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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Elano on December 13, 2008, 10:45:07 AM
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One week of riots,greece is wrecked :o
ATHENS, Greece A week after the police killing of a 15-year-old boy triggered riots across Greece, young protesters promised Saturday to remain on the streets until their concerns are addressed.
Greek youths taking part in protests every day since the boy's death are angry not just at the police but at an increasingly unpopular government and over economic issues.
Violent protests have injured at least 70 people and left hundreds of stores smashed and looted in the past week. More than 200 people have been arrested.
While most of the protesters have been peaceful, the tone of the demonstrations has been set by a violent fringe. And more young people have been willing to join them than in the past.
Several dozen students held a peaceful sit-down demonstration Saturday in Athens' central Syntagma Square. Early in the afternoon, a crowd of about 1,000 people gathered peacefully at Syntagma and another 1,000 demonstrated in the northern city of Thessaloniki. A vigil is set for the place and time - 9 p.m. local time (1900 GMT) - that 15-year-old Alexandros Grigoropoulos was fatally shot by a police officer.
One 16-year-old student at the sit-down demonstration, who gave only her first name, Veatriki, said young people her age felt their voices were being heard, immediately, when they smashed a shop window or a car.
She also said young people want to see the policemen involved in the shooting punished and the police disarmed.
The two officers involved in the boy's shooting were arrested. One was charged with murder and the other as an accomplice. The circumstances surrounding the shooting are unclear.
"We are entering a long period of economic crisis," said Giorgos Kyrtsos, publisher of the City Press and Free Sunday newspapers. "But there is also a deepening social crisis, combined with a weakened state. We are truly at a crossroads."
Kyrtsos, a conservative, was highly critical of the government's handling of the protests.
"This is the only government I remember that has managed to alienate both the rebellious youth and the law-and-order crowd. It has nothing to offer to anybody," he said.
Kyrtsos said the hard-core anarchists "number about 500 and certainly less than 1,000." They are joined in the protests "by an anti-social element, many of them soccer hooligans and by many young people who seek excitement but also feel a diffuse sense of frustration and of not being listened to."
Paris Kyriakides, 32, who described himself as an anarchist, said that attacks against banks, ministries, police stations and large chain stores were decided collectively, in assemblies.
Asked about the smashing and looting of small stores, he said they were "an aberration" in which "the poor and immigrants that are oppressed by the system" joined in.
"In the end, the violence that we use is minimal in comparison to the violence of the system uses, like the banks," Kyriakides said. He added that the protest movement was "a multifaceted one composed of many groups including students, anarchists, anti-government activists, communists, workers and immigrants...all these people who have experienced police violence and the violence of the system."
At the site where Grigoropoulos was shot, messages were posted on a wall. One read: "Those who trained the murderers will regret it." Scores of people came to leave flowers and pin messages to a notice board. A privately made street sign bearing the teenager's name was placed on the corner of the block.
Christmas shoppers cautiously returned to central Athens Saturday, but many shops boarded up their windows instead of replacing the glass, for fear of further violence.
Glazier Michalis Mentis said he had replaced several storefronts twice. "There's been a lot of work for us but it's very bad for businesses in general," Mentis said. "It's very lucky more people were not hurt, because there was so much damage."
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(fire bombs against police)
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(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01203/brick-throw_1203320i.jpg)
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(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01203/tear-gas-police_1203316i.jpg)
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01203/burning-looting_1203319i.jpg)
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01203/police-glue_1203313i.jpg)
A riot policeman's shield and helmet are obscured after being hit with water mixed with glue thrown by a girl outside parliament
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A woman shouts at riot police during a demonstration in front of the Greek parliament building
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A protester smashes marble slabs with a hammer near the Greek parliament
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(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01203/gas-mask_1203312i.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/v/LgaHJ0h9mVE
http://www.youtube.com/v/N495qNGT3P8
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coming to a city near you soon
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Kyrtsos said the hard-core anarchists "number about 500 and certainly less than 1,000." They are joined in the protests "by an anti-social element, many of them soccer hooligans and by many young people who seek excitement but also feel a diffuse sense of frustration and of not being listened to."
total bullshit.soccer hooligans my ass. they are not even anarchists. 18yearolds been makin these crazy riots and some fucked up people.
Also they just found an opportunity to start destroying shit.
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Awesome pics.
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This shows why America is full of do nothing pussies. When the government pisses on you in Europe, people roam the streets. But in the US, where the government has basically screwed you over 10 fold, people don't do shit. Seriously, people should riot more. That's what a civilized country does.
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(http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2008/athens_riots/athens_2.jpg)
looks like fun
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Stupid fucking Greeks. They aren't made for city life. They still had their King Constantine this would have been taken care of by now.
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This shows why America is full of do nothing pussies. When the government pisses on you in Europe, people roam the streets. But in the US, where the government has basically screwed you over 10 fold, people don't do shit. Seriously, people should riot more. That's what a civilized country does.
No, it's what savages who can't win by argument and reason do. Americans are more civilized.
More proof of what a typical anti-American Euro-moron Muslim sympathizer you are.
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Stupid fucking Greeks. They aren't made for city life. They still had their King Constantine this would have been taken care of by now.
You must be a retard. While you and your faggot-sheep citizents get raped by your own Goverment we have a voice here. Fuck King Constantine. If he was here shit would be more corrupted. We did the right thing to kick his ass out of here.
Talking about city life? We made the first cities. So shut your shit up.
Go shit your pants now and obey to the orders your bosses give you.
A.C.A.B
I'm 99% sure your American or Canadien from the stupid comment that you made.
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This shows why America is full of do nothing pussies. When the government pisses on you in Europe, people roam the streets. But in the US, where the government has basically screwed you over 10 fold, people don't do shit. Seriously, people should riot more. That's what a civilized country does.
No, it's what savages who can't win by argument and reason do. Americans are more civilized.
More proof of what a typical anti-American Euro-moron Muslim sympathizer you are.
How can you argue with a government that is fucked up and full of lies? Such goverments dont give a fuck.
Look at your fucking government hahaha. One of the worst most corrupted goverments in history.
And all you pussies did was literally nothing. YOU VOTED FOR BUSH A 2ND TIME LOL.
Get the fuck out of here you idiot.
It seems you liked getting butt-fucked by your PIGS and government. Thats why nothing will really change in America. You buy the bullshit the government sells you and end up with cocks in your mouth. Something that has always been happening in your country. No surprise......
And really do you believe things can change with arguements?? Has anyhting ever changed in America by arguements?? hahahahahahahha.
FUCK OUT OF HERE. GO WATCH TV LIKE A GOOD AMERICAN.
A.C.A.B
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This shows why America is full of do nothing pussies. When the government pisses on you in Europe, people roam the streets. But in the US, where the government has basically screwed you over 10 fold, people don't do shit. Seriously, people should riot more. That's what a civilized country does.
No, it's what savages who can't win by argument and reason do. Americans are more civilized.
More proof of what a typical anti-American Euro-moron Muslim sympathizer you are.
you are a fuckin joke
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coming to a city near you soon
WHen is it coming? Can't wait. very exciting.
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actually history shows that peaceful protesting is more effective than looting and rioting... soooo
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Stupid fucking Greeks. They aren't made for city life. They still had their King Constantine this would have been taken care of by now.
You must be a retard. While you and your faggot-sheep citizents get raped by your own Goverment we have a voice here. Fuck King Constantine. If he was here shit would be more corrupted. We did the right thing to kick his ass out of here.
Talking about city life? We made the first cities. So shut your shit up.
Go shit your pants now and obey to the orders your bosses give you.
A.C.A.B
I'm 99% sure your American or Canadien from the stupid comment that you made.
Ασεμε ρε παιδι μου. Ξερω τι μιλάω. Αυτα τα μαλακιες που κανουν δεν είναι καλο για την Ελλaδα μας. Nα το ξερεις.
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Ναι ολοι αυτοι οι βανδαλισμοι μας εχουν σχηματισει κακη εικονα ομως ο αγωνας μας δεν θα περασει χωρις καποιες αλλαγες. Οπως βλεπεις στην ευρωπη ειδη εχουν γινει πορειες κτλπ και ο λογος ειναι επειδη εμεις τα αρχισαμε. Να ξυπναει λιγο ο κοσμος. Τεραστια ειναι η διαφθορα παγκοσμιως.
Και αφου εισαι Ελληνας τι μας αποκαλεις βλακες και ηλιθιους??? Ολοι ετσι ειμαστε νομιζεις??
Θα επρεπε να ντρεπεσε για την εικονα της χωρας αφου την κατεστρεψαν μερικοι και μονο.
Ολοι οι αλλοι αγωνιζονται και ας εκμεταλλευτικαν τον θανατο ενος παιδιου.
Τελος αν μπορεις εξηγησε μου το "They aren't made for city life" γιατι δεν το καταλαβα αυτο?
Τοσο και τοσα εχει προσφερει η χωρα μας στον κοσμο και λες οτι ειμαστε βλακες και ηλιθιοι?¨Ελεος
Αυτα.
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Ναι ολοι αυτοι οι βανδαλισμοι μας εχουν σχηματισει κακη εικονα ομως ο αγωνας μας δεν θα περασει χωρις καποιες αλλαγες. Οπως βλεπεις στην ευρωπη ειδη εχουν γινει πορειες κτλπ και ο λογος ειναι επειδη εμεις τα αρχισαμε. Να ξυπναει λιγο ο κοσμος. Τεραστια ειναι η διαφθορα παγκοσμιως.
Και αφου εισαι Ελληνας τι μας αποκαλεις βλακες και ηλιθιους??? Ολοι ετσι ειμαστε νομιζεις??
Θα επρεπε να ντρεπεσε για την εικονα της χωρας αφου την κατεστρεψαν μερικοι και μονο.
Ολοι οι αλλοι αγωνιζονται και ας εκμεταλλευτικαν τον θανατο ενος παιδιου.
Τελος αν μπορεις εξηγησε μου το "They aren't made for city life" γιατι δεν το καταλαβα αυτο?
Τοσο και τοσα εχει προσφερει η χωρα μας στον κοσμο και λες οτι ειμαστε βλακες και ηλιθιοι?¨Ελεος
Αυτα.
How do you type in Greek? I tried for hours to figure it out but my browser wouldn't recognize what I wrote in Word and I couldn't change the font in Firefox. The post I made was just cutting and pasting individual letters, which is why my response was so short. If I could have posted the whole comment you'd understand what I was trying to say.
First of all, I was joking around with the "stupid fucking Greeks". Most here on the forum know I am Greek and I am calling all of Greece a bunch of idiots with about as much sincerity as I'm calling my self an idiot. I'm not an idiot, and neither is most of Greece. These fucking hoodlums running around starting fires and destroying the stores of their fellow Greek should be kicked out of the country. If they went after the government buildings that's one thing but to start fires right next door to parks where children are playing is fucking ντροπής.
I am a libertarian politically and agree with most things anarchists preach. I am disgusted by the Greek government and want no part of the European Union. I know what a piece of shit every fucking βασιλιάς ever was. What I said a bout him was πλάκα.
My name is Eπαμηνωνδας Koσμας, my father is from outside Τρίπολη and my mother from outside Φλώρινα. I was born and raised in Toronto, but rest assured I was raised by Greeks. My parents come from χωριά. Most Greeks I know with a true sense of honor come from χωριά. The first Greek cities were relatively small places. The bigger the city gets with any people the worse the morality becomes. That's why those gang members can get away with what they are doing in the streets and that's why those cops can get away with it too. In a χωριό you are held accountable. These fucks starting the fires in the cities are probably the same fucks who started the wildfires last summer. They don't want to fix anything, they want chaos. The want what the
διάβολος wants. And I stand against them.
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Ναι ολοι αυτοι οι βανδαλισμοι μας εχουν σχηματισει κακη εικονα ομως ο αγωνας μας δεν θα περασει χωρις καποιες αλλαγες. Οπως βλεπεις στην ευρωπη ειδη εχουν γινει πορειες κτλπ και ο λογος ειναι επειδη εμεις τα αρχισαμε. Να ξυπναει λιγο ο κοσμος. Τεραστια ειναι η διαφθορα παγκοσμιως.
Και αφου εισαι Ελληνας τι μας αποκαλεις βλακες και ηλιθιους??? Ολοι ετσι ειμαστε νομιζεις??
Θα επρεπε να ντρεπεσε για την εικονα της χωρας αφου την κατεστρεψαν μερικοι και μονο.
Ολοι οι αλλοι αγωνιζονται και ας εκμεταλλευτικαν τον θανατο ενος παιδιου.
Τελος αν μπορεις εξηγησε μου το "They aren't made for city life" γιατι δεν το καταλαβα αυτο?
Τοσο και τοσα εχει προσφερει η χωρα μας στον κοσμο και λες οτι ειμαστε βλακες και ηλιθιοι?¨Ελεος
Αυτα.
How do you type in Greek? I tried for hours to figure it out but my browser wouldn't recognize what I wrote in Word and I couldn't change the font in Firefox. The post I made was just cutting and pasting individual letters, which is why my response was so short. If I could have posted the whole comment you'd understand what I was trying to say.
First of all, I was joking around with the "stupid fucking Greeks". Most here on the forum know I am Greek and I am calling all of Greece a bunch of idiots with about as much sincerity as I'm calling my self an idiot. I'm not an idiot, and neither is most of Greece. These fucking hoodlums running around starting fires and destroying the stores of their fellow Greek should be kicked out of the country. If they went after the government buildings that's one thing but to start fires right next door to parks where children are playing is fucking ντροπής.
I am a libertarian politically and agree with most things anarchists preach. I am disgusted by the Greek government and want no part of the European Union. I know what a piece of shit every fucking βασιλιάς ever was. What I said a bout him was πλάκα.
My name is Eπαμηνωνδας Koσμας, my father is from outside Τρίπολη and my mother from outside Φλώρινα. I was born and raised in Toronto, but rest assured I was raised by Greeks. My parents come from χωριά. Most Greeks I know with a true sense of honor come from χωριά. The first Greek cities were relatively small places. The bigger the city gets with any people the worse the morality becomes. That's why those gang members can get away with what they are doing in the streets and that's why those cops can get away with it too. In a χωριό you are held accountable. These fucks starting the fires in the cities are probably the same fucks who started the wildfires last summer. They don't want to fix anything, they want chaos. The want what the
διάβολος wants. And I stand against them.
Με ctrl + shift γραφεις στα Ελληνικα αλλα νομιζω οτι πρεπει να κανεις εγκατασταση την Ελληνικη γλωσσα στο pc σου.
1) Δεν καταλαβα οτι ειχες απαντησει ειρωνικα στο πρωτο σου ποστ. Σαν θερμοαιμος λαος που ειμαστε το πηρα στραβα και σου απατνησα απευθινομενος σε Αμερικανο και οχι σε Ελληνα. Αν ηξερα οτι εισουν Ελληνας θα μελεταγα πιο πολυ την απαντηση σου(Λεγοντας αυτο διοτι ο Αμερικανος δεν γνωριζει καλα την ιστορια μας και ουτε τι συμβαινει εδω περα διοτα τα ΜΜΕ προβαλλουν οτι γουσταρουν και κανουν προπαγανδα). Συγνωμη για τα μπινελικια.
2) Συμφωνω απολυτα μαζι σου γιατι τους ξεροκεφαλους μαλακες που κυριολεκτικα διελυσαν την Ελλαδα μας. Οπως ειχα προαναφερει βρηκαν την ευκαιρια να τα σπασουν και να προκαλεσουν το χαος με τον θανατο τυο δεκαπενταχρονου(Βεβαια εγω πιστευω πως πισω απ'ολα αυτα κρυβονται και ευνοουνται αρκετοι ανθρωποι, και ολο αυτο δεν ηταν τυχαιο....) και σαν καλα προβατα ακολουθησαν και αλλοι τοσοι κυριως πλουσιοπαιδα απο Β.Π που αρχισαν να σπανε οτι τους κατεβει ! Αυτοι που ξεκινισαν τα επεισοδια τωρα καθονται σπιτακι τους και απολαμβανουν το χαος που προκαλεσαν. Την εκαναν την δουλεια τους...
3) Θα ηθελα να τονισω πως αναρχικοι επεισοδια δεν προκαλεσαν. Τα ΜΜΕ λενε οτι τους κατεβει οποτε τους κατεβει. Στην ιδεολογια του αναρχικου δεν υπαρχει βια. Αυτοι που προκαλεσαν ζημιες ηταν οι Αντι-εξουσιαστες και τα προβατακια τους.
4) Και βεβαια ντρεπομαι σαν Ελληνας για τις ηλιθιοτητες που καναν μερικοι και πιστευω πως η αστυνομια μας απλα ΔΕΝ υπαρχει! Χωρις πλακα τωρα αμα θελαμε αυτους τους κουκουλοφλωρους θα τους ειχαμε στειλει απο την πρωτη μερα αλλα οπως βλεπεις "καποιοι" δεν το θελουν αυτο. Τοσο διεφθαρμενα ειναι τα πραγματα εδω πλεον.
Και αν αλλαξει η κυβερνηση και βγει το ΠΑΣΟΚ η κανενα αλλο κομμα (ΠΑΣΟΚ δλδ γιατι οι αλλοι τρωνε τα @@) τα ιδια σκατα θα αντιμετωπισουμε.
5) Για το μονο πραγμα που ειμαι περηφανος αυτην την στιγμη ειναι για τους πραγματικα αγωνιστες με επιχειρηματα που καθημερινα πηγαινουν στις καθηστικες διαδηλωσεις και δεν πανε πισω. Αυτη η ομαδα ανθρωπων αξισει τον σεβασμο.
6) Κ Δ ονομαζομαι, ο πατερας μου ειναι Αθηναιος με ριζες του παππου απο την Μανη ο οποιος και αυτος στην Αθηνα μεγαλωσε. Η μητερα μου ειναι απο την Ρωσια. Εχω ζησει 5 χρονια Αμερικη, 11 χρονια Ελλαδα, και 3 χρονια Βελγιο. Σου μιλαω σαν Αθηναιος διοτι γενικα η οικογενεια μου και οι συγγενεις μου δεν εχουν επαφες με τα χωρια τους γιατι ειναι 2 γενιες στην Αθηνα. Γνωριζω αρκετους απο τους ταραξιες και σε διαβεβαιωνω οτι το 95% ειναι απο επαρχια (χωρις να θελω να προσβαλλω κανεναν). Αθηναιος δεν θα το εκανε αυτο στην πολη του.
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This shows why America is full of do nothing pussies. When the government pisses on you in Europe, people roam the streets. But in the US, where the government has basically screwed you over 10 fold, people don't do shit. Seriously, people should riot more. That's what a civilized country does.
You live in Canada. ZYou all are known for being pussies, that's your intl. reputation.
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smh @ bananas forced to leave home because of foreclosure
nicca sukkin dickk to get some prescription medication
your country lost
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What is all this nationalist oneupmanship bullshit? The british people have been raped by the banks, the american people have been raped by the banks and as for canada, the queen proved that she is actually the ruler of owner when harper approached her representative seeking permission to suspend parliament to prevent him from being toppled.
What I find amusing is the arrogance and delusional sense of understanding so many people had when the imf riot blueprint was shown the light of day, like they love the people of the west or something and so would only target poor countries.
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smh @ bananas forced to leave home because of foreclosure
nicca sukkin dickk to get some prescription medication
your country lost
lol, get mad like i drew a cartoon of the prophet.