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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Elano on September 23, 2009, 01:10:15 AM
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"...As far as hip-hop, I'm not the God but on the West Coast, I sold five million in two months, Biggie's album been out two years barely touching two million. This n*gga done had 50 remixes, a thousand, he got everybody in New York in his videos and still barely touching two million. I been out two months and my sh*t sold five million with two videos out, I'm just starting. These n*ggas can't touch us. They can't, really, it's funny." (from the last vibe video footage)
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I mean, 2Pac was the biggest selling rapper of 1996. All Eyez On Me was hot album. There wasn't a time in 1996 where I didn't hear that album being played (if it's a tha crib or somebody elses house, in tha cars, and at parties). U can't deny that All Eyez On Me was tha album of the year 4 1996. Everybody loves that album and it was great. I mean, album cutz was being played on tha radio at that time! LOL! That album was so hot that even album tracks was being played just as well as the singles were.
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People wern't buying All Eyez On Me for the lyrics, or Hip Hop value, whereas people were buying Ready To Die for the Hip Hop value of it, the more articulate aspect of it... 2Pac's was a far larger album to begin with (double album) with so much variety, stars, and hits, and the controversy around him made him an appealing star in the public eye. People just bought into it with this album, because being honest. Content, and lyrical wise Me Against The World, and Makaveli were doper albums. All Eyez On Me was more pop, so undoubtedly he would attain a bigger reception in terms of sales, it doesn't make him king of West Hip Hop, it just means he makes most money, but money isn't a precidence for skill and ability
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Awesome quote. 2pac THE KING!
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Pac wasn't even from tha West. He was born in NY then moved 2 Bmore, and then when he was like 16/17 he moved out to Cali. He was only on "the westcoast" for like 2 years b4 he started goin' worldwide. Pac can't claim "westside" like that. He lived out BMore or Brooklyn far longer than he did Oakland (that's some fake ass shit tbh). I never got that shit. I mean i get tha whole, it ain't where u from its where u at or anything of that nature but u can't say/claim/represent to death (literally) another coast where ur not from. Pac was a dumbass/dickhead/cockrider/swagger-jacker/bangwagoner 4 that
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Dr Dre is really the king of the west, he's responsible for the success of many hands down period. Including 2pac
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Dr Dre is really the king of the west, he's responsible for the success of many hands down period. Including 2pac
Dre might be the king of the west but he wasn't fully responsible for 2pacs success......
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Yes, he was the king of the West. He was also so loud, obnoxious, and cocky that people in the industry still hate the West Coast because of him to this day.
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Pac wasn't even from tha West. He was born in NY then moved 2 Bmore, and then when he was like 16/17 he moved out to Cali. He was only on "the westcoast" for like 2 years b4 he started goin' worldwide. Pac can't claim "westside" like that. He lived out BMore or Brooklyn far longer than he did Oakland (that's some fake ass shit tbh). I never got that shit. I mean i get tha whole, it ain't where u from its where u at or anything of that nature but u can't say/claim/represent to death (literally) another coast where ur not from. Pac was a dumbass/dickhead/cockrider/swagger-jacker/bangwagoner 4 that
Pac might have been born on tha East Coast but was reppin The West 2 tha fullest he didn't start rappin till he came to tha West Tha Bay put Pac on Tha East ain't do shit but try to KILL him how can he hold down tha East when niggaz try'n to MURK him tha West had nothin but love for Pac so he had nothin but love foe tha West Coast you probably AIN'T EVEN FROM THA WEST COAST sayin some stupid shit like dat.
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Dr Dre is really the king of the west, he's responsible for the success of many hands down period. Including 2pac
so Dre came out with 2pacalypse Now (which came out before Death Row existed) ?????
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Yes, he was the king of the West. He was also so loud, obnoxious, and cocky that people in the industry still hate the West Coast because of him to this day.
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People just bought into it with this album, because being honest. Content, and lyrical wise Me Against The World, and Makaveli were doper albums.
That's the truth. There is far more depth in either of those albums than "All Eyez" as a whole and that album covers two discs.
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pac repped tha west harder than any artist born n raised on the west n tha west had nothing but love 4 him! u little teenagers need to step yo 90s hip hop game up b4 u start chattin shit! n gay ass dre aint done shit for the west, he aint put out any westcoast artist out there n he doesnt wanna even b associated with the coast! he aint produced shit for deathrow apart from jackin j-flexx shit!
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What an ignorant asshole. Fuck tupac.
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What an ignorant asshole. Fuck tupac.
and fuck you too bitch !!
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Pac wasn't even from tha West. He was born in NY then moved 2 Bmore, and then when he was like 16/17 he moved out to Cali. He was only on "the westcoast" for like 2 years b4 he started goin' worldwide. Pac can't claim "westside" like that. He lived out BMore or Brooklyn far longer than he did Oakland (that's some fake ass shit tbh). I never got that shit. I mean i get tha whole, it ain't where u from its where u at or anything of that nature but u can't say/claim/represent to death (literally) another coast where ur not from. Pac was a dumbass/dickhead/cockrider/swagger-jacker/bangwagoner 4 that
Pac might have been born on tha East Coast but was reppin The West 2 tha fullest he didn't start rappin till he came to tha West Tha Bay put Pac on Tha East ain't do shit but try to KILL him how can he hold down tha East when niggaz try'n to MURK him tha West had nothin but love for Pac so he had nothin but love foe tha West Coast you probably AIN'T EVEN FROM THA WEST COAST sayin some stupid shit like dat.
i hate wen ppl try 2 argue dum shit bcuz they have nothing else to do.
its been documented in every 2pac doc that he wrote poetry since he was dam near a baby. so Pac has always been writing. Pac also went 2 tha BMore School of Performing Arts for Music, it might of been dance but i dont think so. So Pac was really a Westside Bandwagoner at tha time (truthfully speaking). He was born and RAISED in tha East and moved out 2 Cali right b4 he blew. Pac was fake 4 that, and alot of ppl 2 this day from tha DMV got a lil' beef (so to say) wit Pac bcuz of that fact alone, especially out BMore.
Now somehow, someway we still have ppl with this 2001 DeathRow Records mentality. Claiming Dre hasn't done shit 4 tha West but whole time, Dre is the West and always has been. Dre planted seeds in tha West and watched em ALL (most) grow worldwide. R u mad bcuz he rode wit 50 instead of Hittman? get over it, 50 shits on 90& of the artist Dre signed in tha past 10 years anyways.
If DeathRow woulda never unfolded tha way it did (dre leaving, snoop's murder case, 2pac's death, suge's bs). everybody from deathrow only exclusivly working with each other on each and every song put out. y'all would be like okay... all of their music sounds tha same, it's so uninspired, it's so stagnet, gfunk is played out, etc.
Last, the most important thing all of. Pac isn't from the West and he can't be the King of The West unless ur talking about the US *being on tha western part of the planet* Like, u can't be born and raised in the UK and then move 2 Atlanta and get something popping off a year later, you can't be like "im king of tha dirty south", or "i run ny". You're gonna see Drake lose alotta love 4 startin 2 act like and talk about shit like he's from tha States.
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pac repped tha west harder than any artist born n raised on the west n tha west had nothing but love 4 him! u little teenagers need to step yo 90s hip hop game up b4 u start chattin shit! n gay ass dre aint done shit for the west, he aint put out any westcoast artist out there n he doesnt wanna even b associated with the coast! he aint produced shit for deathrow apart from jackin j-flexx shit!
Straight Outta Compton?
Chronic?
Doggystyle?
2001?
Nah, he ain't done shit for the West
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Regarding Pac.....................Perez and I are still ridin wit him till the day we die nigga. No doubt he was the Don of the West. He commanded respect and niggas gave it to him. 8)
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What an ignorant asshole. Fuck tupac.
wow, that had a lot of depth and meaning to it ::)
i personally would say pac is the king of the west. however, if people have a problem with that, i'd put ice cube's name into the 'position' a lot sooner than i would dre's.
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When u think of the west u think of Tupac as one of the biggest influences and the rappers who want to bring the west back gotta think of how Tupac was doin it, how it was when he was alive and compare their progress to Pac's. Nobody's doin it like Tupac right now.
Producers are cool but words have a bigger influence on people!
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we obviously have a few eastcoast dickriders that hate on pac and for good reason...i mean how does it feel that pac being from the east and he reppin the west...its sad, the east tried to kill pac cause their jealousy of him and how the west came up and the east fell off....so keep on hating that means the west still on top of the east even in a recession...the whole east dickrides pac for the wrong reasons and they aint makin any money at it...
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we obviously have a few eastcoast dickriders that hate on pac and for good reason...i mean how does it feel that pac being from the east and he reppin the west...its sad, the east tried to kill pac cause their jealousy of him and how the west came up and the east fell off....so keep on hating that means the west still on top of the east even in a recession...the whole east dickrides pac for the wrong reasons and they aint makin any money at it...
ok 1st off u bitch nigga, ain't nobody hatin' on Pac. i know ur talkin about me bcuz of that dumbass shit u said about the East. Ain't nobody jealous of Pac and damn sure ain't nobody hatin' on Pac.
But lets kick it real here 4 a second, if u were from Compton and Ghostface Killah was from Compton and he moved 2 NY for a record deal and to record an album and on tha whole album and all in the interviews and all on tha everything he repped the Mid-Atlantic or the East Coast u would b like this nigga's buggin'.
We all love and respect Pac (all over the world we do) but just bcuz he's dead and he's an icon doesn't mean muthafuckaz aint gonna keep it 100 wen it's time (Spider). But Pac was a hoe 4 tha shit that he said/did, especially when he started tryna be a blood, that shit wasn't hot. U ain't really here shit about "westside" thuggin', im a kalifornia rydah, and all that other westside bs until he got wit DeathRow and was hangin' around Suge. Do ya research, before Suge u rarely caught Pac in red and throwin' up W's. All of a sudden when he gets outta jail it's WorldWideWestside :nawty: that nigga's trippin'.
that's why he ain't come back 2 tha East like that, he knew muthafuckas was gonna eat him up out here (And for good reason). Pac was scared 2 come out 2 the East. Wasn't nobody jealous of Pac lol! wtf was there 2 b jealous about? Bcuz niggaz from anotha coast was finally gettin' some radio play or a few time slots on TV lmao!? ur buggin'... Real niggaz ain't bout no fakin', and Pac was clearly fakin' and shit got addressed (orlando anderson was from Ny).
I wish it ain't go down like that niether, but don't expect niggaz 2 just let u shit on em. Jay dissed tha westside and has been out there fluently ever since, ain't nobody throwin shots at Jay... stop tryna syse (hyped) shit. real recognize real, and Pac was cleary violatin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_MdQU6h7kM
Pac "king of the west" nooooo! Dre "king of the West" or Snoop "king of the west". Ice T is a better fit for the king of the west than Pac. i can't argue wit lil niggas about nonsense. ur wasting my time and everybody elses' who comes across this.
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actually, Pac was living in LA when he was shot in new york. before that, he was living in oakland and marin city for years. he moved to cali when he was 15, so 10 years on the west=he was from the west. he always had east coast ties because of his family and tha outlawz. tbh, Pac prolly considered himself to be both coasts, but since the east did him dirty when he got locked up, he was on some fuck them niggas type shit. you would be 2 if that happened to you in a place where u had love for niggas. Pac is/was/will always be King of The West. He was gonna reclaim the East too with that One Nation shit, but he got smoked. Keep it REAL pimpin!
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the east coast is on some illuminati shit!!! in pacs last interview with vibe he made it cler that he had love for the east but he was flying the flag for the west! on the west we dnt have gayz as leaders, that says alot bout u if u was to say gay ass dre was king- im sure u can be his jester n he will look after ya!
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we obviously have a few eastcoast dickriders that hate on pac and for good reason...i mean how does it feel that pac being from the east and he reppin the west...its sad, the east tried to kill pac cause their jealousy of him and how the west came up and the east fell off....so keep on hating that means the west still on top of the east even in a recession...the whole east dickrides pac for the wrong reasons and they aint makin any money at it...
ok 1st off u bitch nigga, ain't nobody hatin' on Pac. i know ur talkin about me bcuz of that dumbass shit u said about the East. Ain't nobody jealous of Pac and damn sure ain't nobody hatin' on Pac.
But lets kick it real here 4 a second, if u were from Compton and Ghostface Killah was from Compton and he moved 2 NY for a record deal and to record an album and on tha whole album and all in the interviews and all on tha everything he repped the Mid-Atlantic or the East Coast u would b like this nigga's buggin'.
We all love and respect Pac (all over the world we do) but just bcuz he's dead and he's an icon doesn't mean muthafuckaz aint gonna keep it 100 wen it's time (Spider). But Pac was a hoe 4 tha shit that he said/did, especially when he started tryna be a blood, that shit wasn't hot. U ain't really here shit about "westside" thuggin', im a kalifornia rydah, and all that other westside bs until he got wit DeathRow and was hangin' around Suge. Do ya research, before Suge u rarely caught Pac in red and throwin' up W's. All of a sudden when he gets outta jail it's WorldWideWestside :nawty: that nigga's trippin'.
that's why he ain't come back 2 tha East like that, he knew muthafuckas was gonna eat him up out here (And for good reason). Pac was scared 2 come out 2 the East. Wasn't nobody jealous of Pac lol! wtf was there 2 b jealous about? Bcuz niggaz from anotha coast was finally gettin' some radio play or a few time slots on TV lmao!? ur buggin'... Real niggaz ain't bout no fakin', and Pac was clearly fakin' and shit got addressed (orlando anderson was from Ny).
I wish it ain't go down like that niether, but don't expect niggaz 2 just let u shit on em. Jay dissed tha westside and has been out there fluently ever since, ain't nobody throwin shots at Jay... stop tryna syse (hyped) shit. real recognize real, and Pac was cleary violatin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_MdQU6h7kM
Pac "king of the west" nooooo! Dre "king of the West" or Snoop "king of the west". Ice T is a better fit for the king of the west than Pac. i can't argue wit lil niggas about nonsense. ur wasting my time and everybody elses' who comes across this.
like i said lil bitch keep on hatin it's what you seem to do best.... ;)
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Let's be real, at tha time of that interview 2Pac was tha king of tha coast. 1996 as far as rap is concern was all about 2Pac. Yeah, u had hot albums by The Fugees, Jay-Z, and Nas that came out that year but, 2Pac All Eyez On Me was tha biggest rap album of 96'. He put out one smash hit after another, from California Love to Hit Em' Up (which was B-Side to the How Do U Want It maxi-single). Y'all got All Eyez On Me, u've heard those unreleased recordings that he did during and after the All Eyez On Me recording sessions. U've heard his collaborations! Would Snoop or Dre collaborate with those artist on that level? U've heard his interview at that time and what he Yeah, 2Pac put 2pacalypse Now but, he's always rep tha west coast (even at tha time). His content was different back then and as time went on that changed. Come on now, buy tha records and look at tha videos and tell me 2Pac didn't put it down. Dr. Dre is tha godfather of that of tha west coast (hardcore hip hop/gangsta rap) and Ice-T is tha father of tha hardcore hip hop/gangsta rap. I'mma fan of all but that's just real shit.
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kings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the moment
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Pac wasn't the king of the West. to be king u gotta be born and raised in whatever 2 b king of. Pac wasn't born or raised in the west 4 that matter. U say he was 15 when he moved out Cali and when 2pacolypse Now came out he was 19/20... sorry my man Pac still had a lil' more westside livin' 2 claim westside. Now if Pac woulda dropped his 1st album when he was like 23/24 talkin westside and shit then it'll be like okay, u can claim that shit but dont forget where u came from (which he obviously did ultimately).
Pac wasn't in the trenches long enuff out West 2 be hollarin tha shit and throwin' it up on tha album cover. It takes 4yrs to graduate from college, not the streets.
Now if Pac was comin' out like I'm an Eastcoast nigga ridin' on tha Westside and livin' this Westside Life then shit would just smooth over (like it hasn't already) but u see wat im gettin at.
I'm sorry but i'm 20, and if I moved out 2 Phoenix for the next 5 years and grinded in those streets and made a name for myself, i wouldn't start hollarin out Westside n shit (niggaz wouldn't even allow me 2 come home back 2 da DMV). But Pac was still a kid tho, he probably was just lookin 4 tha "appeal" thing and the Westcoast was hot then and it kinda made a lil sense at the time I bet, but still- that shit is fake no matter how u try 2 cut it.
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not saying i agree or disagree
but people who say that Pac only started reppin the West when he signed to Death Row..
even back in 93 he was saying that every praise he gets as an artist should go to Oakland and the West and every award he got should've also gone to the West and etc
so he did always claim the West..
i think he said himself that when he came out he really didnt claim either east or west cuz he always figured that hip-hop was all 1 nation and it really didn't matter, especially since he lived on both the east and the west..
but i guess he felt like he could identify with the west more once everybody started claiming where they were from and all that..and it got even more extreme with all his beefs and whatnot
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not saying i agree or disagree
but people who say that Pac only started reppin the West when he signed to Death Row..
even back in 93 he was saying that every praise he gets as an artist should go to Oakland and the West and every award he got should've also gone to the West and etc
so he did always claim the West..
i think he said himself that when he came out he really didnt claim either east or west cuz he always figured that hip-hop was all 1 nation and it really didn't matter, especially since he lived on both the east and the west..
but i guess he felt like he could identify with the west more once everybody started claiming where they were from and all that..and it got even more extreme with all his beefs and whatnot
No just like u said he always claimed the West. That's the problem. Pac wasn't "neutral" so to say when it came down 2 representin' where u from. He never talked about Brooklyn or Baltimore where he grew up at,,,, never. He may have referenced it *brooklyn* in a song or two im sure but that still doesn't make up for all of that "w" shit he was doin'.
and about the beef thing in tha last sentence u stated. that's the moronic part on Pac... how r u gonna beef with everybody where ur from and then ride 4 tha otha side like them niggaz had ur back since u was snatchin' little debbies in ur pocket when u waz a kid. all of a sudden it's westside til i die and u only been out there for a few years. sounds like he took a trip 2 vegas and nevr wanted 2 come back home or he was scared niggaz waz gonna fuck wit him bcuz he was a baltimore/brooklyn nigga and bk/ny was hatin' on tha west at that time so he ain't wanna come off as an outsider.
Lesane Parish Crooks is my man, but let's not 4get wat would happen if some1 waz on that shit 2day. they wouldn't make it past the 2nd mixtape
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Pac wasn't the king of the West. to be king u gotta be born and raised in whatever 2 b king of. Pac wasn't born or raised in the west 4 that matter. U say he was 15 when he moved out Cali and when 2pacolypse Now came out he was 19/20... sorry my man Pac still had a lil' more westside livin' 2 claim westside. Now if Pac woulda dropped his 1st album when he was like 23/24 talkin westside and shit then it'll be like okay, u can claim that shit but dont forget where u came from (which he obviously did ultimately).
Pac wasn't in the trenches long enuff out West 2 be hollarin tha shit and throwin' it up on tha album cover. It takes 4yrs to graduate from college, not the streets.
Now if Pac was comin' out like I'm an Eastcoast nigga ridin' on tha Westside and livin' this Westside Life then shit would just smooth over (like it hasn't already) but u see wat im gettin at.
I'm sorry but i'm 20, and if I moved out 2 Phoenix for the next 5 years and grinded in those streets and made a name for myself, i wouldn't start hollarin out Westside n shit (niggaz wouldn't even allow me 2 come home back 2 da DMV). But Pac was still a kid tho, he probably was just lookin 4 tha "appeal" thing and the Westcoast was hot then and it kinda made a lil sense at the time I bet, but still- that shit is fake no matter how u try 2 cut it.
i aint no lil kid im a lot older than you are, your opinion seems to be a hatorade type of opinion. pac was from the east but he never claimed the east and when he did try to rectify that they tried to kill him, i mean the eastcoast jealousy of pac is still felt today. look at that faggot ass jay-z throwing lil shots at a dead man, look at that sickle cell muthafucka still hating from a jail cell...its pretty obvious everyone knowz pac was from the east but if he aint claiming the east then u have no argument period end of story...u just a typical eastcoast hating fan they all the same when they see someone outshine them they hate, especially someone from they own turf ;) it just that the west outsold them so much that they couldnt handle it...puff & them fools got mad that pac wouldnt sign to bad boy thats all can u blame em common they wasnt no real money at bad boy and death row's numbers proved that...just face it nigga the sun rises in the east but it sets in the west.... ;)
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People wern't buying All Eyez On Me for the lyrics, or Hip Hop value, whereas people were buying Ready To Die for the Hip Hop value of it, the more articulate aspect of it... 2Pac's was a far larger album to begin with (double album) with so much variety, stars, and hits, and the controversy around him made him an appealing star in the public eye. People just bought into it with this album, because being honest. Content, and lyrical wise Me Against The World, and Makaveli were doper albums. All Eyez On Me was more pop, so undoubtedly he would attain a bigger reception in terms of sales, it doesn't make him king of West Hip Hop, it just means he makes most money, but money isn't a precidence for skill and ability
Are you trying to say All Eyes on Me was a more pop album than Ready to Die? Nigga please.
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Pac wasn't even from tha West. He was born in NY then moved 2 Bmore, and then when he was like 16/17 he moved out to Cali. He was only on "the westcoast" for like 2 years b4 he started goin' worldwide. Pac can't claim "westside" like that. He lived out BMore or Brooklyn far longer than he did Oakland (that's some fake ass shit tbh). I never got that shit. I mean i get tha whole, it ain't where u from its where u at or anything of that nature but u can't say/claim/represent to death (literally) another coast where ur not from. Pac was a dumbass/dickhead/cockrider/swagger-jacker/bangwagoner 4 that
Pac might have been born on tha East Coast but was reppin The West 2 tha fullest he didn't start rappin till he came to tha West Tha Bay put Pac on Tha East ain't do shit but try to KILL him how can he hold down tha East when niggaz try'n to MURK him tha West had nothin but love for Pac so he had nothin but love foe tha West Coast you probably AIN'T EVEN FROM THA WEST COAST sayin some stupid shit like dat.
i hate wen ppl try 2 argue dum shit bcuz they have nothing else to do.
its been documented in every 2pac doc that he wrote poetry since he was dam near a baby. so Pac has always been writing. Pac also went 2 tha BMore School of Performing Arts for Music, it might of been dance but i dont think so. So Pac was really a Westside Bandwagoner at tha time (truthfully speaking). He was born and RAISED in tha East and moved out 2 Cali right b4 he blew. Pac was fake 4 that, and alot of ppl 2 this day from tha DMV got a lil' beef (so to say) wit Pac bcuz of that fact alone, especially out BMore.
Now somehow, someway we still have ppl with this 2001 DeathRow Records mentality. Claiming Dre hasn't done shit 4 tha West but whole time, Dre is the West and always has been. Dre planted seeds in tha West and watched em ALL (most) grow worldwide. R u mad bcuz he rode wit 50 instead of Hittman? get over it, 50 shits on 90& of the artist Dre signed in tha past 10 years anyways.
If DeathRow woulda never unfolded tha way it did (dre leaving, snoop's murder case, 2pac's death, suge's bs). everybody from deathrow only exclusivly working with each other on each and every song put out. y'all would be like okay... all of their music sounds tha same, it's so uninspired, it's so stagnet, gfunk is played out, etc.
Last, the most important thing all of. Pac isn't from the West and he can't be the King of The West unless ur talking about the US *being on tha western part of the planet* Like, u can't be born and raised in the UK and then move 2 Atlanta and get something popping off a year later, you can't be like "im king of tha dirty south", or "i run ny". You're gonna see Drake lose alotta love 4 startin 2 act like and talk about shit like he's from tha States.
Pac spent several years in Cali before his rap career took off. Obviously he liked it better than the place he grew up in. Nothing wrong with that.
Lets not forget that he didn't really start claiming hardcore west coast until he signed to Death Row in 95. At that point he had been living in the west for 7 years. That's definitely a long enough time to start repping an area as your own.
What would have been fake is if he had been living in Cali, rapping in Cali but claiming New York in his songs.
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Pac wasn't the king of the West. to be king u gotta be born and raised in whatever 2 b king of. Pac wasn't born or raised in the west 4 that matter. U say he was 15 when he moved out Cali and when 2pacolypse Now came out he was 19/20... sorry my man Pac still had a lil' more westside livin' 2 claim westside. Now if Pac woulda dropped his 1st album when he was like 23/24 talkin westside and shit then it'll be like okay, u can claim that shit but dont forget where u came from (which he obviously did ultimately).
Pac wasn't in the trenches long enuff out West 2 be hollarin tha shit and throwin' it up on tha album cover. It takes 4yrs to graduate from college, not the streets.
Now if Pac was comin' out like I'm an Eastcoast nigga ridin' on tha Westside and livin' this Westside Life then shit would just smooth over (like it hasn't already) but u see wat im gettin at.
I'm sorry but i'm 20, and if I moved out 2 Phoenix for the next 5 years and grinded in those streets and made a name for myself, i wouldn't start hollarin out Westside n shit (niggaz wouldn't even allow me 2 come home back 2 da DMV). But Pac was still a kid tho, he probably was just lookin 4 tha "appeal" thing and the Westcoast was hot then and it kinda made a lil sense at the time I bet, but still- that shit is fake no matter how u try 2 cut it.
u dont have to be born there to be king, the people choose their king, and kingdoms have also been seized by force
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Pac wasn't the king of the West. to be king u gotta be born and raised in whatever 2 b king of. Pac wasn't born or raised in the west 4 that matter. U say he was 15 when he moved out Cali and when 2pacolypse Now came out he was 19/20... sorry my man Pac still had a lil' more westside livin' 2 claim westside. Now if Pac woulda dropped his 1st album when he was like 23/24 talkin westside and shit then it'll be like okay, u can claim that shit but dont forget where u came from (which he obviously did ultimately).
Pac wasn't in the trenches long enuff out West 2 be hollarin tha shit and throwin' it up on tha album cover. It takes 4yrs to graduate from college, not the streets.
Now if Pac was comin' out like I'm an Eastcoast nigga ridin' on tha Westside and livin' this Westside Life then shit would just smooth over (like it hasn't already) but u see wat im gettin at.
I'm sorry but i'm 20, and if I moved out 2 Phoenix for the next 5 years and grinded in those streets and made a name for myself, i wouldn't start hollarin out Westside n shit (niggaz wouldn't even allow me 2 come home back 2 da DMV). But Pac was still a kid tho, he probably was just lookin 4 tha "appeal" thing and the Westcoast was hot then and it kinda made a lil sense at the time I bet, but still- that shit is fake no matter how u try 2 cut it.
u dont have to be born there to be king, the people choose their king, and kingdoms have also been seized by force
If I'm not mistaken somebody has to take the crown for a person to no longer be king. Who would you consider the king of the west right now?
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Pac wasn't the king of the West. to be king u gotta be born and raised in whatever 2 b king of. Pac wasn't born or raised in the west 4 that matter. U say he was 15 when he moved out Cali and when 2pacolypse Now came out he was 19/20... sorry my man Pac still had a lil' more westside livin' 2 claim westside. Now if Pac woulda dropped his 1st album when he was like 23/24 talkin westside and shit then it'll be like okay, u can claim that shit but dont forget where u came from (which he obviously did ultimately).
Pac wasn't in the trenches long enuff out West 2 be hollarin tha shit and throwin' it up on tha album cover. It takes 4yrs to graduate from college, not the streets.
Now if Pac was comin' out like I'm an Eastcoast nigga ridin' on tha Westside and livin' this Westside Life then shit would just smooth over (like it hasn't already) but u see wat im gettin at.
I'm sorry but i'm 20, and if I moved out 2 Phoenix for the next 5 years and grinded in those streets and made a name for myself, i wouldn't start hollarin out Westside n shit (niggaz wouldn't even allow me 2 come home back 2 da DMV). But Pac was still a kid tho, he probably was just lookin 4 tha "appeal" thing and the Westcoast was hot then and it kinda made a lil sense at the time I bet, but still- that shit is fake no matter how u try 2 cut it.
u dont have to be born there to be king, the people choose their king, and kingdoms have also been seized by force
If I'm not mistaken somebody has to take the crown for a person to no longer be king. Who would you consider the king of the west right now?
well like i said the people can choose their king and it seems as if we have chosen game no matter how terrible a king he may be, but then some may say snoop, or cube its not a clear cut picture
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Pac isn't anymore WestCoast than Too $hort is Southern. Deal with it.
I know that's y'all hero and all but don't catch feelings and call me a hater and everybody else a hater (on this side) bcuz Pac was hood hoppin'. And actually if he was rappin about Cali and claiming BALTIMORE then it woulda made more sense. And to tha faggie who said he's older than me, act like it. There's no need 2 bash out and ur not talkin any knowledge- u bitched out 4 that.
But if people (who probably havent even stepped foot in Cali) wanna go back n forth all day u got it. Just don't act like Pac wasn't living out here MOST of his life. This is where MOST of his inspiration came from. He woulda been on some 6'foez and bandanna swangin shit more than the motivational/revolutionary shit.
King of the West now would have 2 b Snoop hands down or Dr. Dre, it's really a toss up. I'd throw Cube in that slot but dude just wasn't on the music scene strong like he was up until 99'. Hell, if Eazy wouldn't of died he woulda been the king of the West, he had Cali and some of the Mid-West on lock, u couldn't travel half way across tha US without somebody fuckin' wit niggaz form Ruthless. But Snoop has been crankin' since 91' and Dre has been crankin' music since 85'/86'. Pac 1992-1996, that's not long enough. That's just like when ppl say BIG was tha GOAT but he only dropped 3 albums and was only around for 4 yrs. If BIG was around 2day and nothin happend and Big L woulda never got mirked, alot of us would been singing a different tune. If Eazy wouldn't have died and Pac wouldn't have died and Cube was tryna make his music more universal (produce more albums instead of movies) then we couldn't call that shit.
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dPac wasn't the king of the West. to be king u gotta be born and raised in whatever 2 b king of. Pac wasn't born or raised in the west 4 that matter. U say he was 15 when he moved out Cali and when 2pacolypse Now came out he was 19/20... sorry my man Pac still had a lil' more westside livin' 2 claim westside. Now if Pac woulda dropped his 1st album when he was like 23/24 talkin westside and shit then it'll be like okay, u can claim that shit but dont forget where u came from (which he obviously did ultimately).
Pac wasn't in the trenches long enuff out West 2 be hollarin tha shit and throwin' it up on tha album cover. It takes 4yrs to graduate from college, not the streets.
Now if Pac was comin' out like I'm an Eastcoast nigga ridin' on tha Westside and livin' this Westside Life then shit would just smooth over (like it hasn't already) but u see wat im gettin at.
I'm sorry but i'm 20, and if I moved out 2 Phoenix for the next 5 years and grinded in those streets and made a name for myself, i wouldn't start hollarin out Westside n shit (niggaz wouldn't even allow me 2 come home back 2 da DMV). But Pac was still a kid tho, he probably was just lookin 4 tha "appeal" thing and the Westcoast was hot then and it kinda made a lil sense at the time I bet, but still- that shit is fake no matter how u try 2 cut it.
u dont have to be born there to be king, the people choose their king, and kingdoms have also been seized by force
If I'm not mistaken somebody has to take the crown for a person to no longer be king. Who would you consider the king of the west right now?
well like i said the people can choose their king and it seems as if we have chosen game no matter how terrible a king he may be, but then some may say snoop, or cube its not a clear cut picture
We? I didn't have any part in that lol
I get what ur sayin tho
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when i say we i mean the west lol cuz i dint have any part in that either ???
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Pac isn't anymore WestCoast than Too $hort is Southern. Deal with it.
I know that's y'all hero and all but don't catch feelings and call me a hater and everybody else a hater (on this side) bcuz Pac was hood hoppin'. And actually if he was rappin about Cali and claiming BALTIMORE then it woulda made more sense. And to tha faggie who said he's older than me, act like it. There's no need 2 bash out and ur not talkin any knowledge- u bitched out 4 that.
But if people (who probably havent even stepped foot in Cali) wanna go back n forth all day u got it. Just don't act like Pac wasn't living out here MOST of his life. This is where MOST of his inspiration came from. He woulda been on some 6'foez and bandanna swangin shit more than the motivational/revolutionary shit.
King of the West now would have 2 b Snoop hands down or Dr. Dre, it's really a toss up. I'd throw Cube in that slot but dude just wasn't on the music scene strong like he was up until 99'. Hell, if Eazy wouldn't of died he woulda been the king of the West, he had Cali and some of the Mid-West on lock, u couldn't travel half way across tha US without somebody fuckin' wit niggaz form Ruthless. But Snoop has been crankin' since 91' and Dre has been crankin' music since 85'/86'. Pac 1992-1996, that's not long enough. That's just like when ppl say BIG was tha GOAT but he only dropped 3 albums and was only around for 4 yrs. If BIG was around 2day and nothin happend and Big L woulda never got mirked, alot of us would been singing a different tune. If Eazy wouldn't have died and Pac wouldn't have died and Cube was tryna make his music more universal (produce more albums instead of movies) then we couldn't call that shit.
im sure u got the point regardless of wat i said & how i said it and the only fag i see catching feelings is your homo azz & wit this i wrap it up wit u & fuck knowledge on a forum do it in real life.... :)
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when i say we i mean the west lol cuz i dint have any part in that either ???
lol Damn, that gives me even more of a reason to say fuck the west.
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Quote from: Ridah662 on Yesterday at 03:35:38 PM
we obviously have a few eastcoast dickriders that hate on pac and for good reason...i mean how does it feel that pac being from the east and he reppin the west...its sad, the east tried to kill pac cause their jealousy of him and how the west came up and the east fell off....so keep on hating that means the west still on top of the east even in a recession...the whole east dickrides pac for the wrong reasons and they aint makin any money at it...
ok 1st off u bitch nigga, ain't nobody hatin' on Pac. i know ur talkin about me bcuz of that dumbass shit u said about the East. Ain't nobody jealous of Pac and damn sure ain't nobody hatin' on Pac.
But lets kick it real here 4 a second, if u were from Compton and Ghostface Killah was from Compton and he moved 2 NY for a record deal and to record an album and on tha whole album and all in the interviews and all on tha everything he repped the Mid-Atlantic or the East Coast u would b like this nigga's buggin'.
We all love and respect Pac (all over the world we do) but just bcuz he's dead and he's an icon doesn't mean muthafuckaz aint gonna keep it 100 wen it's time (Spider). But Pac was a hoe 4 tha shit that he said/did, especially when he started tryna be a blood, that shit wasn't hot. U ain't really here shit about "westside" thuggin', im a kalifornia rydah, and all that other westside bs until he got wit DeathRow and was hangin' around Suge. Do ya research, before Suge u rarely caught Pac in red and throwin' up W's. All of a sudden when he gets outta jail it's WorldWideWestside nawty that nigga's trippin'.
that's why he ain't come back 2 tha East like that, he knew muthafuckas was gonna eat him up out here (And for good reason). Pac was scared 2 come out 2 the East. Wasn't nobody jealous of Pac lol! wtf was there 2 b jealous about? Bcuz niggaz from anotha coast was finally gettin' some radio play or a few time slots on TV lmao!? ur buggin'... Real niggaz ain't bout no fakin', and Pac was clearly fakin' and shit got addressed (orlando anderson was from Ny).
I wish it ain't go down like that niether, but don't expect niggaz 2 just let u shit on em. Jay dissed tha westside and has been out there fluently ever since, ain't nobody throwin shots at Jay... stop tryna syse (hyped) shit. real recognize real, and Pac was cleary violatin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_MdQU6h7kM
Pac "king of the west" nooooo! Dre "king of the West" or Snoop "king of the west". Ice T is a better fit for the king of the west than Pac. i can't argue wit lil niggas about nonsense. ur wasting my time and everybody elses' who comes across this.
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Pac was reppin tha West Coast before he went 2 deathrow you Fuckin Idiot YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH and Jay-Z don't do shows in Cali he spooked
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Quote from: Ridah662 on Yesterday at 03:35:38 PM
we obviously have a few eastcoast dickriders that hate on pac and for good reason...i mean how does it feel that pac being from the east and he reppin the west...its sad, the east tried to kill pac cause their jealousy of him and how the west came up and the east fell off....so keep on hating that means the west still on top of the east even in a recession...the whole east dickrides pac for the wrong reasons and they aint makin any money at it...
ok 1st off u bitch nigga, ain't nobody hatin' on Pac. i know ur talkin about me bcuz of that dumbass shit u said about the East. Ain't nobody jealous of Pac and damn sure ain't nobody hatin' on Pac.
But lets kick it real here 4 a second, if u were from Compton and Ghostface Killah was from Compton and he moved 2 NY for a record deal and to record an album and on tha whole album and all in the interviews and all on tha everything he repped the Mid-Atlantic or the East Coast u would b like this nigga's buggin'.
We all love and respect Pac (all over the world we do) but just bcuz he's dead and he's an icon doesn't mean muthafuckaz aint gonna keep it 100 wen it's time (Spider). But Pac was a hoe 4 tha shit that he said/did, especially when he started tryna be a blood, that shit wasn't hot. U ain't really here shit about "westside" thuggin', im a kalifornia rydah, and all that other westside bs until he got wit DeathRow and was hangin' around Suge. Do ya research, before Suge u rarely caught Pac in red and throwin' up W's. All of a sudden when he gets outta jail it's WorldWideWestside nawty that nigga's trippin'.
that's why he ain't come back 2 tha East like that, he knew muthafuckas was gonna eat him up out here (And for good reason). Pac was scared 2 come out 2 the East. Wasn't nobody jealous of Pac lol! wtf was there 2 b jealous about? Bcuz niggaz from anotha coast was finally gettin' some radio play or a few time slots on TV lmao!? ur buggin'... Real niggaz ain't bout no fakin', and Pac was clearly fakin' and shit got addressed (orlando anderson was from Ny).
I wish it ain't go down like that niether, but don't expect niggaz 2 just let u shit on em. Jay dissed tha westside and has been out there fluently ever since, ain't nobody throwin shots at Jay... stop tryna syse (hyped) shit. real recognize real, and Pac was cleary violatin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_MdQU6h7kM
Pac "king of the west" nooooo! Dre "king of the West" or Snoop "king of the west". Ice T is a better fit for the king of the west than Pac. i can't argue wit lil niggas about nonsense. ur wasting my time and everybody elses' who comes across this.
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Pac was reppin tha West Coast before he went 2 deathrow you Fuckin Idiot YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH and Jay-Z don't do shows in Cali he spooked
jay is spooked, puff is spooked the east know better by now, its shame biggie had to get it for them to find out....
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some bitches like 2pac haters will always claiming pac wasn't from the west because he was born on the east..
people forget that he was raised by the oakland community, he was a straight westcoast ridah...
therefore, kurupt was borned in midwest so who anybody is claiming he ain't from westcoast? lol..
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not saying i agree or disagree
but people who say that Pac only started reppin the West when he signed to Death Row..
even back in 93 he was saying that every praise he gets as an artist should go to Oakland and the West and every award he got should've also gone to the West and etc
so he did always claim the West..
i think he said himself that when he came out he really didnt claim either east or west cuz he always figured that hip-hop was all 1 nation and it really didn't matter, especially since he lived on both the east and the west..
but i guess he felt like he could identify with the west more once everybody started claiming where they were from and all that..and it got even more extreme with all his beefs and whatnot
No just like u said he always claimed the West. That's the problem. Pac wasn't "neutral" so to say when it came down 2 representin' where u from. He never talked about Brooklyn or Baltimore where he grew up at,,,, never. He may have referenced it *brooklyn* in a song or two im sure but that still doesn't make up for all of that "w" shit he was doin'.
and about the beef thing in tha last sentence u stated. that's the moronic part on Pac... how r u gonna beef with everybody where ur from and then ride 4 tha otha side like them niggaz had ur back since u was snatchin' little debbies in ur pocket when u waz a kid. all of a sudden it's westside til i die and u only been out there for a few years. sounds like he took a trip 2 vegas and nevr wanted 2 come back home or he was scared niggaz waz gonna fuck wit him bcuz he was a baltimore/brooklyn nigga and bk/ny was hatin' on tha west at that time so he ain't wanna come off as an outsider.
Lesane Parish Crooks is my man, but let's not 4get wat would happen if some1 waz on that shit 2day. they wouldn't make it past the 2nd mixtape
but how can u say "how u gonna beef with everybody where u from" when it actually was most of them eastcoast cats that came @ pac 1st? ie mobb deep, chino xl (who know claims the westcoast without no problem from nobody), biggie took shots, fugees etc etc..
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some1 give kick 4rm 301 a dummy 2 suck on or evn better he can suck on my dick! hahaha
stop hatin n chattin fake ass bullshit! like we all know u mad coz the west outdid the east n pac played a role in that which obviously troubles u eastcoast cats! wat u expect? u sold the man out! thats how ya'll operate on that side, like ratz!
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LOL @ this faggot talking bout Pac when he was 6 years old when Pac died. Bitch ass nigga reading history books while the rest of us lived it. EPIC FAIL! Pac is WEST COAST since 2Pacolypse Now, the world KNOWS him as WEST COAST, DEAL WITH IT.
Too bad he didn't wanna claim garbage ass 301 DMV area... go listen to Wale featuring Lady Gaga faggot, Pac is the GOAT
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But if people (who probably havent even stepped foot in Cali) wanna go back n forth all day u got it. Just don't act like Pac wasn't living out here MOST of his life. This is where MOST of his inspiration came from. He woulda been on some 6'foez and bandanna swangin shit more than the motivational/revolutionary shit.
Bay Area dont fukk wit bandannas swangin and six foes u fukkin moron... get ur facts straight idiot... Pac rapped about revolutionary shit umm because his MOM was a BLACK PANTHER? a organization that was created in OAKLAND.. the city 2Pac claimed since his first professional album 2Pacalypse Now... "once again its your friend outta oakland"
Baltimore aint even really East... yall are southern below the mason dixon so stop swingin from NY's nuts.. FAIL!
next ur gonna tell me Slick Rick is a London rapper and not NY cause he moved to NY when he was 13.. get the fuk outta here faggot
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King of the West now would have 2 b Snoop hands down or Dr. Dre
how can you say it's snoop hands down, when most people say he's fallen off, or is a sell out? most comments even on this forum, on the subject, say his music after Doggystyle has barely even been worthwhile. what about his most recent album - how many people are actually huge fans of ego trippin? and the leaks i've come across from MIW have been pretty shit imo. btw, don't accuse me of hating on snoop, i like him, i just don't think he is worthy of being labelled king of the west.
and dre - i guess you could claim him. but then again, his last album was a decade ago, and what has he done since then? worked with mainly east coast artists. and that's mainly on production, not even anything solo. again, not hating, just saying it how i see it.
although cube's music hasn't been of the standard it was in the 90s, he has been the most consistent of all the big names from the west.
and regardless of what you think of him, the game has undoubtedly been the most successful west coast rapper in recent years.
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imo yukmouth or c-bo are more suited to be king of the west!
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lol @ all the dummies gettin' mad that I pulled out Pac's card and they can't get deal with it. lol, me jealous, naw look at all y'all geekin'. LOL! how bout all y'all got Pac's dick stuck in y'all mouthz. Pac waz from the East, Raised in the East, and died on the West. done deal, enough said. Pac even has a baltimore accent, that's wat exposes him the most. The only time he doesn't sound like he's from Baltimore is when he pronounces his 2's.
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if tupac was resurrected heŽd shoot himself instantly because of the wigger disease that praise him as their god
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if tupac was resurrected heŽd shoot himself instantly because of the wigger disease that praise him as their god
So so true. And i'm not even tryna be disrespectful. keep rootin 4 tha man, just do it with class and facts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke9Xy3TzKgw&feature=PlayList&p=F2FF8A009A81A62A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=25
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Pac lived in Cali for 3 years before he started his rap career. That's more than enough time to start claiming a place as your own.
Baltimore accent? Bullshit. Pac lived in Baltimore for two years and was already in his teens by then.
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Pac lived in Cali for 3 years before he started his rap career. That's more than enough time to start claiming a place as your own.
Baltimore accent? Bullshit. Pac lived in Baltimore for two years and was already in his teens by then.
so it takes 3 yrs to make it your "Home" and 2 yrs is just something that passed by? right. And Pac was like 8 or 9 when he moved out bmore for like the next 6/7 yrs wtf are u talking about? It might've been a lil' longer than that. The nigga was born in BK and stayed there until BMore (actually i think he lived in Jersey b4 he moved 2 Bmore). Get it right man. And Pac does have a BMore accent, i'm guessin' u think every last person in Baltimore sounds exactly like Snoop huh?
but it's been like 3 days now. google the nigga and find his roots. Pac is a Eastside nigga that was fuckin' wit' a buncha Eastcoast niggas. The only Westside niggas he was makin' moves like that was tha nigga's from The Bay (mainly Oakland, for obvious reasons) and niggas on DeathRow. Tha Outlawz, ThugLife, and all them other niggas (most) u hear Pac on on the Makaveli Bootlegs were from the East.
That's wat makes the nigga so confusing. Mostly everybody he delt wit thru out his career was from the East until he got 2 DeathRow. Stop making something outta nothing. Pac = Eastside and Pac = Worldwide. Stop actin' like a fuckin' school girl, all of u. Stop makin' the WestCoast look like a buncha hatin' ass niggas foreal. u givin' tha coast and Pac a bad name.
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Enough of this "king" shit. This isn't Merry old England. Pac was one of the most influential artists to come out of the West but the whole question of who's the leader is pointless. The guys with the strength and influence to lead the West Coast are doing their own thing. The guys who actually want to claim the crown don't have enough pull. It's no kings and princes! It's a bunch of rappers making money.
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Pac lived in Cali for 3 years before he started his rap career. That's more than enough time to start claiming a place as your own.
Baltimore accent? Bullshit. Pac lived in Baltimore for two years and was already in his teens by then.
so it takes 3 yrs to make it your "Home" and 2 yrs is just something that passed by? right. And Pac was like 8 or 9 when he moved out bmore for like the next 6/7 yrs wtf are u talking about? It might've been a lil' longer than that. The nigga was born in BK and stayed there until BMore (actually i think he lived in Jersey b4 he moved 2 Bmore). Get it right man. And Pac does have a BMore accent, i'm guessin' u think every last person in Baltimore sounds exactly like Snoop huh?
but it's been like 3 days now. google the nigga and find his roots. Pac is a Eastside nigga that was fuckin' wit' a buncha Eastcoast niggas. The only Westside niggas he was makin' moves like that was tha nigga's from The Bay (mainly Oakland, for obvious reasons) and niggas on DeathRow. Tha Outlawz, ThugLife, and all them other niggas (most) u hear Pac on on the Makaveli Bootlegs were from the East.
That's wat makes the nigga so confusing. Mostly everybody he delt wit thru out his career was from the East until he got 2 DeathRow. Stop making something outta nothing. Pac = Eastside and Pac = Worldwide. Stop actin' like a fuckin' school girl, all of u. Stop makin' the WestCoast look like a buncha hatin' ass niggas foreal. u givin' tha coast and Pac a bad name.
3 years is definitely a long enough time to make a place your home. I've lived in Davis for a year now so I've got a right to call it my home. The only reason I don't is because it sucks here.
I never said 2 years passes by, don't put words in my mouth. Pac was already 15 by the time he moved to Baltimore and you want to act like he has an accent like he spent all his life there. I call bullshit when I see it. Pac didn't have an accent. If Pac had stayed in Baltimore he could've called Baltimore his home as well. But he moved to Cali and obviously he liked it better here. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
You are making this into something its not. And you are the one sounding like a hater. Trying to claim Pac as east coast when he NEVER claimed east coast and dedicated entire songs to the west coast. You think you know better than Pac himself what side he wants to show love? Nigga please. Pac would come out of his grave and backhand you for trying to tell him where he should claim.
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Y is this faggot aurging why a dead man can't/shouldn't have repped a coast he repped harder than people who lived there all their lives.
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Mostly everybody he delt wit thru out his career was from the East until he got 2 DeathRow.
ahah....so I suppose Digital Underground, Shock G didn't exist? It for sure wasn't Puffy who put him on. What about all the bay rappers he worked with? Who exactly are all these east coast people he dealt with? Get out of here with your bullshit.
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Y is this faggot aurging why a dead man can't/shouldn't have repped a coast he repped harder than people who lived there all their lives.
exactly. If someone came up to me trying to tell me where I should rep I'd give them a smack.
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When You think of PAC , you think of the DUB sign just automatically
not many rappers done dat. which means pac repd westcoast harder than any muufuckas in 90'
he was pretty much the king
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lol @ all the dummies gettin' mad that I pulled out Pac's card and they can't get deal with it. lol, me jealous, naw look at all y'all geekin'. LOL! how bout all y'all got Pac's dick stuck in y'all mouthz. Pac waz from the East, Raised in the East, and died on the West. done deal, enough said. Pac even has a baltimore accent, that's wat exposes him the most. The only time he doesn't sound like he's from Baltimore is when he pronounces his 2's.
i bet you would have pac's dick in your mouth quicker than anyone else, u seem to b a lil suspect.... ;)
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Baltimore's claim to fame is Dru Hill... Sisqo is y'all hardest singer/rapper LOL! That's why this faggot trying to claim Pac. He insecure that his area DMV is irrelevant in Hip Hop. Tryin' to hang on to the West Coast nuts for fame.
You said rappers claiming areas they aren't originally from won't fly in this day and age? You a dumb faggot. Ludacris born and raised in Illinois, claims Atlanta and is accepted. Chamillionaire from DC (your area) but claim Houston. Gucci Mane from Alabama claim Atlanta, Jeezy from Macon claim Atlanta and many many more... u lost faggot
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Baltimore's claim to fame is Dru Hill... Sisqo is y'all hardest singer/rapper LOL! That's why this faggot trying to claim Pac. He insecure that his area DMV is irrelevant in Hip Hop. Tryin' to hang on to the West Coast nuts for fame.
You said rappers claiming areas they aren't originally from won't fly in this day and age? You a dumb faggot. Ludacris born and raised in Illinois, claims Atlanta and is accepted. Chamillionaire from DC (your area) but claim Houston. Gucci Mane from Alabama claim Atlanta, Jeezy from Macon claim Atlanta and many many more... u lost faggot
Exactly, even Ice T was from Jersey, and moved out to L.A. and lived his life. Its only a problem when you Claim it, but you haven't even spent a year in the area. Like you get signed, and move out to that area.
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Pac isn't anymore WestCoast than Too $hort is Southern. Deal with it.
Hell, if Eazy wouldn't of died he woulda been the king of the West, he had Cali and some of the Mid-West on lock, u couldn't travel half way across tha US without somebody fuckin' wit niggaz form Ruthless. .
well he was only about 7 when pac died so he didnt know how big pac was on the west coast. he basically googled everything including the above quote, no doubt eazy E was big but why refer it to as you lived in that era? way too many documentarys and googling instead of actually living in that era. :grumpy:
Doesnt matter how many years he lived in cali, heck wasnt Daz from texas before he jumped on to deathrow?
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What this idiot doesn't realize is that Pac ALWAYS repped the Bay Area since he moved out to California, since his first album.
In Baltimore he was still MC New York but once he lived that Cali lifestyle all that shit went out the window, cause he learned all his game in California. All his slang was Bay Area slang, which is why on his first two albums he ONLY mentioned Oakland and the Bay, never New York or Baltimore.
All in all, the world knows Pac as a West Coast rapper, which he was, TAKE THAT TAKE THAT TAKE THAT - "Puffy"
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kings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the moment
READ the title of the thread ::)
Pac WAS really The King of the West
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kings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the moment
READ the title of the thread ::)
Pac WAS really The King of the West
fuck that, kings don't stop being kings just cause they pass.....pac will alwayz b tha king of the west & east as well, the whole eastcoast gotta swallow that no matter what.....especially 301 baltimore, maryland ;)
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kings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the moment
READ the title of the thread ::)
Pac WAS really The King of the West
fuck that, kings don't stop being kings just cause they pass.....pac will alwayz b tha king of the west & east as well, the whole eastcoast gotta swallow that no matter what.....especially 301 baltimore, maryland ;)
Eh, 2pac is one of the greats, and a legend on the west, but he can't truly be called that cause of a few things.
1. He didn't impact anything in rap until Me Against The World.
2. All Eyez, sold out to The G-Funk Sound that was hot at the time. Strange how Lethal Injection was Chastise, yet All Eyez gets nothing but praise, despite a entire second disk of Filler?
3. The Fact that unlike Dr. Dre or even Snoop, his First Album wasn't innovated, didn't become a major critical success that truly affected how California Rap grew.
Basically he didn't get huge until Me Against The World, eventually becoming huger with All Eyez, and Reaching a Crucial point with Makaveli Post-Death.
So, Is he the king? No, other artist are more deserving then him, given they helped build West Coast Rap into what it was. But people keep buying into the hype that he was always a success as he was near his death. When in reality he was some what notable, and his Film Carrier had given him more attention then the average rapper, but with Dr. Dre's The Chronic, Snoops Doggystyle, Ice Cubes own carrier and his own films. He basically was stuck in the backround for awhile.
Me Against The World and Makaveli is were he left his mark in the industry.
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damn people still fightin over where 2pac is from....go to 4:48 mark and see what pac says in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NrUameuV0
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damn people still fightin over where 2pac is from....go to 4:48 mark and see what pac says in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NrUameuV0
the nigga still ain't from Cali.
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damn people still fightin over where 2pac is from....go to 4:48 mark and see what pac says in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NrUameuV0
the nigga still ain't from Cali.
Like My Nigga Rakim Said It Ain't Were Ya From Is Where You At..... ;)
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lol that pic in your sig, with pac n snoop, is that dame dash in the background??
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damn people still fightin over where 2pac is from....go to 4:48 mark and see what pac says in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NrUameuV0
the nigga still ain't from Cali.
i agree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bPuD_cJelY
Like My Nigga Rakim Said It Ain't Were Ya From Is Where You At..... ;)
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kings rise and fall, so to say pac is still the king is silly, and he was imported but he did hold this coast down like no one else ever has. its a touchy subject but it is what it is. pac isnt the king at the moment
READ the title of the thread ::)
Pac WAS really The King of the West
fuck that, kings don't stop being kings just cause they pass.....pac will alwayz b tha king of the west & east as well, the whole eastcoast gotta swallow that no matter what.....especially 301 baltimore, maryland ;)
Eh, 2pac is one of the greats, and a legend on the west, but he can't truly be called that cause of a few things.
1. He didn't impact anything in rap until Me Against The World.
2. All Eyez, sold out to The G-Funk Sound that was hot at the time. Strange how Lethal Injection was Chastise, yet All Eyez gets nothing but praise, despite a entire second disk of Filler?
3. The Fact that unlike Dr. Dre or even Snoop, his First Album wasn't innovated, didn't become a major critical success that truly affected how California Rap grew.
Basically he didn't get huge until Me Against The World, eventually becoming huger with All Eyez, and Reaching a Crucial point with Makaveli Post-Death.
So, Is he the king? No, other artist are more deserving then him, given they helped build West Coast Rap into what it was. But people keep buying into the hype that he was always a success as he was near his death. When in reality he was some what notable, and his Film Carrier had given him more attention then the average rapper, but with Dr. Dre's The Chronic, Snoops Doggystyle, Ice Cubes own carrier and his own films. He basically was stuck in the backround for awhile.
Me Against The World and Makaveli is were he left his mark in the industry.
Sorry but i couldnt agree less.Saying All eyez on me didnt effect the industry?Please.The first double album in rap history.Listen to albums that came out that same year and compare the production.All eyez on me still sounds fresh today where as everything else feels dated that year.The second disc had great tracks I dont where you get filler from.Wonda why they call u bitch is filler?Shorty wanna be a thug?The second disc is better then 95 percent of albums that come out today.
So because his first album wasnt game changing that matters?Id much rather take an artist that got better each album then an artist who peaked at his first album like snoop.2pacs best album was argueably his last.Snoop peaked with doggystyle and its been down hill ever since.Snoop is nowhere near a king.He just jumps from bandwagon to bandwagon each album.He went from death row to the most popular label at the time which was no limit.Then he worked with pharell,then timbo,had a lil jon track when it was hot,then did auto tune when it was hot,did a hyphy song,now his new album will have a jerkin song on it.Snoop is a follower not aleader.He doesnt set trends he follows them.That is not a king.
And what has dre done for the west in the last lets say ten years?NOTHING.Even game would have just been another artist dropped never to be heard from again if it werent for 50 cent.Dre himself had his career saved by eminem.Lets face it before eminem came along dre was going nowhere fast.
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Sorry but i couldnt agree less.Saying All eyez on me didnt effect the industry?Please.The first double album in rap history.Listen to albums that came out that same year and compare the production.All eyez on me still sounds fresh today where as everything else feels dated that year.The second disc had great tracks I dont where you get filler from.Wonda why they call u bitch is filler?Shorty wanna be a thug?The second disc is better then 95 percent of albums that come out today.
All Eyez On Me definitely affected the industry in a big way. Outside of that statement, I don't know where you're going. All Eyez is the only album from 1996 that still sounds fresh but EVERYTHING ELSE is dated?!?! How is it any more or less fresh than say, The Fugees' "The Score", Nas' "It Was Written", or Westside Connection's "Bow Down" for a few examples? And in comparing the second disc of AEOM to 95% of today's music, I'll give you that too. Seeing as 95% of today's music is probably three and a half stars or worse.
And what has dre done for the west in the last lets say ten years?NOTHING.Even game would have just been another artist dropped never to be heard from again if it werent for 50 cent.Dre himself had his career saved by eminem.Lets face it before eminem came along dre was going nowhere fast.
Nothing? Give me a fucking break! Cut the biased bullshit. What was the biggest national hip-hop tour headlined by West Coast rappers in the last ten years? And I'm guessing "2001" wasn't one of the biggest West Coast records in the last ten years. Or was it that way simply on the strength of Eminem and not based onyway on Dre's value as a producer/artist? Yes, Eminem and 50 Cent have brought quite a bit to Dre's empire but that does not by virtue of their involvement make his influence or input invalid? If Dre wasn't important in the last ten years, why are people still talking about Detox? We just got a Dre-produced Eminem album, this year, so if Eminem was the big factor in keeping Dre's name alive, his album should have made the whole world forget about Detox. 50 was a factor in Game's success but him being the first Dre protege to come out of the West in awhile was also a huge (and I'd say even bigger overall) factor in selling him as an artist. His entire second album was a dedication to Dr. Dre, both in sound and content. Then there was Xzibit who gained some pretty big national exposure once he started fucking with Dre's camp.
So let's call it how it is. Tupac created the ONLY album in 1996 that is actually timeless and Dre has done nothing for the West in ten years. It was all Eminem and 50 Cent. Nobody cared about Dre at all but all of a sudden by signing a white rapper that nobody had ever heard of, millions of people gave a shit all over again.
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Give me a break game sold because of 50 cent not because of dre.G unit was the hottest thing in the industry at that point and games first two singles featured him.Thats why he sold.Lke I said if 50 didnt take game in,game would just be another joe beast.
Like it or not eminem made dre relevant again.Aftermath compilation was a flop commerically and musically as was The firm.Dre seemed to be fading away to obscurity when jimmy iovine found eminem.Most of the slim shady lp was produced by the bass brothers,not dre.What artist from the west has dre helped in the last ten years?Xzibit was already a name when dre started working with him.2001 was full of people dre had already worked with.The only new name it produced was hittman and we all know where he went,the same place game would have gone without 50.
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And 2pac had people like c-bo,e-40,richie rich on his albums.He worked with everyone from the west and showed them all love.Dr.Dre doesnt seem interest in the coast at all so how can you call him the king of it.
Besides dre is only as good as his supporting cast.Thats why his beats right when he left death row were mediocre and generic.He had little money and couldnt afford a good supporting cast.Then eminem goes triple platinum and now hes got the resources to hire better musicians.Dr.Dre is only as good as the people around him.On his own,hes like snoop.
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Give me a break game sold because of 50 cent not because of dre.G unit was the hottest thing in the industry at that point and games first two singles featured him.Thats why he sold.Lke I said if 50 didnt take game in,game would just be another joe beast.
Like it or not eminem made dre relevant again.Aftermath compilation was a flop commerically and musically as was The firm.Dre seemed to be fading away to obscurity when jimmy iovine found eminem.Most of the slim shady lp was produced by the bass brothers,not dre.What artist from the west has dre helped in the last ten years?Xzibit was already a name when dre started working with him.2001 was full of people dre had already worked with.The only new name it produced was hittman and we all know where he went,the same place game would have gone without 50.
Its a two way street. For sure Eminem helped Dre stay relevant. But I sincerely doubt Eminem would have been the star he became without Dre. It was his association with Dre and the two Dre-produced hit singles that made him big. Lets not forget he already had a rap career before he signed to Aftermath. But the hype didn't come until he started working with Dre.
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Eminem is from the Westside... the MidWest. Sounds like Dre helped the West to me.
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Eminem is from the Westside... the MidWest. Sounds like Dre helped the West to me.
No, he helpped Detroit and Midwest. When they signed 50 they both helped show how marketable Club tracks are, as such the market is saturated with them.Fact is Dre is 1 of the legends and pretty much one of the main reasons why West Coast has stayed alive even though he doesn't claim.
First he help bring attention via N.W.A (Though it was more of a group effort). Then he defined a West Coast album with The Chronic. He rebrought back attention with his album 2001, and then in 2005 he brought the game who's pretty much the only other visible west Coast rapper currently.
He may not claim sides or anything, but the fact is what ever he puts his work into, he helps it gain popularity. It takes him and the artist he work with to do it though.
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Give me a break game sold because of 50 cent not because of dre.G unit was the hottest thing in the industry at that point and games first two singles featured him.Thats why he sold.Lke I said if 50 didnt take game in,game would just be another joe beast.
Like it or not eminem made dre relevant again.Aftermath compilation was a flop commerically and musically as was The firm.Dre seemed to be fading away to obscurity when jimmy iovine found eminem.Most of the slim shady lp was produced by the bass brothers,not dre.What artist from the west has dre helped in the last ten years?Xzibit was already a name when dre started working with him.2001 was full of people dre had already worked with.The only new name it produced was hittman and we all know where he went,the same place game would have gone without 50.
50 had a hand in because G-Unit was more of an active movement and they were able to actively push Game but again, you can have more than one person behind someone's success. You don't think the fact that The Game was one of the first new breakout artists from the West to have the Dre stamp had anything to do with it at all? Bullshit. When you look at G-Unit's previous two releases by Lloyd Banks and Young Buck, they did 2 million a piece while Game did 5 million. 50 was involved in all three but Dre was only directed credit with one.
Aftermath and Firm compilations were flops? Both releases went platinum and Firm debuted at #1. They were critically-panned no doubt but keep in mind that creatively, they were going in a much different direction than most Dre fans were accustomed to. There was only one Dre performance on the Aftermath album and more than half of it was produced by other producers. He hadn't worked with Snoop since Death Row and while you're eager to point out that Eminem brought him back to the spotlight, a lot of 2001's selling power and interest was created off the publicity of the Dre-Snoop reunion. The capper of an ensemble Dre performance at the VMA's was Snoop coming onstage to perform "G Thang" with him. A lot of fucking publicity was directed around this. He was in no danger of fading into obscurity at all. People were waiting on 2001, the same way they are waiting on Detox. Eminem's arrival certainly helped him picking up some white fans in the process but Em's big breakout was the Marshall Mathers LP. His first album actually sold less than "2001" and took some time to get off the ground. It was a hit record no doubt but many people weren't sure if Eminem was authentic or a one-hit wonder.
Xzibit was not a superstar before Dre. Plain and simple. His first two albums while highly praised in underground circles did not push major units and were certainly not crossover hits. Xzibit was an MTV darling when he got with Dre, Snoop, and the rest of them. Restless was his first album to go platinum. Between 40 Days and Restless, he hopped on a Snoop single produced by Dre, appeared on 2001, and then did the Up In Smoke tour. His sales went from around 600,000 copies on that album to 1.5 million. Hey, his albums sales more than doubled. I wonder how his audience grew that fucking big. Must have just been a coincidence. I'm not arguing in this 2Pac vs. Dre comparison. I'm simply calling you on some pretty biased-ass statements. Dre's done a lot of stuff for the West and so has Tupac. I really couldn't give a fuck about who has done more or who is the king. Tupac is dead and Dre is taking his sweet-ass time to make Detox. In the mean time, the West Coasts fans have become so bored and dissatisfied that they've now begun rambling on and on about who should wear some hypothetical crown and rule the magical land of Los Angeles. WHO GIVES A SHIT?!?! Pac's not around to claim the crown and Dre doesn't want to wear it.
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controversy sells..and it helps to have a machine pac without=javg rapper
imo ice cube n ren > pac
ice cube is more of a king than pac ever was...u never saw when shit hit the fan with cube..he ran and regrouped n repped a whole nother section of america kuz shit aint right at home
all cube did was get a new production team...
cali never got as bad for cube he had niggas outside of his circle(other rappers) goin for his throat like pac had in new york