christ...There is no such thing as good or bad in this sense jackdick. There are actions and reactions. If I break my ankle and can't walk for a month it could be perceived as bad. However, it may have kept me from walking across the street and getting hit and killed by a car. Therefore breaking my ankle was arguably the greatest thing to happen to me. Spitting in someones face and therefore getting knocked the fuck out isn't karma, it's a reaction.
So if I do step on a bug and I'm not going to hell for it, what is the karmic response then? I will then get bit by a spider or something?
you're an idiot...honestly
ok then prove it by arguing my post.
How can I argue something that goes completely over your head? It's not that you don't believe in karma, it's that you don't UNDERSTAND it. Now, if you only believe in actions and reactions, then you clearly don't believe in God. To think that you can just do evil shit without paying for it in one way or another only goes to show that you're an unspiritual being. Say, for instance, you believe that the only way there will be a reaction to you being a cheater is if someone caught you cheating...by the laws of karma, that is wrong. It's not what you do that dictates karma, it's the energy you put behind it. If you believe in God, which I doubt you do, you would have understood this concept a lot better...PeACe
I don't pretend to know if there is a God or not. I'm agnostic. I understand the concept of karma, but what I've said is where is the line drawn? Where does it begin and end? I can be the most unselfish, giving, loving person on earth and bad shit can still happen to me. Did bad shit ever happen to Ghandi? Mother Teresa? Jesus?
Three people with enormous legacies. Must be bad to have your name remembered for the rest of history, huh?
Honestly, though, it's nothing that can be proven, but the fact that you don't get the concept is mind-boggling. Again, there is no line...you do something intentionally/knowingly evil, there's a higher power watching, and you're gunna get something for that. that's the concept. there's different extents. that doesnt mean you're gunna die if you accidentally spit in someones face, and it also doesn't mean you wont have a comfortable life if you purposely killed someone...read up a lil more on energies. it's the energy you put behind what you do that determines the outcome, not what you actually do. there's a higher power. believing in that is what believing in karma essentially is...PeACe
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^^for gods sake, elior, youre still into this pointless arguing over 10ths of pages...
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fine, but what if you get raped at the age of 2-4??? does it mean karma applies only to grown ups or in your oppinion only to women from the age of what, 16?
if you ask me this is just a bunch of bullshit.
there are people acting like the last immporal fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
Good things will come back to you, unless you liked it and/or if you're a boy you pushed back.
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fine, but what if you get raped at the age of 2-4??? does it mean karma applies only to grown ups or in your oppinion only to women from the age of what, 16?
if you ask me this is just a bunch of bullshit.
there are people acting like the last immporal fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
Good things will come back to you, unless you liked it and/or if you're a boy you pushed back.
there are people acting like the last immoral fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
will such people then be punished or rewarded in their afterlife????
if u are religious, my bad, then logic is inapplicable
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fine, but what if you get raped at the age of 2-4??? does it mean karma applies only to grown ups or in your oppinion only to women from the age of what, 16?
if you ask me this is just a bunch of bullshit.
there are people acting like the last immporal fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
Good things will come back to you, unless you liked it and/or if you're a boy you pushed back.
there are people acting like the last immoral fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
will such people then be punished or rewarded in their afterlife????
if u are religious, my bad, then logic is inapplicable
I believe in reincarnation. You fuck up in this life, your next life will be fucked. Why do you think more babies are born in Africa than anywhere else in the world?
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^LMFAO
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fine, but what if you get raped at the age of 2-4??? does it mean karma applies only to grown ups or in your oppinion only to women from the age of what, 16?
if you ask me this is just a bunch of bullshit.
there are people acting like the last immporal fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
Good things will come back to you, unless you liked it and/or if you're a boy you pushed back.
there are people acting like the last immoral fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
will such people then be punished or rewarded in their afterlife????
if u are religious, my bad, then logic is inapplicable
I believe in reincarnation. You fuck up in this life, your next life will be fucked. Why do you think more babies are born in Africa than anywhere else in the world?
honestly what a bunch of stupid bs :-\
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Karma is a bitch! don't you think?
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fine, but what if you get raped at the age of 2-4??? does it mean karma applies only to grown ups or in your oppinion only to women from the age of what, 16?
if you ask me this is just a bunch of bullshit.
there are people acting like the last immporal fuck ups and they die a sweet happy death, there are little children, the innocensce in itself, who can die the most cruel deaths, or people who behaved morally correct mostof their life, still they get shot, raped, tortured...how can u explain that with your karma-logic`?
Hahaaa. Good point.
I see it like this:
in SPACE when a supernova or a star implodes and wipes out a few million planets...is that good or bad karma? A black hole wrecking immense destruction devouring worlds is that 'good' or 'bad' karma?
Some things simply are. And that is also karma.
When a baby is born deformed screaming in pain upon the cold sting of the world...is that good or bad karma? That is also karma.
Our minds rationalize things and events into 'good' or 'bad'. This is so we can shift through the information of the world and understand it.
However the characteristic thing about karma is that there are an infinite array of possibilities...KARMA is vast and not always comprehensible:
although it is the balancing current of existence to the point where it eventually addresses the 'good' and the 'bad'; it also encompasses everything else. And that is a big everything else.
Of course the more extreme effects of good or bad karma are the most discernable to us in our everyday lives.
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No and yea. I believe life is a bunch of random events that occur from your conception until your death. However, if you think about it, a person that does a lot of fucked up things usually faces a fucked up fate, but there are cases where a good person suffers an even more fucked up fate. So I think life may be a little bit of randomness mixed in with karma.