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Title: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: YSH on July 26, 2009, 03:14:04 AM
wat yall think bout dat
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Fraxxx on July 26, 2009, 04:03:13 AM
Leave alone the "no album"-discussion. Nobody can question their lyrical abilities. Em has some songs which I like better than Crooked's best when it comes to deepness cuz I

think Em is more capable of transporting the feeling by voice and delivery. Plus he has the Aftermath production machine behind him. On the other hand he has made a shitload

of unbelievably wack popsongs. Crooked put out bangers constantly which I didn't hear from Em in a loong time and he hardly ever really disappointed me with anything I

listened to. So there's only one option to decide that question: Do some songs together, some bangers, some deep shit, one of every sort.  ;D Until then it's Crook>Em to me,

but that's from a fan's perspective.
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: K.Dub on July 26, 2009, 04:56:53 AM
But Crooked gots no albums


8)
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on July 26, 2009, 05:06:29 AM
Lol at these thread "???>Crooked I"
But I cant judge because as a westcoast fan, Crooked I is def better to me
His work on C-Style compilations, his Death Row period (2002/03) and the unreleased Say Hi To The Bad Guy >> Anything Eminem puts out (but is this really objective lol)
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Lucifuge on July 26, 2009, 05:29:03 AM
maybe few mc's cant fuck with Em..crook is dope,but he aint one of them
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 26, 2009, 05:39:57 AM
em is MUCH better at having "subject matter"  (more topics to rap about)

crooked is slightly better at wordplay, punchlines, and much better at being consistant over the years (i.e. em falling the fuck off after MMLP while Crook keeps getting better with time)
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on July 26, 2009, 06:06:01 AM
em is MUCH better at having "subject matter"  (more topics to rap about)

crooked is slightly better at wordplay, punchlines, and much better at being consistant over the years (i.e. em falling the fuck off after MMLP while Crook keeps getting better with time)

I dont agree about Crook getting better with time, I think hes fallin off instead
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: ikke on July 26, 2009, 06:06:32 AM
em is MUCH better at having "subject matter"  (more topics to rap about)

crooked is slightly better at wordplay, punchlines, and much better at being consistant over the years (i.e. em falling the fuck off after MMLP while Crook keeps getting better with time)

I dont agree about Crook getting better with time, I think hes fallin off also
and if he hasn't he WILL fall off sooner or later
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: JD Bastin on July 26, 2009, 06:08:27 AM
em is MUCH better at having "subject matter"  (more topics to rap about)

crooked is slightly better at wordplay, punchlines, and much better at being consistant over the years (i.e. em falling the fuck off after MMLP while Crook keeps getting better with time)

I dont agree about Crook getting better with time, I think hes fallin off also


i think slaughterhouse is making crook get better - his verse on the joe budden track slaughterhouse is his best in his career to me and hes been raping for 10 years right
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Hatesrats™ on July 26, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
Fuck no.
Eminem is boring as fuck & his subject matter has zero replay value.
(Check his catalog & re listen again, DATED his music does not age well)

Well, That's my opinion.
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Trojan God on July 26, 2009, 09:16:31 AM
Ima Crooked I fan and Im ok witih Eminem but theres no denying Eminem is greater from a lyrical standpoint.  I really thought he fell off after releasing the real slim shady and i figured well hes not gonna come back to that shit.  Crack a Bottle got my intrest a bit but more so cuz of Dre coming back but after hearing Chemical Warefare off the Alchemist album, i was like damn hes back with a vengance.  So unless Crooked can step his shit up, Eminem is > Crooked I
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 26, 2009, 10:07:46 AM
as of today - Crooked (even though Shady's rhyming & flow were out of this world on Relapse! :o)

but all time - Eminem, Infinite, SSLP, MMLP, most of The Eminem Show just all over Crooked's stuff.
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: DJDMC on July 26, 2009, 11:24:10 AM
Em is a beast, there is no comparrison
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: JD Bastin on July 26, 2009, 11:25:13 AM
crooked > slim
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on July 26, 2009, 11:29:25 AM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: JD Bastin on July 26, 2009, 01:00:27 PM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course


eminem has also made alot of horrible song like the entire Encore album
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: David Mack on July 26, 2009, 01:09:09 PM
Y'all niggaz trippin u comparin a homo who be dating bruno to a real azz nigga like crook who would spit circles around dat vanilla ice reject?
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 26, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course


eminem has also made alot of horrible song like the entire Encore album

how is that album in comparison to Crooked's worst album? ;)
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Lucifuge on July 26, 2009, 01:32:48 PM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course


eminem has also made alot of horrible song like the entire Encore album

how is that album in comparison to Crooked's worst album? ;)

hahah what a punchline ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 26, 2009, 01:34:58 PM
Y'all niggaz trippin u comparin a homo who be dating bruno to a real azz nigga like crook who would spit circles around dat vanilla ice reject?
and in english?
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: RhyanG on July 26, 2009, 01:43:06 PM
crook got rhymes bt em got flow
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 26, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course

have you ever heard Crook rhyme over the Renegade beat from Young Boss vol 1?  i'd say he rips it as well as Em did


"first they gave my peo-ple crack, then counter-attacked that with the Re-co act, that's why the Pen-i-tentiarys be-so-packed"
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 26, 2009, 03:30:23 PM
why do we compare great rappers for though?

we should just leave them alone, unless it's a no brainer.

because face it, people who love Crooked I will only dislike Eminem more & Eminem fans will only dislike Crooked more by the end of this thread. :P
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: adamanthraxe on July 26, 2009, 04:07:26 PM
While Eminem was gettin tea-bagged by BRUNO on MTV, Crooked I was getting Slaughterhouse finished up.
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 26, 2009, 04:11:36 PM
why do we compare great rappers for though?

we should just leave them alone, unless it's a no brainer.

because face it, people who love Crooked I will only dislike Eminem more & Eminem fans will only dislike Crooked more by the end of this thread. :P


i actually think Crooked and Em are two of the top emcees to ever grace the mic




i think its funny how people are trying to say "this guy > crooked" because that only means Crooked has established himself as one of the elite spitters in rap....not that we didn't already know this


thanks Long Bitch Is Active
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 26, 2009, 04:15:08 PM
While Eminem was gettin tea-bagged by BRUNO on MTV, Crooked I was getting Slaughterhouse finished up.

+1, didn't know that.

why do we compare great rappers for though?

we should just leave them alone, unless it's a no brainer.

because face it, people who love Crooked I will only dislike Eminem more & Eminem fans will only dislike Crooked more by the end of this thread. :P


i actually think Crooked and Em are two of the top emcees to ever grace the mic




i think its funny how people are trying to say "this guy > crooked" because that only means Crooked has established himself as one of the elite spitters in rap....not that we didn't already know this


thanks Long Bitch Is Active

easily, but people who are dieheart Crooked haters will only lose more respect for Crooked when people are saying he is better than Eminem; but who cares? lol.

both are amazing. 8)
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 26, 2009, 04:17:42 PM
people actually arguing this?



what's next crooked stans? you going to argue he's a  better civil rights leader then MLK?
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 26, 2009, 04:19:38 PM
people actually arguing this?



what's next crooked stans? you going to argue he's a  better civil rights leader then MLK?


speaking of the devil....lmao what a fool.
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on July 26, 2009, 04:23:30 PM
people actually arguing this?



what's next crooked stans? you going to argue he's a  better civil rights leader then MLK?


speaking of the devil....lmao what a fool.


sorry stan, you got it all twisted, I wasn't pointing out crooked established himself as anything


all I pointing out is how ludicrous you stans are, I could make a "Jesus Christ>>>Crooked" thread and you would all still tell crooked could rap circles around him
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 26, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
jesus can't rap moron

drop an mp3 if you think im wrong
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Blasphemy on July 26, 2009, 08:29:11 PM
lol. People will usually put crooked I over Eminem because Eminem doesn't sing normal topics, he stays on over the top violence, homos, drug abuse, his wife, his mother. Crooked I is just another West Coast rapper talking about gangsta shit, but this time with some very good lyrics. Either way its a matter of personal preference. If were were to do a real comparison, we had to compare lyrics, wordplay, and general content.

Eminem would get props for his first 3 albums, Encore would be a huge blemish on his lyrical record. Relapse, well that's a mixed situation, has better word play and lyrics compared to Encore, but its still stuck on the same topics, after 4 years of taking a break. Drug abuse became a main issue on it though.With The Marshall Mathers LP managing to be 1 of only 4 albums to go diamond, and eminem becoming the highest selling rapper, he's left his mark not only in the game but in america in general.The Controversy he sparked hasn't been heard of since N.W.A's legendary album Straight Outta Compton.The Marshall Mathers LP presented his magnum opus, with his intense lyricism, witty word play, and extremely good flow.Toning down his Slim Shady for a more realistic album gave him a whole new height of success.

Crooked I - Has managed to obtain a very good following among the west despite never releasing a album. Being 1 of the few signed to Death Row's Second Dynasty that wasn't meant to be a rip off, provided extra points for his record.While Eminem just admits how he felt about fans coming up to him, crooked I takes a slightly different Approach, and tries to keep his connected using his Audo Week tapes. Crooked I's Mixtapes have been highly acclaimed, and his consistent lyrical prowness has given him a very high standard, normally not reserved for west coast acts on lyricism.

I can go on with both artist (maybe later for a more in depth review. but clearly,  Eminem has managed bigger feats, while Crooked I has managed to gain a strong cult following and could be a major factor in saving West Coast Hip-Hop. Over all lots of stuff involved with both artist.
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Gamestarr on July 27, 2009, 04:30:16 AM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course

have you ever heard Crook rhyme over the Renegade beat from Young Boss vol 1?  i'd say he rips it as well as Em did


"first they gave my peo-ple crack, then counter-attacked that with the Re-co act, that's why the Pen-i-tentiarys be-so-packed"

whoa.. that shit is dope.. like every other bar dude ever spit..

Crooked I > Eminem.. Consistency, flow, delivery, way more interesting topics, funny as hell punches etc..

Em only talks about being a victim - In school he was bullied? Boo hoo.. and now the media is on his dick? boo hoo once again.. oh yeah and his stepfather raped him? boo hoo hoo..
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: OG Hack Wilson on July 27, 2009, 05:02:51 AM
lol


crooked i never had to diss the backstreet boys or christina agulara too
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Hatesrats™ on July 27, 2009, 06:14:44 AM
Eminem get's no airplay in my ride.
(So it's a matter of asshole, AKA opinion!)
Title: Re: Eminem > Crooked I
Post by: Chamillitary Click on July 27, 2009, 10:45:42 AM
crooked is insane, but if this wasnt a westcoast forum, just a hip-hop forum in general, there would be no debate and comparison....em's guest verses alone on 'renegade' & 'dont approach me' are better than alot of crooks verses.....taking nothing away from crooked I of course

have you ever heard Crook rhyme over the Renegade beat from Young Boss vol 1?  i'd say he rips it as well as Em did


"first they gave my peo-ple crack, then counter-attacked that with the Re-co act, that's why the Pen-i-tentiarys be-so-packed"

whoa.. that shit is dope.. like every other bar dude ever spit..

Crooked I > Eminem.. Consistency, flow, delivery, way more interesting topics, funny as hell punches etc..

Em only talks about being a victim - In school he was bullied? Boo hoo.. and now the media is on his dick? boo hoo once again.. oh yeah and his stepfather raped him? boo hoo hoo..

LOL WHAT?

Eminem one of the very few rappers who have a different thing to rap about than most rappers.

so if Eminem lied, like most rappers & said he was killing guys as a teen & preached fuck the police, you would gain a greater respect?

"the police are doing there job, so fuck them!", boo-hoo; "the streets were so hard on me", boo hoo.

i can't even name another topic most rappers rap about, i think i already summed it up. :laugh: