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Title: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 14, 2009, 12:21:06 PM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 14, 2009, 02:54:49 PM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 14, 2009, 03:00:48 PM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 14, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
some yes =/

Christianity fucked up somewhere in history.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Cali Climate on August 14, 2009, 03:23:11 PM
Yeah atheism is a pretty bitter concept, but religion is unfathomably stupid in my book.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 14, 2009, 03:24:26 PM
Guess ya never read The Book of Job.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 14, 2009, 03:26:58 PM
Guess ya never read The Book of Job.
yes, God takes away everything from his most devout follower because of a bet with satan.
What a god ::)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 14, 2009, 03:28:10 PM
I'm referring to the end of it.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 14, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
I'm referring to the end of it.
refresh my mind
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 14, 2009, 03:32:14 PM
Talks about dinosaurs and alligators.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Raphael on August 14, 2009, 04:06:14 PM
but religion is unfathomably stupid in my book.
i learned a new word today 8)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 14, 2009, 04:10:21 PM
Talks about dinosaurs and alligators.
People didn't know about dinosaurs back then
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Cali Climate on August 14, 2009, 04:12:20 PM
but religion is unfathomably stupid in my book.
i learned a new word today 8)

*high fives*
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: G-Funk on August 14, 2009, 04:59:48 PM
Just an excuse to sue anyone for anything that mentions God.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 14, 2009, 05:03:25 PM
god shouldn't be relevent anymore
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 14, 2009, 06:26:45 PM
Talks about dinosaurs and alligators.
People didn't know about dinosaurs back then
Yet it's mentioned in The Bible...
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Blasphemy on August 14, 2009, 07:27:35 PM
Talks about dinosaurs and alligators.
People didn't know about dinosaurs back then
Yet it's mentioned in The Bible...

Considering the bible was written by man (probably by a liars hand) its very likely they had no true concept of history. Mainly cause of the fact no carbon dating. So they took a guess..
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 14, 2009, 10:20:07 PM
But like you say, since they had no true concept of history, and no knowledge of dinosaurs or such animals as crocodiles, how could they still manage to write it out...see by sayin' all that, ya'll provin' my point..


Quick, 'Bible Study', when someone would ask about dinosaurs.....they would refer them too Behemoth. I don't know if they really dinosaurs or not, they sound like alligators to me.

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Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
Behemoth...Dinosaurs?
With Thee...Cavemen?


I say an alligator
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Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews (tendons) of his stones are wrapped together.

Dinosaur..
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His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

Alligator..
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Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed (water plants), and fens (wetland).
The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.


BUT, it does say this..
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He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
So whatever the fuckin' thang is, only God could kill him, and knowing how big dinosaurs is, it makes perfect sense, ain't no human man killing that shit..




So whatever the fuckin' thang was, is was beastly..

Anddddd to the lying man who wrote the book with NO knowledge of dinosaurs, talked about SOME BEAST....and with our knowledge today KNOW about dinosaurs.....sooooooooooo....

AND now I just wrote alllllllllllllll that shit to Atheists who prolly don't give a fuck anyways......all that just to defend. What the fuck.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 14, 2009, 10:43:42 PM
most of these so called born again or believing christians still buy into all that ''the earth is 10.000 years old bullshit". the science community talks about the earth being around 4.5 billion years old and they're actually pretty united in that belief. i think its pretty clear how these religious fanatics operate. these muthafuccas dont use reason or logic when they go about explaining shit. all they have is some seriously fucced up book that has been rewritten, revised and edited over a billion times. the most bizarre thing about it is that people still take it seriously...despite all the shit we know now...and even if u tried to use logic and live your life by this book it's fuccin impossible. This shit is filled with contradictions. And Quiet...behemoth a dinosaur...tail movin like a cedar is alligator...are you serious? wtf homie. No one said dinosaurs was killed by men. Ever thought about weather conditions?. A giant asteroid perhaps. A gang of shit could've went down.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 03:43:07 AM
QT there refering to satan and shitj with behemoth.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: virtuoso on August 15, 2009, 05:05:56 AM

You don't need to have a religious belief to believe in god though and while I don't follow any religious book, some atheists are just as fanatical and just as crazy as any religious zealot. The fact is that athiesm too literally, just as religion can be too taken to insane levels, is very dangerous but the most outspoken of atheists are usually the most pig headed, arrogant people you are likely to meet. If you feel enlightened by being an atheist, then cool, however athiesm has also been used as a weapon with devastating results. Yet the myth promulgated by a hardcore section and with it parroted by others is that it's atheists who are the peaceful ones and religious people who are the danger to society. This is partly built on the fact of course that the republican party for instance has been re branded away from it's original ideology into a swarm of right wing religious nuts, however that betrays the truths of history. Of course I don't have any proof that god exists beyond just my own faith, my own belief, my own feeling but why do atheists being so "enlightened" find it necessary to go after anyone who has any faith in god. It feels like an insecurity on their part and seems somewhat ironic when you consider that bible bashers are chastised.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 08:21:53 AM
damn str8 talk^^
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 08:29:47 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA , WATCHING SOME SHOW WITH SOME RETARD TELLING KIDS DINOSAURS LIVED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
THAT SHIT IS SO FUCKING FUNNY.

He's ruining kids, Is that even legal?

It's goddamn funny.

"1 thing I Don't like about dinosaurs is that satan uses them to tell you lies"

"When your playing with dinosaurs with your friends tell them 'did you know dinosaurs lived side by side with the humans"

"If Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago why do they apear on so many art work of ancient civilisations"

It made my day ;D
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 08:45:39 AM
tell em qt man they listening they just don't know
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 08:54:19 AM
tell em qt man they listening they just don't know
If the bible stories are true it's still stolen from other stories ::)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 09:07:12 AM
how do you fgure this ikke?And what stories?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 09:13:16 AM
how do you fgure this ikke?And what stories?
Genisis was based on a sumerian story about the creation of the earth.
The world was created by a snake god...
Snake... Sound familiar :P?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 09:28:10 AM
you have ben drinking to much :P :-* :laugh:
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 09:32:36 AM
you have ben drinking to much :P :-* :laugh:
yes I'VE been drinking too much ::)

The original genisis was about the same story but there was a snake god, and to 'mock' the older religion the snake was made an evil.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 09:40:43 AM
okay so anser me this how did we get here ikke you seem to be missing the point,we are here,so how did we get here ikke?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 09:43:36 AM
okay so anser me this how did we get here ikke you seem to be missing the point,we are here,so how did we get here ikke?
Evolution
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 09:56:56 AM
and what started evolution?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 10:03:54 AM
and what started evolution?
ROFL
+1 for making me laugh

Evolution will be there as long as there is something to evolve.
Like there has always been Hydrogen and Helium (first 2 elements present in the universe)

Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 10:53:25 AM
and WHO made those two things...............
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 11:30:38 AM
and WHO made those two things...............
The Big bang, But does something have to be created?

And evolution is a law, like gravity. Where there's matter there's gravity
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 11:33:59 AM
yeah but your not getting the point everythin comes from something like what came first the chicken or the egg?If the chicken came first then what made the chicken and if the egg came first who made the egg?see what I am getting at?There has to be something that caused all this,where you will go there with me at least?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 11:39:58 AM
yeah but your not getting the point everythin comes from something like what came first the chicken or the egg?If the chicken came first then what made the chicken and if the egg came first who made the egg?see what I am getting at?There has to be something that caused all this,where you will go there with me at least?
Egg came first, dinosaurs laid eggs way before chickens existed ::)

By that logic, god has to be created to.....
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
very good(hey qt anyway He can come in) now I know you don't want to admit there is a God but will you give me this much that there is something up there that was there when the dinoc were here?Cuz the dinos didn't just get here on their own..........
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 11:46:31 AM
very good(hey qt anyway He can come in) now I know you don't want to admit there is a God but will you give me this much that there is something up there that was there when the dinoc were here?Cuz the dinos didn't just get here on their own..........
It started with simple bacteria that evolved over billions of years to more complicated organisms.
Early fish didn't even have a digestion system, they just had alot of other bacteria's helping to digest the food
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 15, 2009, 11:57:31 AM
^^you guys are going in circles with no end in sight.

I dont necessarily believe in God, and I for damn sure dont believe in any particular religion. For one, I dont believe God made man.  I believe we are relatively insignificant in the greater picture of the worlds history. Religion seems to give man a much more important role then they really carry. We will be extinct one day like damn near every other species thats ever existed.  The world will go on, and not miss us.  I do however understand Queens question of where did we come from.  Not man in particular, but all of this.  I wonder myself sometimes.  I believe in evolution, without a doubt. Its seems pretty obvious.  Obvious enough that the human mind can understand it.  But really, where did EVERYthing come from?  How was the universe created?  Its a question we simply dont KNOW the answer to.  The problem I have with religion is that it creates a baseless answer rather then just admitting that nobody knows.  There is NO PROOF of God, Jesus, or any of the nonsense in the Bible.  It is there solely for those who want answers...to questions that can not be answered by us.  Its comforting to feel as if SOMEone knows whats going on.  But the truth is, none of us do.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
okay daygo but see the point is we did come from sowewhere......right?Like I can't prove that there is a God,like you can't prove there isn't a God,I see part of yalls basic idea and that so we humans don't get enough credit for what we do but daygo I don't believe we are here for nothing,it makes it seem you are flirting with depression daygo and that worries me a little.............
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 12:13:17 PM
we make a difference daygo,you make a difference(now perhaps we don't get enough credit for what we do)but still we can't possibly be here for nothing,cmon guys surely you don't believe that............that is just plain suicide thinking...............
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 12:18:54 PM
Jesus has existed.
his divine powers have not, He was human like you and I.

QS, do we need to have a purpose for everything?
I mean I masturbate daily, but there's no reason for it.

Daygo you make some interesting ponts there, we don't know anything about before the big bang.

My theory is that the big bang was caused because of the end of a previous universe, the universe colapsed and from the force created by that colapse another universe was created.


There might be a god, but definatly not as the bible describes it.
Because afterall it's just guessing what the religions do.

But I would still like to say, if you think evolution is bullshit you should kill yourself
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 15, 2009, 12:20:20 PM
okay daygo but see the point is we did come from sowewhere......right?Like I can't prove that there is a God,like you can't prove there isn't a God,I see part of yalls basic idea and that so we humans don't get enough credit for what we do but daygo I don't believe we are here for nothing,it makes it seem you are flirting with depression daygo and that worries me a little.............

Yes, we did come from somewhere.  I just dont make up an answer without evidence. Thats what religion has done.  And peoples fear of the unknown and of death are so strong that they are willing to believe anything to comfort those fears.

lol Im not depressed.  I just live in reality.  I believe in facts.  I believe that 2+2 = 4...because I can prove to you that it is true.  No one can prove that God is real.  There is no historical evidence of Jesus.  I dont have to prove that there is NO God.  If I told you there were invisible rats running around your room right now, could I later say that Im not the crazy one...you are, because you cant prove that they ARENT there?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 12:29:39 PM
okay daygo but see the point is we did come from sowewhere......right?Like I can't prove that there is a God,like you can't prove there isn't a God,I see part of yalls basic idea and that so we humans don't get enough credit for what we do but daygo I don't believe we are here for nothing,it makes it seem you are flirting with depression daygo and that worries me a little.............

Yes, we did come from somewhere.  I just dont make up an answer without evidence. Thats what religion has done.  And peoples fear of the unknown and of death are so strong that they are willing to believe anything to comfort those fears.

lol Im not depressed.  I just live in reality.  I believe in facts.  I believe that 2+2 = 4...because I can prove to you that it is true.  No one can prove that God is real.  There is no historical evidence of Jesus.  I dont have to prove that there is NO God.  If I told you there were invisible rats running around your room right now, could I later say that Im not the crazy one...you are, because you cant prove that they ARENT there?
I'm almost sure there's proof of jesus, Him being a god, that is bullshit.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 15, 2009, 12:30:43 PM
Its impossible to understand this religion bullshit and to me the reasons for NOT believing in god far out number the reasons for believing in god. How the fucc are you gonna believe in something and buy into something you don't know exists. You can't touch it, see it or hear it and you certainly dont feel it. If theres an almighty god would he allow wars, torture, murder or little kids gettin killed by stray bullets. Yeah I know what religious people say but YOU CAN'T PUT FAITH ABOVE LOGIC. The minute you do that is the minute you become fuccin delusional. Its like them muthafuccas who buy into the illuminati, the ufos, the conspiracy theories and all that other bullshit. The reasons for believing in god and all that other shit I just mentioned are exactly the same. ITS FAITH ABOVE LOGIC AND IF IT AIN'T LOGIC THEN IT'S BULLSHIT. Seriously where is the logic in believing in something no one has proved exists!!!. There is no evidence. NOTHING. You wanna believe in something..well how about starting with yourself.

p.s.
TUPAC IS DEAD
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 12:37:09 PM
wow c-blue you sound angy today(wonder what is eating you)so ikke you mention that there might be a Jesus,so lets hear your reasoning as to who Jesus is...........I am dying to hear this............. ;)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 15, 2009, 12:38:12 PM
I love how people will fight over two theories and profess them like they are fact.

Fact of the matter is, nobody knows how all this got here 100% and in my opinion, we should be trying to see how we can last here before getting wiped out or wiping ourselves out. AND in my honest opinion, I'm leaning towards the scientific theory as to why we are here because 1) its somewhat logical and 2) it is backed up by evidence other than some dude shouting "Let there be light" and it appears.

The only flaw in both theories is how something came from nothing, but neither really addresses that issue well. One does address the issue better about what happened after matter appeared.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 12:39:40 PM
YOU CAN'T PUT FAITH ABOVE LOGIC.
/end thread
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 15, 2009, 12:40:27 PM
okay daygo but see the point is we did come from sowewhere......right?Like I can't prove that there is a God,like you can't prove there isn't a God,I see part of yalls basic idea and that so we humans don't get enough credit for what we do but daygo I don't believe we are here for nothing,it makes it seem you are flirting with depression daygo and that worries me a little.............

Yes, we did come from somewhere.  I just dont make up an answer without evidence. Thats what religion has done.  And peoples fear of the unknown and of death are so strong that they are willing to believe anything to comfort those fears.

lol Im not depressed.  I just live in reality.  I believe in facts.  I believe that 2+2 = 4...because I can prove to you that it is true.  No one can prove that God is real.  There is no historical evidence of Jesus.  I dont have to prove that there is NO God.  If I told you there were invisible rats running around your room right now, could I later say that Im not the crazy one...you are, because you cant prove that they ARENT there?
I'm almost sure there's proof of jesus, Him being a god, that is bullshit.

really? I thought I had read that there is no documented evidence of him ever existing.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 12:43:21 PM
well now but if ikke beleives this then who are you two to knock him down?Let him believe what he believes..............

daygo i do believe soem of the stuff you have said but the question remains what do we do now...........
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 12:44:45 PM
okay daygo but see the point is we did come from sowewhere......right?Like I can't prove that there is a God,like you can't prove there isn't a God,I see part of yalls basic idea and that so we humans don't get enough credit for what we do but daygo I don't believe we are here for nothing,it makes it seem you are flirting with depression daygo and that worries me a little.............

Yes, we did come from somewhere.  I just dont make up an answer without evidence. Thats what religion has done.  And peoples fear of the unknown and of death are so strong that they are willing to believe anything to comfort those fears.

lol Im not depressed.  I just live in reality.  I believe in facts.  I believe that 2+2 = 4...because I can prove to you that it is true.  No one can prove that God is real.  There is no historical evidence of Jesus.  I dont have to prove that there is NO God.  If I told you there were invisible rats running around your room right now, could I later say that Im not the crazy one...you are, because you cant prove that they ARENT there?
I'm almost sure there's proof of jesus, Him being a god, that is bullshit.

really? I thought I had read that there is no documented evidence of him ever existing.
Nothing to solid.
Some graves of family members., some roman books I think.

But if you think about it every book in bible refers to something that actually happend.
Like in every book nowadays, fictional but based on shit that really happend.

Even atlantis existed. The black sea and the persian golf weren't always bodies of water.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 12:48:47 PM
very good ikke and I think that there is some stuff in there that might ber based on something that happened,I am not trying to agree on the whole bible cuz I got problems where it says that a woman has to walk behind her man and cannot raise her voice above a whisper man FUCK THAT SHIT
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 15, 2009, 12:53:10 PM
Its impossible to understand this religion bullshit and to me the reasons for NOT believing in god far out number the reasons for believing in god. How the fucc are you gonna believe in something and buy into something you don't know exists. You can't touch it, see it or hear it and you certainly dont feel it. If theres an almighty god would he allow wars, torture, murder or little kids gettin killed by stray bullets. Yeah I know what religious people say but YOU CAN'T PUT FAITH ABOVE LOGIC. The minute you do that is the minute you become fuccin delusional. Its like them muthafuccas who buy into the illuminati, the ufos, the conspiracy theories and all that other bullshit. The reasons for believing in god and all that other shit I just mentioned are exactly the same. ITS FAITH ABOVE LOGIC AND IF IT AIN'T LOGIC THEN IT'S BULLSHIT. Seriously where is the logic in believing in something no one has proved exists!!!. There is no evidence. NOTHING. You wanna believe in something..well how about starting with yourself.

p.s.
TUPAC IS DEAD

I do think people sell themselves short by simpling writing everything off to God. God isnt the reason you were successful today, you are.  I think we havent even come CLOSE to understanding everything that man is capable of.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 15, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
very good ikke and I think that there is some stuff in there that might ber based on something that happened,I am not trying to agree on the whole bible cuz I got problems where it says that a woman has to walk behind her man and cannot raise her voice above a whisper man FUCK THAT SHIT
lol yes, church is really degrating towards woman.

Adam was created in god's likeness, Eve out of some useless body part of god to show mans dominance.
And adam's first bitch who was created in gods likeness as well became a demon because she never got to go on top.
Lillith.

I know I fucked up transelation on that post
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 15, 2009, 12:54:02 PM
very good ikke and I think that there is some stuff in there that might ber based on something that happened,I am not trying to agree on the whole bible cuz I got problems where it says that a woman has to walk behind her man and cannot raise her voice above a whisper man FUCK THAT SHIT

ahh...that was the only part i agreed with.  8)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 15, 2009, 12:55:11 PM
very good ikke and I think that there is some stuff in there that might ber based on something that happened,I am not trying to agree on the whole bible cuz I got problems where it says that a woman has to walk behind her man and cannot raise her voice above a whisper man FUCK THAT SHIT
lol yes, church is really degrating towards woman.

Adam was created in god's likeness, Eve out of some useless body part of god to show mans dominance.
And adam's first bitch who was created in gods likeness as well became a demon because she never got to go on top.
Lillith.

I know I fucked up transelation on that post

naw youre good.  I thought you were QUOTING the Bible for a second with "adam's first bitch" lol
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 01:02:30 PM
damn the bible is fucked up with how it treats women.........I was told when I was a baptist that I could not be a chaplin cuz I was a woman I gave them the middle finger and walked out of church.......

I seince found a church that belives in spiritualty and daygo I really feel that you are right,I think we could accomplish alot more then what we are doing now.............
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 15, 2009, 01:11:52 PM
a song dedicated to sikotic and daygo,ikke and c-blue...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izB85LUlygE

life is too short
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 15, 2009, 07:45:09 PM
so what if lifes too short...thats life...u live and u die. but u gotta get in where u fit in....u should be GETTIN' IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hAXvjTwBf9Q



Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 16, 2009, 09:46:29 AM
First of all...

QT there refering to satan and shitj with behemoth.
Where the fuck do you get that from?

Second of all...

Why do the Atheists keep bringing up God? That's the real question. If ya'll don't give a shit about God or Jesus, why constantly bring them up? Seriously. It's so ironic. If you got no belief than why argue about it. Atheism is so negative to me, it makes no sense.

And with all the evolution shit...let's be for reallllll, why ain't we evolving niggas.....shouldn't we have about 4 arms by now? Or maybe one leg, one arm? Maybe we evolving mentally, but forget that claim, becuz, as for the other half...physically....there's the L........what we was monkeys than became caveman, and than just stopped??
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 09:58:44 AM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
some yes =/

Christianity fucked up somewhere in history.
Christianity is the best religion... please dont diss it...
i know in holland you pop thiz and spell God in lower case letters
but thats not how it works lil brother
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 16, 2009, 10:07:23 AM
First of all...

QT there refering to satan and shitj with behemoth.
Where the fuck do you get that from?

Second of all...

Why do the Atheists keep bringing up God? That's the real question. If ya'll don't give a shit about God or Jesus, why constantly bring them up? Seriously. It's so ironic. If you got no belief than why argue about it. Atheism is so negative to me, it makes no sense.

And with all the evolution shit...let's be for reallllll, why ain't we evolving niggas.....shouldn't we have about 4 arms by now? Or maybe one leg, one arm? Maybe we evolving mentally, but forget that claim, becuz, as for the other half...physically....there's the L........what we was monkeys than became caveman, and than just stopped??

because "man" as we reconize him is relatively new.  The evolution of man is spread out over millions of years.  Even man now has evolved.  Its just that the process is so slow that in our lifetime we would not notice it at all.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 16, 2009, 10:23:14 AM
^ The process is slow for everythang right now. I know if I was God, I woulda been wiped us out by now.  ;D

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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
some yes =/

Christianity fucked up somewhere in history.
Christianity is the best religion... please dont diss it...
i know in holland you pop thiz and spell God in lower case letters
but thats not how it works lil brother
Well, Christian's are the most hypocritical follower's, there's no question about that, and should be ashamed of themselves.

But believing in God, finding morals thru out The Bible, and principles and having faith point blank, is a beautiful thang. But there's only a few genuine people out there today who have that mind state. The world is a beautiful place, but nobody appreciates it. Which is sad. And realizing that doesn't require faith, but it defiantly strengthens one's belief, I think. To recognize God's green Earth, is inspiration in itself. And ain't nuttin' korny about it. It's truth. And I feel sorry for those Atheists who prolly will never try to understand that.

People on this Earth really ruin it. All kinds of people.



Atheists are just as hypocritical as Christians though. So arguing about morality and belief is pointless, in my opinion. But I guess you gotta defend what you believe in, otherwise..
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 16, 2009, 10:42:43 AM
^ The process is slow for everythang right now. I know if I was God, I woulda been wiped us out by now.  ;D

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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
some yes =/

Christianity fucked up somewhere in history.
Christianity is the best religion... please dont diss it...
i know in holland you pop thiz and spell God in lower case letters
but thats not how it works lil brother
Well, Christian's are the most hypocritical follower's, there's no question about that, and should be ashamed of themselves.

But believing in God, finding morals thru out The Bible, and principles and having faith point blank, is a beautiful thang. But there's only a few genuine people out there today who have that mind state. The world is a beautiful place, but nobody appreciates it. Which is sad. And realizing that doesn't require faith, but it defiantly strengthens one's belief, I think. To recognize God's green Earth, is inspiration in itself. And ain't nuttin' korny about it. It's truth. And I feel sorry for those Atheists who prolly will never try to understand that.

People on this Earth really ruin it. All kinds of people.



Atheists are just as hypocritical as Christians though. So arguing about morality and belief is pointless, in my opinion. But I guess you gotta defend what you believe in, otherwise..

you think we only found out about morality through the bible...in other words if there was no fuccin bible we wouldnt have morals?. why the fucc do you think its in the bible. because man put it there!. you cant have Thou Shall Steal or Thou Shall Kill...for obvious fuccin reasons.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 16, 2009, 10:46:18 AM
^ The process is slow for everythang right now. I know if I was God, I woulda been wiped us out by now.  ;D

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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
some yes =/

Christianity fucked up somewhere in history.
Christianity is the best religion... please dont diss it...
i know in holland you pop thiz and spell God in lower case letters
but thats not how it works lil brother
Well, Christian's are the most hypocritical follower's, there's no question about that, and should be ashamed of themselves.

But believing in God, finding morals thru out The Bible, and principles and having faith point blank, is a beautiful thang. But there's only a few genuine people out there today who have that mind state. The world is a beautiful place, but nobody appreciates it. Which is sad. And realizing that doesn't require faith, but it defiantly strengthens one's belief, I think. To recognize God's green Earth, is inspiration in itself. And ain't nuttin' korny about it. It's truth. And I feel sorry for those Atheists who prolly will never try to understand that.

People on this Earth really ruin it. All kinds of people.



Atheists are just as hypocritical as Christians though. So arguing about morality and belief is pointless, in my opinion. But I guess you gotta defend what you believe in, otherwise..

you think we only found out about morality through the bible...in other words if there was no fuccin bible we wouldnt have morals?. why the fucc do you think its in the bible. because man put it there!. you cant have Thou Shall Steal or Thou Shall Kill...for obvious fuccin reasons.

I'm talking about people today looking in it for morals.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 16, 2009, 11:17:10 AM
yall are on point with your opions mayne but all I know is my sons is saved,so that is three of my kids now just to work on liddy............
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 16, 2009, 11:29:35 AM
fucc i feel sorry for your kids...bein brainwashed like that. they prolly dont even know left from right. didnt they interview you in that documentary...Jesus Camp?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 16, 2009, 11:39:35 AM
c-blue I ama say a prayer for you and your friends and I will keep and ask for your family to be protected to have a hedge around them...........
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 12:36:01 PM
^ The process is slow for everythang right now. I know if I was God, I woulda been wiped us out by now.  ;D

Quote
atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

This made me lol

lol  Doesnt Christianity believe the Dinosaurs were around like 5,000 yrs ago?
some yes =/

Christianity fucked up somewhere in history.
Christianity is the best religion... please dont diss it...
i know in holland you pop thiz and spell God in lower case letters
but thats not how it works lil brother
Well, Christian's are the most hypocritical follower's, there's no question about that, and should be ashamed of themselves.

But believing in God, finding morals thru out The Bible, and principles and having faith point blank, is a beautiful thang. But there's only a few genuine people out there today who have that mind state. The world is a beautiful place, but nobody appreciates it. Which is sad. And realizing that doesn't require faith, but it defiantly strengthens one's belief, I think. To recognize God's green Earth, is inspiration in itself. And ain't nuttin' korny about it. It's truth. And I feel sorry for those Atheists who prolly will never try to understand that.

People on this Earth really ruin it. All kinds of people.



Atheists are just as hypocritical as Christians though. So arguing about morality and belief is pointless, in my opinion. But I guess you gotta defend what you believe in, otherwise..
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 16, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
Lights, god is spelled with capitols here to.
I just refuse to do it.
I could make up some story about how he isn't real and doesn't deserve it but I just cbf capitalizing it.

Atheists have more proof tho.
I used to be tollerannt of religions, but people like QS make it harder fo rme ::)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 04:18:00 PM
Lights, god is spelled with capitols here to.
I just refuse to do it.
I could make up some story about how he isn't real and doesn't deserve it but I just cbf capitalizing it.

Atheists have more proof tho.
I used to be tollerannt of religions, but people like QS make it harder fo rme ::)
i dono brother... idono
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:19:35 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 04:21:03 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
but then he is smarter than most ppl on here... am i right bro?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:37:52 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
but then he is smarter than most ppl on here... am i right bro?

hell nah, i mean his whole argument against christianity, was the big bang theory, like alright homie  ::).


the people that are smart are the people that have a reasonable opinion on a subject.  making your dad clean up after your spoiled ass and than creating  a thread saying "i minipulated my dad" isnt too smart in my book.


Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 04:40:11 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
but then he is smarter than most ppl on here... am i right bro?

hell nah, i mean his whole argument against christianity, was the big bang theory, like alright homie  ::).


the people that are smart are the people that have a reasonable opinion on a subject.  making your dad clean up after your spoiled ass and than creating  a thread saying "i minipulated my dad" isnt too smart in my book.



you know what i noticed bro...
European/ WASP....
a lot of people are very much changing when it comes to Christianity....
for some of us Christians they dont understand that religion isnt only what happened in the Bible but its our culture and way of life...
I dont want to hear the BULLSHIT evidence of the innexistent religion
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:43:39 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
but then he is smarter than most ppl on here... am i right bro?

hell nah, i mean his whole argument against christianity, was the big bang theory, like alright homie  ::).


the people that are smart are the people that have a reasonable opinion on a subject.  making your dad clean up after your spoiled ass and than creating  a thread saying "i minipulated my dad" isnt too smart in my book.



you know what i noticed bro...
European/ WASP....
a lot of people are very much changing when it comes to Christianity....
for some of us Christians they dont understand that religion isnt only what happened in the Bible but its our culture and way of life...
I dont want to hear the BULLSHIT evidence of the innexistent religion


culture ? way of life? thats bs only for a few true religous believers and im not talking bout the fanatics either. lol 99% of christians dont change their life style, they just go to church on sundays to socialize and get bitches. on the freal thats why i dont go cuz its all bullshit. christianity doesnt change your way of life, it might be culture but fordamn sure dont change mosts peoples life, they do the same shit htey do, whether their drug dealers, con-artists, burglers, etc
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 04:48:05 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
but then he is smarter than most ppl on here... am i right bro?

hell nah, i mean his whole argument against christianity, was the big bang theory, like alright homie  ::).


the people that are smart are the people that have a reasonable opinion on a subject.  making your dad clean up after your spoiled ass and than creating  a thread saying "i minipulated my dad" isnt too smart in my book.



you know what i noticed bro...
European/ WASP....
a lot of people are very much changing when it comes to Christianity....
for some of us Christians they dont understand that religion isnt only what happened in the Bible but its our culture and way of life...
I dont want to hear the BULLSHIT evidence of the innexistent religion


culture ? way of life? thats bs only for a few true religous believers and im not talking bout the fanatics either. lol 99% of christians dont change their life style, they just go to church on sundays to socialize and get bitches. on the freal thats why i dont go cuz its all bullshit. christianity doesnt change your way of life, it might be culture but fordamn sure dont change mosts peoples life, they do the same shit htey do, whether their drug dealers, con-artists, burglers, etc
i partially agree with you... but it makes me feel better to go to church... even tho i do bad things...
and true ... people hook up at a Church all the time...
its not a bad place to meet young hot girls
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 16, 2009, 04:52:42 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.
but then he is smarter than most ppl on here... am i right bro?

hell nah, i mean his whole argument against christianity, was the big bang theory, like alright homie  ::).


the people that are smart are the people that have a reasonable opinion on a subject.  making your dad clean up after your spoiled ass and than creating  a thread saying "i minipulated my dad" isnt too smart in my book.



you know what i noticed bro...
European/ WASP....
a lot of people are very much changing when it comes to Christianity....
for some of us Christians they dont understand that religion isnt only what happened in the Bible but its our culture and way of life...
I dont want to hear the BULLSHIT evidence of the innexistent religion


culture ? way of life? thats bs only for a few true religous believers and im not talking bout the fanatics either. lol 99% of christians dont change their life style, they just go to church on sundays to socialize and get bitches. on the freal thats why i dont go cuz its all bullshit. christianity doesnt change your way of life, it might be culture but fordamn sure dont change mosts peoples life, they do the same shit htey do, whether their drug dealers, con-artists, burglers, etc
i partially agree with you... but it makes me feel better to go to church... even tho i do bad things...
and true ... people hook up at a Church all the time...
its not a bad place to meet young hot girls

yea, but thats the problem, most if not all go there to meet bitches (thats are young). if i go to church i wanna go there for chruch not some other bullshit, it just seems weak and low to me.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 16, 2009, 05:03:53 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.

Exactly.

There's a scientist for everythang. They have scientists out there studying and trying to prove evolution and there is scientists out there studying and trying to prove stories in The Bible.


All anybody's gotta do is turn on The History Channel and there's the information on their researches..
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 16, 2009, 10:28:53 PM
hmmm
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: The Phoenix on August 17, 2009, 05:20:25 AM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.

Exactly.

There's a scientist for everythang. They have scientists out there studying and trying to prove evolution and there is scientists out there studying and trying to prove stories in The Bible.


All anybody's gotta do is turn on The History Channel and there's the information on their researches..
Speak the Truth!
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 17, 2009, 09:55:55 AM
go to church with me  in tot pheonix
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 17, 2009, 01:27:44 PM
go to church with me  in tot pheonix
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 17, 2009, 03:15:20 PM
go to church with me  in tot pheonix
Hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 17, 2009, 08:25:19 PM
LMAO
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: The Phoenix on August 18, 2009, 04:51:34 AM
LMAO
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 19, 2009, 08:05:23 AM
LMAO
LMFAO
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on August 19, 2009, 09:27:22 AM
lmaotcrotflmao
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 04:21:17 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 21, 2009, 04:50:06 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.

Exactly.

There's a scientist for everythang. They have scientists out there studying and trying to prove evolution and there is scientists out there studying and trying to prove stories in The Bible.


All anybody's gotta do is turn on The History Channel and there's the information on their researches..
You can't really prove bible stories, if you find the location of the garden of eden it doesn't neccesarily mean the bible story is true.
Art immitates life, every story is based on something that actually happend or inspired by a place that existed.
It's just a book that teaches you how to live your life better.

Wasn't evolution accepted as fact years ago?
I mean when people find corpses from only 2,000 years ago it's obvious the average height has increased sufficiently.
That's proof to me.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 21, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.

Exactly.

There's a scientist for everythang. They have scientists out there studying and trying to prove evolution and there is scientists out there studying and trying to prove stories in The Bible.


All anybody's gotta do is turn on The History Channel and there's the information on their researches..
You can't really prove bible stories, if you find the location of the garden of eden it doesn't neccesarily mean the bible story is true.
Art immitates life, every story is based on something that actually happend or inspired by a place that existed.
It's just a book that teaches you how to live your life better.

Wasn't evolution accepted as fact years ago?
I mean when people find corpses from only 2,000 years ago it's obvious the average height has increased sufficiently.
That's proof to me.



please shut the fuck up
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Cali Climate on August 21, 2009, 05:14:15 PM
I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 05:27:51 PM
I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Cali Climate on August 21, 2009, 05:31:07 PM
I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.

It's an interesting world, full of wonderful contradictions.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 21, 2009, 05:32:53 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?

yea but, i mean lets be reasonable, we all know someone or something created us, whether it be a god, or matter. i believe religions try to define what we dont know.


i mean laws of science, theorys of evolution is probaly the most primitive step of undestanding the universe. lol i mean theres a billion stuff in space right now that just conflict with the many laws of science (ex: laws of physics).  if the solar system were to just diminish it'll just throw all teh laws of science out of the window.




Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 21, 2009, 05:38:18 PM
I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.


from the first day i went to church till i was 15 i wasnt afraid of death, because i truly believed in the religion, but as i started to have disbelief, i became worried because of what will happen in the afterlife.


u guys ever hear what lil religious kids say? sounds suicidal
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 21, 2009, 05:43:33 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.

Exactly.

There's a scientist for everythang. They have scientists out there studying and trying to prove evolution and there is scientists out there studying and trying to prove stories in The Bible.


All anybody's gotta do is turn on The History Channel and there's the information on their researches..
You can't really prove bible stories, if you find the location of the garden of eden it doesn't neccesarily mean the bible story is true.
Art immitates life, every story is based on something that actually happend or inspired by a place that existed.
It's just a book that teaches you how to live your life better.

Wasn't evolution accepted as fact years ago?
I mean when people find corpses from only 2,000 years ago it's obvious the average height has increased sufficiently.
That's proof to me.



please shut the fuck up
What's your problem?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 21, 2009, 07:05:34 PM
yea but, i mean lets be reasonable, we all know someone or something created us, whether it be a god, or matter. i believe religions try to define what we dont know.
Exactly.



I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.

But we do. Like I said be before, death is glorying. Just becuz people get sad and upset that they lose someone shouldn't be held against them. It's crazy how you could have someone in your life and than all the sudden be taken away, no longer in the flesh with you. But time goes on, and you know that they are in a better place. Everybody is scared of death, nobody knows what goes on after that....but we ALL are gonna die, and for someone to think that nuthin' happens after the fact, than I feel sorry for you and them negative realizations ya'll believe.


I mean how could ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it..? We just formed outta nowhere, outta some living organism to unexpectedly die at any given moment? That just doesn't make sense to me..
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 21, 2009, 07:24:14 PM
yea but, i mean lets be reasonable, we all know someone or something created us, whether it be a god, or matter. i believe religions try to define what we dont know.
Exactly.



I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.

But we do. Like I said be before, death is glorying. Just becuz people get sad and upset that they lose someone shouldn't be held against them. It's crazy how you could have someone in your life and than all the sudden be taken away, no longer in the flesh with you. But time goes on, and you know that they are in a better place. Everybody is scared of death, nobody knows what goes on after that....but we ALL are gonna die, and for someone to think that nuthin' happens after the fact, than I feel sorry for you and them negative realizations ya'll believe.


I mean how could ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it..? We just formed outta nowhere, outta some living organism to unexpectedly die at any given moment? That just doesn't make sense to me..

Naw, my point wasnt that religious folks should not mourn the loss of a loved one.  What Im saying is that one of the motivating factors in believing in a particular religion is the fear of what happens after death.  But if you believe in Christianity for example, death should be welcomed as it brings you to Heaven (hopefully).

As far as nothing happening after death, I dont see that as negative.  I just see it as realistic.  I think that sayin "ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it" is far more negative. Maybe an Athiest believes we are here to live.

I dunno, I agree we came from somewhere. I just think its normal egotistical man creating this Jesus character in the likeness of another man and God (though he isnt in physical form) has a lot of human character traits. lol.  My thing is, what makes it appear as if religion has been created just to appease peoples fears is that our creator (God) is always good.  He's loving, and caring, etc.  How do you know our creator isnt completely evil and hateful?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 21, 2009, 07:37:01 PM
yea but, i mean lets be reasonable, we all know someone or something created us, whether it be a god, or matter. i believe religions try to define what we dont know.
Exactly.



I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.

But we do. Like I said be before, death is glorying. Just becuz people get sad and upset that they lose someone shouldn't be held against them. It's crazy how you could have someone in your life and than all the sudden be taken away, no longer in the flesh with you. But time goes on, and you know that they are in a better place. Everybody is scared of death, nobody knows what goes on after that....but we ALL are gonna die, and for someone to think that nuthin' happens after the fact, than I feel sorry for you and them negative realizations ya'll believe.


I mean how could ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it..? We just formed outta nowhere, outta some living organism to unexpectedly die at any given moment? That just doesn't make sense to me..

Naw, my point wasnt that religious folks should not mourn the loss of a loved one.  What Im saying is that one of the motivating factors in believing in a particular religion is the fear of what happens after death.  But if you believe in Christianity for example, death should be welcomed as it brings you to Heaven (hopefully).

As far as nothing happening after death, I dont see that as negative.  I just see it as realistic.  I think that sayin "ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it" is far more negative. Maybe an Athiest believes we are here to live.

I dunno, I agree we came from somewhere. I just think its normal egotistical man creating this Jesus character in the likeness of another man and God (though he isnt in physical form) has a lot of human character traits. lol.  My thing is, what makes it appear as if religion has been created just to appease peoples fears is that our creator (God) is always good.  He's loving, and caring, etc.  How do you know our creator isnt completely evil and hateful?

I hear you.

But there are Atheists on this board who say that shit, 'think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it', and comparing that ideation to one a Christian believes, is just negative. You, I don't think belongs in that category, but them hardcore Atheists, unfortunately yeah. I mean I ain't tryin' to speak for you, don't take it like that, but I'm just sayin' you don't come off like that..

And yeah but..

Even Bananas himself, said Atheism is a lil bitter. And for real though, shit IS.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 21, 2009, 07:42:15 PM
Does god have to be a concience/entity?

Can't god be the universe?
The force that keeps everything working?

That would make allot more sense
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 21, 2009, 07:45:24 PM
^ In the sense, that's what he is. The all-powering creater. He ain't gotta be no man with a beard but a divine light......

Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LooN3y on August 22, 2009, 02:38:26 AM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.

i mean technincally arnt all laws of science be bullshit?





seriously i doubt spoiled 16 your old would have a reasonable opinion.

Exactly.

There's a scientist for everythang. They have scientists out there studying and trying to prove evolution and there is scientists out there studying and trying to prove stories in The Bible.


All anybody's gotta do is turn on The History Channel and there's the information on their researches..
You can't really prove bible stories, if you find the location of the garden of eden it doesn't neccesarily mean the bible story is true.
Art immitates life, every story is based on something that actually happend or inspired by a place that existed.
It's just a book that teaches you how to live your life better.

Wasn't evolution accepted as fact years ago?
I mean when people find corpses from only 2,000 years ago it's obvious the average height has increased sufficiently.
That's proof to me.



please shut the fuck up
What's your problem?


besides the fact that your a lazy spoiled brat that makes your single parent father clean up your room, you dont even read up on the posts where there are things in space (galaxaies, stars, etc) that is undefiniable by modern laws of physics, and you hear talking about that we accpeted evolution as a fact.

keep on makin a dumbfuck outta yourself, you gotta learn somewhere.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 10:31:21 AM
yea but, i mean lets be reasonable, we all know someone or something created us, whether it be a god, or matter. i believe religions try to define what we dont know.
Exactly.



I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.

But we do. Like I said be before, death is glorying. Just becuz people get sad and upset that they lose someone shouldn't be held against them. It's crazy how you could have someone in your life and than all the sudden be taken away, no longer in the flesh with you. But time goes on, and you know that they are in a better place. Everybody is scared of death, nobody knows what goes on after that....but we ALL are gonna die, and for someone to think that nuthin' happens after the fact, than I feel sorry for you and them negative realizations ya'll believe.


I mean how could ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it..? We just formed outta nowhere, outta some living organism to unexpectedly die at any given moment? That just doesn't make sense to me..

Naw, my point wasnt that religious folks should not mourn the loss of a loved one.  What Im saying is that one of the motivating factors in believing in a particular religion is the fear of what happens after death.  But if you believe in Christianity for example, death should be welcomed as it brings you to Heaven (hopefully).

As far as nothing happening after death, I dont see that as negative.  I just see it as realistic.  I think that sayin "ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it" is far more negative. Maybe an Athiest believes we are here to live.

I dunno, I agree we came from somewhere. I just think its normal egotistical man creating this Jesus character in the likeness of another man and God (though he isnt in physical form) has a lot of human character traits. lol.  My thing is, what makes it appear as if religion has been created just to appease peoples fears is that our creator (God) is always good.  He's loving, and caring, etc.  How do you know our creator isnt completely evil and hateful?

I hear you.

But there are Atheists on this board who say that shit, 'think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it', and comparing that ideation to one a Christian believes, is just negative. You, I don't think belongs in that category, but them hardcore Atheists, unfortunately yeah. I mean I ain't tryin' to speak for you, don't take it like that, but I'm just sayin' you don't come off like that..

And yeah but..

Even Bananas himself, said Atheism is a lil bitter. And for real though, shit IS.

I gotcha. I think there are also a fair amount of Athiest who make comments like that (we're just here to die) just to get under other peoples skin...especially on here.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 22, 2009, 11:34:45 AM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 22, 2009, 11:35:23 AM
Does god have to be a concience/entity?

Can't god be the universe?
The force that keeps everything working?

That would make allot more sense
that makes sense... but religion is a cooler way of reppin that
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 11:54:17 AM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 22, 2009, 12:25:16 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 03:00:35 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 22, 2009, 03:07:36 PM
Conflicts between religions are caused by people trying to convert others...

That's why I'm not as tolerant towards Christians anymore......It's queen's fault ::)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 03:19:21 PM
Conflicts between religions are caused by people trying to convert others...

That's why I'm not as tolerant towards Christians anymore......It's queen's fault ::)

u know u gotta be extra careful not to get into any arguments with that sig u got... :-X
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 22, 2009, 03:27:46 PM
Conflicts between religions are caused by people trying to convert others...

That's why I'm not as tolerant towards Christians anymore......It's queen's fault ::)

u know u gotta be extra careful not to get into any arguments with that sig u got... :-X
yes lol xD
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 22, 2009, 04:22:15 PM
yea but, i mean lets be reasonable, we all know someone or something created us, whether it be a god, or matter. i believe religions try to define what we dont know.
Exactly.



I like these ignorant christians in here, clamoring to each other for reassurance and support in the face of the ugly truth thats staring them down.

its interesting that so many believe in a particular religion due to their fear of death, yet (because of their beliefs) they should welcome death more then any of us.

But we do. Like I said be before, death is glorying. Just becuz people get sad and upset that they lose someone shouldn't be held against them. It's crazy how you could have someone in your life and than all the sudden be taken away, no longer in the flesh with you. But time goes on, and you know that they are in a better place. Everybody is scared of death, nobody knows what goes on after that....but we ALL are gonna die, and for someone to think that nuthin' happens after the fact, than I feel sorry for you and them negative realizations ya'll believe.


I mean how could ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it..? We just formed outta nowhere, outta some living organism to unexpectedly die at any given moment? That just doesn't make sense to me..

Naw, my point wasnt that religious folks should not mourn the loss of a loved one.  What Im saying is that one of the motivating factors in believing in a particular religion is the fear of what happens after death.  But if you believe in Christianity for example, death should be welcomed as it brings you to Heaven (hopefully).

As far as nothing happening after death, I dont see that as negative.  I just see it as realistic.  I think that sayin "ya'll think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it" is far more negative. Maybe an Athiest believes we are here to live.

I dunno, I agree we came from somewhere. I just think its normal egotistical man creating this Jesus character in the likeness of another man and God (though he isnt in physical form) has a lot of human character traits. lol.  My thing is, what makes it appear as if religion has been created just to appease peoples fears is that our creator (God) is always good.  He's loving, and caring, etc.  How do you know our creator isnt completely evil and hateful?

I hear you.

But there are Atheists on this board who say that shit, 'think we was just put on some Earth to just die and that's it', and comparing that ideation to one a Christian believes, is just negative. You, I don't think belongs in that category, but them hardcore Atheists, unfortunately yeah. I mean I ain't tryin' to speak for you, don't take it like that, but I'm just sayin' you don't come off like that..

And yeah but..

Even Bananas himself, said Atheism is a lil bitter. And for real though, shit IS.

I gotcha. I think there are also a fair amount of Athiest who make comments like that (we're just here to die) just to get under other peoples skin...especially on here.

True. That's a good possibility.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 22, 2009, 04:41:23 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.

See that's all good.

However..atheists be tryin' to convince or push out their beliefs in various forms too.

When they start tryin' to take OUR rights AWAY, to claim and protect their 'rights', by doing stupid shit, is when I have a lil problem. Like for example. Atheists wanted to remove the manger off The Green at Christmas time becuz they said it violated their rights. Can someone please explain that? Here's a real good one. A CA suburb removed The Bill Of Rights outta the classroom becuz it was 'spiritually misguiding'. That is HISTORY. What in the fuck. Mind baffling. What is next? Christmas carols banned from department stores. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, what's it to you? How is these simplistic actions hurting you? You know what I'm sayin'? If they preachin' and pushin' religion to try to convert you, than thats another thang....like a man with a Bible standing in front of K-Mart on Christmas Eve...or somethang along those lines...ya know shit like that....but honestly I don't understand how any of those other thangs above are violating rights.

It's as if they gotta be defiant and pick apart the 'unintelligent who believe in some mystery in the sky'....that's when I catch feelings. :-\
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: ikke on August 22, 2009, 04:49:55 PM

See that's all good.

However..atheists be tryin' to convince or push out their beliefs in various forms too.

When they start tryin' to take OUR rights AWAY, to claim and protect their 'rights', by doing stupid shit, is when I have a lil problem. Like for example. Atheists wanted to remove the manger off The Green at Christmas time becuz they said it violated their rights. Can someone please explain that? Here's a real good one. A CA suburb removed The Bill Of Rights outta the classroom becuz it was 'spiritually misguiding'. That is HISTORY. What in the fuck. Mind baffling. What is next? Christmas carols banned from department stores. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, what's it to you? How is these simplistic actions hurting you? You know what I'm sayin'? If they preachin' and pushin' religion to try to convert you, than thats another thang....like a man with a Bible standing in front of K-Mart on Christmas Eve...or somethang along those lines...ya know shit like that....but honestly I don't understand how any of those other thangs above are violating rights.

It's as if they gotta be defiant and pick apart the 'unintelligent who believe in some mystery in the sky'....that's when I catch feelings. :-\
Seriously :o??
Probally those kind of people who complain about everything they can because it makes them feel better then the others...
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 22, 2009, 04:58:37 PM

See that's all good.

However..atheists be tryin' to convince or push out their beliefs in various forms too.

When they start tryin' to take OUR rights AWAY, to claim and protect their 'rights', by doing stupid shit, is when I have a lil problem. Like for example. Atheists wanted to remove the manger off The Green at Christmas time becuz they said it violated their rights. Can someone please explain that? Here's a real good one. A CA suburb removed The Bill Of Rights outta the classroom becuz it was 'spiritually misguiding'. That is HISTORY. What in the fuck. Mind baffling. What is next? Christmas carols banned from department stores. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, what's it to you? How is these simplistic actions hurting you? You know what I'm sayin'? If they preachin' and pushin' religion to try to convert you, than thats another thang....like a man with a Bible standing in front of K-Mart on Christmas Eve...or somethang along those lines...ya know shit like that....but honestly I don't understand how any of those other thangs above are violating rights.

It's as if they gotta be defiant and pick apart the 'unintelligent who believe in some mystery in the sky'....that's when I catch feelings. :-\
Seriously :o??
Probally those kind of people who complain about everything they can because it makes them feel better then the others...
Prolly.

Everybody and their 'rights'.






Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 22, 2009, 04:58:49 PM
The humans themselves is gonna kill off the race before God even gets a chance. ;D
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 22, 2009, 05:22:13 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.

See that's all good.

However..atheists be tryin' to convince or push out their beliefs in various forms too.

When they start tryin' to take OUR rights AWAY, to claim and protect their 'rights', by doing stupid shit, is when I have a lil problem. Like for example. Atheists wanted to remove the manger off The Green at Christmas time becuz they said it violated their rights. Can someone please explain that? Here's a real good one. A CA suburb removed The Bill Of Rights outta the classroom becuz it was 'spiritually misguiding'. That is HISTORY. What in the fuck. Mind baffling. What is next? Christmas carols banned from department stores. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, what's it to you? How is these simplistic actions hurting you? You know what I'm sayin'? If they preachin' and pushin' religion to try to convert you, than thats another thang....like a man with a Bible standing in front of K-Mart on Christmas Eve...or somethang along those lines...ya know shit like that....but honestly I don't understand how any of those other thangs above are violating rights.

It's as if they gotta be defiant and pick apart the 'unintelligent who believe in some mystery in the sky'....that's when I catch feelings. :-\

Yeah some shit can be a little over the top.  But some shit I understand. Im all for the seperation between church and state. I dont understand why the pledge of allegiance is still said in classrooms when it says "under God".  I dont think thats right, when not all children believe in a God.  The Allegiance is ok, because the classes are in America...but the "under God" part isnt right. Or even the fact that our money says "In God We Trust".  I dont see how thats right either.  Neither of those two hurt me personally, but if our Pledge of Allegiance said "without God" you can best believe every religious person out there would be in an uproar over it and would think it wasnt right for their children to have to say it every morning. Down here thers been an ongoing battle over whether or not to keep a cross up that is public property.  Its been there forever, but I can see why some people get bothered. Not just Athiest, but anyone who doesnt use a cross as a symbol for their religion.  Best believe if it were a Star of David, there woulda been swastikas spray painted all over it by now...
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 22, 2009, 05:35:33 PM
Conflicts between religions are caused by people trying to convert others...

That's why I'm not as tolerant towards Christians anymore......It's queen's fault ::)
I DON TRY CONVERTING NO ONE...
 BUT IF SOME ONE  WANTS TO BE CHRISTIAN ID GUIDE THEM..
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 22, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.

See that's all good.

However..atheists be tryin' to convince or push out their beliefs in various forms too.

When they start tryin' to take OUR rights AWAY, to claim and protect their 'rights', by doing stupid shit, is when I have a lil problem. Like for example. Atheists wanted to remove the manger off The Green at Christmas time becuz they said it violated their rights. Can someone please explain that? Here's a real good one. A CA suburb removed The Bill Of Rights outta the classroom becuz it was 'spiritually misguiding'. That is HISTORY. What in the fuck. Mind baffling. What is next? Christmas carols banned from department stores. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, what's it to you? How is these simplistic actions hurting you? You know what I'm sayin'? If they preachin' and pushin' religion to try to convert you, than thats another thang....like a man with a Bible standing in front of K-Mart on Christmas Eve...or somethang along those lines...ya know shit like that....but honestly I don't understand how any of those other thangs above are violating rights.

It's as if they gotta be defiant and pick apart the 'unintelligent who believe in some mystery in the sky'....that's when I catch feelings. :-\

Yeah some shit can be a little over the top.  But some shit I understand. Im all for the seperation between church and state. I dont understand why the pledge of allegiance is still said in classrooms when it says "under God".  I dont think thats right, when not all children believe in a God.  The Allegiance is ok, because the classes are in America...but the "under God" part isnt right. Or even the fact that our money says "In God We Trust".  I dont see how thats right either.  Neither of those two hurt me personally, but if our Pledge of Allegiance said "without God" you can best believe every religious person out there would be in an uproar over it and would think it wasnt right for their children to have to say it every morning. Down here thers been an ongoing battle over whether or not to keep a cross up that is public property.  Its been there forever, but I can see why some people get bothered. Not just Athiest, but anyone who doesnt use a cross as a symbol for their religion.  Best believe if it were a Star of David, there woulda been swastikas spray painted all over it by now...

Becuz at the same time, the world was built on religion. And America was built on Christianity. Organized law or modern laws that we follow today, however you wanna word it, we follow, based on thou shalt not murder...the way Sunday feels....we all know bout the Sabbath and from across the country, don't the majority of us eat earlier and rest and relax...how department stores were closed and some that still...or close early....somethang as simple as that formed outta a Bible and yet....from even a simpler sneeze....Easter...Christmas.....I just find it crazy how our everyday lives is based around somethang and...mannnnn I don't know.

Shit's hard...becuz I like the fact of saying 'under God'...but I get where you coming from...but see that's cuz of my belief....but I DO wanna respect everybody elses.....it's crazy....I got the influence of my Grandmother talkin' about how she thinks prayer should be back in school....so I'm like confused to how people don't like the 'one nation under God' reference.

I understand the rights of everybody, but I ain't feeling these modern times. Some shit is ridiculous.

Under the separation of church and state law, we 'ain't' allowed to TALK about The Bible but yet in science class we LEARN about evolution. Of course, when I was in High School, niggas always brought up and the girls always brought up The Bible in History class and shit becuz of a lil of the majority was a certain race...lol. But I see the suburban folks gettin' all touchy and they start filing this lawsuit and removing this from the class, and start protesting this and...it's all wack. Cuz than after that it starts hittin' our areas and now we affected...and that ain't right, imo.

In our elementary schools, we used to have religion classes after school was let out. And of course some boarding suburb got rid of it in they schools, had a lawsuit and won...so now they gon try to take it to the city. Get the fuck outta here, ya'll ain't even from here. You know? That's the type of shit that's pisses me off. Ain't no Jewish parent or Muslim parent had a problem with it, becuz it was Christian, they just DIDN'T send they kids there...but the Atheists got a problem..what the fuck?
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: .:DaYg0sTyLz:. on August 23, 2009, 10:42:39 AM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.

See that's all good.

However..atheists be tryin' to convince or push out their beliefs in various forms too.

When they start tryin' to take OUR rights AWAY, to claim and protect their 'rights', by doing stupid shit, is when I have a lil problem. Like for example. Atheists wanted to remove the manger off The Green at Christmas time becuz they said it violated their rights. Can someone please explain that? Here's a real good one. A CA suburb removed The Bill Of Rights outta the classroom becuz it was 'spiritually misguiding'. That is HISTORY. What in the fuck. Mind baffling. What is next? Christmas carols banned from department stores. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD, what's it to you? How is these simplistic actions hurting you? You know what I'm sayin'? If they preachin' and pushin' religion to try to convert you, than thats another thang....like a man with a Bible standing in front of K-Mart on Christmas Eve...or somethang along those lines...ya know shit like that....but honestly I don't understand how any of those other thangs above are violating rights.

It's as if they gotta be defiant and pick apart the 'unintelligent who believe in some mystery in the sky'....that's when I catch feelings. :-\

Yeah some shit can be a little over the top.  But some shit I understand. Im all for the seperation between church and state. I dont understand why the pledge of allegiance is still said in classrooms when it says "under God".  I dont think thats right, when not all children believe in a God.  The Allegiance is ok, because the classes are in America...but the "under God" part isnt right. Or even the fact that our money says "In God We Trust".  I dont see how thats right either.  Neither of those two hurt me personally, but if our Pledge of Allegiance said "without God" you can best believe every religious person out there would be in an uproar over it and would think it wasnt right for their children to have to say it every morning. Down here thers been an ongoing battle over whether or not to keep a cross up that is public property.  Its been there forever, but I can see why some people get bothered. Not just Athiest, but anyone who doesnt use a cross as a symbol for their religion.  Best believe if it were a Star of David, there woulda been swastikas spray painted all over it by now...

Becuz at the same time, the world was built on religion. And America was built on Christianity. Organized law or modern laws that we follow today, however you wanna word it, we follow, based on thou shalt not murder...the way Sunday feels....we all know bout the Sabbath and from across the country, don't the majority of us eat earlier and rest and relax...how department stores were closed and some that still...or close early....somethang as simple as that formed outta a Bible and yet....from even a simpler sneeze....Easter...Christmas.....I just find it crazy how our everyday lives is based around somethang and...mannnnn I don't know.

Shit's hard...becuz I like the fact of saying 'under God'...but I get where you coming from...but see that's cuz of my belief....but I DO wanna respect everybody elses.....it's crazy....I got the influence of my Grandmother talkin' about how she thinks prayer should be back in school....so I'm like confused to how people don't like the 'one nation under God' reference.

I understand the rights of everybody, but I ain't feeling these modern times. Some shit is ridiculous.

Under the separation of church and state law, we 'ain't' allowed to TALK about The Bible but yet in science class we LEARN about evolution. Of course, when I was in High School, niggas always brought up and the girls always brought up The Bible in History class and shit becuz of a lil of the majority was a certain race...lol. But I see the suburban folks gettin' all touchy and they start filing this lawsuit and removing this from the class, and start protesting this and...it's all wack. Cuz than after that it starts hittin' our areas and now we affected...and that ain't right, imo.

In our elementary schools, we used to have religion classes after school was let out. And of course some boarding suburb got rid of it in they schools, had a lawsuit and won...so now they gon try to take it to the city. Get the fuck outta here, ya'll ain't even from here. You know? That's the type of shit that's pisses me off. Ain't no Jewish parent or Muslim parent had a problem with it, becuz it was Christian, they just DIDN'T send they kids there...but the Atheists got a problem..what the fuck?

Thing is, there are a lot of things throughout history that will change as time goes on.  You can say this country was built on Christianity...but what does that mean?  It was also built on murder and slavery.  I dont necessarily think that our morals in regards to murder, etc are because of the Bible.  A completely uncontacted tribe in the middle of the rain forest more then likely has rules against killing eachother. As far as evolution in school, you can prove that things on this earth evolve, its pretty clear.  If you could not prove it, it wouldnt be taught.  Teaching evolution is not the same as supporting Athiesm.  I think there are some religious people who have looked at the scientific facts and rather then going head on against them....embrace them and still use their religion or belief in God as a way to better themselves.  Taking phrases such as "under God" or "In God We Trust" out of the Pledge or our money doesnt give any more power to Athiest (again, that would only be if it were changed to "without God", etc).  It just keeps things nuetral for people who might believe in ANYthing. I know what u mean about not wantin people from outside your area to be able to have an effect on your school, etc. But in reality, that shit will ALWAYS happen.  I live in Southern Cali, and a court case on the other side of the country could have an effect on our laws, or whatever...u know? 
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 23, 2009, 07:14:35 PM
scientist couldnt completely prove the bible wrong, and they cant completely prove the big bang theory right.




true enough. But religion deals largely with a subject that people are too afraid of to admit that they dont know the answer.  Anything else you would look at logically and not believe it until it is proven to you.  To use the example I used earlier, a scientist couldnt PROVE to you that there are not invisible rats running around your room right now.  Is that a reason to believe they are there?
daygo... hommie... you're confusing me... can you explain that better

What Im saying is that there are alot of people who are too afraid to simply say they dont know what happens after death. Its scary to a lot of people to not know, or to think that when we die...its over completely.  That same fear can make a typically logical person think illogically.  They rationalize an argument that would not apply to any other similar set of circumstances.  They say that its ok to believe in God and Heaven and Hell, etc. because although you can not prove its true...you also cant prove its not true.  The same could be said for my example of the invisible rats.  I could tell you they are there and they protect you and have a master plan for what will happen in all of our lives....and you cant prove to me that they arent. The fact that you cant prove to me that they ARENT there isnt a good enough reason to believe that they are....its illogical.  Same with the idea of an invisible man in the sky that watches over us. IMO.
look lots of people such as yourself... you make logical sense with stuff like that...
however i still choose to believe that God is a higher power... and it just makes my life easier...
all my family since 301 have been CHRISTIANS

Thats cool.  Im not tryin to convince you to NOT believe in God or your religion.  The way I look at things is, whatever makes you better as a person...do it.  If you believed in a pet rock...but for some reason you were a better person for it, do that shit.  I think for some people, religion or their belief in God helps them...for some, it hurts them.  Likewise, my belief that organized religion is full of shit doesnt hurt me.  There could be a "God" or there could not be...none of us know.

that pet rocc thing is a good point...it's simple placebo effect. niggas think and niggas believe they will feel better and if they truly believe it then chances are it's working out for them. but that dont make 'em a better person and it certainly dont make it right. because when it comes down to it all they doing is lying to themselves. seriously..you wanna be delusional or not?. you may think that pet rocc done cured your headaches but in reality it never did shit for you. it just took your mind of the real problem. like them stupid muthafuccas who believe in the power of prayer and refuse to go to the doctor. where they at?. you know where they at. they're competing with lights' mother in the 2009 olympics of rotting flesh.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: QuietTruth on August 23, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
Crazy world.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 25, 2009, 07:38:22 AM
Crazy world.
true that
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: The Phoenix on August 25, 2009, 06:17:01 PM
Crazy world.
true that
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: C-BLUE on August 25, 2009, 06:45:41 PM
Crazy world.
true that

bitches
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 26, 2009, 08:28:18 PM
Crazy world.
true that

bitches
yes  you are
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: The Phoenix on August 27, 2009, 06:22:01 AM
Crazy world.
true that

bitches
yes  you are
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: LAXCENTRAL on August 27, 2009, 08:17:35 AM
Crazy world.
true that

bitches
yes  you are
you're funny bro
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: The Phoenix on August 27, 2009, 09:40:06 AM
Crazy world.
true that

bitches
yes  you are
you're funny bro
Humor is amoungst us.
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Nigga_With_An_Additude on September 01, 2009, 10:59:09 AM
lol yall are silly ;) :)
Title: Re: atheism
Post by: Triple OG Rapsodie on September 08, 2009, 11:45:03 PM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

So just because our knowledge hasn't increased to the level where we can know for sure how the universe was created, means that it must've been created by an all-powerful being who is watching over us, yet not showing itself. And this all powerful being cares about each and every one of us and watches over us, but it won't lift a finger when our lives are going to shit. That's what my parents told me, PLUS there's a book written about it. That must be the answer.

At least the people who lived thousands of years ago had an excuse....they were idiots who didn't know anything and would believe anything you told them.

The problem with man is that we are so desperate for answers that we will make them up, just to give ourselves peace of mind.


Title: Re: atheism
Post by: The Phoenix on September 09, 2009, 04:58:16 AM
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atheism, so nothing exploded into nothing for no reason and something turned into something from nothing to create the dinosaurs, makes total sense

So just because our knowledge hasn't increased to the level where we can know for sure how the universe was created, means that it must've been created by an all-powerful being who is watching over us, yet not showing itself. And this all powerful being cares about each and every one of us and watches over us, but it won't lift a finger when our lives are going to shit. That's what my parents told me, PLUS there's a book written about it. That must be the answer.

At least the people who lived thousands of years ago had an excuse....they were idiots who didn't know anything and would believe anything you told them.

The problem with man is that we are so desperate for answers that we will make them up, just to give ourselves peace of mind.



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