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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: THETRUTHUG on January 09, 2009, 05:34:55 PM
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People say its the most powerful Book
some say its the most read book of our time, translated in to all languages
Muslims belive that its the one God(allah) who directly talks to the mankind and the there´s no word changed since 1400 years...
What do the atheists think? That mohamed wrote it? ???
let me know
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why make a topic bout this ???
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Bin Laden
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a pig.
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Islamic belief is that it is God's words sent through Gabriel to Muhammad in revelations.
After all the revelations, it was Ali (4th Caliph according to Sunnis; 1st Imam according to Shias) who compiled all the revelations in the order its in.
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why make a topic bout this ???
b/c he is curious, dip shit.
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So who wrote the Quran?
Some filthy dune coon, who gives a fuck who?
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^white boy, you're fuckin corny! lol
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everytime i think about someone claiming to be a prophet and writing up some holy scripture, i'm reminded of that south park episode about mormonism.
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No one wrote the Quran, the Quran was handed over to the prophet from god directly. The Quran, has NEVER been changed in anyway.
http://www.quran.org.uk/articles/ieb_quran_who.htm
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LOL do u honestly think that some1 on dubcc will know who wrote the quran?? ??? If you think about it, none of us REALLY know.. we all have our theories, our beliefs but no1 REALLY knows.. people always go through life either believing in something just to believe, have faith in something because they fear that there is a higher power watching them getting ready to place a check mark right in a box that says "hell" or not believing something because they have seen so much fucked up shit and religion does not seem logical to them (blind faith), some dont give a shit, some search for an answer their whole life.. etc etc. The point is that everyone has there own theory about this kinda stuff but NO1 really knows the answer.. I dont think ANYONE on dubcc (or the rest of the world for that matter) knows who wrote the quran lol.. how the hell would u know if some1 didnt change the quran thousands of years ago??^ u dont.. no1 knows.. we must live the rest of our lives curious and believing in something that makes us comfortable and makes the most sense to us.. whatever religion that may be.
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A muslim once told me:
'If you want to know about Islam, read about the life of Muhammad and his intentions in his actions, that is Islam, not the Koran, not Muslims'.
I always thought that made sense. Same with Jesus and Christianity, if you want to know about Christianity read on the life of Jesus and what the dude did and intended, get the feel for it, what the prophets intended is important and remember they were all only human and even angels are only angels everybody fucks out and is imperfect. Forget about the technicalities of the writings, once you see with your Mind's Eye you will understand the true intention behind religion thats beneath the surface below all the particularities...
But there are those that even after seeing this glimmer of truth below the surface of religion will put themself above religion and call themselves 'Illuminati'. However, Illuminati ain't about microchips and power play structures, thats the dress up make believe J Edgar Hoover Illuminati, the real Illuminati is beings that use their Mind's Eye.
You are the question and the answer. If you keep it real, then you descend from the long ancestral lineage of the realest and illest peoples who ever walked the Earth and wrote all the holy words of wisdom.
Who wrote the script of Egypt? Who made the Holy Bible?
or Koran how long ago who made the Holy Title?
of I Self Lord And Master, who control the vital
parts of your heart, who wrote the wise recitals?
Ruler Zig-Zag-Zig Allah, Arm-Leg-Leg-Arm-Head
Still puzzled like the jigsaw....
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^^Well said.
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I wrote it.
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A muslim once told me:
'If you want to know about Islam, read about the life of Muhammad and his intentions in his actions, that is Islam, not the Koran, not Muslims'.
I always thought that made sense. Same with Jesus and Christianity, if you want to know about Christianity read on the life of Jesus and what the dude did and intended, get the feel for it, what the prophets intended is important and remember they were all only human and even angels are only angels everybody fucks out and is imperfect. Forget about the technicalities of the writings, once you see with your Mind's Eye you will understand the true intention behind religion thats beneath the surface below all the particularities...
But there are those that even after seeing this glimmer of truth below the surface of religion will put themself above religion and call themselves 'Illuminati'. However, Illuminati ain't about microchips and power play structures, thats the dress up make believe J Edgar Hoover Illuminati, the real Illuminati is beings that use their Mind's Eye.
You are the question and the answer. If you keep it real, then you descend from the long ancestral lineage of the realest and illest peoples who ever walked the Earth and wrote all the holy words of wisdom.
Who wrote the script of Egypt? Who made the Holy Bible?
or Koran how long ago who made the Holy Title?
of I Self Lord And Master, who control the vital
parts of your heart, who wrote the wise recitals?
Ruler Zig-Zag-Zig Allah, Arm-Leg-Leg-Arm-Head
Still puzzled like the jigsaw....
great post
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muslims know that the quran is still the same because
first, allah promised it in the quran that he will take care that it will be the last testament till the end of time and noone will change it so ever
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they found 2 old quran. One u can see in turkey the other i think in tadschikistan
the one which is in turkey is about 60 years after mohammed died, so its like 1340 years old AND its the same, which we muslims got nowadays, with every word
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Billy Mays did.
He died in 640 and reincarnated in 1958 to bring us a shitload of "Only Seen On TV" products. He's here to save us from the idolatry of religions.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a7/Billy_mays.PNG/225px-Billy_mays.PNG)
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'If you want to know about Islam, read about the life of Muhammad and his intentions in his actions, that is Islam, not the Koran, not Muslims'.
Well, here's the problem: Muhammad was a violent bastard, a warlord who liked little girls and who had a habit of killing anyone who didn't respect his divine inspiration. Of all the men who claimed to be prophets, he might have been the most violent and downright insane. If one bases their understanding of Islam upon the life of Muhammad and his intentions, then, well, guess what? They'd become jihadists. And many do.
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LOL do u honestly think that some1 on dubcc will know who wrote the quran?? ??? If you think about it, none of us REALLY know.. we all have our theories, our beliefs but no1 REALLY knows.. people always go through life either believing in something just to believe, have faith in something because they fear that there is a higher power watching them getting ready to place a check mark right in a box that says "hell" or not believing something because they have seen so much fucked up shit and religion does not seem logical to them (blind faith), some dont give a shit, some search for an answer their whole life.. etc etc. The point is that everyone has there own theory about this kinda stuff but NO1 really knows the answer.. I dont think ANYONE on dubcc (or the rest of the world for that matter) knows who wrote the quran lol.. how the hell would u know if some1 didnt change the quran thousands of years ago??^ u dont.. no1 knows.. we must live the rest of our lives curious and believing in something that makes us comfortable and makes the most sense to us.. whatever religion that may be.
Through narrations we determine how the Quran came to be, with more than one source claiming the same information.
As for changing it, the Arabic in the Quran is really complex with one word having more than one meaning. Due to that complexity, it becomes hard to change it. Researchers who've tried to find a difference in the original form and its current form have also been unsuccessful.
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Youre all idiots.
Tech wrote the quran, because he has a fetish for women in Burqas.
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muslims know that the quran is still the same because
first, allah promised it in the quran that he will take care that it will be the last testament till the end of time and noone will change it so ever
AND
they found 2 old quran. One u can see in turkey the other i think in tadschikistan
the one which is in turkey is about 60 years after mohammed died, so its like 1340 years old AND its the same, which we muslims got nowadays, with every word
(http://www.nadmika.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/jerk-off-paris-1.jpg)
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Youre all idiots.
no,YOU are the biggest one
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Youre all idiots.
no,YOU are the biggest one
Get off my balls Dinamo boy.
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Youre all idiots.
no,YOU are the biggest one
Get off my balls Dinamo boy.
don't cry :'(
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'If you want to know about Islam, read about the life of Muhammad and his intentions in his actions, that is Islam, not the Koran, not Muslims'.
Well, here's the problem: Muhammad was a violent bastard, a warlord who liked little girls and who had a habit of killing anyone who didn't respect his divine inspiration. Of all the men who claimed to be prophets, he might have been the most violent and downright insane. If one bases their understanding of Islam upon the life of Muhammad and his intentions, then, well, guess what? They'd become jihadists. And many do.
My son, there is always the problem of applying divine inspiration to life...You cannot write a program for human living as you would write parameters for a computer program.
I didn't know the Prophet Muhammad. But the laws he laid down remind me of Christ, Buddha...similar in the vein of, and more stricter and harsher in some respects I know.
Thing is im not a Muslim. I study most religions and all ideas thru life. I see the similarities because I recognise the grains of truth.
You won't last with religion it deals with division. Allah sees all.
-'Allah Sees All', PR Terrorist, Killarmy.
But at the same time, the reason there are good Muslims, good Christians and good Jews, etc is because; although they may call themselves a Christian or a Muslim or whaterver whatever:
they still actually listen to others, SEE and recognise the grains of truth outside their own little social and religious bubble.
Note that Allah, Yahweh, God 'sees', seeing is understanding. Understanding is the enemy of ignorance. Light=Understanding. Darkness=ignorance.
http://www.youtube.com/v/lrC7KRDy3w8&hl=en&fs=1
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I didn't know the Prophet Muhammad. But the laws he laid down remind me of Christ, Buddha...similar in the vein of, and more stricter and harsher in some respects I know.
Thing is im not a Muslim. I study most religions and all ideas thru life. I see the similarities because I recognise the grains of truth.
If Muhammad's laws remind you of those of Christ, or even of Buddha (your prophet), you don't know those religions very well. Muhammad laid down laws governing how to pillage, how to treat captured women, and how to treat unbelievers (basically, like shit). I'm not a Buddhist myself, but you're insulting your own religion (if you even call it that) if you find any parallels between that and Islam.
Oh, yeah, and quoting some illiterate rapper as an argument does not lend much to your credibility.
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Certain theological and philosophical aspects of Islam remind me of other religions. In such a respect faiths have many core commonalities.
However you may simply be too dumb to understand so why bother to spell it out for you.
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'If you want to know about Islam, read about the life of Muhammad and his intentions in his actions, that is Islam, not the Koran, not Muslims'.
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Well, here's the problem: Muhammad was a violent bastard, a warlord who liked little girls and who had a habit of killing anyone who didn't respect his divine inspiration. Of all the men who claimed to be prophets, he might have been the most violent and downright insane. If one bases their understanding of Islam upon the life of Muhammad and his intentions, then, well, guess what? They'd become jihadists. And many do.
dude, ur really off.... Im Not Sure whats ur source... but the Prophet, was not as how u say... and violence unfortunately is part of war.... he was the general/leader of an army... and Ur wrong to his intentions of violence... cuase u obviously didnt consider the quote u what repylying to... the only reason for him .. or his army... to be violent.. was for self preservation and protection of rights.... he did not kill or order anyone killed with out reason or means justifed outside the rules of engagment... Moses would have jews kill if they worked on sabeth.... sundays..... just to make a point..... soo...yeah..... and for ur little girls point... ur totally incorrect... his wife was actually Older then him... U should honestly get ur propoganda correct to a reasonable level before talkin smack... this is the problem with humanity... their is no tolorence ...lots of ego and pride... and virtually no respect for thinks one doest not understand of the bat... so its dismissed totally... and Obama is President ... so ur White Pride might need to simmer down a bit... yet its totally ok to have... cuase im not a hipocrite... but dont let ur self ideas inject hatred on to others.... Ur defination of a jahdist is a terrorist.... but the tru defination is the fight int he cause of god... alll ur see and read is what ur "white pride" followers aka the western media wahts to project bout muslims.. but the fact it... its our own fault to let our fellow humans go astray as to no even recognize what injustice is.... ur speakin on things u dont understand is injustice.... u disappoint me.