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Title: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: E-Crazy on June 25, 2009, 02:56:33 PM
He's in the hospital, TMZ reporting Death. Lets hope not.........
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: bad-n-fluenz supporter of the dangerous crew movement on June 25, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
i just saw this...thats some crazy shit!
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Post by: MediumL on June 25, 2009, 03:02:28 PM
o shit i hope not  :(
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Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 03:06:08 PM
FUCK TMZ, they better be fuckin' wrong.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: bad-n-fluenz supporter of the dangerous crew movement on June 25, 2009, 03:07:54 PM
FUCK TMZ, they better be fuckin' wrong.

from what i see their the only site reporting him dead
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on June 25, 2009, 03:09:10 PM
FUCK TMZ, they better be fuckin' wrong.

from what i see their the only site reporting him dead

i think they just report shit like that, cus if theyre wrong everybodies so happy about it...that they dont give a shit about the false report. But if theyre right, they can say "as first reported on TMZ!"
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
FUCK TMZ, they better be fuckin' wrong.

from what i see their the only site reporting him dead

i think they just report shit like that, cus if theyre wrong everybodies so happy about it...that they dont give a shit about the false report. But if theyre right, they can say "as first reported on TMZ!"

Exactly, that's all they want.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: stephen619 on June 25, 2009, 03:15:21 PM
Child molesters get no love from me.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: In A Real Way on June 25, 2009, 03:16:30 PM
Child molesters get no love from me.

moron
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Rick McCrank on June 25, 2009, 03:18:04 PM
my mom works at a hospital, she said he's over in one in Westwood

she said she was told he died
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Citizen-Y on June 25, 2009, 03:22:08 PM
RIP the King of Pop
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: G-Funk on June 25, 2009, 03:24:24 PM
NOW they're saying he's in a coma...
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Post by: M Dogg™ on June 25, 2009, 03:26:55 PM
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/pop-star-michael-jackson-was-rushed-to-a-hospital-this-afternoon-by-los-angeles-fire-department-paramedics--capt-steve-ruda.html


 :'(
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: In A Real Way on June 25, 2009, 03:29:44 PM
CBS & LA Times both confirm he's dead.
nnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Invincible on June 25, 2009, 03:37:39 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31552029/ns/entertainment-music/
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Invincible on June 25, 2009, 03:38:47 PM
Shit. R.I.P.
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Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 03:39:55 PM
Coma..
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on June 25, 2009, 03:40:54 PM
Coma..


are you okay, man? it's not your dad..
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: OchoCinco on June 25, 2009, 03:43:18 PM
ye i was listenin to the radio and a bunch of credible news networks are saying he has died but cnn still is reporting he is in a coma.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Rick McCrank on June 25, 2009, 03:43:45 PM
Coma..


are you okay, man? it's not your dad..

haha they have fuckin press conferences and like a million places reporting he's dead and the guy can't accept it

it's really not that big a fuckin deal....
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: G-Funk on June 25, 2009, 03:46:14 PM
Okay, now I truly believe he is dead.

Now,
R.I.P.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Okka on June 25, 2009, 03:53:06 PM
Rest In Peace.
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Post by: No Compute on June 25, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
I came in here expecting a new album called Cardiac Arrest.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 04:13:50 PM
Coma..


are you okay, man? it's not your dad..

haha they have fuckin press conferences and like a million places reporting he's dead and the guy can't accept it

it's really not that big a fuckin deal....

Yet, it's all similar heads in these similar threads...hmmm.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: MediumL on June 25, 2009, 04:18:26 PM
Fuckin legend. GOAT! - RIP

Damn....... :'(
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Moe on June 25, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
good riddance
Title: (Audio) Michael Jackson - Billy Jean (R.I.P)
Post by: 5Starruk on June 25, 2009, 04:30:24 PM
Show some respect for the King of Pop..

http://uploading.com/files/TJTU8CFP/MichaelJackson-03-BillieJean.mp3.html
Title: Re: (Audio) Michael Jackson - Billy Jean (R.I.P)
Post by: Bch on June 25, 2009, 04:32:18 PM
SO NOW IS IT GOING TO BECOME SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE TO PLAY MICHAEL JACKSON REALLY LOUD?

i refuse to.. i feel bad for his kids.. show some respect by donating to a foundation for his kids.. may peace be with the whole jackson family.
Title: Re: (Audio) Michael Jackson - Billy Jean (R.I.P)
Post by: Portugoal on June 25, 2009, 04:32:28 PM
Show some respect for the King of Pop..

By bootlegging his music eh? (http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/Themes/dubcc/images/post/thumbup.gif)
Title: Re: (Audio) Michael Jackson - Billy Jean (R.I.P)
Post by: No Compute on June 25, 2009, 04:38:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/mPlyPR0V1lw
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: E-L-P on June 25, 2009, 04:52:08 PM
RIP to Michael Jackson.

Dude was an Icon, his musical legacy will live on.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 25, 2009, 05:25:09 PM
RIP to Michael Jackson.

Dude was an Icon, his musical legacy will live on.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: R1ZE on June 25, 2009, 06:12:55 PM
imo the greatest voice in music

the greatest dancer

rest in peace.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Shallow on June 25, 2009, 06:48:43 PM
RIP


I may not have been his hugest fan musically, but I still liked the tunes and had respect for his impact on pop culture. Poor guy.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: jeromechickenbone on June 25, 2009, 07:04:50 PM
RIP to a legend.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 25, 2009, 07:15:14 PM
MJ definatly influenced all those boybands in the 90's & all these new guys comin' up breakin' out moves; like Chris Brown.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 25, 2009, 07:17:13 PM
One of my biggest influences, inspirations and child hood heroes.

In 2007, some of you may recall I got way back into Michael's work. Trauma and myself had many discussions about his work and life around that time...I don't know him obviously, but Michael Jackson means alot to me in many ways.

I was at work when NIK texted me this info. I had actually just been reading about Michael Jordan and I know NIK is huge into b-ball so I was like 'which MJ?' and another friend hours earlier in the day, totally coincidentally texted me about how he was looking for Jackson Browne's (great west coast singer-songwriter, from the 70's, y'all should check him out) "doctor my eyes" and stumbled upon a Jackson 5 version of it...then that same friend was the one who told me he died.

My eyes teared up as I told my co-worker I needed to take a break...I still do...

MJ influenced a fuck load more than boy bands and Chris Brown. West coast hip-hop, hell...hip hop and r and b as we know them would not exist if not Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones, and Rod Temperton.

R.I.P.

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on June 25, 2009, 07:19:44 PM
Man this shit is sad news. Its shocking news, its crazy. I remember hearing about his comeback tour in london doing the 50 shows in july and i thought that would be great for him and his fans.

One of the greatest artists ever and so much of his music is timeless.

I cant think of a cat who has reached more countries with his music than michael jackson. Bar none. Asia, africa, europe etc, everwhere, dude is pure legend.

RIP

Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 25, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
^i was hearin' that he just stressed himself out over that tour.

somebody said, he was only a couple of pounds over 100; not good. :-\
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 07:32:30 PM
I done saved $1,000 a while, while, while back in hopes too see him one day on tour. Becuz I knew tickets was gonna be madd gwap. When he announced 'This Is It', I gots real happy, figuring son will be in Amercia after that. FUCK! R.I.P.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 25, 2009, 07:34:19 PM
I came in here expecting a new album called Cardiac Arrest.

I'll admit...hilarious. +1


-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: The Predator on June 25, 2009, 07:45:23 PM
Quote
Every morning he (Dr Dre) comes in the studio and says, “Okay fellas, today could be the day we write Thriller.”
- Mike Elizondo
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 25, 2009, 08:07:23 PM
+1 Pred.

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on June 25, 2009, 08:14:14 PM
RIP to a legend.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Moe on June 25, 2009, 08:37:23 PM
I done saved $1,000 a while, while, while back in hopes too see him one day on tour. Becuz I knew tickets was gonna be madd gwap. When he announced 'This Is It', I gots real happy, figuring son will be in Amercia after that. FUCK! R.I.P.
i wrote this for you.


i saved up money for years so i could fufill my life long dream of seeing michael jackon live. he died today. fml
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 25, 2009, 08:38:41 PM
what is fml?

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Moe on June 25, 2009, 08:50:23 PM
fuck my life
http://www.fmylife.com/
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: OchoCinco on June 25, 2009, 09:06:36 PM
All jokes and everything aside.

One of the Greatest died today. RIP Micheal. :-\
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 09:26:34 PM
I done saved $1,000 a while, while, while back in hopes too see him one day on tour. Becuz I knew tickets was gonna be madd gwap. When he announced 'This Is It', I gots real happy, figuring son will be in Amercia after that. FUCK! R.I.P.
i wrote this for you.


i saved up money for years so i could fufill my life long dream of seeing michael jackon live. he died today. fml

Oh, why thanks son, I appreciate that.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Moe on June 25, 2009, 09:29:28 PM
I done saved $1,000 a while, while, while back in hopes too see him one day on tour. Becuz I knew tickets was gonna be madd gwap. When he announced 'This Is It', I gots real happy, figuring son will be in Amercia after that. FUCK! R.I.P.
i wrote this for you.


i saved up money for years so i could fufill my life long dream of seeing michael jackon live. he died today. fml

Oh, why thanks son, I appreciate that.
its all on you to post it.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 09:37:02 PM
I done saved $1,000 a while, while, while back in hopes too see him one day on tour. Becuz I knew tickets was gonna be madd gwap. When he announced 'This Is It', I gots real happy, figuring son will be in Amercia after that. FUCK! R.I.P.
i wrote this for you.


i saved up money for years so i could fufill my life long dream of seeing michael jackon live. he died today. fml

Oh, why thanks son, I appreciate that.
its all on you to post it.

They already got MJ posts on there though. LMAO. You're crazy homie, lol.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Jimmy H. on June 25, 2009, 09:48:38 PM
It's so hard to believe that Michael Jackson is dead. No matter how many times I hear it.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 25, 2009, 09:51:09 PM
It's so hard to believe that Michael Jackson is dead. No matter how many times I hear it.

I hear you on that.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: herpes on June 25, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
Karma is a bitch
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: 'EclipZe on June 25, 2009, 09:52:49 PM
oh shit, we just lost another legend... :(

RIP
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Lunatic on June 25, 2009, 10:34:06 PM
oh shit, we just lost another legend... :(

RIP
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on June 25, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
This is horrible news. Just woke up and saw the news on BBC. It's hard to believe that he's just die suddenly like that taking into consideration that he was just 50.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: TRG on June 25, 2009, 11:29:01 PM
R.I.P to an absolute legend.
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Post by: Muhfukka on June 25, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
It's hard to believe that he's just die suddenly like that taking into consideration that he was just 50.
what do you mean look at that guy hes had so many fucked up surgeries that shit can not be healthy. plus hes been in a wheelchair for a while
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: -CaliKid- on June 26, 2009, 01:33:43 AM
It's so hard to believe that Michael Jackson is dead. No matter how many times I hear it.

I hear you on that.

For real...Don't know what else to say but R.I.P. Michael Jackson  :'(
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on June 26, 2009, 01:34:58 AM
the thriller video's even scarier now ;D
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on June 26, 2009, 04:22:53 AM
Crazy shit, he had this big comeback planned, the 'This Is It' tour, I heard sumthin about a reunion show with all the Jackson's.

R.I.P

I agree with Muhfukka tho. All those surgeries, n u knoe he was stressin hard cuz he was in debt(last I heard he owed around 300 million)
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: westside159 on June 26, 2009, 04:50:02 AM
SAD SAD SAD MOMENT IN HISTORY PERIOD . R.I.P MICHEAL JACKSON   AKA THA THRILLER   TELL THEM THAT ITS HUMAN NATURE ....
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Post by: K.Dub on June 26, 2009, 05:14:30 AM
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs094.snc1/4955_121134960179_702630179_3371175_4886957_n.jpg)
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Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on June 26, 2009, 06:01:59 AM
RIP true legend, idol of few generations....media teared him apart through last years.
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Post by: GimmeYourShoes on June 26, 2009, 06:42:53 AM
Crazy shit. Michael Jackson took over entirely the Top 15 current best sellers in music of Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/music-rock-classical-pop-jazz/b/ref=sa_menu_mu1?ie=UTF8&node=5174&pf_rd_p=328655101&pf_rd_s=left-nav-1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1TKSNP83MD0NT9GMTT80
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Post by: Moe on June 26, 2009, 06:46:49 AM
Crazy shit. Michael Jackson took over entirely the Top 15 current best sellers in music of Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/music-rock-classical-pop-jazz/b/ref=sa_menu_mu1?ie=UTF8&node=5174&pf_rd_p=328655101&pf_rd_s=left-nav-1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1TKSNP83MD0NT9GMTT80
i bet amazons happy he died.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 26, 2009, 06:59:48 AM
^ So are news stations, their ratings are prolly as high as they were during the trial.
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Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 26, 2009, 08:13:15 AM
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs094.snc1/4955_121134960179_702630179_3371175_4886957_n.jpg)

dope. 8)
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 26, 2009, 08:20:54 AM
All I can say is: R.I.P. to one of the greatest entertainers of our lifetime.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Moe on June 26, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
All I can say is: R.I.P. to one of the greatest entertainers of our lifetime.
and i bet you were there too.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: 5Starruk on June 27, 2009, 03:56:13 AM
(http://cdnll-1.liveleak.com/s/15/media15/2009/Jun/27/LiveLeak-dot-com-5d4f29aeb015-michael_jackson_rus_448213m.jpg?h=9f6d50b73279c71a938c9075e4322828&e=1246704115&rs=150)
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Blasphemy on June 27, 2009, 05:37:32 AM
(http://cdnll-1.liveleak.com/s/15/media15/2009/Jun/27/LiveLeak-dot-com-5d4f29aeb015-michael_jackson_rus_448213m.jpg?h=9f6d50b73279c71a938c9075e4322828&e=1246704115&rs=150)
Looks all fucked up...DOPE  ::)
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 27, 2009, 06:09:48 AM
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: 5Starruk on June 27, 2009, 06:36:04 AM
There was a Bell Air Tour Bus passing as it was all taking place..
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 27, 2009, 08:52:02 AM
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.

tryna make that quick buck with newspapers. :-\
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Elano on June 27, 2009, 01:32:48 PM
Spiritual teacher and medical doctor Deepak Chopra said Saturday he had been concerned since 2005 that Michael Jackson was abusing prescription painkillers and most recently spoke to the pop star about suspected drug use six months ago.Chopra said Jackson, a longtime friend, asked him for painkillers in 2005 when the pop star was staying with him following his trial on sex abuse allegations.

Chopra said he refused but added the nanny of Jackson's children repeatedly contacted him with concerns about Jackson's drug use over the next four years.
He said she told him a number of doctors would visit Jackson's homes in Santa Barbara County, Los Angeles, Miami and New York.
Whenever the subject came up, Jackson would avoid Chopra's calls, Chopra said.

Meanwhile, Janet Jackson arrived at her brother Michael's Holmby Hills estate, where moving vans arrived earlier in the day.
Janet Jackson, wearing dark glasses, drove up in a Bentley and went directly to the estate. About eight movers had taken dollies and packing equipment through the gates. It wasn't immediately known what was being taken out.

Most of Michael Jackson's family members had gathered in their Encino compound, where they were contemplating funeral arrangements and caring for his three children. They are feeling confused, upset and angry by the lack of information about those who were around the pop superstar in his final days, a person close to the family told The Associated Press.

Jackson's family wants to know more specifics about what role AEG, the concert promoter that was staging his 50-date concert series at London's 02 Arena, was playing in his life, said the person, who requested anonymity because of the delicate nature of the situation. They also want to know more about the role of his advisers and representatives, who they believe were put in place by the promoter.

AEG spokeswoman Natalie Whorms in London had no comment.

Jackson never communicated to his family who he had in place to handle his business affairs, the person said, adding that they were told by the singer's phalanx of advisers that he likely had a will, but it may be many years old. The family is distrustful of what they are being told — but they are determined to find out more, the person said.
"There are decisions going down without the family being in the loop; it's becoming an issue," the person said.

Randy Phillips, AEG Live president and chief executive, said Friday that it was Jackson who insisted that Dr. Conrad Murray, a financially troubled cardiologist who was with the entertainer when he collapsed Thursday, be put on the tour payroll.

"As a company, we would have preferred not having a physician on staff full-time because it would have been cheaper without the hotels and travel, but Michael was insistent that he be hired," Phillips said. "Michael said he had a rapport with him."

Jackson collapsed Thursday at his rented home in Los Angeles. Police seized Murray's car in search of evidence, but have insisted that the doctor has been cooperative and do not consider him a criminal suspect.

Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray, who practices medicine in California, Nevada and Texas; his Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments, and he faces at least two other pending cases and several tax liens.

The person close to the family said that while there were reports that the singer was distant from his family, Jackson spoke with his mother, Katherine, quite regularly and his father, Joe, had seen his son shortly before his death. His other eight siblings, including fellow superstar Janet, may not have talked to him recently but were not estranged.
Much of the family was holed up Friday inside the Jackson family's Encino compound, including his three children, according to the person, who described them as doing "pretty good."

"I don't think it's fully set in yet," the person said.

The pop star left behind three children: Michael Joseph Jackson Jr., known as Prince Michael, 12; Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11; and Prince Michael II, 7. The elder children were born to ex-wife Deborah Rowe, while the youngest is his biological son, born to a surrogate mother.

Rowe and Jackson married in 1996 and divorced in 1999.

No family members were present in the mansion when Jackson died Thursday, the person close to the family said. In the call to the emergency dispatcher released by fire officials Friday, an unidentified caller tells a dispatcher that Jackson's doctor is performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

Asked by the dispatcher whether anyone saw what happened, the caller answers: "No, just the doctor, sir. The doctor has been the only one there."

Coroner's officials said they released Jackson's body to his family late Friday night. The family is still trying to determine what kind of memorial to have for Jackson and when, and are debating between the idea of having a private ceremony or a grand celebration open to the public, the person close to the family said.

Jackson appeared to have suffered a heart attack, another person with knowledge of the situation who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity told the AP on Friday. A heart attack is a blocking of the arteries that deprives the heart of adequate blood and can cause cardiac arrest.

Jackson's brother Jermaine said Thursday that it was believed the pop singer went into cardiac arrest, an interruption of the normal heartbeat that can be caused by factors other than a heart attack.

The Los Angeles County coroner's office, which completed its autopsy Friday, said there were no signs of foul play or trauma, but determining the cause of death will require further tests that will take six to eight weeks.

Phillips said AEG Live held multiple insurance policies covering cancellation of the shows, and that some time in February Jackson submitted to several hours of physicals that the insurance underwriter insisted upon, and that Jackson passed them all.

"We had pretty good coverage, but a lot of it is going to depend on the toxicology results," he said. "We need to know what the cause of death was."
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Elano on June 27, 2009, 01:36:07 PM
Pop music critic Robert Hilburn recalls the years when the public turned its back on the singer. 'I'm lonely,' a 23-year-old Jackson said

I'll always regret that my last conversation with Michael Jackson ended with him angrily hanging up the phone -- at least I've long thought of Michael's mood that day more than a decade ago as angry. I realize now that a more accurate description would be "wounded."

Michael was among the sweetest and most talented people I met during 35 years covering pop music for the Los Angeles Times.

I was fortunate to be present at many of his proudest moments. I was in the audience the night in 1983 that he unveiled the electrifying Moonwalk on the Motown TV special and in the studio in 1985 for the all-star "We Are the World" recording session. I was with him at the Jackson family home in Encino soon after he purchased the Beatles song catalog in 1985.

Michael struck me as one of the most fragile and lonely people I've ever met. His heart may have finally stopped beating Thursday afternoon, but it had been broken long ago.

During weekends I spent with him on the road during the Jacksons' "Victory" tour in 1984, I learned that he was so traumatized by events during his late teens -- notably the rejection by fans who missed the "little" Michael of the Jackson 5 days -- that he relied desperately on fame to protect him from further pain. In the end, that overriding need for celebrity was at the root of his tragedy.

I first met Michael in the early days of the Jackson 5 at the family home in Los Angeles, and the memory that stands out is that Michael, as cute and wide-eyed as an 11-year-old could be, was eager to get through the interview so he could watch cartoons before having to go to bed.

When I caught up with him a decade later, his personality had changed radically. That happy-go-lucky kid was nowhere to be found.

Michael's sales had fallen off dramatically in the mid-1970s, and by the time he reemerged with the hit "Off the Wall" album in 1979, he was scarred emotionally. There's often a gap between a performer's public and private sides, but rarely was it as noticeable as with Michael.

Sitting at the rear of the tour bus after a triumphant concert in St. Louis in 1981, Michael was anxious, frequently bowing his head as he whispered answers to my questions. In contrast to the charismatic, strutting figure on stage, he wrestled with a Bambi-like shyness. Despite the resurgence in his popularity, he complained of feeling alone -- almost abandoned. He was 23.

When I asked why he didn't live on his own like his brothers, rather than at his parents' house, he said, "Oh, no, I think I'd die on my own. I'd be so lonely. Even at home, I'm lonely. I sit in my room and sometimes cry. It is so hard to make friends, and there are some things you can't talk to your parents or family about. I sometimes walk around the neighborhood at night, just hoping to find someone to talk to. But I just end up coming home."

That's as far as Michael could go that night to explain his deep-rooted anguish. It would be four more years before he was willing to tell me more.

Michael had signed a book deal with Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, an editor at Doubleday, before the "Victory" tour, and he wanted me to help him write it. I spent several weekends on the road with him during the tour. I soon discovered that Michael -- who guarded his privacy at all costs -- wanted to put together a picture book, while Onassis wanted a full-scale biography.

After a showdown between the two, Michael's longtime attorney and friend John Branca called to thank me for my efforts and said Doubleday was going in a different direction. My involvement ended.

During our time together, my conversations with Michael sometimes led -- once the tape recorder was off -- to darker moments from his past. One night when we were going through a stack of old photos, a picture of him in his late teens triggered a sudden openness.

"Ohh, that's horrible," he said, recoiling from the picture.

Michael explained that his face was so covered with acne and his nose so large at that time that visitors to the family home in Encino sometimes wouldn't recognize him. "They would come up, look me straight in the eye and ask if I knew where that 'cute little Michael' was." It was as if the "whole world was saying, 'How dare you grow up on us.' "

Michael said he started looking down at the floor when people approached or would stay in his room when visitors came to the house.

Michael vowed to do whatever it took to make people "love me again." The rejection fueled his ambition to be the biggest pop star in the world and to try to make his face beautiful. Unfortunately, Michael's need was so great that no amount of love seemed to be enough.

The stage was his sanctuary. There, he was larger than life and no one could threaten him. Every time he left the stage, he said, he felt vulnerable again.

In the 1981 interview, he told me, "My real goal is to fulfill God's purpose. I didn't choose to sing or dance. But that's my role, and I want to do it better than anybody else. I still remember the first time I sang in kindergarten class. I sang 'Climb Every Mountain,' and everyone got so excited.

"It's beautiful at the shows when people join together. It's our own little world. For that hour and a half, we try to show there is hope and goodness. It's only when you step back outside the building that you see all the craziness."

Michael's hunger for fame and success struck me as increasingly obsessive and unhealthy.

Even though 1982's "Thriller" was the biggest-selling album of all time, Michael told me one night that his next album would sell twice as many copies. I thought he was joking, but he had never been more serious.

As years went by, I watched with sadness as his music went from the wonderful self-affirmation and endearing spirit of "Thriller" to something increasingly calculated and soulless. His impact in the marketplace waned accordingly. It appeared that his desperate need for ultra stardom -- the "King of Pop" proclamation -- and his escalating eccentricities made it difficult for audiences to identify with him.

Even some of his "Thriller" fans were ultimately turned off. In the public mind, he went from the "King of Pop" to the "King of Hype."

When I surveyed leading record industry executives in 1995 to determine pop's hottest properties, Michael wasn't in the top 20.

One executive said flatly: "The thing he doesn't understand is that he'd be better off in the long run if he made a great record that only went to No. 20 than if he hyped another mediocre record to No. 1. The thing he needs is credibility."

Another executive said simply that Michael was "over."

Michael was furious when he called me the day after the story ran in The Times.

How could I betray him by writing such lies?

Couldn't I see the record executives were just jealous?

I tried gently to tell him that I thought there was some truth in what the executives were saying and that he had lost touch with the qualities that once made him so endearing.

"That hurts me, Robert," he said, his voice quivering.

I felt bad.

I started to say that he could be as big as ever if he would only . . . , but I couldn't complete the sentence.

Michael hung up.

After that, I followed his life from a distance -- the child molestation charges, the battle with painkillers, the marriage to Lisa Marie Presley, the increasingly bizarre lifestyle.

Although he would periodically announce recording projects or touring plans, I couldn't imagine, after all the humiliation and disappointment, that Michael could find the strength to step in front of the public again. I thought the fear of failure was too great. It was easier to stay in a fantasy land.

So I was surprised when he announced that he was returning to the stage in a few weeks and was even more surprised when he sold out 50 nights at the O2 Arena in London.

Maybe Michael was stronger than I thought. It took enormous courage to be willing to go back on stage for what could be a make-or-break moment -- and the ticket demand must have given him hope. Despite all that had happened, he saw that he was still loved by millions of fans.

In the best scenario, Michael, 50, would have triumphed in London, not only erasing his mountain of debt but also restoring to himself the sense of invincibility that fame represented. Failure in those shows, however, could have left him even more wounded and vulnerable.

As the July dates neared, I imagined Michael's anxiety mounting day by day, even hour by hour. There must have been days when he felt he could do it, could reclaim his crown with a series of breathtaking performances and stand forever alongside Elvis Presley and the Beatles in pop music lore.

But what if he was wrong?

What if he wasn't strong enough, physically and emotionally? What if he couldn't live up to expectations?

What if no amount of adulation could make him feel safe again?

The stress must have been immense -- and maybe in the end it was too much for his broken heart.

Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Elano on June 27, 2009, 01:37:05 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson-911-ss,0,1120964.htmlstory
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Post by: Tanjential on June 27, 2009, 01:37:47 PM
i've seen deepak chopra speak at live events. he's amazing and brilliant.

-T
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Post by: 1980DRE on June 27, 2009, 01:50:51 PM
God should have just taken Bobby Brown!!!!
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Post by: OchoCinco on June 27, 2009, 02:10:14 PM
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.

tryna make that quick buck with newspapers. :-\

nah i seen in the video when there was a tour goin past his house n the ambulance was outside u could see a photographer go right to the back windows of the ambulance and snappin pics.
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Post by: QuietTruth on June 27, 2009, 02:13:42 PM
People is sad.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on June 28, 2009, 01:46:43 AM
I was actually a block UCLA Ronald Reagan Medical Center when he showed up (the med school is across the street. I had no idea what happened until I got to my room and saw what happened. Then I rushed down to the hospital, but it was a media shit storm so I just went back to my room.

I still can't believe it. I practically worshiped the guy when I was a kid. Smooth Criminal was and still is my favorite video of all time.
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Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on June 28, 2009, 04:01:25 AM
So while tryin' to bring him back to life, one EMT pulls out his camera? Damnnnnn.

tryna make that quick buck with newspapers. :-\

nah i seen in the video when there was a tour goin past his house n the ambulance was outside u could see a photographer go right to the back windows of the ambulance and snappin pics.
Yea its pretty obvious by the picture n the reflection of that red car.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Chamillitary Click on June 28, 2009, 07:49:16 AM
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

point is, for 6-7 years he has been dead to most as a musician & became a world-wide joke; he past away & people act like their his biggest fan ever & they act like they gave a shit what he did for the last 8 years lol.

not aiming this at anyone on this board, i just mean in general for the world.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 28, 2009, 04:18:41 PM
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

Exactly. That's what I've been bitchin' to people about this whole weekend. Fuckin' hypocrites who follow hype.
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Post by: Muhfukka on June 28, 2009, 05:39:55 PM
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

point is, for 6-7 years he has been dead to most as a musician & became a world-wide joke; he past away & people act like their his biggest fan ever & they act like they gave a shit what he did for the last 8 years lol.

not aiming this at anyone on this board, i just mean in general for the world.
not me, its still fuck that fruitcake to me. he was groundbreaking as an entertainer but as far as a person on this earth, fuck him.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 28, 2009, 05:44:58 PM
exactly therefore FUCK THA INDUSTRY




yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

Exactly. That's what I've been bitchin' to people about this whole weekend. Fuckin' hypocrites who follow hype.
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Post by: herpes on June 28, 2009, 05:57:32 PM
yo if you really think about it, whether you liked his music or not when he was the shit; for the past 6-7 years or so everybody and their mother has been SHITTING on him for things. been made fun of in movies & shit, comedy skits, etc.; now he unfortunaltly passed away & everybody has been praising him like their favorite person in the world just died.

point is, for 6-7 years he has been dead to most as a musician & became a world-wide joke; he past away & people act like their his biggest fan ever & they act like they gave a shit what he did for the last 8 years lol.

not aiming this at anyone on this board, i just mean in general for the world.

Shows the hypocrisy of society.  White people got off tearing him down b/c white people love tearing down black celebs.  Blacks turned there back on him when he turned into a white woman. He has been a running joke for 15 + years now.  Now everyone loves him again because of death, shows how fucked up society is as a whole.
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Post by: Tanjential on June 28, 2009, 06:03:49 PM
what does this have to do with white people? miss me with that.


anyway, you can check my post records, i've been speaking good on Michael for a long time


-T
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Post by: Shallow on June 28, 2009, 06:11:22 PM
what does this have to do with white people? miss me with that.


anyway, you can check my post records, i've been speaking good on Michael for a long time


-T


Yes you have, and so has Trauma (wherever he is), but I think he was referring to people in general. It's only natural. I used to get in some heated battles about how overrated he was. I don't have the desire to lash out at him now. I always liked his music, a lot, but I never bought into him like some of his fans on here did. It just didn't do it for me like Dylan or Springsteen did, but before I'd be up in arms defending my point. Now I just can't muster up the energy.

He was such a big part of my childhood. Knowing he is gone forever makes everything feel a bit off. I bash the Hulkster in debates as mich as anyone, but if he croaked tomorrow I'd feel bad.
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Post by: QuietTruth on June 28, 2009, 06:26:46 PM
It's the reporters that are the worst. Weakminded mainstream America is one issue. Becuz people are gonna be people, but the fuckin' journalists, them who ARE the media, is what takes it to another level. Now that I've turned on CNN and MSNBC, these 'news analysts' are the same exact one's who, of course, followed the 2005 trial on Court TV, the people who sat before a camera in front of the courthouse who bashed the man, about his appearance, nose this, nose that, molester this, molester that, now ya'll are in some kind of state of mourning, falling over dude's achievements and talkin' on how he was a good man. Good man?? Bitch, you wrote a damn book about the dude in a negative way. Now you gon' compliment him. Fuck outta here.


If you ain't like dude from day one, and still don't, good for you. Least you real wit yourself. Unlike these lames who flip quicker than I don't know what, what ever flips fast.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 28, 2009, 06:30:38 PM
exactly damn good lookin for this str8 up
they the same muffuccaz who talked shit for years and now all of a sudden hes a nice person or a legend?
nah hes always been a legend
even them fake fucks came outta the hidin again jesse jackson and al?
they only come outta the hidin when theres some sort of media type of shit goin on
how come bet werent playin his muzik all day before, but when he dies awww lets do a tribute
fuck you rocsi, fuck you terrence fuck you bet fuck you jimmy, fuck you interscope lol
FUCK THA INDUSTRY FOR LIFE



It's the reporters that are the worst. Weakminded mainstream America is one issue. Becuz people are gonna be people, but the fuckin' journalists, them who ARE the media, is what takes it to another level. Now that I've turned on CNN and MSNBC, these 'news analysts' are the same exact one's who, of course, followed the 2005 trial on Court TV, the people who sat before a camera in front of the courthouse who bashed the man, about his appearance, nose this, nose that, molester this, molester that, now ya'll are in some kind of state of mourning, falling over dude's achievements and talkin' on how he was a good man. Good man?? Bitch, you wrote a damn book about the dude in a negative way. Now you gon' compliment him. Fuck outta here.


If you ain't like dude from day one, and still don't, good for you. Least you real wit yourself. Unlike these lames who flip quicker than I don't know what, what ever flips fast.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 28, 2009, 06:34:48 PM
And who was the 1st, the FIRST, to do a press conference? Al Sharpen....like nigga who the fuck are you and who gives a flyin' fuck what you got to say? Whatever. I don't know.

It's not even that big of a deal, I guess. But when you're sittin' there tryin' to get details on somethang like this and you got these people with big opinions, and they flip floppin', becuz of unfortunate events, shit's just annoyin'.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 28, 2009, 06:37:01 PM
and ive been sayin FUCK THA INDUSTRY not jus cuz of this, but ive been sayin it for years but its cuz of shit like this
fuck buyin muzik and makin them rich

and then if awards gets bad ratings they gon blame it on "the special tribute" they had to do in honor of mj
FUCK YOU BET, HOPE YOU GET RAPED BY MJ'S SOUL WORSE THAN HE DEAD THEM LIL KIDS
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Post by: Sikotic™ on June 28, 2009, 09:14:03 PM
He's getting the Princess Diana treatment. They shit on you til you die and then everyone feels bad for you.
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 28, 2009, 09:21:01 PM
yeah he was white til now
now jaime foxx says he was black, he was their black not white
how come he wasnt black all the time, but now him n others are tryin eat off his fame?
fuckin industry bitchmades



He's getting the Princess Diana treatment. They shit on you til you die and then everyone feels bad for you.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 29, 2009, 12:08:53 AM
quiet, you remind me of the boondocks


-T
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Post by: Digital Pimpin' on June 29, 2009, 03:50:37 AM
He's getting the Princess Diana treatment. They shit on you til you die and then everyone feels bad for you.

That's not true; I stayed shittin on Diana after her death. Plus, she got a whole lot of positive attention in the media for many years for doing fuck all.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: LONDON!!! on June 29, 2009, 04:07:47 AM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Elano on June 29, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit

you can prove that he was a child molester ?  ::)

 :loco: @ the wholepost
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Shallow on June 29, 2009, 07:35:16 AM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit

you can prove that he was a child molester ?  ::)

 :loco: @ the wholepost


I was told that one of the kids testifying against him gave a detailed account of MJ's penis. Is that true?
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Elano on June 29, 2009, 07:37:04 AM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit

you can prove that he was a child molester ?  ::)

 :loco: @ the wholepost


I was told that one of the kids testifying against him gave a detailed account of MJ's penis. Is that true?

its just a bunch of bullshit,i think...
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Post by: Blasphemy on June 29, 2009, 10:17:11 AM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit

you can prove that he was a child molester ?  ::)

 :loco: @ the wholepost


I was told that one of the kids testifying against him gave a detailed account of MJ's penis. Is that true?

its just a bunch of bullshit,i think...

I never meet the nigga and even I can describe that shit:Glitter, permed and cut in the style of sherllly temple curls.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on June 29, 2009, 11:38:15 AM
Im not gonna front i was seriously gutted when i heard the news, MJ was my hero as a kid and i still followed the music up until now and will continue to do so . RIP.
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Post by: Tanjential on June 29, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
it ain't no conspiracy shit it's this:

If you're the biggest superstar in the world, people will be trying to hustle you, extort you, blackmail you, use you to get attention...whatever.

You should read about the families of the accusers. Almost all of them were known L.A families that harassed celebrities and trained their kids to do shit so they could sue people. They'd say their kids had cancer and shit so celebs would hang with them and then try to say the celebs did this and that.

Of course MJ's gonna be a target, he's the biggest target.

Furthermore, like around the time of one of the trials, the mom of one of the accusers shoplifted in an LA department store, got caught and tried to sue the store for saying the security guards roughed her up!! She tried to sue them!!

That's the kind of fuckers that were after Michael.

Chappelle put it best: anyone can describe a man's penis...a head, a shaft, a couple balls under there,some hair...maybe pressed or permed in this case but yeah...

and as far as the literature on that, yeah the kid described his penis somewhat and it was accurate enough to raise an eyebrow but not accurate enough to be like "this dude did it for sure".

I'm not saying he wasn't weird cause he was. But dude, if you got rich as fuck and people put your life under a microscope, you're telling me no one would see nothing weird?

we're all weird in some way or another....you know how they say the camera adds ten pounds?

I'm not saying he wasn't weird, but he didn't rape no kids.


-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 29, 2009, 10:42:38 PM
damn some real talk tanj and interestin points
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Post by: Tanjential on June 29, 2009, 10:46:15 PM
+1 thanks

check it out.

none of us knew Michael Jackson.

the whole media circus could have been just that, a media circus.

what we do know and what we do have, is his music and the memories we have to his music and out of respect for the source of those beautiful things, we mourn Michael's passing. That's all we can do. We would be arrogant fools to think we, as non-acquaintances of Michael Jackson, can do anything else, let alone judge his life and character.

Peace.

-T
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Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 29, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
yeah but the way the media, fans, etc.. are suckin up to him all of a sudden is sad and damn i usually dont use this word but "sick"
him goin to trial never go this much heat IMO
im still not sure if he did rape them kids, but assumin he didnt, where were they when he "needed" them?
jus a coincidence hes gon and now awwww he was my hero, he was this
I HOPE THEY DIE LISTENIN TO HIS MUZIK STR8 UP
(reminds me of scarface "git out my face")
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 29, 2009, 10:51:43 PM
yeah, i've been into Michael since I was a little kid. and you can check my posts, in 2007, i got back into Quincy Jones era MJ music in a big way.

him dying symbolizes a part of my childhood dying...that's all i'm saying. i'm not tryna say i knew and loved him and will miss his presence, cause i never had his presence.

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on June 29, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
i havent even been on this site that long enuff to state how long ive been a fan but thats besides the point
if your a fan, plain and simple your fan
but the way these muffuccaz outta nowhere, like they are happy this happened so they can get their fame and attention cuz they arent hot at the moment is sicker than anything mj would have amounted to bein sick, and as far as i know mj was different, but these muffuccaz are beyond sick
and im wit u on him dyin and a part of you dyin, same here
i listen to and always have been listenin to jackson moreso than wayne, jay-z, cube, nwa
i dont listen to that much rap and i dont like every single mj song but what he did noone will ever be able to do
EVEN HIS "WEIRD" SISTER CAME OUTTA THE HIDIN, bitch where were you earlier




yeah, i've been into Michael since I was a little kid. and you can check my posts, in 2007, i got back into Quincy Jones era MJ music in a big way.

him dying symbolizes a part of my childhood dying...that's all i'm saying. i'm not tryna say i knew and loved him and will miss his presence, cause i never had his presence.

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on June 30, 2009, 07:17:43 AM
Tanjential's on point.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Shallow on June 30, 2009, 09:23:55 AM

I'm not saying he wasn't weird, but he didn't rape no kids.



I never said he did, with any certainty. All those rich and famous points work just as well on the other side when it comes to being able to get away with shit. There's plenty of rich people that spend time with kids. You'd think the same vultures would drag them to court too.

I don't know what happened but you can't say one way or another either.


Here's something I found


"(as quoted in Taraborrelli's 2004 book "The Magic and the Madness".

It's also important to remember that his 1993 accuser, Jordan Chandler, was only given his $22 million settlement AFTER Michael Jackson's 25-minute strip-search revealed that the 13-year-old Chandler's specific description of Jackson's genitals (which includes "splotches" on his groin) matched the physical search.

To avoid being charged, Jackson, after his strip-search--IMMEDIATELY--settled the case with his accuser...and beat the rap. And CICATRIZ is right, after Jackson swiftly settled, California changed the law to prevent other settlements like this to not only uphold justice, but also to prevent potential extortion incidences which obscure the actual cases involved.

Chandler's father, Evan Chandler, is a despicable opportunist--and he's on record proving as much, but that doesn't negate the fact that the boy's description of Jackson's private parts. If your child's description of another grown man's genitals was a match, wouldn't you be understandably hell-bent on destroying the alleged-pervert too? Because aside from his physical description, there was also explicit details of their alleged activities which are too graphic to discuss here.
 
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 30, 2009, 06:36:11 PM
If I had to speculate...and I don't like to really, I think he did do inappropriate things but hear me out.

I think he had sleepovers, slumber parties, little kid Peter Pan/Disney themed events with tons of kids because he never got to be a kid.

Joe Jackson forced Michael to start performing with the Jackson 5 at age 4.

4.

By the time the Jackson 5 were signed to Motown, Michael was 10.

That's 6 years of work dude. He was working. Like I didn't till I was 17, you know? I mean yeah it's music, but he was still working...and imagine doing regimented work for pay as a fuggin' child.



He was trying to relive his childhood that he never got to have...and like Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, he may have been on some level ignorant/innocent to the taboo/negative perception of nudity, of the human body.

My worst suspicion but once more, I've never met this guy, is that perhaps his ignorance/innocence coupled with his great riches which allowed him such an insular undisturbed-by-outside society environment like Neverland Ranch was to such an extent that he took baths with these kids and there was points where nudity happened...but even if so, I don't think he molested/raped.

Once more, not saying there wasn't weirdness, and even what may be deemed inappropriate by most, but I really doubt penises went into mouths or anuses or anything like that. I think he just didn't know better and was so rich and insular that there were times when he would act on not knowing better without anyone who did there to stop him/advise him away from unwise behavior. I don't think he was drugging kids and doing things that would be bad for them or shit like that. But I'll admit, that's partly what I want to think, partly what the kind of patterns I pick up on have led me to, seeing and learning what I have seen and learned...we'll never really know.
Neverland is a fortress, probably wasn't no cameras.

Despicable opportunist...that does sound about right as far as his accusers from what I have learned.


-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: R1ZE on June 30, 2009, 08:57:51 PM
If you do your research on these cases it's obvious they're lies... the 1993 case was initially denied by the kid and still is by the mother... the father was admittedly jealous of michael's bond with the family... dude was a saint, he paid for the kids cancer treatments and then they turned around and sued him when they realized he wasnt gonna be there for them forever. The mother still denies that anything happened.

The 2003 case was complete bullshit. In that Bashir documentary the whole family attested that nothing inappropriate happened, and then when the world went crazy about kids in mjs bed they claimed he touched him AFTER the documentary came out. Shit makes no sense. Then go look at their past history - the mother trained the kids to rob best buy and had a case against the store's security saying they assaulted her. Later on she started claiming that they molested her too cause it leads to a bigger payout.

The dude was a kid at heart... sure he was fucked up psychologically but he didnt touch those kids. Look at all the celebrities that say they've either been with him (mccauley culkin) or left their kids with him (deepak chopra and tons of others) and say nothing happened... I wonder why?

Cause they dont need a handout.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on June 30, 2009, 09:02:10 PM
exactly.

it should go without saying that the fucking Napoleon of music, the biggest superstar sensation the world has ever seen is gonna have some epically huge horrible shit said about them in hopes of an epic pay out.

nothing was small and regular with MJ, it was all so epic.

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Shallow on June 30, 2009, 09:34:14 PM
I never called him a molester. I just think it's silly for you guys to testify like character witnesses for him. You'll never know what he was really like, no matter how many articles or books you read, or interviews you see.


I'll base the music on the music. If it turned up tomorrow that he was a serial killer the whole time and murdered pregnant teen girls I'd still think his music was pretty good at best, bland and mediocre at worst. If he resurrected tomorrow from the grave and cured lepers while walking on water I'd still think it was pretty good at best, bland and mediocre at worst.


I don't understand the need for fans of one's music to defend the artists character. I'm a huge Springsteen fan. I never bother getting into sell out or not sellout, or ego or no ego arguments. I really don't care what he's really like when it all comes down to it. I could meet tomorrow and he could spot on me and call me a loser and I'd still go home and listen to Backstreets with a smile on my face.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: R1ZE on June 30, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
I never called him a molester. I just think it's silly for you guys to testify like character witnesses for him. You'll never know what he was really like, no matter how many articles or books you read, or interviews you see.

Michael Jackson is a true humanitarian, an example to us all. He has devoted much time and money to a wide range of charities. He loves children and takes time out when touring secretly visting sick children. He also has special rooms at his home Neverland for sick and terminally ill children to stay over. He was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guiness Book Of World Records for breaking the world record for the "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star". It states that Michael Jackson has supported 39 charity organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or by participating in their silent auction.

We have made an alphabetical list of known charities that Michael Jackson has individualy supported publically throughout his career. Michael Jackson also helped set up Heal The World Foundation, the charities this has supported have not been listed. Read our Heal The World/kids page for details of this foundation.

clearly the man was a monster
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Elano on June 30, 2009, 10:51:47 PM
If you do your research on these cases it's obvious they're lies... the 1993 case was initially denied by the kid and still is by the mother... the father was admittedly jealous of michael's bond with the family... dude was a saint, he paid for the kids cancer treatments and then they turned around and sued him when they realized he wasnt gonna be there for them forever. The mother still denies that anything happened.

The 2003 case was complete bullshit. In that Bashir documentary the whole family attested that nothing inappropriate happened, and then when the world went crazy about kids in mjs bed they claimed he touched him AFTER the documentary came out. Shit makes no sense. Then go look at their past history - the mother trained the kids to rob best buy and had a case against the store's security saying they assaulted her. Later on she started claiming that they molested her too cause it leads to a bigger payout.

The dude was a kid at heart... sure he was fucked up psychologically but he didnt touch those kids. Look at all the celebrities that say they've either been with him (mccauley culkin) or left their kids with him (deepak chopra and tons of others) and say nothing happened... I wonder why?

Cause they dont need a handout.

 :(
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: LONDON!!! on July 01, 2009, 06:48:59 AM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit

you can prove that he was a child molester ?  ::)

 :loco: @ the wholepost

if you would leave your kids or younger brothers and sisters, nieces, nephews alone wit him, sleeping in the same bed as a old fucking man, then your fucking stupid and iresponsible, true stories, a fruitcake that dosen't deserve to have kids, for real

@everyone else
that chandler kid mj nonced in 93, dad's a rich doctor, he wern't some stupid gold digger, conman, using his kids to gold dig it wit mj
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: QuietTruth on July 01, 2009, 07:50:30 AM
Michael Jackson is a true humanitarian, an example to us all.

Exactly and word to the facts. Here's a dude who, regardless of what people gotta say, dedicated his life to helping people. And this is the mutherfuckin' thanks he got?


Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Shallow on July 01, 2009, 08:51:32 AM
I never called him a molester. I just think it's silly for you guys to testify like character witnesses for him. You'll never know what he was really like, no matter how many articles or books you read, or interviews you see.

Michael Jackson is a true humanitarian, an example to us all. He has devoted much time and money to a wide range of charities. He loves children and takes time out when touring secretly visting sick children. He also has special rooms at his home Neverland for sick and terminally ill children to stay over. He was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guiness Book Of World Records for breaking the world record for the "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star". It states that Michael Jackson has supported 39 charity organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or by participating in their silent auction.

We have made an alphabetical list of known charities that Michael Jackson has individualy supported publically throughout his career. Michael Jackson also helped set up Heal The World Foundation, the charities this has supported have not been listed. Read our Heal The World/kids page for details of this foundation.

clearly the man was a monster


And Peyton Manning is a great QB.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: R1ZE on July 01, 2009, 03:51:10 PM
people can call me harsh or a hater or whatever and i feel sorry for his family, but human being people need to get off that conspiracy theory shit and that stan shit for real

fuck a conspiracy theory, i believe in facts you can prove which is common sense, i'm open to anything so long as it makes sense and adds up, thats all, wit evidence

michael jackson is a nonce(paedophille), simple as, its not a conspiracy theory, people going on like they would have left there youger kids or little brother and sister alone wit him

for more than 10 years there was numerous paedophille allegations, he settled out of court on occasions(which is a sign of guilt in this scenario) and had court cases on these allegations, which showed he had a suspect lifestyle and unhealthy relationship wit kids, true stories, you can't have the same charges aimed at you for more than 10 years from different quarters wit his unhealthy lifestyle on top of that witout there being some truth to that fire, i ain't buying it, i don't care what no one says

i feel sorry for the human being kids he molested, thats who i feel sorry for, get off that conspiracy shit and stan stuff, a paedophille, rapist, voyeur, stalker, sex offender is the worst thing to be on the roads cuzzy, along wit rats and faggots, get off that shit

you can prove that he was a child molester ?  ::)

 :loco: @ the wholepost

if you would leave your kids or younger brothers and sisters, nieces, nephews alone wit him, sleeping in the same bed as a old fucking man, then your fucking stupid and iresponsible, true stories, a fruitcake that dosen't deserve to have kids, for real

@everyone else
that chandler kid mj nonced in 93, dad's a rich doctor, he wern't some stupid gold digger, conman, using his kids to gold dig it wit mj


he wasnt a "rich doctor"... he was a normal dentist. not poor by any means but he wasnt making 22 mill in a year like he got from mj  ::)

as far as settling out of court... no thats not proof of guilt. best buy settled their case (which obv the mom was lying about) too; when a case is going on it's not exactly the best time of your life. anyone would want to get out of that situation as soon as possible - it takes a huge toll on you, your image, everything.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: LONDON!! on July 01, 2009, 04:02:13 PM
if someone calls me a paedophille, false allegations me like that, i wouldn't settle out of court in any situation because i wouldn't want any human being to get the wrong idea, get it twisted and shit, thats the worst shit to call someone, settling outside court on those type of charges is a sign of obvious guilt, thats the way i see it
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on July 02, 2009, 07:19:33 PM
if someone calls me a paedophille, false allegations me like that, i wouldn't settle out of court in any situation because i wouldn't want any human being to get the wrong idea, get it twisted and shit, thats the worst shit to call someone, settling outside court on those type of charges is a sign of obvious guilt, thats the way i see it


there would come a point where you stopped caring about what the world thinks, and just wanted to live your life in peace.

-T
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Moe on July 02, 2009, 07:43:08 PM
i think that "Michael Jackson, Cardiac Arrest" would sound like a good tv drama.
Title: Re: Micheal Jackson....Cardiac Arrest......
Post by: Tanjential on July 02, 2009, 08:08:49 PM
or album, like dude said.

-T