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Title: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: MoodMuzik on May 14, 2009, 06:11:39 PM
http://nahright.com/news/2009/05/14/video-method-man-tony-touch-freestyle-joe-budden-diss/
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: stillinrehab on May 14, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
Haha only short but its in there! Fuck Buddens I hope he gets whats comin to him...  8)
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Don Jacob on May 14, 2009, 09:24:01 PM
no one cares about joe budden
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: S P I C E on May 14, 2009, 09:28:04 PM
Budden shits on all of rap let alone Meth and Red
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: S P I C E on May 14, 2009, 09:28:48 PM
no one cares about joe budden

Keep on bumpin Warren G and Dr. Dre  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: J. Bryson on May 14, 2009, 10:05:23 PM
wonder if the rest of slaughterhouse will get involved? S.H. vs red and meth would be crazy.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: The Watcher on May 14, 2009, 10:40:03 PM
redman > *
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Rick McCrank on May 14, 2009, 11:54:02 PM
I saw the Budden video but got bored with it....

what EXACTLY did he have to say about these 2?

I can't imagine he'd diss them?  you know he's got to be a fan of their music...

I don't know, after hearing BO2, Method Man is probably the sickest rapper around...
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 15, 2009, 01:19:15 AM
What did they say I can't be bothered to listen
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: ABN on May 15, 2009, 02:22:55 AM
the pump it up ho can´t touch Reggie on the mic so he better leave it alone. and lol at anyone thinking Crooked and them are gonna get involved in this BS.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Kool Beenz on May 15, 2009, 02:33:16 AM
wow that shit was a waste of my life
and a diss to Joe budden  will be a waste of music

all 3 of these artists are WACK
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Okka on May 15, 2009, 05:03:46 AM
Budden shits on all of rap let alone Meth and Red

Meth & Red > Buddden
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Drudge on May 15, 2009, 06:06:42 AM
That was a "punch"? pretty weak
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: T-Dogg on May 15, 2009, 08:19:12 AM
I saw the Budden video but got bored with it....

what EXACTLY did he have to say about these 2?

I can't imagine he'd diss them?  you know he's got to be a fan of their music...

I don't know, after hearing BO2, Method Man is probably the sickest rapper around...

Budden got it twisted with this "Best Rapper Ever" tournament Vibe magazine got going on. He got offended that Meth & Red had "better" numbers than him in the tournament bracket (everyone's got a number from 1 to 32). Then he proceeded to talk how Redman's "rank" in the bracket was debatable and how Method Man couldn't see him on the mic.

The funny thing to me in all this is the fact that the numbers in the tourney bracket don't mean shit - they're just distinguishing numbers, like you'd have for election candidates, and don't hold any ranking purpose what so ever. So basically Budden got mad over nothing and proceeded to talk shit 'cause of that.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Booz on May 15, 2009, 11:42:02 AM
wonder if the rest of slaughterhouse will get involved? S.H. vs red and meth would be crazy.
I doubt it. Joe is the only cocky cock on Slaughterhouse.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 15, 2009, 12:03:58 PM
The words cocky cock should never be said by anyone
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Booz on May 15, 2009, 12:15:38 PM
The words cocky cock should never be said by anyone
Yeah, my bad.
Cocky dickhead Mr. Budden it is.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Elano on May 15, 2009, 12:16:17 PM
no one cares about joe budden
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 15, 2009, 12:21:25 PM
No one cares about elano
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Elano on May 15, 2009, 12:22:54 PM
No one cares about elano
stupid stalker,get off my nuts
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 15, 2009, 12:26:46 PM
So jerk off to your ronaldo poster you greasy wop
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: JohnnyL on May 15, 2009, 12:28:13 PM
I actually like all 3 of these guys' music.  I think lyrically Methodman and Redman are both extremely tight.  But really, if we're just going by that video, I don't think either of them really spit anything earth-shattering.  Did they even mention Budden by name?  I didn't notice his name even come up, although that probably was who Meth was referring to.  Either way, if you took Red and Meth at the top of their game and pitted them against Joe Budden, I'm not sure who would win.  To me, if this motivates both parties to record more, then great.  Maybe this will even lead to some extra "Slaughterhouse" tracks.  But otherwise, I don't even really care who would win this so-called battle.  As long as neither side gets too carried away with it.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: thisoneguy360 on May 15, 2009, 12:56:20 PM
Joe Budden= the shit. But Red and Meth shit all over Joe, he's an idiot for calling them out.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Þŕiņçë on May 15, 2009, 04:34:43 PM
Joe budden fans are almost as delirious as joe himself. claiming he the best emcee...fuck outta here. slaughterhouse went to his head. dude is ASS...PLUS hes a fucking cry baby....he talks shit about hip hop and how its so garbage and not about the music...when HES the one whos constantly talking shit trying to start bullshit little beefs just to get his name out and promote his weak ass album...PUMP PUMP PUMP IT UP
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 15, 2009, 04:37:27 PM
Joe budden is a top ten emcee like it or not
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 04:43:25 PM
That was a "punch"? pretty weak

I agree. I like Red and Meth, but the freestyle was EH at most! We'll see what Budden comes with. It's funny how everyone runs to nut jockey Red and Meth because they are vets in the game. I like them, but come on people - some of you guys need to grow a brain and a pair of testicles to go with it.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 04:51:42 PM
in what time frame or sense tho?




Joe budden is a top ten emcee like it or not
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 15, 2009, 04:54:36 PM
vid wont work
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 15, 2009, 04:55:06 PM
That was a "punch"? pretty weak

I agree. I like Red and Meth, but the freestyle was EH at most! We'll see what Budden comes with. It's funny how everyone runs to nut jockey Red and Meth because they are vets in the game. I like them, but come on people - some of you guys need to grow a brain and a pair of testicles to go with it.


i have no interest in this "beef" - if that's what ppl are gonna call it
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 04:56:23 PM
in what time frame or sense tho?




Joe budden is a top ten emcee like it or not

Today, Joe Budden is in that top five for me. In the past, not so much. A lot of the old cats have became ass and a lot of hip hop fans won't acknowledge this. Joe, with the old dudes still around and on top of their game, would have been in the top 25 to 50 for me. However, times have changed and the game has changed.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 04:57:30 PM
That was a "punch"? pretty weak

I agree. I like Red and Meth, but the freestyle was EH at most! We'll see what Budden comes with. It's funny how everyone runs to nut jockey Red and Meth because they are vets in the game. I like them, but come on people - some of you guys need to grow a brain and a pair of testicles to go with it.


i have no interest in this "beef" - if that's what ppl are gonna call it

It's not even that, it's a bunch of idiots getting offended off what Budden says on a video. Meth and them are acting like they are offended because it's hype for them to pump their new album. It is what it is, Hack. Stupidity from the fans and promotion at its finest.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:03:09 PM
That was a "punch"? pretty weak

I agree. I like Red and Meth, but the freestyle was EH at most! We'll see what Budden comes with. It's funny how everyone runs to nut jockey Red and Meth because they are vets in the game. I like them, but come on people - some of you guys need to grow a brain and a pair of testicles to go with it.


i have no interest in this "beef" - if that's what ppl are gonna call it

It's not even that, it's a bunch of idiots getting offended off what Budden says on a video. Meth and them are acting like they are offended because it's hype for them to pump their new album. It is what it is, Hack. Stupidity from the fans and promotion at its finest.

Plus, Joey is helping them get promo for their shit too.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 05:03:44 PM
to each is own i guess but IMO
to start off wit in his own group he is last in line as far as bein dope
let alone all these others and many many others
there are many who are better joe, that dont mean joe is wack he jus aint on others level
now as far as the battle goes:
it might be a tuff 1 (against meth n red)
but IMO if they wanted to they could take him and give him a run



in what time frame or sense tho?




Joe budden is a top ten emcee like it or not

Today, Joe Budden is in that top five for me. In the past, not so much. A lot of the old cats have became ass and a lot of hip hop fans won't acknowledge this. Joe, with the old dudes still around and on top of their game, would have been in the top 25 to 50 for me. However, times have changed and the game has changed.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:05:52 PM
to each is own i guess but IMO
to start off wit in his own group he is last in line as far as bein dope
let alone all these others and many many others
there are many who are better joe, that dont mean joe is wack he jus aint on others level




in what time frame or sense tho?




Joe budden is a top ten emcee like it or not

Today, Joe Budden is in that top five for me. In the past, not so much. A lot of the old cats have became ass and a lot of hip hop fans won't acknowledge this. Joe, with the old dudes still around and on top of their game, would have been in the top 25 to 50 for me. However, times have changed and the game has changed.

I don't know man, I think he outshines Ortiz and Crooked I because I like Ortiz - it's just he ain't lyrical and Crooked I is too lyrical and his freestyles ain't freestyles. Royce and Joey are the strongest in Slaughterhouse in my opinion. I think now a days, those two hold top five out of all MC's by far. They are in their prime and on their A-Game.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 05:07:37 PM
thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much
for everyone he says he can beat, they need to get it in the booth and do what it do
that way he can prove to me people like me he truly is one of the best, cuz at the moment he isnt one of the best IMO
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: virtuoso on May 15, 2009, 05:08:42 PM
Exactly, it's obvious that most of todays legends should just give it up, the weed, the booze whatever, they are just a shadow of their former selves. I am glad joe budden is doing this, let it reignite the fire back into hiphop, I don't understand why people fall over themselves at a new method man verse either, it's average and yet by the fact he is a legend, his verse is somehow elevated to something else.

At the end of the day, none of us lose if they all step up to the plate and inspire people to actually focus on the art again.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:09:56 PM
thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:10:37 PM
Exactly, it's obvious that most of todays legends should just give it up, the weed, the booze whatever, they are just a shadow of their former selves. I am glad joe budden is doing this, let it reignite the fire back into hiphop, I don't understand why people fall over themselves at a new method man verse either, it's average and yet by the fact he is a legend, his verse is somehow elevated to something else.

At the end of the day, none of us lose if they all step up to the plate and inspire people to actually focus on the art again.

I like you, and I agree 100%. + 1 Virtuoso. You always have something smart to post.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 05:14:44 PM
yeah nah its not that i dont think havin the big ego is a bad thing
plain and simple if joe can take on and outrap anyone he thinks he can and does jus that, more power to him but theres some i dont think he can outrap, but i would like to be proven wrong
i mean joe is doin all this big talkin, he needs to try and make the battle or whatever happen not hypin this up and nuthin happens.
IMA SAY THIS, I HAVENT HEARD SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT 1 RAPPER IN YEARS, DAMN NEAR A DECADE
so the best way to duke it out would be to do a battle



thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on May 15, 2009, 05:15:54 PM
in what time frame or sense tho?




Joe budden is a top ten emcee like it or not

Today, Joe Budden is in that top five for me. In the past, not so much. A lot of the old cats have became ass and a lot of hip hop fans won't acknowledge this. Joe, with the old dudes still around and on top of their game, would have been in the top 25 to 50 for me. However, times have changed and the game has changed.

yep i agree



i think Meth and all of hte Wu are pretty washed up (hell its been 15 years since they were in their prime)

in this case Meth should've let sleeping dogs lay  cuz I think Joey's gonna rip MEth a new one



i prefer Meth historically but Joey shits on him now
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:17:11 PM
yeah nah its not that i dont think havin the big ego is a bad thing
plain and simple if joe can take on and outrap anyone he thinks he can and does jus that, more power to him but theres some i dont think he can outrap, but i would like to be proven wrong
i mean joe is doin all this big talkin, he needs to try and make the battle or whatever happen not hypin this up and nuthin happens.
IMA SAY THIS, I HAVENT HEARD SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT 1 RAPPER IN YEARS, DAMN NEAR A DECADE
so the best way to duke it out would be to do a battle



thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)

He'll battle if it comes down to it. Think of what he did to Saigon. Budden is a good dude at hyping himself. ;) He knows what he's doing. He's smart.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Jaydc555 on May 15, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Joey is whole another breed of emcee.He lays his life out in his songs and never does it come out pretenious.Its just heart like pac was.I'm moved when I listen to him spit.He is the deepest emcee in the game without question.People are getting too butt hurt over his comments.He's just speaking his mind some may call it cocky but its just him.I'm the same way.And just like budden I inspire hate and love from people around me because I'm just upfront and I'm just me.If you can't relate to his music its because you've never gone through that deep emotional struggle.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:21:17 PM
Joey is whole another breed of emcee.He lays his life out in his songs and never does it come out pretenious.Its just heart like pac was.I'm moved when I listen to him spit.He is the deepest emcee in the game without question.People are getting too butt hurt over his comments.He's just speaking his mind some may call it cocky but its just him.I'm the same way.And just like budden I inspire hate and love from people around me because I'm just upfront and I'm just me.If you can't relate to his music its because you've never gone through that deep emotional struggle.

+ 1 to you as well. That's what got me into Budden. ;)

EDIT:

Since they wanna hem you quick
I walk around like a Ginsu's tip
And that's just to get a mental grip
You don't feel what the pencil scripts
Then eight times outta ten you ain't been through shit
- Budden
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 05:22:42 PM
aite see thats a great example
saigon vs joe budden
saigon hypin it up and callin himself this n that and joe doin the same thing
that short war was good hip-hop.  str8 up joe won but saigon put up a good fight, but he mos def needed to bring more heat, BUT HE DIDNT AND JOE DID HIS THANG

now to this war that joe has called for and started
-i grew up on wu tang clan and others but i was also around when joe made pump it up.  
point im tryna make is, i want red n meth take outrap joe but i really dont know if they can, but i bet they are approachin this as if they could and its no problem



yeah nah its not that i dont think havin the big ego is a bad thing
plain and simple if joe can take on and outrap anyone he thinks he can and does jus that, more power to him but theres some i dont think he can outrap, but i would like to be proven wrong
i mean joe is doin all this big talkin, he needs to try and make the battle or whatever happen not hypin this up and nuthin happens.
IMA SAY THIS, I HAVENT HEARD SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT 1 RAPPER IN YEARS, DAMN NEAR A DECADE
so the best way to duke it out would be to do a battle



thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)

He'll battle if it comes down to it. Think of what he did to Saigon. Budden is a good dude at hyping himself. ;) He knows what he's doing. He's smart.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:25:50 PM
aite see thats a great example
saigon vs joe budden
saigon hypin it up and callin himself this n that and joe doin the same thing
that short war was good hip-hop.  str8 up joe won but saigon put up a good fight, but he mos def needed to bring more heat, BUT HE DIDNT AND JOE DID HIS THANG

now to this war that joe has called for and started
-i grew up on wu tang clan and others but i was also around when joe made pump it up.  
point im tryna make is, i want red n meth take outrap joe but i really dont know if they can, but i bet they are approachin this as if they could and its no problem



yeah nah its not that i dont think havin the big ego is a bad thing
plain and simple if joe can take on and outrap anyone he thinks he can and does jus that, more power to him but theres some i dont think he can outrap, but i would like to be proven wrong
i mean joe is doin all this big talkin, he needs to try and make the battle or whatever happen not hypin this up and nuthin happens.
IMA SAY THIS, I HAVENT HEARD SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT 1 RAPPER IN YEARS, DAMN NEAR A DECADE
so the best way to duke it out would be to do a battle



thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)

He'll battle if it comes down to it. Think of what he did to Saigon. Budden is a good dude at hyping himself. ;) He knows what he's doing. He's smart.

I'd like to see if they still have it, but I think in this case Budden might come at them with some Dum Out shit and just go ape shit on them but diss wise.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 05:30:15 PM
yeah me too, again i would want meth n red to slaughter him but if its vice versa and joe does outrap them, its still great for hip-hop
but say if crooked wanted to slaughter muffuccaz he could
2pac wasnt the best rapper, but IMO he could fuck muffuccaz up on the mic when he wanted to



aite see thats a great example
saigon vs joe budden
saigon hypin it up and callin himself this n that and joe doin the same thing
that short war was good hip-hop.  str8 up joe won but saigon put up a good fight, but he mos def needed to bring more heat, BUT HE DIDNT AND JOE DID HIS THANG

now to this war that joe has called for and started
-i grew up on wu tang clan and others but i was also around when joe made pump it up.  
point im tryna make is, i want red n meth take outrap joe but i really dont know if they can, but i bet they are approachin this as if they could and its no problem



yeah nah its not that i dont think havin the big ego is a bad thing
plain and simple if joe can take on and outrap anyone he thinks he can and does jus that, more power to him but theres some i dont think he can outrap, but i would like to be proven wrong
i mean joe is doin all this big talkin, he needs to try and make the battle or whatever happen not hypin this up and nuthin happens.
IMA SAY THIS, I HAVENT HEARD SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT 1 RAPPER IN YEARS, DAMN NEAR A DECADE
so the best way to duke it out would be to do a battle



thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)

He'll battle if it comes down to it. Think of what he did to Saigon. Budden is a good dude at hyping himself. ;) He knows what he's doing. He's smart.

I'd like to see if they still have it, but I think in this case Budden might come at them with some Dum Out shit and just go ape shit on them but diss wise.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 05:31:00 PM
yeah me too, again i would want meth n red to slaughter him but if its vice versa and joe does outrap them, its still great for hip-hop
but say if crooked wanted to slaughter muffuccaz he could
2pac wasnt the best rapper, but IMO he could fuck muffuccaz up on the mic when he wanted to



aite see thats a great example
saigon vs joe budden
saigon hypin it up and callin himself this n that and joe doin the same thing
that short war was good hip-hop.  str8 up joe won but saigon put up a good fight, but he mos def needed to bring more heat, BUT HE DIDNT AND JOE DID HIS THANG

now to this war that joe has called for and started
-i grew up on wu tang clan and others but i was also around when joe made pump it up.  
point im tryna make is, i want red n meth take outrap joe but i really dont know if they can, but i bet they are approachin this as if they could and its no problem



yeah nah its not that i dont think havin the big ego is a bad thing
plain and simple if joe can take on and outrap anyone he thinks he can and does jus that, more power to him but theres some i dont think he can outrap, but i would like to be proven wrong
i mean joe is doin all this big talkin, he needs to try and make the battle or whatever happen not hypin this up and nuthin happens.
IMA SAY THIS, I HAVENT HEARD SO MUCH HYPE ABOUT 1 RAPPER IN YEARS, DAMN NEAR A DECADE
so the best way to duke it out would be to do a battle



thats waz up see ive given joey many chances at his muzik and his ego and
1.he overrates himself
2.he isnt that good

but at the same time he can bring some creative dope shit
but i mean hes sayin he can beat anyone on that list, thats a lil too much

You got to have a big ego. This is hip hop, otherwise rappers shit on you. Joe Budden is good though, but he can't beat everyone in the video. That's why he said he automatically takes the L when going up against Rakim. Lol. It is a little too much, but hell sometimes it feels good to shit talk. I like doing it when I am high. ;)

He'll battle if it comes down to it. Think of what he did to Saigon. Budden is a good dude at hyping himself. ;) He knows what he's doing. He's smart.

I'd like to see if they still have it, but I think in this case Budden might come at them with some Dum Out shit and just go ape shit on them but diss wise.

Indeed, great post. I repped you a few minutes ago, I will rep you again when I can.
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: westside159 on May 15, 2009, 06:01:47 PM
that new blackout 2 album is gonna be fire !!  just saw the new video on MTV ...  shit is tha bomb Redman & Meth bacc on they game .. 8) 8)
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 06:02:50 PM
THATS WAZ UP GOOD LOOKIN FOR HAVIN THE DEBATE MIKE
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: DTG Entertainment on May 15, 2009, 06:13:28 PM
THATS WAZ UP GOOD LOOKIN FOR HAVIN THE DEBATE MIKE

You as well. :)
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on May 15, 2009, 06:16:33 PM
damn im listenin to that new red n meth and damn joey might win this
im not sayin they fell off, but it seems different and not the same energy
damn joey might be safe
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2009, 06:50:52 PM
The two most notable acts out of Jersey.. Joey and Red....
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: dubsmith_nz on May 15, 2009, 07:45:12 PM
I hope meth tears his ass up, Joey talks a lot of smack, nothing hes done will ever compare to "All I Need" or shit the Wu dropped in their prime...

In saying that though, Joey is in his prime, and he may just black out (no pun intended) and rip meth a new one...
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on May 15, 2009, 08:14:23 PM
1) JOEY IS NOT IN HIS PRIME, as someone who has followed him.  AS FAR AS BATTLE RAPS AND PUNCHLINES, his prime was the Desert Storm days.  That is a NUMBER of years ago.

2) Method Man has also fell off a bit...  So it's even as far as "nowadays, in their prime" shit...

3) Joe would rip Meth...  Ransom would rip Meth.. Joe ripped Ransom.. What that say?  This ain't boxing....

Wait for the battle, or the songs..  This is the same argument going down right before Joe ripped Sai...
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: dubsmith_nz on May 15, 2009, 11:07:01 PM
Saying Ransom would rip meth, and joey did rip ransom as an argument is void, ransom never ripped meth so that comment is meaningless...

I havent followed Joey long, I've got his first album but the shit I've heard from him lately is leaps and bounds ahead of that so I just logically thought he'd come into his prime. Either way, Buddens got Sai, and the proof will be the battle...
Title: Re: The first punch is thrown by red and meth to joe!
Post by: Elano on May 16, 2009, 02:41:26 AM
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no i jerk off to your mother porns