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Title: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: woof on April 29, 2009, 05:32:29 PM
1st release is Dr Dre Chronic revised, enhanced with dvd video and at least 2 new songs

Interview with owner of Death Row Records (Lara Lavi) 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEb7P_X5BcY)

Interview with owner of Death Row (Lara Lavi) 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTq7Lx2vI3M)
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: DTG Entertainment on April 29, 2009, 05:39:46 PM
1st release is Dr Dre Chronic revised, enhanced with dvd video and at least 2 new songs

Interview with owner of Death Row Records (Lara Lavi) 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEb7P_X5BcY)

Interview with owner of Death Row (Lara Lavi) 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTq7Lx2vI3M)

Good shit.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 05:50:57 PM
Can't wait to get the new version of the "Chronic," that they're dropping.  And if the June release date sticks, they'll apparently be starting to release their projects a lot sooner than some expected.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: -{Angel Of Death}- on April 29, 2009, 05:56:33 PM
This is chilling, Finally a person who understands tupacs music and has nothing but goos intentions and wants to please the fans
If she handles his music like she says, there is no doubt in my mind i will do my part in buying
multiple albums to support it and show afieni what shes been doing wrong
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 05:57:51 PM
This is chilling, Finally a person who understands tupacs music and has nothing but goos intentions and wants to please the fans
If she handles his music like she says, there is no doubt in my mind i will do my part in buying
multiple albums to support it and show afieni what shes been doing wrong

Lol...Yeah. Even the interviewer, who I've never heard of before, seemed to have a good understanding of what fans want from a Tupac album.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: DTG Entertainment on April 29, 2009, 05:58:33 PM
This is chilling, Finally a person who understands tupacs music and has nothing but goos intentions and wants to please the fans
If she handles his music like she says, there is no doubt in my mind i will do my part in buying
multiple albums to support it and show afieni what shes been doing wrong

Lol...Yeah. Even the interviewer, who I've never heard of before, seemed to have a good understanding of what fans want from a Tupac album.

He works on ThugLifeArmy.com - Anton is a true 2Pac fan and a bit of a Death Row loyalist. He picked apart 2Pac Assassination.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 05:59:53 PM
This is chilling, Finally a person who understands tupacs music and has nothing but goos intentions and wants to please the fans
If she handles his music like she says, there is no doubt in my mind i will do my part in buying
multiple albums to support it and show afieni what shes been doing wrong

Lol...Yeah. Even the interviewer, who I've never heard of before, seemed to have a good understanding of what fans want from a Tupac album.

He works on ThugLifeArmy.com - Anton is a true 2Pac fan and a bit of a Death Row loyalist. He picked apart 2Pac Assassination.

Ahh.  That explains it.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: Mygla on April 29, 2009, 06:01:02 PM
The unreleased Dre tracks... now that's what I really wanna hear, so this is great news :)

*edit*

lmao

Lara Lavi: I think it's aproximatel 10.000 masters...
Interview: *ejaculates a little in his pants*
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac son
Post by: snoop on April 29, 2009, 06:01:37 PM
1st release is Dr Dre Chronic revised, enhanced with dvd video and at least 2 new songs

Interview with owner of Death Row Records (Lara Lavi) 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEb7P_X5BcY)

Interview with owner of Death Row (Lara Lavi) 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTq7Lx2vI3M)

hell yeah!  8)
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 06:03:23 PM
It's good to hear that apparently there's quite a bit of unreleased Dogg Pound too.  You can't hardly go wrong with old shcool Death Row Dogg Pound.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 29, 2009, 06:04:24 PM
This is chilling, Finally a person who understands tupacs music and has nothing but goos intentions and wants to please the fans
If she handles his music like she says, there is no doubt in my mind i will do my part in buying
multiple albums to support it and show afieni what shes been doing wrong

Lol...Yeah. Even the interviewer, who I've never heard of before, seemed to have a good understanding of what fans want from a Tupac album.

He works on ThugLifeArmy.com - Anton is a true 2Pac fan and a bit of a Death Row loyalist. He picked apart 2Pac Assassination.

I remember that website!
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 29, 2009, 06:05:49 PM
It's good to hear that apparently there's quite a bit of unreleased Dogg Pound too.  You can't hardly go wrong with old shcool Death Row Dogg Pound.

this is true
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: DTG Entertainment on April 29, 2009, 06:07:16 PM
This is chilling, Finally a person who understands tupacs music and has nothing but goos intentions and wants to please the fans
If she handles his music like she says, there is no doubt in my mind i will do my part in buying
multiple albums to support it and show afieni what shes been doing wrong

Lol...Yeah. Even the interviewer, who I've never heard of before, seemed to have a good understanding of what fans want from a Tupac album.

He works on ThugLifeArmy.com - Anton is a true 2Pac fan and a bit of a Death Row loyalist. He picked apart 2Pac Assassination.

I remember that website!

It is a dope site. One of the most visited 2Pac sites that didn't bootleg. I got to give my props to Robert and Anton on that.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: slickrik2002 on April 29, 2009, 06:26:39 PM
after listening to this interview, it definitely sounds like this Lara Lavi bitch knows what she's talking about and she's passionate about putting out the music the right way.  but the other part of me is thinkin fuck her just for the hell of it and my loyalty to the original deathrow

with that being said, i doubt i'll buy any of their releases and download everything! 
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: CaughtUp on April 29, 2009, 06:27:06 PM
did she say the 'toxic' record?? detox foo!
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 29, 2009, 06:27:43 PM
after listening to this interview, it definitely sounds like this Lara Lavi bitch knows what she's talking about and she's passionate about putting out the music the right way.  but the other part of me is thinkin fuck her just for the hell of it and my loyalty to the original deathrow

with that being said, i doubt i'll buy any of their releases and download everything! 

THE ORIGINAL DEATH ROW ARE THE ONES WHO SLEPT ON THIS MATERIAL THE LAST 12 YEARS WHILE THEIR LABEL WAS DEAD



*except for releasing the yearly "best of" or "greatest hits" compilations
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: Jaydc555 on April 29, 2009, 06:52:32 PM
Can someone put up a link I can't see this from my phone
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac son
Post by: Sickaluffa on April 29, 2009, 06:53:37 PM
shit sounds dope cant wait :o
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 07:00:57 PM
AT LEAST there is some new songs on this edition of The Chronic otherwise I would have been so disappointed. I might cop just because my copy of The Chronic is scratched to shit.

Hope they add the new songs at the end as bonuses though, I don't want them to break up the natural flow of the original album.
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Post by: Action! on April 29, 2009, 07:18:09 PM
It's a business and she knows what's up.  I hope she stays true to her word and releases the majority of it - remastered but not altered from it's original creation. 
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac son
Post by: woof on April 29, 2009, 07:24:56 PM
hope she does the same with doggystyle and add next episode and the leftover title track doggystyle with george clinton, the funkadelic sample was off the hook on it
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: F-cisco on April 29, 2009, 07:37:51 PM
The two new songs on the Chronic might be "Ho Hopper" and "Mr. Officer" . This woman sounds very articulate and knowledgeable, no wonder why she hired the former DR engineers. She held her own with the interviewer. The 2pac thing is a mess. However you want to look it; missing masters, needing Afenis approval etc.. Doubt another 2pac album see the light of day under the Deathrow/Wideawake umbrella.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: Efrain on April 29, 2009, 07:39:20 PM
Honestly, I don't expect much from the Chronic. I get it that they're rebooting the catalog so it's the obvious choice but those pickings are going to be slim. Dre either 1) trashes his unreleased stuff right then and there, 2) gives it away to other people to use or 3) it gets tangled in some legal problem and can't be released. Not only that But back in the Chronic days I get the impression Dre was running the studio and Suge the office. I don't think Suge was bothered with cataloging the recordings and keeping track of everything on the music end at that point, deathrow wasn't even legitimate then... it seems like that didn't happen until they started recording DPG and Snoop.  

I bet it will only be two songs like she said, probably the two Suge was going to put on the og Chronic 2000, Hoe hopper and Rat Tat Tat alt version. Not complaining I just don't expect much.

Now Doggystyle, yeaaah that's going to be a fucking goldmine. From those pdf's Lora could put out a fucking Doggystyle pt.2 and it might even be just as good.  

 
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Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on April 29, 2009, 07:45:34 PM
Someone wake me up from this wet dream, im soaked the fuck up... Maybe we'll hear an unreleased Dr. Dre/Snoop Doggy Dogg album after Detox drops... it is possible now and Dre wont have to back up his DeathRow shit with his newer shit.... just a thought
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Post by: Action! on April 29, 2009, 08:13:31 PM
Email them with your concerns and encourage them not to alter the original product created by the artists and the producers:  info@wideawakehc.com

I don't know if it'll do much but what's the worst that'll happen.

Make sure your grammar and spelling is correct so they take it serious.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 29, 2009, 08:16:34 PM
Honestly, I don't expect much from the Chronic. I get it that they're rebooting the catalog so it's the obvious choice but those pickings are going to be slim. Dre either 1) trashes his unreleased stuff right then and there, 2) gives it away to other people to use or 3) it gets tangled in some legal problem and can't be released. Not only that But back in the Chronic days I get the impression Dre was running the studio and Suge the office. I don't think Suge was bothered with cataloging the recordings and keeping track of everything on the music end at that point, deathrow wasn't even legitimate then... it seems like that didn't happen until they started recording DPG and Snoop.  

I bet it will only be two songs like she said, probably the two Suge was going to put on the og Chronic 2000, Hoe hopper and Rat Tat Tat alt version. Not complaining I just don't expect much.

Now Doggystyle, yeaaah that's going to be a fucking goldmine. From those pdf's Lora could put out a fucking Doggystyle pt.2 and it might even be just as good.  

 


she said "a hand full" of Dre songs

but lots of 2pac/DPG/Snoop
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Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:27:23 PM
Now Doggystyle, yeaaah that's going to be a fucking goldmine. From those pdf's Lora could put out a fucking Doggystyle pt.2 and it might even be just as good.  

Yeah, I hope they do stuff like that and get creative. With a little imagination they have the ability to put out some sick projects.
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:33:56 PM
Now Doggystyle, yeaaah that's going to be a fucking goldmine. From those pdf's Lora could put out a fucking Doggystyle pt.2 and it might even be just as good.  

Yeah, I hope they do stuff like that and get creative. With a little imagination they have the ability to put out some sick projects.

 Yeah.  Still waiting on that website though.  I can't believe that no interviewer has asked her about that yet.  It's a simple question.  "When will the website be up?"  It shouldn't be difficult.  Actually, I thought that overall the interviewer did very well, but still....website....ask damn it.
 I rechecked that trysomethingnew.tv website and so far there's no update.  Still haven't received any e-mails either.  You'd think if they were thinking about putting out this Chronic cd next month, they would start notifying people who signed up for the newsletter.  Ah well.  The website is really my only gripe.  Other than that, I think it seems like they are handling things pretty well so far.
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Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:41:45 PM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)
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Post by: mikeOG on April 29, 2009, 08:42:02 PM
looks promising, I wonder if they got that LBC crew album? what about the Sam Sneed album?
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Post by: mikeOG on April 29, 2009, 08:43:34 PM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I thought she was reffering to the quality of the album as in how clean and crisp All Eyez ON Me sounded compared to 7 day Theory
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:45:00 PM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I think she just meant that the production on "All Eyez on Me" sounded a bit more polished than on "7 Day Theory."  At least, I think that's what she meant.  If I interpreted what she said correctly, I kind of agree with her on that.  "7 Day Theory" is an excellent album, but it did have more or a raw sound, imo.
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Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 08:48:16 PM
She better get the ball rolling on these projects though, these FTP-like companies are winning the race right now. I think they need to get more connected to the net cause other than the One Nation project they have no idea what is going on. I'd be lying if I said I don't appreciate the leaks. However, they need to drop these projects mixed / mastered in the form they are meant to be heard before they get spoiled.
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Post by: mikeOG on April 29, 2009, 08:55:14 PM
so what i thought she meant was if Pacs mom likes the album they make (13 tracks set to release in 2010) she might give the go ahead to release other albums.
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 08:56:57 PM
 Those tracks that she talked about being left unreleased for a reason (not all of it was hunkydory-or whatever lol), that's a perfect example of stuff that would be great for  website content (assuming their still making one **cough**cough**) If there are tracks that aren't particularly good (or at least not good enough to make money off of), they should put them up for free download (or at least, cheap download).  While, I probably wouldn't pay cd price for a complete album of unknowns that aren't all that great, I probably would go to the website and download them.  It would kind of be cool, from an historical perspective if nothing else (might shed some light as to what lesser-known acts were signed to the label at various points in its history).
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Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 09:01:59 PM
Those tracks that she talked about being left unreleased for a reason (not all of it was hunkydory-or whatever lol), that's a perfect example of stuff that would be great for  website content (assuming their still making one **cough**cough**) If there are tracks that aren't particularly good (or at least not good enough to make money off of), they should put them up for free download (or at least, cheap download).  While, I probably wouldn't pay cd price for a complete album of unknowns that aren't all that great, I probably would go to the website and download them.  It would kind of be cool, from an historical perspective if nothing else (might shed some light as to what lesser-known acts were signed to the label at various points in its history).

Yeah she is definitely under-estimating the fan's interested in the non-Dre/Snoop/Pac artists.

I guess the main thing is fans have to hit them up by e-mail and drop their opinions. However, she said they respond to every e-mail. That's not true, I've sent them so many e-mails and they never got back to me once. Makes me not even want to hit them up again, LOL.
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Post by: Action! on April 29, 2009, 09:02:40 PM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I think she just meant that the production on "All Eyez on Me" sounded a bit more polished than on "7 Day Theory."  At least, I think that's what she meant.  If I interpreted what she said correctly, I kind of agree with her on that.  "7 Day Theory" is an excellent album, but it did have more or a raw sound, imo.

My only problem with her argument concerning mastering is that the polish sound is necessary better.  It's supposed to sound raw for a reason unless it was poorly executed during mastering.  Not everything is meant to be polished.
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Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 09:09:11 PM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I think she just meant that the production on "All Eyez on Me" sounded a bit more polished than on "7 Day Theory."  At least, I think that's what she meant.  If I interpreted what she said correctly, I kind of agree with her on that.  "7 Day Theory" is an excellent album, but it did have more or a raw sound, imo.

My only problem with her argument concerning mastering is that the polish sound is necessary better.  It's supposed to sound raw for a reason unless it was poorly executed during mastering.  Not everything is meant to be polished.

That's a good point... I can point out non-2 Pac releases.

People always say acts like Wu-Tang need to remaster their classic albums like "36 Chambers", well to be honest, no that wouldn't sound right. An album like that is supposed to be raw. Even the Biggie re-release of "Ready To Die". I thought there was something lost when they remastered it. Some of that 90s Hip Hop sounds "better" in the old format, more in the cassette form. Again, that's personal opinion though. I have to admit though, I really did like some of those remasters such as "Dogg Food".

Remastering is really to be considered on an album-to-album basis instead of a must do for EVERY project.
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Post by: Jaydc555 on April 29, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
I think westcoast hip hop benefits from the extra polish where as east coast is that more grimey raw sound and doesn't need to be polished because it sounds better like that
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 29, 2009, 09:15:55 PM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I think she just meant that the production on "All Eyez on Me" sounded a bit more polished than on "7 Day Theory."  At least, I think that's what she meant.  If I interpreted what she said correctly, I kind of agree with her on that.  "7 Day Theory" is an excellent album, but it did have more or a raw sound, imo.

My only problem with her argument concerning mastering is that the polish sound is necessary better.  It's supposed to sound raw for a reason unless it was poorly executed during mastering.  Not everything is meant to be polished.

That's a good point... I can point out non-2 Pac releases.

People always say acts like Wu-Tang need to remaster their classic albums like "36 Chambers", well to be honest, no that wouldn't sound right. An album like that is supposed to be raw. Even the Biggie re-release of "Ready To Die". I thought there was something lost when they remastered it. Some of that 90s Hip Hop sounds "better" in the old format, more in the cassette form. Again, that's personal opinion though.

I have to admit though, I really did like some of those remasters such as "Dogg Food".

Yeah.  I would agree with that.  Some of those tracks probably weren't meant to have a polished sound. Particularly tracks on Makaveli, I would think, since the material has sort of a raw feel to it, anyway.  I still think that's what she meant though, by comparing "All Eyez on Me" with "7 Day Theory."   And in that respect, I do agree with her.  Whether the raw sound on Makaveli was intentional or not, I do think it's there much more so than on "All Eyez on Me."  But as you said, Effex, it's all opinion anyway.  I do think there are probably tracks in Death Row's back catalogue (not necessarily 2pac) that could probably stand some remastering.  But I definately I agree with you and Action that some tracks are meant to sound more raw.
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Post by: EFFeX on April 29, 2009, 09:20:54 PM
I think westcoast hip hop benefits from the extra polish where as east coast is that more grimey raw sound and doesn't need to be polished because it sounds better like that

Another great point, some of that West Coast music is so funky with so much detail that extra mastering really brings out the best of it.

You think of albums like "Illmatic", "The Infamous", "Ready To Die", "36 Chambers", etc from the East Coast and they are almost famous for their gritty sound.
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Post by: Jaydc555 on April 29, 2009, 09:31:38 PM
Exactly.if I'm listening to all eyez on me its going to sound best on CD in some great headphones.but 36 chambers I can listen to on cassette on some ear buds and its still amazing
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Post by: Jimmy H. on April 29, 2009, 10:19:03 PM
after listening to this interview, it definitely sounds like this Lara Lavi bitch knows what she's talking about and she's passionate about putting out the music the right way.  but the other part of me is thinkin fuck her just for the hell of it and my loyalty to the original deathrow

with that being said, i doubt i'll buy any of their releases and download everything! 
Why? Loyalty to what "original Death Row"? Did you stop buying Death Row albums when Dre gave up his co-ownership of the company? That was technically the "original" Death Row!

I'd rather put money behind the kind of projects I enjoy than bootleg/download them and bitch about why we only get crappy releases in hip-hop.
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Post by: Jaydc555 on April 29, 2009, 10:19:58 PM
Ill be supporting all their releases if they do it right.
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Post by: Jimmy H. on April 29, 2009, 10:39:02 PM
Ill be supporting all their releases if they do it right.
That's what I'm saying. I just don't get dude saying he's loyal to the original Death Row yet he won't support an album where they are talking about getting the paper work right and paying the original artists who worked on the projects.
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Post by: Jaydc555 on April 29, 2009, 10:45:07 PM
Fact
 is if suge was in control still we would never see any of these releases.If some other company would have gotten the deal we would not see this.We should all be very thankful at who bought the label.As long as they follow through on their word that is.I've never been this excited before about death row.As should anyone who claims to be a death row fan.They won't do it if nobody supports the releases so shake your head if you don't plan on showing support this is what everyone always wanted
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Post by: Blasphemy on April 29, 2009, 11:26:20 PM
after listening to this interview, it definitely sounds like this Lara Lavi bitch knows what she's talking about and she's passionate about putting out the music the right way.  but the other part of me is thinkin fuck her just for the hell of it and my loyalty to the original deathrow

with that being said, i doubt i'll buy any of their releases and download everything! 

She ain't no bitch, SHE IS THE FUCKING QUEEN!!! lol Finally the original G-Funk tunes will be released!!! Can't wait!!1 Glad we finally got someone who knows how to handle the Makaveli stuff.I'm hoping she releases all the OGs in a collectors set. I'd buy that shit lol so damn hard to find all his true OGs, faggots have to remix em and call em OGs.So much distortion.
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Post by: Dre-Day on April 30, 2009, 01:53:14 AM
cool i'll probably buy that Chronic release  8)

i like the fact that the money is not going to suge knight
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Post by: 2euce 7even on April 30, 2009, 04:28:39 AM
dats all cool and dope but...
even if there were no pac/dre/snoop/dpg material left im still interested in things like: redrum,bloody mary,oftb,murder IV hire,swoop g,sam sneed,j-flexx,young soldierz,paradise,b-rezell,k-solo,jewell,michelīle,6 feet deep,BGOTI,guess,mc hammer,mark morrison,rhythm & knowledge,cpo the boss hogg,lbc crew,prince ital joe,etc.
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Post by: Matty on April 30, 2009, 05:06:23 AM
sounds good. that rereleased chronic album probably won't tie in with the 'toxic' lp in any way though 8)

they need to get at quik to work on some more unreleased 2pac material. imagine an unreleased pac album with all new quik production.

she indirectly points to this idea by saying how 'all eyez on me' is the best sounding 2pac album production and mixing wise and they want to get back to this. well....maybe get at the man (quik) who was most responsible for this album!!! he's stilll out there...
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Post by: Mista Rosa on April 30, 2009, 05:23:46 AM
hope they will release some nate dogg too
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Post by: skriLL on April 30, 2009, 05:56:32 AM
looks promising, I wonder if they got that LBC crew album? what about the Sam Sneed album?

they definitely got the lbc crew album

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4069/lbc1.jpg)

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7577/lbc2.jpg)
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 06:52:27 AM
By the way I disagree with her...

7 Day Theory >> All Eyez On Me

That's personal opinion though...  8)

I think she just meant that the production on "All Eyez on Me" sounded a bit more polished than on "7 Day Theory."  At least, I think that's what she meant.  If I interpreted what she said correctly, I kind of agree with her on that.  "7 Day Theory" is an excellent album, but it did have more or a raw sound, imo.

My only problem with her argument concerning mastering is that the polish sound is necessary better.  It's supposed to sound raw for a reason unless it was poorly executed during mastering.  Not everything is meant to be polished.

That's a good point... I can point out non-2 Pac releases.

People always say acts like Wu-Tang need to remaster their classic albums like "36 Chambers", well to be honest, no that wouldn't sound right. An album like that is supposed to be raw. Even the Biggie re-release of "Ready To Die". I thought there was something lost when they remastered it. Some of that 90s Hip Hop sounds "better" in the old format, more in the cassette form. Again, that's personal opinion though. I have to admit though, I really did like some of those remasters such as "Dogg Food".

Remastering is really to be considered on an album-to-album basis instead of a must do for EVERY project.


i LOVE hearing a 2009-master of a song from 1993.....it sounds so much better
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Post by: MarshColin on April 30, 2009, 07:04:42 AM
When she starts dropping these releases, assuming she does them right, go out and fucking buy them! This forum has been 50% posts about unreleased Death Row since the forum's inception. We've all bitched about this for years, and now our patience has paid off. So just go out and buy the shit, there's no excuse not to especially since they're doing everything the LEGAL way and compensating the original artists.
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 07:04:53 AM
This may not be as easy as it sounds as some artists like Dr Dre had their own publishing, which means they also retain creative control. this stopped death row putting parts of its catalogue dre was involved with before... there was a lawsuit about some kind of burn on demand system a few years ago. dre won by saying that putting it out in another form was breaking his creative vision or something along those lines..

however. snoop was under suge publishing which is why they were able to do things like dead man walking

remember even after he left for no limit, he dropped 2 albums which suge got loot from.. last meal was the last album that put money into suges pockets.

the lbc crew might well not have been (as snoop did it all on doggystyle/death row).. suge wasnt keen on putting artists who werent on his publishing out.


in short. just because you own the master tape, doesnt mean you own the right to publish it.
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Post by: Mista Rosa on April 30, 2009, 07:15:18 AM
hope they will release some nate dogg too
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 07:15:51 AM
When she starts dropping these releases, assuming she does them right, go out and fucking buy them! This forum has been 50% posts about unreleased Death Row since the forum's inception. We've all bitched about this for years, and now our patience has paid off. So just go out and buy the shit, there's no excuse not to especially since they're doing everything the LEGAL way and compensating the original artists.

+1
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Post by: Dre-Day on April 30, 2009, 07:34:36 AM
This may not be as easy as it sounds as some artists like Dr Dre had their own publishing, which means they also retain creative control. this stopped death row putting parts of its catalogue dre was involved with before... there was a lawsuit about some kind of burn on demand system a few years ago. dre won by saying that putting it out in another form was breaking his creative vision or something along those lines..

however. snoop was under suge publishing which is why they were able to do things like dead man walking

remember even after he left for no limit, he dropped 2 albums which suge got loot from.. last meal was the last album that put money into suges pockets.

the lbc crew might well not have been (as snoop did it all on doggystyle/death row).. suge wasnt keen on putting artists who werent on his publishing out.


in short. just because you own the master tape, doesnt mean you own the right to publish it.
yeah she also mentioned that in the video.

i don't see why Dre wouldn't cooperate though; he wants to get paid right?
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Post by: love33 on April 30, 2009, 07:38:49 AM
It's a shame Johnny J passed away -- she could have hollered at him to make some new beats or touch up some of the beats that were on the classic unreleased death row material since he would have known best what to put on them.  I miss that classic "Run Tha Streetz" laid back west coast production he brought to the table which imo is better than 90% of the production post 2000.  Johnny J brought the west coast hypnotic laid back pacific ocean beats to life on his shit but he did it in a way with hard base and laid back melodies that you could play in your ride or at the club.  RIP Johnny J
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 07:40:48 AM
Does Dre need to get paid? i think he's ok for cash...

I certainly think that if they can get past Dre's protective shield of Yes-men that Dre would be happier now that its not really the original Death Row or Suge putting it out or profitting from it.

btw The Chronic and Doggystyle, and more already got 'remastered' only a couple of years ago, with bonus video content. I bought those. I've got 3 copies of The Chronic in various forms, plus all the 12"s, and 4 versions of Doggystyle, with all the 12"s and CD's's again.

The only thing 'extra' these releases are promising to offer are some extra pictures and a DVD.

Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...

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Post by: Digital Pimpin' on April 30, 2009, 07:49:05 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.
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Post by: kuruptDPG on April 30, 2009, 07:49:28 AM
it seems like they re-release all the albums and will add in extra traks/videos, that isnt so bad, least we will be getting new music out of it.

cant wait to hear the dr.dre/snoop/tha dogg pound material, lets just hope they cooperate with wideawake so that they can put it out.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 07:50:25 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE
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Post by: Dre-Day on April 30, 2009, 07:51:13 AM
Does Dre need to get paid? i think he's ok for cash...

I certainly think that if they can get past Dre's protective shield of Yes-men that Dre would be happier now that its not really the original Death Row or Suge putting it out or profitting from it.

btw The Chronic and Doggystyle, and more already got 'remastered' only a couple of years ago, with bonus video content. I bought those. I've got 3 copies of The Chronic in various forms, plus all the 12"s, and 4 versions of Doggystyle, with all the 12"s and CD's's again.

The only thing 'extra' these releases are promising to offer are some extra pictures and a DVD.

Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...



i know, Dre is very rich, but i meant was, i think Dre doesn't mind that an other company is putting out a product with his name on it, as long as he gets a piece of the pie.

anyway, yeah you're right, those releases were remastered before.
but she's also talking about adding previously unreleased songs.

whether she's able to pull that off is another story though
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 07:59:28 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.
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Post by: Digital Pimpin' on April 30, 2009, 08:26:45 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

Unless Hack Wilson's talking about titties being blurred out and the like?
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 08:34:28 AM
i've also got rips with those logos.. and even the gun visible.. :)  but you can kinda understand why that happened..

what do you guys reckon about the possibiiliy of dvd's.. would be sick if The Chronic came with all the videos from that on a DVD.. same for Doggystyle..


btw.. What about the Deep Cover soundtrack?... kind of the row's 'real' first release..
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Post by: Digital Pimpin' on April 30, 2009, 08:38:24 AM
I think some DualDisc versions of Chronic & Doggystyle were released back in 05, which had the CD on one side and a DVD on the other with all the videos. Never seen them on sale outside of the internet tho.
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:33:28 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

My only problem with the videos they included on that collection was that the picture quality for most of them was crap.  I thought the video selection was pretty good, but the quality on most of them was god awful.  If memory serves me, there were maybe only a couple that were passable.  I don't know what source they used for the video, but it's evident they did nothing to them to clean them up.  From the way they talk, I don't think Wideawake will make the same mistake.
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 09:45:37 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

eh i know Dante sold a DVD of 2pac video's for like 299 or some shit with the dirty cuts of death row vids like natural born killers
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 09:53:02 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

eh i know Dante sold a DVD of 2pac video's for like 299 or some shit with the dirty cuts of death row vids like natural born killers

Yeah.  He had a Tupac video collection for sale that actually looked pretty nice.  I was thinkin' it was actually only about 80 bucks.  Because I remember thinking that was one project I was giving some thought to supporting.  I actually thought that seemed like a fairly reasonable price at the time, because it had pretty much every video, and most of them were supposed to be in dvd quality.
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 10:48:39 AM
I think some DualDisc versions of Chronic & Doggystyle were released back in 05, which had the CD on one side and a DVD on the other with all the videos. Never seen them on sale outside of the internet tho.

thats what i've got.. its an enchanced CD
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 11:09:06 AM
Tell you what, a non-fucked up video compilation would go down a treat. The death row video release cut stuff short didnt it...


The "15 Years on Death Row" compliation has a bonus disc with about 20-25 music videos in full. Shame they were all the censored versions...but hey, it's a start.

the videos were made that way....shame they had gin and juice remix instead of OG 

but the gin and juice remix is FIRE

not true. i've got mtv rips of the full versions of some of the videos that were cut short.

eh i know Dante sold a DVD of 2pac video's for like 299 or some shit with the dirty cuts of death row vids like natural born killers

Yeah.  He had a Tupac video collection for sale that actually looked pretty nice.  I was thinkin' it was actually only about 80 bucks.  Because I remember thinking that was one project I was giving some thought to supporting.  I actually thought that seemed like a fairly reasonable price at the time, because it had pretty much every video, and most of them were supposed to be in dvd quality.

lol
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Post by: Jimmy H. on April 30, 2009, 11:18:36 AM
btw.. What about the Deep Cover soundtrack?... kind of the row's 'real' first release..
I don't think Death Row ever had the rights to it. It's never been on any of their releases and even though, Death Row prohibited use of their music for the documentary, "Welcome To Death Row" in 2001, the song and sections of the video appeared. I think Death Row did that song under another deal (possibly with Solar) and didn't maintain the same control of it as the rest of their library. Could be wrong though but it is weird that it never appeared on any of their compilations like the Greatest Hits of Dre (both import and domestic) or the two recent compilations but they did include the 187Um remix. 
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 11:23:40 AM
Death Row tried to and were not able to get Deep Cover on the Chronic album due to it not being a Death row song
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
so yeah, that sampler (sans the two Crooked I tracks) sucked balls
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 11:26:01 AM
yeah its likely a solar.. sony thing (would have to check my copy)


but its funny that like 187um (which i know isnt quite the same as the song deep cover) werent on death row releases, appeared on some pretty odd compilations over the years
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 11:29:06 AM
187um was released on the Dre Day single so they owned the rights to that track


but the Deep Cover "tongihts the night i get in some shit" is only on the Deep Cover cd or the Death row Europe release which sells in the states for like a few bucks more than a regular cd  (say a regular CD is 14 bucks, it sells for 17 or 18)
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 11:32:51 AM
187um was released on the Dre Day single so they owned the rights to that track
ah hah!

i cant wait to get all my shit in itunes properly so its can what tracks were where easily.. forget so much!
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 11:34:27 AM

actually you just made me realise something....


its highly likely the company will release

the chronic + puffin on blunts+ 187um as both were chronic single b-sides..

and the fans are expecting.. mr officer and ho hopper






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Post by: EFFeX on April 30, 2009, 11:41:36 AM

actually you just made me realise something....


its highly likely the company will release

the chronic + puffin on blunts+ 187um as both were chronic single b-sides..

and the fans are expecting.. mr officer and ho hopper








I have been suspecting the same thing...
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 11:53:25 AM

since i realised it. i'm pretty much sure of it.  :-\

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Post by: Dre-Day on April 30, 2009, 12:12:26 PM

since i realised it. i'm pretty much sure of it.  :-\



i'm not so sure of that; if they want people to buy their releases, starting off with a lie would be a bad move.

i'm not saying it won't happen, it's just that i'm not sure if the company is that stupid
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 12:18:06 PM

since i realised it. i'm pretty much sure of it.  :-\



i'm not so sure of that; if they want people to buy their releases, starting off with a lie is a very bad move.

i'm not saying it won't happen, it's just that i'm not sure if the company is that stupid

I don't think that will happen either, unless Wideawake is actually unaware that these tracks have been released before.  I think they're up on their Row knowledge to know that both of those tracks have already been released in various forms, on other releases (Including the recent "15 Years On Death Row" compilation).  I think more than likely we'll get at least two actual unreleased tracks from that era (keep that in mind too-she said "at least two" previously unreleased tracks).  I'm guessing "Mr. Officer," "Rat-ta-Tat-Tat (OG)," and/or "Ho Hopper."  But time will tell.
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Post by: Dre-Day on April 30, 2009, 12:20:41 PM

since i realised it. i'm pretty much sure of it.  :-\



i'm not so sure of that; if they want people to buy their releases, starting off with a lie is a very bad move.

i'm not saying it won't happen, it's just that i'm not sure if the company is that stupid

I don't think that will happen either, unless Wideawake is actually unaware that these tracks have been released before.  I think they're up on their Row knowledge to know that both of those tracks have already been released in various forms, on other releases (Including the recent "15 Years On Death Row" compilation).  I think more than likely we'll get at least two actual unreleased tracks from that era (keep that in mind too-she said "at least two" previously unreleased tracks).  I'm guessing "Mr. Officer," "Rat-ta-Tat-Tat (OG)," and/or "Ho Hopper."  But time will tell.

yeah i'm giving the company the benefit of the doubt, we'll see
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 12:59:46 PM

actually you just made me realise something....


its highly likely the company will release

the chronic + puffin on blunts+ 187um as both were chronic single b-sides..

and the fans are expecting.. mr officer and ho hopper








I have been suspecting the same thing...

i'll buy it if NEXT EPISODE is on there lol
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Post by: Don Seer on April 30, 2009, 01:19:11 PM

should it be on doggystyle?
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Post by: Efrain on April 30, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Does Dre need to get paid? i think he's ok for cash...

I certainly think that if they can get past Dre's protective shield of Yes-men that Dre would be happier now that its not really the original Death Row or Suge putting it out or profitting from it.




I honestly don't think either of them (Snoop or Dre) would object to old unreleased stuff being released purely on principal. My guess is any objections are going to come more in the way of release logistics and potentially threatening sales on their current albums. Like Interscope wouldn't want WideAwake dropping a Chronic re-issue on the same month as Detox or something like that.

Snoop and co seems to get motivated by listening to their old stuff so maybe they're all for it.
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Post by: JohnnyL on April 30, 2009, 02:07:10 PM
Does Dre need to get paid? i think he's ok for cash...

I certainly think that if they can get past Dre's protective shield of Yes-men that Dre would be happier now that its not really the original Death Row or Suge putting it out or profitting from it.




I honestly don't think either of them (Snoop or Dre) would object to old unreleased stuff being released purely on principal. My guess is any objections are going to come more in the way of release logistics and potentially threatening sales on their current albums. Like Interscope wouldn't want WideAwake dropping a Chronic re-issue on the same month as Detox or something like that.

Snoop and co seems to get motivated by listening to their old stuff so maybe they're all for it.

I don't think so either.  I think their main issue in the past was Suge making money off of them.  The situation now is different, and it would be an opportunity for them to make some more money off their old unreleased work.  I realize they don't need the money, but it's money that I bet they wouldn't turn down.  I think things will work out okay in this instance.
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Post by: kuruptDPG on April 30, 2009, 03:01:27 PM
it seems like they re-release all the albums and will add in extra traks/videos, that isnt so bad, least we will be getting new music out of it.

cant wait to hear the dr.dre/snoop/tha dogg pound material, lets just hope they cooperate with wideawake so that they can put it out.
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Post by: Muhfukka on April 30, 2009, 05:41:43 PM
i'll believe it when i see it
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Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on April 30, 2009, 05:44:21 PM
Email them with your concerns and encourage them not to alter the original product created by the artists and the producers:  info@wideawakehc.com

I don't know if it'll do much but what's the worst that'll happen.

Make sure your grammar and spelling is correct so they take it serious.

Good post.  The only they'll treat the music seriously is if they sense that we are as well.  That means supporting the releases financially and being mature about understanding how the business works.  If the re-release of The Chronic flops and we all just illegally download the two unreleased songs, we won't hear any of the other stuff.  There seems to be a real cause and effect this time.
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Post by: Detox Is A Myth!!! on April 30, 2009, 05:46:14 PM
looks promising, I wonder if they got that LBC crew album?

LBC Crew in CD quality > 2pac originals in CDQ

Just imo.  I pray they have the masters and Snoop was just b.s.ing about Style trashing them.
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Post by: woof on April 30, 2009, 05:52:35 PM
looks promising, I wonder if they got that LBC crew album? what about the Sam Sneed album?

they definitely got the lbc crew album

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4069/lbc1.jpg)

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7577/lbc2.jpg)
Propz for the list  8)

you got a list of snoop unreleased??
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 06:33:36 PM
looks promising, I wonder if they got that LBC crew album?

LBC Crew in CD quality > 2pac originals in CDQ

Just imo.

i respect your opinion but think its silly


LBC Crew's best song ever?  Out the moon.  why? 2pac verse lol.


AND THEY DID SOME CLASSIC SONGS WITH MY BOY CROOKED
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Post by: acgrundy on April 30, 2009, 06:44:47 PM
I'll take the lbc crew album over anything
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Post by: OG Hack Wilson on April 30, 2009, 06:45:28 PM
I'll take the lbc crew album over anything


ill take the 50 2pac tracks over any music evre made anywhere else other than 2pac from 1991-1995
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Post by: EFFeX on April 30, 2009, 07:58:14 PM
I'll take the lbc crew album over anything


ill take the 50 2pac tracks over any music evre made anywhere else other than 2pac from 1991-1995

I guess it's all opinion... I mean, Pac was dope, but he's not the beginning and ending of all music for me. I haven't bumped a Pac album in ages believe it or not.
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Post by: Don Seer on May 01, 2009, 10:14:02 AM
indeed fuck 2pac.

anyways the lbc crew version of out the moon was the original, without pac.


btw if you got this far the pac comment in the first line was a test.. if it riled you.. you need to get off his dick.
the second biggest thing thats ruined pacs legacy after the dodgy remix albums are his fan boys
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: Dre-Day on May 01, 2009, 10:51:15 AM
indeed fuck 2pac.

anyways the lbc crew version of out the moon was the original, without pac.


btw if you got this far the pac comment in the first line was a test.. if it riled you.. you need to get off his dick.
the second biggest thing thats ruined pacs legacy after the dodgy remix albums are his fan boys
lol, you've hit the nail on the head
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: kuruptlon on May 01, 2009, 10:51:30 AM
I think you guys are wrong or just wishful thinking that Dre is gonna want to see his unreleased Death Row material released. The guy is a perfectionist to a fault, the stuff at Death Row is old and from another time period that he obviously doesn't want to be associated with anymore.

Dre's not the kinda guy to just release stuff to release it. Before he puts anything out he obviously puts a lot of thought into it so to think he's just gonna be like sure release my old shit is kinda going against everything we've known about the man for the last decade or so. The truth is he probably feels that alot of the stuff that didnt see the light of day from him (and this only pertains to dre) didn't see the light of day because it wasn't good enough.

regarding the other matter at hand I would love to see that LBC album released

The original version of out the moon is booty compared to the pac version

and no need for anti pac animosity we're all friends here
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: mikeOG on May 01, 2009, 12:33:28 PM
oh shit so those LBC crew tracks were in the Vault all this time, freakin SUGE, Fat A$$ held on to this like it sucked. Hopefully the new Deathrow puts this album out, such great music

I wonder if the Sam Sneed Album was included in the catalog sold to the new owners, i'd love to see that to. anyone seen anything about sam sneed when the auction was up?
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: mikeOG on May 01, 2009, 12:43:24 PM
Regarding the dre tracks, in the interview she mentioned that they have talked to dre or his people about not interfering with the "detox" release. she mentioned nothing about getting approval to release tracks. Maybe they already have a understanding? And why would this release interfere with Dre's Detox release if it will only have old tracks that have been released.

Hopefully Dre has already given his Go-Ahead to release old material and its a non-issue.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on May 01, 2009, 01:01:50 PM
 I don't see how a Chronic re-release would have any impact (good or bad) on a potential "Detox" release, provided they release it in a time-frame reasonably close to what they stated in the interview.  If the album really does drop in June (or thereabouts), there is no way that will come even close to the time-frame that Dre is looking at for dropping "Detox."  While I don't believe anyone knows for sure when Dr. Dre is going to release "Detox,"  I think we can all be reasonably certain that it will not come out in the next month or two.  As far as the inclusion of the unreleased material, I don't think Lara Lavi would have mentioned it if she wasn't fairly certain that it could be included.
 I know that Dre is reputed to be a perfectionist, but we don't even know for sure what these previously unreleased tracks are.  We don't necessarily know that these tracks were cut from "The Chronic" because Dre didn't like them.  I think there has already been one interview with Lara Lavi and John Payne where one of them mentioned that some of the material cut from "The Chronic" was cut, not for being sub-par material, but merely because they already had enough at that point, for a full-length album.   
 I really do think that Dre's objections to this sort of stuff in the past had more to do with the poor relationship between himself and Suge.  Not to mention that in the past when it was an issue, Suge wanted to remix Dre's old songs and add artists from the then-current Death Row roster to the tracks.  And to add insult to injury, it was for inclusion on an album that was basically stealing the title from Dre's then-upcoming album.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: kuruptlon on May 01, 2009, 01:12:43 PM
I don't see how a Chronic re-release would have any impact (good or bad) on a potential "Detox" release, provided they release it in a time-frame reasonably close to what they stated in the interview.  If the album really does drop in June (or thereabouts), there is no way that will come even close to the time-frame that Dre is looking at for dropping "Detox."  While I don't believe anyone knows for sure when Dr. Dre is going to release "Detox,"  I think we can all be reasonably certain that it will not come out in the next month or two.  As far as the inclusion of the unreleased material, I don't think Lara Lavi would have mentioned it if she wasn't fairly certain that it could be included.
 I know that Dre is reputed to be a perfectionist, but we don't even know for sure what these previously unreleased tracks are.  We don't necessarily know that these tracks were cut from "The Chronic" because Dre didn't like them.  I think there has already been one interview with Lara Lavi and John Payne where one of them mentioned that some of the material cut from "The Chronic" was cut, not for being sub-par material, but merely because they already had enough at that point, for a full-length album.   
 I really do think that Dre's objections to this sort of stuff in the past had more to do with the poor relationship between himself and Suge.  Not to mention that in the past when it was an issue, Suge wanted to remix Dre's old songs and add artists from the then-current Death Row roster to the tracks.  And to add insult to injury, it was for inclusion on an album that was basically stealing the title from Dre's then-upcoming album.

haha that was kind of funny but at the same time Suge was just acting like a child, The fact that he spent most of the rows later days trying to mess with the sales of former artist was pretty pathetic and childish. I mean I got a lot of respect for Suge and just about anything Death Row but I just can't wrap my head around why he thought releasing things like the Chronic 2000 (which for the record did not need to be a double album with all that trash maybe there was enough good tracks on there for one album), Dead Man Walking, and Dogg Pound 2002. From outside perspective he was really just saying he wasn't shit without those guys because all he could do was put out their unreleased shit when they left. Just a bad look.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on May 01, 2009, 01:30:56 PM
I don't see how a Chronic re-release would have any impact (good or bad) on a potential "Detox" release, provided they release it in a time-frame reasonably close to what they stated in the interview.  If the album really does drop in June (or thereabouts), there is no way that will come even close to the time-frame that Dre is looking at for dropping "Detox."  While I don't believe anyone knows for sure when Dr. Dre is going to release "Detox,"  I think we can all be reasonably certain that it will not come out in the next month or two.  As far as the inclusion of the unreleased material, I don't think Lara Lavi would have mentioned it if she wasn't fairly certain that it could be included.
 I know that Dre is reputed to be a perfectionist, but we don't even know for sure what these previously unreleased tracks are.  We don't necessarily know that these tracks were cut from "The Chronic" because Dre didn't like them.  I think there has already been one interview with Lara Lavi and John Payne where one of them mentioned that some of the material cut from "The Chronic" was cut, not for being sub-par material, but merely because they already had enough at that point, for a full-length album.   
 I really do think that Dre's objections to this sort of stuff in the past had more to do with the poor relationship between himself and Suge.  Not to mention that in the past when it was an issue, Suge wanted to remix Dre's old songs and add artists from the then-current Death Row roster to the tracks.  And to add insult to injury, it was for inclusion on an album that was basically stealing the title from Dre's then-upcoming album.

haha that was kind of funny but at the same time Suge was just acting like a child, The fact that he spent most of the rows later days trying to mess with the sales of former artist was pretty pathetic and childish. I mean I got a lot of respect for Suge and just about anything Death Row but I just can't wrap my head around why he thought releasing things like the Chronic 2000 (which for the record did not need to be a double album with all that trash maybe there was enough good tracks on there for one album), Dead Man Walking, and Dogg Pound 2002. From outside perspective he was really just saying he wasn't shit without those guys because all he could do was put out their unreleased shit when they left. Just a bad look.

Yeah. Lol.  I have to agree with you on that point.  It was pretty childish.  It did sometimes make for some good entertainment (Some of the old Death Row website antics were hilarious), but overall, it probably did just hurt the company.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: kuruptlon on May 01, 2009, 01:35:55 PM
I don't see how a Chronic re-release would have any impact (good or bad) on a potential "Detox" release, provided they release it in a time-frame reasonably close to what they stated in the interview.  If the album really does drop in June (or thereabouts), there is no way that will come even close to the time-frame that Dre is looking at for dropping "Detox."  While I don't believe anyone knows for sure when Dr. Dre is going to release "Detox,"  I think we can all be reasonably certain that it will not come out in the next month or two.  As far as the inclusion of the unreleased material, I don't think Lara Lavi would have mentioned it if she wasn't fairly certain that it could be included.
 I know that Dre is reputed to be a perfectionist, but we don't even know for sure what these previously unreleased tracks are.  We don't necessarily know that these tracks were cut from "The Chronic" because Dre didn't like them.  I think there has already been one interview with Lara Lavi and John Payne where one of them mentioned that some of the material cut from "The Chronic" was cut, not for being sub-par material, but merely because they already had enough at that point, for a full-length album.   
 I really do think that Dre's objections to this sort of stuff in the past had more to do with the poor relationship between himself and Suge.  Not to mention that in the past when it was an issue, Suge wanted to remix Dre's old songs and add artists from the then-current Death Row roster to the tracks.  And to add insult to injury, it was for inclusion on an album that was basically stealing the title from Dre's then-upcoming album.

haha that was kind of funny but at the same time Suge was just acting like a child, The fact that he spent most of the rows later days trying to mess with the sales of former artist was pretty pathetic and childish. I mean I got a lot of respect for Suge and just about anything Death Row but I just can't wrap my head around why he thought releasing things like the Chronic 2000 (which for the record did not need to be a double album with all that trash maybe there was enough good tracks on there for one album), Dead Man Walking, and Dogg Pound 2002. From outside perspective he was really just saying he wasn't shit without those guys because all he could do was put out their unreleased shit when they left. Just a bad look.

Yeah. Lol.  I have to agree with you on that point.  It was pretty childish.  It did sometimes make for some good entertainment (Some of the old Death Row website antics were hilarious), but overall, it probably did just hurt the company.


Refresh my memory, I used to check out the website and I definitely remember some stuff but its been awhile (most memorably the crooked i drop which was sick).
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: JohnnyL on May 01, 2009, 02:07:35 PM
I don't see how a Chronic re-release would have any impact (good or bad) on a potential "Detox" release, provided they release it in a time-frame reasonably close to what they stated in the interview.  If the album really does drop in June (or thereabouts), there is no way that will come even close to the time-frame that Dre is looking at for dropping "Detox."  While I don't believe anyone knows for sure when Dr. Dre is going to release "Detox,"  I think we can all be reasonably certain that it will not come out in the next month or two.  As far as the inclusion of the unreleased material, I don't think Lara Lavi would have mentioned it if she wasn't fairly certain that it could be included.
 I know that Dre is reputed to be a perfectionist, but we don't even know for sure what these previously unreleased tracks are.  We don't necessarily know that these tracks were cut from "The Chronic" because Dre didn't like them.  I think there has already been one interview with Lara Lavi and John Payne where one of them mentioned that some of the material cut from "The Chronic" was cut, not for being sub-par material, but merely because they already had enough at that point, for a full-length album.   
 I really do think that Dre's objections to this sort of stuff in the past had more to do with the poor relationship between himself and Suge.  Not to mention that in the past when it was an issue, Suge wanted to remix Dre's old songs and add artists from the then-current Death Row roster to the tracks.  And to add insult to injury, it was for inclusion on an album that was basically stealing the title from Dre's then-upcoming album.

haha that was kind of funny but at the same time Suge was just acting like a child, The fact that he spent most of the rows later days trying to mess with the sales of former artist was pretty pathetic and childish. I mean I got a lot of respect for Suge and just about anything Death Row but I just can't wrap my head around why he thought releasing things like the Chronic 2000 (which for the record did not need to be a double album with all that trash maybe there was enough good tracks on there for one album), Dead Man Walking, and Dogg Pound 2002. From outside perspective he was really just saying he wasn't shit without those guys because all he could do was put out their unreleased shit when they left. Just a bad look.

Yeah. Lol.  I have to agree with you on that point.  It was pretty childish.  It did sometimes make for some good entertainment (Some of the old Death Row website antics were hilarious), but overall, it probably did just hurt the company.


Refresh my memory, I used to check out the website and I definitely remember some stuff but its been awhile (most memorably the crooked i drop which was sick).

Well, like when Death Row put up Snoops "Last Meal" album up for free download.  They said they did it so you could compare it to the "Dead Man Walkin'" album to see which one you thought was better.  But they only put "Dead Man Walkin'" up in "real audio" format while they put "Last Meal" up in mp3.  Then, later they did the same thing to Daz, putting his "DPGC: You Know What I'm Throwin' Up" album up for download in mp3.  (Daz kinda got them back though, by posting the entire "Dyzfunktional Family" soundtrack up for free download.  They also posted a lot of graphics on their homepage where they took shots at Dre, Snoop, and others.  There was one where they openly invited Jayo Felony to sign to Death Row so he could help them "ride on" the former inmates (evidently Jayo had voiced some kind of disapproval with one or more of Snoop or Dre's entourage at the time-can't remember what that was all about.)  They had one opening graphic where they made fun of Snoop, Dre and Jermain Dupri for pre-taping their performances for that years "Source Awards," citing that those artists where afraid to go to the actual ceremony because they might run into Tha Row artists.  There were several others...I remember one particular dissing Snoop had a cartoon dog barking.  Then you heard gunshots and a dog making a "yelping" sound.  I can't remember everything, but that's some.
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: Jimmy H. on May 01, 2009, 04:17:12 PM
The Jayo situation was he made comments about Snoop. Death Row pretty much quoted the comments he used and then said they wanted him to come fuck with the label. Nothing came of it though it started this annoying trend among Death Row groupies where anytime someone dissed Dre, Eminem, or Snoop, they immediately just assumed they were a free agent and could sign with Tha Row. The funniest example being someone saying that they should sign Limp Bizkit after Eminem released that "Girls" diss track.

As far as Dre and his old work, I wouldn't say it's impossible for a deal to be made. The circumstances surrounding the unreleased Dre material in 1998-99 were much different. Death Row was putting out a "Chronic 2000" album which was Dre's planned album title. They were adding new artists in who Dre didn't work with or produce in any way, altering the music he created. There were still heavy legal disputes between the two and Suge was very vocal in dissing Dre at that point. Dre was reportedly not seeing proper royalties for his publishing as well. I think a new group changes the scenerio a little bit. It's still not a guarantee of anything but the hostile history isn't there with Lara Lavi so he'd at least be more open to the discussion. 
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac songs..
Post by: J$crILLa on May 01, 2009, 07:47:35 PM
would love to see 2pac material released how he created it but i dont know if that will ever be possible
Title: Re: Deathrow owner Lara Lavi Talks 1st release (Chronic), fans leaking Tupac son
Post by: kuruptlon on May 02, 2009, 10:41:06 AM
I don't see how a Chronic re-release would have any impact (good or bad) on a potential "Detox" release, provided they release it in a time-frame reasonably close to what they stated in the interview.  If the album really does drop in June (or thereabouts), there is no way that will come even close to the time-frame that Dre is looking at for dropping "Detox."  While I don't believe anyone knows for sure when Dr. Dre is going to release "Detox,"  I think we can all be reasonably certain that it will not come out in the next month or two.  As far as the inclusion of the unreleased material, I don't think Lara Lavi would have mentioned it if she wasn't fairly certain that it could be included.
 I know that Dre is reputed to be a perfectionist, but we don't even know for sure what these previously unreleased tracks are.  We don't necessarily know that these tracks were cut from "The Chronic" because Dre didn't like them.  I think there has already been one interview with Lara Lavi and John Payne where one of them mentioned that some of the material cut from "The Chronic" was cut, not for being sub-par material, but merely because they already had enough at that point, for a full-length album.   
 I really do think that Dre's objections to this sort of stuff in the past had more to do with the poor relationship between himself and Suge.  Not to mention that in the past when it was an issue, Suge wanted to remix Dre's old songs and add artists from the then-current Death Row roster to the tracks.  And to add insult to injury, it was for inclusion on an album that was basically stealing the title from Dre's then-upcoming album.

haha that was kind of funny but at the same time Suge was just acting like a child, The fact that he spent most of the rows later days trying to mess with the sales of former artist was pretty pathetic and childish. I mean I got a lot of respect for Suge and just about anything Death Row but I just can't wrap my head around why he thought releasing things like the Chronic 2000 (which for the record did not need to be a double album with all that trash maybe there was enough good tracks on there for one album), Dead Man Walking, and Dogg Pound 2002. From outside perspective he was really just saying he wasn't shit without those guys because all he could do was put out their unreleased shit when they left. Just a bad look.

Yeah. Lol.  I have to agree with you on that point.  It was pretty childish.  It did sometimes make for some good entertainment (Some of the old Death Row website antics were hilarious), but overall, it probably did just hurt the company.


Refresh my memory, I used to check out the website and I definitely remember some stuff but its been awhile (most memorably the crooked i drop which was sick).

Well, like when Death Row put up Snoops "Last Meal" album up for free download.  They said they did it so you could compare it to the "Dead Man Walkin'" album to see which one you thought was better.  But they only put "Dead Man Walkin'" up in "real audio" format while they put "Last Meal" up in mp3.  Then, later they did the same thing to Daz, putting his "DPGC: You Know What I'm Throwin' Up" album up for download in mp3.  (Daz kinda got them back though, by posting the entire "Dyzfunktional Family" soundtrack up for free download.  They also posted a lot of graphics on their homepage where they took shots at Dre, Snoop, and others.  There was one where they openly invited Jayo Felony to sign to Death Row so he could help them "ride on" the former inmates (evidently Jayo had voiced some kind of disapproval with one or more of Snoop or Dre's entourage at the time-can't remember what that was all about.)  They had one opening graphic where they made fun of Snoop, Dre and Jermain Dupri for pre-taping their performances for that years "Source Awards," citing that those artists where afraid to go to the actual ceremony because they might run into Tha Row artists.  There were several others...I remember one particular dissing Snoop had a cartoon dog barking.  Then you heard gunshots and a dog making a "yelping" sound.  I can't remember everything, but that's some.


lol I remember that shit thanks for refreshing my memory