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Title: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 09, 2009, 04:19:32 PM
i think dude deserves a "Good" ranking.  he can flow his ass off alot, but i can't say i like Joe enough to go buy any of his shit.



but he's def not as wack as some people make him out to be.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: ikke on July 09, 2009, 04:31:24 PM
you gotta give him props for his longevity at least

He's good, Make it rain is one of my favorite songs
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: J Bananas on July 09, 2009, 04:34:58 PM
Good, his 90's shit was pretty gutter, then he moved to miami and realized hot women don't give a shit about an ill 16
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 09, 2009, 04:36:18 PM
Good, his 90's shit was pretty gutter, then he moved to miami and realized hot women don't give a shit about an ill 16

haha

i know he useda deal, and had to prove himself on the mic to get into DITC
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: J.E. on July 09, 2009, 04:37:43 PM
Between average & good. But I voted "good."
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 04:40:39 PM
voted the last option.

he's straight up BALLS!
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OchoCinco on July 09, 2009, 04:42:35 PM
voted the last option.

he's straight up BALLS!


lol 50cent fans......



and cham u always claimin ppl ridin for their favorite teams and artists.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Lunatic on July 09, 2009, 04:44:44 PM
he was good but now he way below avg so that evens out to avg for me...dude is SO bad nowadays
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: DTG Entertainment on July 09, 2009, 04:46:01 PM
Ain't been the same since Pun's passing.  :-[
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 04:48:37 PM
i disliked him & his music way before the whole 50 Cent thing.

but i can't front, it made me dislike him more. :)

he is just a bad rapper, in my opinon; although Lean Back was good, but just the Remix. ;)

i give him props that he never really sold out though, but he thinks he is better than he is & he blows so that annoys me lol.

dude is SO bad
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: mrkmaidog on July 09, 2009, 04:52:53 PM
still a good rapper, dunoe how ppl say he's wack, he can still flow and make bangin tracks. dude has 2 CLASSIC albums:
"DA GANGSTA" (92-93)
"JEALOUS ONES ENVY" (95 proabaly his best album ever when he was still on that grimey ny tip)

yall in denial if those 2cds aint bumpin...
"don cartegena" 98 hella solid album.... john blaze. nuff said...
after that u can say he fell off, but his jelous ones still envy 2001 and all or nothing 2005 were hella solid albums. everything else were either 3-3.5 outta 5...
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: J.E. on July 09, 2009, 04:56:26 PM
Fat Joe's verse on this song is just great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7dxtPXLSQ


Ja Rule & Jadakiss killed that shit too, last classic New York "anthem"  8)
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 09, 2009, 04:57:32 PM
hey Chmil


what's your take on Fat Joe's verses from the following songs:


-5 Fingers of Death (DITC)
-The Enemy  (Big L)
-New York  (Ja Rule, Jadakiss and Fat Joe)


Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: MediumL on July 09, 2009, 05:00:07 PM
^^^ Dude used ghostwriters so its not like he actually gets props for most of the stuff he raps
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 05:03:25 PM
Fat Joe's verse on this song is just great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H7dxtPXLSQ


Ja Rule & Jadakiss killed that shit too, last classic New York "anthem"  8)

that's the only Ja song i can bump; & just for the reason that it's the anthem. 8)

hey Chmil


what's your take on Fat Joe's verses from the following songs:


-5 Fingers of Death (DITC)
-The Enemy  (Big L)
-New York  (Ja Rule, Jadakiss and Fat Joe)




5 Fingers of Death -  can't front, never heard it
The Enemy - L owns him, but Joe is good; great verse. the line about he use to steal, but now owns business' was dope, but still i wouldn't go as far as calling it classic lol.
New York - i give that verse love because it's the anthem, but it's an average verse honestly.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 09, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
^^^ Dude used ghostwriters so its not like he actually gets props for most of the stuff he raps

didn't know that but it would not surprise me lol.

got any proof that those 3 particular verses were ghost-write?  cuz if so then i'd change my vote from "good" to 'average" lol
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 05:04:19 PM
^^^ Dude used ghostwriters so its not like he actually gets props for most of the stuff he raps

LOL, deadass? wow, now i have even less respect for him. :laugh:
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Þŕiņçë on July 09, 2009, 06:26:33 PM
You know these forums are gay when you see a thread full of people talking about how much they like the SHITTIEST east coast "rapper"
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: D-Nice on July 09, 2009, 06:29:46 PM
Good rapper but follows too many trends for me. Swagger jacked Rick Ross something bad there for a while.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 09, 2009, 06:30:15 PM
last few years been wack, WACK
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 09, 2009, 06:32:12 PM
You know these forums are gay when you see a thread full of people talking about how much they like the SHITTIEST east coast "rapper"

50 cent?
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Þŕiņçë on July 09, 2009, 06:36:14 PM
50 cent > fat joe any day. they should put all fat people into concentration camps. sorry flloydness.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 09, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
50>>>>>fat joe
joey is borin lol even tho he claims hes better than 50
50 ate him, but my fofo was aite



You know these forums are gay when you see a thread full of people talking about how much they like the SHITTIEST east coast "rapper"

50 cent?
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 06:37:57 PM
50 cent > fat joe any day. they should put all fat people into concentration camps. sorry flloydness.

Get Rich or Die Tryin' The Massacre In Da Club >>> Fat Joe
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: PLANT on July 09, 2009, 06:42:26 PM
Fat Joe sucks donkey balls....He was aiight when Pun was alive and he was diggin in the crates
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 09, 2009, 06:43:38 PM
i mean pretty much cuz crack has been so wack lately, and even when he was dope, he only had a few dope joints
now maybe bein apart of ditc-different story and thats cuz there was better members involved
joey crack is overrated
and thats sayin alot, cuz in da club was a club banger but damn it got old fast but it still beats cracks life lol




50 cent > fat joe any day. they should put all fat people into concentration camps. sorry flloydness.

Get Rich or Die Tryin' The Massacre In Da Club >>> Fat Joe
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Þŕiņçë on July 09, 2009, 06:43:47 PM
I'm better than you, so that means my opinion counts for more. Your opinion is meaningless. Matter'a'fact, your posting privileges have been revoked. You came to the wrong part of the internets mowfucka
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on July 09, 2009, 06:45:13 PM
he was good but now he way below avg so that evens out to avg for me...dude is SO bad nowadays
I have a similar view.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 09, 2009, 06:45:51 PM
50 cent ain't never getting into D-I-T-C alongside Big L, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, O.C., Showbiz....

yet  fat joe somehow did.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on July 09, 2009, 06:46:15 PM
Voted average, hes an alright rapper when he wants to be but this guy defines the term selllout, so fuck him
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
50 cent ain't never getting into D-I-T-C alongside Big L, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, O.C., Showbiz....

yet  fat joe somehow did.

maybe he wouldn't, but i still say 50 > Fat Joe lol.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on July 09, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
yeah but jus cuz he got in, dont mean hes dope or at the top wit this rap shit
throw him a dope gza or rza verse and hell need 6 months to recover and a ghostwriter to respond to even come close and not look bad lol



50 cent ain't never getting into D-I-T-C alongside Big L, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, O.C., Showbiz....

yet  fat joe somehow did.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on July 09, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
50 cent ain't never getting into D-I-T-C alongside Big L, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, O.C., Showbiz....

yet  fat joe somehow did.

Fat Joe is the Tony Yayo of D-I-T-C
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 09, 2009, 06:54:39 PM
50 cent ain't never getting into D-I-T-C alongside Big L, Diamond D, Lord Finesse, O.C., Showbiz....

yet  fat joe somehow did.

Fat Joe is the Tony Yayo of D-I-T-C

LOL! :laugh:
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: westsiderider323 on July 09, 2009, 07:02:45 PM
average
he definitly started to suck ass after Pun (RIP) died
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Rick James on July 09, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
average. there is only a few songs I like from him.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: sobrino on July 09, 2009, 09:10:10 PM
Good, his 90's shit was pretty gutter, then he moved to miami and realized hot women don't give a shit about an ill 16
Yup.  :D
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: herpes on July 09, 2009, 10:01:14 PM
His first two albums are dope especially Jealous Ones Envy.  Anyone who says Joe has always been wack or is the wackest NY rapper obviously doesn't know shit (young prince).  I ain't goin front for the past 10 years he has been ass cheeks but JOE was a dope fucking album.  And hate Joe all you want but the dude has shown more love and knowledge for the culture than most of your favorite rappers and has always explained whey he sold out when he sold out.  And how can you front on this shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/0cIGhMW20HE

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/oPo8Sil02rY

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/tHhkw8HuHgo
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Lunatic on July 09, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
Voted average, hes an alright rapper when he wants to be but this guy defines the term selllout, so fuck him
real talk
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: herpes on July 09, 2009, 10:24:23 PM
Voted average, hes an alright rapper when he wants to be but this guy defines the term selllout, so fuck him
real talk

And unlike every other rapper in the industry he never denied when he sold out and always explained his actions.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on July 09, 2009, 11:01:18 PM
Fat Joe flow = average

Fat Joe lyrics = below average

Fat Joe beat selection = above average

Fat Joe = average = skip him when u see him
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: A1 on July 10, 2009, 03:13:02 AM
He killed it on that track on the big picture album but i cant remember the name of the song. That aside i dont really rate him these days, make it rain was an awful song! Then when he called banks a girly girl in that rick ross track i lost an lasting resepct for him as an mc
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on July 10, 2009, 06:21:48 AM
Average. Joe > Fiddy.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Okka on July 10, 2009, 06:44:58 AM
If a rapper don't write his own rhymes should be he even counted as a rapper?
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: MediumL on July 10, 2009, 06:55:20 AM
^^^ Dude used ghostwriters so its not like he actually gets props for most of the stuff he raps

didn't know that but it would not surprise me lol.

got any proof that those 3 particular verses were ghost-write?  cuz if so then i'd change my vote from "good" to 'average" lol

maybe not those verses in particular but ive seen interviews from some of his former ghostwriters. I think one was in TS and I have an inkling that Pun wrote a lot of his earlier lyrics but I could be wrong...
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Ridah662 on July 10, 2009, 06:57:34 AM
I Rather Listen To Tony Yayo Than That Fat Fuck, I Alwayz Hated Him.....As A Rapper & Person, He Just Too Fake.....R.I.P. Pun Though  
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 10, 2009, 07:38:13 AM
He killed it on that track on the big picture album but i cant remember the name of the song. That aside i dont really rate him these days, make it rain was an awful song! Then when he called banks a girly girl in that rick ross track i lost an lasting resepct for him as an mc

"The Enemy"




he also kills it on "5 Fingers of Death" with DITC!  amazing verse.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: MediumL on July 10, 2009, 07:43:06 AM
no doubt fat joe has spit some dope verses back before Pun died - its whether he wrote those verses cause the nose dive in quality after Pun died was pretty dramatic.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Okka on July 10, 2009, 08:19:53 AM
no doubt fat joe has spit some dope verses back before Pun died - its whether he wrote those verses cause the nose dive in quality after Pun died was pretty dramatic.

Everybody in Terror Squad wrote Fat Joe's lyrics, including Big Punisher. No doubt Joe got classic songs but he ain't a true MC.
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: westsiderider323 on July 10, 2009, 12:03:14 PM
no doubt fat joe has spit some dope verses back before Pun died - its whether he wrote those verses cause the nose dive in quality after Pun died was pretty dramatic.

Everybody in Terror Squad wrote Fat Joe's lyrics, including Big Punisher. No doubt Joe got classic songs but he ain't a true MC.

everyone that was in Terror Squad were fuckin beasts and now u got faggot DJ Khaled and bs like that on there smh
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: Jaydc555 on July 10, 2009, 12:43:03 PM
He's a mediocre rapper.He ran terror squad into the ground
Title: Re: how do you rate FAT JOE as a rapper????
Post by: dubsmith_nz on July 10, 2009, 03:53:10 PM
He used to pretty dope, nowadays he's just average though. First he jacked Puns flow then he jacked Weezys, duke just can't do his own shit...

He's got some bangers under his waste though