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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Detox Iz Not Active on May 18, 2009, 09:12:29 AM
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every fucking joint (except the EM produced "Beautiful" bangs like mutha fukka. The she-thang still got
notable bangers:
My Mom
Bagpipes
Hello
Medicine Ball
Old Times
De ja Vu
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Relapse was definately bangin', I don't know if I would say it was the best in the last 7 years though. Dre arguably produced better tracks on Get Rich or Die Tryin' and The Documentary, which were both crazy albums sonically.
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:o :o
Had to check the user-name.. twice. :P
I would like to nominate the Underground-beat as well, when the beat fades away at the end you can hear some insane effects, like a choir is part of the beat.
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Yeah when I first heard Underground I was blown away at different parts, some real motion picture shit.
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Dre definately did his thing with the beats on Relapse
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I'd say best production on an album since 04/05. Documentary, Big Bang and some others had some crazy beats, but as a whole they are not even close to this one. Dre did his thing, and if this is a hint of what Detox will sound like, i'm all for it. First it was G-Funk, then the 2001 Piano's and Guitars sound, now some motion picture, choir & bass shit. This right here is the new dre sound.
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the thing with this album is that the ENTIRE album bangs, other albums like Big Bang, GRODT, had mad fillers on them and some real weak shit
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I'm sure some eastcoast albums have had much better production.
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Great production, BUT The Doctor's Advocate had better production, IMO.
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There are only two songs on Relapse I still give rotation.
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not really feeling the production on relapse a huge amount. this is a minority viewpoint, but i think its pretty flat sounding. if its even a small indicator of what detox will sound like, then that album will come in WAY, WAY below my expectations. at the moment i'm borderline thinking that dre has genuinely lost his touch, while still holding out hope that there will be some better sounds coming from his production camp.
hopefully relapse is just a one-off but at the moment i'm more interested in hearing an a-grade khalil production than a dre/dawaun parker/batson beat.
got a feeling that there's too many yes men, nobody to tell him that shit just isn't bumping compared to his previous work. but lol @ bishop lamont agreeing with that radio host that crack a bottle is 'horrible' :laugh: his album probably has some really good shit on it (dre wise) but at this rate we'll never get to hear it...
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the beats are mediocre homie, and that goes for nearly every new dre beat that aint got storch or elizondo co producing with him, i hate myself for saying this but 90% of down south beats shit on the production of relapse, it was realy nothing special, as far as "west coast" beats go now, the crown holder is j.r rotem, he's producing the beats i expect to come from dre
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:o :o
Had to check the user-name.. twice. :P
I would like to nominate the Underground-beat as well, when the beat fades away at the end you can hear some insane effects, like a choir is part of the beat.
Lol word, have to give props to LBIA for being objective. BTW I told Matty that he increases the volume of that Underground joint and he did but it didn't help much. Crazy effects though.
But yes I do agree, I've also said in Outbound that this is the best produced album since 2001. There's no doubt in my mind about that.
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not really feeling the production on relapse a huge amount. this is a minority viewpoint, but i think its pretty flat sounding. if its even a small indicator of what detox will sound like, then that album will come in WAY, WAY below my expectations. at the moment i'm borderline thinking that dre has genuinely lost his touch, while still holding out hope that there will be some better sounds coming from his production camp.
hopefully relapse is just a one-off but at the moment i'm more interested in hearing an a-grade khalil production than a dre/dawaun parker/batson beat.
got a feeling that there's too many yes men, nobody to tell him that shit just isn't bumping compared to his previous work. but lol @ bishop lamont agreeing with that radio host that crack a bottle is 'horrible' :laugh: his album probably has some really good shit on it (dre wise) but at this rate we'll never get to hear it...
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you just had to mention detox, It's time we END this DETOX Shit.......UNTIL DRE Himself starts PROMOTING IT !!!
but as for the album, the shit hits hard but if you have a sorry ass system that cant pick up the low kicks then i feel sorry for u !
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To me...The Big Bang and Doctors Advocate is the top 2. Fave track on Relapse tho is Stay Awake!
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not really feeling the production on relapse a huge amount. this is a minority viewpoint, but i think its pretty flat sounding. if its even a small indicator of what detox will sound like, then that album will come in WAY, WAY below my expectations. at the moment i'm borderline thinking that dre has genuinely lost his touch, while still holding out hope that there will be some better sounds coming from his production camp.
hopefully relapse is just a one-off but at the moment i'm more interested in hearing an a-grade khalil production than a dre/dawaun parker/batson beat.
got a feeling that there's too many yes men, nobody to tell him that shit just isn't bumping compared to his previous work. but lol @ bishop lamont agreeing with that radio host that crack a bottle is 'horrible' :laugh: his album probably has some really good shit on it (dre wise) but at this rate we'll never get to hear it...
No disrespect Matty, you know I respect your opinion but lately your Dre comments have been real suspect. Like you have this alien, 3020 expectations from him but then you when Khalil or Quik drop really weak shit you're like "it's banging!". I feel like the direction you want from Dre is either unrealistic (those techno inspired songs you sent me via pm) or you have a wierd taste (caliming Shit Popped Off is what Detox should sound like, when the beat is mad boring).
And fuck what Bishop said, Crack A Bottle beat >> Grow Up or No Stopping Carson
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fuck that :laugh:
best dre beats since 2001 = outta control rmx, get up, shit popped off (based on how it sounds in skeleton form)
they are the tracks that really got my head nodding 8)
and i never claimed no wack shit from quik or khalil was all that, although there's been some disagreements on a few khali tracks. 'hey playa' and 'fuck y'all' are fire!!! 8)
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:o :o
Had to check the user-name.. twice. :P
lol
It's true, Dre did his thang on this one. Medicine Ball & Bagpipes From Baghdad sound seriously bangin on the big speakers.
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not really feeling the production on relapse a huge amount. this is a minority viewpoint, but i think its pretty flat sounding. if its even a small indicator of what detox will sound like, then that album will come in WAY, WAY below my expectations. at the moment i'm borderline thinking that dre has genuinely lost his touch, while still holding out hope that there will be some better sounds coming from his production camp.
hopefully relapse is just a one-off but at the moment i'm more interested in hearing an a-grade khalil production than a dre/dawaun parker/batson beat.
got a feeling that there's too many yes men, nobody to tell him that shit just isn't bumping compared to his previous work. but lol @ bishop lamont agreeing with that radio host that crack a bottle is 'horrible' :laugh: his album probably has some really good shit on it (dre wise) but at this rate we'll never get to hear it...
No disrespect Matty, you know I respect your opinion but lately your Dre comments have been real suspect. Like you have this alien, 3020 expectations from him but then you when Khalil or Quik drop really weak shit you're like "it's banging!". I feel like the direction you want from Dre is either unrealistic (those techno inspired songs you sent me via pm) or you have a wierd taste (caliming Shit Popped Off is what Detox should sound like, when the beat is mad boring).
And fuck what Bishop said, Crack A Bottle beat >> Grow Up or No Stopping Carson
I don't think Bishop was hating on the Crack A Bottle beat. It was a nice beat but the song overall sucked, mostly because of the terrible chorus.
No Stoppin Carson >> Crack A Bottle >> Grow Up
and that's rating the beat. Grow Up was a better song than Crack A Bottle
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Deja Vu on the speaker system = :o 8)
dope song as well
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and you must not listen to a lot of hip hop albums if you think Relapse is the best produced album in years.
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There definately are some heaters on this but in general this is NOT the best produced cd since in the last 6 -7 years and is definately not the best cd top to bottom since 2001. There is music past dre for y'all just to inform you. I know the thread starter knows this through all the stuff he says about dre but the production on documentary is better and more original than this. This has some great moments but its not amazing in terms of production at all from top to bottom and alot of the beats are recycled.
Still some real heated beats.
Insane, bagpipes, stay wide awake, underground = Top beats, but dre has made better shit.
Last real detox moment from dre was start from scratch imo in alot of ways, the beat was a monster and dre and storch did there thing. They mix that super professional sound with banging beats. Problem is i doubt they work together at all now and his new team are starting to find some team but im not sure they're as gifted as he previous cats. Even on relapse, elizondo dre beats usually seem to bang the most but he was not even the best cat in dres team when dre was making fire on a regular. The production even on cheers is arguebaly better than this.
Definately not the best produced cd since 2001 but there are some nice moments on this.
I doubt detox will sound like this, dre will im sure have fresh shit beats wise on that with a big sound to it, this is alot of dre tracks where some bang but its shit we've heard from dre many times, nothing new mostly imo.
pz
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Nothing wrong with Grow Up at all, dope beat to spark a blunt to. It wasn't supposed to be a banger, and it wasn't, some dudes expect every Dre beat to be Outta Control though.
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At Matty >> if there's one thing we agree on is the Outta Control remix being the best Dre beat post 2001 so let's leave it at that :)
At Rapsodie >> I must have misunderstood what Matty said about Biishop rating Crack A Bottle, I thought we were talking beat wise. Grow Up is definitely the best song out of those 3.
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Dre was recycling on Documentary too: Westside Story >> mix of In Da Club and Still Dre and Higher >> Outta Control. Start From Scratch was an amazing production though, no doubt.
And let's not forget while albums like GRODT, Doc, Massacre, Big Bang were all sick production wise they all had 10 different producers, which automatically looses the battle with cohesive vibe that Relapse has.
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:o :yikes:
Whats today's date? April 1st? I thought we were in May already? LongBeach is giving Dre props?
:o Your hater pass is revoked til Detox drops.
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in todays day, having many producers on an album does not matter anymore because its become the norm. Aslong as there is an executive producer who can quality control (they dont come better than dre at this) it wont effect an album aslong as the production is heat. Even relapse production wise has moments of differences. I definately agree with the rapsodie cat that this is NOT the best production at all.
I agree about westside story having a similar sound to/influence to in da club in some ways but the production on that was better top to bottom than this, a bigger sound too imo. How we do/higher/start from scratch etc and some of the other shit on that album, i think the production on that was better. Cheers imo>>relapse in terms of production. Music outside of aftermath releases have better production than this too. I do like the production on relapse though, no hate!
pz!
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Dre was recycling on Documentary too: Westside Story >> mix of In Da Club and Still Dre and Higher >> Outta Control. Start From Scratch was an amazing production though, no doubt.
Westside Story = west coast In Da Club
Higher = west coast Outta Control
Hard Liquor = west coast If I Can't
At least to my ears anyway. All of them were still dope bangers though.
By the way, I think people were talking about Hard Liqour in a topic a while ago, I got the track on my phone if people were wanting it uploaded.
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personally i didnt think the production was all that great...it wasnt what it was hyped to be. He's had 5 years to sort this album and lets be honest its not that great..the beats and tracks are not all that memorable.
iv already stopped bumping it cause theirs better stuff out.
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BTW I don't think that this is how Detox will sound. I mean it will but even bigger. He's giving us a taste with Em's and probably 50's new album, like he did with Snoop's before 2001 dropped. It's much better than the boring loops he's been dropping after Big Bang. Because you have to remember that back in 03-05 all those Dre beats were also superb because he scrapped Detox and was giving his artists tracks straight from the album. Right now he's dropping 70% finished joints. That's at least how I picture it.
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cheers was some time ago but the direction on that album was great. the set-up was a monster beat!
his new drum sounds are a lot clearer and crisper but i don't think they've really found the best musical direction for it yet. relapse has some great moments but on the whole all over the place and the basslines are seriously lacking. it just hasn't got the funk/head nodding factor...
outta control rmx - monster low bassline, crisp drums
get up - big metallic low-end and thump, crisp live drum effects
shit popped off - crisp live drum effects, smooth bassline
most of all these tracks have seriously infectious rhythms 8)
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:o :yikes:
Whats today's date? April 1st? I thought we were in May already? LongBeach is giving Dre props?
:o Your hater pass is revoked til Detox drops.
lol, Long beach was never really a hater ;)
he was just a bitter fan
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alot of yall dont know what the fuck yall are talkin about when it comes to production.
picture it without the vocals because i know for plenty of wanna be critics the vocals make the production. so stick to the program ya critic :)
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I do agree about the bassline, the bass on Must Be The Ganja is really weak.
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that's gotta be sarcastic :laugh:
its a strange kind of bassline though, that papoose joint has a similar kind of thing going on. the beat for 'must be the ganja' is a high point on the album though, that shit bangs 8)
and NauticaICE are you trying to say that vocals don't matter in production? if your considering the vocals then your a 'wanna be' critic? :laugh:
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:o :o
Had to check the user-name.. twice. :P
I would like to nominate the Underground-beat as well, when the beat fades away at the end you can hear some insane effects, like a choir is part of the beat.
You damn right! The Choir is crazy :o sounds like a Score or something
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talking about dre my last favorite beats from him are from tha blue carpet treatment "boss's life" and "imagine" were crazy
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especially 'imagine' 8)
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when talking about production why do people only ever talk about the beat? and never about the vocals over the top and how dre gets the mc to rap in the pocket each and every time? beats = production but production dosent = the beat, listen to how the strings can act as a bridge to the corus and how the post hooks are layed.
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waste of dre beats fuck eminem dude is corny and boring.
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waste of dre beats fuck eminem dude is corny and boring.
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:oi:
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waste of dre beats fuck eminem dude is corny and boring.
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the thing is though, EM tore them up
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waste of dre beats fuck eminem dude is corny and boring.
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the thing is though, EM tore them up
What happened here? I never expected to see anything from this thread in your text. Lol.
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So today I actually bought the album, and without question this album smacks like no album in a long time in the car
"Hello" is ridiculously nice
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So today I actually bought the album, and without question this album smacks like no album in a long time in the car
"Hello" is ridiculously nice
Have your expectations risen for Detox after hearing Relapse?
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I'm also thinking of buying the album, which will be the first since God knows when. I'm gonna wait another month for the replay value but I have to say that after listening to it for 1 week on mp3 player and then for another in the car, the only track I skip is Insane because he's screaming like a retard on it. The rest is still so fresh and every day a new track is my favorite, right now it's Bagpipes. Album is amazing sonically.
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I agree with LBIA. +1
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So today I actually bought the album, and without question this album smacks like no album in a long time in the car
"Hello" is ridiculously nice
Have your expectations risen for Detox after hearing Relapse?
They have not risen, because I know the guest list will be wack as it will basically be a pop guest list. EM hasn't been this focused on an album since MMLP
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
u got to remember theres a lot of 13 year old euro's and peckerwoods on here that know better camron's "crime pays" is better than this and im sure clyde carsons ep will shit on this too....
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
u got to remember theres a lot of 13 year old euro's and peckerwoods on here that know better camron's "crime pays" is better than this and im sure clyde carsons ep will shit on this too....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNW7QdM2Kw8
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
u got to remember theres a lot of 13 year old euro's and peckerwoods on here that know better camron's "crime pays" is better than this and im sure clyde carsons ep will shit on this too....
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As soon as some1 says they like Eminem that automaticlly makes them 13 years old and European, some of you are so small minded its unreal
And so what if some1 is from Europe, does that discredit there opinion??
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
u got to remember theres a lot of 13 year old euro's and peckerwoods on here that know better camron's "crime pays" is better than this and im sure clyde carsons ep will shit on this too....
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As soon as some1 says they like Eminem that automaticlly makes them 13 years old and European, some of you are so small minded its unreal
And so what if some1 is from Europe, does that discredit there opinion??
yes, obliviously, they don't ship good music over here ::)
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Damn I can't get over that Bagpipes for Baghdad beat, shit is HEAT. Game, Crooked I, G Malone, Ya Boy, etc etc need to rip this shit up. How the fuck are you gonna talk about Nick Cannon on a beat like this??
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
u got to remember theres a lot of 13 year old euro's and peckerwoods on here that know better camron's "crime pays" is better than this and im sure clyde carsons ep will shit on this too....
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As soon as some1 says they like Eminem that automaticlly makes them 13 years old and European, some of you are so small minded its unreal
And so what if some1 is from Europe, does that discredit there opinion??
yes, obliviously, they don't ship good music over here ::)
obliviously?
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"Legend Of The Fall Offs" best produced track like ever
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lol...everyone hated relapse when it first leaked. What happened?
u got to remember theres a lot of 13 year old euro's and peckerwoods on here that know better camron's "crime pays" is better than this and im sure clyde carsons ep will shit on this too....
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1) get off this board and
2) go eat your cookies and apple juice little child
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every fucking joint (except the EM produced "Beautiful" bangs like mutha fukka. The she-thang still got
notable bangers:
My Mom
Bagpipes
Hello
Medicine Ball
Old Times
De ja Vu
she-thang MAYBE THAT'S YOU
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every fucking joint (except the EM produced "Beautiful" bangs like mutha fukka. The she-thang still got
notable bangers:
My Mom
Bagpipes
Hello
Medicine Ball
Old Times
De ja Vu
she-thang MAYBE THAT'S YOU
check the sig, LMAO @ you getting heated over the truth
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Yup, no denying that Dre did his thing. The beats bang on Relapse, from cover to cover.
But what I'm loving the most with the production on Relapse is the fact that there's a coherent and steady sound going on throughout the album. Like there were back in the days - the advantage of having one producer do the whole album, I guess. I really wish that style of making records would come back - not get one beat from everybody who's hot, but just get one dude or team do the whole record. You'd get the effect that an album isn't just a collection of songs but those songs form a whole - not only thematically, but sonically also.
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underground is insane to me. On some monster type shit. Dunno gonna give the album a couple more spins and buy it a bit later. The underground beat seems to switch speed during the verse and soo many dope affects, its exactly what i love from dre beats.
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Yup, no denying that Dre did his thing. The beats bang on Relapse, from cover to cover.
But what I'm loving the most with the production on Relapse is the fact that there's a coherent and steady sound going on throughout the album. Like there were back in the days - the advantage of having one producer do the whole album, I guess. I really wish that style of making records would come back - not get one beat from everybody who's hot, but just get one dude or team do the whole record. You'd get the effect that an album isn't just a collection of songs but those songs form a whole - not only thematically, but sonically also.
that's the main reason why the album flows so well, and it doesn't hurt that it's Dre doing the all the beats
not since chronic 2001 have I felt this type vibe
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dre says he ain't ashamed of that pic - those were costumes the Wrecking Crew had
what a hater
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Relapse is the shit tho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIJmYnXtm3Y&feature=related
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Dre is a genius when it comes to doing whole albums.
What was surprising for me is that there a bunch of beats unexpectedly didn't sound like the usual Dre. but to me that show how good he is cause it was purposely done to conform to the album's concept/
This is avery conceptual album. I think that flew over a lot of people's head, which is why they asking for songs like Closet, The Way I Am etc.. It wasn't about that. I think Relapse 2 will have more songs like those.
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You know, at first I was really kind of dissapointed, but after my 4th and 5th go through im starting to really get a better feel for the album. Its not like a normal Em album at all, I think that is what really threw me from the get go! Dre really makes the album, Ems lyrics are on point most of the time but Dre carries it with the beats I believe. And you guys are right about Underground, that crazy shit in the background is just insane! Classic production, its growing on me more with each listen!
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You know, at first I was really kind of dissapointed, but after my 4th and 5th go through im starting to really get a better feel for the album. Its not like a normal Em album at all, I think that is what really threw me from the get go! Dre really makes the album, Ems lyrics are on point most of the time but Dre carries it with the beats I believe. And you guys are right about Underground, that crazy shit in the background is just insane! Classic production, its growing on me more with each listen!
Dre did his thing on this, but if EM was rapping like he did on Encore album would be shit.
I wish Dre did entire albums again, his last one was 10 years ago and before that was Doggystyle (Aftermath Presents doesn't count)
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yeah i think beat wise its eminems best album ..
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I agree also. I like the production on this album.
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album still bumpin strong, glad I bought this
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Yup, no denying that Dre did his thing. The beats bang on Relapse, from cover to cover.
But what I'm loving the most with the production on Relapse is the fact that there's a coherent and steady sound going on throughout the album. Like there were back in the days - the advantage of having one producer do the whole album, I guess. I really wish that style of making records would come back - not get one beat from everybody who's hot, but just get one dude or team do the whole record. You'd get the effect that an album isn't just a collection of songs but those songs form a whole - not only thematically, but sonically also.
Agreed mate. I love this album, i mean i've only givin it a few listens but the production imediately stood out to me. I feel the same as you and i've described the album like that to others. The album might not have an outstanding amount of absolute bangers that just stand the fuck out and are smash hits BUT, the album has a real steady and consistant flow, it just works, it sounds and feels right.
I love the production, it dose vary but not in a way that interupts the feel, i showed the album to a fellow hip hop head i know and he was also quite impressed.
I was amazed, the amount of hate the album seems to have recived an bad reviews has me shocked. I admit the songs that leaked i thought were good not great but they have grown on me and the album really dose have that old school feel.
Its alomost one rapper one producer, what other commercial rapper can do that?
I think Eminem is good on this album also, by far his best album since marshal mathers(sp?).
i was pleasantly suprised, so good to see dre so heaverly involved in one project and i cant recal an album sounding so consistant in a long time.
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almost a month later and I can say this: album is a modern classic
Top EM albums
1. MMLP
2. Relapse
3. EM Show
4. SSLP
5. Shitcore
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hahah, can't believe people actually like this album. Good production, but that's about it.
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Compared to the last album Dre produced 95% of the tracks, the production on Relapse is real lackluster. Good, not mind blowing in the least.
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yeah the beats were nice , except for maybe a couple that were just alright , like old times sake i thought could of came with something better . Dre needs to bring the Synths bacc like that sound on the first Chronic album , thats what im waiting for . That Funk
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almost a month later and I can say this: album is a modern classic
Top EM albums
1. MMLP
2. Relapse
3. EM Show
4. SSLP
5. Shitcore
Good joke, Em Show & SSLP shits all over this. This is a modern good album = a few years ago it woulda been wack.
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Dre did an amazing job on Relapse for Eminem, really helped the album out a lot, in my opinon.
but imagine what 50's album is going to sound like esspecially concidering 50 is in demand for bangin' beats to sound good on songs.
Eminem didn't need the "bangin'" beats, he could have made a great album with softer, but still awesome Dre beats.
50 needs the bangers & i think Dre is going to make Before I Self-Destruct sick! :o
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Dre did an amazing job on Relapse for Eminem, really helped the album out a lot, in my opinon.
but imagine what 50's album is going to sound like esspecially concidering 50 is in demand for bangin' beats to sound good on songs.
Eminem didn't need the "bangin'" beats, he could have made a great album with softer, but still awesome Dre beats.
50 needs the bangers & i think Dre is going to make Before I Self-Destruct sick! :o
Yeah if everything sticks to plan it looks like 50 will have heavy Dre production, Relaspe II the same and it will all come to a crescendo when or if Detox drops lol. Already this year alone with just Relaspe having all these Dre beats other than when 2001 was out I can't remember a time when Dre has been this busy.
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Dre did an amazing job on Relapse for Eminem, really helped the album out a lot, in my opinon.
but imagine what 50's album is going to sound like esspecially concidering 50 is in demand for bangin' beats to sound good on songs.
Eminem didn't need the "bangin'" beats, he could have made a great album with softer, but still awesome Dre beats.
50 needs the bangers & i think Dre is going to make Before I Self-Destruct sick! :o
Yeah if everything sticks to plan it looks like 50 will have heavy Dre production, Relaspe II the same and it will all come to a crescendo when or if Detox drops lol. Already this year alone with just Relaspe having all these Dre beats other than when 2001 was out I can't remember a time when Dre has been this busy.
he hasn't been, i mean he's worked on GRODT, Encore & The Documentary & then maybe one track for one rapper like every six months or so, but he's been quiet other than that.
he did Relapse, now is working on BISD, Relapse II, his own album & The Reformation(?) lol.
dude is workin' hard in the studio, but if he keeps up that bangin' production like on Relapse; 50's album will sound so much better than some of his previous works.
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Dre did an amazing job on Relapse for Eminem, really helped the album out a lot, in my opinon.
but imagine what 50's album is going to sound like esspecially concidering 50 is in demand for bangin' beats to sound good on songs.
Eminem didn't need the "bangin'" beats, he could have made a great album with softer, but still awesome Dre beats.
50 needs the bangers & i think Dre is going to make Before I Self-Destruct sick! :o
Yeah if everything sticks to plan it looks like 50 will have heavy Dre production, Relaspe II the same and it will all come to a crescendo when or if Detox drops lol. Already this year alone with just Relaspe having all these Dre beats other than when 2001 was out I can't remember a time when Dre has been this busy.
he hasn't been, i mean he's worked on GRODT, Encore & The Documentary & then maybe one track for one rapper like every six months or so, but he's been quiet other than that.
he did Relapse, now is working on BISD, Relapse II, his own album & The Reformation(?) lol.
dude is workin' hard in the studio, but if he keeps up that bangin' production like on Relapse; 50's album will sound so much better than some of his previous works.
He COMPLETELY changed his whole production style once he signed Em and that IMO for me at least made me look at him as a more well rounded producer. Instead of having just west coast sounding bangers, which is not a bad thing, he could make more darker tracks or light hearted tracks for Em. I do not expect ANYTHING like Relaspe on 50's album. In fact that is why I said I am tired of 50 trying to remake In The Club. Dre also made 50 alot of darker tracks as well, like Heat or Back Down. He needs to get back to that sound. Em's beats fit 50 well along with Lloyd Banks in that regard too.
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Dre did an amazing job on Relapse for Eminem, really helped the album out a lot, in my opinon.
but imagine what 50's album is going to sound like esspecially concidering 50 is in demand for bangin' beats to sound good on songs.
Eminem didn't need the "bangin'" beats, he could have made a great album with softer, but still awesome Dre beats.
50 needs the bangers & i think Dre is going to make Before I Self-Destruct sick! :o
Yeah if everything sticks to plan it looks like 50 will have heavy Dre production, Relaspe II the same and it will all come to a crescendo when or if Detox drops lol. Already this year alone with just Relaspe having all these Dre beats other than when 2001 was out I can't remember a time when Dre has been this busy.
he hasn't been, i mean he's worked on GRODT, Encore & The Documentary & then maybe one track for one rapper like every six months or so, but he's been quiet other than that.
he did Relapse, now is working on BISD, Relapse II, his own album & The Reformation(?) lol.
dude is workin' hard in the studio, but if he keeps up that bangin' production like on Relapse; 50's album will sound so much better than some of his previous works.
He COMPLETELY changed his whole production style once he signed Em and that IMO for me at least made me look at him as a more well rounded producer. Instead of having just west coast sounding bangers, which is not a bad thing, he could make more darker tracks or light hearted tracks for Em. I do not expect ANYTHING like Relaspe on 50's album. In fact that is why I said I am tired of 50 trying to remake In The Club. Dre also made 50 alot of darker tracks as well, like Heat or Back Down. He needs to get back to that sound. Em's beats fit 50 well along with Lloyd Banks in that regard too.
that's what's great about Dre: he can make stuff specifically for a certain artist :)
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
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you dudes need to stop living in the past
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every fucking joint (except the EM produced "Beautiful" bangs like mutha fukka. The she-thang still got
notable bangers:
My Mom
Bagpipes
Hello
Medicine Ball
Old Times
De ja Vu
u new fans ears for music is shit...this has to be the worst lp.of the year. :(
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
Yeah I sorta agree. He can't have another MMLP or SSLP or even TES. I mean Encore = his weakest album, this is basically better then Encore, but weaker then then The Eminem show. I mean his album strengths sorta go MMLP>SSLP>TES>Relapse>Encore. Because MMLP was his highest selling, had his best lyrics, and was pretty raw on some fronts. SSLP is what brought him to fame, had crazy lyrics and was just him before the controversy.The Eminem Show was basically him trying to make deeper music (Sing for the Moment, Cleaning out my closet), and turning down for a softer tone. Then Encore....well everything on that was just simple....Weakest album by far.
Then you got Relapse which while going though the numbers:Homosexuals,Shock Lyrics,Drug Abuse being the major factor on this 1, his mom, and possibly KIM on relapse 2. His Rhymes are better then Encore, the Production is better then Encore, but are pretty much on the same level as The Eminem Show.The Lyrics are similar to The Slim Shady LP, but are not as good in comparison, like I said its pretty much better then Encore, but not as strong as The Eminem Show. Basically a 2009 Eminem show IMO. Relapse 2 can possibly be a better album.
Though I have to admit, Song's like Beautiful is pretty much what the Album Could of been, if he didn't take his Safe zone for granted. Its sorta like 2001, The Entire album could of been like "The Message" if he didn't go into his Safe zone of Gangsta Rap norms. Its still good (both of em are) I mean If he had gone this route, he could of possibly has his own MATW type thing going on. Relapse 2 sounds like it will be more Chaotic and raw, based off the last track.
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i dont understand why people like this album? just because dre produced all of his songs? I mean comon.. did you ever expect eminem and dre album to be this boring/weird/average to say the best
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
Yeah I sorta agree. He can't have another MMLP or SSLP or even TES. I mean Encore = his weakest album, this is basically better then Encore, but weaker then then The Eminem show. I mean his album strengths sorta go MMLP>SSLP>TES>Relapse>Encore. Because MMLP was his highest selling, had his best lyrics, and was pretty raw on some fronts. SSLP is what brought him to fame, had crazy lyrics and was just him before the controversy.The Eminem Show was basically him trying to make deeper music (Sing for the Moment, Cleaning out my closet), and turning down for a softer tone. Then Encore....well everything on that was just simple....Weakest album by far.
Then you got Relapse which while going though the numbers:Homosexuals,Shock Lyrics,Drug Abuse being the major factor on this 1, his mom, and possibly KIM on relapse 2. His Rhymes are better then Encore, the Production is better then Encore, but are pretty much on the same level as The Eminem Show.The Lyrics are similar to The Slim Shady LP, but are not as good in comparison, like I said its pretty much better then Encore, but not as strong as The Eminem Show. Basically a 2009 Eminem show IMO. Relapse 2 can possibly be a better album.
Though I have to admit, Song's like Beautiful is pretty much what the Album Could of been, if he didn't take his Safe zone for granted. Its sorta like 2001, The Entire album could of been like "The Message" if he didn't go into his Safe zone of Gangsta Rap norms. Its still good (both of em are) I mean If he had gone this route, he could of possibly has his own MATW type thing going on. Relapse 2 sounds like it will be more Chaotic and raw, based off the last track.
LOL, do you really think so?
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
Yeah I sorta agree. He can't have another MMLP or SSLP or even TES. I mean Encore = his weakest album, this is basically better then Encore, but weaker then then The Eminem show. I mean his album strengths sorta go MMLP>SSLP>TES>Relapse>Encore. Because MMLP was his highest selling, had his best lyrics, and was pretty raw on some fronts. SSLP is what brought him to fame, had crazy lyrics and was just him before the controversy.The Eminem Show was basically him trying to make deeper music (Sing for the Moment, Cleaning out my closet), and turning down for a softer tone. Then Encore....well everything on that was just simple....Weakest album by far.
Then you got Relapse which while going though the numbers:Homosexuals,Shock Lyrics,Drug Abuse being the major factor on this 1, his mom, and possibly KIM on relapse 2. His Rhymes are better then Encore, the Production is better then Encore, but are pretty much on the same level as The Eminem Show.The Lyrics are similar to The Slim Shady LP, but are not as good in comparison, like I said its pretty much better then Encore, but not as strong as The Eminem Show. Basically a 2009 Eminem show IMO. Relapse 2 can possibly be a better album.
Though I have to admit, Song's like Beautiful is pretty much what the Album Could of been, if he didn't take his Safe zone for granted. Its sorta like 2001, The Entire album could of been like "The Message" if he didn't go into his Safe zone of Gangsta Rap norms. Its still good (both of em are) I mean If he had gone this route, he could of possibly has his own MATW type thing going on. Relapse 2 sounds like it will be more Chaotic and raw, based off the last track.
LOL, do you really think so?
If Dr. Dre can keep Detox on everyone's fucking mind with out saying shit 4 so long, I think anything is possible.
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every fucking joint (except the EM produced "Beautiful" bangs like mutha fukka. The she-thang still got
notable bangers:
My Mom
Bagpipes
Hello
Medicine Ball
Old Times
De ja Vu
u new fans ears for music is shit...this has to be the worst lp.of the year. :(
go back and bump your gucci maine
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
Yeah I sorta agree. He can't have another MMLP or SSLP or even TES. I mean Encore = his weakest album, this is basically better then Encore, but weaker then then The Eminem show. I mean his album strengths sorta go MMLP>SSLP>TES>Relapse>Encore. Because MMLP was his highest selling, had his best lyrics, and was pretty raw on some fronts. SSLP is what brought him to fame, had crazy lyrics and was just him before the controversy.The Eminem Show was basically him trying to make deeper music (Sing for the Moment, Cleaning out my closet), and turning down for a softer tone. Then Encore....well everything on that was just simple....Weakest album by far.
Then you got Relapse which while going though the numbers:Homosexuals,Shock Lyrics,Drug Abuse being the major factor on this 1, his mom, and possibly KIM on relapse 2. His Rhymes are better then Encore, the Production is better then Encore, but are pretty much on the same level as The Eminem Show.The Lyrics are similar to The Slim Shady LP, but are not as good in comparison, like I said its pretty much better then Encore, but not as strong as The Eminem Show. Basically a 2009 Eminem show IMO. Relapse 2 can possibly be a better album.
Though I have to admit, Song's like Beautiful is pretty much what the Album Could of been, if he didn't take his Safe zone for granted. Its sorta like 2001, The Entire album could of been like "The Message" if he didn't go into his Safe zone of Gangsta Rap norms. Its still good (both of em are) I mean If he had gone this route, he could of possibly has his own MATW type thing going on. Relapse 2 sounds like it will be more Chaotic and raw, based off the last track.
LOL, do you really think so?
If Dr. Dre can keep Detox on everyone's fucking mind with out saying shit 4 so long, I think anything is possible.
the thing is, Eminem & Dre want Relapse II to sell, so you already know what the first single is going to be like.
not to mention that the horrible vocals will be all over Relapse II.
besides, Eminem doesn't like making a lot of dark tracks.
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What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
Main thing: NO accent. lol
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
Yeah I sorta agree. He can't have another MMLP or SSLP or even TES. I mean Encore = his weakest album, this is basically better then Encore, but weaker then then The Eminem show. I mean his album strengths sorta go MMLP>SSLP>TES>Relapse>Encore. Because MMLP was his highest selling, had his best lyrics, and was pretty raw on some fronts. SSLP is what brought him to fame, had crazy lyrics and was just him before the controversy.The Eminem Show was basically him trying to make deeper music (Sing for the Moment, Cleaning out my closet), and turning down for a softer tone. Then Encore....well everything on that was just simple....Weakest album by far.
Then you got Relapse which while going though the numbers:Homosexuals,Shock Lyrics,Drug Abuse being the major factor on this 1, his mom, and possibly KIM on relapse 2. His Rhymes are better then Encore, the Production is better then Encore, but are pretty much on the same level as The Eminem Show.The Lyrics are similar to The Slim Shady LP, but are not as good in comparison, like I said its pretty much better then Encore, but not as strong as The Eminem Show. Basically a 2009 Eminem show IMO. Relapse 2 can possibly be a better album.
Though I have to admit, Song's like Beautiful is pretty much what the Album Could of been, if he didn't take his Safe zone for granted. Its sorta like 2001, The Entire album could of been like "The Message" if he didn't go into his Safe zone of Gangsta Rap norms. Its still good (both of em are) I mean If he had gone this route, he could of possibly has his own MATW type thing going on. Relapse 2 sounds like it will be more Chaotic and raw, based off the last track.
LOL, do you really think so?
If Dr. Dre can keep Detox on everyone's fucking mind with out saying shit 4 so long, I think anything is possible.
the thing is, Eminem & Dre want Relapse II to sell, so you already know what the first single is going to be like.
not to mention that the horrible vocals will be all over Relapse II.
besides, Eminem doesn't like making a lot of dark tracks.
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didn't you plan to respond to the quote?
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didn't you plan to respond to the quote?
I did! LOL look up, I forgot to scroll down. Its in the second qoute. LOL I'm a little blunted.
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can the (real) parrots please stand up?
Cause I'm selling out! ALL YOU OTHER RAPPERS ARE JUST IMITATING!!! oh wait.... (Crack a bottle:Club Single, No Deep Content, pop track....) >> lol
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didn't you plan to respond to the quote?
I did! LOL look up, I forgot to scroll down. Its in the second qoute. LOL I'm a little blunted.
ah, i didn't notice it before.
What I'm wondering is if there are any non- Em f(st)ans who thought this was a good album. Like people who like some of his music but don't have all of his albums. I'm really surprised there are people at all who think this is a great album and are comparing it to his previous releases. If this isn't a mediocre album at best then I don't know what is. How bad of an album does Em have to release for these people to admit its not good?
It was good but not up to par with MMLP or Eminem Show IMO
At least you will admit that its a disappointment compared to his other albums. People use the excuse that "oh every other mainstream album sucks so this is a good album by comparison." No, its still trash. Its better trash than some other albums but its still trash for Em standards.
Lol, I would not say all that. I enjoyed the album. I did not go into it expecting a MMLP or anything else. I try to keep a open mind and separate each album a artist puts out. As long as I enjoy it then cool. Relaspe is a good album, not so sure if I consider it great but a very good album.
Yeah I sorta agree. He can't have another MMLP or SSLP or even TES. I mean Encore = his weakest album, this is basically better then Encore, but weaker then then The Eminem show. I mean his album strengths sorta go MMLP>SSLP>TES>Relapse>Encore. Because MMLP was his highest selling, had his best lyrics, and was pretty raw on some fronts. SSLP is what brought him to fame, had crazy lyrics and was just him before the controversy.The Eminem Show was basically him trying to make deeper music (Sing for the Moment, Cleaning out my closet), and turning down for a softer tone. Then Encore....well everything on that was just simple....Weakest album by far.
Then you got Relapse which while going though the numbers:Homosexuals,Shock Lyrics,Drug Abuse being the major factor on this 1, his mom, and possibly KIM on relapse 2. His Rhymes are better then Encore, the Production is better then Encore, but are pretty much on the same level as The Eminem Show.The Lyrics are similar to The Slim Shady LP, but are not as good in comparison, like I said its pretty much better then Encore, but not as strong as The Eminem Show. Basically a 2009 Eminem show IMO. Relapse 2 can possibly be a better album.
Though I have to admit, Song's like Beautiful is pretty much what the Album Could of been, if he didn't take his Safe zone for granted. Its sorta like 2001, The Entire album could of been like "The Message" if he didn't go into his Safe zone of Gangsta Rap norms. Its still good (both of em are) I mean If he had gone this route, he could of possibly has his own MATW type thing going on. Relapse 2 sounds like it will be more Chaotic and raw, based off the last track.
LOL, do you really think so?
If Dr. Dre can keep Detox on everyone's fucking mind with out saying shit 4 so long, I think anything is possible.
the thing is, Eminem & Dre want Relapse II to sell, so you already know what the first single is going to be like.
not to mention that the horrible vocals will be all over Relapse II.
besides, Eminem doesn't like making a lot of dark tracks.
Main thing: NO accent. lol
that would definitely make Relapse II more listenable.
whether that's enough is questionable.
can the (real) parrots please stand up?
Cause I'm selling out! ALL YOU OTHER RAPPERS ARE JUST IMITATING!!! oh wait.... (Crack a bottle:Club Single, No Deep Content, pop track....) >> lol
LOL if you think Crack a bottle is bad, then what about Cum On Everybody
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Im not a eminem fan much at all. I liked marshall mathers lp a lot but after that i got bored of em with the eminem show n the encore. Thing I didnt like about TES is some of the songs where he tried to act all hard n go gangsta on us like the song soldier I just can't take him seriously when he is actually trying to be hard and he aint joking about it. encore was just crap with all the accents he used and jibberish lyrics. So when i heard crack a bottle n we made you i didnt expect much from relapse but the first time i heard the album i was cutting my hair n was blown away with some of the production then i started listening to the lyrics n he was on point too like with the jam stay wide awake thats off the hook flowing. I know he does the accent thing a bunch on this album too but this time it actually worked for me. So all in all i think its a real good album and was taken by suprise with it. I dig it a lot more the then blaqkout album and i been a quik fan forever and still am. I just judge each cd as a individual album rather then who its coming from....ok bring the heat im sure i'll get tore for this haha
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the beats were the only descent part of the album
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Albums incredible!